Speaker 1: On Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: In roughly four hours from now, I will I'll be
Speaker 2: in front of my TV standing, probably with a bush
Speaker 2: light in hand, and I'll be maybe probably not at
Speaker 2: not at nine o'clock. The game will just be starting,
Speaker 2: but throughout the game I may potentially have a heart attack,
Speaker 2: because that's that's what happens whenever. You know, I watch
Speaker 2: Louisville basketball now and it's it's not good for my health,
Speaker 2: and it does kind of remind me like, man, you
Speaker 2: shouldn't be this wired up, but when you care about
Speaker 2: it's so much. And I'm talking about Louisville basketball and
Speaker 2: know a lot of you guys listening and gals listening
Speaker 2: are the same way. And then you didn't have it.
Speaker 2: You were lifeless for so long because of you know,
Speaker 2: the previous regime and how the one before that ended.
Speaker 2: Like it kind of feels nice to be alive again.
Speaker 2: But I've also kind of found myself, you know, like thinking, man,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't I shouldn't be this way. Maybe whenever it's
Speaker 2: the new norm that you're going to be in big
Speaker 2: games like tonight and it becomes more routine, I'll get
Speaker 2: a little bit more I guess conditioned for it, but man,
Speaker 2: the battle for Atlantis was a ride. The Indiana game
Speaker 2: was awesome just because you beat them so badly and
Speaker 2: you saw this team really I think, at their ceiling,
Speaker 2: and that was great. And the next day it's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a different game. You go to overtime.
Speaker 2: It's a nail biter, and everybody was probably you know,
Speaker 2: stressed and losing their mind on Thanksgiving, at least I was.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just assuming others were doing it to make
Speaker 2: myself not feel as bad about my behavior during these games.
Speaker 2: But I was at Churchill Downs with the family, and
Speaker 2: you know, my son is picking out his horse and
Speaker 2: you know, having a family day, and I had to
Speaker 2: run to the corner and just get out my phone
Speaker 2: and watch the end of the game because I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I mean I kind of blocked out almost
Speaker 2: like not knowing what was going on. Like I would
Speaker 2: hit pause on YouTube TV and then if there would
Speaker 2: be a big play where I'm like, all right, man,
Speaker 2: these are huge, this is a huge possession, I gotta
Speaker 2: hit pause because I don't know right now if my
Speaker 2: heart can handle like what's about to happen like I
Speaker 2: may have a heart attack. Let me take a deep breath,
Speaker 2: let me let me get another drink or something like that.
Speaker 2: Is the benefit of watching these games at times on
Speaker 2: your devices, your phone, your tablet or whatever. And if
Speaker 2: you have you know, and I think really any service.
Speaker 2: I would say now when it comes to how you
Speaker 2: watch live sports, you can hit pause. I find myself
Speaker 2: hitting pause because I'm just like, oh God, I can't
Speaker 2: take it. Let me take a deep breath. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's about to happen, but I know it's either
Speaker 2: going to be a really big moment that helps you win,
Speaker 2: or it's gonna be the moment you realize you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2: And I just need to be mentally prepared. And yes,
Speaker 2: I know I sound like a lunatic, but it's it's
Speaker 2: just the truth. So it was nice to feel alive again.
Speaker 2: And tonight Louisville's got another chance to get a win,
Speaker 2: and if it's close, I'm probably gonna be a madman.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 2: All Right, Coffee and Company Hour number three here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety we are fueled by Thornton's make
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Speaker 2: Nick Coffee. I hope you knew that. If not, now
Speaker 2: you do. Austin Montgomery was on the side today taking
Speaker 2: you up until six o'clock. So before I get into
Speaker 2: the to the to the tough news that we got
Speaker 2: earlier today in regards to well yesterday's case and prior today,
Speaker 2: it's Korin Johnson. So we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: sort of my view on how Louisville can try to
Speaker 2: salvage this situation, you know, best case scenario. I mean
Speaker 2: I found myself feeling in a feeling like I'm in
Speaker 2: a rare spot being the guy who you know is
Speaker 2: seeing it glass half full, being the optimist, because I
Speaker 2: was surprised and kind of irritated. I mean, los people
Speaker 2: can have their own opinion. I'm sure I've got opinions
Speaker 2: every day that you guys are irritated by or don't
Speaker 2: agree with. So I just was surprised more than anything
Speaker 2: to see so many Louisville fans acting as if the
Speaker 2: loss of Cason and korn Johnson means that like Louislle's
Speaker 2: going to be terrible this year, and nobody really said
Speaker 2: that directly, But I mean, I still think we've got
Speaker 2: some good pieces to work with to where you could
Speaker 2: find yourself in the NSAA tournament. And I think because
Speaker 2: maybe we haven't been a part of the NSTUAA tournament
Speaker 2: in so long and we don't we haven't even really
Speaker 2: needed to tune in for selection Sunday in about what
Speaker 2: four years, Maybe that has led people to forget that
Speaker 2: they put sixty eight teams in, so it's not crazy
Speaker 2: to think they could find their way to the tournament.
