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Speaker 5: So as always, Ronald.
Speaker 6: Again. But Clemson game does fit in that category.
Speaker 5: I don't put them there. I think they're a very
good team.
Speaker 6: But that Clemson win is about the only win for
b YU so far this year that I would say
is one of the great wins for this team. The
other great teams b yu's played, they've played them close,
and they've had chances, but they have yet to finish
it off. That Yukon game, namely the number two team
in the country right now, as we know, BYU was
down big, they came back, made it a ballgame, had
a chance to win at the end, rob Wright durribbled
it off his foot and.
Speaker 5: BYU fell in Boston.
Speaker 6: Now Texas Tech BYU again had a big chance to
win it.
Speaker 5: They're up by nine.
Speaker 6: Late in the second half, and then Texas Tech rattled
off a thirty two to six run over BYU before
finishing off the Cougars, winning that game by thirteen. And
then just last week, no excuse me, it was Monday
night this week BYU and Arizona, who is by the way,
struggling to put away Arizona State right now the top
ranked Wildcats, and BYU battled in Provo on Monday. Again,
BYU was down pretty big. I believe nineteen was the
game high lead for Arizona. BYU claude their way back
into it again, had a shot to win it at
the end, but unable to do so as rob Wright
was swatted and Arizona closed that one out. So today's
a really big opportunity for BYU to get the monkey
off their back. BYU traveling to Alan Fieldhouse, one of
the most iconic, probably in my opinion, the most iconic
atmosphere in college basketball, a big opportunity to get a
win over the fourteenth rank to.
Speaker 5: Jayhawks just one below BYU.
Speaker 6: However, in the Ken Palm rankings, Kansas at fourteen, BYU
at fifteen the net switches so BYU at fourteenth in
the net, Kansas at fifteenth in the NET.
Speaker 5: So both these teams pretty evenly matched.
Speaker 6: And we'll pull up some statistics to show tell you
that BYU currently averages eighty six point seven points a
game on the season, Kansas a little bit lower, scoring
seventy eight point three points per game advantage Cougars rebounding
BYU again with a slight advantage forty point one rebounds
a game, with Kansas averaging thirty nine point five, so
not a huge difference there. Assists per game Kansas sitting
at fifteen point three, BYU at fifteen point two advantage Jayhawks,
though again not by much. BYU with eight point four
steals a game, Kansas with five point five. So Kansas
really struggles to turn teams over on this year compared
to BYU, by you should have an advantage there.
Speaker 5: They'll turn BYU. Look look for BYU to have a
turnover advantage tonight.
Speaker 6: BYU with four point nine blocks a game, pretty good,
but Kansas with a and at six point two blocks
per game. Now, field goal percentage Kansas at forty seven
point four b YU forty eight point six.
Speaker 5: So by You shoots the ball a little better, I
think they're better. They're they're pretty.
Speaker 6: Even from three though, both sitting around thirty five percent
BA thirty five point six, Kansas thirty five point eight.
And then free throw percentages BUA at seventy five point one,
Kansas just a little bit better at sixty at seventy
six point five.
Speaker 5: So as we go through all those statistics.
Speaker 6: As we're just getting ready to welcome in Ron, he
says he's connecting right now. Both these teams are very
evenly matched, and so the big difference to me is
going to be turnovers. BYU averages ten point nine turnovers
a game, Kansas averages ten point four. But as we
mentioned earlier, Kansas doesn't turn over other teams as much
as BYU. We're looking at the steels category BYU significantly better,
significantly better at just over three more steels a game,
and so the big difference maker where BYU can get
out and win this game, I think is going to
be turnover margin. Now, the other big storyline of the day,
obviously AJ Debounca Darren Peterson. AJ has been nothing short
of amazing for BYU, and Darren Peterson is the same
for Kansas if you haven't had the opportunity to watch him.
Speaker 5: He's a very very gifted basketball player, very.
Speaker 6: Good and there's a legitimate reason why some have him
listed as the number one pick over AJ. Now, obviously
this is a BYU basketball pre game show, so we
may be a little biased. I think AJ's the number
one pick. I think AJ is a better prospect. He
averages better in just about every category. Darren Peterson is
at twenty one point six points a game. He's been
very injury prone. Though very injury prone, He's only played
in ten games so far, so this will be his
eleventh game of the year. He averages four point six rebounds,
one point nine assists a game, and one still, AJ
averages six point seven rebounds, three point six assists, and
one point three steals.
Speaker 5: So again, AJ.
Speaker 6: I think is a better prospect. He's just averaging more,
he's more available. I think he's a little bit of
a better player. And these two have gone at it.
Speaker 5: Before in high school.
Speaker 6: Last February, AJ and Darren Peterson played in a matchup
that featured AJ going for forty nine and Darren went
for fifty eight, And so these two have a history
of going back and forth at each other. That game
ended with Darren Peterson's team winning off of I believe
Darren Peterson hit a game winner to beat AJ's team
in high school. And I'm curious if this game we
might see a situation where these two.
Speaker 5: Go a little one on one.
Speaker 6: Now, obviously they play very different positions, so they might
necessarily they might not necessarily be matched up with each
other very often.
Speaker 5: But I wonder if if you might.
Speaker 6: See a situation where AJ gets five straight points or
six straight points and Darren Peterson takes it on himself
to go answer that, and you have a little bit
of a back and forth battle between the two players.
I wonder if that may be another game deciding factor.
Will these players get in their heads and start to
go back and forth and almost just play ISO ball
because with players of these this caliber, I think that's
a real possibility.
Speaker 5: I really do. I think it's a It's.
