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Speaker 2: You know, this sounds like a rare, unusual statistic, but
Speaker 2: I guess for a Week one in the NFL, it's
Speaker 2: probably not that rare. But there was only one team
Speaker 2: yesterday that kicked off as at least a touchdown favorite.
Speaker 2: All the other spreads were much lower as everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to figure out who's who in the NFL. But the
Speaker 2: Bengals were the only team that you know, that were
Speaker 2: favored by a touchdown and they ended up losing to
Speaker 2: a team that, I mean, a lot of people, myself included,
Speaker 2: expected to be one of the worst in the league.
Speaker 2: And that's the New England page. So Week one of
Speaker 2: the NFL season not completely in the books just yet,
Speaker 2: because we've We've got one thy football tonight with the
Speaker 2: Niners and the Jets, which should be a good game. Again.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping the Niners can cover minus three and a
Speaker 2: half as I need that last leg for my NFL
Speaker 2: parlay to hit, which you know would be good for me.
Speaker 2: I ended up finishing pretty solid on Saturday. I parlayed Nebraska,
Speaker 2: which I took them money on. I should have taken
Speaker 2: them to cover. They killed Colorado, which was great to see.
Speaker 2: And then also I ended up getting Tennessee minus eight
Speaker 2: and a half against n C State, another blowout victory.
Speaker 2: So did not do well in the NFL in the
Speaker 2: first games yesterday, the first wave of games that started
Speaker 2: at one o'clock, but I ended up putting something together
Speaker 2: that included two of the games yesterday afternoon and then
Speaker 2: of course last night. I also got in on the Lions,
Speaker 2: very very happy that they got the ball to start
Speaker 2: overtime and we're able to score a touchdown to end
Speaker 2: the game, because if it would have been just a
Speaker 2: field goal, then that would have got me. So again tonight,
Speaker 2: I need the Niners to win and cover three and
Speaker 2: a half as favorites, So let's let's hope that happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys probably don't give a damn unless
Speaker 2: you bet on that too, But that's what I need
Speaker 2: and I'm hopeful that that's what that's what plays out
Speaker 2: so real quick, just considering we are coming off of
Speaker 2: the first Sunday of NFL action, I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like the Panthers being just completely I mean that that
Speaker 2: was one of the worst opening games I think I've
Speaker 2: ever seen from an NFL team, and you know, the
Speaker 2: Saints aren't expected to be, you know, dominant, right. I
Speaker 2: will say this, I can appreciate a fan base that's
Speaker 2: really good at at laughing at themselves. And that's what Carolina.
Speaker 2: I got a buddy who who hosts radio and Charlotte
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's a Panthers fan, and and
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying to be optimistic about the new era,
Speaker 2: year two of Bryce Young, and the first past Bryce
Speaker 2: Young through yesterday was intercepted. And I think the tweet
Speaker 2: my buddy put out there said, if you're looking for
Speaker 2: something positive, something encouraging, it took only one pass for
Speaker 2: Bryce Young to throw an interception to start the game
Speaker 2: in the second half. It was only his second pass
Speaker 2: of the half that was intercepted. So there you go. Positivity.
Speaker 3: That's like the Kenny Payne style of positivity last year.
Speaker 2: But he tried to actually, can you not till we're
Speaker 2: getting better, you're still losing and getting embarrassed, you bum
Speaker 2: the Bengals man, Like the stat about Zach Taylor is insane.
Speaker 2: He is now He's been there a long time, and
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up the number here because it
Speaker 2: is it's almost unbelievable. He's now two and ten I
Speaker 2: think it is in Week one and Week two games
Speaker 2: as the coach there. I mean, that's unheard of. And
Speaker 2: he's getting a lot of criticism from Bingles fans who
Speaker 2: hate that he doesn't play a lot of his guys
Speaker 2: in the preseason at all, including Joe Burrow. And you
Speaker 2: want to keep Joe Burrow healthy, right A nightmare thing
Speaker 2: would be him getting hurt in a meaningless preseason game.
Speaker 2: But he he wasn't himself yesterday. I mean a lot
Speaker 2: of the I mean, I felt like there was some
Speaker 2: criticism for Burrow yesterday, more so than you typically hear
Speaker 2: from Bingles fans because you know, he wasn't the only problem,
Speaker 2: but you know, he also just didn't play well. And
Speaker 2: I still think the Bengals have a chance to be
Speaker 2: pretty good, but a very very disappointing. I mean, in fact,
Speaker 2: just giving expectations for the Bengals, they're a team that
Speaker 2: probably isn't a realistic like Super Bowl contender to win
Speaker 2: the whole thing, but they've got a good roster Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow took him to the Super Bowl a few years ago.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's been that long, so for them
Speaker 2: to come out and lose sixteen to ten to a
Speaker 2: terrible Patriots team, at least the team that everybody expected
Speaker 2: to be terrible this year, like that's probably the biggest
Speaker 2: surprise of the NFL season thus far, although again we
Speaker 2: haven't even finished the first week. And then the Bears
Speaker 2: somehow win yesterday after leading what was it seventeen to
Speaker 2: nothing or something like that. I mean, they went twenty
Speaker 2: four to seventeen and Will Levis with one of the
Speaker 2: worst interceptions you'll ever see ever, and the Bears hold
Speaker 2: on to win despite having zero offense. I do love
Speaker 2: people sharing the old the old article from the summer.