Speaker 2: I didn't say they were going to go to the
Speaker 2: final four without Cason Pryor and Koran Johnson. Clearly their
Speaker 2: ceiling is not as high without these guys, But I
Speaker 2: still think that there's enough here that you could end
Speaker 2: up having a good enough year to find yourself in
Speaker 2: the tournament. But I can understand why some disagree. But
Speaker 2: they're still favorites in this game, by the way, which
Speaker 2: I know that doesn't mean they're gonna win, and we
Speaker 2: shouldn't look at spreads as the sign of okay. Well,
Speaker 2: actually no, I think we do. Like I don't know
Speaker 2: about you, but sometimes I guess it, like tonight, I'm
Speaker 2: a little surprised they're favored, especially after the news about
Speaker 2: case in prior yesterday. Not as much about Korn because
Speaker 2: Korn hasn't played since the Tennessee game. Like you played
Speaker 2: your best basketball when he wasn't playing, And I don't
Speaker 2: mean you got better because he was gone, but like
Speaker 2: the good that you saw from Louisville, he wasn't a
Speaker 2: factor in because he was already hurt. So whenever you
Speaker 2: are favored in a game, I think and you lose,
Speaker 2: Like sometimes like you're not surprised at the end at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, because you were actually surprised
Speaker 2: you were favored, Like people weaponize that against their team,
Speaker 2: like how could we lose? We were favored? But then
Speaker 2: you know, whenever I don't know, I find myself at
Speaker 2: times overvaluing what I see on a sports book app
Speaker 2: as far as all right, well, that's what should happen,
Speaker 2: because you know, believe it or not, they're wrong a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not wrong enough to where it's not
Speaker 2: a very profitable business to run a sports book, but
Speaker 2: you know, at the same point in time, you know,
Speaker 2: like they clearly get it wrong. I mean, Louisille was
Speaker 2: favored against Tennessee. Think about that, and it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: So anyways, real quick though, I wanted to mention this
Speaker 2: right around five o'clock. You know, if you've got a
Speaker 2: radio show, you've got a platform. And I'm very appreciative
Speaker 2: of having this platform that I have each and every
Speaker 2: day to do this whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I have a lot of fun. So
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to use this platform here to
Speaker 2: wish my mother happy birthday. Today is my mom's birthday,
Speaker 2: So happy birthday.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Mama. Coffee.
Speaker 2: She's not a coffee she was no, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: She's she's remarried, she's she's a Donahue. But yes, my mother,
Speaker 2: Patricia Andnette Donahue, is today's her birthday. So happy birthday mom.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's listening.
Speaker 3: But wow, my mom's name is Patricia too.
Speaker 2: Nice you that. I bet she's a good mom.
Speaker 3: Now she's a great mom. And happy birthday, Patricia.
Speaker 2: You're you're tasked with being I mean, she's Patty too
Speaker 2: to a lot of people. But yeah, I did full
Speaker 2: legal there. Uh, her full legal name well government, yeah,
Speaker 2: for everybody to know her name. But happy birthday to
Speaker 2: my mother. I love you and you are you are
Speaker 2: the best. So I hope that you're having a good
Speaker 2: day and I look forward to celebrating your birthday with
Speaker 2: you tomorrow when we go to dinner. So right, happy birthday, Mom.
Speaker 3: Where were we going to dinner?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Or surprise?
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: where like I'm just going to show up because you know,
Speaker 2: it's her, she gets to pick. It's her day, and
Speaker 2: h and and and we'll we'll make it work, all right.
Speaker 2: So just a quick update here on this on this
Speaker 2: Old Miss team. We did talk with Cel Brown earlier
Speaker 2: in regards to this matchup, and if there's one word
Speaker 2: to describe and it's cliche, but it's true. If there's
Speaker 2: one word to describe Chris Beard and his style as
Speaker 2: a coach and the teams that he's had, rather it
Speaker 2: be at Texas Tech Texas briefly or where he's at
Speaker 2: now Will Miss. They're tough, They're physical, and that's the
Speaker 2: first thing you know you're going to be challenged with
Speaker 2: when you play a Chris Beard coach team, can you
Speaker 2: match their toughness? And he has won a lot of
Speaker 2: basketball games with teams that don't have the edge and talent,
Speaker 2: but they're just tough as nails. I mean, I remember
Speaker 2: one of Louisville's best teams, a team that I think
Speaker 2: still could have made a deep run had we had
Speaker 2: a tournament that year. But if you remember, they played
Speaker 2: in the I think it might have been the Jimmy
Speaker 2: V Classic or the inning of his Jimmy V Classic
Speaker 2: up in New York. And Chris Beard was still at
Speaker 2: Texas Tech at the time. And that team, I mean,
Speaker 2: they had some guys back that had made a deep run.
Speaker 2: I think they went all the way to the championship
Speaker 2: game the year before that, So I don't want to
Speaker 2: say that they didn't have any talent. But you know,
Speaker 2: Chris Beard, he wins. I mean, and obviously, let's be real,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be at Old Miss if it wasn't for
Speaker 2: what happened with him at Texas. So you're going to
Speaker 2: be challenged in a major way tonight when it comes
Speaker 2: to just the physicality that Old Miss is going to bring.
Speaker 2: And you know they've got They've got a lot of transfers,
Speaker 2: like most teams in college basketball do these days. And
Speaker 2: you know one of the guys that has really kind
Speaker 2: of settled in nicely in the two years, well, I
Speaker 2: guess a year and some change into the tenure here
Speaker 2: for Chris Beard at Old Miss is a former Saint
Speaker 2: Peter's transfer. And I don't remember this guy doing a
Speaker 2: whole lot for the Saint Peter's team that knocked off Kentucky.
Speaker 2: But if I did see this young man and I
Speaker 2: knew that he did have a role in that, I
Speaker 2: would shake his hand and tell him thank you. I
Speaker 2: don't you know, I don't want him to win tonight,
Speaker 2: but he's probably been I would say. And I don't
Speaker 2: even know how many guys are back from Ole Miss's
Speaker 2: team last year, but Jalen Murray, he's averaging fourteen and
Speaker 2: a half points a game. He's their leading scorer. He
Speaker 2: played at Saint Peter's for looks like two years and
Speaker 2: then ended up. Yeah he was a freshman. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was a freshman on the on the team that knocked
Speaker 2: off Kentucky in the tournament. And then he's been at
Speaker 2: Ole Miss the last couple of years, averaged about fourteen
Speaker 2: a game, last year and he's averaging right around that
Speaker 2: this year. So he's the guy who leads him in scoring.
