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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence and they would dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here. Look, I'm new to the window now
Speaker 2: and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 2: It's hello, hit the boddy out here? What quent on
Speaker 2: out there? I thought off a bit of about text nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Easy am out there? Yeah, I'm walking
Speaker 2: right heady.
Speaker 1: Oh Daniel, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: I am very well mate. We've done this quite a
Speaker 4: few times now.
Speaker 5: It's great to be back on with you, and Taitu
Speaker 5: is one of the ones that we've actually met, which
Speaker 5: is amazing.
Speaker 4: It was great to hang out with you in Florida.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's keep right into it, taate, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about this bigfoot thing. We like to start, or
Speaker 1: at least I like to start in the same place
Speaker 1: with most people. What got you interested in the subject
Speaker 1: to begin with?
Speaker 3: So what got me started? Like the whole bigfoot thing
Speaker 3: was for me being a younger kid, I was an oddball,
Speaker 3: and so I'm always like watching YouTube videos and stuff
Speaker 3: like back when YouTube is brand new. I was watching
Speaker 3: like YouTube videos and I came across like the Passing
Speaker 3: One Cellem and stuff like that. I've been into weird
Speaker 3: things like Lockness Monster and the Jersey Devil moth Man,
Speaker 3: but seeing that Patterson Giblin film was huge for me.
Speaker 3: The Monster Quest was very big in the early two thousands,
Speaker 3: and that was crying for me at my young age.
Speaker 3: I was really watching that and they did stuff in
Speaker 3: Bluff Creek and well that I was like, man, that
Speaker 3: is so fascinating. And fast forwarding a few years, I
Speaker 3: was living in Mexico. Finding Big Club came out in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. I binge watched that. I own every episode
Speaker 3: of the show. I was like, man, we're so close.
Speaker 3: I can go to Bluff Creek and then we moved
Speaker 3: to California. Now I'm one step closer, and then I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, let's plan it. So I
Speaker 3: got my dad and a couple of friends of mine.
Speaker 3: We played a trip to Bluff Creek and we went there.
Speaker 3: Didn't make it to the Patterson Giblin site unfortunately, which
Speaker 3: was kind of a bummer. But the second time around,
Speaker 3: I ran into Lift and Bobo at Lous Camp just
Speaker 3: randomly got to meet them. They were really cool. It
Speaker 3: wasn't until the third time to Bluff Creek I actually
Speaker 3: made it to the film site. So that long journey
Speaker 3: kind of really got me into the whole big thing
Speaker 3: and just going down the rabbit hole that I've been
Speaker 3: going down, I haven't stopped ever since.
Speaker 5: Wow, am I that's the first time that I've heard
Speaker 5: that story. I knew that you were involved in the
Speaker 5: Bluff Creek project and that so my question to you
Speaker 5: is when you actually got the Patterson given Them film site,
Speaker 5: what did you filmmake Because not many people have actually
Speaker 5: been there, so what was your first impression?
Speaker 3: My first impression, to be honest with you, I was like,
Speaker 3: is this the right spot? Because you see it in
Speaker 3: the film, in the sixty seven Patterson Gillman film. The
Speaker 3: reason it's open like that is because in sixty four
Speaker 3: there was a flood that kind of cleared out a
Speaker 3: lot of the area, which made that sandbar that you see.
Speaker 3: But over time, regrowth has taken its place, and trees
Speaker 3: are just everywhere, so it doesn't look like the film site.
Speaker 3: And then also erosion from the creek or road to
Speaker 3: all that sandbar away. So when you go there, like,
Speaker 3: this doesn't look like the film site. But when you
Speaker 3: actually go on to the sandbar and walk, the stumps
Speaker 3: that you see in the original film are still there.
Speaker 3: The big tree that you see in frame of FI
Speaker 3: fifty two is still there. The only thing that's not
Speaker 3: there is the giant log that you see in the middle.
Speaker 3: I think that was salvage by loggers back in the day,
Speaker 3: but I think there's a remnant of it there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: just a feeling that I had, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is surreal to be here, and this is it's almost
Speaker 3: like for people who are into the jfk assassination being
Speaker 3: at the Texas school Book Depository, Oh my god, I
Speaker 3: can't believe I'm here. Yeah, it's just a surreal place
Speaker 3: to be in.
Speaker 1: You've actually been to the site, so there are things
Speaker 1: there like the big tree, like you said, that make
Speaker 1: it possible to do some analysis. And I know that
Speaker 1: you've been involved in some of that scene. Some folks
Speaker 1: do that about the size of Patty. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about that actually going to the side and seeing
Speaker 1: some of the analysis, Like thinker Thucker comes to mind.
Speaker 1: There's other people that are still working on the film today.
Speaker 1: We won't get into that, but how do you feel
Speaker 1: after actually visiting the site seeing some of those things
Speaker 1: that are there that would show the size of Patty
Speaker 1: and then some of the comparisons. Has anything stuck out
Speaker 1: to you over the years as being more accurate based
Speaker 1: on the actual film site than others as far as
Speaker 1: the size and maybe height and weight of Patty.
Speaker 3: The height and weight, Yeah, so like the sizes and everything.
Speaker 3: She's a lot shorter than I expected her to be
Speaker 3: because I think it's around what she's like the estimate
Speaker 3: is around like six' two or. Something she's not very.
Speaker 3: Tall she's very, broad but not height. Wise but being
Speaker 3: there for, me they're thinking even to this day to
Speaker 3: drive out there with the, road its the way they.
Speaker 3: Are you can get a flat, tier you have to
Speaker 3: really be. Prepared So i'm, thinking, like why would they
Speaker 3: come all the way here to fake a? Video if it's,
Speaker 3: faked it's just too much. Work the remoteness for me
Speaker 3: is sit, man they really filmed something. Here then seeing
Speaker 3: the actual, standbar it's a lot smaller than you would.
