1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,799 Speaker 1: So weird thing is Jesus, what do you been? Great 2 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:10,279 linebacker just came up in this conversation with Zach Abraham 3 00:00:10,279 --> 00:00:13,359 that then went into the financial and faith state of 4 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:16,440 the nation, and then went into what you can get 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,320 away with big finance, and then went into how much 6 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:22,719 money buys you protection From a guy who knows such things, 7 00:00:23,559 --> 00:00:27,039 Zach Abraham, Chief Investmenticer Bulwark Capital Management joins this courtesy 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,199 of God Almighty. 9 00:00:30,399 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: But Todd Herman show is one percent disapproved by big 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:42,079 pharma technocrats and tyranns everywhere from the high mountains of 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,200 Free America. Here's the Emerald City exime. 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made, 13 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:55,719 and these are the times through which God has decided 14 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,600 we shall live. Joining me is Zach Abraham, Chief and 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,759 the best officer Bulwark Capital Man your risk podcast dot com. Brother, 16 00:01:01,799 --> 00:01:02,240 Good to have. 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: You here, Great to be here. 18 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: Man. 19 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:08,239 Speaker 1: You look a glow your Seahawks one and you're you're 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,400 the guy who taught me about their Christian faith. And 21 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:13,480 then you told me something beforehand that apparently their offensive 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,079 coordinator has taken Jesus down to Las Vegas, Nevada. 23 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's really it's really cool. 24 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: And one of the things that one of the things 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,359 I caught onto it is I know, I know some 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,159 I know some folks aligned with the with the team there, 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,959 and so I kind of had some insight to that. 28 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:35,359 Speaker 3: But also I remember I had a little bit of an. 29 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: Intro this in my high school in my high school 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,040 football days. So I had a great high school football 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,760 coach that was a man of God. And then the 32 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:46,519 college team I went to was that probably times two. 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,599 And I'm not gonna lie to you, kind of threw 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,519 me off a little bit because I was a linebacker, 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,959 really intense, yeah, a violent position, yep. And you don't 36 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:01,920 you don't tip. For instance, I didn't listen to praise 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,480 and worship before games. 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,359 Speaker 1: Right, right. 39 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: And what I learned through that program and what I've 40 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:11,520 learned through life, is that Jesus Christ would have been 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,439 the most amazing football player you'd ever seen, right, And 42 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:19,759 the intensity, the dedication to the cause, the the the 43 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:25,520 total the total sellout, right, the total commitment and then 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,400 just and also the total commitment to the mission. Meaning 45 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,599 I'm not interested on how I get into the town. Actually, 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,560 I prefer to ride in on a donkey because I 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,599 don't do things your way right, mission over, mission over nonsense, 48 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:45,680 mission focus, mission right, and and realizing that and and 49 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:49,520 part of that is I also can knock the living 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,280 stuffing out of a guy and help him up and 51 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,159 not swear at him and tell him you're nothing right 52 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:58,560 and and anyway, So just looking at that and then 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,280 also seeing that when you get a group of men 54 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:06,000 that put ego behind them, and for a group of 55 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,000 professional athletes, alpha males, you don't get me. If they're 56 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:13,039 sitting up there giving personal testimonies in the locker room. 57 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: They've put ego behind them. 58 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Right. 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,039 Speaker 5: When you see a group of men come together under 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,080 the Christ banner that put an ego behind them, don't 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,240 get in their way, man, don't get in their way. 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,520 And it's just powerful. I've been on teams that have 63 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:29,759 done that. I've been on teams that haven't, and you 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,560 could see it. And that's why halfway through the season, 65 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,960 I was sitting there going watch out, man, here they come. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:34,479 Speaker 3: YEA. 67 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: I saw the statements afterwards, and it played some of 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,240 them on the air of guys thanking Jesus, and that 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,960 the season was defined by a recommitment to Christ. And 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 then this guy I know his name, but the offensive 71 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:50,520 coordinator exporting that culture down to Las Vegas. God's on 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,800 the march with young men. And one of the things 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,439 we've talked about before, it's an enduring topic for me, 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,719 is the nature of godly ambition for young man. We 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,000 talked about that, but you're talking about almost godly aggression. 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,599 And there's a frustration some young men have with the 77 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,759 idea that Jesus is a soft soap, you know, soft boy, 78 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:18,040 soy boy, I've heard that. And they want Jesus right, 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,759 They want Jesus to be the warrior Jesus. But you 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 think you can be a hard man when called for 81 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:26,199 and also be a man of God. 82 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: More important, I think one is I think those two 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,120 things are the same that I to live. We put 84 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:39,959 Jesus in a really strange box if you go look 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,839 at the original translations to so much of what he did. 86 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:45,560 For instance, when he flipped some people may not like this, 87 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:47,959 but when he flipped over the tables of the money changers, 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,639 he called them the equivalent of a brute of vipers, 89 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,519 which at that time was a swear word, right. 90 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:55,959 Speaker 3: Meaning what does that tell you? Again? 91 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:58,879 Speaker 5: It means that already if he's the son of God. 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,480 There's something different about the ethos that he's committed to 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,000 or the mission that he's committed to. It's a little 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 different than the modern understanding. Right if you go look 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 at you know, some of the some of the rebuke, 96 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:14,000 I mean, go look at what he put up with 97 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,120 and crucifixion. 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: No, right, No one understands that. Very few people understand 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,160 that there's not a human being alive who could do that. 