Speaker 1: Brother man, good to see you again. First off, just congrats.
Speaker 1: You know it's a fellow fighter. I know how it
Speaker 1: is with those Uh.
Speaker 2: I did it, man, we did it.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: You hadn't fiught in like ten years, correct, ten.
Speaker 2: Years, bro, ten fucking years.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't realize you only had
Speaker 1: a two week two week notice, Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? Oh, I just wanted to retweet your thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They I took the fight on two weeks notice. I
Speaker 3: had no trainer, I had nowhere to train. I was
Speaker 3: training at a fucking like La Fitness by myself, hitting
Speaker 3: a bag, doing the stairs, doing like the StairMaster, on
Speaker 3: the bike running. I hit no pads, okay. I sparred
Speaker 3: once before the fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And even before that, like I hadn't I had not
Speaker 3: even trained in months.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's just not enough time. It's a fighter, you know.
Speaker 1: Someone sent me the video. I felt so bad. I
Speaker 1: wish I had gone out and trained with you. But
Speaker 1: I called you, and you're I can fighting tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I know, I know I wanted you to come, but
Speaker 3: at the time, like there was, there was not enough time, bro.
Speaker 3: There was not enough time for me to get the
Speaker 3: word out to everybody like I knew that. Even that
Speaker 3: was another reason I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: bother you because I uh, I knew there just there
Speaker 3: was no way to make it. Even if we were
Speaker 3: to train them, Like what do I got a week?
Speaker 3: Two weeks at the most.
Speaker 1: The reality is there's not really much we could have done.
Speaker 1: You can't really get shaped in that time because you're
Speaker 1: just gonna beat your body up. That's all you can
Speaker 1: do is hit pads a couple of times, light do
Speaker 1: a couple of light runs, and people like, oh, you
Speaker 1: look gassed, but yeah, no shit, you had to fight
Speaker 1: in a year. I bet your opponent was training. I
Speaker 1: think it was like an intentional set up my opinion.
Speaker 3: And yeah, no he dominated that way.
Speaker 4: What's that you completely dominated that fight. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you?
Speaker 3: Like dude, I hate all of these, all of these
Speaker 3: pretend like they know about fighting people. It's it's insane, dude,
Speaker 3: it's insane. I've seen so many people like, oh, he
Speaker 3: looked gassed. Oh I don't know if he won it
Speaker 3: was it was not close. It wasn't enough too.
Speaker 1: They kept saying you were gas which is true. But
Speaker 1: he kept falling over he was like he kept.
Speaker 3: Fighting over he like bent over in the corner, like
Speaker 3: with his hands on his knees, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He was exhausted and then and then he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: well I just laid down at the end of No.
Speaker 2: You did it, motherfucker. I cracked you right on the ear,
Speaker 2: all right. I cracked him right on the fucking ear.
Speaker 3: And then when I watched a fight, like, I hit
Speaker 3: him and then I actually held him up for a
Speaker 3: second because as I jabbed them and then I held
Speaker 3: them there. As soon as I let my hand go,
Speaker 3: that motherfucker fell down, like, dude, you're down. If I
Speaker 3: had done that like a few seconds before, they would
Speaker 3: have counted that shit as a knockdown.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're down to in a real fight, you
Speaker 1: could kick him in his face. If you're your face
Speaker 1: like that, like you're laying on your face, how could
Speaker 1: I think you're not down. You're like literally laying on
Speaker 1: your face like that, like getting up all slow, like
Speaker 1: you're down. You got knocked down. You threw him. Actually,
Speaker 1: I watched the fight with no volume in a restaurant,
Speaker 1: and I turned it off at any way for the decision,
Speaker 1: I thought it was just so clear, so obvious.
Speaker 2: I thought it was super clear.
Speaker 4: What are you guys talking about?
Speaker 1: Then I watched it again with the announcing last night,
Speaker 1: and it was insanity and purely insane. Especially at the end.
Speaker 1: They just started just going off, just shimping out, see
Speaker 1: it out, just freaking out like.
Speaker 2: They are they lost their minds.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Aiden apologized for the bad commentary, which
Speaker 3: I appreciate.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: Beyond that, like, I'm not gonna shoot on brand risk
Speaker 3: because they actually put on a very good show.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. They did. They had everything.
Speaker 2: Everything that I asked for, they was compliant with.
Speaker 3: They were very professional, uh for the only part that
Speaker 3: was not professional was the one face off that I
Speaker 3: had with the guy I was gonna fight before.
