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As we close up bowl season and as we look
forward to the NFL Draft spring.
Speaker 2: Football, I'm getting ready to make another.
Speaker 3: Spreadsheet, Bay, Bay, we're just a few short months away.
Speaker 1: Are you doing the sheet of like when you were wrong?
Or like what was your spreadsheet? I'm going to be
exactly now.
Speaker 3: I have to do another spring record predictions because it
did so well this year. You know what I really
want to do that I haven't that I haven't done,
is get the exact percentage of how many games I
got right. The problem with that on the spreadsheet is
that some of the games are doubled, you know, because
you have a game like let's say, like South Colnin
and Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: It's listed on both of their schedules.
Speaker 3: So I can't just count the greens and the reds.
I have to go through and take out the games
that doubled.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no, because you work, because you can.
You can, actually no, because you're right, because you said
South Carolina is gonna win and Oklahoma's gonna lose.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then it's that simple. I'll get you a
percentage right after the show.
Speaker 2: Anyway. You can find us on Spotify.
Speaker 1: His wife do it, by the way, I'm back.
Speaker 3: She is a math teacher, so that would be easier.
We don't do math on the show. That's that's supposed
to be the deal.
Speaker 1: I don't do math for sure, all right, Craig.
Speaker 3: Before we get started, we've gotten our pleasantries out of
the way. We've let everybody know where they can find us,
because you don't want to miss the show as we
get into.
Speaker 1: The Apple and Spotify. By the way, so either or.
Speaker 3: Andy, maybe a shift in our release day. We've been
releasing on Gridiron Coast every Tuesday. We're considering backing that
up or maybe switching up the days. As the College
All Playoff has the funkiest schedule in all the land.
Speaker 1: We'll take the NFL model and as long as the
dayans and you might get might get something, but check
our socials. We make sure you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as the season rolls. I love the consistency of
releasing the same days each week. But now that we've
gotten into the Schoolship playoff world, where where the New
Year's Holiday is kind of controlling the calendar here to
begin with, and then we know how the National Championship
always gets funky and lands on a Monday we don't.
We don't want to have the show waiting three four
days after those games.
Speaker 2: So we want to get to you guys with those reactions.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna make sure that we do that coming
up here in the playoff, even even this week.
Speaker 2: This week we have games on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: On a Tuesday and night and Wednesday. Don't forget about
James Franklin. Come on now, James Franklin needs.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to him. We're gonna get to him.
Speaker 3: I have one QUESTIONNA have one question before we talk football.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I have a.
Speaker 2: Freshly brewed mug of coffee here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop name dropping the coffee that I'm drinking
until they send us some money.
Speaker 2: I'm going to stop until they send us money.
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I'm not advertising Happy number forty two, Buddy,
Happy forty two. Absolutely Robinson.
Speaker 2: We are rolling on to fifty episodes right here, and
it's just more so.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the deal. I want we give flowers to
a lot of folks. There are fifty two weeks in
a year. We have put out forty two podcasts and
we missed a couple. You know, we had to figure
out we had to flex, we had to adapt. But
here's the deal. Just like John Summer else tweeted this week,
adapt or die, and here is exactly what we have done.
We came up with this idea right about this time
last year, and then February third we put out our
first podcast and from that point on until just now,
we have done that. And here's what I love. There's
no ego. It's just two guys who have a lot
of fun sometimes bring our friends in waiting for a
nil sponsorship, Maxwell House, Strange Brew Coffee in Starkville, whatever
game Cock is going on, bring us on. But like
I just want to say with my friend, thank you
and I cannot wait to see what twenty twenty five
brings us.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely a big cheers of the coffee mugs or
whatever you have because you haven't told us yet. To you,
my friend, for keeping us rolling through the summer as
I had some personal family things going on my daughter
in the hospital and was unable to be on the show.
And you really held the boat above water, did a
superb job taking on all the responsibilities and not just
your normal line share of them and strong grenades. Et
Craig does do much more work than I do on
the show, Ladies and Gentlemen. For anybody who's not aware,
he's pulling all the strings behind the scenes, he pulls
in eighty percent of our guests.
Speaker 2: He's doing all the work. He's doing all the legwork.
Speaker 3: I'm just here to look pretty even though you can't
see me and run my mouth.
Speaker 1: Listen, I have a face for podcasting. That that is
all I bring to this, and I would rather like
listen at the end of the day. As I've said
to you, as I've said to gold Iron Coast, there's
no one else I'd I'd rather do this with.
Speaker 3: It's It's been an incredible it's been an incredible twenty
twenty four, and so with this episode releasing on New
Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's worth celebrating.
Speaker 1: Quaintance.
Speaker 2: I will forget, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Do you do a champagne on New Year's I'm gonna
be no.
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know the last time that
I was awake.
Speaker 1: For New Year's You're not doing Clark's New Year's Rock
and Eve with Who's that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Who does Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Carson Beck, No.
Speaker 2: Carson Daily. I think might have been what you were
reaching for. I was thinking no, But this year.
Speaker 3: I'll be in Orlando, so I'll think I will be
up because I'm going to watch the game after the
Citrus Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm going to find a nice spot.
Speaker 3: If anybody has recommendations, by the way, please go ahead,
and I'll be in Orlando at this point.
Speaker 1: A good Top Golf in Orlando. So if if Top
Golf wants to sponsor us, there's an athletic director that
I know that would be interested in partnering with you.
But speaking of which, the Top Golf in Orlando, we
did that after one of our conferences back in the spring,
and they have a really good spread. They have a
and what I found is have you had the food there?
Have you been in Top Golf?
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I'm about ten minutes from one, so yeah, the food
is legit.
Speaker 1: So love me some Top Golf. And if Top Golf
wants to figure out how to make it about football
and coffee and top golf, we're all there.
Speaker 3: They have a really I did a fantasy draft for
NFL at the Top Golf once and the one closest
to us.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's like this at every year location.
Speaker 3: But on the second floor there there is just a
there's no there's a there's a bar there with a
lot of tables and a giant projector and then multiple
TVs around the.
Speaker 2: Big screen in the in the center.
Speaker 3: And I made the comment to the guys several times
and actually that fancy draft we didn't We did not play,
We didn't do any top golf.
Speaker 2: We were just in that bar area.
Speaker 3: And I made the suggestion to the guys, like, there's
so many sporting events where this would be a prime
location just to go and want just to chill out
and watch the games because you're gonna have multiple TVs.
The weather's nice, it's kind of indoor outdoor feel. If
you want to go hit some balls, you can hit
some balls.
Speaker 2: The food is great. So anyway, yeah, we have golf right.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give them one more free flood because
you know that's what we do. Maxwell House, Strange Rooth Coffee.
But no, we went for a sales conference at the
Top Golf and they had a conference room and it
was cool again on the second level, just behind the bar,
you got a couple of drink tickets. Look at it.
They then open it up and then, which I thought
was really smart, they put six of us per bay.
They put a sales associate with us and shout out
to the sales associate. I will not name that that
that company, because you know, they may need me for
work and I don't want to give them any you know,
conflicting interest. But they sat there, they played golf with us.
They you know, they allowed us to you know, just
have have a good time. But like you know, Top Golf,
I think, I think does it right. So I'm you know, yeah,
absolutely well, love us the top Golf.
Speaker 3: So I had suggestion of where I should watch James
Franklin blow it against Boise Gosh. I wasn't supposed to
say that yet. We haven't gotten to that segment in Orlando.
Any spot for me to watch the game. I'm staying
near the point, and so I'm gonna walk. It's it's
an area. It's kind of near Disney Springs, but it's
kind of the The Rosen Plaza is there.
Speaker 2: It's an entertainment plaza.
Speaker 1: I was at a conference. The Rosan Plaza is got
like the bigger hotel. Yeah, got all the restaurants. So
funny part about this so April. I was there for
a conference, and again at a conference, when you're a
person in sales, what is your job at a conference
to meet new clients? Right Instead, when we were setting up,
one of our current clients called us and said, hey,
we have a new deal. So I spent the next
three days at that conference out by the pool negotiating
that new deal. Was able to create one new partnership,
was able to kind of get out there. There's a
spot there. I will find the name of it. Now,
we'll get up to you after the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so walking distance to everything in that area, So
anybody has suggestions.
