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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling me busy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio. Thank you very much, Nicole. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be the first to wish you a happy

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<v Speaker 1>marcht A meteorological spring, as I'm sure you know, starts

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<v Speaker 1>in less than four hours, and I will take everyone

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<v Speaker 1>right to the cusp of the meteorological spring.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that, and you know what I'll be listening into.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't care what kind of spring at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get this ice off of my street. Care what

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do. Although, yeah, we're getting a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of like the winter push and we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in that weird in between where snow is nice

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the first part of winter and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like, please just let me be done. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're all a little afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>The beginning of the mud season here. Yeah it's a

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<v Speaker 1>simple as that. But I just think it's great. March

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<v Speaker 1>is here, spring training is for real, Baseball is very close.

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<v Speaker 1>All good things here in December, January and February four

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<v Speaker 1>hours snow being a rear y isn't that exciting?

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of here, yes, very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy your weekend having ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you read too, my friend, Thank you, thanks to Cale.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in an upbeat mood. We have a great

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<v Speaker 1>show schedule for you and I provided pretty much by

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<v Speaker 1>the White House players. It was a wild scene today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to all of that beginning at

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock tonight. My name is Dan Ray. Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>is back in the control room tonight. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a busy night for you. Rob on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, so that's a good thing. We'll get you

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<v Speaker 1>all the way until February first, I mean, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>March first. This is February twenty eighth, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the month. I know it's not a leap year, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's no extra day in February this year. March first

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<v Speaker 1>is less than four hours away. We have a four

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<v Speaker 1>very special and interesting guest to talk about a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of subjects. Going to talk about reopening at the Freedom Trail,

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about why women outlive men. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know the answer to that, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the dating habits of gen Z. They

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<v Speaker 1>apparently don't want to date anybody with whom they disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with politically. In terms of sports teams, they're very Picky.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to all of that, but first I want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome Chris Mancini. He is the executive director of

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<v Speaker 1>Save the Harbor, Save the Bay, And I guess on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday gonna be a little chili on Sunday. Chris, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you this evening? Yeah, it's too bad. This wasn't tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be a nicer day tomorrow. A little

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<v Speaker 1>chili on Sunday, I'm told. And this is the Save

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<v Speaker 1>the Harbor's fiftieth annual Shamrock Splash at Constitution Beach in

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<v Speaker 1>East Boston. You must have some very courageous people supporting

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<v Speaker 1>your organization, because I liked to maybe dip my toes

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<v Speaker 1>into the beach water, you know, once it warms up

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<v Speaker 1>mid to late September.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like you.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, it's spring, so we're going swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true, there's no doubt about that. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>first we'll tell us about your group, Save the Harbor,

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<v Speaker 1>Saved the Bay. Which harbor? Which bay? I assume is

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Harbor, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. Save the Harbor, say, Boston Harbor, founded in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty six, helped clean up the harbor where we

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<v Speaker 4>had I think it's called the Harbor of Shame because

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<v Speaker 4>of the millions of gallons of sewage going out there

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<v Speaker 4>every day. But as a result of all that work

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<v Speaker 4>over the last almost forty years, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 4>the cleanest urban beaches in the country, and so we

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<v Speaker 4>start celebrating that as soon as possible with our annual

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<v Speaker 4>Jet Blue sponsored Shamrock Splash. We'll be there Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 4>from eleven till two. We're going to be plunging our

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<v Speaker 4>polar Plunge. Folks are raising money for it right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and we turn around and we grant that money out

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<v Speaker 4>to kids programs, community organizations, literacy programs, all to do

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<v Speaker 4>free public events on our our amazing clean beaches all

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<v Speaker 4>summer long.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, there was a Superior Court judge,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Paul Garretty who was in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of the cleanup of the harbor.