Speaker 3: Think it's not as. Big so when you're looking at
Speaker 3: Where roger, was Where bob, was Where patty, was they
Speaker 3: were right on top of. Her roger And bob knew
Speaker 3: exactly what they were, seeing and they knew for a
Speaker 3: fact that this wasn't a person in a costume or
Speaker 3: a hoax or anything like. That the sizes so like
Speaker 3: when The Black Pet project was, analyzing they used the
Speaker 3: stumps to find out and they use THE i want to,
Speaker 3: say was what year was? It seventy? Eight Reneede hinden's
Speaker 3: overview shot of the film. Site he climbed up on
Speaker 3: the ridge and he took a picture and they used
Speaker 3: that to determine where the film site, was using the
Speaker 3: big trees in the. LANDMARKS i can't remember how far
Speaker 3: away from the stumps she. WAS i want to say
Speaker 3: maybe fifteen feet or twenty feet in front of the,
Speaker 3: stumps maybe a few hundred feet or one hundred feet
Speaker 3: from the big, Tree so they're kind of using those
Speaker 3: stumps to kind of gauge her high a little, bit
Speaker 3: WHICH i think that's the best you're going to be
Speaker 3: able to. Do yuess she's not very, tall which somebody
Speaker 3: could fit in a costume at that, height but, again
Speaker 3: there's so many things that go against the costume. Theory
Speaker 3: and then The bluffbeat, Project Rowdy kelly And Jamie. Wayne
Speaker 3: they have The kodak one HUNDRED i think is the
Speaker 3: camera That roger, used and they're actually doing recreations on
Speaker 3: the film. Site i've seen some of the videos and
Speaker 3: recreations they. HAVE i don't think they're published, anywhere But i'm,
Speaker 3: like pretty, close pretty spot. On hips a lot taller Than,
Speaker 3: PATTY i.
Speaker 5: Think to move on from that slightly, NOW i take
Speaker 5: you mentioned Finding bigfoot. EARLIER i know a lot of
Speaker 5: people watch that here in THE. Uk would you tell
Speaker 5: us a little bit about your experience on Finding?
Speaker 3: Bigfoot, yeah So i'll go to the beginning of how that.
Speaker 3: Happened it was my very first time On Bluff creek
Speaker 3: was twenty, sixteen something kind of came around my tent
Speaker 3: from where the creek. Was it was like a really
Speaker 3: skinny shadow and then it. Stopped then it turned like
Speaker 3: this and then turned. Back it went the same way
Speaker 3: from where it. Came i'm, like you know how the
Speaker 3: earth rotates and shadows do a circular. Motion this came
Speaker 3: back from the same direction it came. From. IT i
Speaker 3: had my phone. Recording that's ALL i had at the,
Speaker 3: time was just my, iPhone AND i was recording. Audio
Speaker 3: the creek kind of drowns out a lot of the
Speaker 3: noise and it's so very, faint but there's some woodknocks
Speaker 3: and the, whoop and then there was something walking around
Speaker 3: our camp THAT i cat on. Audio it's not a
Speaker 3: smoking gun as far as the audio. Goes it doesn't
Speaker 3: make you jump or make your eyes get. Wide BUT
Speaker 3: i reported that to THE, bfro SO i just wanted
Speaker 3: to see if somebody would investigate. It i'd never heard.
Speaker 3: Anything and then fast forward to When Finding bigfoot was
Speaker 3: doing their very LAST i think it was like twenty,
Speaker 3: eighteen so they were filming In Willow. Creek one of
Speaker 3: the people that worked on the show reached out to,
Speaker 3: me is, like, hey would you be able to come
Speaker 3: up here and maybe talk about. This SO i was, like,
Speaker 3: Yes i'll do. It SO i drove up To Willow.
Speaker 3: Creek long story, short they didn't interview, me BUT i
Speaker 3: already Knew, CLIFF i already Knew, BOBBO i already Knew
Speaker 3: matt at this. Point SO i got up there and
Speaker 3: saw them and, said, high this is actually the first
Speaker 3: trip THAT i Met Rowdy kelly BEFORE i was in
Speaker 3: The bluffbrey, Project so that was. Cool he was the
Speaker 3: one who drove me up to do the, recreation but
Speaker 3: THE rpg was the one who really reached out and
Speaker 3: talked to. Me WHEN i was in, Town tim AND
Speaker 3: i were, chatting and SO i was just hanging. Around
Speaker 3: so the day before we were in the area where
Speaker 3: they were filming With Bill, muns we were at The
Speaker 3: China Flat museum and off, AIR i was talking about
Speaker 3: That Eric Beck george. Copy they were analyzing that at
Speaker 3: The China Flat museum And Bob gimmon was right There
Speaker 3: Bill munn just looking at. IT i have a little
Speaker 3: video of it somewhere that never made it to, air
Speaker 3: but they used. That they talked about that little picture
Speaker 3: that he found on the reel on the, episode AND
Speaker 3: i was at The Veterans hall thing In Willow creek
Speaker 3: and Then cliff And bobo And matt And rene are all,
Speaker 3: There Bob gimlins right up there With Bill. Muns there's
Speaker 3: a shot of me in the audience right, there just
Speaker 3: B be and. Me then it was later that day
Speaker 3: they're filming their final scene around the, table talking, About,
Speaker 3: oh we're going to go here to this, spot me
Speaker 3: and bar Or robert And cliff or. Whatever then hanging.
Speaker 3: Around RPG's, like, hey just hang around with. Me and
Speaker 3: then he goes, like do you want to be in a? Recreation,
Speaker 3: Yeah so we drove up to do the. Recreation it
Speaker 3: was like me and six other people got to do.
Speaker 3: It the episode came, OUT i want to, say a year.
Speaker 3: Later so that's HOW i got to be on The
Speaker 3: finding Big. Foot SO i didn't get like a cool talking,
Speaker 3: thing BUT i got to act in.
Speaker 1: IT i know you've had experiences we can stay In Bluff,
Speaker 1: creek in and around that. Site you mentioned a couple
Speaker 1: of weird things that have. Happened what other kind of
Speaker 1: experiences have you had personally with these things that would
Speaker 1: lead you to believe that you had interacted with or
Speaker 1: had an experience with a.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot so there's three in, particular or actually there's four
Speaker 3: in particular kind of really stand out to. Again one
Speaker 3: was In Bluff. Creek another was On, idaho Southern california
Speaker 3: near WHERE i, lived To, ventura and then Northern, florida Southern.
Speaker 3: CALIFORNIA i was with a buddy of. MINE i want
Speaker 3: to say it was twenty Fifteen. October it was my
Speaker 3: very first time out with My Fleers SCOUT tk THAT i.
