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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 2>UFO over hey, we want to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those data.

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<v Speaker 1>Areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it? I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds,

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<v Speaker 2>time areas thirty one? Me neither there. See if it

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<v Speaker 2>was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty seconds ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI

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<v Speaker 2>the UFO. Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just passed over. I got I don't know what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's from at least to three thousand feet above us. See,

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<v Speaker 2>I passed out over the top of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You just called up to me be four. They're after

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<v Speaker 2>staying the airplanes here to God on an.

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<v Speaker 1>Unidentified object every liberty or call or calm on an

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<v Speaker 1>unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 3>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 3>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 3>an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you

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<v Speaker 3>all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles Podcast. In tonight's episode, Jason joins us from the

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<v Speaker 3>United Kingdom to share strange events that began in a

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<v Speaker 3>house marked by footsteps, shadow figures, and an out of

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<v Speaker 3>the body moment floating over the London rooftops. As he

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<v Speaker 3>grew older, the experiences followed him lucid dreams that later

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<v Speaker 3>connected to real events, unexplained, nosebleed shared only with his

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<v Speaker 3>youngest son, and a pattern of synchronicities tied to the

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<v Speaker 3>number thirteen. Jason is up next, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Now on with the show, Jason. Welcome to the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>by Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>You are more than welcome. It is great to have

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<v Speaker 3>you on today. And you're calling from the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, In Surrey.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jason. Now, Jason, you have some experiences you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be sharing with us. Would you like to start

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning please, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So before I start, let me just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a little bit about myself. Now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really a religious person as such. I used to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday School and stuff like that, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>really followed any kind of religion. But I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there's more to life out there than than what

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<v Speaker 1>we experience now, than this physical kind of life. I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that. And I also believe that things happen

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. I think not that our life is

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<v Speaker 1>predetermined already. It could be, I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that things happen for a reason. So when something happens,

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<v Speaker 1>it was supposed to happen, and it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>happen like that. So because of that, there's been times

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<v Speaker 1>throughout my life where I've had a sense of deja

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<v Speaker 1>vu on occasions, or even kind of heightened senses where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just feel a little bit different or

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of cotton onto things a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more than other people. And the other thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>say is that I think I believe that both the

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal and UFOs are linked in some way. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>two different phenomenons. I think they are linked in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether it's because of the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual or mental states, but there is some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a link, I believe. So there's lots of synchronicities that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of aware of which happened around me. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, these synchronicities tend to revolve around the number

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen for some reason. So as an example, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to live at the number thirteen. One of my cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>my third cousin, was born on the thirteenth. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, all of these things kind of sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>equal thirteen, and it's just just bizarre. And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more examples, which I'm going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about in a little while, as well as that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a number of lucid dreams throughout my life,

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<v Speaker 1>which some are more significant than others. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>have these dreams, it's almost as though I can I

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<v Speaker 1>feel them, I see myself in them. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>like you're dreaming it seems to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. So for me, this all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started when I was living in my grandmother's house. So

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with my grandparents and my mum and

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<v Speaker 1>we used to live with my grandparents in their house

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<v Speaker 1>in London, which was the number thirteen. Within this house,

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<v Speaker 1>we always used to hear what I always used to

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<v Speaker 1>hear noises around the house, like footsteps going up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the stairs, sometimes banging, So we thought the house

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<v Speaker 1>was haunted. And so one occasion when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>it must have been when I was in primary school,

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<v Speaker 1>because we leaved at my grandparents' house. It wasn't that big.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to share a bed with my mum, and

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<v Speaker 1>one evening I woke up and I said to my mum,

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<v Speaker 1>who's that standing at the bottom of the bed And

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<v Speaker 1>she turned to me and just said this no and

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<v Speaker 1>me just go back to sleep. And that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that there was someone or something, a figure, shadow,

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<v Speaker 1>something at the bottom of the bed. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my kind of experiences after that which kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started this off, was I had a dream that

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<v Speaker 1>I was floating above the house, above the roof, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could see like the top of the roofs, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I kind of flew over a hospital which was nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>And the strange thing was I could see it like

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<v Speaker 1>what looked like generators on the top of the the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital roof or they could have been a conditioning units.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But why would I know that at

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<v Speaker 1>such a young age, You know, that's certain things were

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<v Speaker 1>on top of these these buildings. It was bizarre. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where I went or what happened after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember floating and kind of gliding above some

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<v Speaker 1>roofs and that was it. A little while whilst living

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<v Speaker 1>in my grand's house, she had the house blessed and

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<v Speaker 1>then after that everything stopped. There was no more noises,

