Speaker 1: And yet I asked you, it's not an alien force
Speaker 1: already among my guest today has put years of study
Speaker 1: into the Earth and its natural lay lines. His website
Speaker 1: is Geometry of Place. He is the author of Guy
Speaker 1: a Matrix, as well as some other titles that are
Speaker 1: available at that site. Peter Shampoo, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Tim'thy. Good to be here. Yeah, so you've
Speaker 2: got a world map behind you. I guess I might
Speaker 2: be referring to that occasionally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, help yourself to do so. I'm in the process
Speaker 1: of shopping around looking for older vintage world maps. The
Speaker 1: the I don't know. The hard part about it is
Speaker 1: just his price range, because some of the ones I
Speaker 1: want are very expensive. I'm a big fan of the
Speaker 1: Perry Reese map and some of those others.
Speaker 2: So there was a great book by a Map of
Speaker 2: the Ancient Sea Kings Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings
Speaker 2: by Charles Hapgood. He was kind of a researcher back
Speaker 2: in the thirties and fifties through the fifties, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: actually he came up with a pretty interesting theory about oh,
Speaker 2: you know, pol shifts and such that that Einstein bought into.
Speaker 2: But never got any traction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the poll shifts thing is very interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Perry Reese map, I took time. You know,
Speaker 1: on one version of that map over on the left side,
Speaker 1: there is the text and script where the map maker
Speaker 1: wrote in descriptions of this coastline.
Speaker 2: YEA.
Speaker 1: One of the descriptions once you get way down to
Speaker 1: the bottom of the coastline there where it's almost possibly
Speaker 1: into your Antarctica region, it talks about how the Spanish
Speaker 1: didn't want to go there because it was snake infested
Speaker 1: and hot like like temperature wise, but it's so far
Speaker 1: down close to the pole that you would think it
Speaker 1: would be cold. And this map was put out in
Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred, so it's it's almost like and this
Speaker 1: is a huge rabbit trail, but it's almost like the
Speaker 1: poles shifted sometimes since I don't know the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: but I don't. Yeah, I know that's not react too,
Speaker 1: but you know it some of these descriptions on these
Speaker 1: old maps just make a question. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: when the Earth is a magical place, and I'll just
Speaker 1: start off by asking, you know, when did you realize
Speaker 1: that this is a magical place? What started you on
Speaker 1: this journey?
Speaker 3: Oh shush, Well I was born, Yeah, I mean when
Speaker 3: I when, I want, when I was My parents built.
Speaker 2: Their own house after the war, you know. My father
Speaker 2: got the g I loan and my mother decided to well,
Speaker 2: well you need to put our house up on this hilltop.
Speaker 2: And this hilltop was a hilltop because it was all rock,
Speaker 2: and they had to blast a hole to put the
Speaker 2: foundation in and up pop down so our footprints. So
Speaker 2: they called me Peter, you know, because of all this
Speaker 2: rock that they took out of their their their house foundation.
Speaker 2: And you know that's pretty magical, you know, seeing seeing
Speaker 2: living things, you know, living evidence of of of life
Speaker 2: within rock. So you know, just the earth has always
Speaker 2: been a place of mystery and remarkable things for me.
Speaker 2: So I grew up in the woods. You know. My
Speaker 2: mother would pick me out first thing in the morning
Speaker 2: and said, you know, don't come back to the street
Speaker 2: lights are on. And you know I did that. I
Speaker 2: went out and see if I could get lost, and
Speaker 2: I just was, you know, raptured by the wonder of nature.
Speaker 2: It was all around me. And yeah, I mean, what
Speaker 2: what more can you say than nature itself? You know,
Speaker 2: the earth is just you know, it's been limitless source
Speaker 2: of curiosity for me as a geographer. That's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: that's what we do is geo you know, part of geography.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you want anything more succinct
Speaker 2: than that or.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a great answer. Yeah, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to trample on it too much with my own experience,
Speaker 1: but I will say that I cherish growing up in
Speaker 1: an environment that was very nature centered. I grew up
Speaker 1: right on the edge of the Uari National Forest in
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and the same for me. My backyard was
Speaker 1: woods and I never got I never even was able
Speaker 1: to reach the end of those woods. Like I used
Speaker 1: to have dreams about how these woods behind my house
Speaker 1: were just like the edge of the universe, and it
Speaker 1: just expanded from there because there was just so much
Speaker 1: of a is a such a woodland area, and it's
Speaker 1: just so expansive, and you know, and I grew up
Speaker 1: barefoot and running around in that environment and it shaped
Speaker 1: who I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I bet you're pretty healthy too, from all those
Speaker 2: bugs you picked up as a kid. You know, that's
Speaker 2: makes a big difference in your health of being exposed
Speaker 2: to nature. You know, there's lots of studies that show
Speaker 2: how dogs bring in beneficial bio for for children to
Speaker 2: develop their immune systems. So yeah, it's just a remarkable system.
Speaker 2: And so you know, it's an elegant design.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, something just came to mind, so
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put it out there. I also
Speaker 1: remember we lived next to a church. Yeah, otherwise it
Speaker 1: was very remote, but I remember anytime they would do
Speaker 1: any digging at this church, they had a guy out
Speaker 1: with the dowsing rods. And I don't know, I was
Speaker 1: very young. I'm not sure if he was looking for
Speaker 1: water or something else, but I remember seeing the guy
Speaker 1: out there dowsing with the rods. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: usually before they would break ground. And fast forward to
Speaker 1: recent times, I've heard about people using dowsing rods to
Speaker 1: look for lay lines.
Speaker 2: Sure, you can use dowsing rods to look for anything
Speaker 2: that's that's you know, it's just an extension of your
Speaker 2: own antenna system. Member of the American Society of Dowsers, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I've I've gone through a lot of workshops
Speaker 2: on dowsing, and over the years, I've had different methods
Speaker 2: that I've used in my dowsing from uh, you know,
Speaker 2: bent coat hangers to uh, just you know, a nut
Speaker 2: on the end of a stranger. But now I used
Speaker 2: to I went to dowsing using my two fingers here
Speaker 2: like this. You know, it's giving a you know, give
Speaker 2: me a yes. And I can't pull my fingers apart
Speaker 2: no matter how hard I try. When I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get a yes, and when it's a no, it's impossible
Speaker 2: for me to hold hold on, you know, So that
Speaker 2: like my body is you know, giving me you know,
Speaker 2: I just asked for that signal to be recognized and
Speaker 2: uh and and now now I just use these two
Speaker 2: fingers together, you know, I pull them together like that
Speaker 2: for a yes and a no. That doesn't stick. So
Speaker 2: it is not so apparent when I'm walking around the
Speaker 2: grocery store, you know, saying, you know, should I buy
Speaker 2: this ice cream? And I know no, you don't forget
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna buy it anyways, you know. But that's
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a way towards health. It'll it'll
Speaker 2: teach you what what foods are good for you and
Speaker 2: what what what aren't you know?
Speaker 1: So it's wow, I never heard that talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very very uh good method of opping
Speaker 2: I found. You know, he could really ask any question
Speaker 2: if you get a they have to be clear the dowsing.
Speaker 2: It's very essential to have a clarity. And what that
Speaker 2: means is, uh, is that that you're a blank slate.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a It demands you to go into
Speaker 2: a meditative state where you're in the present and without
Speaker 2: any extraneous thoughts other than what your what your target
Speaker 2: question is. So being clear of just that one thing,
Speaker 2: and you know there's so many, many, many different ways
Speaker 2: you could you know, dows h And you know, if
Speaker 2: you don't have the right question, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: you know, up to for interpretation, then you know you
Speaker 2: might get the wrong answer. So you know, I was
Speaker 2: at a super Bowl over watching the Super Bowl with
Speaker 2: a friend and last February, and you know, and the
Speaker 2: dosing who's going to win? And I got nobody who's
Speaker 2: going to win? You know how well has that happened?
Speaker 2: But I didn't think of a tie, you know, so
Speaker 2: it ended up tying and no one won. I had
Speaker 2: to go into overtime, and you know, so was well
Speaker 2: more specific about that.
Speaker 1: But you're you're clearly tapping into something here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been part of dowsing groups.
Speaker 2: Uh one energy Healing Partners group of about seven people
Speaker 2: that got together, oh once a month or once a season,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, we we would practice consensus dowsing
Speaker 2: where where you know, all of us are you know,
Speaker 2: fairly good dowsers and and we check off, you know,
Speaker 2: will are we clear? Are we unclear? And we try
Speaker 2: to get language statements and and then then put those
Speaker 2: statements into the consciousness so as a as a way
Speaker 2: to heal the earth. So you're you're working with the
Speaker 2: field if you will, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So heal the earth. That that sticks out to me,
Speaker 1: that that resonates with me a little bit in the process,
Speaker 1: I think of changing my logo here for the podcast.
Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to put people off with it,
Speaker 1: I think, and I've I've read some of your work,
Speaker 1: and I've and I've heard some of your lectures, and
Speaker 1: I think too, you know, you talk about the pyramidal
Speaker 1: structure that represents this hierarchy of power, and it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a positive thing. It's it's almost it's almost like
Speaker 1: it it's a reference point to the powers that have
Speaker 1: held us down and and I do talk about how
Speaker 1: humans have been screwed over by the overlords on here
Speaker 1: I I and I douce. We could call it that
Speaker 1: pyramidal hierarchy of elites because I think it's important to
Speaker 1: put that information out. I think it raises awareness so
Speaker 1: we can start to have a conversation about healing, because
Speaker 1: I don't see people today willing to change their frequency
Speaker 1: until they realize the necessity. Once you have a necessity,
Speaker 1: then you can start this journey of healing. And I
Speaker 1: think I think we need a peaceful revolution of people
Speaker 1: getting back to the land where we can heal ourselves
Speaker 1: and heal the land in this symbiosis. And I think
Speaker 1: we need to replace monocrop with you know, versatile food
Speaker 1: for us and stop mowing down all the herbs, and
Speaker 1: and also learn how to tap back into the Earth's
Speaker 1: natural energy. Because if if that information isn't lost because
Speaker 1: of people like yourself, can we still learn how to
Speaker 1: find and utilize these lay lines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the information is never lost, It just goes
Speaker 2: into the ecostic record, and that's where you can, you know,
Speaker 2: pick up where you left off before. But yeah, lay lines,
Speaker 2: working with lay lines and pyramids, there's yeah, it's free
Speaker 2: will is a very very difficult thing to deal with,
Speaker 2: and I think that's you know, like like people in
Speaker 2: like the power structures that be, you know, that they
Speaker 2: want their will to be paramount to everybody else's will
Speaker 2: and or subservient to everybody else's will. You know, it's
Speaker 2: slavery and such. You know, there was the the negative
Speaker 2: exercise of free will, but that that just comes comes
Speaker 2: along with this evolution of humanity. You know, as we're
Speaker 2: as we're developed, you know, as we use our free will,
Speaker 2: we have to develop a sense of empathy so that
Speaker 2: it doesn't become destructive. But you know, at the same time,
Speaker 2: it allows us to experience life and emotion far more
Speaker 2: intensely than we would otherwise. You know, if everything was
Speaker 2: kind of damp down and okay, you know, you can't
Speaker 2: do this, you can't do that, you know, like your
Speaker 2: will was was limited, there wouldn't be all these these
Speaker 2: opportunities to consciously grow into a relationship with the source
Speaker 2: of all that is. You know. I just I think
Speaker 2: we're all just fractal souls of the great soul, the
Speaker 2: great Ottma, you know, and you know, as we become
Speaker 2: more aware of that, we we we we get uh,
Speaker 2: we become aware of how our actions affect other people,
Speaker 2: and we start to feel that I heard I heard
Speaker 2: a podcast say, you know, angels don't fight anymore because
Speaker 2: you know, if they were to stab each other, they
Speaker 2: would feel it. You know, you know, there's a unity
Speaker 2: field there, and you know, as as we come to
Speaker 2: become a unity field within the planet. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm you, you or me? You know it's
Speaker 2: mm hmm. But the you know, the Great Pyramid right now,
Speaker 2: you know, you were alluding to conversations I've had about that,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a it's a misused of that building,
Speaker 2: you know, that that edifice to say that you know,
Speaker 2: well here, you know, everything is top down and you know,
Speaker 2: you know, the priests classes on top. But uh, in
Speaker 2: my studies of the Pyramid, what I've found is that
Speaker 2: it's a three dimensional model of a water molecule. And
Speaker 2: if we start looking at the Great Pyramid as a
Speaker 2: three dimensional model of a water molecule, which was what
Speaker 2: it was working with. He was working with the Nile,
Speaker 2: was working with rains. It was you know, ensuring you know,
Speaker 2: the way I see it, you know, physics wise, that
Speaker 2: the Great Pyramid had a electromagnetic frequency that that that
Speaker 2: generated a standing standing columber wave due to the configuration
Speaker 2: of granite and and and limestone together uh in that
Speaker 2: in that geometry. So you have, ah, like this columber wave,
Speaker 2: and you have very smooth white surface with a moat
Speaker 2: around it. Uh and and every every day, you know
Speaker 2: that that moat would evaporate its water and it would
Speaker 2: go up the slope of the Great Pyramid, and and
Speaker 2: and and it would uh uh you know, create a
Speaker 2: bonding with the atmosphere with that that that that that
Speaker 2: evaporative water and that evaporation would go up and get
Speaker 2: connected with this sandy columbra wave and probably you know,
Speaker 2: I would kind of you know vision that there would
Speaker 2: there was an afternoon thunderstorm every day and and and
Speaker 2: uh I was going to say atlantis, you know, perhaps
Speaker 2: the memory here uh uh you know every day over
Speaker 2: the Great Pyramid and that would you know it was
Speaker 2: and then the lightning would would generate uh sky nitrogen
Speaker 2: that would fertilize the grounds. And you know, it was
Speaker 2: a it was a very good tool for an agricultural
Speaker 2: society to live with. But uh you know the class
Speaker 2: of you know, the froonic priests class, I think corrupted
Speaker 2: it and and looked at it as a model of
Speaker 2: top down economics and you know leadership.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You know that's interesting. I've I've never heard the the
Speaker 1: connection made there between the shape of the pyramid and
Speaker 1: the water molecule and just how it further ties into
Speaker 1: use aligned with water. I know, water is used in
Speaker 1: all kinds of rituals, has been for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's a you know, I guess, a conductor. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a way to I know people use it for
Speaker 1: scrying and and and all that stuff. It's it's a
Speaker 1: water is a way to connect to perhaps another dimension.
Speaker 1: But I also wonder too if maybe they had water
Speaker 1: around those pyramids at one point, I know, in Mexico City.
