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Speaker 1: Hello Fred here, I just wanted to wish you all

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a happy East and good I recommend you all listen

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to Domond Jerry while you enjoy your three or four

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days off. Whatever housealt Joe you've got to do, stick

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the old podcast in your ears while you're at it.

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Could be anything pow washing, yard, cleaning your gutters, dropping

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a one hundred and forty chimney at ground. Everything is

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more enjoyable with Domond Jerry in your ears. Well, I

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think so. Anyhow, I'll see they Tom and there.

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Speaker 2: I'm out of sorts. I'm all out of sorts. He

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caught me on the hop this evening. I'm fresh out

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of shower. I'm not wearing any socks or you can't

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function properly with no socks on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different gravy like if you're a if

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you're even a slipper or a thing. I know, I

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get it. If you meant to go around the no socks,

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you know what I mean, like a summer's day which

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I love. Can't get keep socks on that, you know,

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full of mind, they are absolutely a waste of mon

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mind either. But if I get you, if I'm caught

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in the hop and I go, am I on, shoe on,

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sock on? What am I doing? If I get it?

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I get it? Have you belt on the trousers but there's.

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Speaker 2: No belt on tracky bottoms here, Tom, fair enough because

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if you were sitting there o'clock at night. But no,

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I'll tell you if if, if, if I hand this

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podcast over to Tom to carry it for five minutes

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while I run off and get a pair of socks,

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you know, I'll just be like, I can't fucking stick it.

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No for them, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hi, everybody, Welcome to

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the top and Jerry show. Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We don't. We don't go with airs

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and graces. I'm Jerry McBride. That's Tom. O'Mahoney wardrobe malfunctions. Tom.

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Speaker 1: I had my own at the weekend, and if anybody

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follows me on Instagram, I had to come clean about

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it because to the point that if it made my

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wife actually cry for fifteen minutes and get an asthma

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attack from laughing, I figured it was worth just coming

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clean and telling the truth. Gover. I won forty five

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when I got into the bed Friday night, so that

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became twenty nearly twenty three hour day, pretty tired up

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the next morning. Up the next morning for early haircuts

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with Keelan shut out. He's a great man. Listen to

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the podcasts in the barbers in there for half eight

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and he'll say, I had to feed more than the

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young flow. I'm out with seven The next morning, jar

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reaching around in the kind of walking part I don't always.

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I don't know what it is. It's a room work,

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our clothes are and I didn't turn the light on.

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I reached out crab what I thought was a T

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shirt of mine. It wasn't as I draw on a

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hoodie out the gap. And it wasn't until I had

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did this robe inside the barbers that I realized I

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was wearing a kind of.

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Speaker 2: Slinky number earlier.

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Speaker 1: The sleeves, do you know what? It would have been

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more masculine had there been no sleeves at all on it, right,

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like a wife beater. But it actually had little sleeves,

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little girly sleeves that just come off the shoulder. The

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neck was quite loose, and it was halfway up my

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belly button, and it was it was canary yellow and

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inside out Jesus Christ Tom. Yeah, but to be fair, Jar,

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when you're did low. The town's local comedian, the barber,

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who is also a sound skin, probably up since half six,

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himself cut in the hair, he said nothing. He was like, pass,

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no remarks, past, no remarks because also it's not like

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I'm the local solicitor, do you know what I mean?

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But then I get home thinking, then I got to

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go straight to Jay training. As you know, I'm at

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coach now, mister coach, I'm the angry coach. Even at that,

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I'm the bad guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're you're You're not the cool guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not. No, no, oh no. I thought

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I would be Jared. That's what I thought my role

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would be. And then it turns out I'm actually I

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don't know if anybody saw on my Instagram. Also my

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wife who came along and knows what my temper is

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about to flare up before I do. She came to

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football training and no one full well she was in

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for retreat, saw me being the rowdy coach. Look and

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yung FLEs out of at age six, and while her

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and all the mothers roared laugh and she went onto

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AI and made a culmination of me and Kim Jong

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owned with a Gaelic football and yes, so I came

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outside and I came clean. I'd go to train and

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keep the hood tightly tied up. And when I came

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back home with you never guess what I'm wearing, So

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what probably am worried that I was her underwear? I zipped,

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unzipped and showed her. And at that point she sped

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her coffee all over the fucking the kitchen, fucking counter

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and proceeded to get an asthma attack for fifteen minutes

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because she left so fucking hard. Even if I may

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go out and if I mentioned that or pointed that

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T shirt, now that woman is inconsolable for the next

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five minutes. It's she enjoyed that much. So anybody go

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to my Instagram show watch watch a middle aged man

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just come clean with society. It was my open letter

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to society that this can happen to even the best

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of us. I malfunctioned that.

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad now Tom, that i'd and have

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time to throw on a pair of the shower and

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arrived here to do the Tom and Jerry show. Still

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damp for you, find, folks, that's just.

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Speaker 1: What you're forgiven from my side anyway, given to carry

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on of me over the weekend. It's it's that I

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give you the backstory, but still all the same, it's

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it's kind of unforgiven to end up in that scenario.

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But I think people people enjoyed my fall because they

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came to the comedy club and care that night and

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at least nine different people started shouting up, what what

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T shirt? I was wearing under my shirts?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? If I was you, I just rock up wearing

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that T shirt?

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Speaker 1: Ever, why not? Why not get a whole bunch of

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them just for the hell of it? Like, but it did.

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It did look like I was ready for fame the musical.

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That's all I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: If you want to wonder with the core of young

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lads what I wear in the way, not to jump

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ahead in the show, but what the young lads are

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wearing these days. I wouldn't say you looked out of

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place in the fucking slightest.

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Speaker 1: Probably probably not, actually now you mention probably yeah, probably

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a lot of those likes on Instagram were just people

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going nice.

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Speaker 2: Nice you. You come back in a week's time, and

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to be ten lads are wearing that look what happened

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with the mullet.

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Speaker 1: You're all laughing at me now, every fucking flinging the

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jersey is going wrong with these gabby little half mullets.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, and I'm laughing at them as well. Tom,

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come here, we'll rock on with the show.

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Speaker 1: You are able the vest, but I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You didn't win the mullet argument.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I wanted.

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Speaker 2: It was a ship the hothouse flowers heading me. My god, damn,

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those were the days.

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Speaker 1: You had a great opportunity. And I will say that

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you had a great opportunity, but you didn't. You didn't,

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you didn't take it. But you went scandas enough, So

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that's fine. We better move on with the show.

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Speaker 2: Better move on with the show. Folks were gonna kick

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off as we do every week, with the big news

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the scuttle, but the rock is the weekly what have you.

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This is a very complicated case, mad You know, a

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lot of a lot of outs, a lot of what

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have you, and uh of SCRAMs to keep in my head.

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Speaker 1: Man, It's it's rare. I get I get pinned so

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much by the amount of times I got sent this

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from family members because they were like this is has

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dominant number one crime, you know, low level crime level,

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no live level crime.

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Speaker 2: Murder on the show yet killing the audience I suppose

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could Yeah yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's almost no cracking murdering, like do

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you know what I mean? There's a bit of crack

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and there's a definitely a bit that kind of show.

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Definitely a bit of crack in this one because we

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we like to see the Europeans just get a bit

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of kicking the arts because they're a bit smarmy with

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their good weather and all the rest of it. So

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and also, I mean, who doesn't like to see a

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huge multi national monster haveing They have their wings clipped

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ever so slightly. And this is Nestley the guy. The

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CEO of ESLE said that this guy came out a

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couple of years ago Jared and said water wasn't a

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human right, it should be sold by me.

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Speaker 2: So from the official Tom and Jerry stands on, Neslie

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is fuck Nesley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Nesley and shit much like bears a bear

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eating at a fucking nesle a shit.

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Speaker 2: Well, bears ain't even eating Nesle these days. Tom, what happened?

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Speaker 1: So what happened, and I love the way they'd left

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it a bit murky. Four hundred, four hundred and thirteen thousand,

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seven hundred and ninety three kid cats were fixed Jerry

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truck and all went absolutely sends abscondiondo after leaving a

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unit in wait for it Italiano and just the low

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jack system that was on at the driver's tracker, everything

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just disappeared. It was en route to Poland, and I

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guess much like you know Second World War story, this

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one didn't make it to Poland just.

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Speaker 2: Didn't make it. Didn't Irish man just didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't make it to Poland. And like that, they're

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they're looking all sorts. So it was in it came

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out like they were saying that. The first people to

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spell about it, of course was Agence France Presse, which

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are like, you know, liquip on one of these there

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because Nesle of course there's a French company. They were like,

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we got people this one why it is? And this

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came yeah, this came to This came to light because

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it reached over twelve that's twelve tons of kit cats here.

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Speaker 2: You see, I had gotten the number that it was

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twelve tons of kit cats. And I hadn't that hadn't

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been broken down to me as to how many bars

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it is? How many bars is twelve tons?

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Speaker 1: Did you say four hundred and thirteen seven hundred and

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ninety three?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now a million kit cats in the wind?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean at we'll say gross price net

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price in the shop, let's say two fifty a bar.

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These days, I'm guessing you're looking at close to a

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million a million euro million to kill kit cats.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot to.

