Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday.
Speaker 2: That means it's pop and Bravo and I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk today with my friend jolt To Greenberg of Hot
Speaker 2: Mesterpiece Theater.
Speaker 1: Hi you, young girl.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm so glad to be here. Thank you for
Speaker 3: having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you not have a lot of shared loves
Speaker 2: because you love Bravo obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you love also TLC.
Speaker 3: I do. I love that learning channel.
Speaker 4: I love I love to learn about the fiance visa process.
Speaker 1: Just this week, I was talking to.
Speaker 2: God It'll come to me, but it involved somebody talking
Speaker 2: about coming from another country, and I go, well, I
Speaker 2: actually know a lot about this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just remembered.
Speaker 2: It was my hair It was my hair lady, and
Speaker 2: we were talking and her daughter, they're from here, from Virginia.
Speaker 2: Her daughter has a boyfriend and he is Indian. Okay,
Speaker 2: the parents came from India. The boy is you know,
Speaker 2: Indian American, but the parents are from India. So the
Speaker 2: daughter who's been dating this guy for a year has
Speaker 2: never met the parents. And she starts.
Speaker 1: Telling me like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He says, like the parents are pretty strict and I go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: they're never getting married.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: I said, I hate to tell you this, but I
Speaker 2: know a lot about Indian marriages from my programs. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know we got Indian matchmaking, we've got family karma.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've got all.
Speaker 1: The people on our TLC shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I said no, I said, they're never getting married.
Speaker 2: And she's like, and he has to have kids because
Speaker 2: she's like, my daughter never wants to have kids. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he has to have kids. He's the
Speaker 2: only son.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no backup son. Like culturally, they're there's
Speaker 3: a lot of weight on his shoulders.
Speaker 2: I said, not like Ginny and Cement, where there's a
Speaker 2: backup son that can give.
Speaker 3: Right a right. They have a age appropriate wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, they know. And she goes, yeah. I
Speaker 2: keep telling her. I keep telling her. She goes, and
Speaker 2: he lied to his parents about what I do because
Speaker 2: he because he told me that, you know, his parents culturally,
Speaker 2: they they want their their child to marry into an
Speaker 2: affluent family. So she goes, So me, just being like
Speaker 2: master hairstyles at the salon for twenty five years is
Speaker 2: not enough. He had to tell his parents that I
Speaker 2: own the salon.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2: So she goes, but I don't. And that made me
Speaker 2: mad because I'm like, why is what I do not
Speaker 2: good enough? I was like, that could be on him.
Speaker 2: You know, you could meet the parents and they could
Speaker 2: be lovely and you.
Speaker 4: Know totally that could be his his like wrong assumptions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so interesting talking to her when I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, something I know about that, I've learned.
Speaker 3: I know a lot about this.
Speaker 1: I told her to watch Indian match Making and to watch.
Speaker 4: Family Karma, right, yeah, those are good ones that that
Speaker 4: show the like the dating process and the engagement process.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and then how involved the parents usually are.
Speaker 4: So it's a bad time if you're being kept a secret.
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, however, if they do get
Speaker 2: wedding married, I would like to go because I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with being able to go to an Indian wedding.
Speaker 4: They dying the best how fun wedding ever, the best
Speaker 4: biggest party, like most fun. I've been to some semi
Speaker 4: Indian weddings and they are just like the most fun
Speaker 4: like and like all the colors everything's so bright and.
Speaker 3: Beautiful, like yeah, and the outfits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's wearing like the coolest, most beautiful clothes.
Speaker 3: It's it's much more of like a spectacle.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so I'm dying to go.
Speaker 2: Somebody did send me on Instagram the other day, like,
Speaker 2: you know that you can go to an Indian wedding
Speaker 2: because these some of these big weddings in India, they
Speaker 2: do want Americans to come, you know, so they'll invite you.
Speaker 3: And I go, I did not know about this.
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing, she said, and she sent me
Speaker 2: like a whole article about it. And I go, do
Speaker 2: you have to pay him one way?
Speaker 3: Because right is included?
Speaker 2: I would it's a nice hotel included, because I don't
Speaker 2: want to stay at like Jenny's apartment with her in snow.
Speaker 3: You know, no, No, she doesn't clean very much. I hear,
Speaker 3: m m.
Speaker 1: She's just she's just like I'm trying to be retired,
Speaker 1: like nobody.
Speaker 3: This is my wrong marriage for that retirement.
Speaker 2: This is my drop that I have here on the show,
Speaker 2: which is Summitt saying hold on, let me make sure
Speaker 2: it doesn't loop.
Speaker 1: This is great for audio. This is Sumant.
Speaker 3: You're not professional.
Speaker 1: We are not professional work people.
Speaker 3: I could tell that the way you phraised that to me.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so good.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see how the family cafe turns out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently Dad is going like scooping water out of
Speaker 2: the toilet and using that.
Speaker 4: I mean, what now, you were using toilet water and
Speaker 4: that's a no no, even if it's going through the
Speaker 4: espresso machine.
Speaker 2: Well, I was like, because it looks like some of
Speaker 2: it throws out, like a whole thing of potatoes that
Speaker 2: he boiled. I was like, oh, well, if he boiled
Speaker 2: the bos no, no, probably.
Speaker 4: Probably you shouldn't. But like, I don't know. The camper
Speaker 4: and me is like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Boiled water is usually good, right, are you a camper?
Speaker 4: I mean I was. I was raised in Oregon, so
Speaker 4: like I was forced to be.
Speaker 2: But really, yeah, you've slept in a tent. You've slept
Speaker 2: in a tent outdoors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've like gone backpacking. I've had to like carry
Speaker 4: gear and then like sleep in the gear and you know, actually,
Speaker 4: actually there's a documentary coming out about my high school
Speaker 4: because they had an infamous Mount Hood trip that all
Speaker 4: the sophomores used to go on. You go go the
Speaker 4: mounta Hood and Oregon, and there was a freak blizzard
Speaker 4: and one group. Almost everyone died except for like two
Speaker 4: kids that you know that graphic detail warning. They like
Speaker 4: built a little like snow cave, and like the people
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the pile like barely survived.
Speaker 3: And it was like this huge tragedy.
Speaker 4: And I think nineteen eighty five and I think HBO
Speaker 4: is coming out with the documentary about it soon.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 4: I got an email from like alumni fairs and being like,
Speaker 4: just a heads up, everyone, We're going to be in
Speaker 4: a documentary.
Speaker 2: And I'm nineteen eighty five. Okay, so you weren't in
Speaker 2: high school. I was in high school nineteen.
Speaker 4: No, my mom was pregnant with me. She remembers watching
Speaker 4: it on the news when she was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she goes, this is the high school
Speaker 2: for my daughter.
Speaker 3: And then she was like, we're gonna send her here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but oh but now they.
Speaker 4: Just make you go backpacking instead of climbing Mount Hood
Speaker 4: because that's.
Speaker 2: Well oh no, Well tell me when that comes out,
Speaker 2: because maybe you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, of course, y'all.
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Speaker 2: Did that episode ever come out?
Speaker 4: That episode will be coming out very soon, and I
Speaker 4: think it next like two weeks, okay.
Speaker 2: Because I figured you would alert me. But then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, did I miss it?
Speaker 3: You didn't miss it. It's coming out soon. He's a
Speaker 3: good one. I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 2: We talked about vander Pump rules and Stacy slapping Kristen
Speaker 2: and what a different what a different time to be alive?
Speaker 4: That was I was back in the hanging out in
Speaker 4: the in the back alley at sur Days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you, are you going to watch
Speaker 2: the new vander Pump Rules.