Speaker 2: And then like the commentary, But everything else was fine.
Speaker 3: They paid me on time.
Speaker 4: Hot fighters people like me and stuff.
Speaker 1: They brought in a bunch of it was like almost
Speaker 1: all black people, and they just started going crazy. There
Speaker 1: was one black guy cheering for you, which is funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles Charles White, I think his name was Uncle
Speaker 3: Rucas himself was the only one cheering me on. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean they.
Speaker 2: Had rampage up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they had Rampage and he like, look again,
Speaker 3: I'm not to say it again. I like, I've I
Speaker 3: was a fan of Rampage when I was younger, like
Speaker 3: he was. He's a fucking legend. You can't take anything
Speaker 3: with him as a fighter. So when he was doing
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, come on.
Speaker 4: Man, I thought it was weird with Rampage.
Speaker 1: But I think it was a racial thing because I'm actually
Speaker 1: kind of friends with the Rampage and he did a
Speaker 1: terrible job.
Speaker 4: I think it's the race thing.
Speaker 3: You know, it is the I know it's the race thing.
Speaker 3: I know it's the race thing, and it's but look,
Speaker 3: it's fine.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: We went into their house and I've never fought boxing before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a I think that's that's very important you
Speaker 1: point that out. You are a kickboxer by your stance,
Speaker 1: it's very apparent you're like a tie boxer. The way
Speaker 1: you move is for knees and kicks. Your stance was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of tie boxing stance, not a boxing stance.
Speaker 1: It's totally different because you follow up with kicks knees.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't need or kicked him in the face so
Speaker 1: many times. If it was if it was Oh my.
Speaker 3: God, did you know how hard it was? Like I
Speaker 3: was trying. I was controlling myself so well. Like there
Speaker 3: were times that I had him in the clinch and
Speaker 3: if when you notice when I clinched with him, like
Speaker 3: it was an immediate tie clinch, and I was breaking
Speaker 3: his posture because that's the way I'm trained. Like I
Speaker 3: wanted to knee him so many times. And if I
Speaker 3: would have need him once or twice like that, that
Speaker 3: fight would have been over in the first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If I was able to knee or kick him, that
Speaker 3: shit would have been done.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If people don't realize boxing is not your sport, Like
Speaker 1: I guys has to be a box sometimes. I'm an
Speaker 1: MMA fighter. I'm a grabtler kicker. I'm not that great
Speaker 1: of a boxer. Yeah, beat a lot of people boxing,
Speaker 1: but like I'm a I'm a great fighter. I can
Speaker 1: actually fight. Boxing's not my sport.
Speaker 3: Boxing is. Look, I respect boxing. It is still the
Speaker 3: sweet science no matter what. But it's not a full fight, no,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you can only hit the person
Speaker 3: from the waist up. You know, You're so limited. And
Speaker 3: it was definitely a really big adjustment for me, and
Speaker 3: I had to do it on the fly, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, while I was in the ring with
Speaker 3: no training. I mean, I'm sure that like if I
Speaker 3: took six months and like just did boxing, I would
Speaker 3: probably be pretty good at it.
Speaker 4: Have your stands would have been to a boxing Yeah.
Speaker 2: Everything would have been, dude. I was I'm standing like
Speaker 2: fucking tie. I'm like, I'm doing long guard the whole time.
Speaker 2: Parry and shots, dude.
Speaker 3: There was one point where like I threw a big
Speaker 3: body shot, I missed right and then I quickly turned,
Speaker 3: I recovered. He throws a big haymaker. I block it,
Speaker 3: and then the crowd and the and the combers, I'm like.
Speaker 1: What, I think that's a great point. I only saw
Speaker 1: two punches hit you. He threw some huge haymakers, but
Speaker 1: they were missing, Like miss shots don't count. I think
Speaker 1: it was the head being like, oh what do you
Speaker 1: throw a huge He had He was better than expected.
Speaker 1: He had some good overhands, he he had heart. He
Speaker 1: was gassed, and he didn't quit and he wanted to quit.
Speaker 1: You can tell he wanted to quit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he wanted to quit. He wanted to quit.
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of times that like he there
Speaker 3: was one body shot that he hit me. He threw
Speaker 3: everything he had, everything he had into it, and I
Speaker 3: just stood there like whatever walked through it. And then
Speaker 3: I saw it on his face like he was like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, Like what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 2: I gave him my best and he's still standing here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never looked phased at all. He fell down
Speaker 1: like five or six times. I just don't know what reality.