Speaker 6: Sometimes when when college basketball players who are stars match
up against each other, they want to go one on
one and prove that they they're the better player, especially
when there's draft picks on the line.
Speaker 5: What pick are you going to be? Are you the
number one pick? Now?
Speaker 6: The other storyline I want to get to here as
it's taking a little bit of time for the technology
to work for Ron to connect here. Excuse me, Ron
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Speaker 7: It really is.
Speaker 2: If they lose this game, I really think you can
might start to say this guy is falling now. A
lot of people are gonna tell me there's a lot
of basketball left. But this team, this roster was assembled
for an elite a for an opportunity to play in
a final four a game. I said it's an elite
eight team, not gonna really say it's a final four team.
Still believe they have an opportunity to get there, but
with the way it's looking, it has not been there.
This has not been the first half team. The name
of the game for this team is second half team.
In college basketball, it's set pretty much on every single broadcast.
The over under that Caleb Lions and myself set yesterday
it was six and a half. Andrew don't know if
you heard that. How many times they'll say, BA use
the second half team. But they can't afford to get
off to this whole start, not in a one thousand game.
And Alan Fieldhouse, the fog is a tough place to play.
Baus two to zero against Kansas and entering the Big
Twelve they won the last time in twenty twenty three,
he overcame a fourteen point deficit. Now you would have
to think if this team were to get down, this
team is better assembled than the team of twenty twenty three.
With that all being said, the team of twenty twenty
three play more together than this team currently, so that
I think is an advantage that the twenty twenty three
team has compared to this twenty twenty five team. But
there are worries. I will not lie to you. I
am worried about this game. I'm not worried about Robin
and aj bouncing back. I think they'll have a great performance.
I think they will. But I'm worried about Richie Sonders.
Can Richie s Sounders really get going? Has nothing to
do with Richie necessarily, per se, it's can other guys
on the team they don't? I feel like the issue
with Boe basketball and I watched a lot of tape
last night. I was up till about three am in
the morning. A lot of people gonna be like, Ron,
what were you doing? Maybe you slept in and that's
why you were late. No, I was just I rewatched
that get Kansas game from last year. That's what I
do a lot of tape watching going through I watched
the game from twenty twenty three and even something with
the guys from twenty twenty four and twenty three. And
I granted it's a different team, different style. They moved
to basketball. A lot of people all this team doesn't
shoot a lot of threes. No, they put up a
lot of threes. Is just different and it's not on
brand as the last two teams. I think the bigger
issue is that this team struggles that may be moving
the ball. Ben has set it a few times and
throughout the week on Cooker Sports have been critical, but
it feels sometimes like ioball, it feels like oh, one
on one, this one on one that I've had. I
had a plethora of people on the last two days
that cover bou that explained that you can check all
those interviews out on the podcast.
Speaker 7: But I do agree.
Speaker 2: I sometimes feel that this is on the players, it's
not on the coaches. The coaches have the game plan,
the coaches are telling them they have them locked in,
they have them thought I know they're going over this
in practice. I feel that they need to lock in
on I mean they need to lock in those with
the basketball, AJ, Rob, Richie, don't force shots, find the
open man. What I would love to see this game
going early is I would love to see Richie and
Kimba get going. I don't need to see AJ and
Rob get going early. I don't they can. Robkin is
so quick and it's so athletic. Andrew he can get
in the paint when he wants to, how he wants to,
and he can get to the basket pretty much all
the time. He really can do that. And I really
feel that Rob is dynamic and get to the bat.
But yeah, he's height his size, but he's supposed to
be at a draw and kick now.
Speaker 7: Couldn't do that in the Arizona game.
Speaker 2: Obviously the type King found out Brandon Burry's and Canard
Davis Junior was lighting it up. He left him and
he blitzed off the weak side. He made a tremendous block.
Some will say some hand. Nonetheless, they let him play
in Arizona scape provo with the victory.
Speaker 7: I think it needs to be a little bit different.
Speaker 2: If you get Richie going and you move the basketball
and you're getting Richie to the basket is gonna cause
Kansas to collapse. It's gonna cause Kansas to force to
play one on one. Then if Knar is able to
sprinkle in the three, then if Alexi coaches, if he
comes in the game, if he's able to get one,
that happens. If my highlight Bucketvich is able to get one,
all of that entails Kansas playing man and man. The
reason why Bo he struggles, the reason why he is
getting doubled so much, or Rob is not working. No
one else is contributing. The ball is not moving. Go
look at the assist the last couple of games. You
have to be able to move the basketball. We're not
talking about an all time great performance. Well, Utah guy
in foul troum, you could play one on one. We're
talking about the league teams. I don't want to hear
any more of the Utah's, the Oklahoma stays to TCUs.
No one coming to me with that anymore. No BYU
supposed to beat those teams. We're talking about BYU not
beating Texas Tech unraveled in the last seven to nine minutes.
Same thing happened against last year, aainst Arizona water which
was completely turned off, went cold, couldn't find a bucket.
We're talking about losing against Arizona at home, Yukon. It
was a neutral site in their backyard. That game came down.
That's what we're talking about. Those are the teams you're
gonna see in the Elleia eight potentially or maybe even
so sixteen to get to an Elite eight. You saw
Alabama and they had a record day shooting. But those
are the type of rosters and teams you can see
that they have one off performances like that and knock
you out of the tournament. We are talking about BYU
basketball playing against and beating these teams right now, so
when they get to March, it's not just setting yourself
up in the non con it's winning conference play.
Speaker 7: And right now, this team doesn't have a Premier.