Speaker 1: I was reading a book from the fifteen hundreds about
Speaker 1: these explorers that went into Mexico City and they described
Speaker 1: that the pyramids there were coming straight out of the water.
Speaker 1: That was you speaking of Atlantis. At one time in
Speaker 1: the fifteen hundreds, Mexico would have appeared very much like
Speaker 1: Atlantis because it was a city built on water. They
Speaker 1: just drained that whole lake bed. In modern times, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like it gets me thinking. It's like, was
Speaker 1: that the situation at one time in Egypt as well?
Speaker 1: You know, Robert shop talks about all this water damage
Speaker 1: on the Great Sphinx. I mean maybe they were using
Speaker 1: the water.
Speaker 2: The universal substance. Yes, no, I mean when you look
Speaker 2: out at a nebula and nebulas are producing water all
Speaker 2: sixty oceans a day or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, so when you think about that, in the bonding,
Speaker 2: you know, the bonding ability of water, it follows that
Speaker 2: water is the progenitor of solar systems. I like it. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: and it's certainly the progenitor of life here on Earth.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Genesis too, where it says God separated
Speaker 1: the waters and put the end put in a I
Speaker 1: guess we would call it a firmament, but there is
Speaker 1: or a dome or something. I don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole. Is there a firmament? But
Speaker 1: in Genesis it talks about the separation of the waters
Speaker 1: and before God created the earth in the story in Genesis,
Speaker 1: there was water first. The water. It's almost like the
Speaker 1: water has always been here, and it goes back to
Speaker 1: Tmot and the chaos dragon and these water spirits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they've been finding water in the deep, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, oceans of water under you know, inside the earth.
Speaker 2: And you know in the Bible they talked about the fountains,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, bringing waters up to the surface
Speaker 2: during the flood. So not only did the firmament drop,
Speaker 2: but the waters came up from from below. So it
Speaker 2: kind of indicates an extreme h you know, probably passage
Speaker 2: of Planet X or however you want to call that
Speaker 2: particular uh stellar object that comes around every now and
Speaker 2: then and stirs up things here in the Earth. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, water is water is the stuff?
Speaker 2: Is it? The fourth or the fourth phase of water
Speaker 2: was recently discovered by Pollock, Professor Pollock. Kind of interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: How water can or yeah, how how water can you know,
Speaker 2: climb up a redwood tree, you know, that kind of
Speaker 2: volume of pumping action that's required for water to get
Speaker 2: to that height and yeah, and it's the fourth phase
Speaker 2: of water that allows that to It's like a gel
Speaker 2: that allows water to rise and and and for blood
Speaker 2: systems to operate and everything so fast. Yeah, yeah, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm i'd like to you know, just briefly touch on
Speaker 2: on what I'm finding around the Great Pyramid, if I may, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, the Great Pyramid has multiple ley lines. It's
Speaker 2: the center of the dry earth, so uh so it's
Speaker 2: called you know, it's called the well it's the center
Speaker 2: of the earth. So north south, east, west, northeast north
Speaker 2: as kind of you know cross pattern if you take
Speaker 2: those those uh eight directions, if you will, and uh
Speaker 2: and look at them as alignments or energy fields that
Speaker 2: come in and circulate through the Great Pyramid and out
Speaker 2: into the earth. The patterns of course, you know, being
Speaker 2: the center of the land mass, it's opposite on the
Speaker 2: opposite side of the planet. It's the center of the
Speaker 2: water mass. So you know, there's just I just won't
Speaker 2: want the audience to keep that in mind. But so
Speaker 2: you have this, uh, these lay lines that extend all
Speaker 2: across the planet. And uh when you look at these
Speaker 2: radiant lines that come off the Great Pyramid, you find
Speaker 2: that there's a consistent pattern, geographic pattern of wars and
Speaker 2: genocide and uh, these great famines and stuff that were
Speaker 2: you know, caused by man or you know, Stalin or
Speaker 2: whoever is in power at the particular time. But but
Speaker 2: it really appears that that there is a kind of
Speaker 2: a discordant frequency that's being transmitted by the Great Pyramid
Speaker 2: that no one really wants to look at. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I I've been kind of beating that drum
Speaker 2: for years now, and I've it's a it's a new
Speaker 2: age heresy to say such a thing. And there's so
Speaker 2: many people making so much money off of pyramid tours
Speaker 2: and and glorification of the pyramids. And you know, the
Speaker 2: who's that those those fellows there in ancient aliens, you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're always you know, touting the wonders of the
Speaker 2: ancient world. And you know, I mean it perhaps it
Speaker 2: might have worked when the Earth had a different uh
Speaker 2: before the fall, there was a wholly different electromagnetic frequencies
Speaker 2: in the planet, and and and all those systems were
Speaker 2: abandoned because they they no longer or worked. You know,
Speaker 2: the if the megalithic systems were still delivering on what
Speaker 2: they were generated for, they'd still be in operation today.
Speaker 2: But they, you know, they lost their their luster. You know,
Speaker 2: Paganism lost its luster, you know, so you know, the
Speaker 2: christ material came out and they you know, it was
Speaker 2: like paganism renewed again, and it was it was it
Speaker 2: was a new version of what they were familiar with.
Speaker 2: But you know, so there's something you know about the
Speaker 2: Pyramid that spawns religions. You know, you look out on
Speaker 2: the like the south though it's the southeast edge lay
Speaker 2: line that comes off the Great Pyramid goes right to Mecca.
Speaker 2: I mean right through the Kaba and the rock and
Speaker 2: everything that's there. So so it's like the Mecca is
Speaker 2: very much a part of the Egyptian Great Pyramid Temple system.
Speaker 2: You know, in the asked, we the these these great
Speaker 2: temples were used as a earth maintenance system, if you will.
Speaker 2: Sacred sites were used to maintain the world by the
Speaker 2: true ceremony because they were at these very advantageous points
Speaker 2: on the earth that would stimulate its vitality. So, you know,
Speaker 2: Native Americans, you know, they they're kind of the last
Speaker 2: ones that still honor sacred sites within their you know,
Speaker 2: within their collective responsibility. And you know, right now, we
Speaker 2: we we treat you know, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: different people treat sacred sites in different ways, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's to me, it's there is a
Speaker 2: need for a group of professionals who do regular spiritual
Speaker 2: maintenance on sacred sites, and and the only people that
Speaker 2: know how to do that still are indigenous people Native people.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we need to employ these
Speaker 2: folks to maintain the world, you know, through ceremony, through song,
Speaker 2: through dance, through powwows at sacred sites because of that
Speaker 2: nature are really important to to you know, geostasis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's remarkable that those energies are still there and
Speaker 1: still active. I'm not sure if they're as potent as
Speaker 1: maybe they once were. But when you take the Great
Speaker 1: Pyramid into consideration, well, honestly, I've only done one official
Speaker 1: episode on Pyramids. I haven't completely dove into that. Judging
Speaker 1: by this conversation we're having right now and how it's going,
Speaker 1: I would say that there's a possibility that that energy there,
Speaker 1: that natural source, was not always harsh, bad energy, you know.
Speaker 1: And I've had people on who have told me that
Speaker 1: they think that Babylon and some other empires were broadcasting
Speaker 1: a signal or a religion out of certain sites, including
Speaker 1: the Great Pyramids, and that was possibly, you know, a
Speaker 1: negative thing, but maybe it didn't always start off like that.
Speaker 1: And then you have the obelisks, and we have transplanted
Speaker 1: these obelisks over here now like the people who created
Speaker 1: our country went and got Egyptian obelisks and put them
Speaker 1: in I know, there's one essential park.
Speaker 2: Sure And yeah, yeah that was uh. If I may
Speaker 2: I could come at the The obelisk is the grounding
Speaker 2: force of a pyramid. So a pyramid is typically an upshoot,
Speaker 2: and in medicine wheels or upshoots, and an obelisk is
Speaker 2: necessary or a rock nearby is necessary to ground that
Speaker 2: energy and create the you know that that donut loop.
Speaker 2: That that that's around life, around the things of life,
Speaker 2: you know, So if you want to bring a site
Speaker 2: to life, you use these obelists. So by taking these
Speaker 2: you know what was it late eighteen hundreds, the Egyptian
Speaker 2: revival here in here in the in the States was
Speaker 2: it was one all these obelisks were going up and
Speaker 2: so that that was that was By putting an obelisk
Speaker 2: on a gravestone or on a uh as a grave marker,
Speaker 2: or in a park like Cleopatra's needle by the met
Speaker 2: it uh, it creates a donut loop with the with
Speaker 2: the the great Pyramid, especially Cleopatra's needle being so you know,
Speaker 2: so that that came from Alexandria. So that was that
Speaker 2: was in a loop right with that. So so if
Speaker 2: you take that the Cleopatra's needle was in Alexandria, and
Speaker 2: the northwest northwest edge lay line that that goes you know,
Speaker 2: off that direction went right through Alexandria and so so
Speaker 2: by by taking and that eventually goes over the states
Speaker 2: right down the Saint Lawrence seaway and by Cleveland and
Speaker 2: uh you know down through that way, you know, through
Speaker 2: the Great Lakes and now along it's it's lengthd you
Speaker 2: find obelisk placed. But and so so but by bringing
Speaker 2: Cleopatras this go over here there they actually were working
Speaker 2: that particular lay line to to bring those those Egyptian
Speaker 2: frequencies and and and and create the new you know,
Speaker 2: the new empire, the new Egyptian uh Renaissance if you will.
Speaker 2: So the you know.
Speaker 1: Well you answered my question there. My question was was
Speaker 1: going to be do you think that our founding fathers,
Speaker 1: the men who founded this country, we're trying to deliberately
Speaker 1: tap into that old pyramid energy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, yeah, they were using what h you know,
Speaker 2: the knowledge that they had from the templars, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Templars got their knowledge from the Moors, and the
Speaker 2: Moors got their knowledge from the Egyptians. And you know, so, uh,
Speaker 2: they were trying to create civilization here with with the
Speaker 2: tools that they were given, and so they delo liberally.
Speaker 2: But they the downside of that is that they were
Speaker 2: doing it to promote business and banking and power rather
Speaker 2: than the spiritual nature of things. So that that that's
Speaker 2: been more of the expression.
Speaker 1: It makes me rethink the pyramid and using it. And
Speaker 1: because you know, what is what initially attracted me to
Speaker 1: a pyramid is the symmetry. It just something the human
Speaker 1: eye or just maybe just my personal eye likes to
Speaker 1: see the symmetry of the pyramid. And I like to
Speaker 1: see the eye in the pyramid because it kind of
Speaker 1: has a spiritual feel to it. It's like this all knowing,
Speaker 1: all seeing knowledge. That that's what I get when I
Speaker 1: see an I in a pyramid. But the more I
Speaker 1: look into this, you know, I'm not so sure that
Speaker 1: I want to like.
Speaker 2: The eye of more, do you know? Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta throw that ring into the into
Speaker 2: the volcanic fire in order to free all the orcs,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, great, it's great reference. Yep, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, what do you think about that
Speaker 1: with Washington d C. Because that's that's a Pandora's box,
Speaker 1: just the layout and all that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, my book guy a Matrix like devoted
Speaker 2: chapter to that. And yeah, Zochipelli goes to Washington and
Speaker 2: big square, you know, monument in the middle of it,
Speaker 2: you know, so you know that that would be you know,
Speaker 2: a square like that might be, you know, just the
Speaker 2: base of a pyramid, a an etheric pyramid that was
Speaker 2: set there. But you know something folks don't don't really
Speaker 2: think about too much as la latitudes and longitudes and
Speaker 2: in particular longitude. The north south line that goes right
Speaker 2: through the Washington d C sare square. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's not a full square anymore. Because of the Civil War,
Speaker 2: Arlington County was removed from that DC diamond, but the
Speaker 2: county is still bordered by that line. So so d
Speaker 2: C and Arlington County combined create the DC square that
Speaker 2: was laid out by this Morrish fella. And that's the
Speaker 2: center line of that the north south line of that
Speaker 2: diamond is the seventy seventh exactly seventy seven zero zero
Speaker 2: zero zeros a zero longitude. So that's that's referring to
Speaker 2: a time frequency. So it's a longitude. While it is
Speaker 2: a tolluric. You know, it has the the electromagnetic field
Speaker 2: of the Earth breathing through it, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: through the surface fields and through the cosmic fields around
Speaker 2: us in a north south pattern. Uh It. This this
Speaker 2: longitude is a an entrainment that's been set, you know,
Speaker 2: by by the English worldview, so which seems to have
Speaker 2: is a out of you know, Egyptian world view. But
Speaker 2: uh so, you know zero prime meridian is Greenwich, England,
Speaker 2: so all of time, you know, that fourth dimension of
Speaker 2: time is all measured off of that meridian. So seventy
Speaker 2: seven degrees exactly from that uh iner rates a like
Speaker 2: a frequential, uh intention set into time seventy seven, which
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you know, I mean seven and seven
Speaker 2: angels seven then seventh. You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: sevens that you uh So that that that's a real
Speaker 2: important piece. And and and Washington was the one that
Speaker 2: decided to put Washington, d C exactly there. And he
Speaker 2: was a surveyor and you know consummate Mason, you know,
Speaker 2: and he was in an all the secrets, you know,
Speaker 2: so he he at the frenchie that came in and
Speaker 2: laid it out to their the French ury into it too.
Speaker 1: Washington paired up with this Moorish fellow to sort of
Speaker 1: map this out. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I can't remember his name. I'm sorry it
Speaker 2: was he was. He was a black man for black
Speaker 2: man that I was from Ethiopia. And at the time,
Speaker 2: no one knew how to uh survey with with stars,
Speaker 2: and this guy knew how to survey with stars and
Speaker 2: he was able to lay out the Washington Diamond but
Speaker 2: by using stellar alignments and exactly.
Speaker 1: The old astronomy archaeologist well astronomy like zoroastrial stuff. It's
Speaker 1: crazy alchemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so but that's.
Speaker 1: A missing piece that to a to a huge puzzle here.
Speaker 1: The Moors. I don't hear people talk a lot about
Speaker 1: the Moors.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that was kind of a popular subject
Speaker 2: during the Crusade.
Speaker 1: But see, I didn't know. I didn't know about that either.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't know. I've never to my knowledge seeing
Speaker 1: the Moors.
Speaker 2: That's that's uh you know, it's it's the Moors of
Speaker 2: the Arabs. Yeah, okay, you know, that's that's what we
Speaker 2: used to call them. And uh you know when they
Speaker 2: when they came into Spain, they were the Moors.