Speaker 1: It just shows you how much commentators can switch the crowd.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know it's funny.
Speaker 3: People thought, like the when he fell down, I really
Speaker 3: only pushed him off me once. The other two times
Speaker 3: I leaned on him because I was trying to gas
Speaker 3: him out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put my weight on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just fell because he was flopping. He
Speaker 3: was trying to get the ref to take a point
Speaker 3: away from me because he knew he was losing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should lose a point for doing that. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's such like a bitch move.
Speaker 3: Come, it's fucking crazy because I watched the fight like
Speaker 3: a hundred times now and I'm like, yo, he's flopping.
Speaker 2: He's doing this on purpose.
Speaker 3: And then like telling the ref get him off me,
Speaker 3: like and then the commentators take a point, take a
Speaker 3: take a point for what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he flopped on the ground.
Speaker 1: I watched it twice once commentary went without and you
Speaker 1: just clearly want you were landing clean. The shots I
Speaker 1: saw like maybe two shots graze you. Everything was missing,
Speaker 1: like people were like out of their minds, dude.
Speaker 3: There were so many shots that people like they don't
Speaker 3: understand the concept of rolling with it. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 3: seen them coming and I was like, it's and I knew.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's gonna kind of glance me. So I
Speaker 3: rolled with it and it rolled right off my chin
Speaker 3: and it didn't land clean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But my shots you could see I'm popping his head exactly.
Speaker 3: You were like popping it. Is like I'm fucking nailing
Speaker 3: uppercut hook. I'm backing them into the corner, jab jab,
Speaker 3: Like he was on the ropes the whole time.
Speaker 2: I don't know what world that people were living in.
Speaker 2: It was very strange.
Speaker 4: It's purely the commentators.
Speaker 1: I think the shows you people don't like, people don't
Speaker 1: really know fighting that well, which you can't blame him.
Speaker 4: It's not what they do.
Speaker 1: So me and you did for years. You know, I
Speaker 1: did it full time for like twenty years. We understand
Speaker 1: the sport of a deep knowledge. These guys don't watch it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna listen to the commentators, and the commentators towards
Speaker 1: the end they even got worse. They all just sort
Speaker 1: of freaking out on you, going it to robbery. I
Speaker 1: feel like.
Speaker 4: Aiden was kind of just following I talked. Well, actually
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: He was too, because I think he knew, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Aiden, I think had a very clear, like not that
Speaker 3: he knows fighting that well, but he's seen enough of
Speaker 3: these brand risk fights to know. And I think he
Speaker 3: was just going along with the crowd and with the
Speaker 3: other commentators, which is fine.
Speaker 1: But towards the end he wasn't really like this thing
Speaker 1: he knew, and then they started saying you lost, and
Speaker 1: he just went with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know he did.
Speaker 3: And look the way I look at it, he had
Speaker 3: no choice because after my fun I could leave. He
Speaker 3: had to stay there with all of the you know,
Speaker 3: with all of those people. So if he would have
Speaker 3: been like against them, it would have been kind of
Speaker 3: hard for him.
Speaker 1: That's true. It was all the whole crowd was almost
Speaker 1: all black.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the whole crowd was pretty much black. There
Speaker 3: was a few white people mixed in, but mostly black.
Speaker 2: And then just the whole aura, the whole like feeling
Speaker 2: the energy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: When I walked out, nobody nobody clapped, nobody cheered, nothing.
Speaker 3: Everybody was just looking at me, like, Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 3: fucking do a drive by on this motherfucker the very
Speaker 3: second we get him outside in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a real thing you'd have to worry
Speaker 1: about though, you know that could happen.
Speaker 4: That's a real reality you have to think about a
Speaker 4: crowd like that.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, I mean it was definitely. You know they
Speaker 2: wanted me. I'll tell you this, like because I was.
Speaker 3: I was planning the whole thing, Like when they when
Speaker 3: I accepted the fight, and they wanted me to be
Speaker 3: the main event, and I said no, and they asked
Speaker 3: me why, and I didn't tell them. But I'll tell
Speaker 3: you why not Because I knew that if I'm the
Speaker 3: main event, I'm gonna be the last fight. And then
Speaker 3: when I get out, like all of the crowd is
Speaker 3: gonna be in the street. You understand, and then it's
Speaker 3: gonna be called. I'm like, there could be an issue
Speaker 3: when I'm because I was like, oh, I'm gonna win.