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<v Speaker 1>no more footsteps, no more shadows, nothing. So again I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that was about later on in life,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was it during my primary school. Later on

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<v Speaker 1>in life, we moved into a flat, also in London,

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<v Speaker 1>and we used to live on the ninth floor of

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<v Speaker 1>a high rise block. And one night I dreamt that

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<v Speaker 1>I was falling off of the top of this building

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<v Speaker 1>to where I was living. And I don't remember hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the ground or anything that I just just from falling

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the dream. That's all I can remember

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<v Speaker 1>from that dream. And then it turned out that weeks

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<v Speaker 1>later somebody actually jumped off of the opposite building and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ended up dying, and so I found that Bazarre.

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<v Speaker 1>I did tell people about that when it happened, but again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much people kind of believe what

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<v Speaker 1>you say. And there's a lot of things that that's

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<v Speaker 1>happened that I haven't really told people about because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who will believe what really, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite strange. Also throughout my life, I've had that I've

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<v Speaker 1>suffered from those bleeds from an early age, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could just be on the train and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden my nose had start bleeding heavily and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take a while to stop. And so those bleds were

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<v Speaker 1>something which I kind of suffered with throughout childhood and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. But more recently, my third son,

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<v Speaker 1>my youngest son, he also suffers with those bleeds and

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<v Speaker 1>we've taken him to the doctors. He's had his nose quarterized,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also gets heavy nose bleeds as well. None

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<v Speaker 1>of my other kids suffer from those bleeds, just him,

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<v Speaker 1>which again is just a bizarre thing. I've also more

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<v Speaker 1>recently had a couple of strange occurrences happen. So back

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<v Speaker 1>in October twenty eighteen, I was coming home from I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was from work or something, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some strobing lights above our neighbor's house next door, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I kind of stopped and I was looking to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what is that. There was no sound, so

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like a cherone, it wasn't an aircraft. So

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<v Speaker 1>I took out my phone and I started to record

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<v Speaker 1>these lights. And within the video, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the best video because I was trying to zoom in

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<v Speaker 1>and zoom out, so there's a little bit of store,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can clearly see that above the chimney of

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<v Speaker 1>this house there is what looks like three lights flashing

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<v Speaker 1>in succession, not rapidly, not continuously. It's just every now

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<v Speaker 1>and again they would flash. So it's not like how

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<v Speaker 1>an aircraft lights work, or a drone, which is which

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<v Speaker 1>has a constant light that flashes. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>a beacon every now and again. And in the video

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<v Speaker 1>you can also see later on an aircraft fly past

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<v Speaker 1>and you can hear it you can see that lights

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<v Speaker 1>are different, and so that was a strange experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I had. More recently, we went to Spain and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got villa in Spain really nice. It's in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, so it's no light pollution and it's really dark.

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<v Speaker 1>You can sit there and watch the stars. It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But my wife took a picture just above the pool

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<v Speaker 1>and captured this what looks like a kind of turkvoise

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<v Speaker 1>or in the sky. It wasn't there at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't see it. It's just when she took the

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<v Speaker 1>picture it was there. So when you see the picture

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<v Speaker 1>which I sent to Unique, you can clearly see this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I also took a couple of pictures on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>using my camera in the opposite direction towards these mountains

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<v Speaker 1>that we have in the background, and in the two

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<v Speaker 1>pictures that I took, you can also see this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of turquoise colored orb in two different places in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's clearly moved from one place to another. And

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<v Speaker 1>again when I took the pictures, I couldn't see I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see it. It was just it wasn't there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>only when we looked at the pictures, we could see

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<v Speaker 1>these things. So I've had kind of those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>strange experiences happened. But again going back to the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lucid dreams and what I said about dreaming that

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<v Speaker 1>I fell off of the building, et cetera, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>more kind of lucid dreams recently. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>after secondary school. I don't think I dreamt for a

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<v Speaker 1>while or remember the dreams that I had, But more

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<v Speaker 1>recently I have. So as an example, when we was

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<v Speaker 1>in Spain just a couple of weeks ago, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a strange dream. People say that dreams mean things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they do, but when they're bizarre like this,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you wonder what you know, what these dreams

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<v Speaker 1>are about. So I had on this particular night in Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I was in, it was like a courtyard garden

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<v Speaker 1>of a building. It was either a palace or like

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<v Speaker 1>a home or a big house. But this house had

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful garden enclosed by a wall. Now, the house

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<v Speaker 1>itself in my dream belong to somebody who didn't live there,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like they had it for tax purposes

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<v Speaker 1>or something. So they didn't live there, but they owned