Speaker 1: But yeah, see I thought that they were African.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another name for him too.
Speaker 1: Sure, they're they're from the Middle Eastern part of Africa.
Speaker 2: Well, the the the Moors that invaded Spain, you know,
Speaker 2: came from Western Africa and moved in from there. But
Speaker 2: they were the Islam had already taken over that part
Speaker 2: of the world. So yeah, you know, the they employed
Speaker 2: mathematics extensively. It was our numbering system is from the Moors,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's an Arabian we are all, you know,
Speaker 2: numbering system. So you know a lot of great gifts
Speaker 2: came came from Africa. Yeah, you know, it's we don't
Speaker 2: give people near the credit that they deserve for all
Speaker 2: the contributions. You yeah, it's like beautiful minds, beautiful minds,
Speaker 2: uh one and all. You know, it's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: it seems like, uh you know, it's creator's puzzle, you know,
Speaker 2: to put us all together here on this planet. I
Speaker 2: you know, to have these different races all together, it's
Speaker 2: you know, I suspect sometimes I think sometimes that you know,
Speaker 2: there were five alien races that uh, you know, didn't
Speaker 2: know what to do, so they through genes of each
Speaker 2: of each of its group onto this planet and say, well,
Speaker 2: let's give them free will and let them work it out,
Speaker 2: and whatever they come up with, well we'll go with that,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you know, when I I was reading
Speaker 1: through guay A Matrix, I don't know, a year or
Speaker 1: two ago, I remember you talking about the Moores, and
Speaker 1: I remember thinking that it was one of the first
Speaker 1: times I had seen a researcher kind of go go
Speaker 1: down that road in that kind of a way where
Speaker 1: it connects to all this stuff. I've heard people talk
Speaker 1: about the Moores and theorize who they were or what
Speaker 1: they may have done, and did they come here and
Speaker 1: have a population here in the Americas that is now forgotten.
Speaker 1: I've heard all of that.
Speaker 2: But the Moores are very you know, it's not a
Speaker 2: mysterious group. It's just a term that was used in
Speaker 2: a historical period. I could describe a group of people
Speaker 2: that were African Arabians, African Muslims.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just wanted to touch on it because
Speaker 1: that might be that might be new to some people.
Speaker 1: And I do think that this Morris fella working with
Speaker 1: Washington and just how that connects to the Obelisk, connect
Speaker 1: to the Pyramids, and it just it all points back
Speaker 1: to this earth grid that is that's big.
Speaker 2: That's big. Yeah. Yeah, they're you know, they're trying to
Speaker 2: control the world. Yeah, it's uh, it's but she's untamable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, speaking of Washington, d C. I
Speaker 1: was talking to a friend recently. I'm in Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of Virginians here and I made
Speaker 1: friends with one of them, and he was telling me
Speaker 1: about this vortex out there. It's it's in the Shenandoah Valley.
Speaker 1: It's in the middle of nowhere. It's on the side
Speaker 1: of this mountain.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I looked into it. It's a well. The way it
Speaker 1: ties into Washington, d C. Is he worked at a
Speaker 1: resort there for a while and all these Washington governmental
Speaker 1: elites would come there. And it's called Basy Basey, Basey, Virginia.
Speaker 1: It's it's near a place called Lost City. It's it's
Speaker 1: out in it's a very remote, very isolated area, and
Speaker 1: they you know, he worked there, and you know, of
Speaker 1: course people talked about how they were there was a
Speaker 1: lot of cult activity there, and I asked, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is there anything to that? And he's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was out driving the back roads one time and
Speaker 1: I did see off in the woods, off the side
Speaker 1: of the road people carrying torches, like twenty people out
Speaker 1: in the woods carrying torches in the middle of these mountains.
Speaker 1: He's like, I left real quick, and you know, that's
Speaker 1: just a that's just a story. But I looked into
Speaker 1: the vortex that's supposed to be at this place.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting because somebody built a shrine temple, an
Speaker 1: outdoor shrine temple out there. They used local rocks, they
Speaker 1: used like just local masonry, and they called it Shrinemont
Speaker 1: and you know, they so they put this outdoor edifice
Speaker 1: there in the early nineteen hundreds, and it just it
Speaker 1: just reminds me of this idea of find a source
Speaker 1: of power and put a temple there. And I see
Speaker 1: that a lot in your work. You know, I think
Speaker 1: back to the Dark Ages and the Church and that
Speaker 1: iron grip they had on Europe during the dark ages.
Speaker 1: They knew about this energy, and they would put their
Speaker 1: churches right on top. They put the temples on the
Speaker 1: source of power.
Speaker 2: That's what I meant that. Yeah, the Church were having
Speaker 2: trouble with the Irish, and you know, they converted it
Speaker 2: to Tholicism, but they wouldn't go Whenever they got in trouble,
Speaker 2: they'd go back to the old shrines. So, you know,
Speaker 2: the priests were complaining to the Pope that you know,
Speaker 2: we couldn't get the Irish to come to church. Instead,
Speaker 2: they were still going to their shrine. So the Pope said, well,
Speaker 2: put the churches on the shrine. Yeah, you know, that's
Speaker 2: been the practice until America. You know, here here in America,
Speaker 2: we've just placed the church on the corner high in Maine,
Speaker 2: and don't really take into account the Tulleric energies that
Speaker 2: you know, the earth energies that that would be supportive
Speaker 2: to spiritual practice to place the churches upon. Instead, Instead,
Speaker 2: the civic structures are on those places of power.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been seeing from Paris to South America.
Speaker 1: I see that the church put cathedrals right on top
Speaker 1: of the ancient sites.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now and now that nobody is you know,
Speaker 2: if if there aren't people going to the churches, then
Speaker 2: there's no people. There's nobody going to the sacred sites.
Speaker 2: The sacred sites don't really care. Uh, but but you
Speaker 2: know that they need human consciousness to ground celestial forces
Speaker 2: into into into terrestrial forces. So you know, we are
Speaker 2: we're conduits for that energy. And uh, you know, like
Speaker 2: like the Earth has war Texas to draw us into
Speaker 2: it because we feel good being there and the Earth
Speaker 2: feels good having us there. And that that grounds a
Speaker 2: a a a spirit you know, it brings it into
Speaker 2: spiritual context. But but now that uh you know, you
Speaker 2: know like Shark Cathedral, you know it's built upon an
Speaker 2: old Druid site, you know, and an amazing technology, Gothic
Speaker 2: technology that uses the you know, the geometry of water
Speaker 2: to uh you know, and its construction and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just everything about it was was made to enhance
Speaker 2: that that spiritual energy that already existed there for for
Speaker 2: people to benefit. And you know, so you think about
Speaker 2: you know, in Gothic Europe, you know you have all
Speaker 2: these cathedrals that that are you know, generating all this energy, right, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, grounding christ energy into the ground you know,
Speaker 2: and so every every day you get everybody's having a
Speaker 2: Mass at the same time, and they're all ringing the
Speaker 2: bells at the same time, and they're all chanting, you know,
Speaker 2: at the same time. And uh you know, so that
Speaker 2: kind of concordance generated a field that that that that
Speaker 2: eventually took over all of Europe and and and created
Speaker 2: a Christian field. But now we're not going to those
Speaker 2: churches anymore. The Vartexes aren't fed by our prayer. Uh uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it's there, there's there's doubt, there's division, there's
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff that's being thrown into the into
Speaker 2: the mix.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, speaking of the Gothic, the Gothic technology,
Speaker 1: have you come across an individual named Saint Bernard of
Speaker 1: clear View?
Speaker 2: Yeah, claar Vo Okay, yeah, from what.
Speaker 1: I understand, he was a founder of the Knights Templar
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He inspired a lot of
Speaker 2: the I think it was Second Crusade, one of the
Speaker 2: Crusades was was his doing. And right, you know, they
Speaker 2: they would you know, it's a technology, they would use
Speaker 2: it for the benefit of of christ consciousness to try
Speaker 2: to bring Christ into the world.
Speaker 1: More, what what do you think about the idea of
Speaker 1: Saint Bernard was meddling with alchemy, was possibly you know,
Speaker 1: hunting down that philosopher stone knowledge, and he incorporated that
Speaker 1: into the Gothic cathedrals themselves, because I think when he
Speaker 1: shows up on the scene, so does a lot of
Speaker 1: funding to build the Gothic cathedrals. And it seems like
Speaker 1: he had a sense of higher knowledge or sacred geometry
Speaker 1: and alchemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, the Knights went to Arabia and
Speaker 2: they were you know, got that knowledge from you know,
Speaker 2: over there and brought it back to Europe. It was
Speaker 2: it was only from the advanced mathematics that they learned
Speaker 2: from from the Arabic people that that they were able
Speaker 2: to construct these these cathedrals. And and it was trial
Speaker 2: and error they you know, there were many cathedrals that collapsed, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to get that that ultimate buttresses and
Speaker 2: ultimate windows and uh. But I'm sure they they shared
Speaker 2: all that. You know, when you get this information in
Speaker 2: your head, it's just you know, it doesn't go away.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you're introduced to uh uh, this
Speaker 2: esoteric information, you know, perhaps you know, you can dismiss
Speaker 2: it as the devil or whatever, but it still remains
Speaker 2: in your head and uh and and does its work
Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, but it's it, you know it you
Speaker 2: know to me right now, you know, recovering Catholic, it's
Speaker 2: like to say anything is not God is blasphemy to me,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, because how how can you know?
Speaker 2: How can anything be? You know, I mean without the
Speaker 2: one source, one fourth being being behind it all, and
Speaker 2: and that you know, I mean evil has really helped
Speaker 2: temper our souls, you know.
Speaker 1: A deeply spiritual perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: finished your thought though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty much it, you know. So so
Speaker 2: you know Claival he was you know, he was getting
Speaker 2: all this information firsthand. You know what else did they say,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what about this? You know, it's like us
Speaker 2: having conversations. You know, they would come back from you
Speaker 2: know and report to their superior and and you know
Speaker 2: he was you know, as much as pre Suana, you know,
Speaker 2: fain being humble. Uh, when you have free will and
Speaker 2: ego and all this stuff at play, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they were just as curious about some of
Speaker 1: these ancient sciences as.
Speaker 2: I am you know, I'm yeah.
Speaker 1: And back to that, Yeah, back to that story.
Speaker 2: You know, the great mystery has been around for a
Speaker 2: long time, and yeah, you know, I hope we never
Speaker 2: solve it, you know, because that's right.
Speaker 1: It's what Yeah, you're right, it's it is, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's much more fun. I'm I'm I've told people before.
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly happy with them never finding conclusive proof that
Speaker 1: there's a Bigfoot because I'm happy with the mystery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, And back to the Vortex thing. What really
Speaker 1: caught my attention with Vortex is correct me if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong with that, is the intersection of two ley lines.
Speaker 2: Correct, Well, you know, I need to any two streams
Speaker 2: that come together. Vortex. Yeah, yeah, well that's.
Speaker 1: I think that that plays into my fascination for the
Speaker 1: ancient sites, which I'm just very attracted to. I think
Speaker 1: there's a fascinating phenomenon where people who aren't spiritual per se,
Speaker 1: or aren't religious even will go to these certain sites
Speaker 1: and they'll say, oh, there's an energy here that I
Speaker 1: can feel like they there's an energy that people describe
Speaker 1: that's tangible, almost like the wind, and non religious, non
Speaker 1: spiritual even people have connection and find connection to the
Speaker 1: Earth through these sites.
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, I think there's an etheric charge that's present
Speaker 2: in lay lines that that feed our own etheric bodies,
Speaker 2: you know. And and when you when you feed your
Speaker 2: etheric body, you're strengthening your physical body, because the etheric
Speaker 2: directly affects your physical and you know, if you get
Speaker 2: a big hole in your etheric body, that's where you
Speaker 2: end up getting an illness. And and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: so uh, the Earth itself, you know, has all these
Speaker 2: you know, points of connection for the Earth's etheric body
Speaker 2: and and itself. You know that that's you know, by
Speaker 2: supporting the etheric body through sacred sites, through war texes,
Speaker 2: through you know, like we as humans go thro a vortex.
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're war text is in ourselves, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, look at any ice dancer. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just so. But by us going to these wartex is,
Speaker 2: we're increasing the the etheric charge that that's being uh
Speaker 2: both released and drawn to it, you know, by the
Speaker 2: etheric body of the planet. There there's a some excellent
Speaker 2: work that been done by this fellow, Nick Nelson. He uh,
Speaker 2: he spent a lot of time at vortexas as a
Speaker 2: consummate dowser and found that there was a very specific
Speaker 2: pattern that was repeated at vortexas that uh, you know
Speaker 2: he he looked at this proportion. It was like one
Speaker 2: to five kind of rings with with another ring around that.
Speaker 2: And you know, I looked at it. I said, Nick,
Speaker 2: you know, this is this is the model of the
Speaker 2: inside of the planet. You know, this is what the
Speaker 2: USGS is saying that the spheres and the inside of
Speaker 2: the planet are. So it was like that was like
Speaker 2: a huge for me to to to you know, put
Speaker 2: those two pieces together that you know, the Earth is
Speaker 2: actually projecting a mini version of itself through vortexas. So
Speaker 2: so you can kind of connect with all of the
Speaker 2: planet because because of a similarity of geometry so and
Speaker 2: and and you know, to build upon that that that
Speaker 2: that same geometry is generated within a neogram, you know,
Speaker 2: and that's a nine to nine pointed star if you will,
Speaker 2: you know, so you can generate four polygons, uh with
Speaker 2: a neogram, and those four polygon guns make these nested
Speaker 2: spaces you know, as as it comes you know, into
Speaker 2: the center and and those are the same sizes as
Speaker 2: the Earth's interior spheres. But you find that in in uh,
Speaker 2: the kind of patterns that you see in the well
Speaker 2: everywhere you know, Stonehenge and you know, I mean even
Speaker 2: the Great Pyramid has that implicit to it. So uh,
Speaker 2: you know in the human eye has that so uh
Speaker 2: you know this but by using you know, if you
Speaker 2: if you have a you know, an Earth energy text
Speaker 2: and you put a neogram on it, you're going to
Speaker 2: have one powerhouse there. And let me tell you, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it really works well even if you
Speaker 2: don't have a vortex you put in you know, you
Speaker 2: use using a neogram medicine wheel and you're you're communicating
Speaker 2: directly with gravity. You know, it's it's a pattern of gravity.
Speaker 2: You see it in Uh yeh. There was a gamma ray,
Speaker 2: big gamma ray burst that came through a year or
Speaker 2: two ago that you know, all the observatories you know
Speaker 2: focused there, uh, telescopes on this one place where this
Speaker 2: gamma ray was coming through. And what the pattern that
Speaker 2: they came up with was the same pattern you know
Speaker 2: that that that you find in an Earth energy vortex.