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Speaker 1: Fit in any rock, Like you know what I mean,

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It's not to me, Like.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had never not once in my life,

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but until I heard this story, had I thought of

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how a KitKat gets transported because I've only ever seen

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in the in the outer sleeves, you know, like an

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outer sleeve of kit cats. And there's like I don't know,

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like turkey bars in a in an outer sleeve, and

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you see some of them like packed up in the

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back of a shop or some such before they get

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put out on the on the on the aisles by

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the teenagers. You know. Like just to me, I'd never

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seen two boxes of kit cats, let alone one hundred

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thousand boxes of it. And I've never dawn on me

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that Oh yeah, I guess, I suppose, I said to myself,

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I guess most graves has ten or fifteen of them

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on the shelves. But it's it's boggled in my mind

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to think of a lorry full of.

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Speaker 1: Kit cats a lorry. Fully you think, yeah, you wouldn't

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imagine it all arrive at the one time, because Nestle

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is so big. You think because Nesle had a did

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a plant in Cork and they used the specialist in me

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in Forrero Rash over near Douglas, and one of the

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few building sights I've ever been on that you're continuously

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hungry because you can all you can smell is for

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rail rashe in the air nearby. I've been in many

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a place where there's stuff in the air that you

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don't want. It would turn you after your fucking your

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your breakfast. But so you nearly think that they have

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a local spot everywhere making these things thought like, you know,

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one distribution point in Italy. And if it gets absconded, well,

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here's then all of a sudden, Poland doesn't have any

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kit cats for a year exactly. Now here's the tinger.

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They were on the way to Poland, right both they

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were a very specific one. So this might be the

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one that's only made back back at home base right now.

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They the thisn't tell you how the kind of money

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could Cat and Nesle have, Like they literally said, while

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we appreciate the criminals exceptional taste, the facts are made.

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The cargo theft is an escalated issue for businesses of

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all sizes, and you're like they had the opportunity to

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stick in like they had exceptional taste. Fair play lads.

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That's nearly more worrying in a way, isn't it, Because

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if a you know, a villain, which let's say Nesley

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are because they kind of are, turns around and goes

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fair place. Yeah, through that smiling smile, you.

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Speaker 2: Could do a lot with it. As a company, you

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could turn around and go like, couldn't help. But notice

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that there haven't been many Mars bars stolen lately. Yeah

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you know, yeah, because if people would taste steel care

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you could do something.

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Speaker 1: You could and no doubt they probably will. But in

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their statement there was like, you know, we quite literally

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they have taken a break with twelve tons of our choclate.

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But it's the kind of sinister, happy happy that they're

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putting out that to me says that somebody's gonna lose fingers.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's very it's very like lockstock or snatch.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, well done, lads, well done, well done.

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Want to me, yes, hope you enjoy those fingers, because

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that's a loss for four fucking fingers you're gonna have

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in thatt Rock Turkish.

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Speaker 2: You snapping those fingers up one at a time. Just

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remember a more snapped your fucking fingers off. I can't

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do the accents.

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Speaker 1: That was close enough. That was close enough for me

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on the wager. You see, these were specific one there

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were these particular bars because Kit Cat, if nothing else,

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there's a kit Cat fucking cereal up in that fucking

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cupboard somewhere. I guarantee you there is a new Formula

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one line. Now, how it tastes like a formerly one car,

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I don't know. But they actually have a chocolate formerly

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one car some in Sentil Square in York at the minute,

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crafted from chocolate, not plashtic from chocolate. But these were

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on the way to be distributed guessing from the big

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distribution area, like you said, the most grapes of Poland

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and it was too grips. It was the compliment. And

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then you then you watch me call it the new

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kid caat range was gonna be F one formerly one

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inspired and it got me thinking.

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Speaker 2: Jer they're sorry, I gotta pull it that one their tom?

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How is F one inspired?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe he's gotta point the end. Have

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you been down the rabbit hole? That is what KitKat

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and Nesley have been at. The fucking nankey bastards they

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have thrown do you know, Like you've been in enough

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marketing meetings and you talk these things over and things

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are spitballed back and forth, and you go, maybe we

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could do a Shardonnay and fucking hell cheese, fucking crisp

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and go cross. It goes around the table. Maybe put

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it out to a market in a market research survey.

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No disgusting, kid Cat, don't do that at all.

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Speaker 2: They really seem to be a law to themselves.

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Speaker 1: They're out of control. Ger when it comes to flavors,

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they're absolutely out of control. I'm just gonna shout some

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of these flavors at you. Please do and you can

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just come up with whatever you think they might be.

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There's a running team through this whole thing. That's a

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little bit fucking creepy. Right, there's one called Save the

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Blue Ocean kit Cat. What does that taste? What does

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that taste like? Malted milk? Apparently? Whatever the fuck? Ben

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had a caramel kit Cat? Get the fuck out of

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my face. No mint and dark chocolate, all right, it's

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been done before. Looks rank and wheat biscuit kit cat.

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Now this is where we start.

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Speaker 2: I say, no, you message the way for it. It's

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not a kit cat.

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Speaker 1: Hold onto your pants, flann pudding kit cat. Try that one. Advertise, Hm,

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the Japanese are wild. Coffee could break kit cat tastes

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like fucking coffee, as you can imagine. Here's where the

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first round of weirdness comes from. Adult sweetness number one,

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kit cat, Give me that again, adult sweetness, adult sweetness,

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and that's the flavoreder It's called adult sweetness. Taste of

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a sweet adult inside that bar. Moving on, fruity cereal

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Kit Cat?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that fuck that adult sweetness will tell you that.

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Speaker 1: Much right off. Matcha kit Cat.

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Speaker 2: I've had a match kit Cat. I think that you

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would be there that.

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Speaker 1: Can go and see just before I concrete it summer

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ice cream kit cat again, a lot of these evasion

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writing in the front of them, and I'm just going

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to say it tastes like vanilla dunk a use.

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Speaker 2: If you know what the vanilla kit cat and it

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don't get smarked.

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Speaker 1: Pistachio kit cat, which every bastard their mother tried doing

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fucking Dubai shite last year. Here we go here adult

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sweetness kit cat number two?

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Speaker 2: What what what differentiate's number one and number two?

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Speaker 1: This one's got a hint of matcha in it. No

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sweet thing historically, but okay, yeap cheesecake kit cat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not Yeah, if I was gonna eat a

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kick cat maple cat, and then you know, second to that,

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I might be cheese kay kit kit.

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Speaker 1: Maple Canada, also known as the sorry maple kit cat,

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also knows that, oh Canada kidkat, it has no bearing whatsoever.

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It's got some Asian writing on it. It's got a

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giraffe and a polar bear on the front of it,

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because you know they're native to Canada.

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Speaker 2: Natives to Canada. Strawberry miss a trick not calling that

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just a kit cat Canada. I know, I know, but

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then again it'll be a KKK bar, wouldn't it. Which,

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by the way you're going on, Tom, that's coming up

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now shortly.

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Speaker 1: Could be easily All of these are probably dirty names

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for sex positions and weird things that people write to

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each other in the dark web. Strawberry kit cat Okay,

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strawberry milk kit cat because why Adult Sweetness number three, Tom,

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I'm gone, We're wrapping the strawberry milk kit cat and

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it's just pink and tangy chocolate orange kit cat. All right,

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Terry's fair enough, but not get off the truck. Terry's

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nailed that back in the day. White chocolate kit cat

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absolutely fucking not bar. There you go. That is that

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it does look like it's wearing a little hood fairness

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and it's got brown inside. That's ironic. Strawberry and dark

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chocolate kit cat going to be absolutely disgusting. Here we

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go here, Adult Sweetness number three.

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Speaker 2: Folks follow us on Instagram, Tom w Els, would we

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like these fine people to do? What the fuck is

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adult's weakness Number.

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Speaker 1: This one's got is solidly strawberry flavored, but wait for

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it's fuzzy and mealy mealy Yeah, like an alka Seltzer

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got a mankey coating like what bar a meily bar? Yeah,

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Like you're feeding pigs mocha and chocolate kit cat mango

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KitKat fuck clearly off. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually say

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what I think is the rankest of the addam apple

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and cinnamon cat cat that can get so far into

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the middle of the sea. It tastes it tastes like

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perfume apparently, Yeah, yeah, and a perfume you're getting clears

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this person is making an honest reading. Then there's mob

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Blanc KitKat, which is Maron flavored. That's a hazel lot

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of or chestnut of some sort. Chestnuts fucking disgusting and

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probably what I'd imagine is the most disgusting of all,

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but with a notion of trying to be there for

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all the Yorkshire odds.

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Speaker 2: It's adult sweetness number four.

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Speaker 1: Well technically yeah, it's milk tea kit cat milk tea Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, okay, Tom, do you know we don't

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want to get into We remember when straight away, but

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kit cats used to be nice and now they are

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stink I.

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Speaker 1: Was put off kit cats. I like an al kit

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cat right in my head, but I was put off

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from years ago. Lad, Do you know with different leads

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are different kind of habits. It's lead, lad that I

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knew used to gnaw off the chocolate like a rat

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off on a k on a kit Cat and get

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it down to the wafer and then the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: And I remember watching I do that on a purple snack.

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Speaker 1: I watched him do that. Yeah, when they were teak.

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There's no point, but he used to do it. And

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I remember watching him the same way a prisoner who

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was about to shank somebody. Do you know, like I

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watched him when I'm gonna go across the fucking table

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of this this school canteen, just shank him with something

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and get another twenty five years on my sentence because

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the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what does it make to me?

