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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Backflips and Nerds, the Baseball Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with a British twist. I am Darius Austin and we

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<v Speaker 1>are delighted today to be bringing you the great Britain

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<v Speaker 1>World Baseball Classic Preview, the podcast you've all been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>The tournament starts extremely soon and we didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let that go away without the opportunity to preview the

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<v Speaker 1>full GB roster in detail. Joining me to do so

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<v Speaker 1>the excellently named Rob jazz Nevera as he's put on

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<v Speaker 1>his little caption here, Rob, how are you doing jazzed today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving it. It's great. I'm all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are recording as the Brewers are about to play

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<v Speaker 1>the GB team right now, and also joining me is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be our man on the ground for the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks. It is, of course Russell. Lisam Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, doing good, doing good.

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<v Speaker 4>Just pretty much finished packing most of my stuff, will

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<v Speaker 4>record this, then pack the laptop and we'll head down

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<v Speaker 4>to Heathrow at six o'clock in the morning to get

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<v Speaker 4>my flight out to Houston. It's going to be fun

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, remember a couple of times ago you flew out

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<v Speaker 5>that way and you triggered a global pandemic. So if

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<v Speaker 5>you could lay off that this time, that would be

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<v Speaker 5>really appreciated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we haven't quite had the months of warning that

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<v Speaker 4>we had the last time around that something is.

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<v Speaker 3>Spreading around the world. Pandemic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, still a pandemic or something else. Maybe that's happened

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<v Speaker 4>in the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Topical on that cheery World War three inducing note, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some baseball. I suppose before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what you're going to do, Russell. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should because we'll obviously have a lot more coverage around that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be able to the listeners know a bit

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<v Speaker 1>about where you'll be and what you'll be able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we should talk about the team, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should talk about what seemed to be some

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<v Speaker 1>potential late changes first. So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners will probably have seen the originally announced roster.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it are there rumblings that we might have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a couple of probably not surprising me so,

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<v Speaker 1>but a couple of late changes to the roster.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, according this has been confirmed by our sources within team.

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<v Speaker 4>Team GB as well, but on the WBC roster, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of pitchers have been scratched and one replacement has

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<v Speaker 4>been confirmed, with a second one being TBD. But Antonio

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<v Speaker 4>Knowles and Michael Peterson, which is a shame for myself.

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<v Speaker 4>British Gast himself will no longer be competing for Team GB,

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<v Speaker 4>and Dylan Cubby has been added into the roster as

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<v Speaker 4>of right now. Both all of the teams have like

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<v Speaker 4>an extended pitching pool which they basically I think give

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<v Speaker 4>five to ten players which they were basically allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of poll players from during this kind of as

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<v Speaker 4>the tournament goes on, or even a pre tournament right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what's happened. We don't know the exact reasons

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<v Speaker 4>why yet. It's pure speculation, but both of them are

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<v Speaker 4>fringe roster players, especially for Peterson with the Marlins, not

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<v Speaker 4>certain if Noles would be directly making the Dodgers roster

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<v Speaker 4>at the start of the season, but both of them

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<v Speaker 4>could be probably potentially prioritizing getting roster spots, which in

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<v Speaker 4>most regards you don't blame them because there's a seven

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars difference between being a driple a player

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<v Speaker 4>and being an MLP player.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a difficult time of the season for those

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<v Speaker 1>players who are trying really hard to win that job,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. I think, you know, these couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>are probably the most crucial couple of weeks for spring training.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're that player who's not necessarily going to make

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<v Speaker 1>the team to make your case, this is crunch times.

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<v Speaker 1>So as much as it would be great to see

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<v Speaker 1>those guys on the roster, I understand why they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>not making it over.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but obviously with with Covey as a replacement, it

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<v Speaker 4>is a player with with major league experience, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>great as someone who's competed in International Baseball with Team

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<v Speaker 4>GUS Team US previously in a Premier twelve, so video

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<v Speaker 4>have experience and a good like head just to bring

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<v Speaker 4>in as well, I think what will help with this squad.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>It does kind of put Team GB in a position

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<v Speaker 4>of maybe having not a full plethora of lefties from

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<v Speaker 4>the pen, But we'll have to see how that goes

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<v Speaker 4>as the tournament progresses.

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<v Speaker 1>We certainly will. I will say we are recording right

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<v Speaker 1>now as GB are about to play the Brewers. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've just started the game. I think ny and

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<v Speaker 1>just led off for GB, so we've got an actual lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess i'll ask both of you, is this

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<v Speaker 1>are these are names you're expected to see? Rob, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got some familiarity with the GB team from the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know these guys? You heard of them?

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<v Speaker 2>I know some of these guys. Yeah, of course there's some.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some names in here that the you've you've you

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<v Speaker 5>remember from days of and I don't follow the team

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<v Speaker 5>nearly as much as as probably I should.

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<v Speaker 2>However, of course I know some of these names. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot now find it, which is really frustrating because I

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<v Speaker 2>can read out them. I'm vamping. It's fine, I'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get there.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Look, there are guys on this team we do know,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I've called myself Rob Jazz on the on the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the big name.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, but he's not one of the heroes from last

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<v Speaker 5>time who pushed over that Columbia team. So yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 5>there's names here, and yeah, the pitching perhaps is a

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<v Speaker 5>little lighter than we expected, and maybe we're missing some

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<v Speaker 5>of the star names that we thought we we might

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<v Speaker 5>get there was some you know, some Chapman's and some

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<v Speaker 5>you know, some of the little bits around the edges.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, we've got the Harry Force, We've got

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<v Speaker 5>a Tasman right there, and we're not going to win

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<v Speaker 5>this thing by being the most talented you know baseball team.

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<v Speaker 5>There's sort of a gritty element here, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going there to win a game and and and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we got we've got a decent chance, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, mum, how with it?

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<v Speaker 5>I know some of these guys ask me three four

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<v Speaker 5>years ago, probably not, you know. So it's building, it's

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<v Speaker 5>getting bigger, it's getting better. So yeah, I do know

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<v Speaker 5>some of these guys, not as much as you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, I would put myself in.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the more even normal.

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<v Speaker 5>Baseball public here in the profile is raising and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what we need, is what we want so long way

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<v Speaker 5>to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>And Russia made some lineup predictions a little while back.

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<v Speaker 1>How does this match up with what you were expecting

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<v Speaker 1>from this roster? Do you think this is what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to use going into the first game of the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament itself?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Last time around the lineup when they faced the Brewers

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<v Speaker 4>the first time around, had seven out of the nine

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<v Speaker 4>players who ended up starting game one. So it is

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<v Speaker 4>Dbon under a new helm ship with the brad Mars

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<v Speaker 4>Leno and does sort of Spencer. But I imagine they're

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<v Speaker 4>working from a similar playbook as before, So this, I

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<v Speaker 4>imagine is gonna be pretty close. Some positions maybe different,

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<v Speaker 4>some defensive alignments might change, and the order might change.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we'll kind of see how that works out.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the lineup we've got Eaton chism Ford, Murray Robinson, Johnson,

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<v Speaker 4>Trace Thompson, Fox, and Lewis Junior basically in that order

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<v Speaker 4>from the prospective lineup that I had that I put

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<v Speaker 4>out a couple of weeks ago. The kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>main difference is with Luke kind of like with Lucia's Fox,

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<v Speaker 4>and with h Lewis Junior in for Macaperniac, who I

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<v Speaker 4>had in and I also had an Aquard in. That

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<v Speaker 4>stuff really comes down to who's going to play shortstop

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<v Speaker 4>for fteen GB. Really, Fox is the only one that's

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<v Speaker 4>played at the highest level and they're still currently playing

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<v Speaker 4>in that position. We know Jazz has history in that position,

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<v Speaker 4>but we don't know he's currently playing second base in

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<v Speaker 4>this game for TMGB, and we don't quite exactly know

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<v Speaker 4>what strings have been attached to kind of some of

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<v Speaker 4>these players players joining. So tgb's general approach has been

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<v Speaker 4>put the best nine hitters in a lineup and the

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<v Speaker 4>defense will sort itself out. To Gav's heart rate, my

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<v Speaker 4>the last tournament might have suggested that sorting it out

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<v Speaker 4>is a an over positive. There were definitely a few

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<v Speaker 4>crows to first base when the point award was there

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<v Speaker 4>as a as a as a shorter fellow basically trying

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<v Speaker 4>to trying to deal with that, didn't get the best

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<v Speaker 4>of throws, and there was a few errors in that

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<v Speaker 4>in field. But we'll see kind of how that progresses

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<v Speaker 4>through this this this this tournament. But no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a lineup. It's a lineup that has more players in

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<v Speaker 4>affiliated baseball than they did last time around. And as

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<v Speaker 4>Rob said, that's because we're basically seeing this team be

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<v Speaker 4>bigger profile and as I talk right now, they've just

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<v Speaker 4>scored their first run against the Brewers, So yeah that Mazerowski,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah again, Jacob Mizarowski, So already going better than maybe

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<v Speaker 4>some of their preseason games last time around. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>to be one of the things that's highly amused me.