Speaker 2: But they're really really balanced. Matthew Murrell another guy averaging
Speaker 2: right around fourteen points fifteen points a game, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's been there at Ole Miss for five years. I
Speaker 2: think he initially played for who was the coach that
Speaker 2: was at Middle Tennessee State that took the Old Miss
Speaker 2: job that ended up Kermit Davis. He was a Kerma
Speaker 2: Davis guy, and he's stuck around and he's been there
Speaker 2: for a while and he's been productive for every year
Speaker 2: he's been in college. Another guard that you should be
Speaker 2: familiar with, Sean Padula. He is the sharpshooter who transferred
Speaker 2: in from virgin He's averaging about thirteen points a game.
Speaker 2: Jamien Breakfield a guy who I remember was very close
Speaker 2: to committing to Luke Murray and Chris Mack when he
Speaker 2: was in high school, only to then be offered at
Speaker 2: the last minute by Duke. Ended up at Duke, didn't
Speaker 2: play a lot, transferred to I think he transferred to
Speaker 2: Ole Miss right after leaving Duke and he's been there
Speaker 2: ever since. Fifth year guy averaging about eleven points and
Speaker 2: six boards. And then drey Davis, a former Louisville cardinal
Speaker 2: who played here for a couple of years before moving
Speaker 2: on to Seaton Hall, had a really good two year
Speaker 2: stretch there at Seaton Hall, and then is finishing his
Speaker 2: last year of eligibility here at Ole Miss and he's
Speaker 2: averaging eleven points a game as well. So they've got
Speaker 2: five guys that are averaging double figures, that are very balanced.
Speaker 2: They don't shoot it that well as far as you know,
Speaker 2: as far as you know an overall team, but obviously
Speaker 2: Shampadula is a guy who is is is out there
Speaker 2: for one reason, and that's the knockdown three point shots.
Speaker 2: So you know you're gonna have to to to bring
Speaker 2: the physicality. And I feel like this is a game
Speaker 2: that you're not gonna get a lot of really good
Speaker 2: looks from three because I think Chris Beard's teams are
Speaker 2: typically pretty good at taking that away. They're gonna slow
Speaker 2: it down, They're gonna want to just play in the
Speaker 2: half court and beat you up. So Chucky Hepburn's gonna
Speaker 2: have to I mean, he's got to do this against
Speaker 2: everybody this year that you play. That is that is
Speaker 2: this caliber of an opponent. He's gonna have to initiate offense.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to score, get to the free throw line,
Speaker 2: and create for others. And you know that's a given
Speaker 2: when you play good teams. But I think this is
Speaker 2: one of those nights where you need the good shooting
Speaker 2: Louisville team. You know, late in the game they missed
Speaker 2: some threes against Indiana that made it to where that
Speaker 2: ended up being a thirty seven percent night for Louisville
Speaker 2: as far as threes, But I think you're gonna need
Speaker 2: to you know, it's gonna be one of those games
Speaker 2: where if I see them missing a lot of decent
Speaker 2: to good looks, then I'm gonna worry about. Okay, like
Speaker 2: you're gonna if you're gonna, like, if you're going to
Speaker 2: beat a team like Ole Miss, you're gonna need to
Speaker 2: make those shots. And look, that's a given, right you
Speaker 2: want to win basketball games, you gotta make shots, you
Speaker 2: gotta score points. But I feel like the battle here
Speaker 2: to night between these two teams is going to be
Speaker 2: who can more effectively control tempo and style. I don't
Speaker 2: think Chris Beard's the kind of coach that really is
Speaker 2: out there trying to have as many possessions as possible.
Speaker 2: You know what, Pat Kelsey's the opposite. He wants as
Speaker 2: many possessions as possible. He wants the game to be
Speaker 2: sped up, not because he thinks he's going to go
Speaker 2: beat you in a track meet. I think he likes
Speaker 2: his team and their ability to play in transition. But
Speaker 2: I also think they The Indiana game is the best
Speaker 2: evidence you need as to what can happen when you
Speaker 2: get a team sped up and they're out of their
Speaker 2: comfort zone. Indiana was turning it over like crazy, missing
Speaker 2: layups left and right because they just weren't comfortable. And
Speaker 2: Louisville thrives at that pace and that's when they're at
Speaker 2: their best. So it's going to be a fight to
Speaker 2: see who can get it at their pace and their style.
Speaker 2: And to be honest, Louisville was not able to do
Speaker 2: that against the two teams they played after beating Indiana,
Speaker 2: and it was nice to see against West Virginia they
Speaker 2: found some rhythm offensively in the half court. Chucky kind
Speaker 2: of took over did his thing prior obviously was a
Speaker 2: big factor in that game too, And then against Oklahoma
Speaker 2: they just kept battling, but in the half court you
Speaker 2: could tell one team was much more suited for the
Speaker 2: game to be played at that pace, and it was
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and they were able to pull it out. So look,
Speaker 2: losing Case and Pryor and losing Coran Johnson for the year,
Speaker 2: no doubt it changes how everybody views expectations for the season.
Speaker 2: I totally totally understand that. But I still think this
Speaker 2: team can make the tournament. I mean, maybe they get
Speaker 2: blown out tonight and I have to realize how foolish
Speaker 2: it was to think that. But I mean, I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you what I believe, and I don't know. I
Speaker 2: like Chucky. Hepburn is the best player on this team,
Speaker 2: and what he did and who he did it against
Speaker 2: tells me that, Like, you know, if he's eighty percent
Speaker 2: of what he was in a couple of those games
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas, really just overall experience for him in
Speaker 2: the Bahamas, I mean, i'd say that's like that's the
Speaker 2: most important thing for Louisville. And he's gonna have bad
Speaker 2: nights probably, and that'll probably not be good for Louisvill
Speaker 2: when they play good teams because there's no Corn Johnson.