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<v Speaker 4>He was sludge Judge, the flooded blood Judge Garrety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great friend from for many years and uh he's

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<v Speaker 1>passed on, but uh what it's just just a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So so all of this takes place at Constitution Beach

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<v Speaker 1>in East Boston. Let's let's get some of the times

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<v Speaker 1>and what time people should be there. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to find out if there is some hearty souls out

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<v Speaker 1>there tonight who were who would like to join you

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<v Speaker 1>in the polar plunge. We want to get in. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's talk about the timing of this. What

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<v Speaker 1>what time folks? It says eleven to two? What time

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<v Speaker 1>can folks turn up? All right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well so you know the chiefs got a shamrock

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<v Speaker 4>splash dot or you can get all the details. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we start at eleven That's when people are showing up

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<v Speaker 4>and signing in. At eleven forty five am, we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>our costume contest. We have six round trip Jet Blue

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<v Speaker 4>flights that people are going to walk home with on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 4>and two of those folks are going to win that

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<v Speaker 4>costume contest and take a Jet Blue flight home. So

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<v Speaker 4>you can show up in costume. You know, here's the

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<v Speaker 4>cheet code. You don't even have to go in the water,

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<v Speaker 4>although there is a little bit of street cred to

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<v Speaker 4>be earned for that. So yeah, eleven forty five is

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<v Speaker 4>the costume contest. At twelve sharp, we splash and you

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<v Speaker 4>can stay in for half a second, which might be preferable.

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<v Speaker 4>Or We've got a couple folks there who try to

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<v Speaker 4>break their record every year, and I think they're up

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<v Speaker 4>to ten minutes they sit there in this ice bath,

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<v Speaker 4>but I will say it looks like it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be cold. We are also sponsored by FMC Ice Sports.

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<v Speaker 4>They run the ice rink right there. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>moved to practice so that we can all be in

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<v Speaker 4>there warming up. They have hot showers, hot chocolate, So

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<v Speaker 4>if anyone's on the fence, it's going to be called

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<v Speaker 4>show up anyway, because we've got Sam Adams there, We've

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<v Speaker 4>got down Eastsider, we've got food from East Boston, and

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<v Speaker 4>we've got warm showers and the ice drink to keep

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<v Speaker 4>us warm if we need it well.

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<v Speaker 1>And how how many folks do you think you attract,

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<v Speaker 1>either as participants or people who actually jump in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>What what have you done in prior years? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've got we've got, you know, three hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>on the beach, and depending on the weather on the day,

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<v Speaker 4>you know how many of those folks are going in

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<v Speaker 4>the water, and then how many just wrap themselves into

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<v Speaker 4>towel and then shiver to act like they did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't think that that many people

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<v Speaker 1>who would take the time to show up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the difference between if the water temperature is thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and thirty six? You really can't tell the difference

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got perfect pitch for water temperature.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know how common that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, And so do people raise funds? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a participant participatory? See? How do you raise the money?

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<v Speaker 1>Do people pledge a dollar for every second someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>staying in the water? How does this work?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>You sign up, You register for thirty dollars. You can

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<v Speaker 4>also buy a ticket to the event for thirty dollars. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing we do all year that's cost any money.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything else save the Harbord does is free, open to

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<v Speaker 4>the public. We go cruises to the Harbor islands, We

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<v Speaker 4>do concerts and camps and all sorts of great stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's that. So you can show up.

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<v Speaker 1>You can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can pay the thirty dollars and enjoy all the

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<v Speaker 4>food and beverages and the costume contest for that and

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<v Speaker 4>yes on shamrocks blush. I know, you can also set

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<v Speaker 4>up a fundraising page, and we're two days out, so

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<v Speaker 4>there's not that much time left to fundraise. But we

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<v Speaker 4>are just about five thousand dollars shy of our fifty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars goal, and so we are really looking for

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<v Speaker 4>some folks. If you just want to log on, you

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<v Speaker 4>can donate to me, or you can donate to any

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<v Speaker 4>of the participants up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, let's let's give the website nice, nice and

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<v Speaker 1>slowly so everybody can can write it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, you got it, of course, www dot shamrock,

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<v Speaker 4>splash dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know that w W. Yeah, that w W stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's long gone. I don't know. I was like, shamrock, No,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, I do this. A bunch of dots shamrock

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<v Speaker 1>splash dot org will get you to exactly where you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go. It's as simple as that. Yeah. Www

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<v Speaker 1>was was pretty good about twenty years ago. But I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a little passe. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>just try to say this. I think that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>I misspell it too.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point in the the search engines are good

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<v Speaker 4>enough to find the right thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Well, that's true too, but shamrock, splash dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows how to get there. Chris Mncini, thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a great a great cause. It's a little chilly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a great cause. So I encourage everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there. And if I was a little braver,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd probably do it. But as I said, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>I am cold waller.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get you year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe I'll work on the beg you Chris, you