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<v Speaker 4>There was BJ Murray singling to a guild bad who

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<v Speaker 4>was somebody who was rumored as having gathered to be

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<v Speaker 4>the team to play for Team GB. So maybe there

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<v Speaker 4>are these some discussions going on in between with a

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<v Speaker 4>few of those guys. We'll get to the names of

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<v Speaker 4>the second but I think as Rob kind of went through,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of maybe this person can play

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<v Speaker 4>a lot, especially with players with Caribbean heritage. The WBC

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<v Speaker 4>rules effectively as like do you have the chance to

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<v Speaker 4>get a passport? Which is a kind of effectively with

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<v Speaker 4>the way passporting works with the Commonwealth countries, which is

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<v Speaker 4>effectively as like most of them is like could your

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<v Speaker 4>grandparent get a British passport? Which means that your parent

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<v Speaker 4>could get one and then means that you could get one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of those rules have been tightened just

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<v Speaker 4>around now because we have the Olympics coming up and

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<v Speaker 4>those things get a little bit more stringent and are

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<v Speaker 4>more round of like getting closer to the point of

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<v Speaker 4>just adding you having to need to have the passport.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, this is a this is a strong line up,

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<v Speaker 4>and yes it's the best team that GB's ever put

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<v Speaker 4>out there, and I think hopefully that'll just continue over

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<v Speaker 4>the next few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely a lineup full of names that you

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<v Speaker 1>you may well have heard of. I think there's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of representation, either guys who've played in the

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<v Speaker 1>majors or guys that you know, we think may well

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<v Speaker 1>play in the majors at some point in the relatively

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<v Speaker 1>near future. That's exciting. I don't know if there's anyone

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<v Speaker 1>rob You can say Jazz if you want to, But

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<v Speaker 1>is there somebody in this lineup that you're particularly looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing play for GB?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the obvious names or is there somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>the Nate Eaton's of the world that you might have

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<v Speaker 5>last time. So you know what, he's taken a second

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<v Speaker 5>And I reckon this time, maybe he's actually gonna think this,

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<v Speaker 5>there and be seen a little bit. You know, if

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<v Speaker 5>this does something for his career, which you know it's

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Trace was a key player in the

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<v Speaker 4>our sleeves there. But I think Rob is right that,

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<v Speaker 4>like it will be really interesting seeing how he progresses,

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<v Speaker 4>Like he is not potentially like the standout player in

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that I noticed most from being like on

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<v Speaker 4>is like, how well like they actually like hit BP,

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<v Speaker 4>then going watching Team USA hit bbcause that was the

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<v Speaker 3>Was just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>He was basically putting on the second deck and putting

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<v Speaker 4>them into the scoreboard like every single swing. So you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's a really simplistic guide, but like you could

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people around it last time around. This time,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he might have more broader support. So for me, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>seeing Jazz back is amazing. It's been effectively ten years

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<v Speaker 4>since he wore that jersey in a qualifier that was

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<v Speaker 4>in late twenty sixteen, so that's kind of like amazing

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<v Speaker 4>to come back around again. Otherwise you just got like

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<v Speaker 4>people that Aya was lucky enough to talk with in

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<v Speaker 4>person kind of last time around, which would be just

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<v Speaker 4>great to kind of like meet up again and just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of see these guys like Tyler Bizza was a

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<v Speaker 4>really kind of like interesting person to speak with and

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<v Speaker 4>Vance Warley life last time around. Those were guys are

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<v Speaker 4>just great baseball experience and honestly just interesting people to

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<v Speaker 4>see those guys again, I would have said Michael Peterson

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<v Speaker 4>if he'd been in the squad, just because he's someone

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<v Speaker 4>that I've met on multiple occasions, as he was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the few players I met in the forlorn attempt

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<v Speaker 4>for the twenty two twenty twenty tournaments before everything was ruined.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Yeah, I think everybody. Before I forget, before Gaff

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<v Speaker 1>tells me off, everybody should definitely go to the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Gav's got some great content on there, including a player

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<v Speaker 1>by player profile, so if you want he detail on.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of you guys, he bled.

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<v Speaker 1>Gav has done incredible work and profile of each member

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<v Speaker 1>of this roster, So if you want to get any

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<v Speaker 1>more details, he's got it all. He's got videos in there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got little fun facts, it's the works. He's done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work on it, so definitely goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the website check it out. We'll obviously I have lots

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<v Speaker 1>more coming over the next few weeks as well on

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<v Speaker 1>the WBC. Gav Gave really loves this stuff and we

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<v Speaker 1>already appreciate his work, So do go and check it

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<v Speaker 1>all out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's genuinely, genuinely the best place you can find,

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<v Speaker 5>like the best summary of the team. You won't find

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<v Speaker 5>it anywhere else on the internet like that. It's yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a homer for for the website, but you cannot

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<v Speaker 5>find writing about GB baseball like what Gav has done

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<v Speaker 5>there that it is top notch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was half expecting when Rob was going to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the different players that like, here's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that I was going to go straight to

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<v Speaker 1>Rob with that. Yeah, that's the one. And what is

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<v Speaker 1>your familiarity with Gary gil Hill?

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<v Speaker 2>Gil for gil Hill? No, I have not seen gil

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<v Speaker 2>Hill play.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was a spring training invite last year,

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<v Speaker 5>and if he was, I missed him wearing a number

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<v Speaker 5>eighty six on his back or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I've not seen him at all, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is good to have the prospects in there. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>good for them. It's good for them.

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<v Speaker 5>Like this is people might actually watch some of this,

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<v Speaker 5>whereas you know, the eighth inning of a spring training

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<v Speaker 5>game against the White Sox ain't gonna happen. Not that

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<v Speaker 5>they would be playing the White Sox of course, because

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<v Speaker 5>it's a different league, but that's neither hi nor the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that at BP we have gil Hill

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth in the race system, which doesn't sound very high,

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<v Speaker 1>but as you'll know, the Race have a lot of prospects.

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<v Speaker 1>They usually have a pretty deep system. This year is

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<v Speaker 1>fourth startup, maybe mid rotation guy if he hits his upside.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a chance we could be looking back in

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<v Speaker 1>a few years and saying, hey, he was the best

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<v Speaker 1>picture on this ther BC team. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>within the realm of possibility. I mean, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>may well see him in a you know, two three

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<v Speaker 1>years time actually making up a significant role on a

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<v Speaker 1>I also have not seen him play, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>be good to see Russ. You've already sort of touched

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<v Speaker 1>on a bit of the pitching, but how do you

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<v Speaker 1>Who are we going to go to in the rotation

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<v Speaker 1>and do you have an idea of how that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to map out across the group game to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's an interesting one basically to be like, who

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<v Speaker 4>are actually going to be like the guys that are

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<v Speaker 4>the starters, Like there isn't a massively like standout like

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Settings is probably going to do reasonable amount. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that Tyler Vizard, Vance Walley will do that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think what you'll see from Team GB, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a bit more than some of the other teams, is

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<v Speaker 4>an approach where it's basically every inning matches the most

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<v Speaker 4>because they're effectively going to they're going to win as

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<v Speaker 4>many games as possible. But with basically International Baseball, you

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<v Speaker 4>kind of lose a game and it really scuffers you,

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<v Speaker 4>like no matter what it is. So they will be

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<v Speaker 4>waking to utilize their best players as and when they can,

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<v Speaker 4>like as much as possible, so you'll probably just see

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<v Speaker 4>two or three innings of anybody max before kind of

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<v Speaker 4>getting over to the next guy. A few of the

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<v Speaker 4>other teams with their top pitchers, there are limitations in

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<v Speaker 4>the WBC in the first few rounds of like sixty

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<v Speaker 4>five pitches as the maximum, and then it's like eighty

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<v Speaker 4>pitchers in the knockout rounds and like ninety pitches in

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<v Speaker 4>the final to just because we are in spring training,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't want teams don't want their players going out

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<v Speaker 4>and throwing and forty pitches in it in a shutout

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<v Speaker 4>because the manager of Team GB or Netherlands or Nick

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<v Speaker 4>or Agua wants to win this game more than like

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<v Speaker 4>deal with what's going to happen in the major leagues

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<v Speaker 4>next season. So in some regards, it doesn't matter that

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have the top arms because they can't be

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<v Speaker 4>used too much. But I think we'll definitely see like

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<v Speaker 4>a high Ton over with Team GB, being like, let's

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<v Speaker 4>just matched to the situation that we're in. Like, if

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<v Speaker 4>we think we've got our best guy up there right now, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>he'll continue for another inning. If we think we've got

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<v Speaker 4>a better option for this inning full of three players

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<v Speaker 4>that we're going to face, let's go to that basically

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<v Speaker 4>kind of pull that through. And so when you have

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<v Speaker 4>the variety that they do with having like the Beg Brothers,

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<v Speaker 4>with having Jack Anderson and a few of the others

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<v Speaker 4>were like we've already mentioned Gary Gailhill, like we still

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<v Speaker 4>have Donovan Benoir and have as Fernandez who took part

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<v Speaker 4>in like the previous tournament. So I do think that

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<v Speaker 4>you have, like there are names there aren't like there

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<v Speaker 4>aren't the rumored ones that we're talking about maybe in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, like Tristan McKenzie and a few others that

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<v Speaker 4>were potentially kind of MLB like quality starters, But they'll

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<v Speaker 4>do a good enough job and they'll basically put themselves

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<v Speaker 4>in a position to be competitive in most of those games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we saw last time that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had some experience with these types of tournaments, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was some set very sensible management of those games

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<v Speaker 1>gave us not only that win, but a very very

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<v Speaker 1>close game as well. We could easily have won a

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<v Speaker 1>second in that tournament. So be very interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how that plays out this time. I suppose we should

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<v Speaker 1>actually talk about what you're going to be doing with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and also what the schedule looks like for GB. So

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you will be making it to all these games?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you take us through what you've got planned?

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<v Speaker 1>And most importantly, you've already crossed the show Hay off

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Who's hand are you're going to be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to shake this time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That's yeah, that's the interesting one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>As we're recording this, probably all the time by anybody's

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<v Speaker 4>actually listening to this, I will already be on a

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<v Speaker 4>plane out to Houston and therefore all of the group games,

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<v Speaker 4>so luckily enough to have the press coverage for all

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<v Speaker 4>of the games. So I will basically be sat in

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<v Speaker 4>Daikon Stadium or Minute Made Park, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 4>call it, for about ten hours each day watching two

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<v Speaker 4>games of baseball and all of the jazz that goes

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<v Speaker 4>on before and after games. If it's anything like it

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<v Speaker 4>was that Arizona in Arizona last year, it'll be there

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<v Speaker 4>will be some highly amusing moments because the teams have

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<v Speaker 4>to basically wait for all the other people to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of the changing rooms before they can then go

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<v Speaker 4>into the changing rooms for their next game. So last year,

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<v Speaker 4>I was down waiting to go into the press room

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<v Speaker 4>to hear some of them, the manager speak and just

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<v Speaker 4>in the corridor chatting like they were mates, because they

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<v Speaker 4>obviously were, with the likes of like Mike Trout and

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<v Speaker 4>Rookie Betts, just having just like conversations. And you're just like, like,

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<v Speaker 3>We're not worthy, We're not worthy.

424
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<v Speaker 4>But there are moments in my head where are doing that,

425
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, we're We're lucky enough to coverage for this,

426
00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:24.400
<v Speaker 4>So I will be out there, will basically be speaking,

427
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<v Speaker 4>hopefully getting some time with some of the TEAMGB on

428
00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.559
<v Speaker 4>the March fifth to kind of give us a little

429
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<v Speaker 4>bit of a preview before the tournament actually gets underway,

430
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:38.880
<v Speaker 4>and then we'll be providing effectively hopefully pregame and postgame

431
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<v Speaker 4>coverage from the players, the coaches, and anything that happens.

432
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<v Speaker 3>Here for that whole entire journey.