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: No. 101 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 5: And they've literally had doctors go back and say this 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,680 this was a based off of the medical records and 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,800 the recording of things at the time. They were like, 104 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,800 this was a superhuman feat and we're not giving him 105 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:38,120 credit that is undue him. We're reading the records as 106 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:41,160 recorded by the Romans that had no incentive to build 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,720 up write his reputation. They didn't want to martyr him, right, right, 108 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,160 so you know they've got no incentive to fluff up 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,759 his performance in that situation. 110 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and well to that cracial component, this is a 111 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,560 thing that people don't get, is Okay, let's say that 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,000 Let's say you're someone you've been a prisoner of war, 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,319 so you've been through the worst of the worst, and 114 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,879 like Okay, well I've done this. This is really gonna hurt, 115 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,199 and I'll make it through it. Okay. But add on 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,639 top of that the cup of wrath, cups of wrath 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,680 from God for every sin ever committed or that ever 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,079 would be committed. And you are a perfect, blameless, innocent 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,279 man and you agree to become sin. Can you imagine 120 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:22,040 the pain of that? And know only gets your dad 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,800 doing it too. No human can survive that. 122 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: Jesus was the only one and he knew it was coming. 123 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:30,759 Speaker 5: You think that guy would have had a problem coming 124 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,079 full speed on a blitz. 125 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: Not a chance. Not a chance. 126 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 5: And my college football coaching, to some degree, might even 127 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,199 my high school football coach, God bless him. 128 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:45,519 Speaker 3: They use that as an incentive. 129 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: And I remember at times just being like, what what 130 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:49,959 if I think like that, I'm not going to play 131 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:50,399 as well? 132 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:52,399 Speaker 3: Not true? Not true. 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 5: And so it's the what young men are tripping over 134 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,439 right now is the warrior ethos has been completely stripped 135 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:03,720 out of society. And it's no question that it's been 136 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,199 stripped out of society right alongside of God. Because in 137 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:09,639 order to do the things that society wants to do, 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,959 and this culture wants to do you have to have 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 no oversight. You've got to get rid of the sheep dogs, right, 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,120 whether they're godly sheep dogs or whether they're not even godly. 141 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:21,040 But there are men that know the difference between right 142 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:23,000 and wrong and are going to stand up for good 143 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:29,839 things right, and I you strip Christ out of a culture. 144 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:31,959 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised that men feel that way. 145 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised the young boys feel purposeful, purposeless and 146 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:37,480 listless and all that kind of stuff because they don't 147 00:07:37,519 --> 00:07:38,000 have a mission. 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. So ZECH will continue to talk about this in 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,240 just a second. 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Tell them you're part of the 187 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:46,279 Todd Hermanshow Family renew r E n u e dot Healthcare. 188 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,720 So let me ask you this, how do you deal 189 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:50,279 with young men then when they have a when they 190 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,399 have an emotional blowout, and then they they and they 191 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:57,759 contend that something's not fairst that they have an emotional blowout, 192 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,120 and then they come to you and say, well, Jesus 193 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:05,159 overturn the tables Temple, because I've heard this. I've heard this. 194 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,120 I've been talking to young guys, you know, for now, 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,000 for three or four years, I have been blessed to work 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,159 in the youth ministry, and from time to time we've 197 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:14,480 never had a blow up there, praise God. But there's 198 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:16,759 been times where I've been counseling kids who end up 199 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,600 on probation do some time in juvie, go to a 200 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:23,039 youth challenge or something, and you know they're gone for 201 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,679 six months, And I'll sit there and say with them, 202 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:27,440 you know, how could you have done it differently? And 203 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,679 a lot of them will say, you know what, I 204 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:30,720 just should have paid attention to Jesus. I should have 205 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:34,519 walked away, I should have turned the other cheek. And 206 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,240 some of them will say, yeah, but you know what, Todd, 207 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,320 it was so unfair. Plus, Jesus overturned the tables in 208 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,879 the temple, and you guys talk about that, So that's 209 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:43,039 what I did. It was unfair, and I did what 210 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:45,039 Jesus did. So how do you answer something like that? 211 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: Well, Jesus didn't punch a. 212 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:51,519 Speaker 1: Cop, right, right, I didn't touch a centurion. 213 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: Centurion right, And I would be willing to bet now 214 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,399 I don't know, but i'd be willing to bet the 215 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,600 reason you got arrested is not be because you were 216 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:03,039 overturning the table of a false prophet that was trying 217 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:04,159 to take tide money from people. 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: Right. 219 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,759 Speaker 5: So now, perhaps I'm wrong, right, but probably not right. 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,159 Did you throw a brick through an arcade window? Hey, 221 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:14,480 that doesn't country. 222 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Did you did you not tell a teacher off? Did 223 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:18,159 you push a teacher? 224 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:19,279 Speaker 2: Right? 225 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: And one of the things we said, let me check 226 00:11:21,159 --> 00:11:25,320 you in this is is okay? Who owns things? 227 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 228 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: Who's an authority? I was just gonna say, who's an authority? 229 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Who owns? 230 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: The Bible has very clear. 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,399 Speaker 5: Instructions about those in authority and how it's supposed to 232 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:35,919 adhere to that. 233 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: Right, who owns everything? Because Jesus God has this crazy 234 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,480 idea that he owns all the stuff. Yea friend, and 235 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,120 he owns all the stuff. But you were right that 236 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,320 was this financial thing as well, because people, a lot 237 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:51,679 of people who are casual quote Christians don't understand the 238 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:54,480 nature of what Jesus was seeing that that people were 239 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:59,200 walking distances we can't relate to, you know, I mean, 240 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,279 we live in a societ where it's like, wait a minute, 241 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,759 the Crispy Kream, I gotta walk. I mean, I'm I'm 242 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,080 four out here by the bus stop. And you know 243 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,960 the cheesecake factory. It used to be you could park 244 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,559 at the cheesecake factory. You know, you got to kick 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,879 your breast from walking in and so. But you had 246 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:19,519 people walking months yea to go to the temple, and 247 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,960 they'd show up with a flawless goat, you know, and 248 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,840 this is a lamb, and and this is the pick 249 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 of the litter, it's the firstborn. It's flawless, and they 250 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:29,840 take it in in some crepus. Yeah, you know, it's 251 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,919 kind of flawless. I don't like the look of it. Stinks. 