Speaker 2: Crawl one win in all the road, not overall, but
on the road, they don't. They beat Villanova, Okay, cool,
Villanova's thirty three to the net. That's nice, But we're
not talking about though, we're talking about top fifteen to
twenty teams. You lost you on number eight team in
the net, you lost a Texas Tech, the number seventeen
team in the net, you lost to Arizona, number one team.
Than that, you're number fourteenth, you're seventeen to three or
overall five and two. And I know people like Ron
you're nitpicking. Well that's that's you get the nitpick when
the potential number one overall pick in the twenty twenty
six NBA drafter is on your roster.
Speaker 5: Well, well, also, Ron, I just want to jump in,
no glad, jump in.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you got a nitpick when you're talking about it.
When your aspirations and AJ said, this is to get
to a final four.
Speaker 2: Or bus he said national championship a bus he said that.
Speaker 6: And and so if you're gonna get there, the margin
for error is thinner than ever in BYU basketball.
Speaker 5: You have to be able to beat these teams.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 6: And I talked about it a little bit before you
went on air that BYU, as you're saying, has not
done it. They haven't there one they're one time they
did it was Clemson, who's ranked twenty two right now
in the AP poll.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 2: And they are even the top thirty two minute at
And that's okay. And it's like that one's like borderline,
like that's the only again that was neutral and granted
you came back from that, but you got to look,
we gotta go to break my joint. La Ap was
holding down for you guys. He was giving you, guys
all the game notes and the storylines coming out. We'll
give our score predictions in the last segment, but coming
to next. Had a great interview yesterday with Sean Kellerman.
He's a radio host for pre and post game for
KU men's basketball. Look, this guy's very knowledgeable. He breaks
it down very well. You're not gonna want to miss that.
Some people did. We're gonna replay that coming up next.
We're just gonna get right into it. It's from yesterday's show,
so you'll hear the sponsor and everything. Actually, you know,
we'll bring it back and I'll have Andrew cut it up.
We'll bring it back and then we'll pitch it to
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Speaker 7: Will go there.
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show that showed up and show out. Gonna close out
the show with hoops talk. Gotta talk about a big
time matchup, Top twenty five, Top fifteen matchup tomorrow.
Speaker 7: B YU traveling.
Speaker 2: I believe right now as we speak to Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas,
to be exact, they'll probably fly into obviously you know, Missouri,
I think, or somewhere over there in Kansas and Missouri, Kansas,
you know, or whatever it is. I don't know, and
then go to Lawrence, unless that's another airport.
Speaker 7: I might not know. There's a guy on the line
who I'll welcome in momentarily. He might know.
Speaker 2: There might be another airport closer, but nonetheless that's where
the game will be played. Fag Allen field House. If
you thought the Marriott Center is a good atmosphere, which
it is, it's one of the great ones. Fag Allen
field House is another. B YU is already taking a
one off Kansas and Conference play going there. Can they
do it again this time? I think it's gonna be
even tougher. I think it's gonna be even louder. I
looked online at Twitter fans are already camping out. Students
were let in, Look, this is gonna be loud, rambunctious.
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hotline and welcome in our wonderful guest to close out
the show with us is gonna be a great segment.
He is the radio co host of the pre and
post game for Kansas Basketball. We have Sean Kellerman on
the line. Sean, how are you going today?
Speaker 8: What's up? Ron doing great?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 8: How are you?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I have to ask this first one.
Get out the way. Kind of a funny one, you know.
I saw Kellerman the last name. I'm like, is there
any relation to you know, Max Kellerman? I have to
get it out of the way. You probably have gotten
at your whole life.
Speaker 8: I've gotten it. Yeah, ever since Max got big on
ESPN and all of his escapades. No, no relate at all.
I thought it was so interesting when I first saw
him because I come from a big family. But I
actually don't see a lot of Kellerman, so no relations
So I guess I got to home my own road here.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're holding a down, no doubt about it. Us.
Speaker 7: Sean.
Speaker 2: Just give us a little bit of background. What you do,
where you do it at. I think this is the
first time we had you on the program.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, So, like you said, I am the host
of the pre and postgame show for the Jayhawk Radio Network.
I'm in my eighth year doing that. Also do postgame
on the network for KU football. We do the Crimson
a Blue Show and the Jayhawk Locker Room Show once
pre one's post and basically are on thirty plus stations
across the state of Kansas and of course online as well,
so we're the place to go for all the pre
game postgame coverage and we go on essentially before the
game broadcast and come on again after and then I
also host a sports talk show during the week called
Rock Chalk Sports at Kansas Nation. Kansas Nation is a
studio that we have downtown Massachusetts Street in Lawrence. That's
kind of the big downtown place to be in Lawrence
is Massachusetts Street. So got a nice studio down there,
and yeah, host our show for Kansas Nation. But yeah, separately,
Game Day covers Jayhawk Radio Network and it's been a blast.
Speaker 2: Man, you got a lot of hats that you wear
and you do a phenomenal job. I was obviously when
I when I talked to you this morning about what
we would discuss and looked up, I was like, man,
I was like, this dude is phenomenals, Like how have
we missed having them on, especially with that last name Kellerman,
no doubt before I know this is a basketball segment,
but I do need to ask you. I guess about
football too, because white football runs the ship at every
you know program unless it's Arizona football drives the ship.
The basketball drive the ship there. Excuse me, but just
thoughts on you know, lands light Pole. The Kansas Jayhawks
by US zero and two against the men in football,
Batuno and basketball. So far Jayalen Daniels leaves the program,
but you pick up a nice pickup and Dylan Edwards
in the offseason.