Speaker 2: The rest of the season. But I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: a weird feeling. It's a weird feeling to know that
Speaker 2: I'm seeming a little bit more optimistic about this team
Speaker 2: in this season moving forward than than. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not the majority, but at least in some fans, I'm
Speaker 2: usually the guy everybody yells at says, why are you
Speaker 2: so negative? Gloom and doom? And I feel like it's
Speaker 2: some of you guys doing that this time around, and
Speaker 2: not as much meat.
Speaker 3: Just think we're there's where's three wins away from matching
Speaker 3: literally last season's total, and another seven from matching the
Speaker 3: last two years total, and we're just only in December.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And those are the kind of things that
Speaker 2: like probably needs to be set a little more than
Speaker 2: they are, not to say that, hey, we're just better
Speaker 2: than Kenny Payne. Life's gonna be grand. But no, like
Speaker 2: I I'm enjoying just being alive. That sounds that sounds all.
Speaker 2: That sounds real dramatic and like super serious for something
Speaker 2: that is not as deep as that. But like, as
Speaker 2: a fan like I, you know, Louiva could have been
Speaker 2: fully healthy against teams like this last year and I
Speaker 2: would have not got off the couch during the game
Speaker 2: with any excitement because I would just know what was
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Yeah, and you know we're not there anymore.
Speaker 2: And that's good. All right, quick break, we'll come back here.
Speaker 2: On the other side, we got to talk some college football,
Speaker 2: not only the college football playoff rankings that are going
Speaker 2: to come out tonight. Coaches are really telling on themselves
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why. But for Jeff Brohm, I
Speaker 2: think he's positioned to really clean up once again in
Speaker 2: the portal. And there's a lot of guys within the
Speaker 2: show even that have announced their leading Louisville and I
Speaker 2: wish them well. But so far, I think the trend continues.
Speaker 2: Jeff Brohm's been able fingers crossed to this point. Keep
Speaker 2: the guys you really want to keep around, and the
Speaker 2: guys that you know want to move on. You wish
Speaker 2: him well, and you go get somebody that can probably
Speaker 2: help you. That's better. All right, don't go anywhere, keep
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Speaker 2: So the only team favored tonight in the acc SEC
Speaker 2: Challenge By the way, this is just Night one. There'll
Speaker 2: be more games tomorrow, and there might even be some
Speaker 2: on Wednesday too, or I guess Thursday. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's just a two day event. Either way,
Speaker 2: tonight is Night one, and Louisville's the only team that
Speaker 2: is in fact favored in their matchup Kentucky currently according
Speaker 2: to FanDuel is. Let me refresh here again, if there's
Speaker 2: a way to filter out, Yeah, here we go. Kentucky
Speaker 2: is now favored by one and a half. That's what
Speaker 2: it was when we started the show today, but I
Speaker 2: think it was closer to three or four when it opened.
Speaker 2: So maybe Clemson ends up being a challenge for Kentucky
Speaker 2: and maybe they end up maybe they end up beating them.
Speaker 2: They are at home, and they did go to the
Speaker 2: late eight, the Elite eight last year. But I mean
Speaker 2: that this is not the same team, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think Clemson's very good. But I also I
Speaker 2: would say the reason why I feel it's much more
Speaker 2: likely that Kentucky will win and cover is or so
Speaker 2: because I think Kentucky's really good, not as much that
Speaker 2: I think Clemson stinks. But I'm also not gonna lie
Speaker 2: to you and tell you that I think Clemson's any
Speaker 2: good because I mean, I guess they don't have the
Speaker 2: type of loss I was thinking that they had. They
Speaker 2: did lose to to Boise State, which I don't think
Speaker 2: that's a great loss this year. But you know, what,
Speaker 2: do I know? I don't follow the Mountain West as
Speaker 2: close as others, But yeah, right now you've got this
Speaker 2: Clemson team with wins against a bunch of you know,
Speaker 2: the teams you typically play more often than not in
Speaker 2: November and December. But they did be Penn State, which
Speaker 2: Penn State that was their first loss of the season,
Speaker 2: so I guess that is somewhat of a not a
Speaker 2: huge win. But maybe Clemson's better than I realized, because
Speaker 2: I the more I look at the spread, the more
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking I'm wrong about Clemson being really down.
Speaker 2: But I still believe what I believe. I did watch
Speaker 2: that Boise State game and I did lose that bet,
Speaker 2: so that maybe that's why I'm just sour on this
Speaker 2: Clemson team. But Brad Wenwell has been at Clemson a
Speaker 2: long time, and he did break through last year and
Speaker 2: get to the Elite eight. But I mean, I just
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're anything close to what they
Speaker 2: were a year ago. And honestly, I think they last
Speaker 2: year were a fine team that you know, just finally
Speaker 2: broke through and won some tournament games. Again, to go
Speaker 2: back to what we talked about earlier, the tournament is
Speaker 2: really all that matters, ultimately what matters when it comes
Speaker 2: to college basketball, and that's what makes college basketball unique.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't really tell the whole story. So like
Speaker 2: Clemson last year made the Elite Eight. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2: You can't take that away from him. That is huge,
Speaker 2: that has value, But I don't think that Clemson was
Speaker 2: close to being one of the best eight teams in
Speaker 2: the country. So, you know, I just think this is
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't want to do it, but
Speaker 2: I may have to just hammer Kentucky money line because
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is insane to see them
Speaker 2: at minus one and a half. I guess not only
Speaker 2: I was gonna, I would take a minus one and
Speaker 2: a half, not money line. I mean. And by the way,
Speaker 2: real quick, before we talk football, Austin, if you are
Speaker 2: betting a team that is favored or I guess a
Speaker 2: dog by a point than I have for two points
Speaker 2: in basketball, Like, if I'm taking you to cover as
Speaker 2: a dog and it's only like two three points, I
Speaker 2: typically just take money line, and sometimes I've had some
Speaker 2: bad beats with it, but I'll accept that. Like I'll
Speaker 2: just think, like, hey, if you're right there and you
Speaker 2: end up losing by two instead of winning, like it's
Speaker 2: to me. I don't know, I just I find it
Speaker 2: more enjoyable to watch a game knowing, hey, I just
Speaker 2: need them to win, yeah, and not worry about free
Speaker 2: throws late.