433
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<v Speaker 4>And then once we've gone through the group stages and

434
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<v Speaker 4>the quarter finals that are in Houston, off to Miami

435
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<v Speaker 4>for another few days to watch the two the semi

436
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.559
<v Speaker 4>finals and final in Miami, and if those are anything

437
00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.240
<v Speaker 4>like the one that I saw in Miami last year,

438
00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.119
<v Speaker 4>I probably watched two or three of the best spawning

439
00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:10.039
<v Speaker 4>events I've ever seen live. The USA Venezuela game was

440
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:14.480
<v Speaker 4>frankly ridiculous, and that the ending moment of the last WBC,

441
00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.480
<v Speaker 4>which was scripted to high end, which I think the

442
00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.000
<v Speaker 4>only way it can switch around this time is if

443
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<v Speaker 4>you have Cherio Tani hitting something off like Paul Skians.

444
00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:25.839
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the only way that you can probably

445
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.519
<v Speaker 4>match that end moment. But yeah, it's going to be

446
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<v Speaker 4>an amazing two or three two and a half weeks

447
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.640
<v Speaker 4>to effectively just watching baseball.

448
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<v Speaker 5>So have you set yourself any goals for any special

449
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:44.039
<v Speaker 5>handshakes this time? I've got some suggestions, some targets for you.

450
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.799
<v Speaker 3>We've got the targets, then that's something we can work through.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've got three targets for three games.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll talk you through some of the interesting people

453
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<v Speaker 4>that I met last time around. Like obviously Adam Jones

454
00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:00.839
<v Speaker 4>was a good one that I met and had a

455
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<v Speaker 4>really nice chat with with last time around. Amusingly, I

456
00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 4>had a five minute conversation with Tony Clark last time around.

457
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.519
<v Speaker 4>But maybe that, oh, we won't get a chance to

458
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.960
<v Speaker 4>reprieve that one. Are you saying you have an inappropriate

459
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:17.440
<v Speaker 4>relationship with Tony Clark? Law, Well, i'll tell you all boys,

460
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Tony Clark makes me feel small.

461
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<v Speaker 2>So that's what she said.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've got the explicit tag on this one now.

463
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<v Speaker 4>No, I think the last time I was a little bit.

464
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<v Speaker 4>I was definitely almost a star struck with the press

465
00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.480
<v Speaker 4>as I was with the meeting, like John Morose and

466
00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Ken Rosenthal and Jeff Passon. Was a bit like these

467
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<v Speaker 4>are like these are summer bar but like superstars.

468
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<v Speaker 3>But on the player's side, I think.

469
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<v Speaker 4>If we're going for the big, the big ones, we've

470
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<v Speaker 4>got to be like it's gonna be out. We've got

471
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<v Speaker 4>either girl like Aaron Judge or I maybe somebody like

472
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<v Speaker 4>Fernando Tatis or or a Kunya if they make it

473
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<v Speaker 4>to those semi finals where I can actually, uh, you.

474
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<v Speaker 5>Can even bigger man, yeah, like the biggest man, like

475
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:13.319
<v Speaker 5>you thought the guy was big last year, like this

476
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 5>year the biggest man you can find.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's got to do that.

478
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 4>I've got to like feel small in the conversations and

479
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 4>see if I can work my way through. Last time, yeah,

480
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 4>the handshake with Otani was one of the funniest things

481
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<v Speaker 4>with the last time around, just in a huddled mass

482
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 4>of all of the press watching him take like his

483
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 4>VP and everybody just being in awe. And then these

484
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 4>two or three people standing beside me, like obviously know him,

485
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 4>call him across, and he starts starts shaking hands with

486
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<v Speaker 4>people and just continues to kind of like offer his

487
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.119
<v Speaker 4>hand to me because I'm stood next to these people,

488
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh, yes, next year.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I also I am a Japanese reporter.

490
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<v Speaker 5>Hello, yes, so yeah, I think time this time, I

491
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 5>think we need to say some target.

492
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who who we should get from Brazil because.

493
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.319
<v Speaker 5>They haven't got the like Yang Gomes does he still

494
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.799
<v Speaker 5>play there, Like that's the most famous Brazilian player I know.

495
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But I think let's go for Randy.

496
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 5>You gotta get a picture of Randy, surely a picture,

497
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 5>even if even if it's just a close background picture.

498
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<v Speaker 2>You gotta get some Randy action. Again, I'll maybe rephrase that,

499
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>so Randy, Randy.

500
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Gotta get on the pass watch, gotta get on the

501
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.799
<v Speaker 5>pass watch with Italy, gotta get something out of there.

502
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 5>You've got, You've got to go with with some passquatch

503
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 5>and then for for for the USA, which will be

504
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.880
<v Speaker 5>the hardest one. Just you've got to shake any cy

505
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 5>young hand, any hand, there's one of so young.

506
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Just got to touch that hand. You gotta get a

507
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>sy young hand in there.

508
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pictures will be a bit more difficult because they

509
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 4>do not hang around the bullpen area.

510
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Kursher is notoriously bothered when you when you interrupt his

511
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 1>free game preparations.

512
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Let's get published by Kershew. That would be That would

513
00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 5>be amazing, that would be the pinnacle.

514
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<v Speaker 1>It would be I'd love to say, Actually, I'm I'm

515
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 1>really interested to know if he's still just as serious

516
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>even though he's basically retired, if he still like approaches

517
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it exactly the same way. It's like, don't talk to me,

518
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting ready.

519
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 6>For the game.

520
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it will be highly amusing to see if any

521
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.920
<v Speaker 4>of those guys will will offer sel off themselves.

522
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Out mostly they were. Surely you can get Vinie on

523
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the on the pod. He seems like a personal chat.

524
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I reckon, we can get him.

525
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so.

526
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 4>Like the it was I think the most thing I've

527
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:34.680
<v Speaker 4>had most remarkable in the tournament last time around was

528
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 4>just like the different numbers of press for like the

529
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 4>different games we had. We're in USA's poop last time around,

530
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 4>so like anytime the USA were playing, the main press

531
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 4>spots was almost full, but like there was a little

532
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 4>bit of spots that I like I could sit in

533
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 4>when basically Team USA wasn't playing, Like you could go

534
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 4>sit wherever I want in the press box and kind

535
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 4>of effectively just find a front row seat and kind

536
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 4>of just just enjoy what was going on because it

537
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 4>wasn't allocated seeding, but also down on the field like

538
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 4>pre game it was like you had like a quarter

539
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 4>of the people there when it wasn't a USA game.

540
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 4>And then the madness of the number of Japanese like

541
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 4>reporters once were watching the japan games in Miami, it

542
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 4>was I there was so many people there. It's just

543
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.839
<v Speaker 4>unbelievable for kind of just to see those huddles and

544
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 4>to see the conversations. But yeah, I will, I'll do

545
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 4>my best to work with to work with that, I

546
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 4>think if we can. I'm trying to work on my

547
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 4>head being like, so, are there any Cleveland players that

548
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 4>I could mentally like be like, you know, they actually

549
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 4>support you? Dated, but then the one that I would

550
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 4>want to meet Jasi Ramiro even playing for the Dominican

551
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 4>because he feels that he's been slighted and was told

552
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that my name and charade would played the base ahead

553
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 4>of him.

554
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>So that feels a bit rough. Is that true?

555
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's all alleged at this point, I'm sure,

556
00:27:58.720 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>but yes, I've not heard.

557
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 4>That some cryptic messages that have been put out there

558
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 4>on Instagram by Jose effectively claiming that he's been slated.

559
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 4>I didn't say exactly why, but reading between the line, moved.

560
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

561
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 1>So I'll run through the actual schedule for the group.

562
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 1>If you're interested, you want to know when gb are playing.

563
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>They will be playing on March sixth at six pm.

564
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>That is the Mexico game. They are playing the USA

565
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and TERRK scuball of course at one am on March

566
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 1>the eighth, that's technically March the seventh in the US,

567
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 1>but obviously you know it's quite late. Then they're coming

568
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>straight back later that day in the UK and playing

569
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Italy at six o'clock, and then the next day they've

570
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>got Brazil, also at six pm. I will also add

571
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that there are a number of watch parties around the UK,

572
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 1>so a lot of the GB baseball clubs are getting

573
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>involved in this. They're putting things on So Manchester, Bristol, Exeter, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Newcastle,

574
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Guildford West Midlands Baseball League, which you know is in Dundee, Brackenhill,

575
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Preston and of course London. There are watch parties at

576
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 1>all of these locations. So there's more information on the

577
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.119
<v Speaker 1>British Baseball website that Christnal Blocks put out there for

578
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the specific venues for that. But there will be lots

579
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 1>of GB Baseball clubs hosting those parties. So if you

580
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>would like to go and watch with some fellow GB

581
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>baseball fans and you're near any of those locations, then

582
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>then do pop along. I'm sure it would be a

583
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 1>great time.

584
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 5>A million points to anyone who does Bracknell and Dundee

585
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 5>in the same day, like during the.

586
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 6>Do B game.

587
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, like Phil Collins during Live Aid, like you

588
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.119
<v Speaker 5>start start at the beginning of one and then you

589
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 5>get there for the end of the second one.

590
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, would you reckon?

591
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm go look up Bracknell to Dundee. Now I have

592
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 6>anything that would take that'll be.

593
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>The wrong kind of leaves on the track.

594
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>So don't you.

595
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Even if you can have your own personal helicopter like

596
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 4>flying you from one venue to the other. I'm not

597
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 4>certain you could do it in the time of one

598
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 4>baseball name.

599
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 6>No, I don't think so.

600
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Depend it's telling me six hours to do you have

601
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 4>extra Dundee there are extras yep, I'm seeing the twenty

602
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 4>one inning thriller against Brazil.

603
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>That's that's when to try it. I think it's going

604
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a challenge.

605
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 7>Rob.

606
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It says eight hours to drive up there, and the

607
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>London Dundee helicopters being advertised as an hour and fifty minutes,

608
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it still seems a bit slow.

609
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>You win a hat, I don't know. Have we got

610
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>a hat we can give someone?

611
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we probably have a hat.

612
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I think that.

613
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.440
<v Speaker 5>I think you're someone in Bracknell and Dundee, same game.

614
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 5>We will send them a hat, any hat. BRO will

615
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 5>buy you any hat of your chores.

616
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Probably just a flat cap.

617
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 6>If you can.

618
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Somehow make this eight hour car journey in the space

619
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 1>of three hours, we will definitely send you a hat.

620
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It okay, Well, I think we've we've covered off the

621
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>The GB preview Russ. Was there anything else you wanted

622
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 1>to add about your schedule or or the team in general. Yeah.

623
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just like it's one of these ones

624
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>where it's like they're I think what we're.

625
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Seeing your hill of all the time people talk about

626
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 4>like TMGB about this, like it's not like, oh, these

627
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 4>aren't British players, These aren't.