Speaker 7: I like his game from Kansas State.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you feel like, uh Kansas
takes in football going into the off season?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Straight?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 8: First off? The two to zero BYU is against Kansas
and basketball and oh and two in football? You wouldn't
have you wouldn't have guessed that right since never BYU
joined the conference. So yeah, that's kind of how it's gone.
But you know, the last two seasons of KU football
have been have been disappointing. I would say it's fair
to say that five and seven both years and disappointing
because I mean, you know, everybody knows where Kansas football was.
From about two thousand and eight until twenty twenty. We
had season where we didn't win any games, and it
was it was down in the dumps. You hired Lighthole
than twenty twenty one, and then he really brought the
program up from the dead. I mean, it was the
bottom program in terms of power conferences, and you won
six games, went to the Liberty Bowl in twenty two,
you won nine games, You won the rate Bawl at
Chase Field in twenty three, and then you had Jaylen
Daniels coming back for twenty four and you were thinking,
all right, this is the last year JD.
Speaker 7: And he was.
Speaker 8: Rusty the first half, didn't play well the second half.
So then he got another year of him in twenty
five and he was great the first half and then
didn't play well the second half. So he had like
a thirteen game stretch where he was as good as
any quarterback in KU history. But it was across two
seasons and Kansas, you know, just didn't get consistent play.
You pair that with losing so many close games, blowing
so many fourth quarter leads, and it led to back
to back five and seven seasons. But this upcoming season,
like you said, it'll be the first time since Leifhold
got here that there's a quarterback battle. Isaiah Marshall I
think is going to eventually win that. He is a
guy who's going to be third year in the program,
a dual threat, kind of can do a little bit
of everything, but he'll be a little raw still with
not having as much game talent. And you mentioned Edwards.
I mean, he came over from k State and they
hate us, so that was kind of funny for us.
He's the type of scatback that we needed. The big
story for Kansas football heading into this upcoming season, Ron
is we're bringing back our offensive coordinator from those two
bowl seasons that I mentioned, Andy Kolmicky is coming back
as the associate head coach. He spent the last two
seas as Penn State's offensive coordinator. So we're keeping our
offensive coordinator, but we're bringing Cotl Nikki back as the
associate head coach, and I think having the dual threat
QB that I think again Marshall will win that job.
With Edwards who comes over from k State and some
other nice pieces, there's reason for hope for sure. And
we got a new stadium that's going to be finalized
at the end of twenty twenty six. I think there's
a decent amount of pressure to win this upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what the jay Awks have. I love
Lance light Pole, what he brings and he he runs
his program. It's been fun to watch Jalen Daniels, Andy
col and Nicky. Like you said, I'm excited to see
what he does. And look, I know Kansas State hates you,
but look things that went wrong and that's how it goes.
We all know all about eight over here. It would
b YU and Utah, so I trust me. I know
about those in state Robberie games for sure. I'm excited
for that new stadium as well. So this is going
to be a fun time.
Speaker 7: Bay.
Speaker 2: You will travel to Lawrence in November. I don't like
that that matchup's late. I won't lie to you, Sean.
That might be the one that could help bo you
out of the big tol Chip. We'll see, because yeah,
it's hard to win in Kansas. It's hard to win
in Kansas, man.
Speaker 8: Yeah it is. It is no doubt about it. And yeah,
we're actually going we got a London game the first
game ever played at Wembley Stadium September nineteenth, KU, Arizona State.
We're kind of forfeiting a home game for that, which
is going to make it four home games and or
five home games, whatever it is, forfeiting one to go
play the first ever game against Arizona State because the
stadium is gonna be half under construction and it's a
quasi rebuilding year. They say, But but that'll be a
good experience for the guys.
Speaker 2: It will be that's you can't be taking those international trips,
especially as a team, got to enjoy those. Well, let's
get to what everybody wants to hear. The premier matchup,
the projected number one, number two pick going at it
number thirteen BYU number fourteen Kansas tomorrow. Just your overall
thoughts on this game. It was announced earlier yesterday. I
believe Darren Peterson will play. Bill self confirmed that. I'm
excited for that. I didn't there was no doubt in
my mind or I don't think yours anybody else that
Darren would miss this matchup at all.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, I mean, you know, I think he could
have played at k State when KU won there on Saturday,
but I thought it was interesting and maybe a semi
flex to case State postgame when coach said, oh yeah,
he'll plays as we didn't need him today necessarily, but
he's gonna want to play. I mean, it's just there
have been games that Darren's missed, and you know, there's
a lot that's gone into that, and it's been tough
for KU fans honestly. I mean, you know how fan
bases get. I mean people say, oh, you collecting the
nil check and all that. He legitimately has had leg issues,
whether it was a hamstring or cramping and that sort
of thing, and it just hasn't been a one hund situation.
And I think you know, a couple of weeks ago,
he was getting close to one hundred percent and then
rolled his ankle at Colorado. Did finish that game, but
you knew with the fact that Kansas bye week coming,
you know, happened to be in between k State and BYU,
It's like, okay, only one game in the next ten days.
Let's see if we can rest up DP and see
if he can go. So I'm not saying he's going
to be one hundred percent, but I think he'll be
as close to it as he's been. We haven't heard
much from the leg side of things. I assume that's
subsided the past month or so, so that's been big.
Speaker 2: I'll say this.
Speaker 8: Regarding ka You. You know, with Peterson being in out
of the lineup, it's been pretty choppy for Kansas until
the Iowa State game. K you lost to West Virginia.