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the house, the walls on the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>of shipping yard, so it was a very different contrast

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<v Speaker 1>to what was inside. And I couldn't help thinking that,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can see it, and nobody even knows it's there

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<v Speaker 1>because of the outside of this building. Then within my dream,

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<v Speaker 1>a different color to make it not look so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to I painted it like a gray

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<v Speaker 1>teal blue color. Then the next part of my dream

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<v Speaker 1>was that I was in a hall, like a school hall,

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<v Speaker 1>with a stage, and on this stage were uniforms, so

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<v Speaker 1>not not like police uniforms and stuff like that, more

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<v Speaker 1>like work with and I had to for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>try and stop people from taking too much of the work.

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<v Speaker 1>Were to make sure that, you know, everybody had a piece.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's significant about this dream is that after that,

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<v Speaker 1>two of my colleagues from work current work appeared in

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<v Speaker 1>my dream, and that was the end of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that was when we were in Spain, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days later when I got back to

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<v Speaker 1>that day, so I turned on my laptop to look

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<v Speaker 1>in and who messaged me was one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>in my dream. So you know, I have these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bizarre connections which which don't make sense. Coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to another dream that I had recently as well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I spoke to after I spoke to Eunich and

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<v Speaker 1>we said that, you know, we was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation and I was going to come on to

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<v Speaker 1>your show. I was trying to remember some of these synchronicities,

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<v Speaker 1>like the number thirteen and stuff like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went to bed that night fell asten and I within

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<v Speaker 1>my sleep or my dream, I was thinking about these

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<v Speaker 1>different events and some of the things that have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could talk to about them now. But the

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre thing about this one was that I woke up.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has happened on a couple of occasions I

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<v Speaker 1>on this occasion I woke up at I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>at three forty six exactly. And when you add those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers together, what did they add up to? Thirteen? Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just another bizarre synchronicity within that. Before I woke

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<v Speaker 1>particular dream again was another bizarre dream where I was

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<v Speaker 1>was a kind of a work party. But the strange

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<v Speaker 1>thing was that we had to go to this party,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had to go up an escalator to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor that this party was on, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the escalator was another colleague from work,

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<v Speaker 1>who again I don't know why these people appear in

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<v Speaker 1>my dream, but this particular colleague recently told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she was couldntant, So I don't know whether the party

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<v Speaker 1>was like a like a like a baby shower or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't got a clue, but anyway, she was standing

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of this escalator, and when we got

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<v Speaker 1>off the escalator, it was facing the total opposite direction

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<v Speaker 1>to where the party was, so we had to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of work our way round. Again. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>why I had that dream or what it was about,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was when I woke up at three forty six,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember synchronicities to talk to you about. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the final one was last was this morning actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so I went to sleep last night and the dream

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<v Speaker 1>I had again was so bizarre. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>split into three different sections. And so the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of the dream was my wife and.

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<v Speaker 5>I were I don't know where we were, but we

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<v Speaker 5>were getting into a car and a friend or a

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<v Speaker 5>couple were coming towards us to talk to us, and

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<v Speaker 5>my wife was saying to me, no, no, no, we can't

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<v Speaker 5>talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got we've got to go. And so the lady

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<v Speaker 1>of the in the couple managed to get to us

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<v Speaker 1>and was talking to me, and then my wife drove off,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we kind of I don't know she she

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<v Speaker 1>must have been like on the inside of the car

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and we kind of carried her up the

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<v Speaker 1>road where then you know, she was talking all that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she got out and realized that her partner was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, down the road, so that kind of stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>The dream then kind of transgressed merged into something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with a family. I was in this family, not

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<v Speaker 1>not part of the family, but I was in their

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<v Speaker 1>presence and they had got a adopted or got which

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<v Speaker 1>way to look at a stray dog from like a

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<v Speaker 1>dog home, and its a white bulldog. It was quite

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<v Speaker 1>an old bulldog, which was quite quiet, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't very energetic. But this part of the dream took

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<v Speaker 1>place in like the living room, and for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all sitting around on a couple of sofas on

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<v Speaker 1>each side of the room. The dog was sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>one place. There was a cat, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, a mouse appeared and was running around the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the then the cat chased the mouse and then

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<v Speaker 1>got it in a corner of the room. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was another dog which then tried to get the mouse

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<v Speaker 1>off of the cat, and then the bulldog started to

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<v Speaker 1>fight with the other dog. And the only how we

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<v Speaker 1>can get the bulldog off was to use like a towel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you kind of whip a towel, and

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stopped the dog from from from fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that was that section of the dream. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the last section of dream was even more bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that I was sitting on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>either a toy train or a tram something that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of size, and behind the tram was a boy, not

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<v Speaker 1>the gun. He might have been a teenage boy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure, but there was a boy and he and

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<v Speaker 1>myself were flicking pink paint at each other as this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tram was driving, so he wasn't on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was kind of running behind it. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>tram slowly took again speed and kind of carried on,

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<v Speaker 1>And because he couldn't get on the tram, he then

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<v Speaker 1>climbed onto the back of what was like a service lorry.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was two of these service lorries following the

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<v Speaker 1>tram for some reason, and so the tram carried on.