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That's the way I looked at it.

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Speaker 2: So then for life may as well take if you

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buy it.

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Speaker 1: If any of those flavors I notice said formerly one

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flavored or from formerly one teamed kit cats were effect

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if any of them tasted remotely like one to twenty

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five disgusting fucking things and if any of them had

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a vibe of admiral sweetness of it getting the fucking

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see good luck they went missing in Italy. That's all

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I know.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, Tom before we move on.

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Speaker 1: Go on.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the thieves that these kitkats? Do you

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think they knew that's what they were stealing? Or was

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this a crime of opportunity that they just grabbed a

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truck and trove and they were as surprised as anybody

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to open it and find millions of kit cats.

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Speaker 1: If it was any other country, I'd say it was

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a it was a roll of the dice and just

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robbed it. But this was where a.

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Speaker 2: Crime was invented.

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Speaker 1: Crime was invented, Organized crime was invented. You know. It's

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costin Astra or cast An, austral or whatever they call it.

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Like I don't I'm not saying it was close to

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the Sicilian and close to the Sicily or that or Naples,

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but I'm just throwing it up there. I I this

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was but one hundred one hundred percent And do you

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know what they're doing? Do you know what they're probably doing? Hold?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what they're doing. Hold this this

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isn't gold. You can't sit in this for five years exactly.

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Speaker 1: They I guarantee. What they're doing now is they have

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it held held for ransom. They'll take maybe one hundred

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thousand to release eight in the truck.

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Speaker 2: Just walk away. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I That's what I would do. I

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just go listen. It's fair, right, there's no point in

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going to your insurers for this. I'm going to give

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you back the truck and all your kid gets for

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one hundred grand. I said, leave it in crypto, and

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here's me working for a living time. That's actually very smart.

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Thanks man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's an old move, but it's it's but

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it's fair. You don't ask for you don't ask for

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the price that the kid gets back. You still wanted

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to make some money so that they can you know,

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they'll rote out of another one next month.

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Speaker 2: Week on the least. Or do you want the Polish

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kids to get KitKat? Don't you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So it's I think I'm just saying, and I don't

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like the stereotype. I absolutely like the stereotype. It was

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the Italians, jar.

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Speaker 2: It was the Italians. The Italian job with Kitkats ladies and.

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Speaker 1: Hanging off the edge of the cliff like I was

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supposed to plant the bloody fucking dose off kit cats everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Kit Cats, well, folks, there you go. If you manage

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to get yourself a kit Kat over the easter, you know,

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maybe sell on the black market.

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Speaker 1: There's a shortage they have the Oh that's the one

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thing I meant to actually say, is that Nestle have

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all those barcodes, all of them right, and they'll know

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the second one pings and then that's when they're fucking

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so the boys camera and the fucking trainsit fucking smash

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you up in it. They will they ready for any

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of them, So they're assuming they need to be sold

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on the That's why I don't think they're going to

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be actually sold in any markets around Italy, you know

471
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,319
what I mean. I think it's just going to be

472
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,400
a ransom job truck and all released.

473
00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: One k and you want a chopper to the airport,

474
00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,680
I want one hundred kit cats with unmarked, nonsequential barcodes.

475
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,119
Fucking right. Okay, we'll move on.

476
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,799
Speaker 1: Tom, big blue, big blue bomb in the middle of all.

477
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:33,039
Speaker 2: Of just uh, Tom, We're gonna bust on to the

478
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240
next segment of the show where we don't just talk

479
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:38,000
about any lad, not the lads that rob the truck,

480
00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:40,519
not this lad, that lad, Our Lord and Savior Jesus

481
00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,599
Christ rising this sun. And know we're talking about a

482
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,440
very specific lad the second segment of the showtime we

483
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:47,720
call it this lad.

484
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: It was work. I was going to suggest our Lord

485
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,799
and Savior Jesus Christ, but you know we would.

486
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,519
Speaker 2: I didn't know how we would get through that without.

487
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: Well blasphemy aside. I think we wouldn't have. Had we

488
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,079
could've done a whole show. We might do him sometime.

489
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Let's just do it, you know, a deep drive into

490
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:07,319
Jesus and because I don't think you'd fit his whole

491
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,000
story in in fifteen minutes, not having a bit of

492
00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:11,119
crack off anything. Because we have to.

493
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,279
Speaker 2: Assume that Jesus Christ on the Tom and Jerry Show

494
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,440
and ever expect to see heaven in the last of

495
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,720
your lifetime. But here we are. Well, but you got

496
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:24,680
to tell you he died. He has risen this Sunday.

497
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,279
But when it comes, Tom, if you're a man like me.

498
00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:32,039
Speaker 1: A four day weekend, oh for me, I'll make an

499
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,359
a six day weekend. Yeah, that's a week.

500
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: Tom, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, nice, nice nice. I'm

501
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,160
off on Good Friday and Eastern Monday, so that's a

502
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,039
big bang four day weekend. And a lot of listeners

503
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,079
of the Tom and Jerry Show are probably like that

504
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
as well, or at least if nothing else, you've got

505
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:51,119
the Monday off, you've got a three day weekend, four

506
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,920
day weekend stretching ahead at you. And as has become

507
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,960
popular in this country, Tom, that can become a time

508
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,519
to bust out the powerwasher. Hard has been lying up

509
00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:04,039
all winter. It's easter that there's a bit of daylight

510
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,000
in the day. It's not a bit of walk there

511
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,720
now ye again at the start of the year. Time

512
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,000
to bust out the h the powerwasher. I'm getting mine ready,

513
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:15,359
my trusty character K seven ready to blast a couple

514
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,319
of flagstones at the weekend, very much looking forward to it.

515
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,759
Podcast on Protective Goggles on just Blast all my cares away.

516
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: Sorry for absolutely scoffing when you said, because you said

517
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,079
to me, all won't we right prediction? I have so

518
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,839
many goggles star and I just want I don't know why,

519
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:38,079
I just won't wear them. I was drilling overhead just

520
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,839
before the show bird proof in the front of the garage. Honestly,

521
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:42,559
I have a problem with it. Does swell As make

522
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,640
it back this year? And then I just burned the

523
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,839
fucking garage with them in it. But no, I've bird

524
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,720
proofed it and I'm drilling overhead and even at one

525
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,359
point herself comes over with a whole the letter I

526
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,839
guess you will not. She's like, do you want a

527
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,279
pair of goggles? As this dust was just falling straight

528
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,160
into my retinas and I was like, no, Jerry, get

529
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,200
so much satisfaction if you found out I was wearing.

530
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,559
Speaker 2: We're going to end this podcast in a couple of

531
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000
years time looking like fucking late by got Grove era.

532
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,759
PG and Duncan. You are going to be blind going

533
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:13,799
about with classes and I'm just gonna be fucking leading

534
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:14,440
you about the place.

535
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That might be the greatest niche reference that

536
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,640
has ever happened in the Dan near ten years of

537
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,680
the Toma Jerry Show. PG and Duncan for that one

538
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,119
little bit where ant of Dick I think went blind.

539
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,240
It the we might get them on the get the

540
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:37,480
leads on the podcast not up to a lot these

541
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:38,160
days Welcome.

542
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah we might. We might actually do the blinding of

543
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,279
at McFarland in a later episode, but from now we're

544
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,319
talking about Easter. I'm busting at the character case seven powerwashing,

545
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,599
powerwash my yard at the weekend. Maybe a lot of

546
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440
you folks are, but it's puzzles in mind of an

547
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,880
old Tom and Jerry episode with a long long time

548
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,119
ago called Toolbox Legends, where we talked about the people

549
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,119
behind the tools and we said fuck it. In honor

550
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,000
of the first long weekend, we have to do a

551
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,519
power a bit of power washing. We'd take a look

552
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:15,079
at the lad behind Carterer Carcher himself, mister character.

553
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,519
Speaker 1: Do you know what it has to be said? If

554
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,119
you're gonna put your name on a thing, it's gotta

555
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359
be good, not you know what I mean. You're not

556
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,119
gonna call it the buzzwash two thousand, Yeah, you know,

557
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:30,359
if you're gonna just go like prior to character being Carcher,

558
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,200
he was it was just a surname, so it'd be

559
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,279
like it'd be just like McBride, although McBride powerwashers does

560
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,319
have a good grin to like Mikhail's. Baler's are the

561
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,960
best in the world.

562
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: So you know what I mean it it does two

563
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,440
people Tom, you know, you know great times like when

564
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,519
mister mister Williams, you know, yeah.

565
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or Black and Decker yeah yeah yeah, right

566
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:50,400
enough massive.

567
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 2: But we we thought, like, you know, the listeners might

568
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,000
like to learn a little bit about the people behind

569
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:58,599
the tools we hold in the hands. So we're gonna

570
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:00,759
be dropping a couple of toolbox legs here and there

571
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,839
throughout the Tom and Jerry Show as we go on forward.

572
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,359
We're nearly at one hundred episodes. I don't know why

573
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359
we haven't been doing this all along time, to be honest,

574
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,359
which sitting right there all the weeks that we had

575
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,440
fucking know this legs.