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<v Speaker 1>got you soon. All right, we get back. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to someone who's going to explain to us

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<v Speaker 1>that gen Zers, about thirty percent of them won't date

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<v Speaker 1>people who dislike their favorite artist, who dislike their favorite

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<v Speaker 1>sports team. And I don't think gen zs will date

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<v Speaker 1>across party lines Democrat Republicans, so kind of cuts down

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, the group of people you can date. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk with Matt Schultz on the other side of this break.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside on WBC

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty Am or the AM dial, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Brooks, the producer of this program, is sitting back

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<v Speaker 1>in the comfort of the control room at Broadcast Central,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would remind you that you can always get

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<v Speaker 1>WBZ Radio. My name's Dan right, be right back. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about gen Z. We talk about them

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Now back to Dan Ray live from the

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<v Speaker 1>Window World, Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Zers. We talk about this group.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the folks who have been born, came into

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<v Speaker 1>this world in the mid nineteen nineties, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the end of gen Z's birth year is twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>With us is Matt Schultz. He's the chief consumer finance

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<v Speaker 1>analyst at lending Tree. Have I picked the approximate right

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<v Speaker 1>dates for gen Z? Matt, how are you to night?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing all right? Yeah, that's that's basically it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm my son is a freshman in college and he's

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<v Speaker 3>So that's so you got that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So your son if he's yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what year he was born. But but gen Zs, some

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<v Speaker 1>And blending Tree comes in this into this because you

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<v Speaker 1>But now we find out that beyond you know, financial incompatibility,

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<v Speaker 1>which can obviously interrupt relationships, we know that politically, the

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<v Speaker 1>But now you've done another a couple of surveys here

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<v Speaker 1>which says that thirty percent of gen Zers won't date

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<v Speaker 1>who dislikes their favorite artist or sports team. So Red

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<v Speaker 1>Sox fan, Yankee fan, that's not going to work. If

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<v Speaker 1>you like Madonna and someone else like Taylor Swift, that

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<v Speaker 3>I think, what's going on, Well, it's it's certainly interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>So but it is you push let me push back

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<v Speaker 1>on that just a little bit. Okay, be sure I

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<v Speaker 1>get the point you make it. Look, if you talk

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor swifties who try to go to as many concerts

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<v Speaker 1>Grateful Debt, and I know people said, I mean, they've

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how in any close proximity to the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you know, they can watch sports on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no additional costs associated with that, go to one

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<v Speaker 1>or two concerts. Well, it seems to me there's more

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, there's there's something to be said for that,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is also something to be said for us

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<v Speaker 3>And this is kind of one of those examples. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I could see like if if somebody was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those might still exist, I could see that,

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<v Speaker 1>Or if somebody was into if there was, say someone

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you know, he roots for the

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't understand it. And I'm just wondering, do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with the gen z. Is they very opinionated

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like they don't want to even listen even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's something as ephemeral as what sports team you

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<v Speaker 1>root for, what baseball team you like, what football team

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<v Speaker 1>me to be pretty shallow. I hate to put it

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<v Speaker 1>like that because I'm probably upsetting gen zs who are

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do think the two degree. Every young generation

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot of things that they are in common

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<v Speaker 3>with the last generation when they were young, and and

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<v Speaker 3>like I was saying, I think that did before you

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<v Speaker 3>really kind of know what you want. You think you

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<v Speaker 3>know what you want, and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>may be a super big priority for you at those

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<v Speaker 3>points is liking the same sort of music because you

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<v Speaker 3>can't imagine a time that would come where you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>spend your weekends at the club watching your favorite bands,

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<v Speaker 3>or at the sports bar watching you know, watching the

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics or whatever. And it's it's some of it is

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<v Speaker 3>just a growth and maturation thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that's the key. Actually, if

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<v Speaker 1>folks want to find some of the articles that you've written,

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<v Speaker 1>can you reference a couple of them maybe that that

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<v Speaker 1>you might like people to check out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, lending Tree's got lots of information to help people out.

