WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.519 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:17.199 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl chapters thirty seven through forty one. 3 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:25.239 In these chapters, somebody pisses on the wall and all 4 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:37.600 fucking hell breaks loose. You know, just follow instructions. How 5 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:44.119 hard is it? Don't answer that. Welcome to spoil Me, 6 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.439 Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you 7 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:09.239 very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. Yeah, Michael 8 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:13.640 says in the chat, fucking Jack. It's unclear to me, 9 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.799 they say later on, he knew, we told him, We 10 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:24.599 explained it to him, and that's all will and good. 11 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.959 I don't know how like with it Jack really was, 12 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.519 you know what I'm saying. It's hard for me to tell, 13 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:40.480 because sometimes elderly folks will pretend to be a little 14 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.840 bit less understanding than they really are, just so that 15 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.040 they can kind of do what they want, which I 16 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:51.680 honestly totally respect. But yeah, it's definitely like, how much 17 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:56.439 did he understand what you were asking of him? It's unclear. 18 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.439 I don't really know if this is something that can 19 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:06.400 be even quantified. But the like the mention earlier of well, 20 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.240 I have some dependens, I think is like basically what 21 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:14.400 she's saying, I had a feeling that wasn't gonna do 22 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:21.240 the job. Look, there comes a point in all our 23 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:26.400 lives if we live long enough where stuff just stops 24 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:32.919 quite working right dodgy plumbing, and you gotta be either like, 25 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:35.680 you gotta figure out how you're gonna cope. Are you 26 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.639 gonna be in denial and do a bunch of stuff 27 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:43.280 that's sort of like extra effort to get around acknowledging 28 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.479 this change. Are you going to take medications and whatnot? 29 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:51.560 Or are you going to just slap on a pair 30 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.599 of depends and be like, this is just the life 31 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.879 that I have now and try and roll with it. 32 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.240 I am not saying that one is better than the other. 33 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.080 For the record, I can really understand fighting against it, 34 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:09.439 because there is an element of humiliation in there, of shame. 35 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:14.800 You know. It sucks to feel like, how come I'm 36 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:16.879 older now? I have to pee every fucking half hour, 37 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.319 like even closer together than that, And sometimes if you 38 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.439 have to go bad enough, you straight up can't hold 39 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.800 it anymore. I can't imagine I am forty years old 40 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.199 and I'm already facing that weird thing where your body's 41 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.000 bluetooth hooks with the bluetooth in your bathroom when you 42 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.000 reach your front door from the car, and so you 43 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.080 aren't even in the front door, but already your body's like, 44 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:45.080 we're in the bathroom and it's trying to start going 45 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.919 and you're not even in the front door yet. I'm 46 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.280 only forty years old and I already have that, So like, 47 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:56.120 add on another thirty years. It can't be good. It 48 00:03:56.159 --> 00:04:00.479 cannot get better, It only gets worse. I want to 49 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:06.840 have some sympathy for him, but it's difficult. It is 50 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:11.759 really hard, you know. I just really am so angry 51 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.560 because the level of hell that he brings down on everybody, 52 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.600 and like it's not even like he has to suffer 53 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:26.439 through it. Instead, I think it's Ylanda right that kills him, 54 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.600 and so he has made her commit murder in this 55 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:35.439 brutal way to try and save everybody else, and then 56 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.439 that didn't even work. That's not even it didn't even 57 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.319 do anything. She shot him, and the elemental has already 58 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.199 been summoned, so it's too late. So it's just he 59 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:55.480 has just inflicted a level of suffering on everybody. That Ah, 60 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.879 it's hard for me to forgive. That's all I'm saying. 