576
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, sometimes this let's just put

577
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,599
their hand forward. And I think character is that it's

578
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,160
got to be the It's got to be the one. Actually,

579
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,240
it's the Henry, isn't It's it's it won't let you down.

580
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,759
It's the It's the Henry. It's so many households. It's

581
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,720
a character. The old man, I think he is. He's

582
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:32,559
upgraded from his character. He loves the powerwasher, he loves it.

583
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,279
He's upgraded put the character. He still has a soft

584
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,200
spot for it in his heart, but he's after buying

585
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440
a fucking animal other thing now that would split the concrete.

586
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:40,400
I don't know what he got there for.

587
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,359
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like the character is very much the

588
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:46,000
how will I say it now, it's like the Black

589
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:48,680
and Deck or of Powerwashers, Like, Yeah, you're not going

590
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:50,640
to take a character on a site anymore than you're

591
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,440
going to take like a Black and Deck or Sander

592
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:54,440
on a site with getting laughed out of it, you know,

593
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:55,319
but it.

594
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: Wouldn't last the pace of doing that at a professional level.

595
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,359
Put perfectly fine. When Jerry needs to blow the winter

596
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,119
Mass office couples of.

597
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,839
Speaker 2: My eighteen foot by eighteen for the cobblestones, all the

598
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,359
land I own in the world, fucking prisoners with more

599
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,240
real estate than I have.

600
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,599
Speaker 1: I'm fucking jealous that you can contain it to that,

601
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,319
to be honest, that you don't need to bring a

602
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000
livestock to fucking tempt down your fucking well, let.

603
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Me tell you about the short and eventful life of

604
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,880
Alfred Karcher. What a man the guy you're on about there.

605
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680
Alfred character was born in the second of January nineteen

606
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,880
thirty five, and, as the name would suggests Thomas got

607
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,799
a couple of the little loom lights over the aar

608
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,279
there that tells you straight away he's not Scottish.

609
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: What part of Nigeria is he from?

610
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,039
Speaker 2: He is from Germany, From Germany. He was born in

611
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,799
excuse me, he was born.

612
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:46,319
Speaker 1: A cough sounded like a real pregnant calugh that you

613
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,799
put it there on purpose. Actually he was born.

614
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm leading you into it. He was born in nineteen

615
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,799
oh one and he died in nineteen fifty nine. Toime,

616
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,279
I'm not an old man when he died. He was

617
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,200
not even sixty at that stage. And if you look

618
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,920
at Germany between nineteen oh one and nineteen fifty, Yeah,

619
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,200
we got a story to tell here, buddy.

620
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, like many things and I have nothing open.

621
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,039
You sprung him on me, and I got excited straight

622
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,640
tow it, because anything to do with tools I'm gonna

623
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,200
get excited about. So I did, I want you to

624
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,559
tell me everything is like where does like where?

625
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: How?

626
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,839
Speaker 1: He can't have just decided nobody in Knight. Let's say

627
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:26,240
he's twenty two and he gets up and going as

628
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,240
an engineer or whatever, he mechanic or whatever. He was

629
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,279
Nobody in nineteen twenty four, was looking for their yard

630
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:34,039
to be powerwashed.

631
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,559
Speaker 2: Er, well, you know, you'd be very surprised, Tom, you'd

632
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:39,119
be very surprised. But first and foremost, no, nobody was

633
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,799
looking for their you ad to be powerwashed there when

634
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440
young Alfred in nineteen thirty five was what was there?

635
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:45,559
Speaker 1: Like?

636
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: Nobody was thirty four thirty some odd years of age,

637
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,359
along with his father, founded the Alfred character Okay, here

638
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,640
we go, let me stretch up here for this one.

639
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: So nineteen thirty five, you say, nineteen thirty five the

640
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,559
Alfred character color our uniforms at the world, at the workplace.

641
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,240
I wonder Mardy Brown.

642
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: He founded the Alfred character commanded, you'll sell shaft command

643
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,279
this yet No, no, fuck it the Alfred Character company.

644
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,480
Fuck it. I don't know, I can't. That is like

645
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:17,720
the lungest word I have ever seen in my goddamn life.

646
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Ah.

647
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,759
Speaker 2: And they did not make powerwasher's brother, They made emersion heaters.

648
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well, okay, do you know what I mean?

649
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: Like, do you know there's something just telling me Tom

650
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,039
as I as I as I learned that today, there's

651
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,200
something just telling me that I might have sold in

652
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,079
my life in the hardware shops immersion heaters with the

653
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:41,799
character logo on.

654
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised as they walked away from it. I mean,

655
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920
still a thing that's required at the minute, or do.

656
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,759
Speaker 2: You know the yeah that the willis flasks, So I

657
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,000
don't know, I'm gonna have to just just just when

658
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:53,880
I read that, I was just like, oh yeah, fuck yeah,

659
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,039
remember character anyway, regardless of which, they were rocking and

660
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:04,160
rolling in nineteen thirty nine, done done, done, when all

661
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,039
of a sudden nothing happened. It was a great time

662
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,480
and everybody had fun. Ninety thirty nine from World War Two.

663
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,880
You know, we had this when we did tool Box

664
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Heroes last time that Bosh did their best to stay

665
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,240
out of the war. And they're like, oh, no, shit, no,

666
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:27,319
I guess we got to make windscreen wipers for a character.

667
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Was he was there because he was so specialized in

668
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,000
immersion heaters and whatnot. They said, if you can heat

669
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,200
an immersion then you can heat the wings and tail

670
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,119
units of the Luftwaffe if they ice up.

671
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, that's any of the engineer, I

672
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,440
don't care who you are, that's a challenge. Do you

673
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,559
know you're gonna go Hey, you know what, let me

674
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720
have that. And you know what, and this is like

675
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,759
I've heard people kind of get busy about you know,

676
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,319
who worked during the war and stuff. Yeah, you have

677
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,279
no problem with up and driving around v w's. It's

678
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,000
no problem with driving around BMW's. And by the way,

679
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,039
the amount of American companies that were on both sides,

680
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,200
and but they were funding both sides through products, and

681
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:16,960
then when when the war ended, the American they retracted

682
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:20,920
and their American ones just sued Germany for lots of

683
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,799
lots of earnings because the war had ended over. You know, so,

684
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,720
I I you gotta make a book.

685
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,359
Speaker 2: You gotta make a book. But I'm gonn tell you something, Tom.

686
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,680
It sticks in my fucking crawl that these lads worked

687
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:36,599
through the war and put and profited from the war

688
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,000
effort in Germany and still to this day are charging

689
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:43,160
me fucking three you know what I mean?

690
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm gonna put it?

691
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Really improfitable? No, you did pretty good fucking streak there

692
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,160
for ten years.

693
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: Last. Look, if the fure has a gun to your

694
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,599
head that says you have to make my things warm,

695
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,400
you got the fuck right? Fine?

696
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Allright? Okay, And I suppose if our hands are four,

697
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:04,799
then we better do all our manufacturing in Russian, Polish, French.

698
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,039
It's described here tom work camps.

699
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: So no, but they were clean as work camps in

700
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,880
all of Europe, I'm.

701
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: Gonna tell you so. Not only were they making you know,

702
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239
wing warmers for the love and like little fan heaters

703
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,559
for the pans or no for the the foker aircraft.

704
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,760
You know, if you were cool and you turned on

705
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,280
a heater, it's a character, you know. Those pilots are like,

706
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,400
oh God, we love we love character. We love it

707
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,760
all day. They were also making we cookers like it

708
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,199
seems to be just like whatever the equivalent of an

709
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,760
air frier was back in the day, like small household

710
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,719
equipment for warming up your sausages and share.

711
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, look chair, I mean to the victor's go the

712
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,079
it tells the story like I'm just like to shake off,

713
00:34:56,519 --> 00:35:01,039
to shake I'm not excusing working for fuel, but what

714
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,280
I'm saying is to shake off that funk and come

715
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,119
out the back end of it still selling powerwashers to

716
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,039
Jeremy Bryden, Ireland. Yeah know, in the in the two thousands,

717
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,280
it's good going, that's good going in anybody's book. That's

718
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,960
good going. General, that's quite a that's quite a funk

719
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,400
to shake off yourself there. So he went anyway, So

720
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,840
the war, the war ended, he had a fast turnaround

721
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,679
because I mean he only died in the He died

722
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,119
in his fifty so he had a fast turnaround to

723
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:30,559
make a state of the art household name like well.

724
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: Tom twist goodthubn good tubbin. But did he But did

725
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,440
he Tom? Because no? Yes. In nineteen fifty Character started

726
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,920
to develop the first domestic high pressure cleaner, and they

727
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,000
were hot water cleaner. So I guess there would be

728
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,239
we would use today for washing out milk and parallels

729
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,519
and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, whatever the equivalent of

730
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,599
that is. You're not going to wash You're not a

731
00:35:57,639 --> 00:35:58,760
power hos in your yard with.

732
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Hot No, but you yeah you can. You can get

733
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,639
those all right, And they pretty much had their own.

734
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,039
It's again the immersion heater exactly.

735
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. It's electric delivered really fast. Yeah

736
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,559
yeah yeah, But it wouldn't have been I dare say

737
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:15,000
for domestic use.

738
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,679
Speaker 1: No, this thing probably either came around in the truck

739
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,480
or a man had to come and build it on

740
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,519
your site, and it was.

741
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:25,039
Speaker 2: For it was for cleaning out. I'm saying milk and parlors.