Speaker 3: Now, sometimes it can burn you, but that hook always
Speaker 3: gets you, dude. Yeah, so it might as well. Might
Speaker 3: as well just go ahead and just up that value
Speaker 3: a little bit and just go ahead take the money
Speaker 3: line that way you're knowing just if you're especially if
Speaker 3: it's like you said, if it's at like one or two,
Speaker 3: if you're already kind of cheering for them to keep
Speaker 3: it that close anyways, might as well just cheer for
Speaker 3: them to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, if you are a Clemson better tonight, you've
Speaker 2: got Clemson plus one and a half, you could get
Speaker 2: that at minus one fourteen, or you could take a
Speaker 2: money line at minus one oh five. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: mean again, you may if they ended up losing by one.
Speaker 2: You would you would lose, and that would be what
Speaker 2: some a bad beat. But I think a bad beat
Speaker 2: is just like if I know going in that's something
Speaker 2: that could potentially happen, and I'm still willing to do it,
Speaker 2: then I can still claim my law. I mean, I
Speaker 2: still lost and it's still my fault. But like, I
Speaker 2: don't look at that as a bad beat. That's just,
Speaker 2: you know, a calculated decision that you make and it
Speaker 2: sometimes doesn't work out all right. So the Louisville football
Speaker 2: roster is like most rosters in the country. Next year
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a lot different, and I've tried my
Speaker 2: best to keep up with every player that has announced
Speaker 2: what they're going to be doing. The big news in
Speaker 2: the good news is the Colin Lacey's coming back, and
Speaker 2: that's huge. We talked about that earlier in the show.
Speaker 2: He is returning for his final season after deciding to
Speaker 2: opt out this year in red shirt, and it worked out.
Speaker 2: It paid off. It was a good decision for both
Speaker 2: sides here, and it still clearly bothers some people. We
Speaker 2: had some people texting in earlier mentioning that they still
Speaker 2: have a sour taste in their mouth after him deciding
Speaker 2: to kind of quit on the team. And I can't
Speaker 2: tell you that you're wrong, because that is kind of
Speaker 2: what he did. But it's just, you know, it's the
Speaker 2: new world we're in and you don't have to like it.
Speaker 2: But I think if you at least for a second,
Speaker 2: consider what this is for these young men. This is
Speaker 2: a job to them.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: This is a chance for them to take advantage of
Speaker 2: their ability. Right. The fact that you can play high
Speaker 2: level college football means you can also make money to
Speaker 2: do it, and it's money that you probably won't be
Speaker 2: able to make right out of college unless you're going
Speaker 2: to the NFL. Like Colin Lacy's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that and he may be an NFL player. I think
Speaker 2: he's really talented, so but let's just say he's a
Speaker 2: guy that doesn't fit in the NFL. Well, he'll make
Speaker 2: more money probably in one final year of playing college
Speaker 2: football than he will in his first couple of years
Speaker 2: at an entry level job out of college. I don't
Speaker 2: know what he's going to do after Kyle, I don't
Speaker 2: know what his career path would be. Again, he wants
Speaker 2: to play in the NFL and maybe he does that,
Speaker 2: but even if he's on the practice squad, I mean,
Speaker 2: think about yourself as an employeee at your job. You're
Speaker 2: gonna do everything you can to put yourself in a
Speaker 2: position that benefits you and your family, not your employer.
Speaker 2: I mean, you work for your employer, and you know
Speaker 2: you rely on them to give you a paycheck, but
Speaker 2: you also are looking out for yourself, which is why
Speaker 2: at times you'll leave your job to go to another
Speaker 2: one if it's gonna be a better job where you're
Speaker 2: gonna make more money. And it's still so different than
Speaker 2: what we're used to in college sports that people still
Speaker 2: yet people are still are still having a tough time.
Speaker 2: I think realizing that this is now a job to
Speaker 2: these guys, and they're gonna treat this job the way
Speaker 2: you treat your job. It's cool until I can go
Speaker 2: somewhere else and make more money and do what's best
Speaker 2: for me so that you don't have to like it.
Speaker 2: And if you're still bothered by it and it just
Speaker 2: feels gross, then like I get it. But this is
Speaker 2: not changing. And Colin Lacey, I'm happy that he got
Speaker 2: a lot of support from the staff, you know, and
Speaker 2: from I understand. There were some pretty tough conversations because
Speaker 2: I think Jeff understood it, but he didn't. He didn't
Speaker 2: like it, but he also was willing to adapt and
Speaker 2: willing to understand that there's nothing I can do about this.
Speaker 2: We're not going backwards. Any resistance here is gonna only
Speaker 2: results in a negative result potentially, So just realize it
Speaker 2: is what it is and figure out the best way
Speaker 2: you can succeed in this new world. So I think
Speaker 2: there are a lot of coaches that would have not
Speaker 2: taken Colin Lacey's decision the way Jeff Brohm did. And again,
Speaker 2: he wasn't happy, trust me, he wouldn't. He didn't like it
Speaker 2: at all, But he did enough to salvage this situation
Speaker 2: and maintained a good relationship with Colin and he decided
Speaker 2: to use Louisville or decided to state Louisville for his
Speaker 2: final year, and that's huge. So I know there are
Speaker 2: other coaches that have done a pretty good job of
Speaker 2: navigating this new world of college football, really college sports,
Speaker 2: when it comes to knowing that you got to reload
Speaker 2: every year and you're gonna lose players. So instead of
Speaker 2: sulking about it, just go out there and try to
Speaker 2: find somebody that can help replace that player. I know
Speaker 2: he's not the only one, but he's got to be
Speaker 2: up there as far as the two years he's been
Speaker 2: at low to where he has shown he is adapting
Speaker 2: better than a lot of those coaches. And let me
Speaker 2: see here, let me just give you a quick update.