252 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,879 You got to buy one of the temple lambs, you know, 253 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:37,799 you can take this one home, but you got and 254 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:40,120 then they're charging him them for this. Oh that bird. Yeah, 255 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,000 I don't like to look at that bird. That's what 256 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,039 Jesus saw. So he's coming in saying, you're utterly corrupt, 257 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,600 and you're selling access to my father's house and it's 258 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,679 not yours to sell. That's what he saw. 259 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: Now, what was the name of the God or the 260 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:00,159 It was a biblical version of the the Catholic Church. 261 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: They sold uh oh, were there's. 262 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: A time of their selling. Yeah, they were selling indulgences. 263 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,919 Speaker 3: Indulgences right, So there's the first form of indulgences. 264 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Right. There was some corrupt priests. You're like, you know, 265 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,279 get your gets your eternal life now right here on 266 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,960 the fifty percent office. Well, we had Paula White the 267 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,039 president's so called faith advisor make an announcement that for 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,960 Easter she had achieved a special deal with God. It 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,440 was like seven times a blessing, but you got to 270 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,559 give now. So that's when they did the call down, 271 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,480 you know, with the distributor called down. Okay, guys, we 272 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,960 got to move some units. We got some blessing stocked 273 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:35,279 up and uh over inventory of them in their long 274 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,840 time at age Invatory got to get these and got 275 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,679 the balance sheet. We got to move some blessings. 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 5: Hey, I got a perfect example. Recently heard one talk 277 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,279 to a client. They're involved in a Bible study. The 278 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 head of the Bible study is also a financial guy. 279 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,559 Started using financial principles to back up why they should invest. 280 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: With him and know how to do things financially. 281 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just said to him, I go, listen, 282 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 I go, that guy's completely full of it. And I go, 283 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,000 I know that for a fact, because God doesn't give 284 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,320 you stock tips. And I know because I've tried right 285 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:12,360 like meaning and just I'm sorry, but that's just false doctrine. 286 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,919 Speaker 3: That's just false doctrine. 287 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,879 Speaker 5: And I and I tell clients that hey, becoming a 288 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:20,639 Bullwark client because I'm managing your money doesn't guarantee as 289 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:24,000 a better results doesn't. What it does mean is that 290 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:26,440 somebody that's aligned with your values and your principles is 291 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,519 going to be overseeing your money. 292 00:14:27,639 --> 00:14:27,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 293 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: What it does mean the money that you pay, pay 294 00:14:30,159 --> 00:14:32,799 them or pay me is not going to go to 295 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:35,320 fun things that you don't like or that are against 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,799 the interests to you and your family. But I wish 297 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,840 I could tell you me being a Christian guarantees you 298 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,519 better performance. 299 00:14:40,519 --> 00:14:41,879 Speaker 3: But it does not. It does not. 300 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, and hey, listen to people kind of insinuate that 301 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,960 you're just like, hey, man, you that might win you 302 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,639 some business. Good on you because you got a debt 303 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:54,720 on the backside of that that I want no part of. 304 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Well that's okay. So speaking of the dead of the 305 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,639 backside of things, you probably maybe try not to pay 306 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:03,879 attention to the Epstein stuff. You're plenty busy because of 307 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:05,519 what I do, I have to pay attention to it. 308 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:11,240 And the more every time something comes out, it looks 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 worse for the authorities every single time. Now we learn 310 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:18,200 that the FBI were the ones who ultimately caused the 311 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:21,639 erasure of the only video footage that existed of the 312 00:15:21,639 --> 00:15:24,399 cell and they were warned if you do that, you 313 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:27,799 will erase the footage. Okay, well we're gonna do that. 314 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:30,519 And I'm looking at the money and power that surrounds 315 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:32,679 these guys. Just now we get six names and then 316 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,519 a seventh. And this seventh is really close to President Trump. 317 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,000 He had a lot more interactions with Epstein than not. Now, 318 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,759 I look at this as many things. A. It's a 319 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:43,159 massive sin problem. B. It looks like the Bayal's and 320 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,080 the Molochs. It's all those things. But see it speaks 321 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,519 to the state of this nation in terms of the 322 00:15:49,559 --> 00:15:53,080 faith and the finance of America that I'm sorry, Jeff 323 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:59,639 Epstein bought protection. Yeah, and okay, so help me understand 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,279 as a financial dude, who steward's my money and money 325 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:05,840 of a lot of my friends, a lot of listeners. 326 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,080 How is it just not common knowledge? Or is it 327 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,279 or maybe I'm wrong? Well, let me ask it this way. 328 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,559 How much money buys you protection in your mind from 329 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,799 from even investigations like this? Are we talking hundreds of billions? 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,559 What what buys that? 331 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: Typically? Five to ten? 332 00:16:28,039 --> 00:16:30,759 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you can, you can you can 333 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:32,639 move a lot of you can know a lot of 334 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:37,240 test piece million, million, ten million, Oh yeah, you can own. 335 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,240 I mean they have some experience, you know that that 336 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,840 do have experience in in in those circles, and it 337 00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:48,240 takes surprisingly little. And listen, the what I'm saying right 338 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,080 now is the very reason that you have not had 339 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,559 the Epstein files released now by two administrations. That's because 340 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,000 everybody's hands. 341 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:57,919 Speaker 3: Dirt are dirty. Yeah, if you and I both know, 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,440 it would have been put out by Biden. 