They were sitting at eleven and five, one and two
in Big twelve play. You lose to West Virginia, who
you know, at that time, you're thinking it was a
bottom feeder. All of a sudden, you look and they're
five and three, but you lose to West Virginia and
you're like, man, this is not right. We're falling out
of the rankings. And now we got number two Iowa
State coming in. I don't know what changed, but Iowa
State came in and Kay, you just put it on them.
And it was the first time with DP out there
that k You really was showing aggressiveness from all spots.
With Peterson in and out of the lineup, there had
been times where Kansas looked better without him because the
guy had just so many more reps without him, and
then when he came back it was a lot of
ball watching kind of stagnant because it was a lot
of all, right, let's just stand in the corner and
watch DP go to work. Something clicked to where the
guys started being aggressive when VP was out there and
DP was aggressive, and all of a sudden, the guys
were kind of jelling. And now we saw, even though
DP didn't play against k State, it looked like a
team that's kind of found its rhythm. So K's rolled
off four straight after the Io State game. It hasn't
been the most difficult stretch, but they needed to win
those four games to kind of get back in the conversation.
And again, most importantly is it seems like the guys
are gelling more whether Peterson is out there or not,
which was a really big story around here while he
was in and out during most of the non con.
Speaker 2: Look, those four games are valuable. You beat a top
ten opponent at home. I know it was on the
road for them, but that's difficult. You beat him by twenty,
then you have to play Baylor, a top quad one team.
You beat them, then you got to go on the road.
We know how difficult it is to win in the
Big twelve you get a Colorado team and then you
get a Kansas State team. Both of those places aren't
easy to play. So I mean, I look at that schedule,
people could say not formidable, but to me, that's that's
tough regardless. But that leads me to my next question.
This team Elite eight team, you know, where do you
see the ceiling? Obviously you need a player like Darren
Petison to compete for a national championship, but you just
mentioned it. At times when he's not in the gamer
on the floor, they look better at times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they have, And I think that that's going to
eventually not be true because I think assuming DP is
going to be healthy. You know people, I mean people
around here again, like I said, you know how fans get.
I mean they get salty and they get tried full
about their program and you know, oh, you know, they
want him to be tiring enough about Kansas to play
out there no matter he does. It's not that, it's
just you know, everything's better when you're winning, and everything's
worse when you're losing, and so if you're losing, all
of a sudden, it feels like the wheels are falling off.
This guy doesn't want to play here. Do the guys
even like each other? There hasn't been any of that.
But I think with a healthy Peterson out there, I
think Kansas could get to the Final four. And I
know that's saying a lot, but what's changed compared to
the last couple of years which have been I can't
even overstay this incredibly disappointing from a kau basketball standpoint.
You're a four seed and a seven seed. Kansas had
never been lower than a four before getting a seven
last year, so people were hungry for a roster turnover.
The difference is they've gotten these other guys in who
they've hit on in the transfer portal, primarily Melvin Council
and Trey White. Melvin Council is the heartbeat of this team.
I mean, he's unbelievably fast. He plays, you know, with
that dog type energy that you'll see a lot. And
then Trey White, he's having the best year of his career.
I mean he's shooting upwards a forty percent from three.
He's only six six probably, but he's got five double
doubles and he's not afraid to be in there with
the trees. It seems like every other game he's got
a bloody nose in there, and they're just kind of
embracing the Kansas culture and the tough that coach self
has always wanted and has always had so much success for.
So I do think Final four could be a ceiling
for this team. A lot has to come together, and
I honestly think, even though we don't like talking until
it gets closer to March about seating, my big thing
is you got to get up to that three line
if you can, because Kansas is being on the four
to five. I mean, you know how the tournament is.
You're to four to five. I mean your first game
is hard, and then your second game is against a
four or five, and then your next games against the one.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 8: You don't want that, so you want to try to
get up to the two three line. And as hard
as Kansas schedule is moving forward and a lot of
big twelve teams, it also is an opportunity to do
that and continue to build your resume.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 8: But if everybody's able to stay healthy, I love what
I've seen in the last couple of weeks in terms
of a ceiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned obviously the schedule and everything let's go
back a little bit at i Always State game. He said,
Trey white Man, was he special in that game? Nineteen points,
those ten rebounds, like you said, one of those double
doubles leading obviously Kansas in that game. And look that
dude gets ht He's scary. I was watching him a shoot.
I was like, if look you go back to Iowa
State last year, when you think of the guys that
they had, I'm forgetting the guy that was lighting it
up from from thee. Yeah, Curtis Jones, Yeah exactly, you
just took it. He reminds me of that. Like when
he gets going, he's a problem. And like Frank Freschilda says,
you better stop him because if you don't, he's gonna
punish you a lot. And and look it's not just
offensively like you mentioned, he will go in there and
being a guy of six five six six bang down
on and grab boards, which look this big the Big
twelve Conference is so talented. From your standpoint, what do
you observe because you just said schedule right, you're gonna
play BYU. Do you go on the road to play
number eleven Texas Tech and then you know the schedule?
The rest of all, you got Iowa State again, Houston
at home, you go on the road to number one Arizona.
Is this this conference is elite from top to bottom.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's brutal. And I know Arizona's got a tough
schedule this stretch too. They gotta play you guys twice.