Speaker 2: Craig parent was going to hit me up.
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, there's a tapas place right right
over there if you do tap us over there. There
was a really cool spot. That's where we went for dinner.
Cool cool spot. The cool end of this story, and
I'm sure everyone's, you know, on the edge of their
seat listening, is I had to pitch the deal. I
had to actually do our formal proposal. I had to
go to the Delta sky Club four hours before my flight. Now,
those of you that know the Delta sky Club, Pinky's up.
Everybody know that you can only get in there three hours.
I looked at them and said, I have a blank
figure deal that I need to pitch. I need your
business office, to which they said, Mistermichael, please go this
way pitch the deal took my two and a half
hour flight home to Detroit. As I get back, the
client calls and says, hey, can we negotiate? Sat down
instead of going home, negotiated the deal at the terminal
in Detroit and finally made the edits send it over
to them, And as I was driving home after a long,
long week, we signed the deal.
Speaker 2: Hey, closers, closed, ladies and gentlemen, what can we say?
And that always be closed, always be closing, And that's
what Craig does. That's what Craig does.
Speaker 3: Hey, so, if if anybody has a spot for me
to walk to around the Point in Orlando, let me know.
Craig's gonna hook me up. I think I'm pretty much
screwed if we're being honest. South Colina plays at three.
Speaker 2: So by the time I get back to my hotel
to drop the car.
Speaker 1: Off, like right in the middle of like nap time
and dinner time, that's like the worst time to play.
Speaker 3: Well, the game is at three, and so after we
go to the game, we're gonna go back to the hotel,
drop the car off, and then find somewhere to go,
grab dinner and watch the game. But the game's at
seven thirty. So South Carolina's game is gonna be over
at what six thirty? It's gonna be a twenty minute
drive down, thirty minute drive down, it's gonna be seven o'clock,
and we're gonna be searching for somewhere to eat in
the middle of everything in Orlando on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Can I Can I give you the name of the
place that I was talking about?
Speaker 2: Yes, go for it.
Speaker 1: Cafe to two Tango.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've actually seen several things about this place.
Speaker 1: Uh, just just to give you an idea. Tap us
are really good. The drinks are also really good.
Speaker 3: I've heard they're going all out for New Year's I've
seen a couple of things on X about this place.
Speaker 1: All right, it was it was. It was totally off
the hook. And by the way, congratulations two of us,
because what did I text you yesterday? How are we
going to go off the guard rails. We went two
years in Orlando guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, let's just finish out, finish it out
with a toast to us as we said before, to
many more, to many more episodes where it just means
more football and coffee.
Speaker 2: Let's get started with I was wrong. We have to
start here because we have other things to discuss, but
I want to go.
Speaker 3: Okay, So first of all, you called me out because
I said that Shuder Sanders and Travis Hunter care about
bowl games.
Speaker 2: Bowl games matter. Colorado was going to bring the fight.
They did not.
Speaker 3: It was It was not It was not not even competitive. However,
I will say they did care, so the bowl game
did mean something to them. They just weren't able to
compete on the field.
Speaker 1: So is by you that good?
Speaker 3: Like last night?
Speaker 2: They were?
Speaker 1: The Cougar tail was that strong last night?
Speaker 2: It was? I just think it was a bad matchup.
If I'm being honest, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think that you. I think that Colorado maybe was weird.
Speaker 1: It was a Pac twelve matchup, though, Wasn't it like.
Speaker 3: A Big twelve matchup? The Pack twelve doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: That too anyway, So like I and again I asked
this in the chat last night. It was like, right,
you know Big twelve. It's like Big twelve is your
Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a legacy PAC twelve bid that existed this
year and next year. So they're they're rolling the dice
on getting a Big ten team like a like a
UCLA or USC in that game.
Speaker 2: But it didn't work out. It did not work out.
Speaker 1: You were wrong. I was did like, so again your homework,
does Shador do enough in the He's.
Speaker 3: Not a part of that. He doesn't have anywhere to
go up. For those of you who don't know what
we're talking about, I just cut Craig off.
Speaker 2: Sorry. Last week I made this.
Speaker 3: I made the statement that there will be players who
will play in bowl games and up their draft stock.
Speaker 2: Cannot be in that. He cannot be in that category,
at least the top five pick. Where's he gonna go?
You can't go up from there?
Speaker 1: I know. Do we have a list so far of
those players that have totally just wow, everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm working on it, but you know, we're really getting
into the thick of the quality games at this point.
So you don't worry. You told me to have it
ready for you during draft season. We're nowhere close to that. However,
I'm gonna have it to you before that, because we
still have half of January and February the Dark the
Dark Times to make it through, and I'm going to
have some content for you right there.
Speaker 2: Don't you worry about it. I was wrong. I was wrong.
Speaker 3: Colorado did not bring the fight. I was also wrong
as we went through and uh, and we looked at
our SEC matchups. Yep, I was wrong about Texas Tech
and Arkansas.
Speaker 2: As were you.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to them.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to them.
Speaker 1: Did Texas tex show up?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, super, I was super wrong about at
some point and that and that's Arkansas for you.
Speaker 1: What is Arkansas like? So hang on real quick.
Speaker 2: We're melting. We're melting segments together right now.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it works. I know you're you're worried about
your agenda, but it'll all work out.
Speaker 3: I am because I have one thing to say about
where you were wrong, and it has nothing to do
with the SEC, and I just need.
Speaker 2: To say, get it.
Speaker 1: I was quoted anyway, So Sam Pittman shout out. You
won your bowl game. You're better than Hugh.
Speaker 2: Freeze, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: What is Arkansas? Like? I don't know what.
Speaker 3: They're exactly what we thought they were, Craig, They're exactly
what they thought what they thought they were just middle
of a pack. Like they can clip you any week
and you can roll them any week.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly what. But I think they don't do
not play with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is question question would your wife allow you
to have the hog that Sam Pittman has over the
pool like like the water coming out? Have you seen this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And an answer is now mine wouldn't either. I'm
thinking absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Shout off Sam Pitman. Can you get an extension? Police
canting him three years? Because here's the deal, Pittman is
going to go to a bull game. Here. Here's the
other thing, is like three and oh one bowl games.
So like at the end of the day, because.
Speaker 3: He motivates, because his guys he's a relationships guy.
Speaker 2: So his guys like him. Because that's never the problem.
Exactly everybody like them.
Speaker 1: They like them and until old mis gives them more
money and then they've tried the line.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure but sure, but when you're in a bowl
game setting, a lot of times it really is who
wants it more?
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Bowl games are like rebounds, except.
Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about Miami out or not?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 3: We can talk about them. But let me just say
this really quick, because this is where you were wrong.
We played a game last week. It was a really
fun game, yep. And we and I and I lined
up teams from all four power conferences and I.
Speaker 2: Gave you.
Speaker 1: That was a good game.
Speaker 3: I gave you the matchup of where they landed, like
if it was eleventh.
Speaker 2: I gave you all four.
Speaker 3: Eleventh place teams from Big twelve, Big ten, acc SEC right, yep.
And and in one of those matchups, I don't even
remember who the who the teams that are matched up
with were.
Speaker 2: But you picked n C State because you like Dave
Dorian and it was wrong last night.
Speaker 1: Shout out you.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my guy Rajah Harris from right here
in Duncan, South Carolina at Burns High School, who not
only broke records last night, but just destroyed n C
State and rips off an eighty six yard touchdown run
uh to win it for the Pirates.
Speaker 1: Je Blake Carroll. Blake Carroll was the interim coach, got
named as the new head coach. I'm curious to see
if does Dave Dorm get fired, like you don't lose
No Carolina.
Speaker 2: No, you know when he'll get fired.