Speaker 4: I was watching the preview for it last night, and
Speaker 4: I was talking to my husband and I'm like, I like,
Speaker 4: is this even vander Pump Rules? Like I'm probably gonna
Speaker 4: look at it, but like it just looks like such
Speaker 4: a weird, cheap imitation where I kind of am of
Speaker 4: the mindset where I'm like, maybe if they change the name,
Speaker 4: I'd be more inclined.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they could call it, you know,
Speaker 2: Sir Rules or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah they yeah, yeah, because a lot, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people that felt way about the Valley like
Speaker 1: it was going to be horrible. Not I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was a little reticent, but then I love it, so,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I love I knew the Valley was going to be
Speaker 2: good because I was like, these are people we've been
Speaker 2: following for so long. It's got to be good, right, totally,
Speaker 2: But a whole new cast of people with no no
Speaker 2: La La no, anybody who's.
Speaker 4: Not Rewind Peter Sighting. You know, really, I didn't, I
Speaker 4: don't think. I saw one in the preview, and I
Speaker 4: was like, I would have liked to just see Peter, just.
Speaker 2: To know that Peter's still around whipping these young whippers
Speaker 2: snappers into shape.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is funny because I'm going to Bravo kan
Speaker 2: next week. And what was funny is two years ago,
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, Peter was just every day. People
Speaker 2: saw him every day, just stand in the lobby of Caesars,
Speaker 2: like trying.
Speaker 1: To get recognized.
Speaker 2: Oh Peter, Like not over at Bravocon where it was
Speaker 2: at the Caesars Convention Center. I'm talking like in the
Speaker 2: Caesars Hotel just you're a hotel, Yeah, just like, yeah, Peter,
Speaker 2: Peter standing here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope it went well for I hope
Speaker 3: we got a lot of photos. Yeah, yeah, seen and
Speaker 3: wanted Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because he didn't want to buy like a ticket to
Speaker 2: go over to the Dimension Hall where people would definitely
Speaker 2: recognize him.
Speaker 1: He's just would come in and out of the hotel.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And I imagine, like I don't know, I could imagine
Speaker 4: being a former employee and being like I don't want
Speaker 4: to have to pay to get into like a company event.
Speaker 2: But right, Well, I won't thank you give me a ticket. No,
Speaker 2: nobody got a ticket. I mean a few people got
Speaker 2: a ticket. I did see a couple of so a
Speaker 2: lot of people that you know, we know got tickets
Speaker 2: and got invited whatever. Not me, I'd just pay full
Speaker 2: price for two tickets, like a.
Speaker 3: Sucker, and you're a badass.
Speaker 1: Well it's I just want to go, and then I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to Yeah, and I have my ship together sooner.
Speaker 4: I would have bought tickets too.
Speaker 2: Well, we were going, and so many of the people
Speaker 2: that have been invited that I know, like Ryan Bayley
Speaker 2: or Miguel Luciano or other people, and they're unboxing their
Speaker 2: you know, Bravo box that they got.
Speaker 3: I saw Ryan Bailey's video this morning.
Speaker 2: And by the way, everybody, just quick plug. I am
Speaker 2: hosting a party with Ryan Saturday, November fifteenth at hard
Speaker 2: Rock Cafe before Amy's Caparemi event.
Speaker 1: So I'm to our event. It's free.
Speaker 2: Click the link. Just make sure you click the link
Speaker 2: so we know you're coming. Okay, that's a secondary thing.
Speaker 3: That founds very fun.
Speaker 2: Everybody opens up their things and then I saw like
Speaker 2: Bravo by Brett and some other people that like like
Speaker 2: me that like didn't get invited doing like fake unboxing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they have like an Amazon box that they wrote
Speaker 2: Bravo on what mee was in here, and it's I
Speaker 2: was like, God, should I do that to make fun
Speaker 2: of the fact that I just am like Rodney Dangerville
Speaker 2: to get no respect?
Speaker 1: Like should I?
Speaker 3: Would I do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do I have time?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I don't, But I do have enough Bravo shit in
Speaker 2: here that I could make a box, you know, and
Speaker 2: pretend like I sent my I got sent the things.
Speaker 1: That purchased merchant box.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm literally like looking behind me, where.
Speaker 4: Is my Don't you just have a Bravo letterman jacket
Speaker 4: laying around?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: And I was a little jealous of that.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 3: I mean that looked cool, Like I'll be honest, I
Speaker 3: was expensive. I was also like just.
Speaker 4: Impressed in general with like how much branding Bravo is
Speaker 4: doing this time around for Bravo con Like there's there's
Speaker 4: the Bravo Rebox collab where I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: kind of like that obasically, I kind of like the
Speaker 4: Atlanta one because it's different.
Speaker 3: Peach colors, and I was like, wait, I like, I
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I will be fascinating to see if there's a booth
Speaker 2: selling that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I beg yeah.
Speaker 2: And then like you got to say a seven back there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: here you go, you know, or you have to order
Speaker 2: and they'll send them to you.
Speaker 4: They were kind of take so cute, but yeah, I
Speaker 4: hope they have some there that would be fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll be reporting every day Bramo Con, so
Speaker 2: everybody just stay tuned. Some will be here on the
Speaker 2: Free Feet and then most will be over on the feed.
Speaker 2: But last year when Ingrid and I did was we
Speaker 2: just walked around with my phone and I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 2: here's what just happened. I met Margaret Joseph and da
Speaker 2: da dah. She told me the name of a resurgeon
Speaker 2: that did her amazing boob job and dah da da,
Speaker 2: and you know, we would just do that and then
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Ingrid would put them
Speaker 2: all together for one big mashup. So some of that
Speaker 2: we're gonna be putting over here on the Pop and
Speaker 2: Bravo Thursday episode.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be something I can't wait to hear your reporting.
Speaker 2: Now tell me, tell me, let's talk about TLC before
Speaker 2: we go into Bravo. Okay, tell me all the TLC.
Speaker 2: What's your jam, what's your fae? What are you into?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm always like, I always can't look away
Speaker 4: from Jasmine and Gino, right, And I don't know if
Speaker 4: you've seen her social media presence lately, but I've been
Speaker 4: fascinated by it. Shaved and I was saying the shaving head, which,
Speaker 4: like I I can relate to that I had a
Speaker 4: really bad lupus flair that caused severe alopucia, and instead
Speaker 4: of having my hair fallout and clumps, I just ended
Speaker 4: up buzzing it. Because turns out it's way more dramatic,
Speaker 4: at least for me, to have your hair falling out
Speaker 4: like in fistfolds than just buzzing it and looking looking
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, maybe a little sick or something.
Speaker 2: A good a good friend of mine texting me like
Speaker 2: two days ago that her sister has cancer and she's
Speaker 2: in chemo and the same she said the same thing,
Speaker 2: that the hair was coming out in clumps, and she says,
Speaker 2: so we just decided that was so upsetting, We're just
Speaker 2: gonna shave it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like so.
Speaker 4: Daring, so like I totally get the shaving head. I
Speaker 4: also just like that she's going like the trad wife
Speaker 4: route all of a sudden, and she's like she's in
Speaker 4: these like frilly dresses and she'll like be like, watch
Speaker 4: me cook soup or something from my spiritual husband, Matt,
Speaker 4: and she calls them.
Speaker 3: Her spiritual husband because she's still married to Gino.
Speaker 4: Probably yeah, I think so yeah, And I'm just like,
Speaker 4: what is this jasmine trad wife? I'm I'm fascinated by this,
Speaker 4: this image she's trying to build where she's like, I'm
Speaker 4: no longer the loose cannon from Panama. I am Matt's
Speaker 4: spiritual life making dinners for him in Florida.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be interested at the reunion to find out.
Speaker 1: What is the status with the divorce, what is the status.
Speaker 2: With her, you know, with Gino very actively trying to
Speaker 2: get her deported, like she's using vengeance overall. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't care if I if I'm married to or longer.