They gotta play us twice. And uh, it's nice being
a good program like KU and by you have because
then you can you can have that mindset of yeah,
we had to play these teams, but they got to
play us, right. But that's the situation this next month,
and that's why those last four games that we talked
about were so important for K. You just kind of
getting back to where they need to be at five
and two, a respectable conference record at this point. But yeah,
it's kind of the one game at a time mentality
and knowing that it's not going to be fun when
Arizona comes to town or when Houston comes to town,
and Lubbock's become one of the tougher places to play
in the conference, and that'll be a quick turnaround for
KU also. But you know, one other thing I want
to point out about the roster. You mentioned White and
he really has been a dog. And these guys in
the portal, because you look Kansas the last couple of years,
I mean, they missed on aj Store that didn't work out,
Ryley Griffin didn't work out, Nick Kimberlake the year before
that didn't work out. They've had some misses. But Counsel
and White, those are the guys who have really, like
I said, embraced the culture. And the other thing that
makes Kansas ceiling getting to the Final four, in my opinion,
is Flori Bidunga, who's a guy who remember remember he
went into the transfer portal briefly and Kau essentially had
to get him back. He's a sophomore. The whole chatter
around here in the offseason, Ron was the one two
punch of Darren Peterson and Floyd Badunga and Prow. The
non kink kind of went on, and Kansas did have
some great moments and won all three games in Vegas.
The players there and all that. The non kink kind
of went on, as you had the DP saga where
he was in and out of the lineup, and Flori
was okay, had some good moments, but it was a
lot of Melvin council Trey White grinding out these wins
and a lot of good things in that. But the
last couple of weeks you've still had counsel in White.
But then you've got DP, who's just an incredibly special talent,
and we've seen that at times, and then all of
a sudden, Flory's coming about. He had twenty one to
ten against k State. He doesn't have the whitest body,
but he's very bouncy and he's a great rim protector.
Now this stat isn't taking into account Wilts because it
goes back to seventy four to seventy five, but Flory
was the quickest to a hunt Blocks and KU history
since that was supported. And he also has shown the
ability the last couple games to guard one through five.
I mean PJ. Haggerty couldn't get by him Case State.
I mean he had that kind of ability to keep
PJ down and not allow him anything easy. And then
when they do shoot, he's able to protect the rims.
So that's gonna be big, I think, especially tomorrow against Buyu,
because you guys got a lot of dudes, and certainly
Rob Wright was our absolute nightmare in Waco last year.
Oh they remember second half. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure
and we remember too. We had had a lot of
games that we want to forget in recent years. But
he was a nightmare. But again, you know, we're gonna
switch a lot. We have the guys. I'm hoping for
a big game from Bryce and Tiller because he's he's
really talented, raw freshman that'll start at the four, but
you know, not quite as quick twitch as some of
those other guys. But the ability to switch four or
five is big. And Flory the Dune gets a big
reason why Kansas can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at Floria obviously, the sixteen, two hundred
and thirty five pound. Look, their big Bay is gonna
go big. Is gonna be a great matchup? Is that
the guy to guard Aj? Look, I know everybody's gonna
be like, all right, AJ and Darren go out of
which they guarded each other in high school. The last
time they matched up, I think Darren dropped fifty eight,
the buzzer beater in ajad forty nine.
Speaker 7: That's not happening tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I don't think guys are gonna go one on one,
and if you do, I think you're gonna lose the game.
I don't think you can buy into the NBA narrative
of let them go out of you have to play
team basketball. But it is Floria that guy to to
take Aj, you know, to start the game, just with
how athletic he is in that size and like you said,
coming off with twenty one ten performance.
Speaker 8: My gut would say yes. But I'm worried about all
your guys because because Caba Keda.
Speaker 5: Is a load.
Speaker 8: I mean, he kind of reminds me around these parts
of kJ Adams, who I know, you guys respond, but
Caba is even bigger, a better imp protector, and even
stronger than kJ, who is just a freak athlete in
his own right. But I could see just from a
quickness standpoint, Flory being matched up initially with AJ, and
then BT, who usually plays the four, would be matched
up with with Cada, and again, I'm tiller potentially getting
in foul trouble would be a concern because we don't
go we don't go deeper. I mean, Trey White kind
of plays the four at times and he's, like I said,
only six six, So that's gonna be a big is
a big deal? Is can Kansas too? Big stay out
of foul trouble and uh, and they do have the
ability to switch, like obviously if if AG's got the
ball and Kansas is switching, you know, Council is a
really good defender. And then DP obviously hasn't links as well.
But yeah, I mean, I'm it's not just the big
three that you look at that that's Scario with a
J and and Saunders and right it's Jones hit five
threes or Davis rather hit five threes. And then you
know Cada I already mentioned is averaging nearly two blocks
a game. But but Saunders has given me some nightmares too,
so I'm interested to see if Kansas can can keep
him off the line. The other thing that that you know,
as you know, is a rarity is is b why
used beating Kansas the last two years? And in our
true our beautiful trip to Provo and Salt Lake City
last year was about as rock bottom as this program
has been since Coach celt has been here, not just
because you guys got us by thirty four, but then
we went to Utah and lost. Yeah, and you can
imagine how people here are feeling about Kansas basketball listening
to Utah. I mean, I don't want to be disrespectful,
but what are we doing, guys? So it was definitely
a trying trip that I know. There were some interesting
locker rooms after that, and k you never could quite
figure it out. But yeah, I think there may be
a little bit of a revenge factor. But at the
end of the day, it'll be all that in the
pomp and circumstances of game day. It'll be one in
between the lines, and it should be an awesome game.
Speaker 2: It should be, like I said, students already camping. I
was going to be loud, raucous. I mean, that's the
environments you want to play. And if you're Darren Peterson,
you got the home crowd this time. But going on
the road in AJ as well as definitely gonna be
a game, no doubt. Yeah that I had never seen
Bill self and A I mean you probably saw it.