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<v Speaker 3>And the one that I always talk about the most

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<v Speaker 3>is we asked people if they had ever asked for

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<v Speaker 3>a lower interest rate on their credit card when we've

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<v Speaker 3>done this survey for years and years and years, and

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<v Speaker 3>the last time we did it, it showed that the

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<v Speaker 3>ree out of every four people who had done it

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<v Speaker 3>got their way and the average reduction was like six points.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like going from like twenty five percent to

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen percent, and it's something that can be a really

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<v Speaker 3>significant difference, and that you can find that information on

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<v Speaker 3>lending tree.

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<v Speaker 1>So just lendingtree dot com. Yep, perfect, perfect, Matt Schultz.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. We'll have you back again. These are

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<v Speaker 1>interesting topics to me. We need to spend more time

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<v Speaker 1>on some of these and get it. Get some gen

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<v Speaker 1>z's in here and tell us what they disagree about,

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<v Speaker 1>like shit, life is too short. Thank you, Matt, appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you call very much. Have a great weekend and happy March.

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<v Speaker 1>March will be here in about three and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely same to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks coming right back. We will be back right after

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<v Speaker 1>our newscast at the bottom of the hour, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to ask a very obvious question, why do

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<v Speaker 1>women live longer than men. We're going to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>an expert who's an associate professor of gerontology. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know the answer and I'm going to run

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<v Speaker 1>it by the expert, and then she'll tell me I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out why why women live longer than men.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back on night Side after this. It's Night

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<v Speaker 1>Side with Boston's News Radio. All right now, I am

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<v Speaker 1>delighted to welcome doctor. I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Berenice. Benny yun correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Benny, Yes, this is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. You're an Associate Professor of sarontology,

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<v Speaker 1>biological sciences, biochemistry, and Molecular Medicine at USC the Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Davis School of Gerontology. Wow, that's an impressive resume. The

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<v Speaker 1>question is why do women live longer than men? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my pop quiz answer, because men end up doing some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty great dangerous things like being in the military, being firefighters,

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<v Speaker 1>being police officers, Nascar drivers. I know that's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>to run that one by you just for fun.

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<v Speaker 6>No, so that's definitely, that's definitely not helping. Let's just

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<v Speaker 6>say it like this. But there's definitely in addition to

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<v Speaker 6>just you know, risk taking behavior, there are also some

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<v Speaker 6>biological underlying, you know, driving those those differences that we

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<v Speaker 6>can actually see Uh, in a lot of mammals. Actually

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<v Speaker 6>females are longer lived that than males, and in that

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<v Speaker 6>case they don't necessarily, you know, drive NASCAR. So we

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<v Speaker 6>can know that in controlled condition, being male is a

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I never thought I would hear a professor say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh again, what is what is the the life expectancy?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the COVID plague has messed up the

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<v Speaker 1>life expectancies and our life expectancies with which for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for many many years, have decades, actually have been getting longer,

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<v Speaker 1>generally for both men and women, I believe has dropped

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID. Am I correct on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Assumption, Yes, then you're you're perfectly correct.

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<v Speaker 6>Although it had been going up for several decades, the

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<v Speaker 6>COVID pandemic definitely not only erased those games, but actually

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<v Speaker 6>led to a reduction in the life expectancy. So right

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<v Speaker 6>now it's about eighty years for women in the US

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<v Speaker 6>and about seventy four seventy five years for men.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA, So that's a big spin. That's a difference of

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<v Speaker 1>five to six years, which is interesting. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>the difference is if it is not. And again, of

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<v Speaker 1>course in recent years, more women have been in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>more women and police officers. I've covered stories on this

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<v Speaker 1>line of duty. There are more women firefighters. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a period of time when when men really

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<v Speaker 1>the actually like they're sitting in a park. An amazing photograph.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the underlying causes that we need to

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<v Speaker 6>And so there's there's still contributors. So you know, in research,

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<v Speaker 6>two drivers and both are equally important in this phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 6>One of them is basically females and women in general

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<v Speaker 6>will be will have XX chromosomes, whereas men will have

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<v Speaker 6>X Y chromosome. And it turns out that having a

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<v Speaker 6>a backup copy. If one of the genes is you know,

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<v Speaker 6>so that immediately creates additional risk for males not to

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<v Speaker 6>have that. And so yeah, so that's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's a lot of super important brain health genes

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<v Speaker 6>are going to have higher levels of drogens. And I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but estrogens

421
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<v Speaker 6>are really good for you, and androgens tend to be