628
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 3>People who are like born and raised in the UK.

629
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And I just think that, like it's it's always important

630
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 4>to say that like this is this is what makes

631
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Britain Britain. I think this is what makes people. We're

632
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 4>constantly like redefining what it means to be to be British.

633
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 4>There are people who have reasons to be connected with

634
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 4>this country. And every time that these GB teams have

635
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 4>been pulled together in the last like five to ten years,

636
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 4>like the coaches, the whole system is they make sure

637
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 4>that everybody talks about the reason why they want aware

638
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 4>like that Jersey and why they want to kind of

639
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 4>like represent Great Britain from hearing it last time around,

640
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 4>talking to people like Anthony Seymour and talking to kind

641
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 4>of James Young from their Bahamian backgrounds kind of like

642
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 4>really understanding why they want to kind of like to do.

643
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 3>That is it's a great.

644
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Part of kind of like one actually this tournament and

645
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 4>this team gets to get to represent because we know

646
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 4>right now that we wouldn't have, like we don't have

647
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 4>a professional league in this country. This is something that

648
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be possible without the vagaries of the historical British Empire.

649
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 4>But it's it is great to basically see that there

650
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 4>are all these people that are wanting and willing to

651
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of like represent Great Britain and kind of be British.

652
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very cool to say all these these people

653
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 1>coming together, often from very diverse back, very different experiences

654
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 1>getting into baseball as well, I think myriad paths. I

655
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>think Gav covers us off quite well in his pretty

656
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>on the site about you know the different experiences some

657
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of these guys have had getting in from you know,

658
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>being the highly touted draftd or international signing to the

659
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>guy who's had to toil in the miners or not

660
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>even the miners in the inn these for years and

661
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>years until being you know, finally picked up on a

662
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of a you know, a very low low cost

663
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>deal from you know, the brewers or something to stick

664
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<v Speaker 1>in their minor league system. You know, it's a real

665
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 1>range of roots into baseball and it's it's really fun

666
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 1>to see all these players come together from a range

667
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>of countries and backgrounds. And yeah, I'm really excited. I

668
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be a great tournament. I think

669
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the hype after last time has definitely got up, and

670
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited not just CGB, but some of these other

671
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>really high class rosters that we talked about last time

672
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>coming together, and I think it's going to be a

673
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>real good fight at the top as well to see

674
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>who comes out as champion this time.

675
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think although like we'll be potentially like

676
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 4>realistic with like where we anticipate GB to finish in

677
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 4>this tournament, Like we do think that they are better

678
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 4>than the Brazilian team, and they'll have a tough match

679
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 4>against Italy, but that's kind of like that the other

680
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 4>the other two games are very difficult, and like if

681
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 4>they were to get something out of them, it would

682
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 4>be phenomenal and would drive like a massive growth like

683
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 4>in this sport, like anything that basically, if GB beats

684
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 4>the USA in a in a baseball game, that makes

685
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 4>like BBC sport like front page sort of stuff like

686
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 4>it is enough to basically be like the kind of

687
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 4>like the what's the Remember the Norwegian football commentator.

688
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 3>And he was just like Margaret Thatcher Winston, your boys

689
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 3>took one hell o the beating.

690
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 4>That's like if I when I write that up, that

691
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 4>is exactly what like the first the first paragraph of that,

692
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be gonna be Ronald Reagan, George Washington, Donald Trump,

693
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.039
<v Speaker 4>your boys took one hell of a beat.

694
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Avery's notoriously overright by Brace, as we've often said on

695
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 1>this podcast.

696
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but the team, the team is going out there

697
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 4>to compete and to win all of their games. They're

698
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 4>not going out there to be like we just want

699
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 4>to win one game and make sure we're qualified. Like

700
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 4>that qualification is now the minimum expectation right to be

701
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 4>set in this position where they can work the way

702
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 4>they have in the last two to three years to

703
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 4>be in a good position to actually kind of be

704
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 4>prepared for the next tournament. In a lot of reasons

705
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 4>you'll see with the chat with Gary that will put

706
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 4>on the end of this is that there's still the

707
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 4>potential of a qualification for Olympic Games and funding around

708
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 4>that out there, because in twenty twenty eight there will

709
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 4>be baseball in the Olympics and there's only six teams

710
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 4>in that tournament, and one of them will be a

711
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 4>European team. So qualification and how that goes makes a

712
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 4>massive difference. And in this country getting money into a sport,

713
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 4>if it's an Olympic sport, it's a lot easier to

714
00:35:59.480 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 4>get money.

715
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely a lot, a lot more riding on this

716
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.599
<v Speaker 1>than just how we do in the tournament. So I

717
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be really every time we see

718
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the profile go up, don't we. I think so some

719
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>of these these other eyes against some of these really

720
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>high profile teams playing the USA is a great opportunity,

721
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 1>I think. And yes, Derek Scruble is quite good, but

722
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to throw like forty pictures, right, So

723
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 1>it's fine.

724
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh, maximum, we can throw it sixty five.

725
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 4>So get up there and start fouling them off, boys

726
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 4>and ross.

727
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>This is the answer upside down lineups.

728
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Like it's generally like, it's not like it's not that

729
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 4>much of an unknown thing in international baseball role there

730
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 4>have been definitely times when people have like messed with

731
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 4>messed with lineups to basically try and work counts.

732
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And there's not fully stupid, then no, it's not he

733
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>talking that one of us a win.

734
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when are you getting on the plane to

735
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 1>join russ as the GB's official tactician. Is that that

736
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 1>happening now?

737
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 3>And the resume ever to Gary if you want.

738
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Send them all the research you did on roy Utah

739
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're really impressed with Yeah, you'll see that.

740
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I've got the pictures of uniforms and everything.

741
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 3>That's one thing we haven't discussed.

742
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Have you. Have we seen the new fresh teas that

743
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 4>they're they are that are wearing this year that hopefully

744
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 4>the tea will stay on the shirt.

745
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I have seen them.

746
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've I've been looking at I've been looking at

747
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 1>GB Baseball's twitter feed. There's quite a lot of of

748
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>shots of all the guys wearing the uniforms. Actually, I

749
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 1>think we can.

750
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 5>Line all the letters up better than the Red Sox

751
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 5>did on a very similar uniform.

752
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's, you know, one better than them.

753
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 1>These are these are Nike rather than fanatics, aren't they?

754
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 6>Well?

755
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 3>The Red Sox admitted that they were the ones that

756
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>were responsible for the what they told phonetics to do,

757
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 3>which are then just like, wait, so you told them

758
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 3>to make it like just poor quality. There's so much

759
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 3>are gonna be said about like these fanatics jerseys and

760
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>what we've got compared to what we used to get

761
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 3>with Majestic. It's just it is just a shame that

762
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 3>like this is this is the quality that we have

763
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.840
<v Speaker 3>now compared to like what used to exist before.

764
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well we are optimistic that no letters fall off

765
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the GB uniforms. Yeah, if you are watching the video version,

766
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 1>you can now see Rob holding up a picture of

767
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>on his iPad.

768
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to win the base bar.

769
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 4>And hopefully this time around they'll actually be GB much

770
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 4>in the in the in the MLB store, in the

771
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 4>store inside the Houston Stadium. Last time there wasn't because

772
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 4>everything was had to be so quickly rushed because they

773
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.559
<v Speaker 4>were a qualifier and basically didn't get the chance to

774
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 4>use some of the logos that they wanted because they

775
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't have the right copyright rules.

776
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 5>To was clearly ironing on his own words. So you know,

777
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.400
<v Speaker 5>this time things crossed. So anyone who wants st a thing, yeah,

778
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 5>orders him with Russell Now.

779
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well yeah, I'm taking a suitcase that we'll have

780
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>definitely have some space in it. Don't know how much

781
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm we'll we'll fill it with things along the way,

782
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 4>but some baseball gear being brought back.

783
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I will say.

784
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>The good news is that GB are currently no hitting

785
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the Brewers. The bad news is that Brewers pitcher Dl

786
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Hall is currently pitching for US, will not will not

787
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>be on our roster. The quirks of these exhibition games

788
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>so regressively, deal former former top prospect Deal Hall, is

789
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 1>not going to be joining us for the actual tournament.

790
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 1>But it's going well. It's a good sign. We've scored

791
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a run.

792
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was watching it through and it's one of

793
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 4>those weird things where you're just like, so Harry Ford

794
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 4>came out and then he pinched it for him.

795
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Back forward for himself.

796
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 4>So what you can do is in the spring training

797
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 4>or not even spring training.

798
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Will send some raal suggestions to to Manfred just to

799
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 1>do this and there regular season.

800
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 6>I will love that.

801
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 4>I just sometimes love the names that are in baseball

802
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 4>where you're just like Jesus made lines out to Jazz

803
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Chisholm Jr.

804
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 3>It's just like you just get quite compute what's being

805
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 3>said here.

806
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 1>You don't get this any other sport. Okay, well, I

807
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap us up there, because

808
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this podcast is not done. Russ. You have spoken to

809
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Gary Anderson, haven't you. And you've got a separate chat

810
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>for us which you conducted a little while ago, so

811
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>we will tag that onto the end of this podcast.

812
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>But can you give us a quick quick preview of

813
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>what you talked to Gary about to what the appetite?

814
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a bit about Gary's background and why him is

815
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 4>like the performance director Britty has kind of like helped

816
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 4>GB move to backs next level. He's worked with like

817
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 4>in the FA and like Team Bob's and Team GB

818
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 4>bob sleds like in the past to kind of like

819
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 4>to pull that through a bit of how this season

820
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>this time around has been different, what approaches they've kind

821
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 4>of set up and what kind of what is their aim?

822
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.199
<v Speaker 3>How do we get an Olympic medal in baseball?

823
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>All very promising stuff. I look forward to hearing it

824
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>along with the rest of you. Thank you both for

825
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>joining us. I'm sure we will be back soon with

826
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>more WBC content as well as an idea rob that

827
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you put out I think about three months ago, now

828
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that we still haven't done what we keep saying we're

829
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 1>going to do, which is to recap the off season

830
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 1>in the order of the most boring moves. So yeah,

831
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll get to that soon, along with what I

832
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 1>expect to be a preview of Team GB's triumphant WBC run.

833
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 1>So that's all to come all to look forward to.

834
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us, and over to Russell's Into

835
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 1>You with Gary Anderson.