Speaker 2: I have to give her more money. I'm out to
Speaker 2: make sure she gets to Yeah.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm willing to risk being asked for like
Speaker 4: child support because I'm legally the father of this child
Speaker 4: in the state of Michigan. Like, I'm willing to risk that,
Speaker 4: like if I can just really fuck up her life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's he's like spark, He's like, yeah, she'll
Speaker 2: uh when she gets those papers, We'll see how jolly
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is jolly a word we used to describe Jason?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And like, also, it looks like the reunion is going
Speaker 4: to be another one where they have them all stay
Speaker 4: at a house together and they tease her telling g
Speaker 4: you know, like she's always loved him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 2: She's just trying to appeal to his masculine side to
Speaker 2: be like, please stop this bullshit, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: I think seventy five percent of what those two have
Speaker 2: done has all been a plan. I think when they
Speaker 2: I think that they got married even knowing it wasn't
Speaker 2: going to last, knowing that they can use this for
Speaker 2: clout to stay on the show, to continue to be
Speaker 2: on more shows, to be on the Single Life, to be.
Speaker 1: On Last or all these paychecks just keep it going.
Speaker 2: And you know, Jasmine can continue to be on HA
Speaker 2: and he can go on Single Life I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's more those more shows to come, so and
Speaker 2: then they could go on pillow talk. I mean so
Speaker 2: I think they decided. I think they got married knowing
Speaker 2: it wasn't going to last, and meticulously planned this out. Now,
Speaker 2: the only part of the wrinkle of that theory of
Speaker 2: mine is would he allow himself to be talked about
Speaker 2: his penis, to be talked about so poorly on television,
Speaker 2: to talk about how he wouldn't banger?
Speaker 3: Ever? I don't. I don't know if he meant for
Speaker 3: that part to happen that.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the sex stuff is
Speaker 4: what what didn't go according to plan?
Speaker 1: Whember she moved there, and she's like, I got these
Speaker 1: butt plugs. He's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: She's like they're small, medium large, try to get trying
Speaker 2: to get my buttthole bigger for you.
Speaker 3: I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Oh and the toe I remember the toe sucking, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: something that got away. I do. What do you think
Speaker 4: about Andre and Libby? Do you think they're just strategically
Speaker 4: shit stirring because they want some sort of like like
Speaker 4: you know, couples who live in Florida spin off or something.
Speaker 2: It is weird how they've tried to make these three
Speaker 2: couples like a Housewives situation.
Speaker 1: Right, It does.
Speaker 2: Seem they're leaning a little more into making it more
Speaker 2: like a Housewives than a TLC show, which I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't I like to keep my trash separate. What
Speaker 2: do I think about them now? I met them at
Speaker 2: a party, a TLC party in New York. Andre and
Speaker 2: Libby were there, Lauren and Alexi were there, Lauren still
Speaker 2: had the braces unclear, but it's very unclear. And then
Speaker 2: Brandon and Julia were there. She was not pregnant, so
Speaker 2: it's unclear. Where in the timeline was that we saw.
Speaker 2: Have no idea, you know what I mean, you can't
Speaker 2: so I don't remember them. The four of them like
Speaker 2: hanging out like best friends at that time. Were they
Speaker 2: fighting them? Were they not? Andre and Libby? I am
Speaker 2: happy to know that they have finally cut off her
Speaker 2: most of her toxic family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that they were a mess.
Speaker 2: Mess, especially that Charlie and his wife you know brother. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're only fans where you could just fully see
Speaker 2: he and his wife bang.
Speaker 3: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Oh, just full.
Speaker 2: Penis and the camera, full, spread it out, let's.
Speaker 3: Do it banging, banging.
Speaker 4: Whoa wow, Yeah, okay, new development for me.
Speaker 3: I love that mm hm.
Speaker 2: And so obviously you know he had quite a substance
Speaker 2: issue from what we could see on our.
Speaker 3: Television, right right, Yeah, for sure, it was good that.
Speaker 2: They finally dumped them, and you know, for them because
Speaker 2: they've been married for so long. Now the only show
Speaker 2: they can be on is Happily ever After unless they
Speaker 2: pretend again that they're going to move to Moldova, which
Speaker 2: they're never going to.
Speaker 3: Do, which yeah, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: We just dropped, We have completely dropped that storyline about
Speaker 2: losing all their money, right.
Speaker 3: I was like, we're just not going to talk about
Speaker 3: the house that looked like it got like blown out
Speaker 3: by a bomb.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, And I was like, why don't they
Speaker 2: buy that house? Why don't they move into that house?
Speaker 2: He already paid for it, right, just just pay a
Speaker 2: contractor coming.
Speaker 3: Here and make it like you cracks and get the
Speaker 3: rubble out.
Speaker 1: Get the rubble out.
Speaker 2: It'll be great, it'll be perfect for your children. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I think Lauren and Alexi,
Speaker 2: I think weren't in on whatever was this plot that
Speaker 2: they were doing at Lake Placid. I think that they
Speaker 2: were like, we're leaving, like obviously, you guys are trying
Speaker 2: to make us look bad, and yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: is true. I think that Alexei probably did say all
Speaker 2: that stuff to Lauren. And she does have body I
Speaker 2: thegi issues, and she did get a mommy makeover when
Speaker 2: she was she is when I tell you in person,
Speaker 2: I mean she is as big as this fan and she.
Speaker 4: Like her body pre mommy makeover would be like a
Speaker 4: goal body for me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, she's a tiny, tiny person, like smaller
Speaker 2: than Julia, and Julia is also.
Speaker 1: A tiny person like yeah, she's tiny.
Speaker 3: Short, like a little tiny peanut.
Speaker 2: Wi little wisp of a thing. And also interesting, Brandon
Speaker 2: is shorter than Julia.
Speaker 4: I was asking. I was actually asking my husband the
Speaker 4: other day. I was like, come in here, is he
Speaker 4: taller than her or not? Because I couldn't tell in
Speaker 4: their you know, and their like title card pictures where
Speaker 4: they are like posing, and I'm thank you for confirming,
Speaker 4: yeah that it matters that much my husbands shorter than me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a little villa.
Speaker 2: But but now that we know that they've had all
Speaker 2: this strife on the show, I keep trying to think back, like,
Speaker 2: were they the four of.
Speaker 1: Them hanging out a lot?
Speaker 2: No, they really weren't, right, But don't you think Yara
Speaker 2: is the funniest, one of the funniest.
Speaker 3: I love Yara. Yara is so great. My husband and
Speaker 3: I sometimes just walk around the house being like Jovie.
Speaker 3: She's just always Jovi.
Speaker 1: Why the Mother Nature did not bless you? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: She's just.
Speaker 4: I think she's so funny, Like I would I would
Speaker 4: see her do stand up if she if she wanted to.
Speaker 2: She's so funny. And this week was she was saying
Speaker 2: about s'mores. She was calling him smorphs and.
Speaker 1: She's like, what is like this that show with the
Speaker 1: blue people? Yeah, do you have that here? The smorphs?
Speaker 2: And he's like, that's smurfs and it's different than smores,
Speaker 2: which is something you eat.
Speaker 1: And she's like whatever. But I like this sweek where
Speaker 1: she asked Andre if he was sniffing glue.
Speaker 4: That was good, Oh yes, yeah, And I like that
Speaker 4: She's she's like one of the only people not like
Speaker 4: afraid of him.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. This is the kind of man
Speaker 2: she's used to.
Speaker 4: She's from Ukraine, right, like she knows how to deal
Speaker 4: with the Slavic, like macho dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't like that.
Speaker 2: When Elizabeth walked off, she said bye bitch to to
Speaker 2: Yara in another language Russian maybe yeah, and Yara goes, oh,
Speaker 2: she said bye bitch to me, but not in like
Speaker 2: the fun bitch way and the bad way, the.
Speaker 3: Bad bitch, bye bitch, see you bitch.
Speaker 1: No, it was like fuck you bitch.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is why they're trying to
Speaker 2: make it like housewives, and I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Aga is better than we thought. Generally, HGA
Speaker 2: is the one that we dread the most.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's usually one of the like slower and
Speaker 4: darker ones, but this one is.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty good.