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<v Speaker 1>The boy was on the back of the service free

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<v Speaker 1>and there was the other slotry driving behind it. The

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<v Speaker 1>tram itself seemed to the driver seemed to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>accelerate and start to go too fast. I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>tram was going to come off the tracks at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't, but that's how fast it was going.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it carried on. One of the service lorries

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<v Speaker 1>reversed into a driveway and stopped, and then the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>which the boy was on, stopped and was also want

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<v Speaker 1>to reverse into the driveway. But as it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started to reverse, the boy jumped off the bat and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going underneath the lorry. I think it was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was crushed or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because the lawry was quite high off the ground. But

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<v Speaker 1>he went under the lorry and that kind of startled

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<v Speaker 1>me and I woke up. The bizarre thing is when

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up, it was five seventeen this morning. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you add those numbers together, what do they make?

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<v Speaker 1>So again, I've got all of these bizarre inicities with

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<v Speaker 1>the number thirteen, which don't really make you know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>really make sense to me. There was a point as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of jumping back a bit. This must have

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<v Speaker 1>been twenty fifteen, I think, where there was all of

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<v Speaker 1>that talk about the Mayan calendar and the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the world on all of that, and I saw something

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<v Speaker 1>in the news about a scientist that was looking into

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<v Speaker 1>the mind calendar and what effect it had in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to these dates, and I felt compelled to try and

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to this guy and say to me, you know, what,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it about the number thirteen and how does

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<v Speaker 1>that have an impact on the mind calendar. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is some sort of significance with it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is, but I feel that there is

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of there's something, there's something in it. So

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<v Speaker 1>either that, you know people were saying when people said

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<v Speaker 1>that the the of the Mind calendar was the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, I was thinking more along the lines of,

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<v Speaker 1>is it that we're reading that calendar wrong because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not when I say, living in the right time. And

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds a bit bizarre. But whereas our calendar is

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<v Speaker 1>based off of twelve months, should it really be based

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<v Speaker 1>off of thirteen? And so I looked in into that

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna google, and it said that technically

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<v Speaker 1>there are thirteen planets. The Solar system has eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the eight that we know, but then there's another

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<v Speaker 1>five that are officially recognized as dwarf planets, which then

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<v Speaker 1>equal thirteen. Again, I just don't understand what this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fixation with the number thirteen is. It makes no

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me, makes no sense to me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's itnic, I think that is all I've all I've

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<v Speaker 1>got for you today.

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<v Speaker 3>Good stuff, Jason. Interesting, So the number thirteen really sticks? Same?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really don't know. Why do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Find yourself drawn to the number, say, if you're say,

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<v Speaker 3>choosing like a mobile or sym number or a car

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<v Speaker 3>registration like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, nothing like that at all, Nothing like that at all. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't understand this kind of significance of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But outside of that number, I did listen to one

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<v Speaker 1>of your episodes a couple of weeks back, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was called three forty three, and it was about a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had lots of similar experiences to what I've

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<v Speaker 1>just explained, but he's went a little bit further than

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<v Speaker 1>what I've explained, you know, about lucid dreams and flying

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But listening to that and then

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<v Speaker 1>talking about mine, it just it's just bizarre. It's just bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, I haven't really cold everybody this whole

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sequence of events because I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>people would think, you know, who would believe me, who

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<v Speaker 1>would not. So it's good to be able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk to you about this and kind of share

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<v Speaker 1>it with other people, because I'm I'm sure I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the young person who has these types of experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're certainly not. Say you're doing a lottery numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>would you ever be drawn to pick the number thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>or one and three or any combinations?

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<v Speaker 1>I might do every now and again. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that I'm as I said, I'm not drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers, not drawn to them. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they kind of stick out him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know what you mean. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>you're drawn to the number, but you just seem to

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<v Speaker 3>see it. Yeah, and when did that start? When did

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<v Speaker 3>you start seeing the number thirteen more?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something that's kind of always happened. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's being living at the number thirteen, my cousin being

421
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<v Speaker 1>born on thirteen. It's just something that's just always kind

422
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<v Speaker 1>of been there.