836
00:41:38.280 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 4>You don't do links often, however, and welcome to Bablpton Nerds,

837
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 4>the Baseball podcast with the British Twist. I am your

838
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 4>host today, Russell Lisam. I'm not joined by any of

839
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 4>my other crew, but that's because I have the amazing

840
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to interview someone who has a lot to do

841
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 4>with the British national team. I'm delighted to be with

842
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Gary Anderson today. He is the Director of Performance or

843
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 4>Head of Performance, I can never remember which one it

844
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 4>actually is for Baseball soft for the UK and the BBF.

845
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 4>A native of what for a longtime supporter of What

846
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 4>what FC, he's been had the reputation for transforming i

847
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 4>would say underdog profrograms into world class organizations. What he

848
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 4>did with the British Popsley team getting a retrospective bronze

849
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 4>medal back in twenty fourteen. We'll probably talk about that

850
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 4>and some of his greater work with the FA as

851
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 4>well since joining baseball in twenty twenty two, and this

852
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 4>has been the focus behind a great Britain's historic ascent

853
00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 4>into the world rankings.

854
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 3>Gary, thank you for joining us today. How are we doing?

855
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm doing okay. Thanks for Russel and what an introduction.

856
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 7>I think it's I've been parachute into places because there's

857
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 7>been problems and I've been asked to sort them out.

858
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 7>But certainly with baseball, I've fallen in love with it.

859
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 7>And normally, once I've got things going well, I usually

860
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 7>move on to the next project, but it seems that

861
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.079
<v Speaker 7>I'm stuck with this one and it's fantastic.

862
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

863
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 4>So I'm in reviewing kind of what you've done in

864
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 4>the past and seeing somehow people have talked about you

865
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 4>and you've been on with the podcast with some of

866
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 4>the other guys before in the past, because I see

867
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 4>you as like this performance architect, but it's kind of

868
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 4>like you've never like stock to just want sports. You've

869
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>won a FIFA fair Player award, I said, the bronze

870
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 4>medal with the bobsley team, Like, what's kind of like

871
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 4>the universal truths of high performance? That will kind of

872
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 4>like you brought into like this GP role. That's kind

873
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 4>of like the Gary Anderson view on kind of like

874
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 4>high performance.

875
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

876
00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 7>I have a philosophy on performance is that whatever sport

877
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 7>you go into, it's at the top level, it's not

878
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 7>about teaching people the technical basics of that sport. It's

879
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 7>about putting together a team around a team that can

880
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 7>support that performance process. And my philosophy has always been

881
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 7>is that, you know, the it's not my job to

882
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 7>teach someone to hit a ball or to pitch a ball.

883
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 7>It's to make sure that they turn up on time,

884
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 7>that all the coaches have everything they need in order

885
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 7>to execute that performance.

886
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 6>And you know, it's it's almost like I guess.

887
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 7>Conducting an orchestra, you know, with having all those instruments,

888
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 7>having all those talented musicians, but ensuring that they know

889
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 7>when to play their instrument and what beat. And that's

890
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 7>what I enjoy doing. It's certainly I've carved a career

891
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 7>out of it, and you know, it's something that I'm

892
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 7>passionate about You know, I'm passionate about my performance sport

893
00:44:58.800 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 7>and I love when it.

894
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel it very interesting. Like looking through your career,

895
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 4>you talked about the fact that, like you've tried and

896
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 4>failed to retire, Yes, especially before taking this role. I

897
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 4>guess the question is what was the specifics of like

898
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 4>the Great British Baseball puzzle that drew you back in

899
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 4>from you from from that sweet retired life.

900
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 7>I'm looking forward to that day that I do retire,

901
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 7>but it's it's looking like it's going to be way

902
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 7>beyond their lay now.

903
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 6>It's I I had.

904
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 7>Retired up until this job came up and I was working.

905
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 7>I haven't retired. I don't think I'll ever retire. I

906
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 7>think that I'll always do some sort of work. I

907
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 7>can't ever see myself sitting at home watching homes under

908
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 7>the hammer and enjoying my life in a company arm chair.

909
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 6>That's not me.

910
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 7>I would always be involved in sport in some way,

911
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 7>and as I'm getting older that is more and more

912
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 7>the administrative side of things, and I had retired from.

913
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 7>I've been working through the COVID period, working in professional

914
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 7>rugby and professional football and helping you know, very successful

915
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 7>teams navigate that very difficult time and then return to play.

916
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 6>And I always described it.

917
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 7>I never experienced COVID like everybody else did because I

918
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 7>went to work every single day, you know, because your

919
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 7>elite sport continued, albeit in a very strange way. But

920
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 7>I still got in my car and drove to work

921
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 7>every day because it was my job to make sure

922
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 7>that all these regulations were visire to and that you know,

923
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 7>elite athletes had the opportunity to train. So I was

924
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 7>working through that, and trust me, Russell, at the end

925
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 7>of that, I was ready to retire because it was

926
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 7>nobody knew how to do it. We didn't know what

927
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 7>we were doing, whether we were doing it right or wrong.

928
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 7>But it was a hard time. And at the end

929
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 7>of that, I thought, you know what, that's it.

930
00:46:58.960 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 6>You know that, you know.

931
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 7>And then the Tokyo Olympics got moved by a year

932
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 7>and I started doing some work for karate, for the

933
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 7>international karate scene and making sure that, you know, the

934
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 7>high performance system within karate was fit for taking place

935
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 7>in Tokyo post COVID, And this job came up with

936
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 7>Baseball Softball UK and I saw it and I thought

937
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 7>nothing of it. I thought, that's you know, that's the

938
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 7>last thing I want to be doing now, is I

939
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 7>want to be maybe doing a consultancy job somewhere rather

940
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 7>than going back to be a performance director. I done

941
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 7>that for so many years I didn't fancy doing it again.

942
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 7>But then a very good friend of mine, who at

943
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 7>the time was the head at the British Olympic Association,

944
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.719
<v Speaker 7>Mike Haye, pointed out to me that this job was

945
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.079
<v Speaker 7>going and he said, it's right up your street. He

946
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 7>said that two sports, baseball and softball, both are sort

947
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 7>of underperforming and with huge potential all and with the

948
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles gains on the horizon, he said it it

949
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.880
<v Speaker 7>just fits you to go in there and put an

950
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 7>Olympic system in place. And when I looked at it, Russell,

951
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 7>it was uncanny. The situation was very very similar to

952
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 7>when I moved into bob slid. Very similar, same characters,

953
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 7>same issues, two sports that weren't really talking to each

954
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 7>other but had very similar needs. In bob sleay it

955
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 7>was bobsley and skeleton, you know, to what are now

956
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 7>very successful sports as we are seeing in the land

957
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 7>Cortina at the moment that didn't talk to each other.

958
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.039
<v Speaker 7>But had the same need, need the same resource. And

959
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 7>it was good work in that area putting those two

960
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 7>sports together. And I saw the same with baseball and stockball,

961
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 7>and I thought, do you know what I will?

962
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, have a look at this. It was a

963
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 6>funny story.

964
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 7>I was interviewed for the role six times. Official interviews

965
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 7>I went through and I couldn't believe it the amount

966
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 7>of times I had to be interviewed for a role

967
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 7>which I didn't particularly want at the time anyway, But

968
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 7>I went through it and more and more.

969
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 6>I was learning about it the more and more that

970
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 6>I wanted it.

971
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 7>And it was when I met with Drew Spencer that

972
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 7>finally convinced me that, you know what, this is what

973
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 7>I want to be involved in.

974
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, after.

975
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 7>The interviews, I spent some time with Drew before I

976
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 7>decided to take the role, and it was Drew that

977
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 7>convinced me that this was me.

978
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's amazing to hear.

979
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 4>In your book The Winner's Mindset, you talk about like

980
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 4>performance planning when you first arrived with this role. When

981
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 4>you took it, was that the first like cultural pillar

982
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 4>that you felt need to be installed before like results

983
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 4>could follow.

984
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Ors. There's something else that you decided this is what

985
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I need to do. First, I think it.

986
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 7>Was getting people to understand what could be achieved, what

987
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 7>the potention of was. I'm not sure many people in

988
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 7>baseball knew about the Olympic Games, and not necessarily the

989
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 7>inmp Games, but the process of qualing fire Olympic Games

990
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.400
<v Speaker 7>and running a program and receiving funding to run a program,

991
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, rather than begborrow stealing money from everywhere to

992
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 7>ensure that a national team could go somewhere and players

993
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 7>put in hands in pockets and you know, but don't

994
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 7>get me wrong, ru We're a long way from being

995
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 7>able to fund everything that we are a lot closer

996
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 7>to what I recognized as a full time professional program.

997
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 7>And it was put in that in place of people

998
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 7>understanding what could be achieved and then identifying a appropriate

999
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 7>performance pathway, highlighting competitions that we believed we could win,

1000
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 7>and then putting together a plan for that. And when

1001
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.239
<v Speaker 7>Drew was imposed, that was easy because Drew got it.

1002
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 7>Drew knew exactly what he wanted and working alongside him

1003
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.559
<v Speaker 7>with the age group teams were very good coaches and

1004
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 7>Jonathan Craman, who's gone on now to work in professional

1005
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 7>baseball and guide the under twenty threes to a gold medal.

1006
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 7>Having people like that in the program, it was quite

1007
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 7>easy to sell the performance concept of which is my

1008
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 7>philosophy and what I hope is when I leave baseball

1009
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 7>and softball, which I will do one day, it's the

1010
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 7>legacy I want to leave is an understanding of you know,

1011
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 7>what people can achieve if they really really wanted to,

1012
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 7>what they can achieve. And I think that was the

1013
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 7>first pillar that had to go in place, is that

1014
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 7>you know what, this can be us? And we are

1015
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 7>as saying if not us, if not us, why you know,

1016
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 7>why not GB? You know why can't it be GB

1017
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 7>doing this?

1018
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, speaking to Drew and Lillam and Jonathan all the time,

1019
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 4>the phrase they always say is that you can get

1020
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 4>there from here. I think is the is a big

1021
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 4>attitude that they have shown that to to some people

1022
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 4>within the playing world, within in this country. They didn't

1023
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 4>think it was even like a possibility, and so that's

1024
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 4>like a great thing. So let's get them done more

1025
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 4>into the kind of like the GB. It may be

1026
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 4>too much to say, but Garrey, you're part of the

1027
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 4>people who have put like the great in Great Britain,

1028
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 4>and when it comes to baseball, like recently we've had

1029
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 4>a pretty large momentum shift.

1030
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 3>From being a maybe team, a nearly team.

1031
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.280
<v Speaker 4>On the international scene to now being a top twenty

1032
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 4>ranked program. We have talented players playing at the major

1033
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 4>league level. Like, has there been a system that you've

1034
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 4>introduced or was already kind of there that helped us

1035
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of constantly punch a little bit above what would

1036
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 4>be traditionally regarded as like the powerhouses of baseball.