422
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<v Speaker 6>really bad for you. There's actually some really interesting historical

423
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<v Speaker 6>data looking at the survival of unux in Korea during

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<v Speaker 6>the Empire, and they were substantially longer lived than you know,

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<v Speaker 6>intact men of the same station, you know, nobles basically,

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<v Speaker 6>so we know to stosterone is bad for you, and

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<v Speaker 6>we know estrogen is good for you, like later age

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<v Speaker 6>at menopause. So when women basically have and dogenus production

429
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<v Speaker 6>of estrogens for longer is actually the best predictor for

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<v Speaker 6>overall longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, nic thing that I think I'll pass on

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<v Speaker 1>that actually, and I'll take the short life life span

433
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<v Speaker 1>even with that as a factor. This is fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there statistically no impact particularly in you know, prior

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<v Speaker 1>generations when women were more I don't know I'm talking

436
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<v Speaker 1>when I say sheltered what I mean by that they

437
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<v Speaker 1>were you know, home makers and homebodies in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, in early sixties, and men were still going

439
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<v Speaker 1>out to work forty hours a week. Did those factors

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<v Speaker 1>at play or is this is all this seems to

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<v Speaker 1>sounds to me like you're saying it is all in

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<v Speaker 1>effect biological.

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<v Speaker 6>Majority of the effect is biological. Because also when we

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<v Speaker 6>look you know, nowadays, throughout the world, where there's still

445
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<v Speaker 6>societies where you know, women are quote unquote sheltered, or

446
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<v Speaker 6>when actually there's equal distribution, you know, hunter gatherer societies,

447
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<v Speaker 6>the female advantage is conserved. There is literally not a

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<v Speaker 6>single human population where we have life expectancy data where

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<v Speaker 6>women do not outlive men by you know, an average

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<v Speaker 6>of at least five years. And obviously when you have

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<v Speaker 6>things like you know, big wars that decimated men, you know,

452
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<v Speaker 6>like nineteen fourteen, nineteen eighteen, nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty

453
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<v Speaker 6>five that did further, you know, increase the gap. But

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<v Speaker 6>even like again across societies industrially developed, underdeveloped, hunter gatherer societies,

455
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<v Speaker 6>the female advantage is always observed in humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a fascinating field of study that you're that you're

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<v Speaker 1>involved in, is there is we always talk of science

458
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<v Speaker 1>is never being settled. This sounds to me like this

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<v Speaker 1>is an area of science which is pretty settled.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's aspects that are settled, right Like, so

461
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<v Speaker 6>we know that that difference exists, but then you know,

462
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<v Speaker 6>understanding what you know obviously the sex chromosome, the sex chromones,

463
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<v Speaker 6>that's one layer. But what we want to do as scientists,

464
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<v Speaker 6>and especially in this field we actually call it the

465
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<v Speaker 6>geoscience field, is not just increased lifespan. It's also increase

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<v Speaker 6>what we call health span, so the number of year

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<v Speaker 6>years that were healthy. And in that in that context,

468
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<v Speaker 6>actually the advantage is flipped. Women have much worse health

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<v Speaker 6>span than men. And so the idea in this field

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<v Speaker 6>when we study sex differences, like my lab does is

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<v Speaker 6>that we can learn from the sex that does better,

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<v Speaker 6>whether be it in longevity or health, and by figuring

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<v Speaker 6>out the molecular pathways behind that, we might be able

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<v Speaker 6>to create therapys that benefit the other sex.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>And so because most people, I'm sure you included, most

477
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<v Speaker 6>men wouldn't want to take estrogens to get the female benefit,

478
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<v Speaker 6>and most women would not want to take endrogens to

479
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<v Speaker 6>get the male benefit, what we're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 6>identify pathways that wouldn't have these kind of impacts right

481
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<v Speaker 6>on health and and wouldn't masculinize or feminize you know,

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<v Speaker 6>other aspects of of your of your biology.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically. So what I'm hearing, what I think i'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is that women will live longer on air,

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<v Speaker 1>but men might have a higher percentage of healthy lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that there could be women who might live five,

487
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<v Speaker 1>you know, on an average five years longer, but for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons, medically otherwise, that that the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of their life might might they may last longer, but