Speaker 2: And maybe it is because they put all the what
Speaker 2: we call the floridiots together. Yeah, you know, maybe so,
Speaker 2: but you know, in this opportunity Brandon and Julia went
Speaker 2: to Florida to get married.
Speaker 1: They didn't even show them there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darcy, Georgie, Stacy Florida and they're all on Florida.
Speaker 2: They haven't shown them. They could make an entire show.
Speaker 3: A lot they film a lot in Florida. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hm interesting. Now are you watching the other way?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I am.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on Patilla and Dylan Patier as we call her Patier.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm worried. I'm a little worried.
Speaker 1: I'm worried.
Speaker 4: I just I don't like her so far away and
Speaker 4: with like no one that seems to see things her way.
Speaker 4: Like I just I worry about an isolated woman, you know.
Speaker 2: I worry about a man that is counting his calories
Speaker 2: in macros six times a day and expects you to
Speaker 2: do the same.
Speaker 1: And she's like, cook that for him, and yeah she's
Speaker 1: like no. And he did say he eats kangaroo and
Speaker 1: that upset me a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it is pretty common there, But is it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, No, I mean not really. I have
Speaker 4: friends from Australia who don't eat kangaroo and are like no.
Speaker 4: But I mean I know some of them have referred
Speaker 4: to as like roadkill, like eating roadkill because they're sort
Speaker 4: of like these giant, very aggressive vermin.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that's crazy. Maybe they could be
Speaker 2: like it's weird. They think if we eat like venison
Speaker 2: from Deer, I guess, but.
Speaker 1: That was upsetting. He's upsetting all around. He's setting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's so regimented in like a scary, controlling
Speaker 4: way and like too tight with his mom a little bit.
Speaker 3: He is hot, though, so it's like, yeah.
Speaker 4: He's he's a banging stripper's contractor yeah, he's literally the
Speaker 4: fantasy of like, oh, we fixed my sink and also
Speaker 4: like take off your shirt?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so the plumbers that come to this house, no.
Speaker 3: Ye, like never never, never happening here.
Speaker 1: Do you get into Seeking Sister Wife.
Speaker 4: I haven't done it. I'm a little afraid of it,
Speaker 4: and I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you that you're really missing out.
Speaker 3: No, I really miss it. Try it.
Speaker 4: I've been watching like recaps of it on TikTok, being
Speaker 4: like I probably should watch the real thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Seeking Sister Wife is great, but you gotta
Speaker 2: go back, just start look and figure out whatever the
Speaker 2: first season was.
Speaker 1: The Merryfields appeared, and.
Speaker 2: That does Garrick and Danielle, and that's what I need
Speaker 2: to see because they are on their third try at
Speaker 2: a Brazilian wife.
Speaker 1: Oh great this this one.
Speaker 2: They've gotten all the way to the States and she
Speaker 2: is on a ninety day visa.
Speaker 1: So crossover.
Speaker 3: So there is also yeah.
Speaker 1: There's again missed opportunity. Matt Sharp.
Speaker 2: Okay, seeking sister wife and were you? Were you into
Speaker 2: plath Bill, which I considered to be the best.
Speaker 1: Show that's television.
Speaker 3: Not into plath Bill either?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me tell you something good news for you. Yes,
Speaker 2: starting November nineteenth, in a couple of weeks, Keisha and I, my.
Speaker 1: Co host, are starting a rewatch.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Now, I've watched every episode. I'm a scholar. I know everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know everything. I'm friendly with Olivia, who's our hero.
Speaker 3: Right right, I would saying I know we love her,
Speaker 3: that you love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're Keisha's never watched one day. One minute,
Speaker 2: She's like, who are all these blonde white people. I
Speaker 2: was like, it'll take you several seasons to figure out
Speaker 2: who's who. But we're gonna start a rewatch over on
Speaker 2: a pink Shade Prime at ten dollars level. You guys,
Speaker 2: get on it because people are like, Kisha's never watched it,
Speaker 2: and that's what's gonna be funny.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta I gotta get in on that.
Speaker 1: I gotta listen, you gotta get in, you gotta get in.
Speaker 4: I'm always just a little afraid of shows that like
Speaker 4: possibly glorify, glorify religious extremism, so I've always like steered
Speaker 4: clear of it. But I feel like I love when
Speaker 4: they become disillusioned, Like that's what happens like Sister Wives
Speaker 4: and what I hear happens in Plattvills.
Speaker 3: So yes, then I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2: Yes, And as you're watching it and the kids are
Speaker 2: young and they're like and you see like a fresh
Speaker 2: faced Micah Plath who later gets into a drunken coke
Speaker 2: field fistfight at a sister's wedding, You're like, Wow, how
Speaker 2: far he's come. Look at him, fash face to sell.
Speaker 3: So interesting and he's so hot.
Speaker 2: And he goes to La and like becomes a model,
Speaker 2: like I've seen him in my JA Crew catalog.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, okay, and this is super interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeahah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So you've got you've got quite a journey, and then
Speaker 2: you've got Olivia the journey of her, which is endlessly fascinated.
Speaker 1: Right, So I hope I've talked you into it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm very sold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, good, Well let's talk about some of
Speaker 2: our Bravo people. Salt Lake City continues their is from
Speaker 2: Hell Now.
Speaker 3: Is incredible.
Speaker 2: How are you with Blow Deck? Because I dip in
Speaker 2: and out a blow Deck.
Speaker 4: I watched Below Deck, and I was a little confused
Speaker 4: because this is like a crew in a location where
Speaker 4: I'm like, they're not down under, but it's the down
Speaker 4: Under captain and it's the sailing yacht chief stew and
Speaker 4: it's Chef Ben from the like from like the O
Speaker 4: G Yeah, and so but I from what I've gathered,
Speaker 4: this is the new regular below Deck crew possibly okay,
Speaker 4: and and we'll be getting their version of it when
Speaker 4: when that show airs in a couple months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like coming soon. I'm like, i'd like to
Speaker 2: air directly after this.
Speaker 4: I was I kind of thought they were going to
Speaker 4: go to the med and be on like Sandy's Boat
Speaker 4: went before I understood what was happening, because that's the
Speaker 4: one that's like airing right now, right, But no, it's
Speaker 4: a different So that was a little confusing.
Speaker 3: But once I got over that, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is great. It's so fun.
Speaker 4: It's really fun watching like two crews work, like to
Speaker 4: two television crews or casts work together and like both
Speaker 4: acknowledge each other as peers, but also part of that
Speaker 4: cast is in a service.
Speaker 3: Role, so it's like brilliant. I really like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be interested, Like if Heather Gay sees like
Speaker 2: whoever was hanging up her clothes at Bravocon in my
Speaker 2: equal role as a Bravo leve right.
Speaker 4: Right, or even just like they're fighting and they're like bickering,
Speaker 4: and then Lisa's like, rite, Daisy, back me up, and
Speaker 4: it's like she's asking Daisy back her up while she's
Speaker 4: like serving her a drink, and I feel like she's
Speaker 4: talking to her the way she might talk to her
Speaker 4: like Bravocon or something, but also being like fill my drink.
Speaker 1: I love that there are layers, there are layers that well.
Speaker 1: I I am.
Speaker 2: So happy, especially this last week, this past episode we
Speaker 2: just saw on Tuesday night. I'm so happy that Mary
Speaker 2: is really getting in there. She's really getting in there,
Speaker 2: she's really participating. I'm really loving it because she's participating
Speaker 2: more than she's ever participated.
Speaker 4: She's like inserting herself in ways that she would always
Speaker 4: just sort of steer clear or like go sit sprinter
Speaker 4: van when stuff was going down.
Speaker 3: I loved when she told Meredith she was boring.