423
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<v Speaker 3>I can say. Some people find the number unlucky.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. And I'm not superstitious in the slightest.

425
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 1>So I would walk under a ladder with fight if

426
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I had to, you know, black cats come past me.

427
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm not superstitious because of because of this,

428
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that I've had so many kind

429
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of instance it's with this particular number.

430
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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny how we see numbers more and more.

431
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 3>It's like I have very very light late nights and

432
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I can be still working until three, four and

433
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 3>sometimes five o'clock in the morning and all of last week.

434
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Got a cat that wakes me up every morning. He

435
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.759
<v Speaker 3>mews in my face, and for a whole a whole week,

436
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>and in fact a couple of days this week as well.

437
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 3>He's woke me up at nine forty seven, bang on,

438
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 3>nine forty seven, bang on all of last week and

439
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 3>two days this week.

440
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<v Speaker 1>It's bizarre. You know, I woke up on quite a

441
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<v Speaker 1>few occasions at three something. I couldn't I couldn't tell

442
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 1>you the exact dates because I haven't really record them.

443
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>It's only it's only recently, after listening to that last

444
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>podcast that I was just telling you about that I've

445
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<v Speaker 1>started to kind of record what time I've been waking

446
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>up recently, and you know, it's always around three something,

447
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>apart from last night, which was five.

448
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, five seventeen.

449
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know.

450
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<v Speaker 3>I'll be interesting to find out if if any of

451
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 3>our listeners out there which have had any weird synchronicities

452
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to numbers, like Jason has you know,

453
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.400
<v Speaker 3>shoo us an email, be interesting to see. The thing is,

454
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're surrounded by numbers. Everything we do, everything

455
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>we see is numbers, equations, all that kind of stuff.

456
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Another weird thing is that I've always had a feeling

457
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that I need to do something. There's something I need

458
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to do, whether it's I don't know, help people or

459
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just this kind of impulse that I

460
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>feel there's something that I need to do. And again,

461
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know why. I'm not an extrovert or

462
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but kind.

463
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Of urges it.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

465
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that could mean several things. It could mean that

466
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's direction and your career and maybe like a

467
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 3>change of path which will go along those lines. Or

468
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 3>it could just mean something that you'll be on your

469
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 3>way somewhere and someone will need help and then you'll

470
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<v Speaker 3>be there.

471
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll see, has I said, I don't know. Always

472
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm always trying to strive, So I don't know whether

473
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>it's my worst ethic or just the type of person

474
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I am, but I always try and go over and

475
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>above or iways trying to help people. I was trying

476
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to do what I can, but again, business disourge that

477
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel that there's something that I'm supposed to do,

478
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.759
<v Speaker 1>and I I don't know what. It's just a constant thing,

479
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.519
<v Speaker 1>always been there. That's just something that I need to do.

480
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Do you ever make a note of your dreams, do

481
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>you ever drop them down when you wake up?

482
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Only recently, only you know, the last the ones that

483
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I've just explained to you. So a lot of the

484
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 1>time I don't remember them, or or I remember kind

485
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.799
<v Speaker 1>of slithers of it and don't remember the whole thing.

486
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But I've made a conscious effort to record the last

487
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>couple because I knew that we were going to have

488
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. And the one, as I said, when I

489
00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was a young boy and I fell off the building,

490
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that's just something that will just always stick with me,

491
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know.

492
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet, And you know I do always say

493
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to people, you know, if you do have to start

494
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 3>having unusual lucid dreams, you know, make a note of it.

495
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you can see patterns, or sometimes you have a

496
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 3>weird dream and you write it down and then sure

497
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 3>enough it actually does take place in reality. We'd like

498
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>to ask you, Jason, when you do dream now you

499
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that the apartment blocks, now did you actually dream?

500
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Were they actually a real place you dreamed? The one

501
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 3>where you fell off?

502
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, So, as I said, I used to live

503
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in a high rise block and there was a block opposite,

504
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 1>same same everything. I felt that I was falling off

505
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of my block, so it's a real place. It was

506
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a real thing that happened. But as I said, this

507
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>person fell off or jumped off of the opposite block.

508
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Very change. I mean, when I dream, I never seem

509
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 3>to dream real places. It's always seems to be places

510
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I kind of are vaguely familiar, but are not actual

511
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 3>really places.

512
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well again, you know, just like the one where

513
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I said about this house and the wared God, I

514
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that is a place or not. You know,

515
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it. I've never been there, so again

516
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that might just be in my mind. I don't know.