Speaker 1: Wow, what happens when you're going back to our earlier
Speaker 1: conversation on water, you know what happens when you put
Speaker 1: water in them? Does that enhance this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know when I lived out in the desert
Speaker 2: southwest there pierced Arizona for four years, and I put
Speaker 2: in and I put it in one of these medicine wheels,
Speaker 2: and I was going out every day to you know,
Speaker 2: we were experienced a drought in the southwest, and I said, well,
Speaker 2: I want to attract some some of those West coast hurricanes.
Speaker 2: You know that we're worling around Mexico. So I went
Speaker 2: out there and you know, with that intention, I was
Speaker 2: drawing out the four polygons of of the of the
Speaker 2: aneagram with water, just walking you know, from one stone
Speaker 2: to the next, back and forth and doing this thing.
Speaker 2: And I'd do it for I did it for about
Speaker 2: a week, and sure enough, you know, here comes this
Speaker 2: hurricane that came in and just drenched us. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can take credit for it, but you know, there it was,
Speaker 2: you know, and proof enough for me that it worked.
Speaker 2: But you know, since then, there's been a you know,
Speaker 2: it broke the drought, and there's you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: like creating a bonding something for water to bond to,
Speaker 2: you know, so you come Also, a few years back,
Speaker 2: I worked with a group of earth dealers in California
Speaker 2: and they were wanting, you know, to stop the drought
Speaker 2: that they had for the last twenty years out there,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, so I found that there was
Speaker 2: a pattern around San Francisco that that was in a neogram,
Speaker 2: so you know, with that as a consciousness field and
Speaker 2: that you know, with water in it. Now we use
Speaker 2: that as a as a an attract for the atmospheric
Speaker 2: rivers to come in. So you know, soon, you know,
Speaker 2: within a month of putting that in there, and you know,
Speaker 2: in that condy it's just a consciousness field, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean we put any stones out on the ground,
Speaker 2: you know, because it already you know, is there and
Speaker 2: nature created it. It's it's a sacred geometry, geometry of nature,
Speaker 2: geometry of water. And uh, you know, the the intention,
Speaker 2: the request was that we would you know, attract atmospheric
Speaker 2: rivers to recharge the the ground water, fill up the reservoirs,
Speaker 2: and make it a good ski season. So uh, you know,
Speaker 2: it was all uh you know, answered in spades. So
Speaker 2: you know, when the earth, the Earth wants to work
Speaker 2: with us. And uh, you know, I think that that
Speaker 2: that's really the gift of all this is that by
Speaker 2: looking into earth energies, by examining the past, uh, in
Speaker 2: the past, you know what, how it was used in
Speaker 2: the past to to you know, affect nature. We can
Speaker 2: be better stewards of the planet. We can learn to
Speaker 2: to fly this this spaceship Earth and to sustain it. Uh.
Speaker 2: And and we can only sustain it if we can
Speaker 2: sustain its biological field. And that field is very much
Speaker 2: like our own. You know, we're we're in the outgrowth
Speaker 2: of the planet. So you know, the etheric fields that
Speaker 2: that that the planet has with that are connected through
Speaker 2: sacred sites. Uh. You know, it can be managed by
Speaker 2: through consciousness, through human consciousness, you know. And it's it's
Speaker 2: a cell. The Earth is a cell. Yeah, and uh
Speaker 2: and and the membrane of the cell is where all
Speaker 2: the consciousness is. And and we as humans are are
Speaker 2: very much part of that Earth consciousness.
Speaker 1: Right now, I want to pull up this map just
Speaker 1: get your opinion on this real quick and I think
Speaker 1: it goes it ties in with what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: You know, you see this stuff online occasionally, so I
Speaker 1: don't know but what we're looking.
Speaker 2: At, mister colembs map.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I figured you'd be somewhat familiar with this
Speaker 1: Earth's chakras and this these lines here, the female rainbow
Speaker 1: serpent line and the mile pullume serpent. What do you
Speaker 1: think about this?
Speaker 2: Uh? You know, I I referenced them, okay, and uh
Speaker 2: you know it's it's I really dig that Kylash Bali
Speaker 2: Ularu connection there. Uh, that's that's that's big which is
Speaker 2: over there you know Ulus Australia. Bali is in Indonesia
Speaker 2: and uh and Kylash is uh there in in uh
Speaker 2: in India or northern in Mongolia, if you will, in Tibet.
Speaker 2: Uh Holy is mountain on the planet now under control
Speaker 2: of communists China. Uh. But uh, I don't really, I
Speaker 2: don't look at this as a chakra system. I see
Speaker 2: them as Yeah, they're patterns. They're probably you know, etheric
Speaker 2: connections that were you know, he's this is a description
Speaker 2: of the etheric Earth. Really, you know, the these these
Speaker 2: nodes that that take in this uh. You know that
Speaker 2: they are chakra systems in the sense of of a
Speaker 2: meridian that that has a uh you know, more more
Speaker 2: in the line of a Chinese meridian where where you
Speaker 2: have acupuncture points. Yes, so I look at these more
Speaker 2: like acupuncture points than than than chakrash. To me, a
Speaker 2: chakra system is generated as a standing Columner wave, if
Speaker 2: you will, vertical. So you know, our chakra systems have
Speaker 2: this verticality to it. Where we're going from, you know,
Speaker 2: crown chakra down through the route and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: for bringing the Kundalini down or bringing it up because
Speaker 2: the other way of course. But you know, if you
Speaker 2: look at the planet in that context, you know, you
Speaker 2: know we have this again, this donut loop that goes
Speaker 2: around us as a field five feet out. Horses have
Speaker 2: one that's twenty five feet out. Earth has one that
Speaker 2: goes out to the Van Allen Belt. Uh uh so
Speaker 2: uh you wrapped up in my facts.
Speaker 1: I'm keep going on. I think this is good.
Speaker 2: What were we talking about? Ah?
Speaker 1: The male? Well I was going to ask about.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, so you know I so, well, you know
Speaker 2: my chakra, okay, my heart, how came? Will take my heart? Well,
Speaker 2: all the blood goes to my heart. So I'd look
Speaker 2: at the planet and say, well, where's all the blood
Speaker 2: go on the planetary heart? And I said, well, what
Speaker 2: are the veins of the heart? Well, all rivers. Rivers
Speaker 2: are the veins of the Earth. Okay, all right, so
Speaker 2: let's see where the rivers go. And you know, I
Speaker 2: see the Nile on the thirtieth, I see the Young
Speaker 2: Tees on the thirtieth, I see the Tiger's euphrates on
Speaker 2: the thirtieth, I see the Colorado River. On the thirtieth,
Speaker 2: I see Mississippi River. These are all deltas that are
Speaker 2: all dumping, you know, into the heart chakra a latitude
Speaker 2: of the planet. So i'd look at the Heart trucker
Speaker 2: and the Hollands. You know, you know that that you know,
Speaker 2: love and energy there New Orleans. It's so you know,
Speaker 2: you take that and you spring north and south. So
Speaker 2: if you go south from the heart trok or you
Speaker 2: go to the solar plexus, all right, So that's nineteen
Speaker 2: point five degrees on the Earth is where the solar
Speaker 2: plexus of the planet are. You find Hawaii in Mexico
Speaker 2: City and a lot of volcanoes. If you go extraterrestrially
Speaker 2: looking at the sun, the sun on the nineteen point
Speaker 2: five degree latitudes of the Sun is where all the
Speaker 2: sun spots come out. The big orange spot, the big
Speaker 2: storm on Jupiter nineteen point five. The largest volcano on
Speaker 2: the Solar system is in Mars nineteen point five, So
Speaker 2: you know that's the Solar plexus. You know, that's of
Speaker 2: of the planetary chakra system. And you mentioned the Fortis parallels.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the throat chakra.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you mentioned New Orleans there, that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite places. Sure, speaking of being able to feel
Speaker 1: the energy of a place, I'd say that that applies
Speaker 1: to New Orleans in my in my experience at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, in New Orleans you have the water
Speaker 2: of a continent flowing and by you Yeah, you just
Speaker 2: think about all the all the all the p that
Speaker 2: goes into that water, you know, and and the kind
Speaker 2: of DNA information that that carries. And you know, by
Speaker 2: the time it gets down down in New Orleans. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know, there's just there's a lot of consciousness in
Speaker 2: that water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, absolutely, absolutely. Also, the I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you about the forty second parallel. You know, this
Speaker 1: maybe goes back to for me, this goes back to
Speaker 1: the Dark Ages a little bit. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that the Dark Ages only applied to Europe when they
Speaker 1: were in the grip of the Church because outside of
Speaker 1: Europe in Istanbul modern day Istanbul, now it was Constantinople,
Speaker 1: that city was on the forty second and they were
Speaker 1: thriving there into dark ages. They were in a state
Speaker 1: of renaissance. Before the Renaissance. Uh, this it was the
Speaker 1: cultural center. Now there was the golden what they call
Speaker 1: it the Golden Age of Islam or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't see it in the parameters of that religion
Speaker 1: at all. I think that this was just a wealthy
Speaker 1: fun in the sun. They had food, and they had pleasure,
Speaker 1: and they they weren't they nothing about it was dark
Speaker 1: ages and and I think the rent, the Renaissance that
Speaker 1: we know about spread from there because it was it
Speaker 1: was able to creep through the boundaries that the Church
Speaker 1: had put around Europe. But all that to say, it
Speaker 1: goes back to possibly this this forty second parallel where
Speaker 1: they're sitting on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's in my book, I call it the
Speaker 2: empire lay. You know, I look at lays as is
Speaker 2: just a sequence of cultural and natural features that extend
Speaker 2: over over a length and uh, you know, I I
Speaker 2: look for, you know, like the cultural expression of Lay
Speaker 2: there's lay energies everywhere. You know. You know that you
Speaker 2: can dowse you know. I mean if you put every
Speaker 2: single energy feature that is in the land on a map,
Speaker 2: you you know, you would be covered with graphite, you know,
Speaker 2: just from drawn as all over. But you know, it's
Speaker 2: a crackling energized planet, and you know you can douse
Speaker 2: out those things. But I prefer to just stick to
Speaker 2: the big ones that are really obvious, you know, because
Speaker 2: that that that's more the collective consciousness field that I'm
Speaker 2: kind of all about trying to tap into. And the
Speaker 2: forty second parallel is you might call it the Goldilocks
Speaker 2: zone and a Goldilocks planet because you know, it's along
Speaker 2: this parallel that you get seasons, and seasons allow allow
Speaker 2: for you know, corn growth, you know, the extreme agricultural
Speaker 2: bounty is found along this line. So because of that,
Speaker 2: you have extra grain to feed armies. And and then
Speaker 2: you know, you get an ego, a king or an
Speaker 2: emperor involved. It's got a megalomanic bent to them, to
Speaker 2: them and you know, let's see, we got some extra grain,
Speaker 2: Let's take over the world, you know. And so you
Speaker 2: have these empires that that flourish around it, but it's
Speaker 2: kind of kind of you know, like one of the
Speaker 2: things on the forty second parallel is the island of Corsica.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you know, when it came across
Speaker 2: Corsica on the forty seconds, it's Corsica has to have
Speaker 2: to do with empires. And then I found out it's
Speaker 2: the birthplace of Napoleon Bonaparte, you know. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just this stuff doesn't stop. But you know,
Speaker 2: Genghis Khan g On he was on the forty second,
Speaker 2: Beijing is on forty second, Istambul, Constantinople, the Byzantian Empire.
Speaker 2: You know, the English Empire was not on it, but
Speaker 2: they had a lot of holdings. Uh but uh, you
Speaker 2: know Barcelona, well it's not Madrid, it was the seat
Speaker 2: of the king and stuff is where Isabelle came from.
Speaker 2: And you know that whole Spanish Empire that that held
Speaker 2: sway there in the Iberian Peninsula, and Rome of course
Speaker 2: is on it, and uh you know, you know about
Speaker 2: the Holy Roman Empire and all those things that they
Speaker 2: were involved in. So you know, I but as well,
Speaker 2: that's where there's so much literature in science and and
Speaker 2: kind of the stuff of the throat chakra that that
Speaker 2: that is manifest you know. So you know, that's what
Speaker 2: I look at, is like the patterns of manifestation, you know,
Speaker 2: what what are the what happens you know along these lines.
Speaker 2: It suggests a certain quality or frequency that's being carried
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah. I have just released a book recently
Speaker 2: called Deadly lay Lines.
Speaker 1: Yes, can I comment on that real quick? Because I
Speaker 1: was getting ready to read this because you're what you
Speaker 1: just said, A big part of that reminded me of this,
Speaker 1: this part of your book, and I just I was
Speaker 1: going to tell people. It says here in the footsteps
Speaker 1: of Gilgamesh, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Charlemagne, and Caesar, with Zaa Thrustra, Jesus,
Speaker 1: Christo Bahalla and Rudolph Steiner as guides, the reader is
Speaker 1: asked to reimagine Earth's ether paths free of their Groundhog's
Speaker 1: day of war, ancient curses and Pyramids, Deposits, and Saints.
Speaker 1: Deadly lay Lines was published to bring awareness of and
Speaker 1: solutions to geopolitical pathology described writ large in these papers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the jacket you read.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know it stuck out to me when I
Speaker 1: read it, and uh, I think it's a well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice selling point you know.
Speaker 2: For well a lot of stuff, you know. Writing this book,
Speaker 2: it was it was it was hard. I mean, just
Speaker 2: looking at the patterns of of of this stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: of war and man, man's inhumanity to man, all that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's really came down to, you know, profit
Speaker 2: through suffering, you know, And here I was writing a
Speaker 2: book that I was going to sell, and I was
Speaker 2: going to profit from the suffering that I described in
Speaker 2: this book. And it was just it seemed, you know,
Speaker 2: contrary to the ethics that the book was standing for.
Speaker 2: So I well, it's available on you know, Deadly lay
Speaker 2: Lines is available on Amazon. If you want to print copy,
Speaker 2: I have a you know, I give it away for
Speaker 2: free electronically, just to get the information out there. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I was writing about one particular lay line
Speaker 2: that is quite inflamed right now, you know, the lay
Speaker 2: lines getting inflamed like like tendons, like our bodies, like Meridians.