343 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 5: Right, He's probably the only guy in there that isn't 344 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,240 really incriminated, well. 345 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: Because he didn't know he was there. And why send 346 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,880 anything to Biden? Yea, because he's not the one receiving right, right, 347 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,599 So he's not the one who really knows he's there. 348 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 5: But well, the other, the other, the other, the other 349 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,640 side to it too though when you look at it, 350 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,519 and I haven't heard anybody talk to this. Epstein had 351 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:28,480 no use for Trump unless Trump got him access to 352 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:31,960 somebody else. Trump was just a businessman. Epstein wasn't trying 353 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,680 to He wanted money from businessman. He wanted to be 354 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,319 able to pinch him for money, I think, but his 355 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,960 game was playing heads of state and intelligence officers and 356 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,559 things like that. He probably just saw Trump as a 357 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:45,920 way to get introduced to people that he wanted to 358 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,279 get at. 359 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: But I'm looking at this from a biblical perspective. And 360 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 here's one of my predicates in this. If you read 361 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,680 the Bible, you have no business being surprised by Jeff Epstein. No, 362 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,599 and none of this is new. And how long finance 363 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,279 been this way? You? I mean, you studied history in college, 364 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,720 you live finance. Has there ever been a time where 365 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:10,160 money didn't do this for people because of our sin problem? No? 366 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 5: But it's gotten decidedly, It's gotten decidedly more corrupt and 367 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,440 nasty in the last forty years, last year meaning the 368 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:20,440 last forty years specifically, and I think it's gotten even 369 00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:24,960 worse with each year. Meaning even being inside the industry, 370 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,920 if you used to be a heavyweight in this business, 371 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:32,240 people knew it, but everything you did was not trying 372 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:33,920 to reflect that. Right. 373 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,799 Speaker 3: There was there was a bit of I don't know, 374 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,759 call it culture. 375 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:41,519 Speaker 5: There was a bit of restraint, like it wasn't nearly 376 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:45,440 as ghost as it is now. And now there's this attitude, 377 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:49,440 especially amongst the younger crowd. And I'm saying, like thirty 378 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,480 to forty five in the investment industry that are very successful. 379 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,519 Speaker 3: There's kind of this attitude. 380 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 5: That we can do whatever we want and that your 381 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:00,519 rules and your policies don't apply to us. Where if 382 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,200 you go back to the eighties and the seventies, the 383 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,920 the guys back then. First of all, there wasn't as 384 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,880 much money in the industry as there is now, so 385 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,119 there weren't as many guys making that kind of money. 386 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,839 But they were more interested in being seen as kind 387 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:16,640 of the head of state type figure, right, the statesman, 388 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:20,880 and there and and there was more honor in the industry. 389 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,559 Speaker 3: It's weird to say it was still crooked. 390 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,079 Speaker 5: There's still guys that are greedy, but it's just turned 391 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,799 into a heathenistic you know, I say all the time, 392 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:32,880 my dream, and I think I told you this my dream. 393 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,559 Speaker 3: H When we first got married, I had two big goals. 394 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: It was to get a scholarship to Wharton, to their 395 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:42,400 to their NBA program, and then go to work on 396 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,000 Wall Street. I'll never forget when the dean of my 397 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,960 business school called me into his office, he was a 398 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,599 PhD from Wharton, told me he was impressed with my 399 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,000 work and wanted to sponsor me for the PhD. Sponsorship 400 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:57,880 so if you're a former PhD, you can appoint a 401 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,920 kid kind of like you appoint him to like a 402 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,480 military academy. Yeah, and he said he wanted to make 403 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:05,759 me his appointment to the Wharton School of Business. I 404 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:08,279 went home, celebrated my wife that night. Woke up the 405 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:10,599 next morning and I was not leading a christ I 406 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,599 was a Christian, but God was not leading me. 407 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:15,079 Speaker 3: Woke up the next morning with this feeling, and I 408 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:15,599 didn't know why. 409 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,079 Speaker 5: I just went I'm not supposed to I'm not supposed 410 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,960 to go Wow. And I look back on it now, 411 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,079 and I had know the guy thought I was nuts. 412 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: I thought I was nuts. It was the goal. It 413 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,640 was the whole reason why I went back to school. 414 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,759 And I look back on. 415 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: It now and had I gone into had I gone 416 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,119 into Wall Street at that time, I wouldn't be married today. 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: I don't think so. It wouldn't. 418 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been able to I wouldn't be able 419 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240 to handle what I'm I wouldn't be able to handle 420 00:20:43,279 --> 00:20:45,720 what I handle now unless. 421 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,039 Speaker 3: I was tight with Jesus. I just couldn't. I couldn't have. 422 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:49,079 It would have ritten me apart. 423 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,559 Speaker 1: I could relate to that in a way, not the 424 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:53,920 same path, but there was an opportunity. I had to 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,759 go work in London and Microsoft wanted me to go 426 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,839 over and take over the and then sales office for advertising, 427 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,400 and then it would have been Europe. It would have 428 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,279 been all these things. And they wanted me to get 429 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:08,960 my MBA and they were going to pay for that, 430 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,359 and like, oh gosh, I didn't even finish one year 431 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,240 of college. I said, we've got so many connections we 432 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:16,240 can handle that. You know, you can clap and we'll 433 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,119 pay for that and we'll get you going to get 434 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,640 your MBA. And you know, I talked to my wife 435 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,960 about that, and well, gosh, we can't move our daughter. 