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna win. I can do this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're gonna lose their ship.
Speaker 3: So if I'm the main event, I'm gonna get out
Speaker 3: and someone's gonna try me in the parking lot. Someone
Speaker 3: is gonna is gonna escalate. So I was like, no,
Speaker 3: give me the co main event. That way, there's one
Speaker 3: more fight, so I could do my fight, pack my ship,
Speaker 3: and then get in my car and I can go home,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean without incident. So that's the
Speaker 3: way I plan it that have a lot of people
Speaker 3: ask me, like why I wasn't the main event and
Speaker 3: I could know the event?
Speaker 1: That makes sense because No, that was really smart because
Speaker 1: you were actually in danger with those people.
Speaker 3: They oh, yeah it was I knew I was in danger.
Speaker 3: I was gonna dude, I was behind enemy lines. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll tell you this, brother, Like I know,
Speaker 3: I'm a little insane because there's not a lot of
Speaker 3: people who would have went to a place that they
Speaker 3: know everybody hates them, everybody wants them to lose. They're
Speaker 3: gonna do everything they can to so they can make
Speaker 3: you lose. You're in a hostile crowd and go and fight,
Speaker 3: beat up one of their guys, take their money, and
Speaker 3: then leave like there's not a lot of guys that
Speaker 3: are gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I I risked it all, man, I gambled it
Speaker 3: all and we won. I was the villain the whole time.
Speaker 3: And I fucking loved it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I've fought in Brazil before, the same thing,
Speaker 1: versus a Brazilian guy in their hometown and they're just
Speaker 1: literally chanting, you will die, just you will die.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love just like the fuck you get out of there.
Speaker 1: It's a It's great man. I was just I met you,
Speaker 1: like a little a year ago or something. I've just
Speaker 1: been so happy for your success, I realized. And you
Speaker 1: have just propelled to like you're like a legit celebrity.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: During the UFC was on and everyone's talking about your fight,
Speaker 1: not the UFC.
Speaker 2: No way, that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's why I go, Wow, you are like big about
Speaker 1: your fight, not the UFC fight, And the UFC is
Speaker 1: like my world. And it's like I don't. I think
Speaker 1: the numbers probably blew the UC numbers.
Speaker 3: We wait that night, that's yeah. Oh man, I look,
Speaker 3: I don't want to toot my own horner or anything,
Speaker 3: but those numbers were crazy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I had I had like twelve thousand people watching on
Speaker 3: my platform Crusaders dot gg alone nice, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So I don't even know what it was
Speaker 3: on Kick And then I heard that after after my fight,
Speaker 3: like their viewership just.
Speaker 2: Went way way down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I turned it off. They I turned it off
Speaker 1: before years. I was like watching it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't watch this garbage. I kept checking and then
Speaker 1: I had checked my fifteen minutes. I pulled it up
Speaker 1: and you were in the ring, and oh shit, you
Speaker 1: know almost mystics.
Speaker 4: I couldn't just watch that garbage anymore.
Speaker 3: But I know there was some. There was some pretty
Speaker 3: like like not so good fights. The pros were very good,
Speaker 3: Like they had a bunch of pro guys on who
Speaker 3: were very good. Like. I watched some of it in
Speaker 3: the back and I was like, yeah, easy.
Speaker 1: There was some I should hit on. There was actually
Speaker 1: some decent. I did to see a couple of good boxes.
Speaker 1: I think it just because I turned it on five
Speaker 1: and like nothing was going on. So I'm the idiot
Speaker 1: that turned it on too early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was that no neck fight that
Speaker 3: was like garbage. But the Garcia fight was good. That
Speaker 3: fight was good. Uh. The Katrina fight with that other
Speaker 3: girl was pretty good. She Katrina Laws, but she you know,
Speaker 3: she was the sweetest girl. She was the only one
Speaker 3: who spoke to me at the at the during the
Speaker 3: entire thing, like all the other fighters hated me, and
Speaker 3: it was like just her, she was the only one
Speaker 3: who was nice.
Speaker 1: Why was it so many black people and black fighters?
Speaker 4: That's what aiden? I guess he's a jay.