61 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:04.120 Let's begin at the beginning, though. We start on chapter 62 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:08.879 thirty seven with all of these grubs pouring into the 63 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:14.480 safe room, and understandably, Carl is a little puzzled why 64 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:19.600 they're not just like immediately teleporting away, and I also 65 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.399 was sort of expecting this, and Mordecai has to explain 66 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.480 they don't teleport away until they attack you, and these 67 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.439 grubs basically there's no method of attack. They can't do it, 68 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:38.000 so nothing happens because they're not like they're just like floppy, 69 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.839 little stuffed animals. At one point, Carl says that I'm 70 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.639 able to pick up a grub and put it in 71 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:49.199 my lap and nothing happens, because it just doesn't, you know. 72 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:54.879 And I think the fact that if you left the 73 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.480 door open long enough, and because these grubs don't attack, 74 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.160 that this safe room in quotes could fill with enough 75 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:13.800 grubs that it could potentially crush you. Is I feel 76 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:18.120 like that now is no longer a safe room. Maybe 77 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.319 that's just me, maybe that's just where I'm coming from 78 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:26.160 on this, but I just think that there should probably 79 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.000 be some sort of fine print that they can pull 80 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:36.839 up a lawsuit for this, and oh my god, Michael 81 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:40.800 in the chat says, Yolanda is how everyone thinks they 82 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.120 will be when it's time to be heroic. COVID showed 83 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.800 us that most people would be jack. Though, Michael, you 84 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:55.600 just fucking a whole sermon, a whole sermon. It's so true. 85 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:00.879 I hate it, and it's true. That just impressed me 86 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:08.639 so bad. Thanks a lot, Michael. So Carl realizes that 87 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.079 they are like following on their trail. They're coming to 88 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.920 the safe room for them, and he pulls up his 89 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.439 map and sees that there are thousands and they are 90 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.000 all heading in their direction. What the hell is this, 91 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.560 I asked Mordecai. I've never seen anything like this. Not 92 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:32.240 on the second floor. They're being spawned. Yeah, no shit, 93 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:37.160 I said. Every floor has a waste disposal system. He continued, 94 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.600 so far you've seen rats and the grubs. The more 95 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.040 dead bodies they eat, the stronger they get. It'll be 96 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.240 something different the next floor down. They're supposed to home 97 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.839 in on corpses if none but are none, if none 98 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.560 are nearby, they'll hunt crawlers. That's what they're doing. These 99 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:55.639 guys don't attack, but they'll still swarm at you, But 100 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.720 why are there so many of them? It looks like 101 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.399 the system spawning anywhere between one to fifteen of them 102 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.480 when a corpse is created. It usually doesn't do that 103 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.160 unless there aren't any janitor mobs nearby. You killed a 104 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:12.000 lot of mobs in that last battle, so here they are. 105 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.959 We didn't kill that many. Plus we've been destroying the corpses. 106 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.199 They probably had a couple hundred grubs in that cage 107 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.879 in the boss room. Yeah, there were seven hundred and 108 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:27.040 fifty of them, all fried. Plus you killed another eighty 109 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:31.240 five Chloricons between Grinding Away and the Boss battle. Destroying 110 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.320 corpses only keeps them from leveling up. It doesn't stop 111 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:38.919 them from being generated. You, my friends have been set up. 112 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:44.720 You've fallen into a trap that is so deeply unfair, 113 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.960 and it makes sense Allegedly they're trying to kill them 114 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:52.519 as fast as possible. Personally, I kind of feel like 115 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:57.080 maybe that's not as true as we have been thinking, 116 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.320 or maybe maybe it would be better to say say, 117 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.320 I believe that's what's happening because of what Mordecai said. 118 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.080 But I also feel like when you step back and 119 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:14.120 look at the overall way that they make money with 120 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:21.840 this game. Trying to kill Carl and Donut quickly is 121 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.679 actually pretty counterintuitive to what they should be doing. If 122 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:29.240 you want to make money off of people throwing in 123 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:33.759 to sponsor certain players, then you need to keep the 124 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:41.200 most fascinating players around. And I would argue that Donut 125 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.600 and Carl have a lot of viewership, and if you're 126 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.320 trying to take some people out early, try and take 127 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.440 out the people with the lowest number of sponsorships and 128 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:55.639 viewers and leave the people who are the biggest draw 129 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.799 so that you can keep as many sponsors active as 130 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.200 you can. Now. Granted, I am going off their numbers 131 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:08.120 and thinking to myself that this means they are very popular, 132 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.720 and it's possible. I don't know the numbers of how 133 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.080 many people out there are watching. I don't know whether 134 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:19.279 