Speaker 2: At some point when whenever Kayla Williams of course first
Speaker 2: pick overall of the Bears, he was meeting a lot
Speaker 2: of his teammates in Chicago, and there's a video of
Speaker 2: him meeting the punter and telling him, you won't have
Speaker 2: to do a whole lot of work this year when
Speaker 2: their offense didn't do anything yesterday. In fact, they punted
Speaker 2: probably more. That guy probably used his leg more yesterday
Speaker 2: than he has in a long time. And then nobody
Speaker 2: cares about my Colts. But you know, Richardson a flash
Speaker 2: a rocket launcher for an arm But that, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's all. I mean that there's a lot of guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, JaMarcus Russell. He could also throw it ten miles.
Speaker 2: Got sucked as a quarterback. And I'm not ready to say, well,
Speaker 2: actually I can say it because it's the truth. Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson has never been successful as a quarterback in high school.
Speaker 2: His senior season, his team went too and eight at
Speaker 2: at Florida, losing record. Only one season as a starter,
Speaker 2: went six and seven, went zero to two as a
Speaker 2: starting quarterback against Vanderbilt. He's never been good as a quarterback.
Speaker 2: He just has all the measurables and he can throw
Speaker 2: it really far and really hard. And that's what we
Speaker 2: did to invest in our franchise with that. I mean,
Speaker 2: he wasn't the biggest problem yesterday. But he also threw
Speaker 2: one terrible interception. You know, he throws it one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty miles an hour when he's throwing a ten
Speaker 2: yard pass. It's just you know, but nobody cares about
Speaker 2: the Colts. They're going to be irrelevant for a long time,
Speaker 2: because that's what happens, right. We were we were. We
Speaker 2: were not dangerous, but we were We maintained some relevance
Speaker 2: for a long stretch because one Peyton Manning was our
Speaker 2: quarterback for a really, really long time. And then we
Speaker 2: also were able to maintain relevance because Andrew Luck was
Speaker 2: really good for us right out of the gate and
Speaker 2: we were making the playoffs and you know, he was
Speaker 2: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL whenever he
Speaker 2: was around. And then now we've gone from you know,
Speaker 2: we had a different quarterback every year as the starter,
Speaker 2: and you know, now we've got this guy that they
Speaker 2: drafted that isn't, in my opinion, going to be the
Speaker 2: guy for very long. I mean, he'll be the guy
Speaker 2: this year, but they're not going to win many games.
Speaker 2: And if they do, I'll be I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: I'll eat crow. I would love to be wrong about
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. I just can't, like, I can't ignore the
Speaker 2: facts that, like, he's literally never been good as a quarterback,
Speaker 2: even though he's got that big arm. Didn't help him
Speaker 2: in high school, didn't help him in college. I mean,
Speaker 2: you turn these guys. I mean, somebody's so raw at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. When if you're really raw, when you're
Speaker 2: you know, seventeen eighteen or maybe you know, after a
Speaker 2: year college, you can develop. But to get to the
Speaker 2: NFL having never been successful at that position, I don't
Speaker 2: care what kind of tools you have. Like, he's also
Speaker 2: the kind of guy though, that would make total sense
Speaker 2: for you to not hand the keys over. I know,
Speaker 2: now that's the thing to do. If you draft a
Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round, you're throwing them in the fire.
Speaker 2: And some teams, you know, some of the best guys
Speaker 2: in the league didn't have to do that. Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: he got to set out for a year. Lamar got
Speaker 2: thrown in late in his rookie year. And those guys
Speaker 2: were a little more polished than Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson
Speaker 2: has never proven to be able to win games as
Speaker 2: a quarterback at any level, and now you're throwing him
Speaker 2: out there as your starter. What you should have done.
Speaker 2: You should have kept Minshew, You should have kept Gardner Minshew,
Speaker 2: who you know is not going to be the face
Speaker 2: of your franchise. He's not gonna be a guy forever.
Speaker 2: But he was good enough last year for you in
Speaker 2: most instances. And if you still mean again, like do
Speaker 2: you want to? I mean, maybe they know that this
Speaker 2: is just a you know, we'll see what happens with
Speaker 2: this guy. We're gonna we're gonna put him out there
Speaker 2: every game all season to see what we have and
Speaker 2: if we have nothing, you know what that means, We're
Speaker 2: gonna have another really good draft pick and maybe we
Speaker 2: go get somebody else. Maybe that's their logic. And if
Speaker 2: that's the case, I'll hate it this year because they're
Speaker 2: gonna suck, but at least I'll understand it. But like again,
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who get thrown into the fire, like Kayla Williams
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Like he's proven that he's really good and
Speaker 2: got all the tools, he's won, he's delivered, he's put
Speaker 2: up big numbers. All Anthony Richardson's ever done is shown
Speaker 2: that he can throw the ball really far and really
Speaker 2: really fast.
Speaker 3: Wow, what if the Colts do have a terrible season
Speaker 3: and they draft someone like Shador Sanders that get you
Speaker 3: really hyped up, wouldn't it?