Speaker 2: And there's one inflamed lay line that goes right through Gaza.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Gaza, Oh jeez, you know, the
Speaker 2: history of Gaza, and you know, all the curses that
Speaker 2: were put on the cana and the Canaanites who lived
Speaker 2: in Gaza by the Egyptians because the Pronic priests and
Speaker 2: egypt couldn't couldn't conquer the you know, they were rebelling
Speaker 2: province and they couldn't do anything about it because they
Speaker 2: had this city called Ashkalon, which is right there by Gaza,
Speaker 2: and so they put this curse on it that essentially
Speaker 2: is what is manifest there to this day. You know,
Speaker 2: I mean, curses still kind of working itself out and
Speaker 2: uh you know, and it was this particular curse was
Speaker 2: written on clay bowls and then smashed so that it
Speaker 2: couldn't never be undone. Yeah, yeah, so you know, but
Speaker 2: it can be. You know, we just have to have
Speaker 2: a conscious awareness of it. And that's what this book
Speaker 2: is trying to provide, is an awareness of how these
Speaker 2: patterns keep repeating themselves. And by by recognizing a pattern,
Speaker 2: then we can then uh you know, true will can
Speaker 2: can overcome these patterns so that you know, you know,
Speaker 2: October seventh, I'm writing about Gaza and they turned on
Speaker 2: the news. You know, it's like, oh, gossip blown up again,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah. And uh, but that that particularly lay line, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, hits all the spots of the Middle Eastern
Speaker 2: Wars that we've been experiencing, you know, in the past
Speaker 2: yeah decades. You know that did the line go right
Speaker 2: through Gaza, I'm on, Jordan, Jerusalem, uh and Baghdad and
Speaker 2: uh goes near Tehran, but mostly you know, just through Iran, Uh,
Speaker 2: right through Kabul, Afghanistan, Islamabad, Pakistan. You know, so we
Speaker 2: got this nuclear thing going on there too. And and
Speaker 2: it goes across the disputed ends of either end of
Speaker 2: the Himalayas where China, India and Pakistan are all odds
Speaker 2: or you know, Bangladesh at the other end of it.
Speaker 2: So uh that there's and it goes out to Hong Kong. So,
Speaker 2: but it also goes right through Mount Kailash. So there's
Speaker 2: you know, I wonder how much you know, like Mount
Speaker 2: Kailash is this holy the holy holy mountains in the
Speaker 2: planet and uh, you know it's honored by you know,
Speaker 2: many many religions and uh. And and when when when
Speaker 2: China really took over Ti bet they took you know,
Speaker 2: they they took possession of Kylash as well. And that
Speaker 2: uh you know, they're protecting it. That's a good thing,
Speaker 2: but there's something not right on that lay line because
Speaker 2: of that, that that relationship that it's kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, there there's this divinity that's part of this.
Speaker 2: You know, kylash is the is the home of Shiva,
Speaker 2: you know, and uh uh you know when you have
Speaker 2: an atheistic power that's in control of that, that it
Speaker 2: kind of dampens down that energy and an energy that's
Speaker 2: that's repressed ends up you know, roaring eventually, you know.
Speaker 2: And so so there's a certain roar that's on the
Speaker 2: planet now, uh that that's destroying itself. And Shiva is
Speaker 2: the is you know, destroyer and creator, so he's he
Speaker 2: is manifesting.
Speaker 1: That reminds me of cern.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have another one of those sites on the
Speaker 2: on the Pyramids.
Speaker 1: Lay lines, but they have that atheistic approach to what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and they have the statue of Shiva.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I don't know if that.
Speaker 1: Ties into this, but that's what it reminded me of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's an evil, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because they're not trying to do a spiritual endeavor over there,
Speaker 1: even though they I think at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Behind closed doors, they are working with spirits and earth
Speaker 1: spirits and earth energies and all that. I think there
Speaker 1: it's very much a spiritual operation, but they keep that insulated.
Speaker 1: They don't talk about it. They they put out like
Speaker 1: they're just doing Darwinian science as usual. You know that
Speaker 1: there's nothing spiritual going on there.
Speaker 2: It's bad, bad, bad mojo to to uh destroy Adams,
Speaker 2: you know, break Adams apart.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's almost like the reversal or the
Speaker 1: inverted act. It's like the act of creation inverted.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, mhm. Yeah. And the interesting that the pattern
Speaker 2: uh the physical machine concern uh, the the the actual
Speaker 2: one that that breaks you know what breaks apart the
Speaker 2: atom too. You know that real high energy collider has
Speaker 2: the same pattern as that as the enneagram that Earth
Speaker 2: energy uh you know orth energy vortex pattern that they
Speaker 2: described earlier in our conversation. Wow. So it's like you
Speaker 2: need to it has to be in the geometry of
Speaker 2: the universe in order for it to operate.
Speaker 1: It's like it comes back to intention or something like,
Speaker 1: what what do you intend to do with this technology?
Speaker 1: Is probably going to determine the results.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's messaging the world absolutely. You know, I
Speaker 2: think when when they when they first when they first
Speaker 2: turned on CERN. Uh, that's when the christ Church earthquake happened.
Speaker 2: And the christ Church earthquake is at the antipode of CERN.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think you know that, you know,
Speaker 2: when they turned that baby on and got that that
Speaker 2: that resonant frequency shape of the planet just shot it
Speaker 2: right through and somehow had to release in a released
Speaker 2: in the form of an earthquake, then wow. But in
Speaker 2: following you know, it was like an adjustment that the
Speaker 2: Earth had to make.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It hasn't it hasn't repeated that, you know, with its
Speaker 2: with CERN's increasing energy output.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're putting these particle colliders on some
Speaker 1: sort of a lay line. I mean, CERN is sitting
Speaker 1: on its rumored to be sitting on this ancient temple
Speaker 1: of Apollo. There's like an old Greek, yeah temple there
Speaker 1: that part of CERN I think sits on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, there's a there's a conversation that I've heard,
Speaker 2: you know, I just I don't have any opinion. I
Speaker 2: don't one way or another. But they say that a
Speaker 2: bombs can't can't work unless they're on an Earth grid point.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, one of the things that m
Speaker 2: m Yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, it makes you wonder. I'm guessing that
Speaker 1: the Masons also used the lines here in the America,
Speaker 1: like knew about them and used them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was at my I had to go to my
Speaker 1: local bank recently and I had to actually talk to
Speaker 1: somebody about something with my account. So I went back
Speaker 1: to one of their offices and I sat down and
Speaker 1: I waited to talk to this banker, and they on
Speaker 1: their desk they had a book about the neighborhood that
Speaker 1: I live in and the history, and it's all about
Speaker 1: how the Masons built up, planned and built up this
Speaker 1: neighborhood in seventeen hundreds here in Nashville. So and it
Speaker 1: got me thinking, I'm like, oh, okay, so my neighborhood
Speaker 1: was established by Masons, and right up the street from
Speaker 1: me is a very old Masonic lodge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that's I think that's that. That's
Speaker 2: where that lay line comes in from Nashville. That's pretty
Speaker 2: close to uh, New Madrid, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I've heard of New Madrid. I don't know if it's maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's uh yeah, I mean that that's right
Speaker 2: where that Ley line comes through. So yeah, that really
Speaker 2: would have been I'm sure they I'm sure they they
Speaker 2: had mapped that out, yeah, because there's so many obelists
Speaker 2: along that path of that particular and you know this
Speaker 2: is that it goes through CERN too. That's this is
Speaker 2: the same same one that goes through Ctern and comes
Speaker 2: over here and what right down through the New Madrid
Speaker 2: area and uh really that's down to the southwest and Mexico.
Speaker 1: Interesting coincidence there that it's connected to CERN as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know on the map, three of the Masonic lodges
Speaker 1: in Nashville are on the line. Yeah they line up.
Speaker 2: No, definitely they would do that. Yeah. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the most obvious lay lines. I mean, he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, if you ever want to prove that lay
Speaker 2: lines exist, just point out that the East Coast cities
Speaker 2: are all on a dead straight line from Boston down
Speaker 2: through you know d C in New York and Baltimore
Speaker 2: and Trenton and Philadelphia, Atlanta, uh, New Orleans and and
Speaker 2: uh Mexico City all in this all in this dead
Speaker 2: straight lay line, and and uh you know Washington knew
Speaker 2: about that, and and they they actually called it Satan's
Speaker 2: axes back in the colonial period because you know, civilization
Speaker 2: was along the coast and west of there. It was
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Uh so, uh, you know, he he
Speaker 2: designed it. You know, they that that lay line goes
Speaker 2: right through the center of Washington d C. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was spot on with it and laying out that city.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were. They were very much, very keen
Speaker 2: on that particular one because I mean it was so obvious.
Speaker 2: And you know, if you want to build a civilization, uh,
Speaker 2: you need to tap into nature. You know, the ones
Speaker 2: that civilizations that have lasted the longest are the ones
Speaker 2: that have employed uh, sacred geometry. You know, ay lines
Speaker 2: are sacred geometry of the planet. So by employing sacred geometry,
Speaker 2: you're employing the geometry of nature, and that you know
Speaker 2: nests you you're, you're you're kind of like embedded into
Speaker 2: the into the fabric and matrix of the world. So uh,
Speaker 2: you know, by uh, you know, putting this line of intention,
Speaker 2: you're you're you're you know, like in training a frequency.
Speaker 2: Uh so you know, with with with every Masonic lodge,
Speaker 2: you know, every ritual they do. They're in training a
Speaker 2: frequency that that they envision and as beneficial and uh
Speaker 2: you know, altruistic they were. They were doing this for
Speaker 2: the betterment of of civilization, of American civilization and power.
Speaker 2: You know, sure, yeah, but I love that. That's a
Speaker 2: big that's that lay line is huge, you know in
Speaker 2: world politics. Wow, you take it over the pond through
Speaker 2: Europe and it goes through all these war zones over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I noticed on your site geometry of place. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna name it again so people can go and
Speaker 1: check that out. I've noticed that you had a picture up. Now.
Speaker 1: I used to live right at the base of Pilot
Speaker 1: Mountain in North Carolina. I noticed you have a map
Speaker 1: up and a picture of the Pilot Mountain circle. Is
Speaker 1: that what you call it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pile of mountain wheel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wheel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I had to ask you about that because you
Speaker 1: know I hail from those parts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, uh yeah. When I made that discovery
Speaker 2: in ninety three about the landscape geometry in New England,
Speaker 2: you know, I said, well, this can't be the only one,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you know, this is merging, emerging
Speaker 2: right out of the fabric of the land and you know,
Speaker 2: so these landscape temples or landscape geometries color earth rings
Speaker 2: and so so I started looking around to see that
Speaker 2: if there are others, and I noticed that, you know,
Speaker 2: with this geometry. In New England, there was a a pluton,
Speaker 2: a a a volcano that didn't make it to the surface,
Speaker 2: you know, and formed the dome of granite. Uh So,
Speaker 2: you know, so I started to look for other domes
Speaker 2: of granite and found found Pilot Mountain as this, you know,
Speaker 2: things sticking out of the Piedmont that this has got
Speaker 2: a feature about it and it's like a Native American
Speaker 2: sacred side and you know, so and and it ended
Speaker 2: up being at certain radius that that brought it into
Speaker 2: integration with the rest of the planet. And but you know,
Speaker 2: I determined it because of cultural and natural features. Again,
Speaker 2: so uh, these are this might be called a circular
Speaker 2: lay line, if you will. The wheel that I described
Speaker 2: as the Pilot Mountain wheel. So if you take the
Speaker 2: center and uh and the Pilot Mountain wheel ends up
Speaker 2: being right on that lay line. I just spoke of
Speaker 2: going through d C in Boston and New York and everything.
Speaker 2: Uh so, uh okay, well d C's on it. Well,
Speaker 2: let's let's do an arc from d C and see
Speaker 2: what happens. You know, that's all I you know, this
Speaker 2: is my process. You know, I've done it all over
Speaker 2: the planet. You know, here's a here's a pluton. Let's
Speaker 2: make a radius to some cultural feature nearby and see
Speaker 2: what happens. So the arc that that generated ended up
Speaker 2: going through like, uh, what's it called Serpent Mound oh
Speaker 2: over in Ohio. And but the really interesting phenomenon was
Speaker 2: that opposite d C was Stone Mountain, Georgia in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: So you know that was like, you know, it suggested
Speaker 2: this polarity, you know, like you know, I was fighting
Speaker 2: as brothers, and so I started looking at that piece
Speaker 2: of it and and due south. You know, this was
Speaker 2: this ended up because of the geography and the way
Speaker 2: the line went. It ended up being a northwest to
Speaker 2: northeast to southwest line from d C down to Atlanta
Speaker 2: or Stone Mountain. So that would make it a a
Speaker 2: an eight pointed geometry. You know, this is how I
Speaker 2: get my geometries out of it. Well, it's the relationship here,
Speaker 2: you know, So north south, you know, so I generated
Speaker 2: an eight pointed geometry and then north south from there, Uh,
Speaker 2: it's up in Moundsville, West Virginia and Mountsville, West Virginia
Speaker 2: is where the Hari Krishna a new verbana is. You know,
Speaker 2: it's this big temple space there, pretty pretty wild, but
Speaker 2: you know that was the Krishna. And Krishna is a warrior,
Speaker 2: you know, he's a he's a sacred holy warrior. So
Speaker 2: due south of that same you know, radial distance is
Speaker 2: Paris Island Marine Corps training camp. You know, which is
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's sacred ground for so many men,
Speaker 2: you know, and uh, you know, so there's this you
Speaker 2: get the picture, you know, so you get the spiritual
Speaker 2: warriorship and physical warriorship. And you know, then you had
Speaker 2: the Serpent Mound and then uh over in the other
Speaker 2: point you have you know, like North Carolina, uh and
Speaker 2: and going through it that there was the Missouri Compromise
Speaker 2: line went through it. So it's like for me when
Speaker 2: when I see that that line, you know, like any
Speaker 2: line that's drawn, you know, like Missouri Compromise was drawn
Speaker 2: by Congress that that really precipitated and caused the Civil
Speaker 2: War to happen. Uh, you know, North and South divided
Speaker 2: along this line. So so that was the separation between
Speaker 2: the North and South was a it was a you know,
Speaker 2: the thing of of slavery and uh, you know, so
Speaker 2: that that was uh, you know, all part of this
Speaker 2: healing that I thought could happen. You know, So I
Speaker 2: look at you know, as I saw that, I said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, since there's this polarity and you know, like
Speaker 2: Stone Mountain, Georgia, and you know, Washington Monument and all
Speaker 2: these you know, different polarities, you know, the spiritual and
Speaker 2: physical worship and then having that line going through the
Speaker 2: middle of it, uh uh suggested that there might be
Speaker 2: some healing potential here, you know, to you know that
Speaker 2: that line is still there as a consciousness field, and
Speaker 2: somehow we have to heal that to come together with
Speaker 2: as a people. You know, here in Michigan where I
Speaker 2: live presently, there's a called Michigan Meridian North South Meridian,
Speaker 2: and you know, uh that was established as a treaty
Speaker 2: line between the colonials and the Native Americans of Michigan.