742
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,960
I wonder what else Germany wanted to clean out in

743
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:29,440
a hurry round about that time.

744
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Do you know they're still their souls? I imagine, yeah.

745
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,000
But look, he was a man for all corners of

746
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:36,800
the war. It would see.

747
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,159
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and he was then a man

748
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,679
for all corners of a coffin because in nineteen fifty

749
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,280
nine he died of a heart attack.

750
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: He developed a domestic sold thing.

751
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: That's the twist, because that's when all of a sudden,

752
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:58,559
this lad becomes this lady Irene, Irene Charter. That's an

753
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,800
Irene character. That's a great name of the business.

754
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,559
Speaker 1: I bet I just imagine her hair done like you know,

755
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,360
a real Hilda from back in the day, like like

756
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,039
just curled up at the sides, stripped doc clothes only making.

757
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Of the time. I'm just like, you know, she was

758
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,960
either like a books and Blonde in an SS uniform

759
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:26,119
or like a house frow, you know, waving.

760
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: A role in Books and Blonde, because you know, he'd

761
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,159
made a name for himself.

762
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Well, regardless of which, she was one smart cookie because

763
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:37,840
she increased revenue by seventy percent. For a woman to

764
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,920
do that in the fifties year after so her husband

765
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,159
was taken along doing all right, doing rightly, and she

766
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,199
was just like, I'm going to raise revenue by seventy percent.

767
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,960
Post war Germany, post like the fall.

768
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Like to be able to do that, That's what I'm saying,

769
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,400
like to shake off the funk. Germany went into a

770
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:01,880
fucking spiral, downward spired after both wars and prior to

771
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,960
the First War, they went in that downward spiral. They

772
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,159
weren't the recovery was only for the rich really at

773
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,760
the time, I well, for hard to take what would

774
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,599
have been I guess, to go domestic when people hadn't

775
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,599
a part to pisson like, rather than trying.

776
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: To go to the strict domestic just yet Tom, but

777
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,920
you know, for large business councils and all this kind

778
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,079
of thing, like when when when characters were selling powerwashers

779
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:32,440
back then they were selling like powerwashers to the councils

780
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,000
to clean buildings and clean graffiti and and and do

781
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,559
you know what I mean.

782
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just looked up the word powerwasher in German.

783
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:43,639
Speaker 2: I do that what I couldn't pronounce up the way.

784
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh I'm just part of this word. I'm not saying

785
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:55,800
out loud. Fucking no, it's a wash oh wreck Ryan, No, No,

786
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,159
that will cancel the that will cancel it.

787
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: I just anybody go no one side of caution with that. People.

788
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: You go and just look for the translation powerwasher to

789
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,960
German and have a look. Why Tom didn't try.

790
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:16,679
Speaker 2: It led the company to strength upon strength and built

791
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,480
it into the global powerhouse that it is today. She

792
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,039
established offices all over the Shengan area, so the Germans

793
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,360
made it throughout mainland Europe by fucking herker by crokr body,

794
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,000
and then in nineteen seventy five opened their first production

795
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,559
facility outside Germany in Brazil. Not beating the fucking allegations here, lad,

796
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:37,280
I'll tell you that much.

797
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: Wow, they went to Brazil. Interesting Argentina, a very interesting.

798
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,039
Speaker 2: Argentine is a little too on the nose, Lad, go

799
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:45,599
a foot to.

800
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: The right, Yeah, because you know there would be conspiracies

801
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,400
to say that they went there too. It's quite a

802
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,360
big place, Jesus, all the places to go.

803
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: What the fuck was wrong with Egypt? I'm gonna tell you, Look,

804
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,840
what do I know what do I know about the

805
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,480
production of powerwashers for large scale cancel purposes and becoming

806
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:11,519
the number one name in power washers until nineteen eighty five.

807
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:15,719
Tom nineteen eighty five is when the first high pressure

808
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,599
cleaner for domestic use started to roll out in the shops.

809
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: And is it is it still owned by character?

810
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,599
Speaker 2: Did they like it is still owned by character? Yes,

811
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,280
the character has passed away in nineteen eighty nineties. Well

812
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:34,960
the excuse me, but like children, grandchildren, holy like that.

813
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,519
Speaker 1: In anybody's eyes, I think this lad is actually irene

814
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,960
because oh yeah, no, absolutely the visits.

815
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Snatched the ball there and move. That was the twist

816
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,920
in the middle of it all together.

817
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Like, it's one thing to

818
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,119
start with the old man and then all of a

819
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,000
sudden a war o starts as they just need your stuff.

820
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,440
You're like, okay, well there's no even sales and marketing here,

821
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,599
it's just you need my stuff. I'm going to make

822
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,800
your stuff. But the war friends Germany's not got a

823
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,039
great name at the time. He dies, and she takes

824
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,239
the ball by herself as a woman in the fifties

825
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,920
and turns it into a fucking global household name monster

826
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:18,119
like that is not I'll be it. I'm not saying

827
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,320
like you're saying, there's still entirely one but by the Watchman.

828
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,440
I was almost said owned by the fewer, but it's

829
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,199
owned by the family. And yes, so we can assume

830
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:33,199
that there's very little official investment came in. But hm hmm,

831
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,239
just the very fact that the first place they went

832
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:45,760
to was fine North America Brazil. Immediately there was like

833
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,519
what did you call him, like an angel investor, like

834
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,559
a mentor, So there was a mentor somewhere there, just

835
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,599
not saying that Irene needed a hand and go girl

836
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:55,880
power and all the rest of them both.

837
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: Someone had boots on the ground in South America. It

838
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,360
was friendly to German business, which is what what what in.

839
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: The business world, it would call it open a soft,

840
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,079
soft meeting between the two. That's because it's a big jump, now,

841
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,119
big jump to go all the way to Germany and

842
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,719
across four time zones and end up in Brazil. So

843
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,360
I'm interesting. It would be a very interesting to do

844
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,079
a proper investigation into something like that and how they

845
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,079
ended up where they ended up. But then what you'd

846
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:31,440
probably open it up would be BMW shut you down,

847
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:33,760
all these other ones just going.

848
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, I got to tell you we're we're in

849
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:36,880
too deep already.

850
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: We need that type of podcast. Yeah, much like I

851
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,679
take the ball and run with it yourselves.

852
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, be the be the be,

853
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920
the be the winner you want to be. And we

854
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,039
hope that's a little interesting nuggets of information for you

855
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:55,559
about the history of the Character Family while you're powawashing

856
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:56,239
your backyard.

857
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: The Character Family. It makes them sound like they're going

858
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,920
to be like a a Bible musical group, doesn't it.

859
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: Like yeah and.

860
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: Pray, Oh, it's the Character Family. I love them. I

861
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,679
love them very clean, very clean, not dorek on them

862
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:12,199
people at all.

863
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,519
Speaker 2: There you go, they have exceptionally good washers. Listen, there

864
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,599
you go a little bit of a history lesson of

865
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,519
the Character Family down through World War Two and beyond.

866
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:26,000
But me and Tom like to take you on another

867
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:27,960
little history lesson to the wrap up of the Tom

868
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,480
and Jerry Show. Here Every week, when we look back

869
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,559
on the things that have changed in our lives from

870
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,679
the early eighties when we were born to whatever the

871
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,880
fuck year this is now, we look back on it

872
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,920
all in our closing segment. We remember when when I

873
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:46,079
was a young lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago.

874
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: This again as it came about really as a result

875
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,440
of a current happening, because I sent Jerry on an

876
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,639
article the other day and I just I'm going to

877
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,840
get it up judge a second quote it right, so

878
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,599
it would seem there was a viral video. There was

879
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,440
a viral video went around quite recently, and it's of

880
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:19,760
a squirrel vaping in a park. I don't Yeah, everybody's vaping.

881
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,199
Some people are saying it's not real and stuff like that,

882
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,079
but I've seen squirrels and they i'd squirrels rip open

883
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:31,440
bird feeders. They're little. Anything that has hens in the

884
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,519
animal kingdom is letal, do you know what I mean?

885
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:38,480
It's little. You'll see monkey smoking and the people go, well,

886
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,079
I don't know if the course is because of the

887
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,519
fruity flavors. That definitely if the one the picture that

888
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,599
went viral isn't the one, I guarantee a squirrel somewhere

889
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:49,639
in the world. I've met some of the most aggressive

890
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,480
squirrels when I lived in America, Like proper, I'm fucking

891
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:59,559
walking the squirl. Yeah, Like if seagulls have learned in

892
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,599
double to steal a sandwich and a chip straight out

893
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:04,159
of your hand while you're about to put in your mouth.

894
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:08,199
I promise your squirrels are vaping and what this kind

895
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:08,840
of and they're.

896
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 2: In a good company. Tom. Now everybody's vaping.

897
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: Tom, You vape, brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah, less and less

898
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:16,800
these days, thank god. I'm putting it away more and

899
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,679
more these days. But it doesn't it doesn't seem to

900
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,519
It's quite a low dosage and everything in it.

901
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: That sure, that's what we wanted to talk about here,

902
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:28,000
and we remember when. Yeah, actual fact, I got to

903
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,760
lean on you here, buddy, because the subject about today

904
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:34,039
is smoking because you are a smoker. Tom. You've been

905
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,719
a smoker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have ever been a smoker.