Speaker 2: Well, that'll be that would be that would be the
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be it for me like I would.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been trying to quit the Colts for
Speaker 2: a while, but I just can't do it. When they
Speaker 2: lost to Jacksonville two years ago, all I had to
Speaker 2: do was beat the Jaguars to make the playoffs. When
Speaker 2: the Jaguars weren't even trying to win and they couldn't
Speaker 2: do that, I thought that was the moment. But that's
Speaker 2: when I learned about myself as a fan. When you've
Speaker 2: been so emotionally invested, you can't just quit your team,
Speaker 2: and if you want to, like, you can't just flip
Speaker 2: the switch. I've clearly lost a little bit of my
Speaker 2: and I shouldn't say love, but like, I'm a pretty
Speaker 2: apathetic fan right now. Right, I don't see anytime soon
Speaker 2: where this team is competing for, you know, the division,
Speaker 2: even I still want him to win. Like yesterday, you know,
Speaker 2: I in my pick them league, I had the Texans
Speaker 2: to cover, and sure enough, you know I was rooting
Speaker 2: for that not to happen because my Colts were at
Speaker 2: least in a ball game. But yeah, other than that,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I'm trying to think of there
Speaker 2: any other big noticeable I mean, in the Browns, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's I feel like this could have been said
Speaker 2: for the last year and a half, but now it's
Speaker 2: definitely being said. Deshaun Watson has the worst contract in
Speaker 2: the history of football. I mean, the amount of money
Speaker 2: he got guaranteed is something only the Browns would do
Speaker 2: and to be fair the market, you know, like the
Speaker 2: rest of the NFL. And Lamar was a great, great
Speaker 2: example of this. Lamar wanted Deshaun Watson money, more money
Speaker 2: because he knows he's better than him. He has proven
Speaker 2: that he's better than him in the NFL even and
Speaker 2: the Ravens were gonna give him that, and the NFL
Speaker 2: owners collectively, I think, you know, agreed. Just let everybody
Speaker 2: know only the dumb ass Cleveland Browns would give somebody
Speaker 2: that kind of money. We're not doing that. That's not
Speaker 2: a good investment. Don't look at what he got and
Speaker 2: think you're getting it too. We would never do that,
Speaker 2: and nobody else will other than the Browns, because you
Speaker 2: know the Browns. It is wild, though, to see the
Speaker 2: Browns have a good roster in a lot of places
Speaker 2: other than the quarterback, yet they've got so much money
Speaker 2: tied into this guy. That's fully guaranteed, whereas they ran
Speaker 2: off Baker Mayfield, who just keeps winning for the Buccaneers,
Speaker 2: just keeps winning, and the Cowboys. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if yesterday was more about the Cowboys of the Browns,
Speaker 2: but they did go into Cleveland in one it'll blowout
Speaker 2: and Dak got his money. And I think Dak getting
Speaker 2: getting that contract, I mean wouldn't shock me at all.
Speaker 2: If they end up having a good enough year to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs and he stinks in the playoffs, they
Speaker 2: lose again, and it's just rinse and repeat. We're doing
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. But if you're Dallas,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of you kind of had to give
Speaker 2: him the money. Maybe not that much, but then again,
Speaker 2: like you know, anytime there's a new quarterback getting a
Speaker 2: new contract, it's more often than not gonna be the
Speaker 2: biggest one ever because that's just you know, it keeps
Speaker 2: going up. The price tag for these quarterbacks in the
Speaker 2: NFL continues to grow in a major way. I haven't
Speaker 2: talked about it yet, not really sure what we can
Speaker 2: add other than what's out there. The Tyreek Hill situation
Speaker 2: yesterday was was something I mean imagine being somebody that's
Speaker 2: near hard Rock Stadium. And you see was it a
Speaker 2: Lamborghini or a Ferrari, one of those two? I believe
Speaker 2: that's pulled over and you got somebody laying on the
Speaker 2: ground with handcuffs on. You're like, is that Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 2: And sure enough it was. And you know, they've already
Speaker 2: got the officer that was involved in that on administrative
Speaker 2: leave while they look into it. It did seem a
Speaker 2: little excessive as far as you know, him being on
Speaker 2: the ground like that and him being in handcuffs, especially
Speaker 2: if it was a traffic situation. And of course a
Speaker 2: lot of people ended up bringing up the Scotti Scheffler
Speaker 2: situation and we'll see, is there gonna be bodycam footage
Speaker 2: of this? There was body cam, there wasn't as there
Speaker 2: wasn't as much bodycm footage as we would have liked.
Speaker 2: But we later found out that the officer involved in
Speaker 2: the Scotty Schefler situation was completely out of line and
Speaker 2: how they handled it and just you know, seemingly just
Speaker 2: abused authority, even if both were wrong, and even Scheffler,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like was confused and you know,
Speaker 2: was somewhat apologetic. You know, that's not how the officers
Speaker 2: within it. And by the way, we never talked about
Speaker 2: it on the show. But how about one of the
Speaker 2: guys involved that did not have his body came on
Speaker 2: in the scheffer thing later getting arrested from stealing money
Speaker 2: from somebody. He like, I mean, come on, like can't
Speaker 2: get out of your own way. But anyways, with Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, he said something yesterday that
Speaker 2: I can't be the only one who thought, like, come
Speaker 2: on now, like I get it, Like maybe that was
Speaker 2: just an officer being a tyrant as they say. We'll
Speaker 2: see if body cam footage comes out, and Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: was an a hole and he lied to us yesterday
Speaker 2: because he claims he never tried to utilize his his
Speaker 2: status and his you know, him being the star player
Speaker 2: for the Miami Dolphins like he he claims he never
Speaker 2: tried to use that to get out of a traffic
Speaker 2: ticket or something like that. He claims he was respectful.