Speaker 1: What are you telling football doesn't matter enough in North
Carolina State? Yes, can we bring you back Chuckle Moto
and the Glasses.
Speaker 3: You realize that they play again opening week of next year,
these two teams.
Speaker 1: But hang, hang on, let's not gloss over Chuckle Madlo.
You remember Chuckle Moto and Philip Rivers or were you
too young? Were you still in diapers at that point?
Speaker 2: I was, I was. I wasn't in diapers that I
was pretty young.
Speaker 1: I was pretty young, Like like I remember these San
Diego right, but but like these are my memories of
NC State of Chuck Sardow and like the Oakleys and
then Philip there was a time for probably the worst
throwing motion quarterback ever he does.
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's honestly amazing that he hasn't had
to have like Tommy.
Speaker 1: John kidnapped kidding out of the n C State. By
the way, he has like does he have like twelve kids?
Speaker 2: Yes, something like that. I don't know the exact number.
Speaker 1: He's got a few.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure he was about to say,
I'm not sure he believes in uh prevention.
Speaker 1: There it's all good. Listen. He has bad throwing motion,
but it works.
Speaker 2: He's sitting the target somewhere else anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, like like Dave Goren though, like, how do
you lose to East Carolina? Like, I'm sorry, like.
Speaker 2: You, it's a bowl game.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter like a hanging shots the a SEC
against the spread.
Speaker 2: And nine. I mean they're.
Speaker 1: Brad Conference updated in ten.
Speaker 3: O in ten gets a spread, but it's one to
nine in general? Right have they only won one game?
Speaker 1: I don't know who won.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fact I'm gonna fact check it while we're
talking about it, while we're on the while we're on
the the a c C, which, who the heck knows
what we're even talking about this, Let's talk about Miami
just quickly.
Speaker 1: Yep, they crystal ball. Crystal balling is an action, Burb.
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still checking Syracuse. That would be your
one team.
Speaker 1: Frand Brown. Fran Brown, he's a dog man. He is
so good.
Speaker 3: Remaining remaining games for the a c C or Washington
and Louisville. So they got to they got a decent
that's a count.
Speaker 1: No, it does, because they're they're they're they're an honor.
Very easy as you member.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, Washington and Louisville. Washington and Louisville.
Louisville is a two and a half point favorite. Duke
can all miss. Very funny.
Speaker 3: And then uh, Virginia Tech and Minnesota where Minnesota is
a seven and a half point favorite against the Hokies.
Speaker 1: Who's watching Virginia Tech Minnesota?
Speaker 3: I'm watching it. That's the that's the Mayo Bowl. People
will watch that for the Mayo Dump. But it's also
on Friday at seven point thirty. So my guess is
there's not another There's not probably not another game on
that that.
Speaker 1: That's a you're out with your friends hanging out having
a good time in that time in the background, or
you're a degenerate and you're watching that game for interest.
Speaker 3: I'm raising my hand as the degenerate and also the
guy with two small children, which means I will probably
not be out with any friends on a Friday night
to have that in the background, So I'll.
Speaker 1: Probably watch listen. I'm sure I'll be texting you or
we'll be talking, so it'll be fine.
Speaker 3: All right, Miami, Crystal Bald, What are our thoughts on
cam Ward? So he plays the first half, he breaks
the record for the most touchdowns all time in the
n C double a uh passing case keenum yep, and
then he sits the second half. Shout out again to
our guy, Brad Crawford, this is too. Brad Crawford mentions
in one episode, Brad, where are you answer my DM?
Speaker 2: Buddy? We're trying to get on the show.
Speaker 3: But once again he lets Brad lets us know that
this was a predetermined decision and we just didn't find
out until real time.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 2: We know my thoughts? Oh my gosh, who cares? This?
This is exactly It's exactly how we got.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Sue Landel, who should also come on
the pod, who summed up perfectly. You allowed cam to
get the record, check mark awesome. You also were able
to evaluate your quarterback for next year. Check mark awesome. Great,
you didn't win the bowl game? Who gives a crap?
Speaker 3: First of all, props to Year for making that clean.
Second of all, this is terrible. This is exactly this
is exactly how we got to the quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Meaningless Bowl game.
Speaker 3: This is how we got when Leonard Fournette opted out
of a bowl game years ago, and everybody latched on
and oh, this is just incredible, like this shout out
to him looking out for his money, and this is
what they need to do and other players should follow suit.
And all the national media just got onto this train
of this is what Fournette did, and then McCaffrey did it,
and then this guy does it, and then it just
snowballed on us till we got to the point of.
Speaker 2: So many players opting out. This year, we've seen the
tables turn a good bit. There's lots of players that have.
Speaker 3: Said, you know what, get that these games matter. We
want to play with our guys.
Speaker 2: This is football. You get one last chance, you get
one last chance to go.
Speaker 1: Get your come on, stop stop with the We care
and it's all about the game.
Speaker 3: And this is a high profile This is a high
profile player in a game that everybody was watching. Because
the media team for the Pop Tars Bowl is incredible
and people want to see the giant Pop Tar Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 2: So everybody's tuned in. You got two teams.
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought that the Tops, the sugar allergy
and like couldn't do a pop tart?
Speaker 2: Okay, stop it, No, have you thought about that? No,
just stop it, just absolutely stop it.
Speaker 3: That is not the case. This is the type of profile. No,
he could just he could just not eat the pop tart.
What do you know, you can you can actually win
the game and not.
Speaker 1: My gosh, this pop tart sacrificed himself. He gave himself
up so that everybody was just gonna have a little frosting.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this is sitting.
Speaker 1: Wait, this is the type of.
Speaker 2: Thing that people latch onto and it snowballs on us.
Speaker 1: Again, listen, it doesn't matter because here, you know what matters.
Speaker 2: It's selfish.
Speaker 1: That's cinnamon roll pop Tart was the one that got selected.
The strawberry pop Tart was over the scoreboard. And here's
the deal. It didn't matter whether Iowa State or Miami
or whoever won that game. At the end of the day,
all anybody was talking about. No one cared that the
Hawkeyes won, No one cared that the Hurricanes. What they
cared about was the market.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna step in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna step in correct and correct you because you
just called Iowa State the Hawkeyes instead of the Cyclones.
Speaker 2: Wrong, Iowa School, They're going to be mad at you.
Speaker 1: Out there and aims, Oh what the five people who
like like okay, outside of.
Speaker 3: Andrew, out of the five people and in Ames, Iowa,
how many of them are listening to our podcast.
Speaker 1: Speaking which shout out to the college fun choir, Dan Mutzell,
Pat forty, come to the sip, come onto the pod.
Have you heard like the water is Better in Ames
on their pod podcast? There is some sort of song.
It's fantastic, It's absolutely fantastic. But here's the deal, is
Matt So here's more importantly your question, should Oregon win
Oregon or Oregon depending on where you're from. Is Matt
Campbell the right option to replace Ran Day?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, thank you? All right, that's it. No. So, so
cam Ward was right and doing what he did, he.
Speaker 3: Got us absolutely not as horrendous. It's absolutely horrendous. Okay,
we gotta stop.
Speaker 1: Clutch your pearl, clutch pearls.
Speaker 3: Let's go talk about the SEC because it just means more.
And that's why we showed up. And if if we
haven't run everybody else we.
Speaker 1: Talked about the SEC so far, I feel like we've
talked about everything else about.
Speaker 2: The Well we talked about Arkansas.
Speaker 3: The other big winner, the other big winner of the
of the week for the SEC was Vanderbilt, who was
in our most intriguing game.
Speaker 2: The game that we that were the officials Vanderbilt and
Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: How much should they pay the officials because it felt
like everything No, like I listen at the end.
Speaker 2: Are you for Georgia Tech right now? No?