Speaker 2: So just some names that you'll probably be familiar with.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that are entering the portal
Speaker 2: that have announced it today that I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: if a lot of you don't know who they are
Speaker 2: because they didn't they didn't play a whole lot. But
Speaker 2: we've got let's see, let's see. Let me let me
Speaker 2: pull up the updated list here. Jalil Skinner. He is
Speaker 2: the tight end new transfer from Miami. He was a
Speaker 2: four star recruit but didn't didn't play a lot. There's
Speaker 2: a reason you probably don't know a lot about him
Speaker 2: because he didn't. He was not a guy that was
Speaker 2: prominently featured as a tight end this year. So he's
Speaker 2: hit hitting the portal and it makes sense. Jimmy Jimmy Callaway. Uh,
Speaker 2: he's a receiver that I believe. I mean, he was
Speaker 2: what you got hurt earlier this year, I think he is.
Speaker 2: But either way, at receiver, you know you've you've got
Speaker 2: some young guys that really emerged and some guy, I
Speaker 2: mean Colin Lacey's going to be back Blue Hicks is
Speaker 2: probably going to be a big factor in your offense
Speaker 2: next season. And then at running back, you lost Donald
Speaker 2: Cheney yesterday. We talked about that, and then Maurice Turner
Speaker 2: announced today that he's going to transfer, and that makes
Speaker 2: total sense. I mean, Maurice Turner a guy who's been
Speaker 2: here a long time and never really was able to
Speaker 2: kind of emerge as the is the lead ball carrier,
Speaker 2: and now he had two true freshmen come in and honestly,
Speaker 2: his injury was unfortunate for him, but it did leave
Speaker 2: it did lead to them having to rely on freshmen
Speaker 2: a little bit more than they probably wanted to at
Speaker 2: that position. And we found out that this team had
Speaker 2: some really really good running backs in Duke Watson and
Speaker 2: in Isaac Brown, some other names, Jalil McClain. He is
Speaker 2: a wide receiver who has been here for I believe
Speaker 2: a couple of years and really just could not couldn't
Speaker 2: crack the depth chart and get a lot of reps.
Speaker 2: Therefore he's deciding to transfer. Ben Perry, he's a two
Speaker 2: year starter at linebacker for Louisville, and he's a guy
Speaker 2: that you to me, I put him in the Huggins
Speaker 2: Brews situation as far as last year. He's not somebody
Speaker 2: that you're like wanting to leave. But if you really
Speaker 2: consider it, like you get why he is, because you
Speaker 2: know he's probably gonna get recruited over and or he's
Speaker 2: probably gonna have a chance to have a bigger role elsewhere,
Speaker 2: or maybe anil money could be, like he could be
Speaker 2: a bigger nil get elsewhere because Louisville's going to prioritize
Speaker 2: some other guys when it comes to NIL. So we'll
Speaker 2: keep you updated. At least I'll try to keep you
Speaker 2: update as best I can with the show. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure your best bet as far as figuring out who's
Speaker 2: leaving would be to just follow these guys on social
Speaker 2: media because these next couple of weeks, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: it's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be tough to keep
Speaker 2: up with. But so far, again, I still feel like
Speaker 2: you've been able to on the Louisville side, You've been
Speaker 2: able to manage the roster to where you're losing guys
Speaker 2: that you understand why they're leaving, and you're you've been
Speaker 2: able to retain guys that you know, you know you
Speaker 2: need to come back, and you got to make like
Speaker 2: for example, Isaac Brown and Duke Watson, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: if you guys missed a Duke Watson was on some
Speaker 2: social media video I think he did. I think he
Speaker 2: would joined somebody's live on Instagram or TikTok or something,
Speaker 2: and I found sound like such a grandpa talking about
Speaker 2: modern age social media that I just don't, you know,
Speaker 2: I know what it is, but I'm certainly not tuning
Speaker 2: in to see nineteen year old kids going live from
Speaker 2: their dorm room. And I'm not even sure if that's
Speaker 2: what he was doing, but that is where this news
Speaker 2: surface from. He was on a video telling Louisville fans
Speaker 2: to basically calm down and chill out and leave them
Speaker 2: alone because he's not going anywhere, which is great, that's
Speaker 2: what you want to hear. Isaac Brown hasn't done that,
Speaker 2: And I don't think that these guys are They don't
Speaker 2: owe anybody any kind of like statement on their situation.
Speaker 2: Are they leaving or are they staying, because there's really
Speaker 2: no reason to just assume they're going to leave. But like, again,
Speaker 2: this is a new world. I don't know if we're
Speaker 2: going to require these players to let us know that
Speaker 2: they're comfortable and they're not going anywhere. But when you
Speaker 2: have really good players and you know that at any
Speaker 2: moment they could leave, and you know that they're probably
Speaker 2: going to be influenced to leave by others, right, tampering's
Speaker 2: going on. We know that. So it's like, I don't
Speaker 2: think Isaac Brown owes us anything, but man, it would
Speaker 2: be really nice if he did come out and say
Speaker 2: something like, hey, everybody, chill, I'm not going anywhere. And
Speaker 2: by the way, with those guys, when you're coming in
Speaker 2: as a true freshman out out of high school, you're
Speaker 2: getting in ale money. But the really big payday n
Speaker 2: NIL for college players is coming after they've proven what
Speaker 2: they can do as college players other than a quarterback.