517
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Disapartment block. Was it very rare that an incident like

518
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 3>that would ever happen?

519
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't recall anything like

520
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that happening before apart from that one time.

521
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Strange thing is, you know, if you do have these

522
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 3>dreams floating or anything, at least you can check on

523
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Google Earth now to see if you know, these places

524
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>do exist. The weird thing is the only time when

525
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I had a body experience was the only time it's

526
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 3>it was actually a real place. I actually did leave.

527
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I was actually in my bedroom. That was one hundred

528
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 3>percent in real place. But when it comes to just

529
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 3>dreams or lucid dreams that I have, it's it never

530
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 3>seems to be or it never feels like it's a

531
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 3>place I recognize it. It's just like vaguely familiar.

532
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I get that. As I said when I

533
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>when I dreamt, I was floating above roofs, because you know,

534
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of went at a small distance because where

535
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>my grand's house was and the hospital was probably like

536
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a team minute walk. But that was that is an

537
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>actual place. And as I said, there was at the

538
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 1>age I was, because I was still in primary school.

539
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>There's no reason why I should know what the top

540
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of a roof looks like or the top of hospital building.

541
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<v Speaker 6>You don't always know you're in a cult. Not at

542
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 6>first it feels like truth, like purpose, like home. Then

543
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 6>the rules change, the world gets smaller, and obedience becomes survival.

544
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545
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547
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549
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550
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552
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553
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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned your grand you said she had the

556
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 3>house blessed. Was there any reason to get it or

557
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 3>was it just like a normal thing?

558
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it wasn't a normal thing. Again, I think

559
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 1>it was because it was strange goings on that happened

560
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 1>in that house, Like as I said, the footsteps going

561
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>up and down the stairs. Sometimes you might hit banging

562
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>on the roof, but on the ceiling if it was

563
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>downstairs and there was no one there. I don't know

564
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 1>ifbody else actually saw anything like I did. Again, that

565
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>was just something that I said to my mum, you know,

566
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>who's that person at the end of the bed, and

567
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>she just, you know, kind of she just kind of

568
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>dismissed it. So I don't know if anyone else saw anything.

569
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>But after she had it blessed. There was nothing else.

570
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 1>There was no more noises anything, so.

571
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 3>It seemed to have done the trig Yeah.

572
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

573
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 3>And did you ever get the chance to talk to

574
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 3>you grand about some of the things that went on there?

575
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. Unfortunately, unfortunately she passed away now, so

576
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that chance.

577
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 3>And you saw this figure at the end of the bed, Yeah.

578
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't. I can't remember any kind of features

579
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. It was just a dark silhouette,

580
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>dark figure just standing at the end of the pit.

581
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't anything malice, you know, it just and I

582
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>just turned around and went back to sleep and then

583
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that was it.

584
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 3>But you kind of felt that there was someone.

585
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>There, physically saw someone there.

586
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Like a shadow. You couldn't see any features or anything

587
00:32:58.759 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>like that.

588
00:32:59.480 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

589
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 3>And did you feel there was something there?

590
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 1>That I can't remember because again it was you know,

591
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 1>years and years ago. I'm wearing my fifties now, so

592
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if I felt anything at the time.

593
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't like you were you woke up, I

594
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 3>have a sleep feeling that there was someone there, and

595
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 3>then you saw something.

596
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe, as I said, I don't remember why I

597
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>woke up. I just remember waking up and seeing this figure.

598
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 3>And in that house. Did you live there or did

599
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 3>you just stay there?

600
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Quite a lot? I stayed there quite a lot. We

601
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>lived there at one point, but we was always there,

602
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, with all my cousins and stuff.

603
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>And did you ever experience anything else there?

604
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>No, that was it. It was just just those those things.

605
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 1>So that figure, the footsteps up and down stairs, you know,

606
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 1>the noises, the kind of clunks in the night, so

607
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>to speak.

608
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But that was it.

609
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>And was that the first time you'd seen something like

610
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 3>that when you were younger? Do you remember, Yeah, that

611
00:33:59.200 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 3>was the first time.

612
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>That was the first time, which again, you know, going

613
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 1>back to what I said at the start, which is

614
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>what makes me think that there must be some sort

615
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 1>of a link between the paranormal and UFOs. Now, I'm

616
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>not talking not some bolt crafts or anything like that.

617
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking that when you there are a lot

618
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 1>of people talk, they talk about connections, they talk about,

619
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, a kind of mental state so to speak.