1037
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:50.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it's and thank you for saying that, And yeah,

1038
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 7>I am a small cog in a very big machine

1039
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 7>that does this, and I'm hoping that I I, yeah,

1040
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 7>I contribute a little bit to that. I think it's

1041
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.320
<v Speaker 7>in suring that the head coach has what they need

1042
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 7>to do the job, you know, and then supporting that

1043
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 7>head coach and making those decisions because as you know,

1044
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 7>it's the head coach.

1045
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 6>You know, in most people eyes is never right.

1046
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 7>You know, there's always you know, you own in the

1047
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 7>pub and you can pick a much better team than anybody.

1048
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:18.880
<v Speaker 6>We all do it.

1049
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 7>I do it with with my biloved Watford. You know,

1050
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 7>I can pick the best Watford team ever, you know,

1051
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:26.159
<v Speaker 7>but do you know what, I'm never going to be

1052
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 7>wrong with that because my team is never going to

1053
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 7>be tested, all right, So I can pick that team

1054
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 7>and it's never gonna be tested. When our head coach

1055
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 7>Brad Marcelina picks a team at the moment, he's going

1056
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 7>to be tested every single time that's that scene takes

1057
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 7>the field.

1058
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 6>So I think what I would like to think that.

1059
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 7>I do is put that you know, the arms around

1060
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 7>but fingers out philosophy with him. That I put my

1061
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 7>arms around and support him with his selection decisions and

1062
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:55.599
<v Speaker 7>what he wants to do, but I keep my fingers

1063
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.239
<v Speaker 7>well out of the technical and tactical decisions.

1064
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we we kind of were now in a

1065
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 4>position where GB is I think players are maybe coming

1066
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 4>to you guys instead of like having to like go

1067
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 4>find players. It feels like it's now in a much

1068
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of like healthier position to finding that sort of talent.

1069
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1070
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we're much more visible, the program is much more

1071
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 7>visible on the world stage. For this World Baseball Classic.

1072
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 7>We didn't have to go knocking on players' doors this

1073
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 7>time round. Okay, they were ringing al bell whereas I

1074
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 7>remember for the qualifier in Reagensburg with Drew. We were

1075
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 7>ringing people up asking you know, is it true that

1076
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 7>you know you're ellergible to represent Great Britain.

1077
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.119
<v Speaker 6>This time round we didn't have to do that.

1078
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 7>People know about Great Britain now and they were coming

1079
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 7>to us to say that they have a British passport

1080
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.599
<v Speaker 7>or or they are entitled to a British passport. So

1081
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 7>it was very very different this time round. So I

1082
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.880
<v Speaker 7>think it's attractive to play for Great Britain now, you know.

1083
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 7>You know, we we were pre qualified for the World

1084
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 7>Baseball Classic. People knew three years out we were going

1085
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 7>to be in this edition of the World Baseball Classic,

1086
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 7>so players had had enough time to work out that

1087
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 7>they wanted to be in this event and contact us.

1088
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 7>So selections this time round was very very different.

1089
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I say I had to learn a different

1090
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 4>set of skills around kind of actually determining people's eligibility

1091
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 4>compared to how it was before.

1092
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this time round it's been tightened up as well.

1093
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 7>The I think that that's to do with the Olympics.

1094
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 7>You know, the Olympic qualification points up for grabs, and

1095
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 7>so you know, it's I think it's a lot tighter

1096
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.039
<v Speaker 7>now that you know, for now there has to be

1097
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.159
<v Speaker 7>a route for eligibility through the parental route. You know

1098
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 7>you can no longer go back beyond that. So you know,

1099
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 7>to play for Great Britain now you have to have

1100
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:58.039
<v Speaker 7>eligibility by parents to be a UK citizen or be

1101
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 7>applied for a UK passport. The only difference is in

1102
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 7>the Olympic Games you have to physically hold that passport.

1103
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 7>In the World Baseball Classic, you have to be eligible

1104
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 7>to hold that passport, and you know that you don't have.

1105
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 6>To go through the physical process in obtaining one. Yeah.

1106
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, in terms of our debt a chart and

1107
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 7>the players that were on that, it was you know,

1108
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 7>we didn't have to go ringing around and knocking on

1109
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 7>their door and saying, you know, do you want to

1110
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:28.280
<v Speaker 7>play for Great Britain.

1111
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 6>You know that didn't happen this time.

1112
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so as you said that you were qualified

1113
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 4>for this twenty twenty sixth tournament, not having to search

1114
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 4>for players the same way, it was probably one of

1115
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 4>the elements. But how much difference has there been in

1116
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 4>this basically build up to this tournament because you've known

1117
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 4>for three years that you are going to participate in

1118
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.519
<v Speaker 4>this tournament and not have to win a qualifier six

1119
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.920
<v Speaker 4>months beforehand and then put all of your efforts through

1120
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:57.320
<v Speaker 4>that and then have to put all of your efforts

1121
00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 4>in the next six months to what you're actually going

1122
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 4>to do in the tournament.

1123
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was almost too long. I think it's there's

1124
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 7>not many sports that you know three years out that

1125
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 7>you're qualified for. You know, in other sports there's usually

1126
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 7>a qualification event for everybody, or you know, if you're

1127
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 7>the holder, you might get automatic entry.

1128
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 6>But you know, you look at the FIFA Worlds up

1129
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 6>in football.

1130
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.159
<v Speaker 7>You know, you only know a year out that you're

1131
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 7>definitely going. We knew three years out, and that was

1132
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 7>a lot of time to think about it. Okay, we

1133
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 7>didn't know where we were going, but we were you

1134
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.199
<v Speaker 7>we were going somewhere, and it was.

1135
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 6>It was a luxury.

1136
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 7>But we also had to make sure that we still

1137
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:42.400
<v Speaker 7>had that urgency.

1138
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1139
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 7>We didn't sit back and say, oh, we've got three

1140
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:47.800
<v Speaker 7>years for that. You know, there was always going to

1141
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 7>be the urgency, but we did. We created our own

1142
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 7>urgency by Drew Beying so successful and going and decided

1143
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 7>to work full time for the New York yank does,

1144
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:03.280
<v Speaker 7>so we created our own urgency there by then having

1145
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 7>to recruit in Brad Marcelino, who only had a year

1146
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 7>to prepare, So we created our own urgency there.

1147
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But obviously in between we've had the European Championships

1148
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:16.440
<v Speaker 4>that have come up, all the times we've had the

1149
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 4>under twenty threes to go through that system as well.

1150
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 6>Did you have any kind.

1151
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Of clear steps along the way from the performance in

1152
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:26.280
<v Speaker 4>those tournaments that were leading towards kind of like how

1153
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:28.039
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to perform like in the WBC.

1154
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we knew that there were going to be investment

1155
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 7>triggers and we had to highlight certain competitions to UK

1156
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 7>sport that we had to perform at in order to

1157
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:43.639
<v Speaker 7>receive the amount of investment that we now do. And

1158
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 7>we targeted those events and they were the Under twenty

1159
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 7>three Europeans, the Under three World Cup qualification, and the

1160
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 7>Senior Europeans and up until the last Senior Europeans, which

1161
00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:00.039
<v Speaker 7>were a little bit of an anomaly because we're we

1162
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 7>had target the world but it wasn't a nominated competition

1163
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 7>for us. The World Baseball Classic was our nominated competition

1164
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 7>that's coming up, But we the ones Europeans where we

1165
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 7>meddled at it were the Europeans we chose as our

1166
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 7>target events, our milestone events. You know, we would we

1167
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.719
<v Speaker 7>went to win the last Europeans. Don't get me wrong,

1168
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 7>We didn't think it didn't matter. We went to win,

1169
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:32.159
<v Speaker 7>but we always had one eye on the Premier twelve

1170
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:38.239
<v Speaker 7>and the World Baseball Classic. We knew fairly fairly certain

1171
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 7>that we were going to be in the qualifier from

1172
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.800
<v Speaker 7>the Premier tworld. We knew that because we knew it

1173
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.480
<v Speaker 7>was going to sixteen teams and we knew that it

1174
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 7>was quite lightly we would be in that playoff bracket,

1175
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, to qualify for the Premier twelve. So we said, right,

1176
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 7>the target is going to be the World Baseball Classic,

1177
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 7>and that's what we said, that would be our milestone

1178
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 7>had event. Yeah, no one's saying that we're going to

1179
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 7>go to the World Baseball Classic and win it. I

1180
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 7>am a bit of a realist and know that that's

1181
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.280
<v Speaker 7>you know, highly unlikely. But what we can do is

1182
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 7>go there and try and go one better than last time.

1183
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 7>So at each stage of the process there Russell, we've

1184
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 7>had a targeted event, a milestone event where we tested

1185
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.719
<v Speaker 7>everything that we know that we've learned so far on

1186
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 7>this trajectory, and yeah, we're going to we're going to

1187
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.440
<v Speaker 7>put all of that into play at the World Baseball Classic. No,

1188
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.119
<v Speaker 7>that's really interesting to hear. Yeah, would if it makes sense.

1189
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.800
<v Speaker 7>If it makes sense, I think it does.

1190
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 4>In part I would I would be interested to know

1191
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 4>if the European Championship just gone. It was a very

1192
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 4>youthful team that took part, given the fact that it

1193
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe it wasn't one of your targeted events, which were

1194
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 4>I think you, if I'm right, would say actually directly

1195
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.320
<v Speaker 4>linked like funding. Were you using that event more as

1196
01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 4>a preparing people for future events than necessarily kind of

1197
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.360
<v Speaker 4>going out with the explicit aim of like putting like

1198
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 4>our best players on the field.

1199
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we we fielded a strong team, though, Yeah, we

1200
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 7>we did underperform. We put we should have done better

1201
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 7>than what we did. And everybody knows that we had

1202
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 7>a lot of things that were knew at that event.

1203
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 6>It was Brad's first competition in.

1204
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 7>Charge, and there we tried a few new things out

1205
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:28.280
<v Speaker 7>and there were players that weren't available to us for

1206
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.599
<v Speaker 7>whatever reason. But you're right with that. We know that

1207
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 7>we you know, that's never an excuse not to win something.

1208
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 7>And we went to the Europeans thinking that we were

1209
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 7>good enough still to be in the medal zone. And

1210
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 7>when I say medal zone, that's being the last four.

1211
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, once you get to the semi finals of

1212
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 7>any competition, anything can happen. So you know, Icler call

1213
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:51.639
<v Speaker 7>it medal zone and that's the last four of a competition.