Speaker 3: Had and for those who don't, know it's a small thermal,
Speaker 3: UNIT i think It's the range is only one hundred,
Speaker 3: yards is not very. FAR i found tracks a year
Speaker 3: earlier and sat on it AND i Tweeted moneymaker about.
Speaker 3: IT i was, like, HEY i found these tracks in this. Area, He'said,
Speaker 3: HEY i might want to meet you out there with
Speaker 3: other people that had encounters in that general. Area SO
Speaker 3: i met up With matt and at the end of the,
Speaker 3: DAY i was, Like, hey where should we go BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i just take this road to the trailhead and we
Speaker 3: did to set the stage here a little. BIT a
Speaker 3: few months, earlier one of the GUYS i met with
Speaker 3: when we were meeting With moneymaker that day he recorded
Speaker 3: a big foot In july off the grapevine walking down
Speaker 3: the steep. Hill So i'm, like maybe it's the same.
Speaker 3: Individual so we get to this parking lot area on this.
Speaker 3: Ridge it's really sharp drop off on either. Side it's
Speaker 3: about nine o'clock at. Night when we start walking down
Speaker 3: this real. TRAIL i do a couple of wood knocks
Speaker 3: on this dead. Tree doesn't make a good sound at.
Speaker 3: All THEN i do one whoop one, direction another whoop another,
Speaker 3: direction and then as we're talking, QUIETLY i hear a
Speaker 3: response back to my. Whoop i'm, like what it's, like.
Speaker 3: Dude there's this little OVERLOOK i saw when we were
Speaker 3: coming down the. Ridge let's go back to that little
Speaker 3: overlook and kind of. Scan and we had our headlamps,
Speaker 3: on mind, You so this thing definitely made us before
Speaker 3: we made. It it saw us before anything. Happened so
Speaker 3: we were looking where the sound came, from and way
Speaker 3: off in the, distance we were seeing, lights but we
Speaker 3: saw something. Else it looked like lights that were. Closer
Speaker 3: we thought it was like fifty feet away because the
Speaker 3: eyeshine was so. Big so we still have our headlamps.
Speaker 3: ON i take out the thermal AND i start, recording
Speaker 3: and if anybody's ever used a thermal for their first,
Speaker 3: time it's really. Weird you gotta get used to those.
Speaker 3: Things and So i'm using the. THERMAL i can't see.
Speaker 3: IT i flip through the filters see IF i can
Speaker 3: try and see. It still can't see. IT i put
Speaker 3: the thermal. Down it's still. RECORDING i look. UP i was, like,
Speaker 3: oh it is still. THERE i bring the flair back
Speaker 3: up my friend IN CASEI i do a couple of.
Speaker 3: Calls i'm, like, yeah just go for. It so he
Speaker 3: does one call, nothing another call a little bit more,
Speaker 3: aggressive and he's, like, dude it's. Gone then we start
Speaker 3: walking back to the. Truck it wasn't until the next
Speaker 3: day we went. There we saw some scuff marks in.
Speaker 3: There we didn't really find anything track. Wise we did
Speaker 3: a very bad, measurement but it matches. Up it was
Speaker 3: about three hundred feet away from us from where this
Speaker 3: thing was standing to where we were pictures during the.
Speaker 3: Day there's no way we could have ran after it
Speaker 3: and got close to. It wasn't UNTIL i got home
Speaker 3: that DAY i looked on the computer and blew it.
Speaker 3: UP i was, like holy. CRAP i got it on.
Speaker 3: Camera it's a classic blob squatch. Video it's not like
Speaker 3: damning by any means or any stretch of the, Imagination
Speaker 3: but with the story and what happened, There i'm pretty
Speaker 3: convinced it was a big. Flip so that was like
Speaker 3: the one instance THAT i possibly phoned.
Speaker 1: One and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to. See
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after The east.
Speaker 3: Messages another one was In california Of Bluff. CREEK i
Speaker 3: was With alex And eli and we were out there
Speaker 3: was their first time, there and we're driving Into Bluff
Speaker 3: creek or maybe a few hundred yards From Laos. Camp
Speaker 3: we're like right near Where Jerry crewe casted the first
Speaker 3: tracks Of bigfoot that coined the term Big, foot and
Speaker 3: we're throwing these rocks off into the creek below. Us
Speaker 3: we can hear them hitting the, water and as we're doing,
Speaker 3: That alex was, like, HEY i THOUGHT i heard something
Speaker 3: up on the. Hill me And eli were, like, oh
Speaker 3: we didn't hear. Anything Then eli picks up a rock
Speaker 3: throws it. Down then all of a, sudden these rocks
Speaker 3: start coming down at. Us So alex takes off and
Speaker 3: runs one, way and Then eli AND i hide behind
Speaker 3: my car so we don't get hit with rocks this.
Speaker 3: Big after the dust, settles we're looking up to where
Speaker 3: from where the rocks came, from and right below us
Speaker 3: and the, creek we hear something walking away and we're,
Speaker 3: like that is very. Weird that same, trip we were
Speaker 3: in Laired meadow And alex AND i had something thrown
Speaker 3: at us with knocks that followed it later, On so that's.
Speaker 3: Two and Then, IDAHO i was With Ron reed and
Speaker 3: my Buddy Jonathan easy and we were sitting around the.
Speaker 3: Campfire we were doing some research but we were just.
Speaker 3: Talking at this Point ron was recording audio and up
Speaker 3: the hill from us we heard a clear, knock loud as.
Speaker 3: Day it stopped us all from. Talking we were like
Speaker 3: What and that was one of the clearest knocks now
Speaker 3: in Northern. Florida the clearest knock That i've ever heard.
Speaker 3: WAS i was WITH rpg and a guy Named James,
Speaker 3: brost and this was also during to be on the
Speaker 3: trail shoot With alex And. Eli we were out, THERE
Speaker 3: rpg AND i were walking the road with no lights
Speaker 3: and off to our left we hear like a clear
Speaker 3: baseball bat, knock like bang what none of us were recording.
Speaker 3: AUDIO i still kicked myself over that to this. Day you're,
Speaker 3: like do we knock back or we just leave? It
Speaker 3: and we're, like, oh let's just leave. It so we
Speaker 3: start walking. Again in less than a, minute another knockoff
Speaker 3: to our, right so two different knocks from two different.
Speaker 3: Directions again did not record. It so fast forward to
Speaker 3: like maybe thirty forty minutes, later we get back to the.