Speaker 2: She was like, you're boring if you have something to say,
Speaker 2: and say it, but I haven't heard anything that's interesting.
Speaker 4: And it's like, oh that that cuts a little deep
Speaker 4: because they used to be pretty tight.
Speaker 3: They used to be the ones hanging out together.
Speaker 4: For her to be like, I've decided you're boring and
Speaker 4: you don't offer much, and I was like, I'm I
Speaker 4: was impressed.
Speaker 3: And then of course Meredith has like great responses, which.
Speaker 4: Is like I do very interesting things, like I just
Speaker 4: love I love a pissed off Meredith.
Speaker 2: I liked the scene of Lisa and Meredith in their
Speaker 2: bed with like the camera in the room filming and
Speaker 2: she's like you you didn't back me up. And they
Speaker 2: were saying I started the rumors and anything, and Meredith
Speaker 2: is like obviously like hungover or pilled out whatever, laying
Speaker 2: there going, oh my god, like what else do you
Speaker 2: want me to say?
Speaker 4: Go?
Speaker 3: I I didn't I didn't pile on. That's more than
Speaker 3: anyone else did.
Speaker 2: Like I just let it happen and just didn't agree
Speaker 2: or disagree what do you want from me? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: those two, well, I'm fascinated about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I loved the zombie party. I thought that was fun.
Speaker 4: Like nothing I love more than fighting in costume and
Speaker 4: and just fighting with a knife through your head.
Speaker 3: Totally ridiculous. I love it. I loved the corpse face,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And what about everybody just hates Brittany is like, why
Speaker 1: is she there? Everybody?
Speaker 3: I feel bad for her and love her.
Speaker 4: I love that that throughout this time she has yet
Speaker 4: to be able to like read the room properly. I
Speaker 4: was like, I love I love someone who just doesn't
Speaker 4: learn as they go along.
Speaker 3: It's so funny to watch.
Speaker 2: And it was funny when they were trying to blame her.
Speaker 2: They were like, well, we saw Captain Jason coming out
Speaker 2: of your room where you like, And Bram's like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to be in our room because you're hooking
Speaker 2: up with crew members.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, they are what they are, so
Speaker 4: they're just so willing to pick on her about anything
Speaker 4: she does. I definitely feel bad for her, but she
Speaker 4: seems to be serving some sort of communal like purpose
Speaker 4: to be the person everyone shits.
Speaker 1: On, and she doesn't seem to mind it that much.
Speaker 3: Any attention is good attention to Brittany, who was it was?
Speaker 2: It called her daddy that asked Andy who was the
Speaker 2: thirstiest ra celebrity and he said Britney bathing well.
Speaker 4: And didn't They did like a Vanity Fair cover where
Speaker 4: they had the housewives do the a recreation of the.
Speaker 1: Oh Desert House Housewives.
Speaker 4: Brittany wasn't invited and they were like all in bathing suits.
Speaker 4: But then she showed up to a Vanity Fair interview
Speaker 4: in a bathing suit to be.
Speaker 2: Like, let's don't give it vanity verir I believe those people?
Speaker 3: Oh it was people.
Speaker 4: I was like, is it people are Entertainment Weekly. I'm
Speaker 4: I'm I'm mixing it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Vanity Fair is it's not Vanity.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of like a the young Hollywood Vanity Fair cover.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes that's right.
Speaker 2: And she then she came to the interview in a
Speaker 2: bathing suit because she was like, you guys didn't ask
Speaker 2: me to be on the cover, but here I am
Speaker 2: in case you need to you can.
Speaker 1: Fill me in.
Speaker 2: You did see in that in that picture that uh
Speaker 2: Mary is just in a full uh, business casual dress.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, because Mary is gonna do whatever the fuck
Speaker 4: she wants.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not well, I can understand not wanting
Speaker 2: to put on a bathing suit.
Speaker 1: But put on like a caftan or.
Speaker 4: Something, right, right, maybe it looks like a like a
Speaker 4: cover up vibe. But no, she's just gonna wear what
Speaker 4: she came in, whatever she decided was.
Speaker 2: I'm on my way to church and this is what
Speaker 2: I'm wearing.
Speaker 3: Yep. Mary, Mary is her own woman.
Speaker 4: Do you think her church is going to come back? I,
Speaker 4: I mean, of me likes that. We just kind of
Speaker 4: don't deal with it because, yeah, I don't like thinking
Speaker 4: about it because like I really I really enjoy Mary,
Speaker 4: and I feel like she's sort of become like the
Speaker 4: voice of the audience, and it's like I don't want
Speaker 4: to think about that. Also, she has a church that
Speaker 4: like is rumored to have its own like banking like
Speaker 4: loan programs, so you can like take out loans to
Speaker 4: tie to the church.
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I do think people are being taken
Speaker 3: advantage of.
Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a system she was sort
Speaker 4: of forced into taking over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like perpetuating it isn't good, and.
Speaker 4: Like I sort of sadly enjoy that we aren't focusing
Speaker 4: on it a done so I can enjoy Mary, but
Speaker 4: like that is always at the back of my mind
Speaker 4: where I'm like, I do wonder if there's some religious
Speaker 4: abuse happening in the church.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've seen quite a bit of evidence
Speaker 2: of it. But me too, I just like, I just
Speaker 2: want to be blissfully right.
Speaker 4: I know that's bad, Like the social justice worrying me
Speaker 4: is like what the fuck? But also I'm like, but
Speaker 4: Mary's really funny, and like, really I like her connection
Speaker 4: with Angie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, And I'm like, is it a
Speaker 2: real friendship? Do they talk when the cameras aren't going God?
Speaker 3: Oh? So yeah, I know, I hope so.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, let's talk about Potomac. Okay, So, even though
Speaker 2: Potomac is filmed here where I live, and you know,
Speaker 2: I see these ladies, sometimes it's just like my least
Speaker 2: favorite show. And I don't know why. I don't know
Speaker 2: if because they change cast too much, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I watched it this recent one and I'm going, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: but I'm confused, Like British Lady but like, why are
Speaker 2: they all mad at this other woman angel.
Speaker 3: Angel for face tuning.
Speaker 2: They're mad at her because she put up like a
Speaker 2: thinner picture of herself before she had kids, like hoopo,
Speaker 2: everybody does the back picture.
Speaker 3: She looked bang in.
Speaker 1: Okay, but why do you have to call her like
Speaker 1: a catfish?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: And then she's crying because I heard her feelings. And
Speaker 2: then she talks about her richer husband does all the
Speaker 2: time and he used to play in the.
Speaker 1: NFL and ten year starter, well so you probably they
Speaker 1: probably do have a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Right right, It's very like it's very much sort of
Speaker 4: like we're getting into some like wags competition, which I
Speaker 4: find interesting. But I do need like more explainers just
Speaker 4: because I don't know enough sports ship where I'm like,
Speaker 4: I think starting is good.
Speaker 3: It sounds good. I did have to check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, starting is important, and if you're starting, you know,
Speaker 2: for ten years in a row on a team, that's great.
Speaker 2: Now does he have snee tea? You know we'll find out, right, yeh,
Speaker 2: that's not great. But yeah, just now I'm kind of
Speaker 2: really watching it for the Wendy of it all. Because
Speaker 2: of her latest situation.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I feel like we're just watching
Speaker 4: it to see like cracks and Wendy, or to see
Speaker 4: how how like audacious she can be, or you know,
Speaker 4: just like how outrageous she can be, where we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're living a lie a little bit right now.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, And I don't know if you
Speaker 2: heard this, and it came across like my podcast feed
Speaker 2: is Carlos King, who I love his podcast, and he had.
Speaker 1: Vicky on to talk about the insurance fraud.
Speaker 3: Oh right, genius makes sense. God, he's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that smart? Isn't that smart? Of course, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't know.