Speaker 2: We'll see if there ends up being body cam footage
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But you know, he keeps saying, well, what
Speaker 2: if I wasn't Tyreek Hill, which is what a lot
Speaker 2: of people understandably said whenever it comes to Scotti Schefler. Right,
Speaker 2: Like Scott Scotty Scheffler was able to get out there
Speaker 2: and play golf that day, A lot of people in
Speaker 2: that position wouldn't have been able to even get get
Speaker 2: bailed out for days because of needing to see a judge,
Speaker 2: bond and all that kind of stuff. But when he says,
Speaker 2: what if I wasn't Tyreek Kill, I mean, dude, if
Speaker 2: you weren't Tyreek Kill, you might be in jail for
Speaker 2: the you know, the allegations of physically hurting your wife
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know what happened, wasn't there,
Speaker 2: but like you apparently allegedly broke your son's arm. Like
Speaker 2: this guy is not the you know, choir boy that
Speaker 2: can can say, well if I wasn't well, I mean
Speaker 2: you've also I think it seems as if you've kind
Speaker 2: of gotten away with your fame and money, with some
Speaker 2: other things criminally that you know other people wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: It was funny to see him do the handcuffs in
Speaker 2: the back after he's quart a touchdown yesterday, and you
Speaker 2: could tell that the camera crew, whoever, if that was
Speaker 2: a CBS or a Fox game, they quit. I don't
Speaker 2: know why, but they didn't. Maybe they just were given
Speaker 2: instruction from the NFL. If he tries to do any
Speaker 2: any stunts with his celebrations, you know, we can't let
Speaker 2: that happen. Which somebody still got it, and it was
Speaker 2: it was it was clever, you know, and he's still
Speaker 2: like insanely good, real quick. Some numbers to throw out
Speaker 2: when it comes to uh, just the NFL yesterday being
Speaker 2: a very unexpectedly quiet day when it comes to passing.
Speaker 2: So you've got Week one NFL passing touchdowns last year
Speaker 2: thirty seven, the year before that fifty one, the year
Speaker 2: before that sixty one, and then today you've got thirty three.
Speaker 2: So unless there's four passing touchdowns tonight, it'll be the lowest.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just touchdowns, by the way, it is
Speaker 2: just passing yards. I mean, if you look at yesterday's performance,
Speaker 2: I mean to a threw it all over the field
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty eight yards, Baker two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty nine yards, men Shoot two hundred and fifty seven,
Speaker 2: Stroud two thirty four, Josh Allen two thirty two, but
Speaker 2: Kaylen Williams ninety three yards, Levis one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: seven yardards, Bo Nicks one hundred and thirty eight yards,
Speaker 2: Herbert one hundred and forty four yards, Kirk Cousins one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five yards. That's rare to see that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the average amount of passing yards for Sunday's football games
Speaker 2: was one hundred and eighty five yards. I doubt that
Speaker 2: that number stays the same. I'm sure it'll grow because
Speaker 2: I think you've got a lot of high powered NFL
Speaker 2: offenses out there, but just a very you know, very
Speaker 2: unusual stat to throw out there. And by the way,
Speaker 2: this is also very rare, and I mean, this is
Speaker 2: just weird. There are only two quarterbacks in modern NFL
Speaker 2: history that have attempted over twenty five passes in their
Speaker 2: debut but threw for less than one hundred yards. Kayleb
Speaker 2: Williams is one who, by the way, you know, just
Speaker 2: was the number one pick in the draft. He threw
Speaker 2: two hundred through twenty five passes and did not have
Speaker 2: more than one hundred yards. The other guy's Desmond Ritter,
Speaker 2: who's now out of the league after two years I
Speaker 2: think two or three was it two or three years
Speaker 2: in the NFL? Probably three. He was with Atlanta twice
Speaker 2: and then he got traded to Arizona and they waived
Speaker 2: him before the Seaton before they finalized their roster. So
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Speaker 2: You guys have to hear the call from the Northern
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Speaker 2: to be the biggest upset we see in college football
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Speaker 2: to that in a lot more. We'll tell you where
Speaker 2: Louisville has ended up in the playoff projections. You know,
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Speaker 2: nine hundred text says Nick. Do you really think that
Speaker 2: if Cincinnati never had a coaching change, Scott Saderfield would
Speaker 2: still be our coach. I mean, it's impossible to know
Speaker 2: the answer to that question, but probably because you know
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, I don't know last year had he
Speaker 2: been the same guy and won seven and maybe got
Speaker 2: an eighth in a bowl game, maybe lost in a
Speaker 2: bowl game, but went I don't know, seven and six overall, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not fireable, and that would have been
Speaker 2: Here's what made Saderfield weird, and it's the right move
Speaker 2: by Josh Hurt. I'll be honest with you, I think
Speaker 2: this is probably what I view from Josh Hurd and
Speaker 2: his brief time as the athletic director here on a
Speaker 2: full time basis, I view how he handled Sadderfield as
Speaker 2: the most impressive thing up to this point. I'm also
Speaker 2: super impressed with what I've seen from Pat Kelsey. And yes,
Speaker 2: that wasn't his first second, maybe not even his third choice,
Speaker 2: but still that's somebody that he had in the mix
Speaker 2: from day one. In fact, that's the first coach he
Speaker 2: talked to in the process of looking for a coach,
Speaker 2: so nobody else was out there trying to hire Pat.