Speaker 3: CARS rpg is talking with The marty and Then i'm
Speaker 3: talking with The James. Brost BUT i started recording audio this,
Speaker 3: time and As james AND i are, talking we don't
Speaker 3: have any lights on the, stark it's. Cold in front
Speaker 3: Of james AND, i we see a bright blue tangerine
Speaker 3: maybe bigger sized ball of light floating through the trees really,
Speaker 3: fast and on the audio you can Hear james AND i, GO,
Speaker 3: whoa what the? Crap did you see? That, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: dude that's actually in one of The florida. EPISODES i
Speaker 3: had Big foot activity an Salt or that. Night so
Speaker 3: those are probably some of the best Experiences i've ever
Speaker 3: had that make me think that Was.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot let's stick In florida for a. Second this is
Speaker 1: something that's come up over and over on the, show
Speaker 1: and there's people out there who shall remain nameless at this,
Speaker 1: point but there's people that argue with me a lot
Speaker 1: that it's ridiculous for anybody to think that There's bigfoot In.
Speaker 1: Florida so you're down, There RPG's down. There there's plenty
Speaker 1: of researchers That i've talked to THAT i know fairly
Speaker 1: well that have had experiences that have found. Evidence they're finding,
Speaker 1: tracks they're finding tree break, structures all the things that
Speaker 1: everybody else is.
Speaker 3: Finding can you talk a.
Speaker 1: Little bit about that being In, florida having had experiences In.
Speaker 1: Florida what do you say when people say there is
Speaker 1: no way On earth The bigfoot could exist anywhere In.
Speaker 3: FLORIDA i really think that's ignorance talking if people say.
Speaker 3: THAT i, mean if big of it are In, omaha
Speaker 3: you're In nebraska Or iowa for that, matter where there's
Speaker 3: a very little, forest then it makes so much sense
Speaker 3: that they would be down here In. Florida there's a
Speaker 3: lot of very harsh terrain out here that's extremely hard
Speaker 3: to get to in an animal Like let's just talk
Speaker 3: about a commedy animal we all, know like a, bear
Speaker 3: a black. Bear i've seen them down here in The
Speaker 3: everglades only a few hours for me on several, Occasions
Speaker 3: alex AND i were casting mountain lion prints or panther
Speaker 3: prince and bear. Prints they're, Here so what's not to
Speaker 3: say that a bigfoot would not be here In. FLORIDA
Speaker 3: i don't think there's a lot of them here In,
Speaker 3: florida BUT i really think they are here in my.
Speaker 3: OPINION i was talking With ron when he was. Here
Speaker 3: we were researching. Here he's one of my good research.
Speaker 3: Partners we're, thinking you know, what it might not be
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of bigfoot, here more that there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people. HERE i think it's a lot
Speaker 3: of people seeing the same individuals versus there being a
Speaker 3: lot of bigfoot because you look AT i Think florida's
Speaker 3: what three unlike the highest states for bigfoot. Encounters but
Speaker 3: if you look At, florida it's a, peninsula and it's
Speaker 3: a really narrow, state and there's a lot of, people
Speaker 3: and it's also very touristy state. Too so it makes
Speaker 3: me wonder if people are going out to The everglades
Speaker 3: and camping and, hunting and they're running across these creatures
Speaker 3: because there's just nowhere for them to. Be at the same,
Speaker 3: TIME i think it's just ignorants talking and people say
Speaker 3: there's no bigfoot In. Florida, no they're definitely. HERE i
Speaker 3: just don't think there's that many of. Them that's just
Speaker 3: my humble.
Speaker 5: OPINION i flew over The Appalachian. Trial when you look,
Speaker 5: down it's miles and miles of. FOREST i saw the
Speaker 5: same In, seattle where it's miles and miles of.
Speaker 4: Forest it's the same from.
Speaker 5: Above so why wouldn't there be bigfoot In florida when
Speaker 5: actually they can make their way down there quite. Easily
Speaker 5: so to switch back to your, sightings one QUESTION i
Speaker 5: always ask is when you had all of those, encounters
Speaker 5: how did you.
Speaker 3: Feel my thermal, encounter the one WHERE i possibly recorded,
Speaker 3: ONE i can tell you exactly HOW i. FELT i
Speaker 3: felt extremely, scared but extremely exhilarated and excited at the same.
Speaker 3: TIME i don't want to say fifty to fifty for each.
Speaker 3: Emotion it was like one hundred percent for each emotion
Speaker 3: colashing together BECAUSE i did not expect anything to happen at.
Speaker 3: All it's just one of those things you just should,
Speaker 3: have could, have would. HAVE i would have filn it.
Speaker 3: Longer IF i didn't listen to my, FRIEND i would
Speaker 3: have camped at the. Site but it freaked me. Out
Speaker 3: we went back down the mountain and. Camped as far
Speaker 3: as the other stuff, goes mind, you the thermal video
Speaker 3: is probably the most exposure or the most radical encounter
Speaker 3: one could have filming one even seeing it and watching.
Speaker 3: You but moving forward with my other encounters or and
Speaker 3: potential encounters That i've, HAD i don't Think i've ever
Speaker 3: felt nervous or uneasy, again just more that's. Awesome that's
Speaker 3: WHY i come out. Here that's an adrenaline. Rush life
Speaker 3: is boring When i'm working pressure cleaning as my day,
Speaker 3: job and WHEN i can get out here have something,
Speaker 3: happen it's just, exciting you.
Speaker 5: Know so you tend here with a lot of people
Speaker 5: when you haven't had that, EXPERIENCE a lot people.
Speaker 4: Lasted what do a can you would?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 5: Now the more and more people have, signs the more
Speaker 5: and more we can answer that, question which is. Great
Speaker 5: just BEFORE i go back To, brian what color was the?
Speaker 5: Eye Shonk because you get a lot of different reports
Speaker 5: of different colors of eye.
Speaker 3: Shine it was like a, yellow bright yellow kind of,
Speaker 3: color and we had lights shining on. It SO i
Speaker 3: think if you're shining lights on any animal that are
Speaker 3: adapted to have seen in the, dark pretty, well it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a yellowish tinge sometimes. Green SO i don't
Speaker 3: buy into the theory myself about bioluminescence they make their eyes.