He cost two timeouts in the first like six minutes,
and he after the second one, he put his hands
behind his head and lean back and said, Yep, it's
gonna be.
Speaker 7: I'm like, is he admitting defeat this.
Speaker 2: Or and it was it was. It was defeated in
the first like five minutes a so wow. I don't
think I've ever seen a college basketball game where the
players and the coaches feel feel that pressure and like
it's it's over. Like it was over in the first
five minutes of the game.
Speaker 8: We actually had a on the Jayhawk radio network. We
had a coach who's no longer on staff come on
and he didn't say this on air, but he had
told one of my coworkers basically that we were going
to know in the first five minutes if it was
going to be a blowout or if or if we
were going to be able to hang and we did
right away no, that it was not gonna go Ky's way.
But you know, KU, last year, like I said, they
were the seven. They've never been lower than a four
before that since coach has been here. But they didn't
have the ceiling, which is silly because the last two
years KU was preseason number one. But you look at
the roster and it's like, well, why you know, like
Hunter Dickinson obviously was was a good player in terms
of points and rebounds, but he was kind of slower.
And Dwan Harris was a nice floor general point guard,
but he wasn't like these ridiculously talented guys that we're
seeing in college basketball right now. And and k you,
like I said, missed on some of those portal guys
just didn't work out either. But yeah, it was a
it was a rough three day stretch to Utah for
kau and and honestly, last year what did it for KU?
They had a late January game at home against Houston.
I don't know if you remember, I yeah, I mean
Kansas had a six point lead and regulation down the
stretch blew it. Overtime happened, then he got a six
point lead and you're shooting free throws a few seconds
to go and you blow that somehow, And it's just
I think that was something they never recovered from. But
vibes are much better around here this year because you
do have the guys who have kind of embraced the
culture and and uh, you know they're they're hoping to
hoping to grind through this thing here.
Speaker 2: With Sean Kellumer radio co host for the pregame and
postgame with Kansas basketball so on Jayhawk Radio, does a
lot of other things. You gotta check them out, you
gotta follow them on extra Twitters or whatever. The kids
in the adult call it these days. I'll get you
out of here on this sean and appreciate your time.
I wish we could go longer, but we have to
end the show. We're gonna have to bring you back
later in the season when BYU football definitely comes along.
How do you see this one playing out? BYU has
yet to get a quad one win on the road.
I know Ag and Rob are coming off a nine
and forty performance, but to go to beat Kansas three
times in a row, to go back to back trips,
to fall to Lawrence Kansas, to winning fog allen Field OUs,
I feel like that's a tough ass to have a
team to do, especially when you have a projected number
one overall pick on the roster.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 8: And we know that that's not something that's between the lines,
but it also is very real, right, and I think
that that may be a factor. I think it might be,
at least as a k fan. K fans are hoping
it would be kind of one of those Allen Field
House games where you know down the stretch you're able
to get that extra juice and get it done. I'll
tell you I felt great about Kansas against Iowa State.
Everybody thought I was crazy, but Kay was one and
two and reeling Bill Selsley in postgame. West Virginia. We
suck right now. I just felt like the guys would
bounce back because that's how they've done a majority of
Coach Sell's tenure. And they went out in cloverdhom. I
felt good about the other three games. This one, I
don't feel as good about it. And I think a
lot of that is the talent of BYU. And you know,
I saw Kansas was a small favorite. I think it's
going to be even closer than that. I think it's
going to be one of those down to the last
one or two possessions. And like you said, you know,
we don't want it to be a Peterson versus Bonsa thing.
But hopefully college basketball fans, NBA fans, whoever is tuning
in can appreciate the greatness that both these guys have
and enjoy it. And I know that the message that
I'm sure coach self and Coach Young have said is, Hey,
this is a team effort. We got to do it together.
It's not just about all this, but enjoy that show.
And I think it'll come down to the wire. I
think it's important for Kansas to limit the three ball,
whether it's Saunders or Wright who hello is shooting forty
three percent from three, or or Davis as well. That's
always going to be key. And the other thing that
scares me from a k fan perspective is BYU cleans
up the offensive glass. That's where KU has been susceptible
this year too. So can the bigs of KU stay
out of foul trouble? Can they clean up the defensive rebounds?
That sort of thing. All that is going to be important.
But yeah, man, it should be should be an instant classic.
I wish we got you guys twice this year because
I know the mary out then it would be just see.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you mentioned that Bret Or Martini, who
to have a conversation needs to be investigated. I want
a thirty for thirty. Why is that not twice? Like, look,
I know the winner of this is probably going to
be the number one draft pick, let's just be honest.
But like that, do you feel that's just as criminal
that BYU and Kansas when we get this matchup once?
Speaker 8: Absolutely? And I know they went from twenty to eighteen
games and they want to keep Ku with kse State,
which I'm honestly we hate. In the Zoo. I could
care less about facing Casey Ksetate hates us, but but
you know, Zoo is who we really hate. But they
want to keep those those teams together. But yeah, even self,
I remember said at some point during the season last year,
because in January or something last year talking about scheduling.
When asked, he said, you know, what are the chances
kind of rhetorically, what are the chances that Peters and
Debonta get each other twice next year? Like assuming it
would happen because everybody assumed it would happen because it's
such a showcase. But yeah, very strange. We get I
would stay in Arizona twice, which is not exactly fun.
I know that Arizona get gets Us and you guys twice,
So I don't know who did all that, but only
get three teams twice. You still think they could have
probably made room on the schedule for one versus two
A couple of times, you definitely would.