436 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,640 Well what if I spend half time over there? And 437 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:27,519 I look at families who did that, and I can 438 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:33,960 count I think, probably one hundred percent divorce rate from 439 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720 people who yeah. 440 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't mean it's the wrong thing to do. 441 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,079 Speaker 1: But I just know for me, divorce was the wrong 442 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,519 time to do ninety nine percent of the time. 443 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah right, oh yeah, yeah yeah. 444 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,839 Speaker 5: But I mean I meant the job part of it, right, 445 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,039 like meaning there's there's a there. I know guys who 446 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:50,240 have gone to work on Wall Street and been moral 447 00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:53,559 good men. I just know being fully honest at that 448 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,000 point in my life. Had I had that kind of 449 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,319 success at that age, it just wouldn't have been good. 450 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: It's very difficult when you're in this circles to stay 451 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,039 away from that. Do you know who David Sachs is 452 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:04,880 if you ever met him? I mean, you guys kind 453 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,039 of have like business in common in a way. I mean, 454 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,960 I know, I know David Sachs. I mean I don't 455 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,880 want to say way up there, but more like way 456 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,440 out there. 457 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's He's an interesting character, for sure. I think 458 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,480 that's a nice way to put it. Yeah, I do 459 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,000 have a patient I do have a patience for he 460 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,559 and that. 461 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,319 Speaker 3: Group that he's a part of, that all in pod. 462 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, because they have been open to challenging existing ideas. 463 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,920 They have come to recognize the insanity of what modern 464 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Wokism is and things of that nature. Having said that, 465 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,119 I don't think they're really aligned with guys like you 466 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,519 and I. 467 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, they don't know the Lord. No. I hear 468 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920 Peter Thiel talking about the Bible as if it's a 469 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,359 steady guide to finance. 470 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:48,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 471 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,599 Speaker 1: Right, So, but I wanted to run this by this 472 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,319 is David Sachs talking about The New York Times. The 473 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:55,119 New York Times, they've run a series of articles about 474 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,200 jeff Epstein. They took a sudden interest in this. I 475 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,720 don't know why. It's the strangest thing I interested in this. 476 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,200 Jeffrey Epstein's money mingled with Silicon Valley startups and so, yeah, 477 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,519 that's true, that happens. And we ran an audio clip 478 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,240 or video clip the other day, I think it earlier 479 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:13,319 today of a woman who's British and she's a lady 480 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:15,920 winsor something or other. She says, if you weren't invited 481 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,559 to those parties, it was an insult. So people wanted 482 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:21,119 to listen to David Sachs, and let's talk about this 483 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,799 dynamic of I think it's seeking the approval of man. 484 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,680 But this is why he says, The New York Times 485 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,160 protect people like Reid Hoffman. 486 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 6: Brad, you speak about the corruption of power centers. I 487 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:32,480 think a major one has to be The New York Times. 488 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:35,599 The number one person in the Epstein files from Silicon Valley, 489 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:39,160 which is Reid Hoffman mentioned twenty six hundred times, had 490 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,880 a multi year relationship with Epstein. They call each other 491 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:45,920 very good friends. They did deals together. Reid stayed at 492 00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:48,920 the Trifecta, which is not just the island, but the 493 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,599 townhouse and the New Mexico Ranch. And if you're gonna 494 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680 write about Silicon Valley, read was the one who introduced 495 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,119 Epstein to Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg 496 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:03,119 organized that famous dinner. How can you not mention that 497 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:06,759 as the root of Epstein's involved in a Silicon Valley 498 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,559 And yet we just gets a mention in one sentence 499 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:11,200 of that article, along with several other people. 500 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 501 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,559 Speaker 6: I mean, the New York Times clearly has a list 502 00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,759 of people they consider approved targets. They're all right coded 503 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,359 people like Elon or Peter Thiel and even Jake al 504 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,319 because of his association with US I guess, and they 505 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,920 become the targets. But the people who've donated one hundreds 506 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,480 of millions of dollars to the Democrat Party and have 507 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,359 paid for dirty tricks against Trump, they basically are spared. 508 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 7: Honestly, this is just emblematic of the whole institutional rot 509 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:39,960 and the distrust in the country. 510 00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Right They're part of the cabal. 511 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,599 Speaker 7: It's part of the institutions that people are losing faith, 512 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,839 and you know, Epstein was a scumbag, And the fact 513 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:49,799 of the matter is we're not seeing equal play on 514 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:50,440 both sides. 515 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,279 Speaker 1: So that's all fair and good. We get that that 516 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:54,759 they're part of the that they have a code, et cetera. 517 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,000 But I wanted to ask you, Zach, is it is 518 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,319 it really unspoken? Or do people in the finance industry 519 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,720 speak of the codes and who's gets targeted and who doesn't, 520 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,039 or do they just whisper about it and pretend it's 521 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:08,680 not a rule. 522 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,759 Speaker 5: I think you probably know this. It's a little bit, 523 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,720 you know, it's a little more clever than that, I think, 524 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,160 meaning they know who plays ball, and. 525 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: They know who it's. You know, it's it's it's not unlike. 526 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 5: It's not unlike a really big law firm probably at 527 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,400 this point, or any when you when you get a 528 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,480 bunch of men around that are not constrained with financial limits, okay, 529 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,480 and whenever you give a man who is not rooted 530 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,519 in well, even when you give men rooted in god, 531 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,200 sometimes environments where they don't have any financial limits, it 532 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,400 doesn't tend to be good for them, right, And so 533 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:50,839 they start doing things and then usually they're the guys 534 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,799 at the heap that have the most money. Well what 535 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,440 do men typically worship money? So they'll do anything to 536 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,119 be a part of that group, right, And it's just 537 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,960 like it's just it's like selling out, like you know, 538 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,680 you know, but there is very much this idea of well, dude, 539 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,680 he can do whatever he wants. 