Speaker 3: LOW i don't buy that the color of the eyes
Speaker 3: was yellow and that's because our lights were on.
Speaker 1: IT i used to not buy that, Either but if
Speaker 1: you haven't experience it could change your mind about the.
Speaker 3: Bioluminescence but that's All i'm going to say about.
Speaker 2: That right.
Speaker 1: Now we've talked About. Florida we talked about the climate
Speaker 1: and the reason that they would be In. Florida this
Speaker 1: is something that's come up so many, times And i've
Speaker 1: had so many. Conversations danny AND i just did an
Speaker 1: episode of That bigfoot podcast where we talked about, how
Speaker 1: obviously it's, subjective but how bigfoot sasquatch deals with extreme,
Speaker 1: cold BECAUSE i tell, you when it comes to reports
Speaker 1: of seeing these, creatures it makes a whole lot more
Speaker 1: sense to me that they would be in a more
Speaker 1: temperate climate Like, florida because we know monkeys exist. There
Speaker 1: there was those monkeys from the filming Of tarzan like
Speaker 1: back in the thirties or, whatever that are all over
Speaker 1: the swamps down there and in certain, areas and they're
Speaker 1: surviving and thriving to the point they're becoming an invasive.
Speaker 1: Species So florida can certainly support that as far as
Speaker 1: another primate it's. Concerned here's the rub for. ME i
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing That bigfoot is up In
Speaker 1: minnesota when it's twenty below zero and the dead of.
Speaker 1: Winter of, course it's all. Subjective we have no, idea
Speaker 1: but in your personal, opinion it's easy to see them
Speaker 1: dealing with the temperatures down In. Florida how do you
Speaker 1: think they do survive in those really harsh, climates because
Speaker 1: there's quite a few experiences people report and encounters In.
Speaker 1: Minnesota maybe not in the dead of, winter but they've
Speaker 1: got to get it through That somehow do you think
Speaker 1: they leave the area as as? Possible these things migrate
Speaker 1: or do you think that you're using caves peat? Bogs
Speaker 1: how do you think they deal with that extreme?
Speaker 3: COLD i think they. Migrate one what's funny is you
Speaker 3: look At bigfoot researchers and think they're. Crazy even a,
Speaker 3: Way bigfoot has taught me a lot about other, animals
Speaker 3: and you learn about different animals and how they would
Speaker 3: do to survive because you're talking about the same, creature
Speaker 3: like you're talking About bigfoot that lives in the same
Speaker 3: areas as bears and, Deers AND i don't think you'd
Speaker 3: ever see a deer when it's doing a three degrees
Speaker 3: in the dead of winter in Like minnesota Or iowa
Speaker 3: or something like. THAT i think they migrate to warmer.
Speaker 3: WEATHER i think during the summer they're going to migrate,
Speaker 3: north and during the winter they're going to migrate. South
Speaker 3: and even in areas like on The west, COAST i
Speaker 3: think they're not going to be up and high elevation
Speaker 3: in the winter. Times they're going to be lower in
Speaker 3: elevation where it's going to be, warmer not, cooler so
Speaker 3: there's a lot more. Shelter BUT i like flat areas
Speaker 3: like in The midwest or Even florida where there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of. CAVES i don't, know migration Makes it's
Speaker 3: the most sense to. Me if we're talking about a
Speaker 3: biological animal like. Sasquatch that's WHAT i Believe biglet is,
Speaker 3: too so. Biological and as far as, CAVES i don't
Speaker 3: know if they all travel through cave tunnel systems because
Speaker 3: you need. Light they could seriously get hurt walking in
Speaker 3: a cave with no. Light they might be in the
Speaker 3: mouth of a. CAVE i don't think they're going to
Speaker 3: go explore the rest of the tunnel system of, caves
Speaker 3: SO i GUESS i do see them utilizing caves that way.
Speaker 1: Too that brings up a couple of the questions for
Speaker 1: me with the. Migration that's something we've done roundtables on my,
Speaker 1: show And daniel And i've had round tables with other
Speaker 1: folks and we've talked about the possible migration and what
Speaker 1: does that. Mean is migration a? Mile is it ten?
Speaker 1: Miles is one hundred miles or a thousand? Miles because
Speaker 1: here's what comes up for me when you talk about,
Speaker 1: migration especially with a group of these. Creatures if they're
Speaker 1: migrating and moving from place to, place that to me
Speaker 1: seems like when they would be most vulnerable to be
Speaker 1: seen and have encounters with human. Beings, obviously depending on
Speaker 1: where we're, at migration In florida would look very, DIFFERENT
Speaker 1: i think than some. Areas maybe out in The Pacific,
Speaker 1: northwest they could probably migrate one hundred miles or more
Speaker 1: and never leave the. Forest but in certain places where
Speaker 1: people have encounters with these, things it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: that they're able to move unseen if they are a
Speaker 1: bi Pedal harry hamanid that's purely flesh and, blood WHICH
Speaker 1: i believe they. Are maybe they have some superabilities or
Speaker 1: some things that we don't really, understand but by and,
Speaker 1: LARGE i think there're something along those. Lines here's the
Speaker 1: other rub for me THAT i want to get your
Speaker 1: opinion on, here again purely. Subjective you AND i have
Speaker 1: both Had Less stroud on our shows respectively over the
Speaker 1: last couple of, weeks and one of the things That
Speaker 1: less brought up which really surprised, me he threw out
Speaker 1: some numbers like thirty five to forty thousand of these,
Speaker 1: things possibly in the lower forty, eight which blew my
Speaker 1: mind that he was even considering. THAT i didn't even
Speaker 1: challenge him on it BECAUSE i know he's probably going
Speaker 1: to address that in his upcoming documentary the question Of.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot but my thought processes.
Speaker 1: On these things is there's probably way less than, that
Speaker 1: because if they were in numbers of thirty five to forty,
Speaker 1: thousand say in the lower forty, eight although there's millions
Speaker 1: and millions of places they could be that people, aren't
Speaker 1: it would make more sense to me that the encounters
Speaker 1: with humans would increase exponentially if there were forty five
Speaker 1: thousand of these, things, say because that's more along the
Speaker 1: lines of a black bear population in any given. State
Speaker 1: how do you feel about when they're, seeing how they're,
Speaker 1: seeing how often they're, seen and the numbers of how
Speaker 1: many there might, be say in the lower forty, EIGHT.