or not it's possible for other players out there to 135 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.720 have like ten times the number of viewers they do, 136 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:25.440 because at one point, Donut says that she has like 137 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:30.960 a trillion views. So, like, these are numbers that I 138 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.360 don't understand frankly and can't rent my head around. If 139 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:39.440 it's true that they are really not doing as well 140 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:44.279 as other players, I guess it would make sense that 141 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.200 we're trying to get rid of them, But I just 142 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.639 kind of thought they were doing better than it seems 143 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.039 like they must be. If we're already getting rid of them, 144 00:10:52.240 --> 00:11:00.320 you know what I'm saying. But I don't know. So see, 145 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.559 he says, do you know what the limit is? Yeah, 146 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:06.080 you've already hit it. It's five thousand. Is it like this? 147 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.960 Everywhere across the whole dungeon looks like it. It's to 148 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.480 keep people from camping out in one area for too long. 149 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.240 As long as you keep moving, it shouldn't be an issue. 150 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:19.879 So he checks in with Brandon and he's like, all right, 151 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.720 don't know, we got to get the hell out of here. 152 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:26.200 And when they first leave, they initially start trying to 153 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.799 kill the grubs in big groups, and then they start 154 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.240 to realize that these things can't really attack us, So 155 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:38.720 there's no point in wasting all of our like, because 156 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:43.039 he's using explosives and stuff, he's using dynamite, he's using 157 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:49.399 his uh what are they called the jug a bomb? 158 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:55.399 Jugga boom, jugga boom. Right, So it's possible that if 159 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.759 we just leave them alone, we can wade through them 160 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:04.519 no problem, except unfortunately it soon becomes clear that just 161 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:08.279 trying to wade through them is in itself an issue. 162 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:12.679 You can't exactly do that without smashing them under your feet, 163 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.120 so they wind up killing them without even intending to, 164 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:23.960 which results. Even like after they destroy the the corpses, 165 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.279 these things are still like munching away at like the 166 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.480 tiny little bits of scrap that are left, so it 167 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:41.559 winds up not helping or mattering at all. Carl, people 168 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.960 are getting bored with this by followers. Haven't gone up 169 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:48.240 in five minutes. For Fock's sake, do not. Don't worry. 170 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:53.000 I'm sure something awful is gonna happen any second. Why 171 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:58.320 did you have to say that. I saw the wall 172 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.120 of blue dots coming down the hall. It looked as 173 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.080 if it was all of them, so we went jogging 174 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.399 toward them. I stopped and laughed the moment I saw 175 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:11.159 the parade. They'd built a parade float, That's what it 176 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:14.000 looked like. They'd taken the wheels from multiple wheelchairs that 177 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.519 no longer had owners, and it fixed them to long 178 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.320 pieces of wood. I had no idea where the wooden 179 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.519 platforms had come from, but I knew Amani and Chris 180 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:24.600 both were as obsessive about looting everything as I was 181 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:28.399 using some of the Goblin tools they'd cobbled together the contraption. 182 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.559 Looking more closely, it was more like a train set 183 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.799 or a set of roller coaster cars. There were a 184 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.600 total of thirty nine people being pulled, most of them 185 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.279 sitting up on their own wheelchairs, which sat locked in 186 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.799 place two by two. Those who normally used walkers sat 187 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.480 cross legged on boards, watching wide eyed as they were 188 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.840 pulled along. The giant centipede was ten cars long, and 189 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:57.159 each section held four people. The individual cars were attached 190 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.679 to one another by a set of glowing metal chains. 191 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.320 The same chain attached Chris and Imani to the rest 192 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.240 of the train. It seemed as if it was one 193 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:10.080 chain running from Chris through all the cars and back 194 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:15.120 up to Amani. About three hundred feet long, and apparently 195 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.879 the chain is Immani's. It's a scroll called Yog's Special Chain. 