540 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,079 Speaker 3: Don't say anything. He's a billionaire, you know what I mean. 541 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:12,839 Speaker 5: And I know you've heard that, and people are like, 542 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,599 people can't believe that. I am telling you right now, 543 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,079 there are a bunch of people that are otherwise good 544 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:25,720 people that are disgusted by pedophilia, that knew about these 545 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,799 things going on and still have said nothing. I guarantee 546 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,240 you there's tons right that would never have anything to 547 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:37,559 do with it, to find it deplorable. Why money money, 548 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:42,200 And what they don't understand is taking the money and 549 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,119 being silent is just as bad as the sin itself. Right, 550 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,599 you might as well be abusing the girl yourself. 551 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yes, and this dynamic is very minor 552 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:59,880 compared to this clearly working in Hollywood's I never saw 553 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,440 pedophile parties. I've talked about this, you know what became. 554 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:05,920 I'm sure after I left sex and cocaine parties. I'm 555 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,079 sure that happens. DC. I saw all sorts of wickedness. 556 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,920 Clearly we've talked about that. This is a minor instance 557 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,880 to it, but it speaks to this dynamic you're talking 558 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,480 about of oh, but don't say anything, Yeah, like don't 559 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,200 And what wait is Jeff Epstein? Did he just get 560 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,759 out of that car with two fifteen girls? Listen? Just 561 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,680 come in. Just it'ssist Jeff. So, I'm in a meeting 562 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:35,000 at a big famous venture capital funds and it was 563 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,599 our like third meeting pitching the company. Now we're down 564 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,519 into the they're really dummy checking our finances, you know. 565 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,480 I mean everyone understands they're just projections, but they're doing 566 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640 the dummy checking, and they're checking our assumptions. Do I 567 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:47,640 understand them as a CEO? Or did I just have 568 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:49,000 some math guy do it for me? You know that 569 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:52,000 you know that game? Yeah, And we got into a 570 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,519 pretty interesting discussion about the strategy. But why are you 571 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,000 using this affiliate model and why ISPs and why don't 572 00:27:58,039 --> 00:27:59,640 you just ask us for more money and become a 573 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,559 consumer brand, And so we're talking about this, Well, it's 574 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,400 all these capabilities at ICP gives us to target ads 575 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000 and to create markets and to mimic radio and to 576 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,839 have these eighty i's and so it was kind of 577 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,119 an interesting discussion for these guys where they're leaning forward. 578 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,920 The departner who made the decision is doing this, and 579 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,920 I knew he was the decision maker. He's in the meeting. 580 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,599 We're starting to fall asleep, like literally falling asleep, and 581 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,319 at one point I got frustrated. I looked at him. 582 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:27,880 I said, should I wait while you have your nap? 583 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,359 And the room was like, oh, he just said that 584 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:40,759 to Alan. Now, a lot of ways that can end, right, right, 585 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:43,839 So there were two ways this could have gone. And 586 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,319 I'm gonna make you wait. This is what I do. 587 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,680 This is what I make people wait for. We're doing 588 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,279 a really cool program with Tim Krukshank, the founder and 589 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,960 CEO bone Frog Coffee. It's the Coffee Crush Giveaway. So 590 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,599 here's how this works is everybody has an opportunity to 591 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,240 win one of three bone Frog Coffee gift cards. 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See that's why I 612 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,839 make people Wait. I was just saying in this Venture 613 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,079 Capitol meeting, there were two possible ways this could have gone. 614 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,680 After I called the guy out on a taking a nap. 615 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880 I called the galut your napping. Should I wait while 616 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,440 you have your nap? 617 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: No? 618 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: Instead, his humanity prevailed and he said, you know what, 619 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:25,599 let me apologize to you. I just had spinal surgery 620 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,680 and I'm not a ton of drugs, and I really 621 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,039 am interested in what you're saying. I'm really having trouble saying. 622 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440 It's not you, it's the drugs. I'm glad my team 623 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,640 is here. I really apology. Would you like to wait 624 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,640 until him better off? And he goes, why don't we 625 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,480 do this? Why don't we take a break, go out 626 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:47,160 to the sun deck. Let me get some sun and 627 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,960 some coffee and come back and reapproach this, and I'll 628 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,519 make sure I'm fully briefed on this. But I really 629 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:56,200 apologize Todd, dude, class act, because you know what he 630 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,839 could have said to me is I'll tell you what. 631 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,119 Why don't I take my nap and I'll get. 632 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,319 Speaker 2: Back to you. 633 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 634 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because kid, I don't need you, and I don't 635 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,519 need your twenty million dollar investment. It's nuisance to me. Yeah. 636 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,720 But there was that thing where I said that that 637 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,559 everybody in the room. Oh, now, he was just napping. 638 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:25,200 When you are aware of someone inside trading and you 639 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,640 overhear that you see someone, dump it, dump it. I 640 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,759 just got off the phone. I got a call from Congress. 641 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,000 Dump this stuff. And you're a junior staffer, you are 642 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,960 not going to go, hey, guys, that's illegal. We cannot 643 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:37,880 or you're not going to be calling the staff attorney. 644 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,279 And if you're a junior staffer, tell me if I'm wrong. 645 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:43,440 If the big finance companies and someone calls you, Zach, 646 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400 can you come to my office and you walk in, Hey, listen, 647 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,480 we're moving some money around. It's your turn. We're gonna 648 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,759 go ahead and park five million your account over the weekend. 649 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:52,359 Speaker 3: You don't ask questions. 650 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:53,359 Speaker 1: You just let it happen. 651 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 5: No, you don't ask questions. And one of the reasons 652 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,839 you don't in that scenario is because typically typically if 653 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200 all you're doing is taking an order, this is how 654 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 you sell it to yourself. If I'm just taking order 655 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,599 flow from this guy or direction from this guy, I'm 656 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 just doing what my scene. Now, do they know what's 657 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240 going on, Absolutely, they know what's going on. But if 658 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:17,559 you if you diavo, if you stand up and go 659 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400 this isn't right you know, you're you're out of a 660 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,400 job inside of the day. 661 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: Like that's that's just the one. 662 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,559 Speaker 1: You're poisoned in the industry. 