Speaker 2: Vicky, he had never met her because he never dealt
Speaker 2: with her as a producer, right, So he was like
Speaker 2: really excited and he had her on to talk about
Speaker 2: Wendy's insurance fraud. And she's just like, no, it's really bad,
Speaker 2: Jilly bad. She's going down. She's gone down.
Speaker 1: It's terrible.
Speaker 2: He can't do that, she explained about it. You can't
Speaker 2: file the same claim with three different insurance companies, which
Speaker 2: is another thing. In addition to reporting things stolen that
Speaker 2: were not stolen and reporting a crime that didn't happen,
Speaker 2: and all that they filed with three different insurance companies,
Speaker 2: and Vicky's like, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You gotta because you're gonna get puts one three, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they're also like those three companies will talk to
Speaker 2: each other and maybe that's how.
Speaker 3: They got caught place boof it's bad.
Speaker 2: But she said, Vicky said, if she was like looking
Speaker 2: at that claim and she saw the eighteen items that
Speaker 2: were listed, and it was like a diamond ring or
Speaker 2: a diamond bracelet, or a Cardier watch, and then a
Speaker 2: Louis of a time bag and then like a Christian gue.
Speaker 1: Or a wallet.
Speaker 2: She goes, when people list things out like that detailed,
Speaker 2: it's a red flag. And she said, and anything over
Speaker 2: I think she said anything over eight items would be a.
Speaker 1: Red flag for her.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2: She goes and they had like eighteen and then they're
Speaker 2: on like fourteen felony charges. So I don't know if
Speaker 2: the other four were like the items were below a
Speaker 2: certain amount. Yeah, But her husband, Sidney those emails saying.
Speaker 5: Hey, let's like up up the Yeah, go look at
Speaker 5: your closet. Yeah, let's let's get it to the max.
Speaker 5: Let's get it to as like it's just so bad
Speaker 5: and he's a lawyer and they thought just.
Speaker 3: No one would look into it.
Speaker 4: It's like you're already under a microscope on TV, yes,
Speaker 4: Like why put yourself under more scrutiny for fraud?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we say it every season
Speaker 2: of some show, like, right, if you know you're going
Speaker 2: to be lying and cheating, don't go on reality television, right.
Speaker 4: I just the Hubris never ends, and it's just it's
Speaker 4: so interesting to watch, like just watching the season knowing
Speaker 4: what we know, Like.
Speaker 2: I know, so you're just like, let's fast forward so
Speaker 2: we can get to that black screen of death that
Speaker 2: will say after filming Wendy and her husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, because I'll show that yeah next
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, it does sort of feel like like the kids
Speaker 4: are running the show all of a sudden with maybe
Speaker 4: it's because Karen's gone, yeah right, Like it just feels
Speaker 4: chaotic and Giselle's trying to lead the show, but she
Speaker 4: just likes to sort of pick on someone once in
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's so.
Speaker 4: And you know, I kind of love Stacy even though
Speaker 4: they all made her.
Speaker 1: Stacy is the Brittany.
Speaker 3: She's yeah, I was gonna.
Speaker 4: Say I love her the same way I love Britney,
Speaker 4: where I'm like, this girl cannot say the right thing.
Speaker 3: Sheez. Do you think she was acting a little shady?
Speaker 2: Do you think she and her husband really were in
Speaker 2: the process of getting a divorce or do you think
Speaker 2: he said I'm not going to be on the.
Speaker 1: Show whatever I do.
Speaker 2: And she goes, well, I'll just have a fake boyfriend,
Speaker 2: but you'll never see me touch him or kiss him
Speaker 2: or anything.
Speaker 1: And her husband said, Okay.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
Speaker 4: But then also apparently TMZ said they like found that
Speaker 4: the divorce did go through. I'm pretty sure I saw
Speaker 4: that on TMC. So it's like it does seem like
Speaker 4: maybe they did get divorced and got back together.
Speaker 3: I'm but I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Her husband is the heir to what like the Fiat fortune?
Speaker 3: Whoa really?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Stacy from looking up rhop husband husband.
Speaker 2: Okay, TMO Rouche is his name. I'm looking him up now,
Speaker 2: and I'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you what he does. The m O r U
Speaker 1: s C h AUDI.
Speaker 3: Oh oh holy shit.
Speaker 2: He's senior VP for sales operations of Audi of America,
Speaker 2: and I believe he comes from that Audi family.
Speaker 3: From like, yeah, well he's.
Speaker 2: A German native and uh yeah that you know, it
Speaker 2: says he's worth you know, the bazillion trillion billion dollars,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. You know, he has a base salary
Speaker 2: of two hundred k plus one hundred and eight bonus
Speaker 2: plus you know, he earns up to seven hundred thousand annually.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: He's from Germany and his people are Audi, So he's rich.
Speaker 2: So why did they get divorced in the first place?
Speaker 2: Why did they decide to get back together after she
Speaker 2: had the fake boyfriend.
Speaker 3: It's very weird.
Speaker 4: It's very suspicious, and I like that she just won't
Speaker 4: explain it, and she doesn't do it well either, And
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm here for this bad deflection.
Speaker 1: Apparently she looks perpetually surprised to be there. You know,
Speaker 1: they'll say Stacy, she's like.
Speaker 4: Well stiff and like like, I'm just just I don't
Speaker 4: know why I find her so like endearing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm very surprised that she that they invited
Speaker 2: to wrack, but maybe they're they're like talking about her
Speaker 2: bad breath and all that.
Speaker 1: She's like, what that was so mean?
Speaker 3: And they put out like mids.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, now I'm worried about
Speaker 2: my bad breath.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if he's been a speaking of punching bags,
Speaker 2: let's go over to the o.
Speaker 3: C Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: We have this episode where Heather spreads her dad's ashes
Speaker 2: in Amsterdam, and that was interesting that they got to
Speaker 2: go to the house and stuff. It's interesting too that
Speaker 2: her dad I passed away and now she's just fully like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he wasn't a good dad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't sold sold to us
Speaker 4: like that initially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now he's gone. So I was like,
Speaker 1: well whatever.
Speaker 2: And it was interesting that she's like facetimes her mom
Speaker 2: to be like, God, I'm in this house that you
Speaker 2: lived in.
Speaker 1: She's of course she's not answering. Of course she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Answer, right.
Speaker 2: I liked that on this episode Heather showed Heather just
Speaker 2: really likes to do drugs, is what we're finding out.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: Heather's like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like she's like handing out shrooms to everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that was hilarious when they were in that place
Speaker 2: and she and I was like, do you guys hear
Speaker 2: the theme music?
Speaker 1: Theme music and yeah, no, I loved that. I loved it.
Speaker 2: I think listen, Shannon, her wacky stuff does get old,
Speaker 2: you know, I was.
Speaker 3: She definitely plays it up.
Speaker 4: It's also like not the most annoying thing on our
Speaker 4: screens during this show.
Speaker 2: So right now, the Gretchen situation, Okay, Now, I feel
Speaker 2: like any of us that follow Bravo have we've known
Speaker 2: this is coming.
Speaker 4: We've just been waiting, right, Yeah, That's why I was
Speaker 4: listening to Watcho Crappens, and I feel like they have
Speaker 4: the same opinion as me, where it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we've known about this for years, like, yeah, this isn't
Speaker 4: a surprise. I sort of assumed we were all just
Speaker 4: gonna overlook it or pretend we didn't care.
Speaker 3: Once she got recast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of the her liking
Speaker 2: these things because I haven't somebody I heard somebody on
Speaker 2: a podcast give a theory. You know, when you come
Speaker 2: across something on your Instagram and it's.
Speaker 1: A picture, but it's a carousel, right, You just.
Speaker 2: Like the first picture and then you keep going, well,
Speaker 2: the fifth picture could be something terrible that you didn't see,
Speaker 2: or it could be then with the political figure that
Speaker 2: you don't agree with something. So that's one theory.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 1: Her reaction was so wild that she was just like
Speaker 1: so it makes me almost.