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<v Speaker 1>it might diminish more quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that, yeah, that is absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to I'm ready to take I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>take the spot quiz Monday morning, professor, what time's class?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, No, I'm I'm you explained it so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I do listen. But I think you explained it well.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, I think most people can understand what

498
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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. That that and oftentimes when a male predeceases

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<v Speaker 1>a female. Uh, I've noticed it in my own experience

500
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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes the male will will pass off an unexpected

501
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<v Speaker 1>massive heart attack, and the vibrancy of the surviving spouse

502
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 1>diminishes pretty pretty quickly. So, you know, it's fascinating field

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<v Speaker 1>of study. I would love to have you back some night.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. How can folks get more information? Most

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00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 1>people who are here have written or on my show

506
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>have written a book, or have have some some product.

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<v Speaker 1>They might be U, you're not pitching a product that

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<v Speaker 1>you're providing us with great information. Is there any any

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<v Speaker 1>way that you'd like to direct people towards your field

510
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<v Speaker 1>of study?

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<v Speaker 6>So, like you say, I don't have like something that's

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<v Speaker 6>necessarily super accessible to the LA audience to promote, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, there's more and more people like me doing

514
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<v Speaker 6>this work. I think it's important to realize, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the implications for health, because you know, as long as

516
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<v Speaker 6>you're alive, you're aging, and so being able to have

517
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<v Speaker 6>healthy aging is really something that's that's crucial. And so

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<v Speaker 6>I am just hoping that the public can understand the

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<v Speaker 6>importance of the work we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Right And as I have said to friends of mine recently,

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<v Speaker 1>no one gets out of this place alive, so no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how hard exactly anyway, Professor I really enjoyed our conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you much, Professor Barones Betting you of USC Leonard

524
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<v Speaker 1>Davis School of Gerontology. I hope to talk with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a good night you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye. We come back on to talk with a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Freedom Trail Foundation. The Freedom Trail rock

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<v Speaker 1>Walks begin tomorrow at ten forty five am. Winter's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Another sign this spring is here. Back after this at

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<v Speaker 1>night Side. Now back to Dan ray Line from the

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<v Speaker 1>Window World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I have mentioned a couple of times, tonight, we

534
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<v Speaker 1>are about I don't know, three hours and ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>away from March. First, this is the last evening of February,

536
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<v Speaker 1>so tomorrow brand new month starts. Also what's what's called

537
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<v Speaker 1>meteorological spring. Spring doesn't technically start until March twenty first,

538
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 1>but mediaorological spring is March, April and May. And one

539
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<v Speaker 1>of the signs of spring here in New England is

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<v Speaker 1>when the Freedom Trail gets active again. And with us

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the Freedom Trail players. Kara Zeiberg, Hey care,

542
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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Nightside. How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm great, Dan, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just wonderful. Now you portray, when you're in costume,

545
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<v Speaker 1>a woman by the name of Thankful Rice.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, correct, yep, correct.

547
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<v Speaker 1>And just give us a quick little synopsis of the

548
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<v Speaker 1>person you portray. Tell us a little bit about her,

549
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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to talk about how people can

550
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<v Speaker 1>get tickets and all of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, so I portray a woman named Thankful Rice, who

552
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<v Speaker 5>I portray as a colonial spy. Very often women. Children

553
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 5>were very involved in spying during the American Revolution. One

554
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<v Speaker 5>of my favorite notes about spies in the Revolutionary period

555
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<v Speaker 5>is young boys like six, seven, eight years old would

556
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<v Speaker 5>go into Paul Reverer's smith's shop and they would lose

557
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<v Speaker 5>a button in the shop, which with kids at a

558
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<v Speaker 5>young age may leave and no one would take any notice.

559
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<v Speaker 5>But in those cloth buttons. Their mothers would have sewn

560
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<v Speaker 5>in information that Paul Revere would, you know, disseminate to

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<v Speaker 5>other members of the Sons of Liberty. So thankful is

562
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<v Speaker 5>you know, not one of these mothers. But she's hearing

563
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<v Speaker 5>information from British officers during the Quartering Act when it

564
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<v Speaker 5>was reinstated in seventeen seventy four. So she's bringing information

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<v Speaker 5>to the Sons of Liberty and helping with the Revolutionary

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<v Speaker 5>war effort.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I never knew. I never knew that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>were portraying an adult woman who has traps a child

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<v Speaker 1>or two, who was involved in the earliest full runner

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<v Speaker 1>of the CIA. Essentially basically one way to look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So, yeah, yeah, is tomorrow in effect opening

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<v Speaker 1>day is the the tours. They take a little break

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<v Speaker 1>during January and February or Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've been doing our regular Walk into History tours.