Speaker 3: I think that makes. Sense there's a lot of land
Speaker 3: real estate. Here let's just, say if there's forty thousand
Speaker 3: sasquatches spread out from coast to coast or border to,
Speaker 3: border it's not a lot if you think about, it
Speaker 3: given how much land there is versus how many people.
Speaker 3: There's as far as traveling through different states for, MIGRATION
Speaker 3: i don't think there's a problem with that because a
Speaker 3: lot of The midwest is cornfields with high stocks sometimes
Speaker 3: and if you're traveling at, night they might travel at
Speaker 3: night and rest during the. Day if they're, migrating and
Speaker 3: if you're traveling through corner, stocks you can stay pretty
Speaker 3: low in that never be seen at, night and make
Speaker 3: it from POINT a to POINT. B, obviously it's going
Speaker 3: to be a lot easier in places like on The
Speaker 3: west coast where there's a lot more trees and mountains
Speaker 3: and way harder to get. Into BUT i think they
Speaker 3: adapt to the environment that they're, in hence is why they.
Speaker 3: Migrate for, me that makes a lot of sense for
Speaker 3: migrating and the numbers SAYING i guess to put it in,
Speaker 3: perspective like to just, say as an, experiment you had
Speaker 3: one hundred people to have migrate from north to south
Speaker 3: and not be. Seen let's just Use iowa for. Example
Speaker 3: that's at flat state with a lot of. Forest you
Speaker 3: had one hundred people spread out there the whole state Of,
Speaker 3: iowa and they would let's say where they were all
Speaker 3: wearing bright yellow shirts and pants and shoes and gloves or,
Speaker 3: whatever so they can stand. Out but if they move
Speaker 3: at night and very meticulous about where their travel was
Speaker 3: going to be, THROUGH i think it'd be extremely hard
Speaker 3: to find those. People one hundred people through the whole
Speaker 3: state Of. Iowa, well it makes a lot of sense to.
Speaker 1: Me in the.
Speaker 3: VEMBERS i don't have an issue with the forty thousand
Speaker 3: spread out for the lower forty. Eight that seems about. Right.
Speaker 3: Two i've heard that not from less but other. People
Speaker 3: that's a good.
Speaker 5: Estimate something that you keep mentioning is the moving at,
Speaker 5: night doing their activity at. Night, now a lot of
Speaker 5: people have Their bigfoot experiences or encounters at, night and
Speaker 5: it seems to all occur when it's not. Now some
Speaker 5: people have it during the, day but the majority at.
Speaker 5: Night why do you think that. Is do you think
Speaker 5: it's because they do their sleeping during the day and
Speaker 5: they're moving at night and they don't.
Speaker 4: Get, caught or do you think it's because of another?
Speaker 1: Reason and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to. See
Speaker 1: we'll be right back after The east.
Speaker 3: MESSAGES i think the reason they don't get, CAUGHT i
Speaker 3: think they have a higher intelligence than your common animal
Speaker 3: out in the, woods so they're gonna use their smarts
Speaker 3: to not be. SEEN i think they forage during the.
Speaker 3: Day with any, animal night it's a whole different. Ballgame
Speaker 3: animals are way more active at night than they are
Speaker 3: during the. Day, bears mountain, lions it's better coverage better
Speaker 3: hunting for a lot of. Animals that's why people research at.
Speaker 3: Night but the amount of bigfoot researchers actually going out
Speaker 3: and researching is very small compared to the people who
Speaker 3: are day hiking that are just not into bigfoot at.
Speaker 3: ALL i think there's a lot OF b AND c
Speaker 3: class encounters that happen at, night where most of THE
Speaker 3: a class encounters are during the. DAY a lot of
Speaker 3: it's by hunters or, hikers not bigfoot, researchers BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: think bigfoot researchers have this mentality, like, oh it's got
Speaker 3: to be nighttime and they just kind of use the
Speaker 3: day to scout areas and look for, stuff but they're
Speaker 3: not really looking or would knock into my, OPINION i
Speaker 3: THINK i see that a. LOT i don't know that
Speaker 3: just from my. Opinion i'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 3: researchers that do daytime research too and, nighttime but it's
Speaker 3: just REALLY i think it's just a hit and, miss
Speaker 3: to be honest with, you at this, point there's a
Speaker 3: really set pattern of why nine time is better versus
Speaker 3: daytime or vice. Versa it's just everybody has an opinion on.
Speaker 3: That it's Like brian, said. Earlier i'm losing my train
Speaker 3: of thoughts on. THIS i said a lot of shit.
Speaker 3: Earlier that's why you're going back to all the stuff
Speaker 3: THAT i. Saw so let me put us back on
Speaker 3: track a little. Bit maybe this will jog your memory
Speaker 3: because this is something that comes up often with. Skeptics
Speaker 3: i'm a very skeptical.
Speaker 1: PERSON i am definitely one hundred percent in the knowwher
Speaker 1: camp based on my own. Experiences i'm not there wondering
Speaker 1: anymore if these things are. REAL i know they're. Real
Speaker 1: Now i'm moving into a different direction of what they,
Speaker 1: are why we haven't found, them why they're not scientifically,
Speaker 1: recognized all the, Things and that's something that comes up
Speaker 1: a lot in bigfoot. Research everybody goes out and does
Speaker 1: this thing for their own. Reasons my, REASON i want
Speaker 1: these things proven for. MYSELF i want them to be.
Speaker 1: Recognized you can call it, ego whatever you. WANT i
Speaker 1: want everybody else to know WHAT i, know AND i
Speaker 1: want them to realize that it's not a. Joke these
Speaker 1: things are. Real they're out, There these encounters that people
Speaker 1: have are. Real it's different for. Everybody i've asked that
Speaker 1: question multiple times of tons of. People i've, interviewed especially
Speaker 1: those that have had. Experiences why do you keep going?
Speaker 1: Out what drives? You is it more? Experiences do you
Speaker 1: want to have these things recognized by? Science all the,
Speaker 1: Things but one of the things that comes up for,
Speaker 1: skeptics they always, say there's so Many there's millions of
Speaker 1: people in the. Woods they're not all bigfoot. Researchers but
Speaker 1: there's millions of hikers out. There there's millions of. Hunters
Speaker 1: there's all these. People we would have found them by.