Speaker 2: So if Pat works out here and it's a super
Speaker 2: successful tenure, which I believe it will be then that's
Speaker 2: a great, great thing on Josh, but that we haven't
Speaker 2: got there yet. So I'm happy with it now. But
Speaker 2: you know, we gotta we gotta get results. But he
Speaker 2: did not give Saderfield a raise when Saderfield not only
Speaker 2: wanted one the market for that job as a head coach.
Speaker 2: Nobody goes into their last year of their contract. It
Speaker 2: just does. That just doesn't happen. But Lowell wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: give him a new contract, so he was gonna have
Speaker 2: to do that. Now. What made it even more tricky
Speaker 2: is that sad did have something to bring to the
Speaker 2: table to his boss. Probably his agent did it. I
Speaker 2: don't know who did it. But you had guys on
Speaker 2: Saderfield staff that were going to leave because if their boss, Saderfield,
Speaker 2: doesn't have long term security, they want to go join
Speaker 2: a program where they feel like the coach that's there
Speaker 2: has a long time. You never know, right, because you
Speaker 2: could you could all fall apart in a year or two, right,
Speaker 2: But when it comes down to it, their coaches, I mean,
Speaker 2: and there I think you might have been the strength
Speaker 2: coach initially that was the guy who did in fact
Speaker 2: leave and it's because Sad didn't have a new deal.
Speaker 2: And you know, that's that's a good that's a good
Speaker 2: move to make when it's a game of poker. You
Speaker 2: know you didn't, you know, you called his bluff and
Speaker 2: it led to Sadderfield having his agent be able to
Speaker 2: you know, check the market. And here's what's crazy is that.
Speaker 2: Is it Bill O'Brien or was it chip Kelly? Chip Kelly?
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly wanted to get the hell out of UCLA?
Speaker 2: You remember that, right, Yes, it's how Deseean Foster ended
Speaker 2: up being there. Yeah, merge and now in that chip
Speaker 2: Kelly is the o C at Ohio State. So he
Speaker 2: just wanted out, Well, he wanted the Cincinnati job, and
Speaker 2: Cincinnati turned him away and hired Scott Sanderfield. Think about that.
Speaker 3: That's insane.
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm talking about Saderfield is because you know,
Speaker 2: he was terrible last year at Cincinnati and he lost
Speaker 2: a game where he had a twenty seven to six
Speaker 2: lead in the fourth quarter to Pittsburgh on a last
Speaker 2: second field goal. And that's how he's that's how he
Speaker 2: lost here. He no lead was ever safe under sat
Speaker 2: and also any any coaches that made adjustments he couldn't
Speaker 2: handle that. He just couldn't. So to me, he was
Speaker 2: never gonna give you a fireable season at least, I
Speaker 2: don't think he was. And to be honest, I think
Speaker 2: he know. I think he's a pretty good mind offensively,
Speaker 2: like I think he knows football. I just don't think
Speaker 2: he's he's good enough to be a head coach and
Speaker 2: make adjustments and lead a program of the power for caliber.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, you know, APP State, I know
Speaker 2: they got their brains kicked in this weekend by Clemson,
Speaker 2: But app State, you know they've had two successful coaches
Speaker 2: since he left. And that's not to say he wasn't
Speaker 2: good there. I mean he deserves credit for that. But
Speaker 2: you know, I think to answer your question, one will
Speaker 2: never know, But I think that he probably would have
Speaker 2: been good enough last year to where it would have
Speaker 2: been a really tough decision. Do you start over if
Speaker 2: you're U of L and get rid of a guy
Speaker 2: who you know didn't give you a terrible tenure and
Speaker 2: he left it in a bat I just think it
Speaker 2: would have been one of those things where it would
Speaker 2: have run its course. But then again, some would say
Speaker 2: maybe five years isn't isn't long enough. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't believe that. So overall, we'll never know,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy it worked out the way that it did.
Speaker 2: But I think last year, here's the scenario that I
Speaker 2: could see playing out. Last year. You had a favorable schedule,
Speaker 2: right well, you ended up in games that you still
Speaker 2: could have lost. I mean, Indiana, that's a game that
Speaker 2: was right there till the very end. Georgia Tech. There's
Speaker 2: no way a Scott's satisfood coach team comes from behind
Speaker 2: like they did against Georgia Tech because he was terrible
Speaker 2: at that. N C State a game on the road
Speaker 2: that you know, ugly game, but you found a way
Speaker 2: to kind of grind it out and hold in Virginia
Speaker 2: was weird. I don't know if I feel like I
Speaker 2: can say you should have lost that game, but it
Speaker 2: was close until you really kind of pulled away, created
Speaker 2: some real separation towards the end. So if you end
Speaker 2: up not winning those games and you have a terrible record,
Speaker 2: then at that point it's done. You know you're moving on.
Speaker 2: But again, we'll never know. And look, he wasn't a
Speaker 2: terrible guy. He just to me and I've tried to.