Speaker 1: I don't care. But what I love is that Brent
Key said a word that rhymes with truck and told
the officials where to go, and like it's fantastic, like
his emotion and passion, and I think what what happened
at some point in the third quarter, Georgia Tech basically said,
at this game, the officials don't care about us, and
they didn't care. And then all of a sudden, like
Vanderbilt like ripped off a couple of touchdowns. Like I
thought was interesting what he said after the game. He goes,
it was almost a challenge to clerk Lee. He goes,
I'll be back if if the coaching staff's intact, and like,
I thought that was interesting not only to clerk Lee,
but also the Vanderbilt administration because.
Speaker 3: I think what you look like is more the administration
than they're going to write those contracts.
Speaker 1: Because you look at like Tim Becker, who's the offensive coordinator.
For those of you that know are not calling Vanderbilt
football and not nerds like the two of us, Well.
Speaker 2: It's also Jerry Kill and the and the quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 1: Stop Jerry Kill stop a Jerry Kill stop a Jerke
Killary is the reason go put on your ugly sweater
for Christmas. Tim Beck, with what he does with that offense,
I think is interesting. Yeah, does that work beyond Vanderbilt?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well it worked, Say.
Speaker 1: Again, does it work beyond Vanderbilt? I would think New
Mexico State is even below Vanderbilt, But like, does it
work at Auburn Florida? You know, like.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work at Florida?
Speaker 1: What works in Florida?
Speaker 2: I'm so flying fun and Gun. We've just had this discussion.
Chunky aared out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, at the end of the day, I'm interested
to see, Like I like Pavia, I like his energy.
Sure he was a three sport athlete by the way,
in New Mexico did the Juco route. It's got an
extra year. And now because of that, which I think
is interesting.
Speaker 2: I think that's a joke. But that's that's an argument
for another day.
Speaker 1: Okay, mister bulls matter. But the kid who plays juco
like all of a sudden gets punished for that, Go
ahead and tell me why what are.
Speaker 2: We what are we doing?
Speaker 3: We're gonna have twenty five year olds in college going
up against eighteen year olds if we go this route.
Speaker 2: So that's not no, no, absolute not.
Speaker 1: Wait, your argument is no, absolutely not like that.
Speaker 3: My argument argument argument is this is not that's not
even a matchup?
Speaker 1: Argument is no that no, absolutely not that. That's your argument.
Speaker 2: Now that's just my that's just my preamble from my argument.
Speaker 1: All right, what is the constitution? Then? Since you had
your preamble, a twenty five Jefferson.
Speaker 3: A twenty five year old man mash up against an
eighteen year old kid is not a fair matchup in
any world.
Speaker 2: It's also going to.
Speaker 3: Eliminate eliminates high school recruiting. No, it doesn't just just
get everybody, just send everybody?
Speaker 1: Does it takes no here's the deal. Send everybody, stop
for a second. It takes your three stars, hand three
stars and two stars and kicks them to JUCO. Who cares.
They either go to JUCO. They can't give How is
it any different? How is it any different?
Speaker 3: It's different because if you go to the group of
five and you don't go to JUCO, then you don't
get six years.
Speaker 2: You still get your five or four, five whatever, seven years.
I guess listen, because you're gonna play two years at
JUC then you're gonna get five to play four at the.
Speaker 1: End of the day. If you're good enough, and let's
be honest, Pove is not good enough. If you're good
enough to go to the league, you're not right. It's
just five six years. So let them play. Who gives
it crap? Let them because you're all about letting them
play in the bowl game. Let them play in the
bowl games. Great, let them play in JUCO. Let them
do it.
Speaker 2: I found it playing something we should. No, No, we
just don't need to grant them an extra two years.
I get it.
Speaker 1: That will give me a little argument why you can
why you can limit their ability.
Speaker 2: Because because they're tied to the school, there has to be.
There has to be term limits and eligibility on this
or anything.
Speaker 1: The kid from he was like a ninth year senior.
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have thirty five year olds playing college football
that have been been in it for fifteen years.
Speaker 2: We're on a slippery slope. We're on a slippery slope.
Speaker 1: Then put on your put on your put on your
snow shoes. Sweetheart, let's go.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Oklahoma?
Speaker 1: Hey, would you say Oklahoma? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Said Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Oh? Good. Seven that's the number for Oklahoma. If you
want to look at success Oklahoma, Boomer Sooner, our good
friend Kate, who is an Oklahoma fan, I bring you
up the number seven. Oklahoma has now gone through three
defensive coordinators and four offensive coordinators in three years. That's
a lot of change. And that's not great. And here's
the deal.
Speaker 2: If we take a long shot at bidibles.
Speaker 1: Oh there's no shot. It's just your incompetent. Uh so.
So Bread Venerables had a new Zach Ailey was his
defensive coordinator last year. Zach is a young mind. He
was a defensive coordinator at Jacksonville State who was a
co defensive coordinator at Boise State, he was an early
or a co defensive coordinator. This year at Oklahoma. He
decided after the end of this year that rather than
stay at Oklahoma an SEC program, a program of excellence
somewhere that's been great, and to stay with a coach
that he spent four years as a grand assistant at
Crumpson with, he said that I'm good, I'm going to Morgantown,
Fort Rodriguez. What does that say about Oklahoma? Oh? Yes, Seth,
the trail was the wrong higher because he runs the
air raid in Oklahoma. And what did we say all year?
Sure the offense was trash, but the defense was pretty good.
But yet we have the defensive coordinator from Oklahoma who
was allegedly an SEC school going to no offense, Travis
the bottom of the barrel, big twelve school in West Virginia.
Please tell me how it's going so well in Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: And nobody ever said it was going well. And this
this lost, the Navy did not look great.
Speaker 1: The one the one moment in the first quarter like
five minutes then where they have fourteen.
Speaker 2: Was the final score twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 1: When did Oklahoma score the last touchdown at the very
end of the game. So they went like four quarters,
basically three they went three quarters.
Speaker 3: They went three quarters because after the first quarter everything
changed and it became a rock fight.
Speaker 2: And then miraculously they get.
Speaker 3: A score at the end, and I was like, wow, what,
I'm incredibly entertained.
Speaker 2: Here we go. I've been bored to sleep through the
second and third and most of the fourth quarter, and
finally we get it.
Speaker 3: And I will say, shout out to to BV for
going for two just to end it right there.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna blathe them. No, you're got to get
the two. Brother. It's not just a shoutout we're going
for you.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna shout out.
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to shout out the decision because we
would have applauded him had he had They gotten.
Speaker 1: It, and the trophy your generations, everyone gets the trophy
back in my day.
Speaker 3: Don't put me in that everybody gets a trophy. God,
absolutely not. But I admire, I admire having the stones
to make the call.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It was
a great call.
Speaker 1: I have the right call to get that two points.
Speaker 3: That's probably true. I agree with you on all accounts
at this point. Like I've been of the give him time,
give him time, give him time, and I will I
will say it's not time to fire him Venibles, it's
not time.
Speaker 1: There's forty four million reasons why he's not fired right now.
There's thirty five million reasons next season why he might
not be fired next year. I think. So here's the deal.
Joe castig Leone was a gangster of an ad until
Lincoln Riley. Since Lincoln Riiley, it has been missed up
after missed up after missed up. And I think you
could see the boosters say, Joe, you and Brent are
done after twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that was a beautiful segue. But I'm gonna
say one more thing about Oklahoma. But before we moved
to Lincoln Riley, I think that obviously the offense is
what was missing. We'll see if I think the defense
stays intact, because ultimately Ventables is gonna gonna control that,
whether his Morgantown or not. Yeah, I think I think
he's I think that he's just he's just calling the
shots that way anyway. Yeah. Uh, but I think I
think that Materier coming in at quarterback and also bringing
in his offensive coordinators so you kind of keep them together.
Speaker 2: Is is an interesting move the.
Speaker 1: Number sixty five offense that Washington State was this year, that's.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's an interesting move because you could
you're theoretically going to put more weapons around him than
what he had at Washington State.
Speaker 1: Would the ones that are in the transfer portal or
which was walking there offencing right now?
Speaker 2: It's Oklahoma. There's always offensive weapons.