Speaker 1: Now people would have seen. Them they are seeing, them
Speaker 1: and they are reporting. THEM i think by and large
Speaker 1: most of those reports or those sightings go. Unreported that's
Speaker 1: why the numbers are a lot smaller than they. Are
Speaker 1: but here's the thing that people say all the. Time
Speaker 1: are drones the next? THING i don't think. So i've
Speaker 1: used a drone WHEN i was a tide Rupping. Radium
Speaker 1: he's got like a ten thousand dollars thermal. Drone we
Speaker 1: put it up multiple. Times we found a few deer
Speaker 1: here and. There BUT i tell, you even in the
Speaker 1: winter with everything, down the foliage is. GONE i just
Speaker 1: had my brand new. DRONE i just upgraded my. DRONE
Speaker 1: i had it out yesterday for the first, time a
Speaker 1: couple of thousand BUCKS i spent on this. Drone it is,
Speaker 1: phenomenal but you can't see shit because of the. Cover
Speaker 1: and there could have been a sasquatch in any of
Speaker 1: the areas THAT i flew. Over never would have saw
Speaker 1: it if it just stopped dead in its. Tracks that's
Speaker 1: one of those things we. BATTLE i battle with the
Speaker 1: skeptical people that say there's so many people out there
Speaker 1: looking for. THEM i don't think there. IS i think
Speaker 1: there might be one hundred and fifty maybe two hundred
Speaker 1: full time boots on the, ground and by full time weekend,
Speaker 1: warriors they're doing their day, job and then two days
Speaker 1: a week they're out in the woods as much as
Speaker 1: they possibly can be actually looking for these. Creatures then
Speaker 1: people say we should have found. THEM i think that's the, answer,
Speaker 1: honestly is because there's millions and millions of acres that
Speaker 1: they could be hiding in where there aren't. People because
Speaker 1: in order to have an experience or an, encounter you
Speaker 1: have to have a bigfoot and you have to have a.
Speaker 1: Person and if those two things aren't, intermingling the bigfoot's
Speaker 1: walking around unseen and the people are walking in the
Speaker 1: areas where there is a bigfoot and they're not reporting.
Speaker 1: That SO i guess that was a long winded question to,
Speaker 1: say what do you think it's gonna. Take what is
Speaker 1: your motivation for? This are you trying to get these
Speaker 1: things recognized by? Science is that one of the things
Speaker 1: that you? Want is it just more? Experience is what
Speaker 1: keeps you going in the? Research and then the second
Speaker 1: part of that question is what do you think it's
Speaker 1: gonna take for us to actually have something new and
Speaker 1: bigfoot some big discovery and bigfoot maybe that's them being
Speaker 1: recognized by. Science what do you think it's gonna take
Speaker 1: to get us?
Speaker 3: There so for me the first, Question i'm not trying
Speaker 3: to get these things proven by. Science there's kind of
Speaker 3: mixed emotions about that depends on who you. ASKED i
Speaker 3: think getting them proved by science is going to open
Speaker 3: a whole can of worms with legal logistics and stuff like,
Speaker 3: that AND i might make research, Harder but at the same,
Speaker 3: time it'd be cool to be, like, hey we told,
Speaker 3: you you, know we're not all. Crazy but for, ME
Speaker 3: i think it JUST i want to prove it to
Speaker 3: myself BECAUSE i grew up here in Like i've had
Speaker 3: family members WHEN i was a kid that had seen
Speaker 3: them before or seen one before and, stuff And i've
Speaker 3: always heard about. It it just drew me to, it
Speaker 3: and SO i just really want to prove it for
Speaker 3: myself and experience something not what other people get to. Experience. Ever,
Speaker 3: now as far as what it's going to take the
Speaker 3: next big, THING i think just thinking outside the. Box
Speaker 3: and don't get me, wrong being textbook researcher is, good
Speaker 3: but we've been doing textbook research for decades and decades
Speaker 3: and we're still at the same place we were decades
Speaker 3: and decades. AGO i really think like outside the box
Speaker 3: type of research is the best goal because like when
Speaker 3: we do, research man like we. DO i, mean, yeah
Speaker 3: we do, woodenox we do walk the road at night and.
Speaker 3: Everything we add that, in but we take it one step,
Speaker 3: further like we'll bring a laser light show and blast
Speaker 3: music from a boombox and just be really loud and
Speaker 3: rowdy and just having the time of our lives and
Speaker 3: hopefully that's going to bring something in if there's something
Speaker 3: close or with an earshot because people always. Play you'll
Speaker 3: see guitar at a campsite sometimes here and, there people play.
Speaker 3: Guitar that's not. News what's different than. That let's bring
Speaker 3: a projector and play movies on a screen and have
Speaker 3: a loud speaker blasting the movie and doing stuff like.
Speaker 3: THAT i think it's a viable way of, research just
Speaker 3: as doing wood knocks or anything like. That in my
Speaker 3: opinion on the, DRONES i think the drones are, nice
Speaker 3: like thermal. DRONES i do agree with, You brian THAT
Speaker 3: i don't think it's the. WAY i think it is
Speaker 3: a huge. Help if you heard a, drone they're. Loud
Speaker 3: something that flies over, that something intelligent is a big.
Speaker 3: Fit here's that it's going to get into cover and
Speaker 3: Beway SO i think he just REALLY i had to
Speaker 3: get lucky with the. Drone all of it is you
Speaker 3: have to Be it's all about right, place right, time
Speaker 3: to be, honest no matter what research you, do as
Speaker 3: we've seen research throughout the, years which is hit and.
Speaker 5: Miss to add To bron's, QUESTION i think drones can
Speaker 5: help in a. Way let's, say for, instance you saw
Speaker 5: a big foot tape and you saw it during. Daylight
Speaker 5: we could then, go let's get a drone there now
Speaker 5: and see it there when something's happening. DO i think
Speaker 5: scanning the forest and just doing it without having a
Speaker 5: clue of what could be. Where, No i'm not sure
Speaker 5: that's going to help at. All but something else to
Speaker 5: help prove this. Creature people have to. Believe, Now i've
Speaker 5: seen with my own eyes people go from not believing
Speaker 5: at all to knowing and believing in it.
Speaker 4: Fully that's the difference that people can.
Speaker 5: Make me being in THE, uk if you walk out
Speaker 5: into town and say, that do you know what bigfoot?