Speaker 2: I understood why at the time, I felt it was
Speaker 2: made clear to me that like the you know, sat
Speaker 2: in his group, his staff and whatnot, they didn't think
Speaker 2: a whole lot of me. And you know, I had
Speaker 2: him on the show before i'd met him. He was
Speaker 2: really kind, but I was very critical of Sadderfield whenever
Speaker 2: he didn't whenever he cried at midfield after Kentucky beat
Speaker 2: their brains in, and he cried about elsdown like I
Speaker 2: was very very outspoken about that. I guess. I know
Speaker 2: others agreed with me, but you know, I'm the one
Speaker 2: who went on the air right after the game ended
Speaker 2: and talked about it, and I was very critical and
Speaker 2: I still stand by everything that I had said, so
Speaker 2: that to me, it wasn't like I felt like, well
Speaker 2: the hell with this guy, he doesn't like me, because again,
Speaker 2: like he wasn't like he was losing sleep over anything
Speaker 2: I said. It was just I think he was mad.
Speaker 2: He was made aware of some things that I'd said
Speaker 2: and he didn't like it. And that's fine because if
Speaker 2: I was in his situation, I probably feel the same way.
Speaker 2: In fact, I probably would be petty because that's just me.
Speaker 2: If I'm being honest with you. But that right there
Speaker 2: kind of just made me feel like this guy doesn't
Speaker 2: have it to lead this program because Louisville football has
Speaker 2: succeeded and it's you know, in a variety of different
Speaker 2: eras with different coaches, and I feel like every one
Speaker 2: of them had a chip on the shoulder. We're going
Speaker 2: to shock some people. We're ready to, you know, like
Speaker 2: we know we're not necessarily getting the same love that
Speaker 2: other schools are getting, but like we're we got a
Speaker 2: chip on our shoulder. And he didn't have that. He
Speaker 2: would go six and six and in a very weird way,
Speaker 2: act as if fans shouldn't be upset, Like he would
Speaker 2: try to tell us that a six and six or
Speaker 2: seven and five seasons should be celebrated around here, and
Speaker 2: like that just ain't us. Man, Like you don't fit,
Speaker 2: And I always felt like it's not the right fit.
Speaker 2: I always felt like the fit was was nonsense because
Speaker 2: like Chris Mack, the only people saying Chris Mack didn't
Speaker 2: fit here. Chris Mack was a rock star here until
Speaker 2: he started not winning as much and then oh it's
Speaker 2: not a good fit. So I've always felt like fit
Speaker 2: was and Honestly, if Satterfield won, we love that he
Speaker 2: threw parties in the locker room after beating FCS teams
Speaker 2: by a touchdown because he won. It's what it really
Speaker 2: comes down to. He didn't win enough. He didn't win
Speaker 2: games that mattered, and he also didn't carry like he
Speaker 2: didn't have that chip on the shoulder, and that, to
Speaker 2: me does check out to where you can say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just not a fit. Louisvill football has not succeeded
Speaker 2: with somebody like that. Louis football has their most success
Speaker 2: whenever you know, the fan base is energized by a
Speaker 2: guy who wants to go show people, hey, Louisville football
Speaker 2: can do something special. And Sadderfield would say, well, we
Speaker 2: did something special. We went We went seven and five
Speaker 2: and the only games we lost to were to SEC
Speaker 2: teams and you know Clemson, Like, I mean, and that's
Speaker 2: just lame. So and then again like he's now four
Speaker 2: and fourteen. I'm sorry, he's coached in fourteen games, so
Speaker 2: we can't be four and fourteen. He's now four and
Speaker 2: ten at Cincinnati's head coach. He's never beat Cincinnati fans
Speaker 2: have never had a home win against an FBS team
Speaker 2: under Scott Cliderfield. He beat EKU last year in their opener.
Speaker 2: He beat Towson last week in their opener in a
Speaker 2: game where they gave up four hundred yards of offense
Speaker 2: to Towson. And then last year, outside of that, ek
Speaker 2: you win, he lost every home game in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: and he lost the teams he did beat. He beat
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on the road, and then he beat Houston on
Speaker 2: the road. And again he's losing games in a way
Speaker 2: that he lost games here. I will say Saturday, for
Speaker 2: them to be up twenty seven to six in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and lose, that's the first time I saw
Speaker 2: Cincinnati fans melting down about him, but also bringing up
Speaker 2: Louisville and saying, Louisville, you were right, Louisville. Everything you
Speaker 2: said was true. I can't believe we did it. And
Speaker 2: here's the thing, they knew it when they did it.
Speaker 2: They just didn't want to accept it. They knew they
Speaker 2: hired a guy that nobody else wanted and they took
Speaker 2: a guy off our hands, because that's what it was.
Speaker 2: So one more thing I want to say about sat.
Speaker 2: He talked a lot about culture and having you know,
Speaker 2: because he did inherit a really bad culture and he
Speaker 2: gave us the old loving them up and they didn't
Speaker 2: need that. And it did work. In year one, they
Speaker 2: were they exceeded expectations. In year one, they weren't special.
Speaker 2: But you know, he did take some Bobby Petrino guys
Speaker 2: to too, hat Well being one of them, JB and
Speaker 2: Hawkins being another. Like they had some success in year
Speaker 2: one and I was energized by it. But you know,
Speaker 2: like he talked a lot about culture and instead of
Speaker 2: winning when it mattered, he would talk about loving them up.