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<v Speaker 5>We do those all year round, but next tomorrow starts

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<v Speaker 5>Women's History Month, and so I'm going to be doing

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<v Speaker 5>the first Revolutionary Women's History tour of the year, and

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<v Speaker 5>that is at ten and refreshment recollection.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you gather near the Park Street station.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's actually right in front of the Visitors Information

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<v Speaker 5>Center on Boston Common, right across from the Dunkin Donuts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>at the sort of the back entrance to the Park

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<v Speaker 5>Street station.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, not far right, not far. And the tickets

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<v Speaker 1>they can be purchased, I assume, or reservations made in advance,

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<v Speaker 1>or they can just show up, you know, ten thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or so and get themselves all squared away. How folks

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<v Speaker 1>do you normally lead? I'm sure that on some days

589
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>it's busier than others. But what's a normal group of

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<v Speaker 1>people who you who will prosess with you along the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Trail?

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<v Speaker 5>So I would say for the specialty tours like the

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<v Speaker 5>Women's History Tour or the Revolutionary Women's History Tour, I

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<v Speaker 5>usually see a smaller number of people. I'll usually get

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<v Speaker 5>between like maybe five to I don't think I've had

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<v Speaker 5>more than twenty in a group, unless it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>Girl Scout group doing a private tour. But with the

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<v Speaker 5>larger with the Walk into History tours, especially in the summer,

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00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 5>they can get pretty pretty large.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess the advantage then tomorrow is supposed to

601
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<v Speaker 1>be a really nice day, and if people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be downtown Boston, or if they want to drive in,

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00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they can join up with you. And probably it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>for someone on the tour, the smaller of the group,

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00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>easier for them to interact with you and ask questions, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>do you stay fully in character? Or are are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your conversation with them, you know, twenty first century

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<v Speaker 1>language conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of so it kind of varies from player

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<v Speaker 5>to player. There is obviously a little bit more leeway

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<v Speaker 5>with our characterization as far as interacting with the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>first century than there is at like Plymouth Peduxit where

613
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<v Speaker 5>it's an enclosed environment. So like Plymouth Tuxit Sturbridge Village,

614
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<v Speaker 5>they're in a controlled environment where they don't have any

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<v Speaker 5>of that twenty first century technology going around. I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of downtown Boston. I can't you know, go,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my goodness, what's that? Every time someone pulls out

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<v Speaker 5>a cell phone on the tour. So there is a

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<v Speaker 5>bit more you know, modern interaction as well. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>you know, in the costume. Any you know, questions that

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<v Speaker 5>people have about eighteenth century I, you know, easily launch

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<v Speaker 5>into no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I totally get it. You sound like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>great tour guide, so it starts at ten forty five

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<v Speaker 1>to how long for people who are having questions about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ambl ambulatory distances. Uh, most tours are cover

627
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<v Speaker 1>what mile mile and a half or more? How how

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00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 1>how long are the toys physically, So it's.

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<v Speaker 5>so if you know, someone is unable to do the stairs,

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<v Speaker 5>I have ways of you know, maneuvering around that sort

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<v Speaker 5>walk around with all the cobblestones. So but I've been

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<v Speaker 5>way and and we'll we'll talk about this person here,

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<v Speaker 5>and I have laminettes to show folks when certain things

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<v Speaker 1>Those cobblestones do add to the reality of the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>of the eighteenth century. Sh exactly all right, Kara, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>very much, job. I love your passion for what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so important and tomorrow ten forty five Freedom Trail, Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>b There Wi Be Square. It is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice day, So best of luck on opening day.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen z Iberg portraying thankful Rice, and we're very thankful

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<v Speaker 1>that you joined us tonight, Kara, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Much, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, You're we When we get back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the big story of the day, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is the meeting in the Oval Office between and amongst

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<v Speaker 1>President Donald Trump, Vice President j d Vance, and Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>President Voladimir Zelenski. It was wild. We'll play it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't have a chance to hear it, you

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<v Speaker 1>will hear it in its entirety. It's about nine minutes long,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is wild.