196 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.080 She got it from some gold box. She could pick 197 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.120 any length up to something crazy like a thousand feet. 198 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.240 It's light as a feather, but the chain only lasts 199 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.519 thirty hours. The whole thing was her idea, though Brandon 200 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.080 designed it. He even added ramps so they can get 201 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:45.000 on and off easily. And this is when there's the 202 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:50.039 mention of the mind horrors. We went to clear them out. 203 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.240 Yolanda would shoot them from down the hallway, deflating them 204 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.840 before they could hurt us. The boss room was this 205 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:59.519 abandoned warehouse thing. The boss was a giant blimp. We 206 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.480 took it out pretty easily thanks to Yolanda. That's also 207 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.080 where we got all this wood. Did it come out 208 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.879 of its room? I gave him a quick recap of 209 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:12.240 what had happened with Kra Karen Christ Dude, our battle 210 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:16.559 was much easier. It never left its lair. They were 211 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.200 lucky to be alive, but I was glad they'd spent 212 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.840 the time training themselves. So that again feels like evidence 213 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:28.720 that Carl and Donut are being targeted in a particular way. 214 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.399 And I'm really curious because like, by the end of 215 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:35.399 this the person that they were put in touch with 216 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:40.679 to be their pr agent has been taken off their case. 217 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:44.399 I don't even know how to say it. They have 218 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.799 been put on a time out as like the Vibe, 219 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:51.399 which we don't know why, and I'm wondering if that 220 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.639 is related to them being targeted the way that they are. 221 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:01.559 I really don't know what to think about this. So 222 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:10.000 this is when el mcgibb comes up to him and 223 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.039 she calls him by name, and he's like, hey, he 224 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.320 remembered me. And she's looking at the like kind of 225 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.679 roller coaster style thing that they're being pulled on, and 226 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.000 she says, this reminds me of the Tunnel of Love. 227 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:25.200 Back in my time, my Berry and I used to 228 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.360 always go to the carnival. We eat the cotton candy 229 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.559 and throw darts at the balloons. We'd go in the 230 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.200 Tunnel of Love. Back then it was a boat. I'd 231 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.120 let him touch my boobs, but only on the outside 232 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.480 of my sweater. I loved my Berry, but he wasn't 233 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.559 the prettiest man to look at. If you were in 234 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:46.960 the Tunnel of Love with me, I'd have, like you 235 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:51.000 do more than touch them on the outside of my clothes. Uh. 236 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.240 I said, thank you. I couldn't think of a better response. 237 00:16:55.679 --> 00:17:00.320 The old woman cackled behind her. Yolanda barked with laughter. 238 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:15.480 You guys, oh god, that's funny. So he has a 239 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:20.160 moment here of just looking at this woman and realizing 240 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.720 how old she is, everything that she has been through 241 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:31.039 and all of a sudden, it becomes clear to him 242 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.839 we shouldn't have brought them through this far that actually 243 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:43.400 saving them like this isn't a kindness at all. It's 244 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:49.119 just drawing out the inevitable. And it's so hard to 245 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.079 say whether or not I agree with this, because, on 246 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.720 the one hand, a big part of me understands where 247 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.599 he's coming from from a purely practical perspective, and also 248 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.240 like the way that these people are having to live, 249 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.440 it's difficult for me to like feel like they're getting 250 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.039 anything out of this, just having to be dragged from 251 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.759 one place to another, getting attacked over and over again. 252 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:19.200 Like I'm not trying to say that they themselves have 253 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.599 nothing to offer. I am saying, like, what is it 254 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.160 that the world has to offer them at this point 255 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.759 when they aren't really even quite conscious of what's going on, 256 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:35.880 you know what I'm saying. So there's also, though an 257 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:41.319 argument to be made for whether or not you think 258 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.440 it's kind to them isn't really what's at issue here, 259 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.799 That like, you don't get to make that choice for them. 260 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.200 But if you don't and they don't know what's happening, 261 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.920 then who does Because then being given the agency to 262 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.839 make their own choice when they don't have a full 263 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.359 grasp of the situation. Doesn't really feel like total agency 264 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:06.400 to me in the first place. It's just it's a 265 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.720 difficult question, you know. And this is always going to 266 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.240 come up when it comes to people who are in 267 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.359 questionable control of their own faculties. And I don't think 268 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:17.960 there's ever like an easy answer or an answer that 269 