1214
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 7>We didn't do that. One result could have changed that,

1215
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.880
<v Speaker 7>but and we didn't do it. But you know, we

1216
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.719
<v Speaker 7>learned a hell of a lot from that adition. We

1217
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.039
<v Speaker 7>learned a hell of a lot, and I think for Brad,

1218
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.920
<v Speaker 7>but Brad, it was a great learning process.

1219
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:09.800
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, that's interesting, see because obviously that you guys

1220
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 4>are now learning through the tournament, Brad's gott to learn

1221
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.199
<v Speaker 4>through how to kind of like seer the ship as well.

1222
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 4>Do you feel that other nations in the tournament will

1223
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:23.559
<v Speaker 4>treat you guys differently now that you're not necessarily like

1224
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the happy, go lucky minnow that's kind of made their

1225
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 4>way into the into the tournament.

1226
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:30.280
<v Speaker 6>Oh absolutely.

1227
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 7>I was provely to attend the MLB Winter meetings with

1228
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 7>bradsher and we met the other nations that were competing.

1229
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 7>We met the head coaches, the performance director of the

1230
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:46.079
<v Speaker 7>sporting directors of the other nations, and the reception we

1231
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 7>got was very different to the reception that we got previously.

1232
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 7>I think people now know that with the roster that

1233
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 7>great Britain offendord that you know, we're going to be a.

1234
01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 6>Match for people.

1235
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's they're going to have to watch us

1236
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 7>and scout us like we are scouting everybody else.

1237
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:05.639
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1238
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 7>It's I think there are still some guides I think

1239
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 7>where it's a gibbon when we play them.

1240
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 6>I think that that's natural.

1241
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 7>But I you know, there are teams within our group

1242
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 7>that I think that we can be and I think

1243
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 7>that there are others that we could shock, and that's

1244
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 7>what we intend to do.

1245
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1246
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 4>I still remember Trace Thompson's home run at the start

1247
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:33.239
<v Speaker 4>of the game against the USA, which kind of quieted

1248
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.000
<v Speaker 4>that stadium a little bit, as I don't think many

1249
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:39.079
<v Speaker 4>of them were quite prepared for gb to even stand

1250
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:40.280
<v Speaker 4>a chance in that game.

1251
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, let's go a little bit more into the

1252
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty sixteen.

1253
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, like the rosters have been announced, it is a

1254
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 4>fairly complex process which has most of it has to

1255
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:51.039
<v Speaker 4>be kept.

1256
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Under lock and key. Is a bit of that.

1257
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.199
<v Speaker 4>Directed from like the tournament or is more of that Actually,

1258
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.280
<v Speaker 4>you kind of don't want to know what your opposition

1259
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 4>know what you're roster is because then they have more

1260
01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 4>time to prepare.

1261
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and now it's all announced and everybody can see

1262
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 7>people's pen pictures and their names and all their stats,

1263
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 7>and you know your sport and I call it your

1264
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 7>sport with a baseball sport, I'm fascinated by the data

1265
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.920
<v Speaker 7>that that's the sport generates, you know, it's it's driven

1266
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 7>by numbers, and it's fantastic.

1267
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.639
<v Speaker 6>I love reading it. I love learning.

1268
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.119
<v Speaker 7>About it, you know. And the scouting process is something

1269
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 7>that fascinates me. You know.

1270
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<v Speaker 6>Even at European Championship level, we scout.

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<v Speaker 7>Our scouting network is tremendous, you know, and I can

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<v Speaker 7>sit for hours in those meetings and listen to what

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01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.000
<v Speaker 7>those scouts are saying, and when the game starts, I

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<v Speaker 7>remember what they said. I'm looking for it to see

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01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.559
<v Speaker 7>if it's going to happen. But I think that the

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01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 7>rosters are out there now, everybody can see who's picked.

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<v Speaker 7>Two there's still one or two things that are still

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01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 7>to be finalized with one or two players. So I

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01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 7>think it's going to be some players in some nations

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01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 7>will drop out and there's some others come in.

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01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 6>But people would see.

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01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:10.320
<v Speaker 7>Who's on show now, and I think that.

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01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:10.400
<v Speaker 6>That gets everybody excited.

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01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 7>But it's one off games, and scouting in for a season,

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01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:20.000
<v Speaker 7>a league season is very very different and scouting for

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01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:25.199
<v Speaker 7>knockout International Baseball. Yeah yeah, because you've it's one off

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01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 7>games and that you might only face that team once

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01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 7>and you might only face one, two, three pitchers.

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01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's.

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01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.400
<v Speaker 7>Very difficult for anybody to scout anybody that accurately.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's interesting to see. Obviously, the GV team are

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01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 4>playing in Houston. Playing in the US, I think it's

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01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 4>fair to say that that it allows you to have

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01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 4>a stronger team than if you would potentially be playing Japan.

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01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I think the MLB teams are more willing to kind

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01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:59.159
<v Speaker 4>of let their players during spring training come and perform

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01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.320
<v Speaker 4>there than going out in Japan. Is that a correct assumption?

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<v Speaker 6>I think so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, We've only ever played in the US, so we

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01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.880
<v Speaker 7>can only go on what we experience. I was at

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01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.679
<v Speaker 7>the WBSC Congress last week and I was speaking to

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01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:20.519
<v Speaker 7>the chech guys there, and whilst they don't have many

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01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.880
<v Speaker 7>big leaguers playing for them, you know, traveling to Tokyo

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01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 7>to Japan is you know, it's not as simple as

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01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.800
<v Speaker 7>some might think. You know, they have restrictions on them

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01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 7>as well, and I think that it does have benefits

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01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 7>being in the US. Certainly teams would be more Certainly

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01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:40.320
<v Speaker 7>if I was an owner of a Major League team,

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01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.559
<v Speaker 7>I'd be more inclined to let a player go and

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01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:45.599
<v Speaker 7>play up the road rather than halfway around the world. Yeah,

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01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 7>because you know, at least you've gon keep track of

1312
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.360
<v Speaker 7>them and you know where they are. Anything goes wrong,

1313
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 7>they're straight back to their own their home team. One

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01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.000
<v Speaker 7>thing I have noticed this time around as well is

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01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:02.719
<v Speaker 7>the confidence major league organizations have with Great Britain. Yeah,

1316
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 7>we have a very strong medical team that we draw from.

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01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.199
<v Speaker 7>You know, we draw medical staff from major league teams.

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01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 7>And I think when you asked about the minnows being

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01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 7>class and minnows before, I think the organizations that release

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01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.079
<v Speaker 7>players to play in the World Baseball Classic view US

1321
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.440
<v Speaker 7>differently now as well. They know that we're going to

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01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:25.480
<v Speaker 7>look after their players when they come to US, and

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01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.320
<v Speaker 7>I think that gives them reassurance as well.

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01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 6>We're no longer that unknown. You know, we've done it.

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01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.400
<v Speaker 7>We've shown that we can compete with the best our staff,

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01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 7>you know, the majority work in Major League, so that

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01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.440
<v Speaker 7>there's an air of confidence around releasing players to Great Britain. Certainly,

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01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 7>that's the information I get given. Anyway, I've met a

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01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.119
<v Speaker 7>lot of owners now, I've met a lot of head

1330
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 7>coaches and managers, and you know, they've all formed that

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01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:55.360
<v Speaker 7>relationship with me where they want to learn about what

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01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:56.039
<v Speaker 7>I've done.

1333
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:57.960
<v Speaker 6>In sport, and I want to learn what they do

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01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 6>in baseball.

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01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 7>You know, they know I know very long about baseball,

1336
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.920
<v Speaker 7>but they they want to ask me about the other

1337
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.719
<v Speaker 7>sports I've worked in. So I'm guess they're you know,

1338
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:07.280
<v Speaker 7>they're trying to get as much out of me as

1339
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to learn from them, because I'm like a

1340
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.000
<v Speaker 7>sponge when it comes to baseball.

1341
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 6>I just want to learn everything.

1342
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 7>And if I get an opportunity to sit down with

1343
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 7>a manager and a head coach or an owner, you know,

1344
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 7>they can't get rid of me because I'm asking all

1345
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.079
<v Speaker 7>these questions and I'm noticing it all down on my

1346
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 7>iPad about what they do because you know, trust me,

1347
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 7>if their ideas are good at work, I'm going to

1348
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:27.760
<v Speaker 7>steal them.

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01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Now one hundred percent.

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01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.039
<v Speaker 4>I think any any person would be would love to

1351
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 4>have that opportunity. So I think the obviously the WC

1352
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:38.199
<v Speaker 4>are coming right now, but the big point in the

1353
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 4>future is is LA twenty twenty eight.

1354
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 3>It's I think you said right at the start.

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01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.760
<v Speaker 4>It was actually part of like the what was thrown

1356
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.920
<v Speaker 4>at you with this baseball opportunity is the fact that

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01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.640
<v Speaker 4>like there is this potentially eight year plan to get

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01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:54.680
<v Speaker 4>into an Olympic cycle.

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01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Can you just talk through how.

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01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Like sports and funding in the UK, it's almost like

1361
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.520
<v Speaker 4>so can be at the level dependent on it, like

1362
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 4>sport being in like an Olympic sport compared to being

1363
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:07.039
<v Speaker 4>like an Olympic sport.

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01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:09.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.319
<v Speaker 7>One thing I will add, Russell is they didn't tell

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01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:12.760
<v Speaker 7>me there was only going to be six teams at

1367
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 7>the Olympic Games. I took this job because you know,

1368
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 7>actually getting through to the Games is going to be

1369
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 7>a medal for a lot of teams.

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01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:22.680
<v Speaker 6>And when you get there, fifty percent of those teams

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01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 6>are going to win a medal.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what other sport have you got those odds,

1373
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:29.439
<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, once you get there, anything can

1374
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.319
<v Speaker 7>have and so I think anybody that gets to the

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01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:34.600
<v Speaker 7>Olympic Games as a chance of a medal. In order

1376
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 7>to receive investment from UK Sport, the government agency that

1377
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 7>fund sports in our country, you have to be an

1378
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.159
<v Speaker 7>Olympic sport. There aren't many sports that receive any form

1379
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:49.199
<v Speaker 7>of investment to the level that Olympic sports do. So

1380
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 7>the status of being an Olympic sport opens up so

1381
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:56.760
<v Speaker 7>many investment opportunities from the UK sports for the sports

1382
01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 7>are Olympic sports. The issue that baseball has and software

1383
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.239
<v Speaker 7>has is that we are not one of the core

1384
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:04.560
<v Speaker 7>sports for the Olympic Games.