906
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,679
I've smoked maybe ten cigars in my whole long life.

907
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Ah, you're missing out, you're missing out. It was It's

908
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:45,760
fantastic because smoke.

909
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to I just wanted to ask you, Tom,

910
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,199
because you were at the forefront of this here now

911
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,840
of smoking as a smoker over the last thirty forty years.

912
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:58,960
You might just think, well, yeah, you know, Spencer and

913
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,760
the hedges, all the air every day. No, No, that's

914
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,760
what it used to be. That's what your dad started

915
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,800
smoking Benson and Hedges in the fifties and smoking on

916
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,599
the little nineties or whatever like that. Straight through, Tom,

917
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,159
you've had an whole manner of nicotine delivery systems, whether

918
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,119
to smoke better, smoke worse, smoke less, or just get

919
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,199
fucking more of it in you.

920
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: That's the thing it there was. I suppose it probably

921
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,440
came about when they finally had to admit that they

922
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,599
weren't good for you. Do you remember when that that

923
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,480
movie do you know what I mean?

924
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,519
Speaker 2: No, Tom, they were saying that in the fifties.

925
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Ah, but you know that was just rival gangs, that's all.

926
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:36,400
It was just rival gangs. There was a moment there

927
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,280
mental ones. They're supposed to be good for you and stuff,

928
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,239
but where they were just was never It was definitely

929
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,159
never admitted by the cigarette companies, you know what I mean.

930
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,079
They didn't have to write any warnings on the packs.

931
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: We have seen a lot of changing cigarettes down through

932
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,519
the years. Well, let me ask you a question, Tom, Now,

933
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:50,719
when did you start smoking?

934
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Probably had the odd fag in school, you know, the

935
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:58,880
bolcks like and that's the thing that would happen then

936
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:02,360
really a couple of you know, it's smoking a bit

937
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,880
in college when you drink and stuff like that, but

938
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,440
it wasn't a still like an into construction really and

939
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,719
then it's all out, it's all out.

940
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: And here here's the here's the thing right with smoking

941
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,039
back in the day, even the packs, as you mentioned there,

942
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:20,199
the packs look completely different. Both my parents smoked and

943
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,280
it was just a colorful pack of cigarettes with no warnings, nothing,

944
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,800
legs cut off.

945
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: I smoked. I smokeding, actually smoked. Do you know what happened?

946
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:34,400
I brightly smoked in the summer. I went to America

947
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,480
right because they were like the the my boss, she

948
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:43,159
was the captain of the security company, and because with

949
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,199
all ranks they were being America. They did it really

950
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,280
for the top, over the top. But she used to

951
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,639
buy me cartains. They were like American Spirit or something

952
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,760
like that. To me, it tasted exactly like Marlboro lights

953
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,440
and it was for nothing then full white filter and

954
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,679
everything felt like one of the Golden Girls or something.

955
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,639
I was smoking with her out the back, but it

956
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,760
was they were I fucked. I'm gonna say it out loud.

957
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,440
They had a big gold eagle on them. They were

958
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:13,320
cool as shit.

959
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,159
Speaker 2: Shit, So like little by little, more and more stickers

960
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:23,519
started appearing. One I remember, like this is how far

961
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,800
back I'll go. I remember there came like a little

962
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,960
white stamp on a pack of cigarettes and it's still

963
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,199
on it to this day. And it's some sort of

964
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,199
customs sort of thing.

965
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and it used to have them, which

966
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,159
she used to be able to get ten packsture. One

967
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,519
stage you could buy a single cigarette. You could buy

968
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,559
a single cigarette, yeah yeah, and the like it's it's

969
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,719
it's slowly but surely, like more horrific pictures of lungs

970
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,239
and dead children around the front of packets, and it

971
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,079
didn't determine, deteriorate any of your yearnings for a cigarette,

972
00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:58,000
did knock back nothing. It were wasting their time and

973
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,760
like I said, it didn't really. It wasn't an admission

974
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,199
by the cigarette companies. Philip marri has been the I suppose,

975
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,599
the king of them all. There was no real admission

976
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:09,639
that until the retailing was in that that film was

977
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,199
the Informer with or The Insider with Russell Crow. Yeah yeah,

978
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:18,239
he blew the whistle basically on the cigarette companies, and

979
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,639
they finally had to come around and go, yeah, okay,

980
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,039
we're putting two thousand chemicals into him, and I'd switched

981
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,119
to like rollies, you know, which is I mean, it

982
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:27,000
was just raw tobacco, you know what I mean, And

983
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:28,840
it would slow you down because you actually had to stop.

984
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,519
And if it's fucking raining, which it was a lot

985
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:33,400
of construction, you just didn't have one. So they weren't

986
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,920
that easy easily accessed. But I do remember I remember

987
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,039
the smoking band coming in into bars and stuff like that,

988
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:41,679
and it was this apros like, what the fuck kind

989
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:45,199
of nunny state of we turning, of course, offered lows

990
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,880
of opportunities to small builders who went on building extensions

991
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,719
with vent you know. And then of course they stopped smoking.

992
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,599
You can't be smoking in a cafe or a restaurant,

993
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880
what the fucks now? Smoking on planes had been stopped

994
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,960
a long time, so I kind of understood there was

995
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,599
places you couldn't smoke. So as time went on in

996
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,239
the construction industry, it's too easy. Everybody smoked, and if

997
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,519
you have to talk to a guy, which I did,

998
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:10,880
I had to go around the whole huge fucking site

999
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:13,760
of one hundred and eighty acres, talk to different men

1000
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,039
and at every point talk about it. Stop what they

1001
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,519
were doing, whether it was on the shovel, laying a

1002
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:24,679
pipe on a digger, they'd all stop and go, don't

1003
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,519
go away, got right, and you would find yourself doing

1004
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:29,079
the same thing before you know it. Then you're a

1005
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:31,039
figure two in. You're going right, so we know it's

1006
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:33,079
grand and you're a wake and two fangs have been

1007
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,760
had in this conversation. So there was an it was

1008
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,320
an epidemic of cigarette smoking. And you'd see the odds

1009
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,480
sign going up in an office and the going too

1010
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:43,480
much smoking and you need to look after your head.

1011
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,320
But we have some cartoony sign that. Of course, the

1012
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,480
construction industry were harangued into putting up around but they

1013
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:49,280
didn't give a shit.

1014
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: It didn't give a you know what I mean, don't

1015
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,519
wear hard hats space where sh it's been dropped directly on.

1016
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fags are the we can keep them off

1017
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,400
the fucking heroin. That'll be good, right, So Tom, tell

1018
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,920
me when was your first attempt?

1019
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: I can failed, but.

1020
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,199
Speaker 1: Yeah I did fail because I can never I can

1021
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,440
remember it. It was would have been two thousand and five,

1022
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,400
maybe two thousand and five at this stage, and I

1023
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,039
can remember coming off them and I was using patches

1024
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,400
brought up nicarette.

1025
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,679
Speaker 2: Our patch is still a thing. They are, They are

1026
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,159
still a thing, and and and and like you knowing

1027
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,320
Tom wouldn't know what a nicorette patch was. But that

1028
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,760
was like a little sticker that you stuck on your

1029
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,239
arm exactly slowly leaked nicotine inch your system right.

1030
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: And I think I must have gotten too strong of one,

1031
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:40,760
like there wasn't. I was trying to gauge how many

1032
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,960
cigarettes I smoke versus what I need, because there were

1033
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,880
different strengths of them, okay, And I can remember putting

1034
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,039
one on my arm and my whole fucking arm bean

1035
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:50,559
like I got punched. It was dead for the day.

1036
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:53,519
I'm like, what the fuck? You peel this thing off?

1037
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:56,320
And this ship had been leaching into your skin. I

1038
00:51:56,679 --> 00:52:00,079
just fucking, oh my god. Produced there was still the

1039
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,000
twiddly fingers. It was too much of a habit built in,

1040
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:05,159
so really the time to do would be like when

1041
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,280
you were taking two weeks holidays is just breaking the habit.

1042
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,199
And I remember that time we'd lasted almost a month

1043
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:16,360
going and I was going maybe maybe over these things

1044
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,719
and just something happened. It was like a Friday, and

1045
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,159
I can remember. The guy's name was Marking some coved.

1046
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:24,519
He was built like a fucking three ton digger and

1047
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,400
he was down on a trench and he just went

1048
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:29,800
fig and my hand went out, took it and had

1049
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,960
it lit before I realized yeah, and I got all

1050
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:36,760
light headed, and ever then, any normal rational person listened

1051
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,079
to as would go. Of course, it felt disgusting. You

1052
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:42,719
walked away from all together. I went absolutely not if anything.

1053
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,920
That cigarette had two little grappling hooks, and I I went, gotcha, gotcha, dying, gotcha.

1054
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,079
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the patches, though, I wonder what

1055
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:53,920
kind of effect they would have had on someone who

1056
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,039
had never smoked before.