Speaker 2: So it was again a line that divided people. So
Speaker 2: like we have to to so to to heal these
Speaker 2: lines that divided people, I suggest that that we bring
Speaker 2: it into a circular context and uh and you know
Speaker 2: employ these uh these are neogram geometries that can you know,
Speaker 2: you know, bring things back to wholeness and kind of
Speaker 2: like back to its original state of being. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: there's all there's a lot of healing that needs to that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of trauma, you know, caught. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of trauma in that line itself, and the Earth
Speaker 2: feels that as a you know, like it's part of
Speaker 2: the membrane field of consciousness that that that the the
Speaker 2: Earth operates with. So uh yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, the Pilot Mountain granite knob. I just want to.
Speaker 2: Comment on that spot.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's yeah exactly. And you know, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of interesting lore associated with that as it pertains
Speaker 1: to the Cherokee little people and and other various you know,
Speaker 1: supernatural uh phenomena. And you know, at one point I
Speaker 1: ended up moving from that area and I moved to Appalachia,
Speaker 1: and certain areas in Appalachia give off this powerful tangible
Speaker 1: energy and people in that community and I believed in fairies.
Speaker 1: A lot of the older people especially, they believed in fairies,
Speaker 1: and they would do certain things to sort of keep
Speaker 1: the fairies at bay. If you will. And I just
Speaker 1: wonder if you ever came across a connection between the
Speaker 1: fairies and the lay lines.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, yeah, they're one and the same,
Speaker 2: you know they Uh well, I'm thinking that they need
Speaker 2: those the theoric forces that they're they're kind of the fairies.
Speaker 2: They are elemental beings you know that can you know,
Speaker 2: come through in the physical uh. And and they they
Speaker 2: they flourish and and earth energies they need, you know,
Speaker 2: that's the that's their prana, that's there, that's their food,
Speaker 2: you know, if you will is earth energies. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they would definitely have to be around a powerful spot
Speaker 2: like that. Uh. You know, the the Irish were very
Speaker 2: you know, I'm mostly Irish, although I have a French name.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a tradition in Ireland if you live in a
Speaker 2: lay line or a fairies path, Yeah, you got to
Speaker 2: build your house with a door or on either end
Speaker 2: of the house where they where the fairies, you know,
Speaker 2: to leave a pathway for the fairies to go through
Speaker 2: your house, otherwise you're in trouble. And you know, Iceland
Speaker 2: they got the same story, you know, so and and
Speaker 2: there's a native culture. There's a lot of stories about
Speaker 2: how uh Bigfoot can get either nine foot tall or
Speaker 2: you can get a be a short person, you know,
Speaker 2: like be a be a little fairy. Uh. You know
Speaker 2: they really mudge Wauka's there's Munchwaukees, the pud pudgeak Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there we go. Yeah, pugwagis pug Yeah. Yeah. You know.
Speaker 2: So you know that these legends, you know, they they there,
Speaker 2: there's they come out of a reality, you know, but
Speaker 2: it's a spiritual reality that that we've so shut down
Speaker 2: to and uh you know, and that I think that
Speaker 2: that the great awakening that that is being you know
Speaker 2: toubted now is is awakening you know, back to those
Speaker 2: you know, being aware of these dimensional beings. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know and co creating with these dimensional beings. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we we we're here in the third D
Speaker 2: and we got to do our stuff in the third D.
Speaker 2: But you know, we we we can't be messing up
Speaker 2: with what the fairies are doing. You know, they they
Speaker 2: have their own agenda and their own work that they're doing.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, if we could be more conscious
Speaker 2: of each other's activities, we could you know, work co
Speaker 2: creatively to make a better planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the spiritual component has been almost systematically stripped
Speaker 1: away from our lives. Modern man is out of touch
Speaker 1: with nature and out of touch with the spiritual realm.
Speaker 1: And it kind of makes me think again about CERN
Speaker 1: and like that that faction of science, that the Darwinism
Speaker 1: that comes out of the British Royal Society and on
Speaker 1: into the eighteen hundreds, you know, it starts to gain traction.
Speaker 1: And then now in modern times, in the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 1: you see this non spiritual theory, secular theory of evolution
Speaker 1: that's being pumped out through all the schools, and they
Speaker 1: are in lockstep with places like CERN, who's supposedly doing
Speaker 1: all this powerful particle physics. It's supposed to change the world.
Speaker 1: But they're not in touch with nature and the spiritual
Speaker 1: and they've lost that connection. So it makes me think, like, well,
Speaker 1: what if we were putting our money instead of funding
Speaker 1: places like CERN. What if we were able to fund
Speaker 1: a big medicine will and or something to that effect
Speaker 1: to bring our consciousness back together to to realign with
Speaker 1: this planet instead of trying to blast holes through the dimension.
Speaker 1: What if we had a different approach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to employ you know, these these various
Speaker 2: methods that have come across and in the Great Lakes
Speaker 2: here I find that I think the Great Legs would
Speaker 2: be a you know, it is the place to initiate
Speaker 2: a change in the waters of the planet. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it's as a shape, it's already worked texting holy water,
Speaker 2: holy water, think holy water. So I have another website
Speaker 2: called Pure Spirit Waters. It's waters Plural dot org. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can find my can get a free copy of
Speaker 2: Deadly lay Lines on that website, and it's specifically focused
Speaker 2: on the Great Lakes and trying to make a medicine
Speaker 2: wheel out of it. You know, right now, these great
Speaker 2: spiritual waters, these great holy waters that are uh, you know,
Speaker 2: generate the weather of our continent. You know, it pulls
Speaker 2: in weather, it pushes out weather because of its mass,
Speaker 2: and you know, and right now it's all divided into
Speaker 2: all these different states and provinces, and you know, like
Speaker 2: that there's Wisconsin and Illinois and in Michigan that all
Speaker 2: lay claim to Lake Michigan. And uh, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever you know, I'm sure we
Speaker 2: were all aware of this. You know, like when I
Speaker 2: go into Ohio, I know I'm in Ohio, you know,
Speaker 2: when I go into Connecticut, I know him in Connecticut.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a totally different vibe, you know,
Speaker 2: from Virginia to North Carolina, you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: all a different vibe, you know, because of the you know,
Speaker 2: the aggregate consciousness of laws and temperament and history and
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you know, your choice of road
Speaker 2: signs or whatever, but it all it all, you know,
Speaker 2: So that having all those different consciousness is chopping up
Speaker 2: this holy water, uh kind of dampens its ability to
Speaker 2: function as it should, you know, as this generative life
Speaker 2: form that's that's you know, here to benefit it and
Speaker 2: the planet. So so I'm trying to you know, get
Speaker 2: people to you know, think of the Great Lakes as
Speaker 2: a holy water and by you know, just with that
Speaker 2: thought just over and oh look at those whole waters. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that just generating that field. Well, you know that
Speaker 2: the water will just say yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm holy,
Speaker 2: you know, and yeah, and then expire that, you know,
Speaker 2: like evaporate that into the biosphere and then the biosphere say, well, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm holy too, you know. So you know
Speaker 2: that's kind of you know that was the Christ thing.
Speaker 2: You know, when Christ, you know, died, he gave his
Speaker 2: blood to the planet and and he became part of
Speaker 2: the water of the planet. You know that that's you know,
Speaker 2: so you know, Christ never left, you know, and the
Speaker 2: second coming is us realizing that we got Christ in us,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean that's kind of you know, my
Speaker 2: my heresy, you know. But you know, so this this
Speaker 2: exchange of waters is so important.
Speaker 1: And I think too, the Great Lakes region is a
Speaker 1: very powerful region, a very ancient region. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a couple sites there I could point to. I think
Speaker 1: recently there's at the bottom of Lake Michigan. They've recently
Speaker 1: discovered this Stone Hinge circle. They're calling it Michigan's Stone Hinge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have all those copper mines, oh yeah, up from
Speaker 1: that Great Lakes region as well. And I think that
Speaker 1: that served as a hub for the ancient world, I
Speaker 1: really do. I think that the Phoenicians and and maybe
Speaker 1: the Moors and all these other groups were coming over here,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the Mississippi, they were I think they
Speaker 1: were coming right up that Mississippi like it was a
Speaker 1: giant highway and they were heading straight to that copper mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. You know, the Phoenicians would
Speaker 2: go anywhere for trade. Yeah, and they had the boats
Speaker 2: to do it. And and then there's certainly you know
Speaker 2: that that there's a there's a lot of copper taken
Speaker 2: out of there before we arrived, you know, our Europeans arrived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got.
Speaker 2: The whole Mississippian culture used a lot of copper from there,
Speaker 2: the you know Kiokia and Mounds, in the Mound culture,
Speaker 2: it's all they were big on copper. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know in Wisconsin you have these big effigy
Speaker 1: mounts where if you're looking from an aerial perspective, you're
Speaker 1: seeing a huge depiction of either a creature or a
Speaker 1: humanoid or something like that, almost like the Nasca lines.
Speaker 1: But that's here in as well. It's it's in you know,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and some of those other states up there. It's
Speaker 1: in that Great Relakes region, very very interesting place if
Speaker 1: you're in ancient history. A lot comes out of that area.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's medicine wheels out there that's quite unique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that they were coming in from
Speaker 1: two areas. I think they were some of them were
Speaker 1: back in the ancient world and the ships. We know
Speaker 1: now that that man has been sailing a lot longer
Speaker 1: than previously thought. You know, we're finding we keep finding
Speaker 1: these old boats like ancient man with seafaring, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I think too they were coming down from uh
Speaker 1: through the Hudson and they were coming down through the
Speaker 1: top of Canada, coming down into the Great Lakes region
Speaker 1: from there, and then some of them were coming up
Speaker 1: from the Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but boy, it must have been troublesome dealing
Speaker 2: with those giants, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, you mentioned all these effigy mounds
Speaker 2: and uh and the mounds the mound culture of the
Speaker 2: Mississippian culture was, you know, when the farmers were knocking
Speaker 2: down those mounds to make their fields flat, Uh, they
Speaker 2: were finding giant skeletons under each one of these mounds,
Speaker 2: you know. And it was there were thousands, thousands of
Speaker 2: of of reports in the newspapers. Yeah, and uh, I
Speaker 2: was that Lincoln even spoke of the giants that once
Speaker 2: were oamed here and uh, you know, and and uh know,
Speaker 2: and then the natives, you know, know the giants, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the red hair giant cannibals and you know
Speaker 2: in the down the south, I think there was out
Speaker 2: in Georgia there there's a uh an ancient site just
Speaker 2: off the coast, you know, in the water that was
Speaker 2: inundated in the flood. Uh You know that that that
Speaker 2: has steps in it that were like a giant's you know,
Speaker 2: like giants lived there. Yes, so uh you know, I
Speaker 2: I think that there was the Earth was a different
Speaker 2: animal back back then. You know that that that you know,
Speaker 2: in order to allow for this uh uh megaflora and
Speaker 2: fauna to flourish, there had to have been a different
Speaker 2: uh rate of radiation. Right now only as little hobbits
Speaker 2: can uh can manage to live on the planet because
Speaker 2: you know, in our lifespan is so short because of
Speaker 2: this radiation. That's that that that's aging us so quickly.
Speaker 2: Prior to prior to the flood, you know, people are
Speaker 2: living to be a thousand, like like you know, seven
Speaker 2: hundred years or something. And as I got closer and
Speaker 2: closer to historic times, who were you know, you know
Speaker 2: after the flood, we started to uh not lived so long,
Speaker 2: so so that it kind of indicated that there was
Speaker 2: a like a firmament above us that collapsed, you know,
Speaker 2: where it all out forty days. Man, that's a lot
Speaker 2: of rain. So where'd all that water come from? Well,
Speaker 2: it must have been an affirmament above. You know, there
Speaker 2: was a group back in the seventies that that that
Speaker 2: that you know, you know that this is not my
Speaker 2: original stuff here, this is someone else, uh, the Dragon Project.
Speaker 2: I think it was called, uh, but they you know,
Speaker 2: so when that collapsed, all the mega fauna and flora collapsed,
Speaker 2: and the remnants of that we see in the in
Speaker 2: in in Bigfoot, you know, in the Sasquatch and the
Speaker 2: Sami people where they uh, they have to live at
Speaker 2: night because they can't you know, they're they're a large stature,
Speaker 2: can't handle the radiation. So you know, they're they're kind
Speaker 2: of a degenerated form of what used to be the
Speaker 2: the giant the giants that lived here in the Americas
Speaker 2: that you know are mentioned by you know whatever America
Speaker 2: of a speechy or whoever whatever Italian or Spaniard was
Speaker 2: exploring the coast. You know, down in uh Tia de Fuego,
Speaker 2: there was a whole tribe of giants that lived down there,
Speaker 2: eight feet tall and such. Yeah, absolutely, Catalina, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: so you know and man, you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: can you imagine living with megaflora and fauna? You know,
Speaker 2: you'd have to be like a Bigfoot character to survive it,
Speaker 2: you know, in stealth quiet you know, Man, there's a
Speaker 2: dinosaur chasing me or whatever. You know, it's a you know,
Speaker 2: a different, different set of environmental issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this almost takes us full circle to
Speaker 1: perhaps what we talked about at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 1: where we're talking about these these old maps and and
Speaker 1: where it looks like something changed, whether it was a
Speaker 1: pole shift or what. There were regions of the planet
Speaker 1: right now that are cold that used to be tropical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that you see, and it all kind of points
Speaker 1: back to this right.
Speaker 2: Right, And there's limestone everywhere on the planet, and limestone
Speaker 2: only exists, you know, if there's a coral reef, and
Speaker 2: coral reefs only exist in equators, so the equator has
Speaker 2: got to move. Yeah. Yeah, And I think there's a
Speaker 2: you know, there's a periodic restoration uh uh, restoration, re
Speaker 2: enlivening of the Earth's magnetic field that that's necessary. It
Speaker 2: loses its energy, you know, it gets stripped away by
Speaker 2: solar radiation, and uh, you know, like right now the
Speaker 2: Earth is its polarity is starting to mix. You know,
Speaker 2: you have like the mid Atlantic anomaly, in the Indian
Speaker 2: Ocean anomaly, and the and the North pole going towards
Speaker 2: Russia at you know, forty kilometers a year, and you know,
Speaker 2: so you get all this movement of the magnetic field.