Speaker 2: Believe her because her reaction was so like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. I've never seen this before,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to believe, because I do
Speaker 2: think that where I heard this before this aired months ago,
Speaker 2: was that I do know Tamar told a friend of
Speaker 2: mine and oh, told a friend of mine, Hey, this
Speaker 2: is coming, this is happening.
Speaker 4: I just I just saw like in the blogs or whatever, yeah,
Speaker 4: two or whatever it was like or twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: It was like Gretchen liked a bunch of these posts, right,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I'm not shocked.
Speaker 1: No, we're not shocked about that.
Speaker 2: But what is shocking is that we all knew that
Speaker 2: this happened at their last dinner or whatever. We all
Speaker 2: knew that it happened, and then what they did was
Speaker 2: they tried to trick us while putting up the face cards.
Speaker 2: Halfway through the episode, they were like, we know it's coming,
Speaker 2: and then it did. And then I do like how
Speaker 2: sometimes they pick up cameras you know later and be like,
Speaker 2: have them all sitting on the couch listening to this.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at the message I got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to the blogger saying, the whole time you
Speaker 2: guys were filming, I knew X y Z and I
Speaker 2: do think a lot of that comes from camera.
Speaker 3: I do for sure.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's.
Speaker 2: So hard for me to be like, Gretchen really liked
Speaker 2: all this, you know, anti gay stuff.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me. Listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Gretchen's beliefs are. I would believe
Speaker 2: that she liked it. Okay, that's what I'm saying. She
Speaker 2: does appear to maybe be that girl, right, But is
Speaker 2: she stupid enough? Because she's on social media so much
Speaker 2: it makes most of her money off social media. Is
Speaker 2: she stupid enough to like all that stuff knowing anybody
Speaker 2: can see what you like. If she's trying to keep
Speaker 2: it neutral, to sell her cupcakes or whatever she's trying to.
Speaker 1: Sell in her head, I.
Speaker 3: Think she is stupid enough.
Speaker 4: I have a more sinister view where I'm like, I
Speaker 4: think she's stupid enough. I think she wasn't thinking about
Speaker 4: getting back on the show or anything.
Speaker 3: I think, and I think.
Speaker 4: I think because I was like this happened to like
Speaker 4: two years before she got rehired, So it's like, I
Speaker 4: think she was just doing her like maga thing being
Speaker 4: like and I think, I mean, I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people, especially at that time, were very much caught
Speaker 4: up in a fervor of like, we care about the children,
Speaker 4: and so I think, like, I mean again, I have
Speaker 4: a more sinister view of Gretchen where I'm like, if
Speaker 4: you listen to the words she chooses, she is she
Speaker 4: very carefully like does not ever mention trans people, only
Speaker 4: references the gay community, and like mentioned she had a
Speaker 4: drag queen come to a brunch where I'm like, which
Speaker 4: was two thousand nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, she's.
Speaker 4: Not saying she doesn't think trans people are dangerous to children,
Speaker 4: like this thing said, and she's not like she's just saying, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I want and think that I would believe
Speaker 4: she was on a on a little like I I
Speaker 4: care about the children liking spree and didn't really think
Speaker 4: anything of it and thinks of it.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 4: Have a feeling that sort of rhetoric is often very
Speaker 4: much framed as caring about children, not like spreading hate, right,
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, and so I I think she just
Speaker 4: didn't really think about it until it came back up
Speaker 4: and was like, oh shit, A lot of people consider
Speaker 4: this hateful and not just like pro kids.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm looking at it differently. I can be
Speaker 2: I can be flipped so easily I'm looking at I
Speaker 2: guess I'm looking at it from the termera angle of
Speaker 2: If what Gretchen says is true is that she had
Speaker 2: a forensic social media person go through and figure out
Speaker 2: that Tamra created all this havoc.
Speaker 4: Camera shots two years before you get rehired, Tamra's like
Speaker 4: putting her energy into like faking screenshots, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like, I think it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: what happens, because if Gretchen's got this proof that this
Speaker 2: none of this came from her, all of this was faked,
Speaker 2: went into her account, so she didn't like any of
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 1: All of this was faked and Tamra faked at the
Speaker 1: dates and.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. If all that is true, that'll be
Speaker 2: super interesting.
Speaker 3: Good like that.
Speaker 4: But that also, I mean, unless I'm wrong, like that
Speaker 4: would imply Tama's playing a long game, and it's like,
Speaker 4: I just hate Gretchen so much that randomly, years after
Speaker 4: she's been off the show and a couple of years
Speaker 4: before she's going to come back on, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: like make up random screenshots. No.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe once she found out Gretchen was
Speaker 2: coming on the show.
Speaker 4: Oh you think she like retroactively did it. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: But I feel like I first saw like a blog
Speaker 4: post about this, like when they first were liked in
Speaker 4: like twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: That's that.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I'm making it up, but it's like
Speaker 4: I feel like I've known about this for a long time.
Speaker 2: Tamer could have told when I put air quote a blogger,
Speaker 2: which is just an Instagram person, right, Tamer can have
Speaker 2: told that person in twenty twenty three and then just
Speaker 2: sort of like when she got rehired, just like nobody
Speaker 2: remember this show. Well, let me hang on to it, right, Well.
Speaker 4: I turned into a conspiracy theorist where I think Slade
Speaker 4: and Gretchen have productions here and have been promised like
Speaker 4: a rehabbed image and that like people were gonna be
Speaker 4: on their side.
Speaker 3: Like I'm making.
Speaker 4: It up, obviously, but it's sort of the vibe I'm
Speaker 4: getting where it's like we're not going to talk about
Speaker 4: naked wasted anymore. That's like off the table, and instead
Speaker 4: we're gonna make Gretchen look really good and and you know,
Speaker 4: anything negative that comes up, like we'll toss it in
Speaker 4: at the last episode and then say like it was fake.
Speaker 2: I will say, but I do believe that at that
Speaker 2: dinner with Katie and them. I do believe Gretchen got
Speaker 2: carried away with her own story and said, God, you guys,
Speaker 2: I was so sick after that I had to go
Speaker 2: to the hospital. I do believe she said that. And
Speaker 2: why she couldn't just have the time go, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had six drinks. If I said that, I was
Speaker 2: just exaggerating. I didn't actually go to the hospital, but
Speaker 2: I felt sick enough.
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't. I was sick enough that, like some
Speaker 3: people would have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she shouldn't go. I
Speaker 2: don't remember saying that. And maybe I just like got
Speaker 2: carried away with my own story and exaggerated.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the words of my dad, it'll you'll say something,
Speaker 2: I go, Dad, that's not how it happened.
Speaker 1: To'll go, Well, it makes a better story, right, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I do.
Speaker 2: Think at that dinner she did all that, and I
Speaker 2: do listen, I'm not like a giant fan of Katie,
Speaker 2: because I think Katie also was kind of trying to
Speaker 2: play the blogger game. Oh yeah, sure, and get people
Speaker 2: in the OSID to be your friend and then would
Speaker 2: drop them and clout chasing this one's bigger than this
Speaker 2: one and all that. But I do think, uh, Katie
Speaker 2: probably secured herself with another spot on the show.
Speaker 3: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: And you see when we see the preview for the reunion,
Speaker 2: we see Jin and Katie talking about you're trying to basically,
Speaker 2: you're trying to take my money by getting me kicked
Speaker 2: off the show, right yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanted to make sure I didn't get a paycheck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't get a paycheck.
Speaker 2: It's funny too, because you know that next time, if
Speaker 2: they're both on the next season, it'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: when we were in New York, you said, you know,
Speaker 2: and we were in New York.
Speaker 1: When we were in New York, we were in New York.
Speaker 2: And then you went on a show and said, then
Speaker 2: the show is like watch what happens Live.
Speaker 3: I'm like, watch, just say you told Andy, watch what
Speaker 3: Happens Live.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess it's just sometimes it gets too
Speaker 2: meta maybe.