663 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,599 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're depends on how good you were really, 664 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,759 So if you're super good, you're okay. Well if you're 665 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,599 if you're a no, I'm saying, if you're a whistleblower, no, 666 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,200 If you're a whistleblower. 667 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,279 Speaker 3: You're done. But if you get pinched. 668 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,559 Speaker 5: For doing it, you're not necessarily done. Like go look 669 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,720 at Steve Cohen. Steve Cohen got busted one of the 670 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,799 biggest inside trading deals. 671 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh I know that, Like because the didn't look at it. 672 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,839 Paint that was brilliant. Too bad you got pinched. 673 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:53,799 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, they're like no, no, yeah. 674 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 5: So I mean, shoot, if the publicity's big enough, it 675 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,200 could be great for your career on that on that 676 00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:00,640 side of it, because you. 677 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Can make money, right at the end of the day, 678 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,000 you can make money. 679 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: Can then let me give people an example for this 680 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480 at the government level, because it used to be you 681 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,640 became whistleblower in the industry, you're done in the industry, 682 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,480 but you become a regulator. Hey, come over to our site, 683 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,599 like you you know the reformed thiefs who go out 684 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,319 and teach law enforcement how to spot the thiefs. Right, Okay, 685 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,880 So we're gonna play something from the EPA. This is 686 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,319 Lee Zelden. And you listened to the money mount here, 687 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:28,960 you are not shocked by money mounts the way ordinary 688 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 people are shocked by money amounts. But listen to the 689 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:38,000 carrying system for the digits. Okay, listen to the medium 690 00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:40,640 in which the digits were carried. Listen to Lee Zelden 691 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,319 to the EPA. 692 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,759 Speaker 8: He's helden joining us now as we watch this, and 693 00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:47,599 he's also digging into waste at the EPA. 694 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: How's that going so far? Oh, we're crushing it. We 695 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,160 have a great team. Big development yesterday. 696 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 8: It was a couple months ago there was this video 697 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,279 that came out of a Biden EPA political appointee talking 698 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,680 about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic. 699 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,480 Says it multiple times in the video, rushing to get 700 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,640 billions of dollars out the door before inauguration day. Well, 701 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,119 members of Congress were really concerned about that. So as 702 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,239 I'm going through the confirmation process, they said, if confirmed, 703 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,360 will you commit to making this a top priority to 704 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840 find those gold bars came in. I was just confirmed 705 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,599 a couple of weeks ago we found them. They were 706 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,079 at a bank park just outside of government. Twenty billion 707 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:29,000 dollars was sent there and a little oversight, eight entities 708 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,920 would be receiving all twenty billion dollars and they would 709 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,440 be distributing all of these funds without EPA knowing everything 710 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280 that we need to to do our jobs, to provide accountability, 711 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,760 to congress the media into the public. 712 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're not moved by big numbers the way 713 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,519 most people are. Twenty billion in gold bars. 714 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: Now I know, I am I surprised by that story. No, 715 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:57,559 what does surprise me is how many? Because think how 716 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,559 many people were involved and knew about that. Okay, this 717 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,639 wasn't one or two people sitting there going nobody trumps bad. Yes, 718 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:10,400 but if we are violating all of these laws, aren't 719 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,159 we bad too? 720 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,119 Speaker 3: Or you like it? You know what I mean? It doesn't, 721 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:13,639 it doesn't. 722 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,039 Speaker 5: I can put myself in their shoes and you're still going, 723 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,159 this isn't the right thing to do. 724 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 3: One wrong doesn't. 725 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,679 Speaker 5: Make it right, right, Like if if to get the 726 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,159 guy that you say is the bad guy, you've got 727 00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:27,840 to trample all over the constitution. 728 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: Even if you win, what do you win? 729 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: Right? And then think about the guys. Think about that. 730 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,840 You said how many people involved? There's the idea, Okay, 731 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 what if we park them in gold bars that'd be 732 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,039 hard for people to discover. And okay, let's do that. 733 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:41,800 We'll do that. And then people like, okay, we'll do this, 734 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,159 and then someone says, hey, you know what, get this 735 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:46,360 stuff over the bank? What the gold bars? Who is 736 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,079 the intern that comes back and go, okay, we're gonna 737 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:54,440 need fourteen trucks. Pardon, well at least four Why the 738 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,920 gold bars? We need trucks? 739 00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:57,599 Speaker 3: Yeah? 740 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:02,679 Speaker 1: Why because they're stupid gold bars. So even the intern, 741 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,000 you know, has to whisper this stuff. And when you're 742 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,960 looking at government, no one even goes to jail. But 743 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 now we don't even have the revolving door, right because 744 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,840 the revolving door is oh, you figured out the scam 745 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,519 over there, Come and help us figure this out. Now. 746 00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,679 I want to end this by asking you about a 747 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:23,480 financial mechanism to which we're all held captive to some degree, 748 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,559 and that is social security. Okay, this is a woman 749 00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:31,159 talking about what happens with her parents and their social Security. 750 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,719 Everybody's paying into this. Our daughter, my wife helped to 751 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,199 do the taxes the other day and our daughter's twenty 752 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:42,000 one was looking at this, going what social security? And 753 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719 my daughter says, she just chooses to stay away from politics. 754 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,280 God bless her, but that's going to be gone when 755 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000 I'm near dead. Like you guys, all right, listen to 756 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,920 this dynamic and here's a this is just so cold 757 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,800 of social security. 758 00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 4: Social Security is such a joke. My mom passed away 759 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239 in November at sixty nine years old, and so me 760 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,159 and my sisters have had to go through her finances turned. 