Speaker 2: But the magnetic field is losing its coherence. So there's
Speaker 2: more and more radiation coming in, more light coming in,
Speaker 2: and so but every twenty thousand years in the geologic record,
Speaker 2: you'll see that the Earth's magnetic field coalesces into a
Speaker 2: clear polarity along the plane of the equator where north
Speaker 2: you know, north is blue and south is orange. But
Speaker 2: right now all those polarities are all blended, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like we're you know, as a plant. You know,
Speaker 2: we're starting to blend sexes, know as the most you know,
Speaker 2: like kind of the most obvious thing of the present days,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, gender fluidity. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: magnetic fluidity in the planet itself. So but uh, whenever
Speaker 2: that this this happens, there's a regeneration of the magnetic
Speaker 2: field that that then protects us from this you know,
Speaker 2: so it has to do this this regeneration periodically too
Speaker 2: to maintain it's it's it's life, to maintain its conditions
Speaker 2: for life. So you know, we're we're kind of I mean,
Speaker 2: we're right there at that bridge zone where uh so
Speaker 2: you know the way I you know, somehow we got
Speaker 2: to be able to uh uh maintain the Earth magnetic
Speaker 2: field at it's optimum level without having to having the
Speaker 2: Earth resorts to Earth changes because you know, like if
Speaker 2: you change the polarity of the planet, like like if
Speaker 2: North becomes South, which has happened in the past. You know,
Speaker 2: think of a dynamo, you know, and simple mechanics of
Speaker 2: a dynamo. When you reverse polarity in a dynamo, it
Speaker 2: changes direction of spin. So if you do that, then
Speaker 2: if the direction of spins change, then you get places
Speaker 2: like the Andes Whichelo Geologists look at the Andes and say,
Speaker 2: you know, it looks like it was thrown up into
Speaker 2: a day, you know the way, and how did that happen?
Speaker 2: You know, So you know, you get a planet that
Speaker 2: stops one direction and starts spinning the other. The whole
Speaker 2: crust has to adjust and when those crystal forces moved.
Speaker 2: You get this this heat and heat and pressure being
Speaker 2: put along the the you know, throughout the whole planet,
Speaker 2: and that generates is the electric energy. So that in
Speaker 2: itself then then restores the magnetic field with the with
Speaker 2: the renewed charge that was generated by the Earth changes.
Speaker 2: So it's it's like the Earth changes are a good
Speaker 2: thing for life, but it's not so good for civilization.
Speaker 2: So somehow, in order for us to get to the
Speaker 2: point of of of being an interstellar civilization, we have
Speaker 2: to first figure out how to manage our own planet
Speaker 2: to last more than you know, for a civilization to
Speaker 2: develop for more than twenty thousand years.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, well we're concerned about going to Mars right now,
Speaker 1: so some of us, not.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, yeah, you know, not me, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, you need to I mean, they
Speaker 2: have to have these special frequency generators, right, you know,
Speaker 2: to to mimic the the what's it called.
Speaker 1: That you need a synthetic environment that you.
Speaker 2: Paced environment that mimics the Earth. You know, Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: just stick.
Speaker 1: You just stick with the real thing and you'll be around.
Speaker 1: You know that that opens up a whole other can
Speaker 1: of worms. I think I think some of these guys
Speaker 1: are wanting to go to space to mine space for
Speaker 1: minerals and you know, precious metals and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and they're they're probably going to say in the process
Speaker 1: of doing that, they're going to maybe say that they
Speaker 1: want to start a new civilization to get everybody excited
Speaker 1: about it, to get funding and all that. But really
Speaker 1: it's probably just all about the same old, same old.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of innovation that comes from it.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of innovation that comes from war. It's you know, it's
Speaker 2: like wars really fueled civilization.
Speaker 1: It's naive to think that we would do any different
Speaker 1: in space than what we've done here on Earth. And
Speaker 1: what do we do here on Earth. We we we
Speaker 1: conquer and we war and we care about profits. M
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, it's hard for me to think
Speaker 1: that somebody is going to go to space and do
Speaker 1: any differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm advocating the move, the moving of the
Speaker 2: Primaridi into someplace more mellow than London.
Speaker 1: Yeah London is uh. I mean, you know, talk about
Speaker 1: these talk about these elites that that run things that set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole worldview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the whole world view. Like you know, you've
Speaker 1: got the Vatican, which we alluded to earlier, you know,
Speaker 1: with with the Dark Ages and with the Church, and
Speaker 1: the Vatican is who said let's put these churches on
Speaker 1: the sacred sites. The Vatican is its own little like state.
Speaker 1: And you have that in London too, right, like the
Speaker 1: bankers have a couple of blocks there. It's almost like
Speaker 1: like DC, the Vatican Stern and this area in London
Speaker 1: are what would you call nation states.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one at the center of d C, the
Speaker 2: called the Organization of American States. It's it's it's its
Speaker 2: own nation state. And that's right at the center of
Speaker 2: the crossing lines of the of Washington d C geometry.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we have a nation state
Speaker 2: that's actually setting the setting the frequential tone of our capital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like they're they're using this old pyramid
Speaker 1: uh energy right, I mean do you think that the
Speaker 1: same goes for for London.
Speaker 2: Well, you know some say that the primary and used
Speaker 2: to go through the Great Pyramid. Yeah, you know that
Speaker 2: would make sense that it would because of the Nile.
Speaker 2: You know, the Nile is like the Nile Meridian is
Speaker 2: you know, like so it's a very obvious line in
Speaker 2: the in the sand there and plane in the water.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know it used to be in France
Speaker 2: and different places, but you know, right right now it's
Speaker 2: in England. And that's that's in training. Uh, in training
Speaker 2: time with you know English economic you know, profit through
Speaker 2: suffering English Uh, Darwinian economics. Uh, Darwinian worldview. Uh. You
Speaker 2: know it's like where nature is all about cooperation. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's like for some reason the
Speaker 2: English think it's it's competition. So uh but.
Speaker 1: Uh, I just wonder because I've heard you say in
Speaker 1: the past that George Washington was trying to tap into
Speaker 1: the Western civilizational energy and yeah, yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: in a different context, yeah than this, but I think
Speaker 1: it was. I think about these places like londoncern Vatican
Speaker 1: and d C. As places that you know, at one
Speaker 1: point they were trying to tap into some sort of
Speaker 1: civilizational energy to as a control vector.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, you know, you got you got all these
Speaker 2: people running around free, will you gotta yeah, keep under controls.
Speaker 1: That's right, That's that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, and we have to have agreed
Speaker 2: upon rules. But uh, you know, to have time governed
Speaker 2: by by England. Is I think has run its course?
Speaker 2: You know, it should be placed somewhere else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's where your message of healing comes comes
Speaker 1: into play. And I can appreciate that. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, kind of winding down here, I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you this a little off topic maybe,
Speaker 1: but do you have any personal stories of supernatural happenings?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, I can't really. Uh well, there there
Speaker 2: there was one time I discorporated in a car crash.
Speaker 2: You know, that was probably the most supernatural or unusual.
Speaker 2: You know, I got currents. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of synchronicities in my life. I follow the synchronicities to
Speaker 2: to you know, it's kind of kind of thick. I
Speaker 2: don't really have a really uh kind of intuition. That's
Speaker 2: that's you know, obviously, you know someone's talking to me,
Speaker 2: My guides are telling me what to do or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's just they have to communicate through synchronicity
Speaker 2: and and you know, and I'm I've gotten good at
Speaker 2: reading that, so you know, reading the land, reading the
Speaker 2: signs and such. But when I was twenty one, this
Speaker 2: is really what got me he sent me on the
Speaker 2: road of you know, searching for you know, the great mystery.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine had just gotten for his twenty
Speaker 2: first birthday a new you know, nine fourteen portie guaranteed
Speaker 2: never to flip. So he was dry out driving and
Speaker 2: is actually as his brother just passed, and he was
Speaker 2: not feeling the best, so, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: he was going a little too fast around his hairpin
Speaker 2: turn and hit a patch of sand. And in this car,
Speaker 2: you know, there's three of us in this car. None
Speaker 2: of us had seatbelts on. My girlfriend was in the
Speaker 2: middle there and I was a passenger, and he was driving,
Speaker 2: and we just seen a spun and took out every
Speaker 2: single I mean every single side of the car, all
Speaker 2: the glasses gone, the whole all four sides were all
Speaker 2: mashed up, going against the guardrails and everything. And and
Speaker 2: when the crash started to happen, I just exited, you know,
Speaker 2: It's like, oh no, I'm not going to go through this,
Speaker 2: you know. And uh so I'm up floating, floating, and
Speaker 2: I've just found myself floating above this car, watching this
Speaker 2: destruction below me, and looking at myself in the seat,
Speaker 2: you know, and my consciousness was definitely up there and
Speaker 2: looking down, you know, into the cab of the car,
Speaker 2: and you're like, fenders are going through me, and how
Speaker 2: you know, how am I not feeling that fender going
Speaker 2: through me? This is kind of strange, you know, glass
Speaker 2: going through me? And like, wow, this is really weird.
Speaker 2: Uh And uh so I looked down in the car
Speaker 2: and the three of us are held in place by
Speaker 2: this uh like green gel emerald green like blob or
Speaker 2: you know, it almost looked dimensional or or you know,
Speaker 2: it was a real thick mist, let's put it that way,
Speaker 2: real thick miss that really had body to it. That
Speaker 2: was just like holding us, you know, like who should
Speaker 2: have been ejected out of there? All three of us
Speaker 2: should have been flying out of that cockpit, but there
Speaker 2: was this green mist. You know. So we landed and
Speaker 2: you know, and stopped finally, and you know, within a
Speaker 2: couple of inches of this killing tree that people who
Speaker 2: would go around this corner would end up, you know,
Speaker 2: driving right into you know, scars all over the tree
Speaker 2: from cars wrecking it and stuff. And we stopped within
Speaker 2: a feet you know, a foot of this tree. And
Speaker 2: that was you know, I just when that ended, I
Speaker 2: was I was just laughing. I just couldn't stop laughing,
Speaker 2: you know, just by the you know, the pure joy
Speaker 2: of living all that. And I felt from that moment,
Speaker 2: I felt as though I had something to do, Like
Speaker 2: my life was saved for a reason, and I had
Speaker 2: to find out what that is. So I started looking
Speaker 2: into the you know, the green Man of the desert,
Speaker 2: the green mists, the whole you know, the the angelic greens,
Speaker 2: the you know, you know, what's what does this mean?
Speaker 2: You know, the green of nature, the green man? You
Speaker 2: know who? You know, what was this? What was this
Speaker 2: presence that saved my life and saved the three of
Speaker 2: our lives there, you know. So so that that that
Speaker 2: really got me going. And soon afterwards I started to
Speaker 2: you know, pull out the maps and uh, I you know,
Speaker 2: I read these, you know, the I grew up in
Speaker 2: a five college area in western Massachusetts where we had
Speaker 2: these you know, first class, world world class libraries to
Speaker 2: uh you know, so I embarked on a journey of
Speaker 2: self education. Yeah, and you know, kind of insatiable curiosity,
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out what this green myst was,
Speaker 2: you know, you know kind of what brought me into
Speaker 2: religious studies. Comparative religion. It brought me into environmental studies.
Speaker 2: It brought me, you know, so it's what really turned
Speaker 2: me into a geographer.
Speaker 1: You put you on a journey. Yeah, I've read about
Speaker 1: green mist in various paranormal accounts and some UFO incidents
Speaker 1: as well. People report seeing a green What is it?
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't tell you that because.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I you know, I I've often wondered myself, what's what's
Speaker 1: the deal with that? You know, you'll hear researchers. There's
Speaker 1: a researcher from Canada who put out a book about
Speaker 1: paranormal fog m And I don't know if that ties
Speaker 1: into this or not. But I've also, you know, I've
Speaker 1: come across these encounters about this green mist and it
Speaker 1: kind of rolls in like a fog, and people will
Speaker 1: see lights or entities or a craft will show up
Speaker 1: in this mist. And I don't know if this ties
Speaker 1: into your experience or not, but I do think that
Speaker 1: car accidents can teach us a lot. You know, growing
Speaker 1: up in the South, people were very skeptical about things
Speaker 1: like UFOs and remote viewing and astill travel and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But most everybody in the South knew someone
Speaker 1: or had experienced himself and out of body experience. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's a a barrier there. I
Speaker 1: think if you're if you if our minds and our
Speaker 1: spirit can go out of body and have this experience
Speaker 1: where you're looking down at yourself, why can't you figure
Speaker 1: out a way to control that and and remote view
Speaker 1: and do some of this other stuff. I just I
Speaker 1: just think that they're part of the same type of experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's so like the NDS and everything. You know,
Speaker 2: people come back with you know, when you're exposed to
Speaker 2: such you know, spiritual Yeah, obviously some kind of spiritual
Speaker 2: energy or force, you know, it awakens you. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean a lot of a lot of these nds come back,
Speaker 2: you know as healers and psychics and such.
Speaker 1: And I've heard two guys who have been in war,
Speaker 1: I've heard them talk about the out of body experiences
Speaker 1: where I know there was one story in particular, I
Speaker 1: heard a guy tell and he was going through an
Speaker 1: area that was he was surrounded by enemy forces and
Speaker 1: the road he was on was notorious for land mines,
Speaker 1: and he had to he had to kind of go
Speaker 1: up this road notorious for landmines to get out of
Speaker 1: this area, and he and he had to go through
Speaker 1: fire from he was he was a death trap that
Speaker 1: he was driving through, but he had to get through it.
Speaker 1: And he was driving some sort of a big military truck.
Speaker 1: But he talked about how at the pivotal moment of
Speaker 1: that experience, it's like, in the next couple of seconds,
Speaker 1: I might be dead, but I have to do this.
Speaker 1: He went out of body and he went up above
Speaker 1: his truck, and he said he was looking down and
Speaker 1: he was watching himself drive this truck through this checkpoint
Speaker 1: of death. And he made it through. There were bullet
Speaker 1: holes all through the truck and and everything, but he
Speaker 1: made it. And uh, you know, he came back down
Speaker 1: in his body and he was it was He says,
Speaker 1: it was almost as if he never stopped driving. There
Speaker 1: was a polarity to it. He was able to drive
Speaker 1: and be out of body. Yeah, and and and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he's in this crisis. He's in this time
Speaker 1: of his life where everything is elevated, the senses are elevated,
Speaker 1: the states are elevated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you discorporate and everything slows down, you know.