1057
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: In our life, this is a question we often asked, like,

1058
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,280
I would imagine they'd make you violently sick. I would

1059
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,000
imagine it was such an overload. Now here's the thing,

1060
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,360
Much like anything with the word en at the end

1061
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,079
of a caffeine toring, you know they're they're a stimulant,

1062
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,280
so not nicotine. Nicotine by itself only clear nicotine is

1063
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,239
actually not terrible for you. It's not good for you,

1064
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,440
but it's not terrible for you. It's all the shit

1065
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:24,679
that the cigarette companies put in it to flavor keep

1066
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,280
it lit preservedly from rotting in the box while it's

1067
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,920
sitting on a fucking port somewhere. They it's stolen by

1068
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,639
the Italians, let's make and the amount of addictive chemicals

1069
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,480
that they put into it, Like a one stage cigarettes

1070
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:39,800
has something close to this, eighteen hundred different touches of

1071
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,239
chemicals in them, like the cigarette you get in a box.

1072
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,760
Horrendous fucking things all to get their hooks into you.

1073
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,079
And I remember that cigarette. It was like a silk cutter.

1074
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:49,599
It was a silk god. I even remember that. It

1075
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,800
was fucking grotesque, but I horsed into it anyway, light

1076
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,719
headed out for a couple of pints that night. Sure

1077
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,199
you're gone, but I tried the gum then at that

1078
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,559
that did fuck on. You saw together.

1079
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: Again, that's just like a literally like nicotine chewy.

1080
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a chew. It was a chew. It

1081
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,320
made no sense at all. It was the problem was

1082
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,719
my environment. If I was working in an office, I

1083
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,840
think I probably would have had much better success because

1084
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,960
there's only a designated time. You can't speak while you're

1085
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,800
working in construction. You fucking can no problem. Very liberating

1086
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,360
when you think about it, but trying to come off

1087
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,360
the fags back in the day when every horse seemed

1088
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,320
to fucking smoke, and you're talking to all these horse

1089
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,280
I only dealt with outdoor stuff. I didn't deal with

1090
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000
anything indoors. Once it the roof went up, I'm out

1091
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:45,880
of business. I wanted the next thing, groundworks, diggers, and

1092
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
I'll never forget. One of my favorite people, Lord of

1093
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,760
Marker sent Me, died only recently and he he reverenced

1094
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,440
him on this show before. His name was Dick Shelley

1095
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,000
was an execator driver from the hone. He was nor

1096
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:03,960
Tipperary these Tipperaries, well, no north East it would be yeah,

1097
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,320
I mean Nortis Tipperaries. Answer to Fred Dibner the traction engines,

1098
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,239
but far more foul mouthed, hilarious. Used to come out

1099
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,000
with phrases year that we're just I've actually got a

1100
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,079
bank of him that I'm gonna I'm gonna do it

1101
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,280
in a show some year. But he he used to smoke,

1102
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:24,760
damn near a full pouch of old Holborn, which was

1103
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,239
notoriously strong. It was nearly as strong as pipe tobacca. Yeah,

1104
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,800
he would smoke nearly a full pouch of that in

1105
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,400
an entire day. This excavator driver called Dick and he

1106
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,599
was being told by friends of families had to come

1107
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:41,239
off the facts. There comes a certain point, tip and point,

1108
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,239
and we've all heard of Nannette that smoked. She was

1109
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,239
ninety eight and she came off of from one day.

1110
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,760
She died because the body just what you know. And

1111
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,880
Dick was me in told left right and Cindria had

1112
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,159
to come off the cigarettes. And I'll never forget.

1113
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,679
Speaker 2: I went, you're not going to come off Jizabeth.

1114
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: And he went to a hypnotist, which were big at

1115
00:55:59,400 --> 00:55:59,719
the time.

1116
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,639
Speaker 2: Okay, go on.

1117
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,159
Speaker 1: So he went to hypnotist. And I was intrigued with

1118
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:05,760
this because it was like maybe I go myself. But

1119
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,679
I was like, you know, I figured I was good

1120
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,199
to this fellow'll do nothing for me. And there comes

1121
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,159
upon Dick was trying to describe to me this guy

1122
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,760
was had him holding imaginary balloons in his hand and

1123
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:19,039
he was fucking no time, but he was he had

1124
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,159
no tobacco with him, right, So I'm like, so you're

1125
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:25,480
off the fags that man for two days. It was

1126
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:31,440
almost like you you put you put some sort of

1127
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,039
malware into a high performing computer. It was still kind

1128
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:39,760
of working. But something was way off. Something was something

1129
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,320
was direct like, something was off. He was just where

1130
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,440
he was normally sharp and sparky, and he was always

1131
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,039
with the quick quips. He was like a guy who

1132
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,239
just wasn't there, you know what I mean. He was

1133
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,519
just not right, Like he was like what and it

1134
00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:57,639
was me By the day day three, I'm like, I

1135
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,920
think we both think you need to go back in

1136
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,800
the cigarettes. He's like yeah, And he lived another ripe

1137
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,400
age he lived. I could assume he was sixty. He

1138
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,280
lived into his eighties. Like you know what I mean, Well,

1139
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,920
smoking happy comes a tipping point where you smoke so

1140
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:10,880
much where you just can't come off them. But the

1141
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,480
hypnotist one was always the one.

1142
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: The hypnotist actually, you know, that's the very purpose of

1143
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,679
we remember when, because every now and then it'll just

1144
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,400
throw something up that will really flash something very very

1145
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,800
big in your brain. Like fuck, yes, I'd forgotten all that.

1146
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:24,960
That was a big thing.

1147
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: They were making money. They were making they were making

1148
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,239
hypnotists all over the country were making money getting people

1149
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,000
off the smokes.

1150
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:33,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like two thousand and four, two thousand

1151
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:35,320
and five, like there came a wave of that through. Yeah,

1152
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:37,599
and I guess I guess it talies with the smoking

1153
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:39,599
ban and people being just all of a sudden, like

1154
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:41,960
the mid two thousands was really where we were like

1155
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:44,800
and you want to say, ninety state governments and all

1156
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,440
this kind of tract They really were just saying like,

1157
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,280
we cannot build hospitals quick enough for the rate that

1158
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,239
people are going to them from smoking related illnesses. But

1159
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,840
we do love that smoking revenue. Is there a halfway house?

1160
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,000
Is there something we can have? Yeahgan throwing a smoking

1161
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:01,199
ban here here and here, and at least we'll we'll

1162
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,519
we'll slow it down a little bit. But I remember

1163
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,880
a lot of people going to hypnotists and and and

1164
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,760
they come around and they go to like the hotels,

1165
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,920
Like so there'll be the smoking hypnotist is going to

1166
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,159
be in the Glen Carn next week.

1167
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be like.

1168
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: You going turn to town just selling out shows.

1169
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing, Like he know, he had to

1170
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,559
get an appointment for this guy. But I do remember,

1171
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,039
like you said, to be a guy he's going to

1172
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,800
be there between the you know, whatever in a certain hotel,

1173
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,679
and it was a thing because people were worried coming

1174
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,119
off them, and there was I remember there was one

1175
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:40,039
thing you could get. It was a tablet you could

1176
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:44,599
actually get prescribed. It's cause, uh, Champicks. What's the name

1177
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:47,679
of the Champics Champis. I'm sure there was like a

1178
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,199
that might be a brand name, you know. I mean

1179
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:54,239
it was champ Picks or Chanticks or he was Champicks,

1180
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,519
I'm nearly sure. And a couple of lads tried it

1181
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,960
and it just made him super fucking It didn't really

1182
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,480
knock back ravings all that much, but it made him

1183
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:02,760
super fucking ill.

1184
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Champicks. It's like it's like the champions.

1185
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:09,480
It's like smoking.

1186
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,239
Speaker 1: I guess we're supposed to knock back your cravings. So

1187
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,480
it's like the ozen pic of fags back in the day.

1188
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: There you go, I just sort of still on the go,

1189
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,039
are they Oh yeah, I know you can get Champicks

1190
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:22,079
ace even if you want.

1191
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, there was, I mean, there's there was

1192
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,840
anybody that's you see, I suppose we're vaping took off then,

1193
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400
because I suppose there was. The argument was that they

1194
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,559
were it was a healthier alternative, more socially acceptable alternative.

1195
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,000
Two cigarettes like whether it is or it isn't.

1196
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,559
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you Tom before before the vapor

1197
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:46,119
and I seem to remember, it was like a little no,

1198
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,320
I didn't I know of people that had them, rather

1199
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,719
than oh yeah it was a little fake cigarette.

1200
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was like a little plastic to

1201
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,039
be honest, it looked like a period applicators. What it

1202
00:59:59,079 --> 00:59:59,400
looked like.

1203
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:01,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little fucking tampon thing.

1204
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1205
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: And the gimmick with it was that you you you

1206
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:10,079
drew on it. You take at least yeah, yeah, and

1207
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:12,199
you were sucking. I guess inside was just like a

1208
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:13,159
little wall paper.

1209
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,599
Speaker 1: I think that some such yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

1210
01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:19,039
pretty sure somebody opened one one that show show me one.

1211
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:20,760
But like you could see the guy was just fucking

1212
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,679
dying inside. It was like, this is terrible.

1213
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,239
Speaker 2: I didn't recall as well now and again I'm looking

1214
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,199
in rather than looking at on all this. But one

1215
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:31,960
of the earliest cigarettes I ever seen looked like a

1216
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:34,039
cigarette with a little red tip that would.

1217
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: Be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't.

1218
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,559
Speaker 2: It wasn't what we would call a vape. These days.

1219
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:41,239
It was just I think it had like a little

1220
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,320
water nicotine in it.