620
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the reason why we have the subjects

621
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 3>we do on this show. I mean, even though it

622
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 3>has UFO and a title, we tend to well I

623
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>tend to think that a lot of it is all connected.

624
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>So quite often you'd have someone which has UFO experience

625
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 3>and then for a life of also had paranormal things

626
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 3>going on, you know, vice versa, and you know the

627
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 3>whole synchronicities and coincidences. You know that again that's all

628
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>folded up quite neatly in this whole package.

629
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I very much believe that. As I said, I

630
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>believe things happen for a reason. You know, things don't

631
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>happen out the blue. There is a not a pattern,

632
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 1>not a pattern, but there is a reason why some

633
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>people will happen. It's just whether you take a decision

634
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<v Speaker 1>to move forward in a different direction or not.

635
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go with you on that. Well, whether things

636
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 3>happen on a linear path that already predestined, I'm not sure.

637
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Definitely does seem that we are taken in a certain

638
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>direction and exactly when it comes to opportunities or anything

639
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 3>like that. I always believe that, you know, you should

640
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>always follow it. If you're being led in a certain direction, you.

641
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Know, go with it. Yeah, I believe exactly the same thing.

642
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, That's why I say things happen for a reason.

643
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So why I always kind of say to people, because

644
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 1>I talk to lots of people in regards to employment.

645
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You know that their path in life, whether it's kind

646
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of relationship and stuff. And I always say to them, look,

647
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>if an opportunity presents itself to you, take it, grab

648
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it with both hands, because once that opportunity or that

649
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>door closes, you'll never get it again. If you take it,

650
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it will only take you some we're off.

651
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's exactly what I say. Go for it. Yeah,

652
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 3>don't be shy and thinker or maybe next year, you know.

653
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Do it, Yeah, because then it won't happen.

654
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they might not be there, you know, that would

655
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 3>pass and you know, go on to someone else. Probably.

656
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're in the same mind mindset exactly.

657
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 3>And Jason, would you say you're like a spiritual person.

658
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Not particularly so, I'm not really like my bees. I'm

659
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 1>not really a spiritual person as such. However, I do believe,

660
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I believe things. I do believe that everybody has some

661
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of an aura about them. So another thing I've

662
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of bound strange, if you want to call it,

663
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that is young children, babies, they not tend to gravitate

664
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>towards me as such. But it's almost as though they

665
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>can see your energy, if that makes sense. It does,

666
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and the same with other people. You know, you feel

667
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>people's energy, You can feel who who might be positive

668
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>or negative. So when I say about this kind of

669
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>heightened since that's kind of what I feel, that's kind

670
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of what I feel what I see.

671
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 3>So what you're saying is you're not all crystals and.

672
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Beads exactly exactly. Yes, yes, not that there's anything wrong

673
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>with crystals and beats, Noah, of course not.

674
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>No, we do, we don't want to. We do want

675
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 3>to offend our crystal, crystal and beat collectors out there.

676
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 3>But no, Yeah, when I say spiritual, it doesn't always

677
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>have to manifest in you know, the way you present yourself,

678
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>so to speak. And I know what you're saying. Yeah,

679
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 3>kids and animals, you know, seem to gravitate towards people,

680
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 3>which you know do show good energy.

681
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I very much believe that. I was going to say,

682
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I also hope because I haven't really had a conversation

683
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.559
<v Speaker 1>with him. But when I spoke about my my youngest

684
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 1>boy having those bleeds as well, I've never really talked

685
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 1>to him about it to see whether he's experience anything

686
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 1>or or fee feels any particular way. So maybe one

687
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>day I'll have a conversation and see, because again it's

688
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>just bizarre that only only him out of all four

689
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>kids is unusual.

690
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean how old is he?

691
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Is?

692
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 3>He still quite young?

693
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 1>No, he's now you're going to test my pa knowledge.

694
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>He's now sixteen, going to be seventeen.

695
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, so yeah he's at that age now, isn't he.

696
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 3>So he's he's probably more interested in do it, you know,

697
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 3>get into other stuff. But yeah, it's definitely something you

698
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>can kind of touch on with him because there might

699
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 3>be something else there. You could have experienced the same

700
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 3>roughly the same things along the lines of you know

701
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 3>what you have.

702
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping not, but yes, it's a possibility.

703
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because sometimes they do skip. I'm one of four boys.

704
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 3>My mother had loads of experiences. None of my brothers did.

705
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>None of my brothers have had anything but me. Yes,

706
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's weird how it seems to seems to

707
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 3>do that.