Speaker 3: Right, right, that's true.
Speaker 2: Well, because I don't watch the Below Deck, I will listen.
Speaker 2: I think it's great that they did this because now
Speaker 2: whatever the new Below Deck season is, I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing, right Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think Andy said I'm watching What Happens Live,
Speaker 4: like it'll probably be a three episode arc on on
Speaker 4: on Below Deck as well, so like, so funny, They're
Speaker 4: gonna milk that content and I'll probably watch it because
Speaker 4: it is really funny.
Speaker 2: I did see bron wand say that she slept on
Speaker 2: that deck chair because there was also no act room
Speaker 2: wasn't working. But I think for what I've seen on
Speaker 2: Below Deck, they won't allow you to sleep on.
Speaker 3: The deck like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, so that was fake.
Speaker 4: Maybe she went up there late or yeah, like early
Speaker 4: in the morning or something, because.
Speaker 1: That there's couches everywhere.
Speaker 3: I would say, also there's couches inside.
Speaker 2: Like do you ever see some of those boats and
Speaker 2: you think, God, I just want to get on one
Speaker 2: of those and just really see what's doing. I really
Speaker 2: want to, like, because I've seen yachts and you think Okay,
Speaker 2: that probably has like two bedrooms in it. I've never
Speaker 2: seen one that has like four bedrooms most primary. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then below they have all the bunk rooms and
Speaker 2: full kitchen. I would really just like to go on one
Speaker 2: of those and see what's going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so they're so cool.
Speaker 2: With the staff and whatnot. I know, I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: God'll never happen for me, I don't.
Speaker 4: I know, right, I was like, even at the discounted
Speaker 4: below deck rate can't afford that. The last tip they
Speaker 4: got was forty thousand dollars. I was like, I can't
Speaker 4: tip that much. I can't pay them.
Speaker 2: Heather McDonald said, she got they got, she got invited
Speaker 2: to go they and they only were going to be
Speaker 2: required to pay the tip at the end. So she
Speaker 2: was trying to find like some rich couples to go
Speaker 2: with them to like split the tip or whatever.
Speaker 1: She goes. But then you do still have to get
Speaker 1: yourself to the other country.
Speaker 4: Right, You still have to take a you know, go
Speaker 4: to the Caribbean or the med or wherever.
Speaker 2: Wherever and she goes and then spend the night, you know,
Speaker 2: to get used to the time zone before you get
Speaker 2: on the boat. And then it's only really two nights, right,
Speaker 2: and then you gotta pay. I'm like twenty thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: it's a lot. Yeah, She's like, yeah, it's not. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but I guess if you just want to be on TV,
Speaker 2: maybe it's worth it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I do think the charters are shorter than your average charter.
Speaker 3: The two nights. Yeah, so, but yeah, and it's like,
Speaker 3: get a little taste.
Speaker 2: Poor Angie. I was like, cod somebody give her an
Speaker 2: iv a zophran, Like what happening?
Speaker 3: So bad for her? That's always just the saddest.
Speaker 2: And then Brittany got up in puked dinner and dinner
Speaker 2: and it came right back to her chugging tequila.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was impressed. I was.
Speaker 4: I wasn't like worried or judging her. I was just like, shit,
Speaker 4: I could not have done that.
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, maybe stick into some water, maybe
Speaker 1: some ginger ale.
Speaker 3: And her explanation was, I want to feel better.
Speaker 2: You got Salt Lake City, I think is the best one,
Speaker 2: but Beverly Hills is coming up.
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 4: And we got teased that like Kyle may admit she's
Speaker 4: actually by which is which is always.
Speaker 2: Exciting again, just like the Gretchen b and Maga big surprise.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like Guice, we always knew.
Speaker 1: Everybody stunned.
Speaker 3: You know, he had a.
Speaker 4: Literal girlfriend on the show that she wouldn't quite call
Speaker 4: a girlfriend, but still I know.
Speaker 2: She says that's because Morgan didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well that'll be interesting too. Well,
Speaker 2: you now have to get back together when vander Pump
Speaker 2: starts back. And because like I've told you, that's vander
Speaker 2: Pump is my gateway Bravo drug and I'm.
Speaker 3: Just going to be I'm so curious what it's going
Speaker 3: to be like.
Speaker 2: If it gives the Valley and it gives us like
Speaker 2: a renewed love of sir that nasty, nasty restaurant with
Speaker 2: that disgusting bathroom cheese balls, yes, If it gives us
Speaker 2: a renewed want to make goat cheese balls in our
Speaker 2: own kitchens, then okay. But if there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: new people that I can tell are all just acting
Speaker 2: because they want to be on vander Pump rolls, then.
Speaker 4: If it's reminiscent too much of like southern hospitality, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much I can do.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one.
Speaker 4: It's just I tried, and it's very much like trying
Speaker 4: to be vander Pump, but like they're all too self
Speaker 4: aware and trying to start their own Instagram, DJ careers
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so other darms coming back.
Speaker 2: I saw that, Oh right, yeah, I saw a trailer
Speaker 2: for that. My daughter walked through the room and goes,
Speaker 2: Catherine din is still in jail. I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, bless her heart, I don't know. She Yah
Speaker 2: had some problems.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't I feel I feel bad for her.
Speaker 2: She needs Yeah, she's a she's a year long treatment center.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she needs to just get away from her
Speaker 4: environment and be helped.
Speaker 1: And yeah yeah she's to look at the rabbitel bridge
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was gonna say, I hate that she
Speaker 4: has tied to him for the rest of her life,
Speaker 4: because I know I think he was a full piece
Speaker 4: of ship, but.
Speaker 1: Full fully part of the problem of her.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tamas, All.
Speaker 2: Right, Jilla, to tell everybody all about your show and
Speaker 2: where they can find it and what's coming up next.
Speaker 4: It's hot Mesterpiece Theater where we take we take reality
Speaker 4: TV seriously like it is real art, because it is.
Speaker 3: It's just it's the same stories we're always telling.
Speaker 4: And I talked to really great guests like Mary Payne
Speaker 4: about their all time faceavorite reality TV scenes, and we
Speaker 4: break down why they're so great and compelling and why
Speaker 4: we can't get enough of it. And Mary Payne's episode
Speaker 4: about vander Pump is coming up in a week or two.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's exciting. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: I love how much she'd like record in advance.
Speaker 3: I mean, I try it comes in waves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to record a couple of in Advanced
Speaker 2: ninety episodes since I'm going to be out of town
Speaker 2: next week, and then the screeners were late, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, ugh, well that like dictates everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm running around like hair on fire. But I'm
Speaker 2: thrilled to talk to you and you guys. Also today
Speaker 2: on Thursday, there's going to be a bonus episode where
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk with Megan O'Brien who owns this
Speaker 2: company called Ring My Bell. She's gonna have a brute
Speaker 2: a booth at Bravocon. So part owners of her company
Speaker 2: are Cynthia Bailey Luanne, Meredith, Gertie, and she does all
Speaker 2: like if you go to her Instagram and stuff, it's
Speaker 2: all housewives glam and stuff that she does.
Speaker 1: And so she's gonna come on to do.
Speaker 2: A Bravo episode as well to talk about kind of
Speaker 2: what it's like to be around all those women, like
Speaker 2: doing the glam and stuff, which I'm fascinated by. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, can you give me any tips because
Speaker 2: I'd like to look twenty years younger as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, how should I be doing my
Speaker 3: ie makeup?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not this laft it on four seconds before
Speaker 2: I came on.
Speaker 3: Not in a frantic dash.
Speaker 2: That I got for like for free in a gift
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Speaker 2: find her at Hot Master Pece Theater and also at
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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
Speaker 3: Doolenta underscore g on Instagram?
Speaker 2: Okay, and uh, I'll be on in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: but I'll post about it whenever it comes out.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you,