1385
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, we can come and go.

1386
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.399
<v Speaker 7>We are fingers crossed for Brisbane in twenty thirty two

1387
01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Speaker 7>and the you know last week at the Congress, the

1388
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:17.640
<v Speaker 7>noises were positive that for inclusion in twenty thirty two.

1389
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 7>But until that is agreed and it's in writing and

1390
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 7>the local organizing committee in Brisbane have said it, then

1391
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 7>no one's going to invest in us. But for us

1392
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.399
<v Speaker 7>to receive the investment I think the sport deserves, it

1393
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 7>has to be an Olympic sport. It concerns me that

1394
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.760
<v Speaker 7>we are not a core sport. I believe it should be.

1395
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.279
<v Speaker 7>I think that there's a there's a space for a

1396
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.239
<v Speaker 7>sport like baseball in the Olympic Games, and you know

1397
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:49.319
<v Speaker 7>for but I you know, who knows what the local

1398
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 7>organizing committee in Australia wants, you know, it's and then

1399
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.560
<v Speaker 7>they have the maneuver that juggern or of Major League

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01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 7>Baseball to agree to allow the best players to play

1401
01:10:59.119 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 7>in it.

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01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:03.279
<v Speaker 4>So I think you spoke about it at the start,

1404
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:04.920
<v Speaker 4>and I think it's a good place to kind of

1405
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.000
<v Speaker 4>like end our conversation on is the kind of like

1406
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 4>what is like the legacy like and the future of

1407
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:13.680
<v Speaker 4>this as a player here in the UK, like the

1408
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.239
<v Speaker 4>we have kind of like we have a setup, we

1409
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.279
<v Speaker 4>have some wonderful teams and wonderful places around here, but

1410
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:21.840
<v Speaker 4>it is a very kind of low level sport like

1411
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:24.479
<v Speaker 4>in the United Kingdom. But we do have all the

1412
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:28.119
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to amazing players thanks to some of the heritage tools.

1413
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Soho the national team can compete at higher level.

1414
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:35.000
<v Speaker 4>How do we use this to build that legacy kind

1415
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.800
<v Speaker 4>of like at like the local grassroots level.

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01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 7>I would like to see there be visibility of the

1417
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.319
<v Speaker 7>sport at the highest level. Yeah, there's no point us

1418
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.439
<v Speaker 7>playing at the World Baseball Classic if there is no

1419
01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 7>cascade of that down to.

1420
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.800
<v Speaker 6>Grassrooms, there's no point whatsoever.

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01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 7>It's great that we're there, and it's great that we're

1422
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 7>competing with the top teams, but we need to make

1423
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:00.880
<v Speaker 7>sure that people see that.

1424
01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:02.680
<v Speaker 6>And so it's the visibility of that.

1425
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:06.000
<v Speaker 7>And you know, we've already started to see it with

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01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:10.960
<v Speaker 7>the Emerging Players program that bs UK and the BBF

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01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:14.319
<v Speaker 7>are put together. When I came in, there was an

1428
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:18.560
<v Speaker 7>academy structure, but yeah, I didn't like the word academy

1429
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 7>had all sorts of connotations of football academies, and you

1430
01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 7>know that was hijacked by various places that run academies,

1431
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:29.640
<v Speaker 7>and you know everybody calls their program an academy, and

1432
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 7>it lost its meaning for me. So I would love

1433
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 7>the World Baseball Classic and a legacy of that to

1434
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 7>be to fund an emerging player's pathway, so that anybody

1435
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.239
<v Speaker 7>that picks up about or a ball in Great Britain

1436
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:51.439
<v Speaker 7>can see a pathway through to the national team. We

1437
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 7>all know that if a player is good enough to

1438
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 7>do that, the likelihood is they're going to have to

1439
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 7>go and play abroad because that's where the professional leagues are.

1440
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 7>Because if we're going to be a competitive sy with

1441
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:05.920
<v Speaker 7>medals at European Championships, we're going to be up against

1442
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 7>professional players and our players have got to be playing professionally.

1443
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.399
<v Speaker 6>We've got to be playing day in, day out.

1444
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.399
<v Speaker 7>And you know, whilst there's no professional leagues in the UK,

1445
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 7>which I think is another huge opportunity, why can't there

1446
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 7>be a professional league in the UK. You know, why

1447
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 7>can't we attract talent from other countries to play in

1448
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:26.359
<v Speaker 7>a professional league in the UK. All it needs is

1449
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 7>some really good entrepreneurial brains to put that together, because

1450
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 7>I think that there would be interested in that. But

1451
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.960
<v Speaker 7>I would love there to be a legacy of a

1452
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:41.560
<v Speaker 7>pathway that a young player could carve himself out a

1453
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:46.079
<v Speaker 7>career in professional baseball coming from one of these fields

1454
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:47.520
<v Speaker 7>we've got dotted around our country.

1455
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's amazing to see, and we've had already had the.

1456
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:54.039
<v Speaker 4>First few sessions of those this year with that emerging program,

1457
01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.439
<v Speaker 4>seeing if you're down in Greenwich and across the country,

1458
01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 4>So amazing to see how those continue.

1459
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:00.119
<v Speaker 6>On.

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01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:04.000
<v Speaker 4>My final question for you, Gary is kind of like

1461
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:07.079
<v Speaker 4>the final pitch. We are sitting here in twenty thirty.

1462
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 4>What does success look like? Is it a medal at

1463
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.439
<v Speaker 4>the Olympics or is it more a change in how

1464
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 4>the British public pacity use baseball or why not both?

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01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 7>I was going to say, that's an easy answer, because

1466
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.159
<v Speaker 7>I just say to you, both of those are So

1467
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.239
<v Speaker 7>that'd be brilliant if we could do that. I think

1468
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:29.439
<v Speaker 7>that let's be brutally honest here. Yeah, the journey we've

1469
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.159
<v Speaker 7>been on, the trajectory we've had over the last four

1470
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 7>years is fantastic, you know, from what we've achieved. We

1471
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 7>are ahead of the plan that I laid out. You know,

1472
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.159
<v Speaker 7>I have a blueprint on my office wall, and we

1473
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.039
<v Speaker 7>are ahead of the S curve. You know. We I

1474
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:43.079
<v Speaker 7>didn't think we would be where we are, you know.

1475
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 7>And I never go on world rankings because the WBSC

1476
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 7>world ranking methodology is so convoluted and so confusing, right,

1477
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.319
<v Speaker 7>it's untrue. Yeah, and we are we will be gauzed

1478
01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 7>on one off tournaments because you look at that world

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<v Speaker 7>ranking and we don't host events start in this country,

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01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:04.039
<v Speaker 7>so therefore we're penalized straight away because we have to

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<v Speaker 7>qualify for everything, you know, other countries host events and

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01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 7>they don't qualify because they're the host nations, so they

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01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:15.880
<v Speaker 7>automatically get big points. We don't, so that I disregard

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01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 7>the methodology for that ranking straight away, so I don't

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01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:19.359
<v Speaker 7>think it's right.

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<v Speaker 6>So I would like to.

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<v Speaker 7>See that one our world, you know, standing in major competitions,

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<v Speaker 7>is that we're regularly medal zone. In European Championships, we

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01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:32.399
<v Speaker 7>are regular medal zone and we qualify it for the

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<v Speaker 7>bigger platforms. That's what I would like to see happen.

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<v Speaker 7>In addition to that, I would like to see more

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<v Speaker 7>opportunities for people to play baseball in the country and

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01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.239
<v Speaker 7>for people to be able to pick up or they

1494
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:48.439
<v Speaker 7>don't pick up newspapers these days, and they go online

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01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:52.239
<v Speaker 7>these days and read about their national teams and also

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01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:55.600
<v Speaker 7>read about their local teams. You know, I used to

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01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 7>live in Hemml Hampstead and I used to see this

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01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 7>baseball round and Grove Hill when I was walking my dogs,

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01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:05.680
<v Speaker 7>and I didn't know who played there or anything. Now

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<v Speaker 7>I follow their results, and I'd like everybody in the

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01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:11.479
<v Speaker 7>general public to know that they have a local ballpark,

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01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:15.159
<v Speaker 7>they have a local team, and maybe the visibility. Yeah,

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01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.199
<v Speaker 7>we were joking last week saying that you know you

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01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 7>watched Breakfast TV at the moment and you see the

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01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 7>red List from Milan Cortina coming on there talking about

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01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:29.680
<v Speaker 7>sports that are much smaller than baseball. Okay, and everybody

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01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.039
<v Speaker 7>wants to be now the next skeleton rider or the

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01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:35.840
<v Speaker 7>next acrobat skia or the big hill or whatever they

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01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 7>want to be. I would love to be on Breakfast

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01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.960
<v Speaker 7>TV talking about Great Britain beat in USA. Wouldn't that

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01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.800
<v Speaker 7>be a fantastic story, right? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>It would be an upset amongst all upsets. And as

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<v Speaker 6>I said, I'm a realist, but wouldn't it be good.

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<v Speaker 7>If we could suddenly see the visibility of Great Britain

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01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:57.680
<v Speaker 7>baseball on a Breakfast TV or on Radio five Live Thrivetime.

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<v Speaker 7>But because we've achieved so good results well Baseball Classic,

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01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:03.880
<v Speaker 7>and there's no reason we can't.

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<v Speaker 6>There is no reason we can't.

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01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.840
<v Speaker 7>And I would hope if in twenty thirty, when I

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01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:13.359
<v Speaker 7>probably have retired by then, Russell, we're talking now and

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01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.920
<v Speaker 7>you invite me back on as a guest and whatever

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01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.119
<v Speaker 7>sport I'm working with them, lets me come and talk

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<v Speaker 7>to you and you tell me, isn't it great? That

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<v Speaker 7>we've got this professional league and we've got all of

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01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 7>these young players coming through and four or five British

1526
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 7>born players are making their debut in the Major League

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01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:30.119
<v Speaker 7>this year. That would be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, that is a dream and a place I thing

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01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 4>we all want to get to within the British world,

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01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.560
<v Speaker 4>those of us who play on this side of loaders

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01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 4>who just enjoy watching baseball as a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary, thank you so much for your time. It's always

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<v Speaker 3>a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Your insights are always very interesting to have, so thank

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<v Speaker 4>you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you all for listening.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find us at Batfleots, Underscore Nerds on Twitter

1539
01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and batflets and nerds on other social devices and batflops

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01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 4>and nerds dot com. We'll have another episode devoted to

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01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 4>actually going through the roster of the GB team soon,

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<v Speaker 4>but until then, thank you and we'll hope you listen soon.