Speaker 2: If you're a really good quarterback, you can go get
Speaker 2: a crazy amount of money like that kid just did
Speaker 2: who flipped from Lshue to Michigan. So I'm sure those
Speaker 2: guys had some inn iil money to get them here,
Speaker 2: meaning Duke Watson and Isaac Brown. But now they they're
Speaker 2: gonna need a lot more and they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: get it or they're probably gonna look to leave. And
Speaker 2: I would too if I was them, because they've proven
Speaker 2: that they're really good and they're gonna have a lot
Speaker 2: of options. There's gonna be a lot of high bidders
Speaker 2: if they hit the portal. There's probably already high bidders
Speaker 2: right now when they're not in the portal, because again
Speaker 2: we know tampering happens, So it'll be a you know,
Speaker 2: probably a daily or an every other day kind of
Speaker 2: check in here on this show as far as where
Speaker 2: we just kind of do a reset and say, okay,
Speaker 2: where are we, Who have we lost? Who's who? Who
Speaker 2: do we think might leave? Who is so important to stay?
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff. Who they were going after in
Speaker 2: the portal, Like, for example, the quarterback who lit Louisville
Speaker 2: up last year, Miller Moss from USC, he is in
Speaker 2: the portal and apparently Louisville was one of four schools
Speaker 2: that he's looking at and is going to try to visit.
Speaker 2: And he was a really I mean, he was in
Speaker 2: he was since he was sensational against Louisville last year,
Speaker 2: and this year he got off to a decent start,
Speaker 2: but then he got benched, and I don't really I mean,
Speaker 2: his numbers weren't great. Like Jeff Brohm trusts him and
Speaker 2: he thinks he's good enough, then that's good enough for me.
Speaker 2: I trust Jeff when it comes to that. But I
Speaker 2: do think some Louisville fans are just looking at how
Speaker 2: he carved up that Louisville defense last year and not
Speaker 2: realizing that USC was very underwhelming this year and he
Speaker 2: got benched at quarterback and oh, by the way, he
Speaker 2: played for one of the best offensive mines in the
Speaker 2: country in Lincoln Riley and could not succeed. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I trust Jeff, but I would
Speaker 2: I would. I would hope that he's looking at other
Speaker 2: options as well. But again, he knows more than I do.
Speaker 2: And there were a lot of people that were kind
Speaker 2: of action their head about Tyler Shuck when there were
Speaker 2: a lot of other big names out there like Dju
Speaker 2: and Uh. I mean, there were a lot of quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that ended up getting a lot of money to transfer,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of hype surrounding them. And
Speaker 2: they were just whatever. I mean, they weren't really special
Speaker 2: in any way. And I don't know if you would
Speaker 2: say Tyler Shuck was special, but I would say that
Speaker 2: was a pretty good investment. I don't even know what
Speaker 2: they paid, but I know it wasn't close to what
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks were getting elsewhere. All Right, So the college
Speaker 2: football playoff rankings come out tonight, the updated ones, before
Speaker 2: we get to the conference championships this weekend. And I
Speaker 2: just wanted to reference this really quickly here because when
Speaker 2: it comes to coaches that are out there lobbying to
Speaker 2: get in, trying to make their case, I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: at all, and I get it, like I would probably
Speaker 2: do the same thing, but it's just become so annoying.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this. The second someone says
Speaker 2: a coach, by the way, says, you can't tell me,
Speaker 2: like you can't tell tell me we're not one of
Speaker 2: the twelve best teams in the country. You can't tell
Speaker 2: me that this league is not the best league in
Speaker 2: the country. You can't tell me. By saying you can't
Speaker 2: tell me, you're admitting that you don't have the results needed.
Speaker 2: You're admitting that they need to just rely on benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt and not real results. You can't tell
Speaker 2: me that the SEC doesn't deserve four teams, and you
Speaker 2: can't tell me that we're not one of the best
Speaker 2: teams in the country despite having three losses. That's what
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer in South Carolina said, And again I don't
Speaker 2: blame him, but that you can't tell me is such
Speaker 2: a tell that you actually don't have the credentials that
Speaker 2: that are needed. And I know you can be twelve
Speaker 2: and three or nine and three in the SEC, and
Speaker 2: it's probably not the same as an eleven and one
Speaker 2: Indiana and the Big ten, but at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, results matter, and you didn't get the results needed.
Speaker 2: You left open an opportunity for people to doubt if
Speaker 2: you are truly good enough to be there and you
Speaker 2: didn't win enough. So I mean, like, for example, Florida State,
Speaker 2: You're like, Florida State probably would have been gosh of
Speaker 2: the five teams before the season started. That ever, if
Speaker 2: you if you had to pick five teams that you
Speaker 2: felt totally confident we're gonna be in the twelve team playoff,
Speaker 2: Florida State would have been mentioned, I think by everybody yeah,
Speaker 2: because everybody, everybody would have said they were going to
Speaker 2: run the ACC again, Right, you can't tell me Florida
Speaker 2: State's not going to be in the playoff. Florida State
Speaker 2: was one of the worst teams in the country this year.
Speaker 2: So if we go off of well, you can't tell me.
Speaker 2: You got to just you know, assume why even play games,
Speaker 2: why even have a season, Like results have to matter.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that that means that, you know,
Speaker 2: Indiana being eleven and one that they're they're automatically good
Speaker 2: enough to be there, but like it is what it is, like,
Speaker 2: you know, in Indiana getting there and losing in the
Speaker 2: first game, if that was to happen, wouldn't mean that
Speaker 2: you belonged South Carolina. It wouldn't. And I just I
Speaker 2: don't think it's ever gonna change because the SEC lives
Speaker 2: in its own world, and yes, they are the best league.