Speaker 2: Someone in Vegas is not doing anything right, Someone's not
nice anyway. But look, yeah you gotta Kansas limit the
old boards. Don't get in foul trouble. If your BYU
number twenty two last time hit a buzzer beater against
AJ's team, it could happen again game days there. You
said they were setting up earlier when we talked earlier
this afternoon, I'm excited for this matchup.
Speaker 7: And look, I think you would agree.
Speaker 2: Whoever wins this game, this is going to determine who's
the five or the six and give full advantage in
the Big twelve standings and going into the tournament.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's going to be important, right, the tie breakers,
all that's important. The seed that you get in the
Big twelve tournament, all that matters. And like I said,
in terms of the NCAA tournament, I just I'm just
hopeful Kansas is able to hop over the four or
five line, just because you know you're facing a good
team pretty much pretty much throughout they're all good teams.
But but yeah, if you could sneak up to a
two or three, that'd be big. And there's only so
many marquee games that you can really do that. But yeah,
it should be shaping up to be in the one
thousandth game at Allen Field House special it's ever played. Yeah,
it should be a really special one.
Speaker 2: Hey, best time, number one, number two pick. Going at
it BYU number thirteen, number fourteen Kansas tomorrow in the
one thousand game in fag Allen Field House with Bill Soff,
one of the greatest college coaches, will BYU. As I
keep joking put Bill self into retirement. I always keep
joking about that. But we'll see. I think Kansas might
get this one tomorrow and it might solidify a lot
of things. Sean, Before I let you go, it has
been great having You've got to get you back on
when especially when you get back to pro. I got
to take you out to dinner for sure. Best way
our listeners can support you what you're doing, how you do.
Speaker 8: It, Hey, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, you can follow us on socials at the Kansas Nation.
That's where we have our daily show called Rock Talk
Sports Talk All Things KU at the Kansas Nation on Twitter,
and then I'm on Twitter at Sean Kellerman as well.
But yeah, on the Jayhawk Radio Network, we'll have all
sorts of coverage. Hoping to get Jay Billis on pregame
and yeah, hoping to have a great time. But really
appreciate it. Ron and enjoyed coming on absolutely well, return
the favor when you get to Lawrence. Would love to
take you out here as well, and hopefully a lot
of a lot of great conversations, a lot of great
matchups and breaking bread down the line as a conference post.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we definitely will break bread. You'll break bread with me.
Actually earlier. I'll be there in March for that big
twelve tournament, so you'll catch me that first, and then
definitely I'll make my way down to Lawrence, Kansas. I
going to the graduated last April, and we went and
we saw all of the buildings and everything down there.
Got to go tout fag allen Man. Beauty, beautiful campus,
beautiful campus.
Speaker 8: Yeah it is appreciate it. Yeah, I went to school
here and it's never left. Oh that's how That's how
strong I feel about it. But I've heard great things
about That.
Speaker 7: Was my interview with Sean Keller. Meuni to hear.
Speaker 2: At the end of that, we were just discussing the
buildings I went on the trip. Not not important, But
what is important is this BYU Kansas matchup two thirty
PMS Mountain time, tip off three thirty pm Central. That
coming up next AP and myself will give the keys
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one O three nine uh Utah, ESPN Radio Sports and Eric. Look,
we got to jump right into it. We don't have
much time. It's very simple here my keys to the
game that I'll turn it over to AP. In order
for you to get a victory, you must win the
offense around or excuse me, offensive rebound battle. Kansas gives
them up. They play good defense. You gotta push in transition.
BOI has to good. You have to stay out of
foul trouble. There there's your three and then the last
one you need to unlock. The tot King Richie needs
to get down here early and often. And then outside
of that, the last one that I would add, what
you already doing because you build on stuff is not
really a key to the game. Keep doing what you're doing.
Keep allowing Canard to hit those shots, Alexi to come in,
but offensive rebounds, stay out of foul trouble, pushing transition
and I locked the top King and that should get
your victory.
Speaker 7: This matters.
Speaker 2: This game does bo you fifth currently right now in
the Big twelve standings. Beating Kansas will give you that
tie break that game above you lost to Texas Tech already,
You've already lost Arizona.
Speaker 7: You know they are a handful of games back.
Speaker 2: BAYU three and one, excuse me three and two probably
don't scoose me five and two in conference play three
on one at home and two and one on thorough Kenna,
get that first Premiere Quad one matchup.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: It's going to be tough, indeed, and look, it doesn't
get any easier. You play Houston, you play Iowa State,
you play UCF, you play West Jenny, you already beat TC,
you play Oklahoma State, you play Colorado, you play Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: You play Baylor.
Speaker 2: All of those games matter in terms of seeds can
be what you get it done today and lock themselves
into that five spot going forth. Those are my keys
of the game.
Speaker 7: AP. What you got for is before we close it out.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say you need to take care of the ball.
I think you need to win the turnover battle. I
think you need to turn Kansas over and I think
you need to take care of the ball. Kansas isn't
great at getting steals compared to Byu.
Speaker 5: I think b Yu should have an advantage there. I
think that's what you need to lean into.
Speaker 6: My score prediction is gonna be BYU wins this one,
seventy six to seventy two. I think it's gonna be close,
and I don't think either team gets to the eighty mark.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it stays under eighty.
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go sixty eight seventy four. I think Bayu wins,
you know, not by that many, but enough. They should
win by ten. But I think that that's what they do.
And I know I was maybe a little bit yesterday,
I wasn't sure. I think that BAU does get that
first quad one road. When Kevin Young knows how to
bounce back after his back is against the wall, he
doesn't back down, and I think basab to get it
done today on the road one thousand game in fog
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