Speaker 3: They had five their five leading receivers were injured this year.
Speaker 1: I think the transfer for three or four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the trenches are more of a certain for me.
They need to fix you kill positions are they're in
the portal. They're in the portal.
Speaker 3: You're right, But they've got to fix their offensive line
before they do anything else. And it's not a coaching problem.
They just lost all their personnel leading into last year.
Speaker 2: They left.
Speaker 1: Oh, the personal just left. Coaches had nothing to else.
I'm leaving.
Speaker 3: I don't have the intel to be quite honest with
you as to why they left.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. We need three sources to check the
fact that like it's a dumpster fire in Norman and
that everyone wants to leave, and.
Speaker 2: I think they'll be better. I think they'll be better
next year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the.
Speaker 3: Right that's that's what I was about to finish with it.
I don't know if I don't know if it's better
enough to keep him intact.
Speaker 1: But what is better for you? Is it eight wins?
Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think it's a I
don't think it's a number of wins. I think it's
a I think it's a a confidence in the offense
and a competitiveness across all games, not just a random
fluke against Bama.
Speaker 1: You look at their schedule.
Speaker 2: I saved them this year though.
Speaker 1: So here's here's the whole work assignment for the readers.
They go to. It's like November sixteenth, listeners, readers, same
difference November sixteen. Yeah, I don't think Brent makes it.
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Speaker 2: Cut All right?
Speaker 3: Moving on to Texas A and M and USC quickly, Hey,
question question male cheerleaders.
Speaker 2: What happened guys?
Speaker 1: Uh? Did the quarterback won the hets one?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 1: Nope? Where was it? They were seven and one?
Speaker 2: Yeah they were.
Speaker 1: They had the inside tracks to Atlanta and they finished
the season four. What did they finished? Four and four? No?
One and four?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did South Carolina did so broke? Did South Carolina ruin
their season?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they broke them.
Speaker 2: They broke them. It blew up. It blew up in Columbia.
How do you like?
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: The second half?
Speaker 3: The second half against South Carolina was absolutely brutal, and
uh it did.
Speaker 2: They didn't seem to recover.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you can just put it
on one game like that, but it did kind of
put a blueprint out for what could happen.
Speaker 2: I think they got over hyped because of what they did.
Speaker 1: Lagman hit the portal, Yes, where do you go? And
as he landed, he has problems.
Speaker 2: Georgian attacked, you'll love this statement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were over hyped because of what they did
to l s U. And then we found out that
LSU was not as good as we thought they were.
Speaker 1: Lou I didn't say that, it was Rob.
Speaker 3: I think l s U comes back with reckoning next year.
There's they're they're stacking talent.
Speaker 1: And I need you needed a coach to coach that talent.
Speaker 3: I still believe in US. I'm still enough myer nus
Meyer bandwagoner.
Speaker 1: How many attractions Rob was wrong about?
Speaker 3: You'll get that preview letter. Okay, A and M falls
apart up seventeen against USC, Lincoln Riley squad gets up.
Speaker 2: Did you what that? Heck? Who in the world thought
that the Trojans would be the ones to say, you
know what, we're going to fight on through the end
of the bowl game.
Speaker 3: If anybody was going to check out in bowl season,
I would I would have taken a five hundred USC team.
Speaker 2: That's for dang sure, by.
Speaker 3: The way, their starting quarterback to start the year, their
best wide receiver and several others are also in the
transfer portal, and we're not on the field for.
Speaker 1: Them, Jade and Mavia. What was he committed to the
Dogs for like twenty five seconds, long enough for me
to write an article and have it published for him
to commit, Yeah, the bullet What a weird season. I
saw some crazy stats too, like USC had more wins
than like Kentucky and Mississippi State and SEC. They booken
their seasons like they lose to like Maryland. It's like,
it's just like, here's the deal.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind how tight they played Penn State.
Speaker 1: I have opinions on Penn State, but I'm going to
leave them because I almost said what I thought. But
I also knew this was a kid friendly podcast.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm throwing That's why I'm just sprinkling that.
Speaker 1: But you know that, like I have opinions, is it
kid friendly? It was not.
Speaker 3: We have that e it'side our day a lot of
times anyway.
Speaker 1: We want to believe at the end of the day,
we want to believe that Mike Elco is something more
than what Jimbo Fisher is. But at the end of
the day, whether you're Kevin Someone, Jimbo Fisher or Mike Alco,
you're going seven and five seven eight is your number. Yeah,
it is your ceiling. And I think he impressed me.
He impressed me this year because it was your one.
And I think that my.
Speaker 2: Expectations of them, my expectations.
Speaker 3: Of them were much lower than him hitting that normal
baseline just because they did have they had a mass
excedence of talent. Most of the class of all classes
that Jimbo had a few years ago is gone, and
so you were kind of left with a different crop
of guys. I'll be really interested to see next year,
if sure, but year three for Elco because now with
the portal, by year three, I think, I think by
year three, you have completely flipped your roster.
Speaker 2: And that'll be my evaluation point.
Speaker 1: For him for being now your roster.
Speaker 2: That's a little quick for that's still quick.
Speaker 1: For me, maybe quick for you, sweetheart, But it's reality.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not all these go call go call
the Gators, or head on down to the planes and
check with Auburn and and let me know what happens
when you fire coaches after two years.
Speaker 1: Give me a coach is worth of damn and I'll
actually show you something.
Speaker 3: If we keep rolling the coaches over, you don't ever
give them time to establish anything.
Speaker 2: Culture, culture still matters, okay, Aslan Kiffin, heck, hang.
Speaker 1: Them, hang them, okay, hang now that now that you
now that you've poked a bear.
Speaker 2: Here comes some rant about how Lane is the best,
and he.
Speaker 3: His guys know what they're getting, what they're signing up for,
and that he is the master of mercenaries, and YadA YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Will you laying alone?
Speaker 2: The reason that they underachieve is because the culture is
the mercenary culture. Nobody cares about anybody. Nobody cares about anybody.
One Jackson dark cares.
Speaker 1: Jackson don't always cares. Jackson Dart is of dogs. Did
you see Jackson the way.
Speaker 2: The Jackson d Jackson darts different. Oh, Jackson, Jackson Dart
is different than juice?
Speaker 1: Wellskake, you're ready. Lane Kiffen was five and five in
year one, ten and three, eight and five, eleven, two,
nine and three, as soon to be ten and three,
and they were in a hell of a lot worse spot.
Speaker 2: That's overachieving for old miss, but that's underachieving for the
talent roster. Is that fair or unfair of a statement?
Speaker 1: Fair?
Speaker 2: Unfair?
Speaker 3: No, This year at ninety three is overachieving. For old
miss standards in general.
Speaker 2: But it's underachieving for the talent that he had on
the roster.
Speaker 1: That's fair. We said that, I have agreed to it.
Speaker 3: And the games that they lost were games they had
no business losing because they weren't they they weren't jailed.
Speaker 1: We would be in city grocery this week last weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, life if if the culture was better, culture
still matters.
Speaker 1: Culture.
Speaker 3: You know who doesn't have It's exactly, it's just a
different type of It's just a different type of culture
than what I would.
Speaker 1: I always say, different than our how to State's culture.
Speaker 2: I just said that.
Speaker 3: I just said that you got you got all fired
up and tested and got your panties in a wad.
And didn't hear me say, Ryan Day right after I
said Lane Kiffin, I said the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: Don't give me, don't.
Speaker 3: Care on the hot seat, Ryan, you freeze. Okay, that's
bad culture too. Then the hoteally different direction. Let's go there,
walk or white. While we're here, we're.
Speaker 2: Done with A and M. Let's talk portal for just
a minute.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're you're back up at Auburn is in the portal,
backup quarterback. He goes to Baylor and the statement is
that he can't wait for a real plan to develop quarterbacks.
Let's just call it like it is. That's a shot.
That is a shot.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was.
Speaker 1: Of everything that we said on this podcast.
Speaker 2: He's I feel like Hugh Freeze has just checked out.