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.319 applies to everybody. It's possible that there might be people 270 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:24.519 in this group that it would make more sense to 271 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.799 save than others, like he feels at this point, they 272 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:36.359 should have made them stay. And this is when Jack 273 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:43.799 yells out bring that pussy over here about donut, And 274 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.359 just as they are all turning to look at him, 275 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:54.319 this is when Carl is talking to Brandon, and Brandon says, hey, 276 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.880 thanks for helping us to your own detriment. You're a 277 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.599 good man, Carl says. If we get to the point 278 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:02.640 where we don't help each other anymore, that's when we 279 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.039 stopped being human. I felt something catch in my throat 280 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:11.559 and I coughed, zev admin, Carl, that was great. Can 281 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:13.720 you say that for me again, but this time, don't cough. 282 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:19.920 I stopped dead. My neck tingled with goosebumps. I knew 283 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:23.759 we were being watched and followed, but having someone actually 284 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.119 comment in my mind was one of the most unnerving 285 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:32.640 sensations I'd ever felt. Now, I was a little bit 286 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.640 confused by this because I was assuming from the way 287 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:39.759 this was written that it was he was like getting 288 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:41.799 this comment in the same way that he had been 289 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:48.119 talking on the chat to Donut, which granted, when you 290 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.519 were dealing with a different being that's not in your 291 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:53.880 party and they're able to comment in your mind, that's 292 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:58.200 still unnerving. But he's been talking to Brandon as well, 293 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.200 so I feel like this has got to be a 294 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:06.559 completely different method of talking. Like it almost sounds like 295 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:12.000 it came through as audio, but that's not the way 296 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:16.319 that it's written. It's written like it's text. So I'm 297 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:19.799 not totally sure if I'm getting this right. But and like, 298 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:23.039 either way, don't get me wrong, he has the right 299 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.000 to feel how he feels about this, and I'm not 300 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:30.039 mad at him either way. I'm just saying, if he 301 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.920 were going to react this strongly, I would have thought 302 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.559 that it would have come up earlier, or that what 303 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.119 he described as being fucked up about it would seem 304 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.880 really different than the way it's been already with Donut 305 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:51.279 and Brandon, So he says, no, I'm not going to 306 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.680 say it again. Have you been watching this whole time? 307 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:58.759 Zev admin, you and my other clients to save the 308 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:02.839 elderly storyline is playing great with most viewers. That said 309 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.559 about twenty percent things you're wasting time and being stupid 310 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.039 dead weight I think was the term some of them 311 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.440 have used, but most of them understand what you're doing. 312 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.000 Donut is right, However, it's a little dry. Maybe you 313 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.440 can oh shit, Oh fuck Carl, Donut, run run to 314 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:25.000 the safirm now, no Jack, Jack, no, Yolanda called. I 315 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.640 turned to see Jack Cincinnati Bengal's hat sitting cock eyed 316 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.480 on his head. He'd stood to his full height using 317 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:34.440 the wheelchair with Missus mcgibbons and Donut as a brace. 318 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.759 His pants were down to his ankles, dick out, pissing 319 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:41.599 directly on the wall. And I was just like fough, 320 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:49.400 I just really lost my shit here, Oh, Rob, says 321 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.880 Elle mcgibb equals Elle mcgibbons. Just in case this didn't 322 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:57.160 come across. It didn't in my first read. The Dungeon 323 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.720 assigns names to crawlers based on their entry tome, which 324 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.799 is why he's Carl and not Carl last name, but 325 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:08.039 also why Brandon is Brandon on and his brother is 326 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:13.559 Chris Andrews, which is a fun little touch. Oh, I 327 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:23.200 see what you're saying, Rob Okay, So thirty eight we 328 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:27.039 are dealing with this fucking thing that appears. They're only 329 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:31.200 one hundred feet from the safe room, so there's possible 330 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.039 time for them to get the fuck out of here. 331 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:44.440 Ylanda blows Jack's brains out. This is this is so sad. 332 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.319 It's I say, blows brains out like it was a gun. 333 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:53.920 It's an arrow. It's shooting either way whatever. I realized, 334 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:56.359 I was running, running toward the back of the train. 