Speaker 2: And you know, and again he's a I think he's
Speaker 2: a good man from what I know, but like he's
Speaker 2: weak as a competitor. The L's down thing, I mean maybe,
Speaker 2: I mean that was many years ago, but like that
Speaker 2: was telling for him to do that midfield after the rival,
Speaker 2: just beat your brains in and you're crying about them
Speaker 2: taunting and celebrating. They should be celebrating. They just beat
Speaker 2: the brains off their rival. He didn't get that. You know,
Speaker 2: he never really embraced doing something special. He wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to say seven and six Manmber winning some
Speaker 2: ball games, We're we're good team. He never really he
Speaker 2: never really wanted to step up and compete. He didn't
Speaker 2: want to, like he got outfited by Mark Stoops. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about the difference in intensity and philosophy between Brahm
Speaker 2: and Sadderfield. But something this weekend. It's not something he did,
Speaker 2: but it speaks to this culture. And it's not a
Speaker 2: culture of guys, you know, being bad kids and having
Speaker 2: bad attitudes and just off the field stuff. But it's
Speaker 2: a culture that is not to me really embrace winning
Speaker 2: at a high level and actually a pomplishing something special.
Speaker 2: Because after they lost, I don't know I everybody saw
Speaker 2: this or not. There is a writer by the name
Speaker 2: of Chris Carpenter who, let's see here, he covers Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: He covers pitt for well, he's got a podcast covering
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Athletics, and he was at the game in the
Speaker 2: press box at Cincinnati and he showed a video of
Speaker 2: this right after the game ended. Pittsburgh, of course, they
Speaker 2: won on the last second field goal, and they've got
Speaker 2: a safety by the name of Javon McIntyre who had
Speaker 2: the ball after the final turnover because it was a
Speaker 2: turnover the end of the game, and you know, he
Speaker 2: kept the ball and the Pitt players were waving goodbye
Speaker 2: to the student section, who you know, I have no
Speaker 2: fault with the students of Cincinnati being you know, students
Speaker 2: and yelling things. But apparently they kept yelling eat it, pit,
Speaker 2: but not saying it right, eat the s H word Pit,
Speaker 2: which again, that's hard. You know that maybe vulgar if
Speaker 2: you've got kids there, but like, I got no problem
Speaker 2: with that. But anyways, after they did that, they're walking
Speaker 2: off the field, the players are, and the equipment managers
Speaker 2: for Sadderfield staff run over and try to keep this
Speaker 2: player from Pitt from leaving the field with the ball.
Speaker 2: Quite literally, No, that's our ball.
Speaker 1: We lost, but we want our ball.
Speaker 2: Back, bunch of losers. Man, Like, is that not the
Speaker 2: lame Again, that's not Saderfield, but that's his culture. We
Speaker 2: got embarrassed, we blew a twenty seven to six lead
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and I'll be we want our
Speaker 2: ball back. We're going home, Like you can't make this
Speaker 2: stuff up, Like that's why he was never good enough
Speaker 2: to be our coach. He did get hired and you know,
Speaker 2: left it better than when he got it. But other
Speaker 2: than that, man, the guy I mean like he just
Speaker 2: he didn't have didn't have it. And there's a few
Speaker 2: things I can think of, but I'm not gonna say him.
Speaker 2: And when I say it, I'm just using it as
Speaker 2: the filler word that's more appropriate for radio. He doesn't
Speaker 2: have a sack, John, he doesn't have a sack. Quick break,
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. Wrap it up.
Speaker 2: We got sacks here, folks, speaking of losers Kentucky. Yet
Speaker 2: on Saturday, they got demolished by South Carolina, who even
Speaker 2: they know is not good. But in the past two weeks,
Speaker 2: we now have numbers that are still a little I
Speaker 2: mean it's early, right, and some of the data that
Speaker 2: you have in just two games is misleading because it's
Speaker 2: a lot of teams playing at least one, sometimes two
Speaker 2: awful opponents like Louisville did. But right now, the worst
Speaker 2: power for offense in college football as far as yards
Speaker 2: per game is Kentucky. Now they only played what three
Speaker 2: and a half quarters against Southern Miss, but still like
Speaker 2: their offense was embarrassing against South Carolina. And you know
Speaker 2: who has the second offense and power for a football
Speaker 2: johnt is it Notre Dame. It's South Carolina Because they
Speaker 2: didn't even have to do anything special to beat Kentucky
Speaker 2: as bad as they did. I mean, they just they
Speaker 2: ran the ball pretty effectively. They took advantage of every
Speaker 2: mistake Kentucky made, and you know, they were just a
Speaker 2: lot more clean. And then you know Stoops going forward
Speaker 2: on fourth down midfield. That was pretty telling when he
Speaker 2: did that in the first half, because that was an
Speaker 2: active desperation that I think, honestly, South Carolina they only
Speaker 2: scored three points off that they didn't end up because
Speaker 2: they took over with great field position and they only
Speaker 2: scored three at that point. But still, I think they
Speaker 2: were able to feed off. I mean, even if you
Speaker 2: don't score, there's still a huge momentum shift if you
Speaker 2: have the nads to go forward and don't get it
Speaker 2: right because you feel like you're cocky, you're doing it
Speaker 2: because you feel like we're not worried about it, especially
Speaker 2: doing it when they when they went for it on
Speaker 2: their side of the field. I mean, that's rare for
Speaker 2: Stoops to do that, and I guess it was pretty telling.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the other terrible offenses after two weeks, Michigan's
Speaker 2: number three, which they got embarrassed against Texas. I mean
Speaker 2: they were they didn't look like they were in the
Speaker 2: same league, and I know they're not technically, but you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a Michigan I mean they're still the
Speaker 3: national champions. Yeah, I mean people still expected them to
Speaker 3: be up there at Ohio State in Oregon and maybe
Speaker 3: even USC now depending on how good USC ends up being.