Speaker 1: Damn Mrady. Is he got paid?
Speaker 3: I think he's checked out? What's the point though, what's
the point though? You know Liberty has a lot of money,
a lot of money. What's the difference. I want to
know the difference in his contracts? How much more is
he getting paid to coach at Auburn than he was
getting paid at Liberty million. It's not worth three million
to make the move if you're just going to go
down there.
Speaker 2: To mail it in.
Speaker 1: Is it harder now though?
Speaker 2: What do you mean to win?
Speaker 1: Heart? Is it harder to win now at Auburn? Then?
It wasn't twenty fifteen a little mess?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's harder to win now. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 1: Did ego say you've done it once you can do
it again? Yeah? I mean sure, no doubt not that
he would have any ego or whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, at what point, at one point at what
point did he decide to mail.
Speaker 2: It in.
Speaker 1: The moment he signed the contract.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, though, Like, that doesn't make any
sense to me. Why would you even go It's not
worth getting the extra money if you're just gonna go
down there and quit.
Speaker 3: No plan to develop quarterbacks is a wild statement from
a former five star.
Speaker 2: He was right high four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a five.
Speaker 2: Okay, I rest my case, all right.
Speaker 1: I'm just so I like, I'm just trying to be
nice because.
Speaker 3: You don't have anything. You don't have anything good to
say about brother Hugh. And I think that he can.
I think that he can actually turn it around down there.
But every time I say that, something else comes out
about the culture and how nasty it is.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, can we just shoot down this idea
that Chip Kell is going to Florida? Yeah, Like, listen,
if I've got a good source on this one, if
you didn't go there as a head coach, exactly, you're
gonna leave your best friend, unless unless Ryan Day goes
to Chicago.
Speaker 2: But even if he should, by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I totally agree. I think Ryan de
should go to the Bears. But even if he goes
to the Bears, why wouldn't Chip just go with him?
Chip's already been in the league. He just wants to
be a play caller, Like why would he go to
no happening?
Speaker 2: I don't believe in Florida like you don't believe in Auburn.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh yeah, Car because because I'm because I'm
banging the gator drum over here. You're not.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying like that, if we if we
each have a soap box this season about who who
we didn't believe in?
Speaker 2: Those are the two teams all right, State.
Speaker 3: Sure, but that's about saying Carson beck is headed to
the NFL. Give us your thoughts, mister, mister Georgia beat writer,
give us your thoughts on on Carson before.
Speaker 1: We move on to your wife gets you for Christmas?
Speaker 2: And the implicat a hat that says dad on the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what Carson got from his girlfriend Hannah Cavinder. Sure,
that says who wants me with a picture. And everyone's like,
oh is Carson going in the portal? And like Carson
got what he wanted?
Speaker 2: That so cringey. It was so cringey and weird.
Speaker 1: It's been interesting to see, Like, so Beck's going to
the portal that's great, or I'm sorry, going to the
NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: Which is great.
Speaker 1: But it's been interesting to see. And I worry about
this a little bit for the Sugar Bowl, a little preview.
Speaker 2: We're going right there, so go ahead and tie us in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Beck was like nil poster boy for Classic City Collective,
Georgia's n L NIL Collective, got a Ferrari, He's got
the cute girlfriend from Miami. Uh. Some people said, hey,
you've at the UCL maybe you're gonna go down to Miami.
You're gonna go join the girlfriend down there. Contrast that
with the with the quarterback from Tiger Georgia A little
small town.
Speaker 2: Gunner Stockpen County, Raven County.
Speaker 1: Stand up right, Gunner Stockton drives a eighty four like
cream colored two tone, cream colored f one fifty and.
Speaker 2: Like he looks like he's in a country music video.
Speaker 1: Right, Like you just see like Luke Bryan saying, we
rode in trucks like and then all of a sudden
like like like like Gunner stocked and coming out of there.
But at the end of the day, like what you're
seeing is like Georgia fans in Georgia media, and I
am not included trying to say Gunner Stockton is like
Sets and Ben at two point zero. Do we remember
how fun Sets and Ben at two point zero was
at Arkansas in twenty twenty. It wasn't pretty. And while
I believe in Gunnar Stockton, his mobility, his arm and
everything else that that he brings to it, right, Like,
there's like this unrealistic expectation. There's like, oh, well, you know,
Beck was all about the flash and the nil and
the Lamborghinians, and Stockton's just, you know, got his cowboy
boots on and he's willing to roll the sleep and
work hard.
Speaker 2: It's like so that it brought Vandergriff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the deal. Carson Beck was sweet last year
because you have the best tight end in the country, yep,
and Brock vander Griff was the best tight end in
the NFL. And then you also have a thousand yard
rookie receiver in Conky.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna grab you again because you just
call it back. Bowers brought vander Griff.
Speaker 1: But all right, Black Wower, Sorry anyway.
Speaker 2: The Unicorn shout out to you for that incredible piece
the Unicorn.
Speaker 3: If you have, If you haven't read the draft profile
for the broke multiple Raiders records, go back and see
how Craig was right heading into the draft.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Go ahead, Yeah, no power, no McConkey.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, it looks different. The reason why Georgia is
in the playoff this year is Carson back. Like, sure,
he threw a shitload of interceptions against Alabama and costing
the game, right, he threw some costing interceptions old missing
costs in the game, but there was not a tight
end or wide receiver on the roster and there is not.
Speaker 2: There's still the same team.
Speaker 1: It still is not that can differentiate themselves or get open.
Beck had to take the chances, had to thread needles,
had to throw it to receivers, to a group of
receivers who are leading the nation, if not the number
one team in the top five, and drop balls. Beck
threw his way to victory. This is my challenge with
Gunner Stockton. I think Stockton is good, but there's a
reason why he was number two. His legs may be good,
his arm may be good, but he was number two.
So while many Georgia fans are celebrating, Oh the Lamborghini
boy is gone. Be careful what you wish for, because
I feel that in the Sugar Bowl as we get
to it is going to be a shootout and Gunner
is not going to have the luxury of throwing a
costly interception in the fourth quarter like he did in
the season championship game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 3: My point was going to be the same in that
he was number two for a reason. There's there is
a there's absolutely a reason that he's been there. I
think the offense is gonna shift because we've said it
at nauseum, but there's going to be There's going to
be a quarterback run element that has happened. We talked
about this before, but I think that Carson Beck running
the ball actually was.
Speaker 1: Yet I wish beneficial runs a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very beneficial for the Georgia offense throughout
the course of the season and so and and specifically
we talked about it after Tennessee because you saw him
kind of break that game open where it was kind
of it was back and forth in the first half,
and then they were able to really grab control with
him running the.
Speaker 2: Ball in the second half.
Speaker 3: So you know, I think that the problem with that
is we're sitting here talking about that, which means Notre
Dame knows that's going to be the shift. They know,
and so it's gonna be cant. Let's go ahead and
make the ship here. We're gonna work backwards in these games.
We're gonna start with Georgia Notre Dame the Sugar Bowl
and work our way back and we're gonna end.
Speaker 1: Good luck, We're gonna have coffee for that one to
be able to.
Speaker 3: We're gonna end with James Franklin, all right. So, so
Georgia is favored by a point and a half. The
total is forty five and a half. This is the
Sugar Bowl on ESPN eight forty five on New Year's Day.
Speaker 2: This is just coming Wednesday. Georgia and Notre Dame. One kid, game,
go ahead? What about him?
Speaker 1: Does Georgia up in their ears back? Like? So? So,
if I am Glenn Schulman and I'm t Rob, I
put my wide receivers and I put the corners on
an island, and I come after Ry Leonard. I stopped
the run, and I stopped him from doing anything. I
make him throw the ball to beat you. If he
is unable to do that, I think Georgia wins because
if Riley Leonard is able to continuously move the change,
if the running back Love is able to continuously move
the chains, Georgia is going to be in trouble. Georgia
plays a ben don't break defense, Yep. What is going
to be absolutely imperative to limit the ability and the
limit eliminate the ability for Riley Leonard to hurt them
with his legs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can say anything
else there. I think that I'm looking at quarterbacks here.