708
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not spoken to kind of any of my

709
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 1>family in any kind of great details. I don't know

710
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>if anyone else has had similar experiences. No one has

711
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 1>really said anything over the years. As I said, it's

712
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>not really something that you kind of bring up in

713
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation as such.

714
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 3>No, that is true. You know, are you interested in

715
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 3>the subject? Do you do you watch like TV?

716
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, so, you know, since since I was small

717
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I used to sit up and watch horror films with

718
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>my grand I've kind of got more found more interest

719
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 1>in kind of UFO stuff now, you know, I'm always

720
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>watching like the History Channel and all the rest of it,

721
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>because there's so much more out there that there must

722
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>be more. There must be there must be something to it.

723
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean, I mean you've you've experienced things.

724
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

725
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 3>Did the interest come from having experiences or did it?

726
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Did you have this interest beforehand?

727
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Now I would probably say the interests came from having

728
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the experiences.

729
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is which is quite quite often the way.

730
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 1>And again to see well not even to see, because

731
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, we didn't see them physically, but to see

732
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the orbs in the sky captured on you know, on

733
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the camera, but not by the naked eye. You know,

734
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>those kind of things are the strange.

735
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 3>And is this an area of Spain where you visit

736
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 3>every year?

737
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got we've got a house, a house there now,

738
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>so you know, we can sit under the stars and

739
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 1>watch movies and watch shooting stars. We've seen the starlink

740
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:26.639
<v Speaker 1>go across the sky. We see lots of shooting stars

741
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's a really clear part of the sky. I

742
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>can you even see like the Milky Way as well

743
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>as you know, constellations and stuff. But that those orbs

744
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>we didn't physically see. It was only captured on camera.

745
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Or so you get to sit out next to the pool,

746
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 3>next to the pool and have a nice and clear guys.

747
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, if there's no wasps, yes.

748
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Very specific, no wasps. But what I'll do is you

749
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 3>send a video in and you send some pictures in.

750
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>So what I'll do is I'll put them under this

751
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 3>this episode on the website that people can go and

752
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 3>check them out.

753
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. As I said, I apologize for my dodgy film.

754
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And within that video you just kind of catch glimpses

755
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of it and two or three times, but you definitely

756
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>can see it.

757
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, let us know next time you go to Spain

758
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and see if you know, you do catch anything else,

759
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 3>it might be even worth setting up a camera when

760
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 3>you're there.

761
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>You never know, Yeah, I know, I know we've got

762
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 1>like video cameras around the property but never captured anything

763
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>on them.

764
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Good stuff.

765
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, it was great to talk to you.

766
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 3>It's great to meet you too, sir. It's it's always

767
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 3>good to speak to someone from the United Kingdom. That

768
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:39.360
<v Speaker 3>episode you listen to, that was three forty three, I

769
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 3>think that was the very first one I did of

770
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 3>this year.

771
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it was this year. It was episode three

772
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>one five. I made a note of it because, you know,

773
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>it was just bizarre that a lot of stuff that

774
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 1>he experienced is the same things that I've experience. Apart

775
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.039
<v Speaker 1>from because he was talking more about abductions and and

776
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. I've never I've never experienced anything

777
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know whether my out body experience

778
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 1>me floating my nose believes. I don't know if any

779
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of that's got to do with a kind of abduction.

780
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced to any kind of anything like that.

781
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 3>When it comes to the body experiences, is that ever

782
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>something that you've you know, you've had, you've done it

783
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:25.880
<v Speaker 3>once quite evidently, is that something you've ever explored? Maybe

784
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 3>you're meditating, you see if you can get into the

785
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.559
<v Speaker 3>same state again and try it because you you know,

786
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 3>you've done it once already, obviously not intentionally.

787
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I might I might have to try. I've never I've

788
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>never tried. I've never tried to. It might be something,

789
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>It might be something. Yeah, it's been great speaking to you, Okay. Likewise, Jason,

790
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

791
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Nick. It was great being on your show

792
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and having the space to talk about it.

793
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 3>You're more than welcome any times, Jason. I'm only just

794
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 3>on the other end of the line. Do you keep

795
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>in contact all right and we will speak soon, sir.

796
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, You're welcome.

797
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Take out bye for now, Jason. Well, that is all

798
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 3>for this episode. Keep updated and connect you with a

799
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 3>show on x, Facebook and Instagram. And if you have

800
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,

801
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,

802
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 3>or you can reach out to me via the contact

803
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 3>page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

804
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 3>big fang it adjacent for sharing tonight, and as always,

805
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.840
<v Speaker 3>thank you all for listening. I will be back next week.

806
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<v Speaker 3>Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.