Speaker 3: But I don't think Michigan is going to be that.
Speaker 3: I mean, they'll be fine, but for the Michigan standard,
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to live up to it
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, they've played two SCCS two I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: two ACC teams, meaning the you know, the Florida State's
Speaker 2: played Boston College and George Tech loss to both. But
Speaker 2: against those two teams, Florida State is still in the
Speaker 2: bottom five. They're they're number five, they have the fifth
Speaker 2: worst offense in college football after two games. Florida State
Speaker 2: does a preseason top ten team, and then Cal is
Speaker 2: at number six. And that's wild because they just pulled
Speaker 2: off an upset against Auburn, which, by the way, I
Speaker 2: want to get to that a little bit later on.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to make the claim that
Speaker 2: the SEC is overrated per se. And I'm not going
Speaker 2: to try to make the claim that it's not the
Speaker 2: best league at the top, because I think right now
Speaker 2: you got Georgia, Texas, heck maybe maybe Ole Miss or
Speaker 2: three of the best teams and it's not close because
Speaker 2: you know the Big ten with Michigan, they got embarrassed Oregon.
Speaker 2: Oregon should could arguably be oh and two right now,
Speaker 2: Like they nearly lost to what Idaho State or so I.
Speaker 3: Know in week one, and then they had trouble with
Speaker 3: Yeersey State this past week.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's some underperforming teams early on, and
Speaker 2: it is early maybe you know they figure it out
Speaker 2: and those close wins don't look that bad down the line.
Speaker 2: But there has been some surprises. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to the SEC, I mean, who's who do you feel
Speaker 2: like is great outside of Georgia, Texas, Ole Miss, and
Speaker 2: I guess we can throw in Bama, but let's not
Speaker 2: forget the fact that they were in a close game
Speaker 2: until the fourth quarter when they finally pulled away. So anyways,
Speaker 2: there's a lot more I want to get to in
Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour when it comes to just some
Speaker 2: takeaways and just some early observations including the the Notre
Speaker 2: Dame upset, the call from the Northern Illinois radio guy.
Speaker 2: I've been mentioning that I've yet to play it for
Speaker 2: you guys, got to hear it, and something else we
Speaker 2: haven't really gotten into, but luckily we got another hour
Speaker 2: to do. So. Is Colorado getting embarrassed by Nebraska? And look,
Speaker 2: it's quite clear what Dion Sanders is doing at Colorado,
Speaker 2: what his motivation is, what you know, like it's becoming
Speaker 2: more and more evident the more they hit adversity and
Speaker 2: you kind of see how how people act, and I
Speaker 2: love it. I mean, I don't know how d I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think Dion knows how to be humble. I mean,
Speaker 2: he'll if he walks away or finds an exit strategy
Speaker 2: after this year, he'll never claim that it was because
Speaker 2: he wasn't a good coach. I mean, that just won't.
Speaker 2: That's not possible for him to do. But it's I
Speaker 2: think it's going to end in hilarious fashion. I really do.
Speaker 2: And I think the signs of that have been right
Speaker 2: in front of everybody. But you know, many people for
Speaker 2: reasons I don't really understand, just refuse to acknowledge that,
Speaker 2: and then back to the NFL we will go. Because
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's debut as a broadcaster. I'm sure he'll get
Speaker 2: more and more comfortable, but kind of nice to see
Speaker 2: him suck at something because that guy's good at everything, right,
Speaker 2: He's handsome. He could have left the booth yesterday and
Speaker 2: went down there and been ten times better than that
Speaker 2: bum that the Browns roll out there at quarterback. But
Speaker 2: as as an analyst, at least right now, we can
Speaker 2: say that he sucks. And look, I suck at a
Speaker 2: lot of things. We all probably suck at a lot
Speaker 2: of things. I'm not sure Brady has ever shown as
Speaker 2: something that he's terrible at until yesterday. And again I'm
Speaker 2: not even being a hater, like wouldn't be a shock
Speaker 2: er if he gets more comfortable, But I will say this,
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that kind of wants him
Speaker 2: to tap out, have a ceiling in the broadcasting game,
Speaker 2: as like being mid at best, because for my own insecurities,
Speaker 2: you can't just talk and be great at something, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's something that goes into broadcasting that you know is
Speaker 2: more than just using the English language. You have to
Speaker 2: have a cadence. You have to not just say something,
Speaker 2: you have to say it with them, you know, you
Speaker 2: have to emphasize certain things and be, you know, ready
Speaker 2: to jump in whenever your partner gets done talking. And
Speaker 2: like again, he'll get used to it. He's never done
Speaker 2: it before. But like again, it's my own insecurity. I
Speaker 2: people just think anybody can do this, and I guess
Speaker 2: technically you probably can, but like you know, doing it, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: let me live in my own world where I feel
Speaker 2: like I've actually got to announce of talent. Can we please
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