Ryle Leonard has to be I said this about the
Indiana game. I'm gonna say this again. He's got to
be dual threat because if he can do both. If
he can do both things, that's highly beneficial for Notre Dame.
If it if it's only one one direction, if he
can't throw the ball, they're going to get after him,
and it's that that's going to become a long day
if you.
Speaker 1: Have I think that they if you take a look
at the Tennessee game, I think there's gonna be a
similar playbook where they will bring heat from a they
should spots.
Speaker 2: Should I think that's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put a ton of pressure. It's
going to be run blitses and it's going to be
trying to get after Riley Leonard. Let's try to get
after him before he can throw it.
Speaker 3: I think on the flip side, you're going to get
something similar from Notre Dame because what's unproven about Gunner
Stockton is what can he do with his arm?
Speaker 2: How's he going to push the ball down the field?
Speaker 3: We saw the interception against Texas that looked like a
player who doesn't have experience, And so if.
Speaker 1: You can you can him as an offense, Sure, absolutely,
because you've got but they're gonna key on that too. No,
but you But here's the problem. Notre Dame has two
or three of their key defensive players out. I'll be
on later this week with my buddy Mike Palk his
five foot nothing pod help exactly, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Long, this is the week we should have had him on.
So you guys just go at it and I can
just mediate.
Speaker 1: Oh please, we have been talking about Notre Dame for
twenty five minutes. If he was on here or longer, right,
all right, one hundred percent. But like like that's the
thing is like Notre Dame is hurt defensively, ETN has
not been great all season, but if you look at Texas,
those two Texas games, yeah, he has been a difference maker,
whether it's running or catching the ball.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's him or do you think it's
an offensive philosophy thing from Bobo where he said in
those games, like, hey, we just need to I'm going
to a because we know Bubba is going to establish
the run.
Speaker 2: He's been like that his whole career. Do you think.
Speaker 1: Who I'm who I'm looking to feed is dominic love it?
I would get him in motion? Think about what Sark does.
Love It to me is great between the hashes, and
for whatever reason, love it has largely been a non factor.
Bobo can find a way to make love it a
factor because I I you know, I to me, it's
it's love it. I think, I think I think love
it and are gonna be the keys.
Speaker 3: I'll throw Dylan Mellon to the mix. I think the
Swiss army knife ability.
Speaker 2: Perhaps he gets loted.
Speaker 1: What's the ankle though, Like is that train fully healed?
I'm not sure that.
Speaker 2: If are we picking these games.
Speaker 1: Georgia. Georgia one's by three.
Speaker 2: So George is a one and a half point favorite.
I'm gonna say Georgia by six.
Speaker 1: That's fine. Go dogs, baby.
Speaker 2: Let's back up. Five o'clock on ESPN.
Speaker 1: This is the game right here, the granddaddy of them all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 1: ESPN because, like, like to me, if if you want
to look at numbers, yeah, I think the five o'clock
in eight forty five game, not only because of the
sunset over the Santa Rosa Mountains, but I think both
of these could be twelve to fifteen million viewers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these are the these are the tightest sprints,
so they're the better matchups. So it's definitely definitely a
good reason for them to do it this way. A
high state in Oregon in the Rose Bowl, a high
state two point favorite.
Speaker 2: They've already played once this year. Classic.
Speaker 1: What shift doing offensively? Are we attacking or are we
doing the whatever happened against Michigan because.
Speaker 3: They're not doing what happened against Michigan. They're not doing
happen against Michigan because that only happened because it's Michigan.
Speaker 1: Could you see and I know that you're just overthinking.
I know you have your cigar out already, and like
you have your Landing T shirt on, and I do
that stuff I do.
Speaker 2: It's totally impartial about it. Couldn't just believe in it.
Speaker 1: Couldn't you see the Ohio State just putting it on
their ass?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt and.
Speaker 1: No I don't I have I again, this is horrible.
Speaker 3: And if well, if Will Howard plays like he played
last week against Tennessee High State's not losing the rest
of the high Stage national champion.
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State wins this one going away. I
think I think it's what I think happens. Ohio State
is gonna be a couple of scores early where Landing
is gonna have to force the issue, not punk go
for on fourth downs, may mess or something like that,
and it just it just becomes a game of like
I can't catch up.
Speaker 3: We thought about this last week, was spent a little bit.
But but Dan Lanning is a gambler. I think he's
gonna win the gamble. So I'm gonna go against you
on this one, and I'm gonna say we get another
close one Oregon, Oregon by a field goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Ohio state, I'll say by a touchdown.
Speaker 3: I I think that there's some type of speed that
comes into play here where Dylan Gabriel shout outs to
the Ducks, by the way for the uniforms and they
look great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you go to their social media, like
you look at they've got chrome helmets, They've got the
kelly green and yellow tops with the white bottoms, like
each one is called out to something specific in history,
and I think it's really cool the way that they
view that, so shout out to the Ducks.
Speaker 3: But that I think Dylan Gabriel spreads the ball around well,
and I think that in this this is going to
be a battle.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a winner at the end of
the day off. I don't think he can get it done.
Speaker 2: Offensive players making place.
Speaker 3: I think he's a better quarterback, and so in a
game like this where I feel like it's so evenly matched,
I'm going to come down to the guy that touches.
Speaker 2: The ball the most often, and I like him better
than Will Howard.
Speaker 3: Like like I said before, if we get the same
Will Howard that we got Togainst Tennessee high set, does
not lose the rest of the year. But I don't
believe that's I don't believe that happens. That's that's a
big that's a big if, right, So so give me
the ducks.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: To start the day on New Year's Day at one o'clock,
right after you get your black eyed peas and collard
greens if you believe in New Year's traditional foods like that.
Speaker 2: We got Texas and Arizona.
Speaker 1: State, Like, where's the protein.
Speaker 2: You black eyed peas and cold greens on here?
Speaker 1: No bacon.
Speaker 2: I'm also thrown with corn bread in there if we're
doing that, but it's still not a protein.
Speaker 1: By the way.
Speaker 3: All right, Beach Bowl, sure, Peach Bowl Atlanta, Texas about
twelve and a half. It's at one o'clock on ESPN,
the Longhorns and the sun Devils of Arizona State.
Speaker 1: This one is gonna be close.
Speaker 2: I think it's closer than twelve and a half.
Speaker 3: I still like Texas. I still like Texas a lot.
But you have to worry about Scotaboo.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the factor.
Speaker 1: Who is what I'm say.
Speaker 2: I think that I think that they're gonna they're gonna
stop him.
Speaker 3: And we said this last week and I don't think
we need to rehash it a ton, But Sam Levitt
has to make the place here to keep Arizona State
in the game. I think he's proven that he's a gamer,
and I would I would question whether or not he's
their quarterback next year. Maybe this time next week we're
talking about the five day portal window for Arizona State
players after they've lost to the Longhorns and their quarterback
is out the door. But that's not an sec discussion.
Let's flip it and look back at Texas.
Speaker 2: We saw last week.
Speaker 3: We saw last week that Art got a few more snaps.
I don't think that this is the type of game
where they need Arts to get a few more snaps.
I think that he still will, and I think that
it's valuable to get him those reps.
Speaker 1: He will, but I think but I think he has
has big has bigger play potential on a game like this. Yeah,
I agree, because because again it's it's not Tim Tebow
two thousand and three, two thousand and five, whatever that
was with Curse Lake six. I said, oh, there you go,
six percent. That's why you're the co host or the host.
I'm I'm just the I'm just I'm just the eye
candy to me, Like Texas's defense is gonna be the
key here. But like, this is a game that is
probably I could see like twenty eight twenty one. I think,
like like a twenty one seventeen halftime and then Texas
wins the middle eight extends it out thirty one seventeen,
something of that nature.
Speaker 2: Score.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so some something of that nature where it's contested
but Texas still wins.