1221
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were, that's exactly, and it was there was

1222
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,920
no there was a glow off, but I think it

1223
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,719
was just pure.

1224
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,639
Speaker 2: It was just it's just more.

1225
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:52,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you would. There must have been a little

1226
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,480
fur behind it, sorry, because it would glow as per

1227
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:56,960
how much sucking you were doing through it, like it

1228
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,679
would actually glow brighter than So there must have been

1229
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,519
some sort of little, like I said, some little turbine

1230
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:05,079
just to get it go. It wasn't necessary, but there

1231
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,119
were ones, and they were very chalky. I remember trying

1232
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:10,519
one of those for a couple of weeks and they

1233
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,039
were very fucking chalky. It was just a cloud of

1234
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:17,199
fucking dust that would go into your lungs like but again,

1235
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:21,440
not good healthy smoke. I think the big problem that

1236
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,559
at the time it's because we'd passed, because I can

1237
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:28,280
never understand, like, wow, why what is the addiction to

1238
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,320
these fucking things? And it really was the ability to

1239
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,639
be allowed to smoke them anywhere. And there's social connection

1240
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,880
that you would have with lads you worked with because

1241
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,960
you'd come to a stopping point or a discussion point

1242
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,400
and a city would come out then like it was

1243
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,800
almost like, I mean, they've done away with the advertising

1244
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,159
and formula one and stuff and a little quick one.

1245
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:47,519
Speaker 2: Did you know?

1246
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you know when Benson and Hedges were sponsoring Jordan, right,

1247
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,679
Eddie Jordan's cards, So Eddie Jordan had done a deal

1248
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,440
at the time, so they're like they were gold, black, golden,

1249
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:04,480
and red. And he went because it was mentioned heads colors,

1250
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:07,719
but that color actually becomes like jockey's becomes your assigned color.

1251
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,880
Then ye recard and he had done a deal with DHL.

1252
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:14,599
He was doing a deal with DHL at the same time,

1253
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,360
and DHL went, yeah, but you can't really be associated

1254
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,000
with fangs because no, the fangs are on the way out.

1255
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,440
They're gone. So let's us do a deal to go

1256
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:25,880
man because DHL at the time we're white and red.

1257
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,559
And that dad will tell you we did. We did

1258
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:30,199
any Jordan a couple of a couple of months back.

1259
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:32,599
That will tell you how strong of a salesman he was.

1260
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:35,679
He went, you want to be class if he changed

1261
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,679
your color branding to yellow and red, way way better,

1262
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,360
way better look mc donald's Cogan universe. You know what

1263
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,119
I mean? Heaven knows what he said at that meeting.

1264
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,039
But to get DHL to go, yeah, that's a great

1265
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:50,360
idea for your Jordan cards, which are now wrapped up.

1266
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:56,159
He got him to change their entire livery their and

1267
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,639
DHL is yellow and red to this based based originally

1268
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,079
on the cigarettes, beds and and hedges, which originally gave

1269
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:05,559
the color like Eddy for you like Eddie. So that

1270
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:07,639
was that was when they went out. But then it

1271
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,440
was I couldn't really grasp this level of negativity towards

1272
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,840
it or how it was so addictive because I wouldn't

1273
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,880
actually smoke an awful lot by myself, indeed, because for

1274
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,280
a long time I lived by myself when I was

1275
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,920
working construction, and I wouldn't smoke. And you smoke one

1276
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,239
in theeed and maybe after the dinner or whatever, maybe two.

1277
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,719
What are you hoof throw them during the day? It

1278
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,000
was like, oh yeah, because it's a punctuation it's a

1279
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:33,679
social social punctuation point. You know, we weren't all rushing

1280
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:35,199
out for a fag because we were all the time

1281
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:38,639
outside for a fag. So that's what made it super hard.

1282
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,039
Speaker 2: So when did you start vaping?

1283
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: Tom?

1284
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: Probably even we want to get back that we want

1285
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,199
to circle back to these squirrels.

1286
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: I'd say eight or nine years ago, I'd.

1287
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:50,679
Speaker 2: Say, you're vaping the length of the tom and Jerry shoging.

1288
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Immediate effects as soon as because

1289
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:58,960
you start hacking up long lung butter once you stop

1290
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:00,840
cigarettes for an was the same when I came off

1291
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,280
from that time. You're just HARKing up long butter like

1292
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,079
it's just sitting there on your lungs with the less

1293
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:09,960
and lesson using this thing. I would hope, I would.

1294
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,519
It's losing a lot of interest at the minute. I've

1295
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,400
just I've filled my life with so many other things

1296
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,199
that indeed, you know that it's almost wheedled its way

1297
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:23,400
out of my system. Is a hindrance, is a long one.

1298
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:24,840
This is why I say to people like I could

1299
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,880
never have electric car, Gotta charge my laptop, fag phone,

1300
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,599
the whole lot by fucking some of my power tools

1301
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:33,920
in charging, and now you expect me to charge the

1302
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,920
anxiety I have over all these things.

1303
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: So and they're not going anywhere. Our vapes now, the

1304
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,239
early ones I remember, you know, they looked like what

1305
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:49,360
the fucking your lads played in Star Wars, And now

1306
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,440
they're like they're sitting in the palm of your hands,

1307
01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:54,960
and you get them a minty flavor or whatever anything

1308
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,079
you fucking want. They're so good. Even the squirrels are

1309
01:04:58,159 --> 01:04:59,280
vaping these days.

1310
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: When there's price now as regular cigarette, So he mays

1311
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:03,199
do one or the other. Look, if you're smoking me,

1312
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:04,840
you got him. There's a world war comeing. Let's get

1313
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,079
into it.

1314
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: Smoke them. If you got him is not a great

1315
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,039
is not a great? Finish to the segment ary, Go

1316
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,880
Tom's History two cigarettes again. It's the Tom and Jerry stance.

1317
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:15,320
Don't eat nes slayer products, don't smoke.

1318
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: Or smoke products.

1319
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: Whatever you want is having a bit of cracking and

1320
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,360
a pack of kick cats come out. Tell you what

1321
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,400
you can do. Tell you what you can do. Never

1322
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:27,480
known to cause anybody any serious harm whatsoever. Get your

1323
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:30,719
ass on social media and find the Tom and Jerry Show.

1324
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,400
You'll find us on Instagram at Tom and Jerry Show.

1325
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,320
Tom with a T, Jerry with a G. And you'll

1326
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,360
find me over on Blue Sky at Jerry McBride. Thom's

1327
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,119
haunt of choice is Instagram at Tom o'many and you'll

1328
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,679
see that lovely yellow top that the man was wearing

1329
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,800
what else we want these find people to do tom while.

1330
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:50,599
Speaker 1: You're listening, whatever platform it is, go hit hit subscribe.

1331
01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:52,679
If you can't hit a bell button what you can

1332
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,280
do on Spotify. Not sure what it is on Apple Podcast.

1333
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,119
I should really find it out, but maybe it is

1334
01:05:59,199 --> 01:06:02,000
as responsible. But when you do land on the bell,

1335
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:07,159
hit that lend into your phone automatically every single Thursday morning.

1336
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,400
If you can't give us the five stars where we

1337
01:06:09,559 --> 01:06:11,639
have a huge number of five stars, so we are

1338
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:14,119
rocking a solid five stars and mix some more visible

1339
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:16,559
to everybody else, so you know it'd be cool to

1340
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:21,159
do that. You can most definitely leave comments at Spotify, jir,

1341
01:06:21,239 --> 01:06:22,920
have we any comments to go back over you?

1342
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: Indeed, sorry, I'm putting through it here. I'm looking for

1343
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:27,920
comments for people. Yeah, Max over there on Spotify telling

1344
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,440
us that he was a Martal arts enthusiast in his

1345
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,440
youth and Chuck was up there with the greats. Yeah,

1346
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,320
he was twelve when Walker came out, so yeah, he

1347
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,320
was banging. He was banging on he was just right

1348
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:43,400
where Walker. Yeah, Walker Texas Ranger. We were we were

1349
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,960
old dad Walker's for babies.

1350
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: The only thing keeping me interesting was the beard. Hey, Jar,

1351
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,119
I'm going to have to make a move. Do you

1352
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,440
know why I'm out hearing probably one of the scariest sounds.

1353
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,199
And man, we'll hear before a long weekend approaches. My

1354
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,159
wife is going around the house. What sounds like a

1355
01:06:58,199 --> 01:06:58,800
measuring tape.

1356
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:01,079
Speaker 2: Oh no, would you christ time? Okay, I'm gonna let

1357
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:02,679
you go on that, folks. There was a whole bunch

1358
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:04,400
of good stuff. Thanks for all the Chuck Norris jokes

1359
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,199
over on Instagram.

1360
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:11,239
Speaker 1: Oh brilliant, brilliant. And as Jerry said, if you do

1361
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,440
follow us on on Instagram, please go have a look.

1362
01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:16,840
Jerry made a little demonstration there yesterday and I counter

1363
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,119
argument made it a counterargument to it, and it should be.

1364
01:07:20,199 --> 01:07:21,679
Speaker 2: It should be up at the stage the sock to

1365
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,920
me challenge. Can you turn your sockets side upside down,

1366
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,719
close it and turn it background with all your sockets

1367
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:31,119
in it? I can, Tom cannot. Good luck, Good luck,