Speaker 2: I don't think many would really argue that, but they
Speaker 2: just assume that they're like and it's so evident, like
Speaker 2: Georgia should have lost to Georgia Tech, like that was
Speaker 2: not an impressive showing from Georgia at all. But you know, man,
Speaker 2: the SEC, what are you gonna do. No, you didn't
Speaker 2: actually know. You didn't play an SEC steam you played
Speaker 2: an ACC team. I mean, this is, this is and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to make sure I get this correct
Speaker 2: because this is not somebody that I rarely referenced. This
Speaker 2: person on the show. I think it might be Mark Packer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mark Packer, who is on He's part of the ACC
Speaker 2: Network coverage. I thought he did a phenomenal job here
Speaker 2: at really just putting, I mean, just just highlighting the
Speaker 2: hypocrisy and the inconsistency from those on the SEC, including
Speaker 2: Paul Finbaum.
Speaker 4: I've already seen narrative. In fact, I'm gonna go off
Speaker 4: on something right now. Yesterday, I'm sitting upstairs. I'm always
Speaker 4: working on the day aheads, I'm already working on tomorrow's show.
Speaker 4: But yesterday, I'm working on Monday show and I go
Speaker 4: to ESPN dot comicch I always do, and the first
Speaker 4: thing I see is Paul finebaumb ragging the University of Miami,
Speaker 4: saying they're frauds. Now again, everybody's in town of their opinion.
Speaker 3: Let me just say something.
Speaker 4: I did not hear the same vitriol a week earlier
Speaker 4: from the same talking heads when Alabama, as a two
Speaker 4: touchdown favorite, went out to play very average Oklahoma and
Speaker 4: got destroyed. Didn't hear that, But I heard it with
Speaker 4: Miami losing to a nine to three team on the
Speaker 4: road who should be ranked. I did hear that, which
Speaker 4: is ridiculous. No, nothing about being a fraud. This is
Speaker 4: not Lane Kiffin, after being out coached and losing at
Speaker 4: the Swamp, running his mouth saying about, well if somebody
Speaker 4: from the ACC is the Big twelve of the play right, Well,
Speaker 4: there was a team from the ACC, Lane that actually
Speaker 4: played the team that you just lost to. Their name is,
Speaker 4: let me get was Miami. They went to the Swamp,
Speaker 4: they destroyed Florida.
Speaker 3: In fact, it was.
Speaker 4: Such an ugly game most of America turned it off
Speaker 4: in the third quarter because they were up by four touchdowns.
Speaker 2: So I keep.
Speaker 4: Hearing the narrative, especially about Miami. Forget about SMU. They're
Speaker 4: a college football playoff team.
Speaker 2: So there's more to that. But like, nobody's out here
Speaker 2: claiming that the ACC or the Big Ten or the
Speaker 2: Big twelve is superior. But there's just the narrative about
Speaker 2: the I mean, it's just like there's actually evidence that
Speaker 2: shows you that actually no, there is a data point
Speaker 2: here that would actually give real reason to doubt that
Speaker 2: you deserve the benefit of the doubt. Well, what are
Speaker 2: you gonna do. It's just a bunch of SEC teams?
Speaker 2: Is if these other teams played in our league. Well, actually,
Speaker 2: there's some teams that are in other leagues that went
Speaker 2: and played your almighty SEC teams and they beat them.
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's it's doesn't mean the SEC is
Speaker 2: not great, doesn't mean that it's not the best league.
Speaker 2: But they want to live in an alternate world to
Speaker 2: where they just get a benefit of the doubt that
Speaker 2: isn't deserved. And again there's evidence that shows they're not
Speaker 2: worthy of it. All right, quick, bick, we'll come back
Speaker 2: on the other side and wrap it up.
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Speaker 2: Dy. We have very little time left here before we
Speaker 2: wrap it up and get out of here, but big
Speaker 2: thanks to all of you who tuned in today. I
Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed yourself. If not, I would say that's
Speaker 2: maybe a you problem, and you should just come back
Speaker 2: tomorrow and try again.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a you problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. But you know we can
Speaker 2: work on it. We'll work together to where you just
Speaker 2: you know, you become a loyal listener and a big
Speaker 2: fan of the show. And again, if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: it's more you than it is us, I choose to believe.
Speaker 2: But we'll have the podcast up for those that missed
Speaker 2: anything on today's show. And again a late night tonight,
Speaker 2: nine o'clock tip my man go into the game tonight
Speaker 2: like you go.
Speaker 3: Are you bringing the energy? I'm absolutely bringing it back
Speaker 3: to the young It's been a while. Like I was
Speaker 3: telling you, last time I went there was when we
Speaker 3: blew like a twenty twenty five point lead to the
Speaker 3: Duke and Zion Williamson twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of different ways to look
Speaker 2: at that. Either this is a bad sign for tonight
Speaker 2: or or we've had really bad stretches of basketball, Like
Speaker 2: maybe you not being there for so long has led
Speaker 2: to us kind of falling a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm one in three in attending Louisville basketball games again,
Speaker 3: not making me feel great, But you know, we brought
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 2: We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna get that streak or
Speaker 2: get that record looking a little better after tonight. I
Speaker 2: hope they can pull it out. But it'll be a
Speaker 2: tough game, no doubt. But enjoy yourself, be safe, Thank you,
Speaker 2: sure loud, bring the vibes, and hopefully when we're back
Speaker 2: here tomorrow, we're talking about a big Louisville win, right.
Speaker 3: Sure thing, Oh we will. I'll put me in at
Speaker 3: the four.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. That'd be good stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: we're out here. Take care of everybody, Have a good night.
Speaker 2: Talk tomorrow