Speaker 2: I feel I feel pretty good about a ten point
game here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think twelve and a half is super far off.
I think it's a little I think it's a little big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we could be wrong. We have some crazy
blowouts in that first round, and uh, this one and
a half points, this one sets up.
Speaker 3: To potentially be another one, another one.
Speaker 2: Of those blows.
Speaker 3: There's a world where this is a three score game,
for sure. There's definitely a world where this is a
three score game. If Texas is clicking and they sell
out to stop the run, which I think they're gonna
have to, I think they're gonna live with eight in
the box.
Speaker 2: But I just don't.
Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, I just don't see it. I don't
I don't see I don't see how they make it happen.
So hook them all right, let's shut it down. Penn
State Boise State I Fiesta Bowl. Penn State is eleven
a half point favorite. This one is Tuesday night at
seven thirty. This is where I need your recommendations, lads
and gents. Nice sports bar environment in Orlando where I
can prop up and watch the game. Maybe actually get
in on New Year's Eve at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: We watch us in your iPhone from the hotel lobby.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely not happening.
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that follow me on x AT
rolling in GCP to find out where I end up
watching this game.
Speaker 2: Hey, does boys say to have a fighting chance?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: It's eleven and a half point spread. We know how
we feel about James, Franklin and go.
Speaker 1: I want them to win so badly.
Speaker 2: Boys think, yeah, do they have a chance. That's not
I didn't ask what you want. I want.
Speaker 1: I want. I want Georgia. I'm ignorant to Boise State's
line scrimmage. I want to win this game. I want
Ashton Gentry to run it down. James Franklin's throat. But
can Boise State handle the point of attack against Fenn State.
We look at proof of concept against Oregon early in
the season. It worries me what Boise did towards the
end of the year. I think they played with their
food a little bit. Yeah, absolutely, But here's the deal.
Boise plays well in the festival. They have a flair
for the dramatic and the festival. This this might be.
This might be a multi overtime Ashton gentry for the
win game.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna say. I have no confidence in
Drew Eyler at all.
Speaker 3: He looked He looked absolutely putrid and a blowout when
against SMU. Dude looked like he couldn't complete a past
five yards down the field. However, Boise State's secondary leads
a lot to be desired. They are in the triple
digits in passing defense if I'm not mistaken, So I
think our guy Tyler Warren shows up big time in
this one.
Speaker 2: I think that he is actually the difference.
Speaker 1: Factor. Leads the team in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns.
He only has six receiving touchdowns on the season.
Speaker 2: And leads the team.
Speaker 1: How is that possible.
Speaker 3: Because they don't throw it, they don't score, they rock
fight everybody and play defense.
Speaker 1: No, but this is for that. For that reason, Boise
State go bracos.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: As much as I want to say that mid game
James screws this up, I have to pick Penn State.
They they have this, this cakewalky path. It just landed
this way, and it's going to change the narrative on
James Franklin in the long term. In the short term
for sure, because.
Speaker 1: I think James Franklin tripped his way into the semi finals.
That's what the narrative is going to be. No, it's
not his ass is going to get smacked that in
the in the Sunris.
Speaker 3: What if he doesn't. What if we get an upset
in one of these other games.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't. There's a world where we get check game.
Speaker 3: There's a world where you crown the nittey Lyons the
end of this then this little tournament. I don't think
that's gonna happen, but I have to go with them
on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think they cover eleven and
a half.
Speaker 3: I don't think they cover the eleven and a half.
I like the line somewhere at like seven and a half,
and then I would probably take them to cover definitely
at six and a half. But at eleven and a half,
I think it's too much. I think the boys State
fights and stays in it because I think their offense
has enough balance. I think they're obviously gonna give it
to genty. He's proven what he can do. I don't
care if.
Speaker 2: It's against Mountain West opponents.
Speaker 3: Everybody that they play knows he's the only one that
is going to do anything. And if and if every
team that they play can throw everything they've got at him,
and he still averages over one hundred and fifty and
has multiple two hundred yard games and just runs over people,
I think the kids good. I mean, I don't know
what to tell you, So I think that you know,
Pence's defense keys on him and uh Maddox the quarterback
for a Boise State and has to throw the ball
a good bit, and I don't know that's really their game.
Speaker 2: So I think they'll keep it close. But this, this
has the this has.
Speaker 3: The means of like a twenty to fourteen type of
game for me. So Derek Lions get out of there.
Speaker 1: Derk Cotter.
Speaker 2: I trust we'll see how it goes, all right.
Speaker 3: Last word, baseball stadiums and bowl games.
Speaker 2: I'll just say my opinion is I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: It's weird, it's weird, but I think it gives us
a cool, a cool feel.
Speaker 2: I think it gives us a cool field.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Cool. You know what also gives us a cool field.
Stadiums that actually work in football is cool.
Speaker 3: My problem is that there's enough seating. There's not enough seating.
That's that's not a major issue.
Speaker 1: The seating and listen, it is a visual spectacle on
t TV. There's an awful spectacle in person. You can't
tell me anywhere at the Fenway Bowl is a good
spot to see someone to think that alum plays at
the former turn a Field Georgia State Panthers. It's just
not a good look anywhere.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing though. Here's the thing though, nobody was
at those games.
Speaker 3: So it does make sense that they want to market
it more as a spectacle for TV than in person
type of situation, because.
Speaker 1: Nobody show they could play at Council High School and
and you would still get the same TV number. I
don't think it matters whether you're play in Boston, you're
playing in the Bronx or I'm actually.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't because they don't have a field this year,
and they played every game on the road because they're
they're building building a new stadium.
Speaker 2: They tore the other one down. But how many seats
in the new one? Yeah? I was told less than
Dorman and Dorman's is fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3: Uh so I would say ten to twelve. Yeah, all right,
which to.
Speaker 1: Me, what's the concessions saying game and burns? What you think?
Speaker 2: I think it'd be pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, the setup is gonna be gonna be Are
we talking burgers? Are we talking pizza? We're going ribs?
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going ribs. I could definitely see pizza.
Speaker 1: Are you in Carolina barbecue territory or now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Mustard absolutely every time.
Speaker 1: All right, one totally derailed your last word, by the way.
Speaker 2: That's all good. We're we've been off the rails a
little bit.
Speaker 3: But if you if you made it this far, you
got the good meat of the playoff breakdown, You got
Carson back, you got some meat, you got some some
looks at the SEC teams pizza impressions and disappointed.
Speaker 2: I said pizza. I said they would have pizza.
Speaker 1: Where you are you going traditional Detroit style?
Speaker 2: You know, I just want to slice a pepperoni if
I'm at a game.
Speaker 1: What the hell does that means? Slice of pepper on? There?
You going like traditional? Like like like, hey, I want
a hand tossed crust all right in Greenville. If I'm
going for a slice, where am I going?
Speaker 2: Depends on what time? What slice do we want? I mean,
give me, tell me what I want. Okay, this is
not this is not this is not Greenville.
Speaker 3: But I'm if you're in the upstate, I'm going to
I'm hitting right over the.
Speaker 2: Line to North Carolina to try on and I'm going
to side street.
Speaker 1: Side street they got going on.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the it's the it's the brick oven
right there. There's there is a place.
Speaker 1: In Greenville thicker crust or.
Speaker 2: It's a little it's a little thicker.
Speaker 1: All that.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big thing crust guy.
Speaker 1: No, you gotta come up to uh Buddy's Pizza in Detroit. Cuss. Oh,
it's so good. You getting lirid of the Wisconsin brick cheese,
the mozzarella, I'm with it, Pepperoni, I'm with it. So
let's do it all.
Speaker 3: Right, everybody, Thanks for listening to it just means more
football and coffee.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the year that was twenty twenty four.
We're signing off of episode forty two. I'm Rob Williams.
Speaker 3: He's craigning with Michael at Rob Williams GCP at McMichael seven.
Hope you're enjoying these playoff games as you're listening to
our breakdown, and we will see you next time.