Speaker 5: Is they'll either laugh at you or go, NO i
Speaker 5: have no idea what that thing, Is go away and
Speaker 5: walk away from. Me if you guys do it in THE,
Speaker 5: us you have a fifty to fifty shot of getting
Speaker 5: someone who does. Know, now there are people out there
Speaker 5: that know and are just keeping them as. QUIET i
Speaker 5: did an event just last night and someone walked up
Speaker 5: to me really interested in. It it was A christmas
Speaker 5: fate and really interested and came and started just, Talking
Speaker 5: which means people are out there that know and that
Speaker 5: believe in all this paranormal bigfoot. Everything we just have
Speaker 5: to bring those people out and work.
Speaker 4: Together.
Speaker 5: Now unfortunately a lot of people can't work, together as
Speaker 5: we've all, seen which means if the more and more
Speaker 5: we can push together that the more and more we're
Speaker 5: going to move to prove what is, real the witness,
Speaker 5: sightings everything will help to pinpoint exactly where these things
Speaker 5: that are being. Sighted, now my thing to, you then,
Speaker 5: say is before we actually get to the bit of
Speaker 5: proving that this thing is, real you have to know
Speaker 5: how to. Research and one of the things that a
Speaker 5: lot of people don't, know AND i call them normal
Speaker 5: general members of the, public not that we, aren't but
Speaker 5: what advice would you give to new researchers that would
Speaker 5: like to out in the forest or are starting to
Speaker 5: out in the.
Speaker 3: Forest get to know the area that you're. In that's
Speaker 3: a huge. One be familiar with. That learn what animals
Speaker 3: are in your, area what, birds what creatures there. Are
Speaker 3: we get familiar with their sounds because like here In,
Speaker 3: florida you've never. Researched In, florida you hear, Cranes you
Speaker 3: hear these weird birds that make some weird sounding. Noises
Speaker 3: but you won't have that in The. Midwest you won't
Speaker 3: have that on The east. Coast THE us is so.
Speaker 3: Diverse you go To, louisiana it's way diverse. Here it's
Speaker 3: different in forty even though it's still swampy. Area you
Speaker 3: go to someplace Like New, mexico it's going to be way.
Speaker 3: Different it's going to be different Than, washington Where washington's
Speaker 3: going to be way different than The east coast in
Speaker 3: Like New york or something like In, midwest you got like,
Speaker 3: cicadas different animals that you don't have in these. Areas
Speaker 3: so learn about the animals in the area that you're
Speaker 3: going to be researching in and then learn about bigs
Speaker 3: at the same. Time that's the biggest ADVICE i would.
Speaker 3: Give and just be smart when you're out. There don't be.
Speaker 1: Dumb easier said than done for some of. Us before
Speaker 1: we get out of, Here, TADA i want to address
Speaker 1: the high strangeness part of, this because again this is
Speaker 1: something that comes. Up you mentioned having AN orb situation
Speaker 1: while you're simultaneously experiencing something With. Bigfoot how do you
Speaker 1: approach that as a researcher when it comes to separating
Speaker 1: the high strangeness from the bigfoot research or is it
Speaker 1: all somehow mixed together for?
Speaker 4: You how do you deal with.
Speaker 1: Maybe even your own high strangeness situations and or when
Speaker 1: people share those things with? You in relation To.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot for me, PERSONALLY i don't put too much stock into.
Speaker 3: It i'm a flesh and blood just besides that one,
Speaker 3: incident everything That i've ever had happened has been flesh and,
Speaker 3: blood expected, interactions no mind speak anything like. That So
Speaker 3: i'll let other people who are more invested into high
Speaker 3: strangeness when it comes To bigfoot research that and then
Speaker 3: figure out where everything falls into place later. On, yeah
Speaker 3: that's just WHERE i feel about. It it's just weird.
Speaker 3: Stuff and as far as WHAT i think about the
Speaker 3: org THAT i, SAW i was listening To cliff And
Speaker 3: bobbo's Show bigfoot And, beyond and there WAS i think
Speaker 3: it was an episode they were talking Or cliff was
Speaker 3: saying How matt Told cliff about there's like certain areas
Speaker 3: in The United states that have high electric magnetic fields or,
Speaker 3: whatever and it can actually cause balls of light and
Speaker 3: it's not natural. Thing it's an actual scientific thing that's
Speaker 3: way beyond my. Explaining SO i wonder if that's what.
Speaker 3: Happened BUT i feel like the people that have seen
Speaker 3: big for for the first time they don't know how
Speaker 3: to tell. People AND i Saw, BIGFOOT i don't know
Speaker 3: how to explain. It that's HOW i feel WHEN i
Speaker 3: saw THIS, Orb i'm, LIKE i don't know what to
Speaker 3: do or how to tell people about. It.
Speaker 5: WEIRD i will add that when you mentioned about lasting
Speaker 5: film out, there the best film to watch out the
Speaker 5: if anyone actually does, that IS.
Speaker 4: Et.
Speaker 3: OOH i just WATCHED et the other day a couple days.
Speaker 3: Ago such a good, Move.
Speaker 1: Tay we want to be respect for your time before
Speaker 1: we get out of. Here, man we know you have
Speaker 1: a YouTube, channel we know you do a. Podcast do
Speaker 1: you have anything else coming? Up tell us where we
Speaker 1: can find your show and what else you got going?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah so my YouTube channel is pretty easy to.
Speaker 3: Find it's just under my Name Tate. Hieronymous so IT'S
Speaker 3: TAT E H I e r oh and y m.
Speaker 3: Us you can find that on. YouTube i do a
Speaker 3: series Called sasquatch Has search For. Sab i've been doing.
Speaker 3: That i'm about to RELEASE i don't know when this
Speaker 3: is gonna come, out But december. TWENTIETH i have a
Speaker 3: new episode coming, out AND i just keep releasing. Content
Speaker 3: the Less drout interview THAT i just did was under
Speaker 3: a new. PODCAST i just Started Native giants. Podcast so
Speaker 3: are we doing. That so, yeah that's where you guys
Speaker 3: can find.
Speaker 1: Me we will definitely link to it in the show.
Speaker 1: Notes you guys go check it. Out, tait thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining me And. Daniel we had a blast
Speaker 1: talking to you man for.
Speaker 3: Sure thanks for having.
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