761 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,920 My stepdad paid into Social Security, paid their taxes their 762 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,639 whole lives. My stepdad died at sixty one before he 763 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,719 ever took any Social Security out, and so my mom, 764 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,639 because his social Security was more, my mom could only 765 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,800 take his social Security and hers just goes back into 766 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,559 the system. Between the two of them, they paid over 767 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:37,239 a million dollars in Social Security throughout their lives. My 768 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,639 mom now didn't take social Security out until she was 769 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:44,880 sixty five, and she died at sixty nine, so she 770 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,039 was getting like thirty two thousand dollars a year times four, 771 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,920 not that much. One hundred and twenty thousand dollars. She's 772 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,719 taken out literally the second you died. The funeral home 773 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,880 tells the IRS and Social Security. It's like the first 774 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,280 thing they do when they receive your loved one, so 775 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760 they can stop your Social Security check. 776 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: So zach, these people, let's say invest with you, and 777 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,679 I know you can't make promises and can't say this 778 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,639 is exactly what happened you or a competitor of yours 779 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840 who's the maducie and does a good job. A million 780 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,000 bucks is not that much money to investment over a 781 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:25,239 period of time. Let's say it's thirty years they begin 782 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,039 that million and one dies. Do you then call the 783 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:31,760 other partner and say, okay, so their share is gone. 784 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Stand at five hundred grand. We're going to keep the 785 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,719 rest of this right, is that some phone call fee 786 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,280 to make you know? Sorry about that five hundre grand. 787 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,800 We're going to keep that, but we'll do cool things 788 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,559 with it. So I'm going to get another signed football 789 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,559 and maybe another Hilly and all that. No, but what 790 00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:45,159 does it mean? 791 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: But no? 792 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, I certainly hack of a yet high hack of 793 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:52,960 a business if you can get it right. 794 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, here's the deal. I got a sweetheart deal 795 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,480 for it. 796 00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 5: I need you to pay me in a mill and 797 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,480 I'm going to pay you, wait for it, about one 798 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,840 hundred and twenty grands, right, big money. 799 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the killer, here's the killer. 800 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,639 Speaker 2: Right. 801 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 5: Oh, you can't privatize so security. Wall Street's gonna take 802 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,280 it now. I've done studies on this. Do you know 803 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:17,320 had that money been invested into the S and P 804 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,400 five hundred over that time, do you know what that 805 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,320 money would have been worth. 806 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess I don't know. Twelve million. 807 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,599 Speaker 5: I think it's right around Yeah, I think it would 808 00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,079 be right if I remember correctly, twelve to thirteen right 809 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:29,559 around there. 810 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: If it were privatized and the SP as an index. 811 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then they go, yes, but look 812 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,760 at the crash that happened in O eight. 813 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,639 Speaker 3: O nine, And I'm like, yeah, so that took him 814 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:40,679 down to five and a half mil. 815 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:44,679 Speaker 1: What am I right? 816 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: What am I menswering? 817 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: And by the way, yeah, it is privatized. This is 818 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,920 the crazy part. When government takes so security, do they 819 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,519 put it in a government box and it sits in 820 00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,719 that government box, and a government troll sits over that 821 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239 box and you're not getting into this, or does it 822 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,199 go into some investment mechanisms at some private organization that 823 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239 gives them substandard rates. 824 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:10,199 Speaker 3: No, it goes to USA. 825 00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,679 Speaker 5: It goes to USAID, yes, yes, yes. 826 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,679 Speaker 1: And usc IDE does what with it? They go and 827 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,960 spend money against democracy. It goes into federal programs of 828 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,320 this and that loan, and then they're coming back and 829 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,679 where are we getting the money back from China from 830 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,119 more borrowing, et cetera. It is privatized, just not the 831 00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:29,920 way they want it to be. 832 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,599 Speaker 5: Well, and that's why I've said recently, you've heard about 833 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,440 the occupied state that I live in, right, They're they're 834 00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,440 actively now trying to push that income tax. And I said, 835 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,679 and I've said from the very beginning, that's my last straw. Okay, 836 00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:47,519 you push that income tax. I'm leaving for two reasons 837 00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,840 because when you pass that income tax, it immediately goes 838 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,679 from a political disagreement to a moral one. Okay And 839 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,440 twofold A, what you're doing is constitutionally illegal, right right, 840 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:03,000 stated right there in Washington State. Yes, And then b 841 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:07,079 you're going to illegally extract that money from me and 842 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,320 use it against me my family, and what we believe in. 843 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,960 So no, you won't get any of my tax money, 844 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,320 including my excise taxes and my B and O taxes. 845 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,599 Speaker 3: The minute that law passes, Bulwark is gone. See you later. 846 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,679 Speaker 5: And I just I'm not I will not fund it 847 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,039 for the reasons that you put just right there, Because 848 00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,639 it's not just oh they take your money and you 849 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:30,280 don't get credit. 850 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: It's not just an economic issue. 851 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: They then illegally extract that money from you and use 852 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,079 it expressly against your own interest, and it's just insanity. 853 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yeah, total degree. And there's You're not the 854 00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,199 only person we've been talking to. I've talked to two 855 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,119 or three people now who are saying the same thing. 856 00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:51,639 This is the poll card. This is where we're out. 857 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239 And it's just because of course I'm not gonna sit 858 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,519 here and pay for my demise. It's always a pleasure 859 00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:57,880 to have you on my brother. Thank you so much 860 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,519 for the wise counsel Know Your Risk podcast coms where 861 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,119 he reaches at Abraham. This is the Todd Herman Shaw. 862 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,079 Please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please 863 00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,440 make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.