Speaker 2: So he could he could have watched a bullet approaching
Speaker 2: him and moved aside, you know, had his body move aside,
Speaker 2: and you know, go one way or another. I mean,
Speaker 2: because yeah, you can see what's happening.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like that movie The Matrix. It's like if
Speaker 1: you were to break that down and you were to
Speaker 1: look at that like this, like, Okay, we're we're stuck
Speaker 1: in this three dimensional scenery. We're like it's like our
Speaker 1: spirits are cod We're coded to be in this body.
Speaker 1: Our spirits are for a time trapped in these three
Speaker 1: dimensional bodies. In the world around us a three dimensional
Speaker 1: but your mind can access the fourth dimension, you know.
Speaker 1: Einstein's said that space was the fourth dimension, and remote
Speaker 1: viewers when they talk about remote viewing, they talk about
Speaker 1: seeing things no longer into third dimension, you know, and
Speaker 1: dreams sometimes it's almost like you're in another dimension. So
Speaker 1: I think I think there's the mind can access the
Speaker 1: fourth dimension. And you know, if you wanted to get
Speaker 1: real nerdy about it, you could probably say in the Matrix,
Speaker 1: when they were dodging bullets, they were tapping into that mentally,
Speaker 1: like you're tapping into this fourth dimension for just a
Speaker 1: second and you're able to things things things on this
Speaker 1: side of the veil. Slow down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's stories in the World War One we're dealing
Speaker 2: with with Turkish uh dervishes, you know, the whirling dervishes,
Speaker 2: uh people that it's a practice where he spent turning.
Speaker 2: It's uh oh yeah, yeah, you know MeV Levy Roomy
Speaker 2: uh uh gumalody and Roomy was when I started that.
Speaker 2: But you know, these guys that you know, do these
Speaker 2: spiritual practices were uh, you know, kind of invincible. You
Speaker 2: know they you know, shooting machine guns on them and
Speaker 2: they just wouldn't stop, you know. They it was like
Speaker 2: they were dodging bullets or the bullets were kind of
Speaker 2: going through them and having no effect, you know, because
Speaker 2: they were they were in a kind of a spiritual
Speaker 2: dimension when they were, you know, in this act of war.
Speaker 1: And they said the same for crazy Horse.
Speaker 2: True. Yeah, crazy Horse too. Yeah. And you know, put
Speaker 2: a plug into the Native people. Boy. You know, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, their sovereign relationship with Creator. It's it's like
Speaker 2: that's where we're supposed to be. And they were the
Speaker 2: biggest threat to the church and government because of their
Speaker 2: sovereign free will relationship with creator.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I see that with these out
Speaker 1: here in Tennessee. We have some ancient sites that are
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the lake. The whole valley was
Speaker 1: flooded when they put a dam in in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: And you have.
Speaker 1: This whole story of these people who were spiritually married
Speaker 1: to the land and it's gone, and it's done intentionally,
Speaker 1: and it had to do with this idea of manifest
Speaker 1: destiny and and something you just said where it's like
Speaker 1: they needed these people to be savages. They needed these
Speaker 1: people to look uncivilized so they could justify killing them
Speaker 1: off because their way of being is like a threat,
Speaker 1: their connection the sources a threat.
Speaker 2: Well, you know the Native people and indigenous people around
Speaker 2: the world. You know, there's just such a gift that
Speaker 2: they that they possess and we've almost lost it. We
Speaker 2: almost killed them all off. And it's it's it's, you know,
Speaker 2: I say, we as you know, a collective thing that
Speaker 2: you know, it's like think, think, you know, praise, uh.
Speaker 2: You know, the great Spirit first is saving at least
Speaker 2: some of them to carry on and make that contribution
Speaker 2: to the you know, human you know the experience of
Speaker 2: the human and uh, you know, and now we're at
Speaker 2: the threshold of of uh, you know, pablishing relationship with
Speaker 2: another tribe that's you know, like has been in isolation
Speaker 2: and you know, hiding from us, you know, the forest people,
Speaker 2: the big people, you know, they they also have a
Speaker 2: tremendous contribution to make to human human culture and society
Speaker 2: and and uh, you know, just God, God love them,
Speaker 2: you know, to have something wild out there still, it's
Speaker 2: just just it really is a bomb to my soul,
Speaker 2: you know. And you know, the knowledge that they have
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I mean, yeah, they're violent people,
Speaker 2: and yeah they're they stink and stuff, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and you could associate them with animals, but they they
Speaker 2: have a consciousness, they have a contribution that that's part
Speaker 2: of this earth and uh and and we have to
Speaker 2: make space for that that to be, you know, for
Speaker 2: them to be because and to bring them into decision
Speaker 2: making process of these somehow you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had them in when I moved, I told
Speaker 1: you I moved to Appalachia. I moved to a little
Speaker 1: town out there and remote area. You know, my backyard.
Speaker 1: From my backyard, I could see the Blue Ridge Mountains
Speaker 1: beautiful place, and we had these We lived alongside of
Speaker 1: these other ensees. They would come out at night. M hm.
Speaker 1: You would hear them, they would shake trees, you know.
Speaker 1: And and across the street from my house was a
Speaker 1: was a mountain, a sacred mountain. It was sacred to
Speaker 1: the Native American people's They still had enough control over
Speaker 1: it to where they wouldn't allow that mountain to be developed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was it was almost like there was a
Speaker 1: portal there for these things to come through, because they
Speaker 1: would always come down from that mountain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was in listening to you know, I
Speaker 2: mean I listened to you know, my bedtime, my nursery
Speaker 2: rhyme stories are listening to the Bigfoot. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: listen to these stories. I discovered that there was a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of them that were spots spotted in this
Speaker 2: place I used to live, you know, back back in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: all over the place, you know, and I was always
Speaker 2: out in the woods, and you know, I'm sure they
Speaker 2: you know, I was within I was probably within feet
Speaker 2: of these things and didn't even know they were there,
Speaker 2: you know. And my stumbling around my own head.
Speaker 1: I had one I was walking through I was walking
Speaker 1: down a it's like a parking lot for a church
Speaker 1: in this area I lived, and I was just trying
Speaker 1: to get some exercise and that the sun had gone down,
Speaker 1: and the back of this parking lot backed up to
Speaker 1: fields and wilderness. There was nothing between that parking lot
Speaker 1: and the blue Rich mountains almost And I'm walking along
Speaker 1: and I'm getting ready to turn down this little graveyard
Speaker 1: road and right in front of me, these two trees
Speaker 1: just started to shake. Huge trees started shaking like crazy.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Looked my eyes scanned the rest of the tree line
Speaker 1: because I was like, I wanted it to just be
Speaker 1: a breeze. I wanted to be the wind blowing these trees,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It was just these two trees that
Speaker 1: were shaking. And so I turned down the graveyard road
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do I do now? Do I
Speaker 1: run or do I walk? So I decided I'm just
Speaker 1: going to play it cool and just keep walking because
Speaker 1: I thought at the time that maybe it was a
Speaker 1: bear that was I don't know, scratch in his back
Speaker 1: or something like that. But later on, and as I
Speaker 1: as the years passed, you know, I learned that there
Speaker 1: it wasn't a bear, you know, and there was a
Speaker 1: presence there, There was a squatch presence there, and you know,
Speaker 1: and I thought about it too. It's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know that a bear would have been able to shape
Speaker 1: both those trees like that. Uh, it was very intentional,
Speaker 1: it was. It was there was something on the other
Speaker 1: edge of that tree line was saying, you're coming towards me.
Speaker 1: You need to go stop coming towards me. Yea friendly
Speaker 1: little reminder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're Uh, they got a job to do
Speaker 2: and they're out there doing it. You know.
Speaker 1: I think too, they come in close to they will
Speaker 1: come in. Like you said in Massachusetts, you thought you
Speaker 1: had them around it. I've heard that they'll come into
Speaker 1: these come in close to civilization as well. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard stories out of rowing up Virginia where they
Speaker 1: come into neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know the neighborhood They've been spotted in
Speaker 2: Central Park.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know. I hadn't heard that one. Wow,
Speaker 1: they wanted to see that Cleopatra needle.
Speaker 2: They did, you know, go do some earth energy work
Speaker 2: and then adjust the frequencies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know your wealth of knowledge. I want
Speaker 1: to encourage people to go out and check out some
Speaker 1: of the books you have to offer, some of your titles.
Speaker 1: People need to go check out Geometry of Place. It's
Speaker 1: a really great website. I want to thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing your time with me today and a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah it has. And you know, tell people anything you
Speaker 1: want to know where they can find you or where
Speaker 1: they can find your books.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know it's on Geometryofplace dot com. I
Speaker 2: have my email address and use even my phone numbers
Speaker 2: on there if you want to get me a call.
Speaker 2: I'm very you know, I mean, the New Age community
Speaker 2: isn't exactly pounding down my door. So I appreciate this
Speaker 2: opportunity to speak. But you know, I'm very open to community,
Speaker 2: getting with anybody that even even haters, you know. I
Speaker 2: give everybody equal time and uh so. Yeah, so the
Speaker 2: Geometryfplace dot com and there's many articles that I've written
Speaker 2: associated you know, on that just explore it. Uh it's
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't really put much content on there.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, I've lost use of the program that I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not not the best tech person, uh,
Speaker 2: which I need a tech person to you know, get
Speaker 2: me more out there into the collective consciousness. But I'm
Speaker 2: also on my other website is called Pure Spirit waters
Speaker 2: dot org and that's in the Great Lakes. But it
Speaker 2: also has uh, you know kind of it applies all
Speaker 2: all of my pseudo science on the on the Great Lakes,
Speaker 2: my way of looking at things, and and there's you
Speaker 2: know that there's any number of these YouTube videos I
Speaker 2: put out there. There are some YouTube videos that I
Speaker 2: produced myself that that's on you can find that through
Speaker 2: my name Peter Schampoo. Uh that's I state in French.
Speaker 2: But shampoo is how most the American knows they can't
Speaker 2: stay Schan's shampoo. And I'm okay with that. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's uh, what what I've done is I've discovered
Speaker 2: the bubbling matrix of the world. And my my next
Speaker 2: big project is to is to make an encyclopedia of
Speaker 2: Earth rings that identifies all these these things like pilot
Speaker 2: mountain and pilot mountain wheel all over the planet that uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you can you can maybe see in that
Speaker 2: map behind you that there are a lot of curver
Speaker 2: linear lines that that make up the planet shapes. And
Speaker 2: essentially what I do is I just take those those
Speaker 2: those naturally curving lines and look for a center point
Speaker 2: and uh, and it generates an earth ring what I
Speaker 2: call it earth rings. And those earth rings are then
Speaker 2: you know, like that the coast of Mexico, California, for instance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that that arc has resolved at a radius
Speaker 2: and Chouburn Falls, Massachusetts, and and that that that that
Speaker 2: also defines the North American tectonic plate. And that plate's
Speaker 2: the same size as Mars, and it's the same size
Speaker 2: as the Earth, the diameter of the Earth's outer core.
Speaker 2: So uh, it's all this whole worldview. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get down into a one solid piece of work for
Speaker 2: the benefit of the future before I lose all these
Speaker 2: brain cells. And uh yeah, so I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: that produced. If you feel so called, to help me
Speaker 2: do that. I need a lot of tech support. I
Speaker 2: need mapping software and all kinds of stuff I'm not
Speaker 2: really capable of handling technically, but yeah, so I'm working
Speaker 2: on that's to try to, you know, at least get
Speaker 2: a rudimentary encyclopedia put together to identify all these various
Speaker 2: rings and you know, give a little give my take
Speaker 2: on what I think they this all means. So that's
Speaker 2: my next project.
Speaker 1: And that's what I see online a lot in certain forums.
Speaker 1: People will get on there and they'll express their frustration
Speaker 1: for the lack of accessibility for finding out information on
Speaker 1: lay lines. Essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a difficult one because there's
Speaker 2: so many of them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to have a a you know, like a
Speaker 2: Google or style thing with every lay line, and I
Speaker 2: dearly love to see that happen, but you know that
Speaker 2: would cost millions, if not billion, and uh and and
Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, and you need a lot of
Speaker 2: technical expertise, and we need to have a model of
Speaker 2: the Earth that's uh, that's an ellipsoid, not a sphere,
Speaker 2: you know, so we can get accurate mapping of these things.
Speaker 2: And you know, we need a consortium of geomanswers you know,
Speaker 2: to come together and actually you know, work on this
Speaker 2: world project and and put it all together. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like, you know, this is long term profit,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, you know, you know, it's one of
Speaker 2: the things, you know, you know, confirmation bias is one
Speaker 2: thing that's a problem with me. My material people accepting it,
Speaker 2: and cognitive dissonance too, because you know, well, if this
Speaker 2: is the case, man, what's that mean? So uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and then it's this other thing of you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't have direct personal empowerment involved with it, more like
Speaker 2: a planetary empowerment and collective consciousness and people are you know,
Speaker 2: in my in person lectures, the question is always, you know,
Speaker 2: is there a lay line through my house? You know,
Speaker 2: everybody's you know, it's his ego, you know, it's just
Speaker 2: the nature of the human condition. Yeah, everybody wants to
Speaker 2: know if they have the power in their house. And
Speaker 2: you know, personally, it's like, don't live on lay lines.
Speaker 1: You know, there's too many bad fairies that want to
Speaker 1: go out there your house. Yeah, well, I'll just send
Speaker 1: out the call right now. Then, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: out there and you're listening and your tech savvy and
Speaker 1: you want to reach out to Peter sounds like he
Speaker 1: could maybe use someone for his websites and maybe this encyclopedia.
Speaker 2: My name at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and if you can't find your way to him,
Speaker 1: just shoot me a message. I'll I'll give you his
Speaker 1: email and this all that stuff. So yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: out there in your tech savvy and you want to
Speaker 1: embark on a good cause. Really, you know, I I
Speaker 1: think too, like if you go to a place like
Speaker 1: Serpent Mound, you are going to feel something personal with
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, I think you're going to feel something.
Speaker 1: I mean there's places in Appalachia too. I know every
Speaker 1: time I go there, I can feel something tangible there.
Speaker 1: The earth has these spots, and I think we can
Speaker 1: connect to them. I don't. You know, we don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need them, like you say, like running right through the
Speaker 1: center of our property, but they're out there. So But
Speaker 1: you know, before I open up another can of worms,
Speaker 1: let's shoot, we'll just leave it at that, and I
Speaker 1: will leave it with the call for maybe someone out
Speaker 1: there to to link up with you and help you
Speaker 1: with some of these endeavors.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to be a conduit for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone as always break the mold, conquer the realm. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening, Pisciallyally