335 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.680 Behind me, Brandon shouted the safe room was only a 336 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.240 hundred feet away. Chris and Imani were already picking up speed. 337 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.279 The second man on the last car went flying off 338 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:09.200 the train as it lurched forward. He hit the ground 339 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:13.519 with a loud, painful crunch, his walker flying over his 340 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:20.160 head just as the monster appeared, and Carl yells for 341 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:27.400 Donut to run and sprints towards the thing. I could never. 342 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.559 I just couldn't. I'm not a hero, and that's just 343 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:35.839 that purple and black smoke kept hissing and spitting from 344 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:40.240 the wet stain on the wall. The monster coalesced, coming 345 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:45.440 into existence ten feet behind Yolanda and Randall, just above 346 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.880 the prone form of the now dead Jack. Yolanda hit 347 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.519 the monster with two arrows, and the shafts just shattered 348 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.640 against the smoke. It didn't even form a health bar, 349 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:03.079 indicating she'd done no damage way soever. The thing was 350 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:08.519 fifteen feet tall and just as wide, made of fulminating, 351 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:13.359 sizzling black and purple smoke. It had six legs, each 352 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.880 gleaming with obsidian claws the size of rakes. The claws 353 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.640 seemed to be the only corporeal parts of its body. 354 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.160 The legs were all the same, but the two forward 355 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:29.599 claws were longer, fingerlike with extra joints. A flickering, horned 356 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.640 skull sat amongst the smoky mass. Its eyes made of 357 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.599 glowing red fire that poured smoke. It was the skull 358 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.720 of some sort of animal, maybe a colossal badger, but 359 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:45.920 with curved goat like horns. It roared and the ground shook. 360 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:54.480 Rage Elemental level ninety three, and we get some info 361 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.640 basically telling them so so sorry for your losses that 362 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.200 are about to happen, and for your loss of your 363 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:04.720 life that's about to happen. But what can you do? 364 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:14.839 Winsa loose some donut activates her confusing fog, and it 365 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:21.119 spins toward them, and it takes out Yolanda and Randall, 366 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:26.000 And there's this very heartbreaking moment where Carl thinks about 367 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.440 how he wishes he had had a mother that was 368 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:34.839 like Yolanda. There was a warmth about her, something I'd 369 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.839 never felt as a kid. Just being in her presence 370 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.079 imparted a feeling of longing in me, something difficult to describe, 371 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.519 like I wished I could relive my childhood, but this 372 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.880 time I'd of her as my mother and she would 373 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:52.640 have never ever left me. Oh man, I don't feel 374 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.960 like I've met too many people that I've been like, 375 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.240 it would have been great to have these parents instead 376 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.759 of my parents. Like, you know, my parents had their issues, 377 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.599 but for the most part, I've been pretty satisfied with 378 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:13.400 them in general. And I just really wonder about this feeling. 379 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:15.559 And if anybody listening, if you've had this where you've 380 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.160 met somebody and been like, how do you get this 381 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.039 lucky to be this person's child, you know, Like I mean, 382 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.640 that's got to be a feeling that people have, and 383 00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:29.200 it's just really depressing. Imagine being a parent who lets 384 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.200 their kid down so completely. I really wonder what happened 385 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.440 to Carl's mom, because clearly she left him due to 386 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.759 his father's behavior, but the fact that she didn't bring 387 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.279 Karl with her is really awful. Like I don't you know, 388 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.720 there could potentially be some inxsenuating circumstances that would make 389 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.599 it understandable, but they'd have to be pretty extreme for 390 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.279 me to really understand it. It's this is the sort 391 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.000 of thing that I always run up against you guys. 392 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:02.119 It's like when there's a child involved in a situation 393 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.799 and you leave that child and only protect yourself. I 394 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.839 just genuinely don't know how you live with yourself. And 395 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.920 like I said, there are gonna be situations where this. 396 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:18.799 Once it's explained to me the extenuating circumstances, I might 397 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.720 be like, well, okay, I get it, but I have 398 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.000 a I don't even want to say a friend. There 399 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:30.599 is somebody that I know and they they are living 400 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.319 still with their very abusive husband, and the reasons for 401 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:39.599