Speaker 3: Because he's a tiny hat person, and uh, I guess
Speaker 3: that's just the route that they want to go. But
Speaker 3: I also think that because I was there, that that's
Speaker 3: why they did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you think? Okay, you have no social
Speaker 1: or no big social media other than Twitter, you're banned
Speaker 1: on YouTube, band on Twitch. You've crossed it into a
Speaker 1: mainstream celebrity. Like, how did that happen? It just seems
Speaker 1: so bizarre and impossible. The only other person that's done
Speaker 1: something simily would be Nick Fintes.
Speaker 3: Well, I worked at it, man. It was a lot
Speaker 3: of work, a lot of sacrifice, a lot of time.
Speaker 3: I mean, I and not only that, I just have
Speaker 3: the most amazing fans. Like the fans are the ones
Speaker 3: who make it possible, you know, because, like you said,
Speaker 3: I'm banned everywhere, so I'm counting on the my my
Speaker 3: people to take my stuff and post it on the
Speaker 3: main platforms and it goes viral, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: The clips go everywhere and people love them and people
Speaker 3: send them to their friends.
Speaker 2: And then that's how like I my.
Speaker 3: Like stardom is completely grassroot, you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: completely organic. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: There was nothing else behind it. It was just my.
Speaker 3: Hard work and the the awesome like just the awesome fans. Man,
Speaker 3: they love me, and I love them.
Speaker 1: People really like you. I have so many of my
Speaker 1: friends will like DM me stuff about you or ask questions.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this guy's like popular. And even like
Speaker 1: a lot of brown people and even some black people,
Speaker 1: they at least respect you because you're not scared, you're authentic,
Speaker 1: you stand up to them. They're like, you know, this
Speaker 1: guy's got balls. That's what I've noticed, Like surprised how
Speaker 1: many minorities like don't hate you, like some probably want
Speaker 1: to shoot you.
Speaker 3: But some are like, oh yeah, I'm in look any right.
Speaker 3: They can't deny that I'm funny. They can't deny that
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is the truth. And I think that
Speaker 3: a lot of them have to on some level, like
Speaker 3: you said, like they respect it because I just like
Speaker 3: he I just don't care, Like I just don't give
Speaker 3: a fuck. There's what are you gonna do? Like, what
Speaker 3: are you gonna do to me that hasn't already been done?
Speaker 3: And I'm even though a despite all of that stuff
Speaker 3: happening to me, I'm still here. Yeah, I don't go anywhere.
Speaker 4: You have been.
Speaker 1: You went through such a rough patch in your life
Speaker 1: a lot of for most people watching probably know.
Speaker 4: But like you were in prison for.
Speaker 1: Basically racism and TIFA attached you. You had just had
Speaker 1: a broad deal. Life was this down, down, down negative.
Speaker 1: You're a different place in life right now.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's just like positive things keep itting you must be
Speaker 1: like you can almost feel like a glow off you
Speaker 1: now with more of a positive view of life.
Speaker 2: It's peaks and valleys.
Speaker 3: My friend I was in aw right, I was in
Speaker 3: a Valley for quite a long time. But by the
Speaker 3: grace of God and you know a little bit of luck,
Speaker 3: things have really turned around.
Speaker 2: And I'm in a very good place now.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm still how can I say it, I
Speaker 3: still have all of the grit and I still have
Speaker 3: all of the sheer will that I had when I started.
Speaker 3: None of that has changed. The only thing that's changed
Speaker 3: now really is like I'm in a better space, like
Speaker 3: financially and I'm in a better spot as far as
Speaker 3: you know, being able to get my content out there.
Speaker 3: It's a little easier, but everything else is the same, Like,
Speaker 3: I still have nothing my beliefs that will never change.
Speaker 3: I stand by what I what I what I say,
Speaker 3: and uh, that's never gonna that's never gonna go away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem to make a super principled, you know, discipline,
Speaker 1: respectful like I liked you right away as soon as
Speaker 1: and I liked you too with this guy, like I
Speaker 1: could just.
Speaker 4: See you're a real one.
Speaker 1: There's not very many people like that, especially in the influencers.
Speaker 1: A lot of the influencers the worst people. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you figure that out too. And it's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy is a real guy, which is, which is rare.
Speaker 1: Even I hit you up last week like, oh, it'd
Speaker 1: be cool to get a victory stream, Like yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: I'll do the victory stream with you. First, you were
Speaker 1: the only what I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: You were the only one I wanted to do with.
Speaker 3: There were some other people asked me and I said no.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk to you. And because I knew, I knew eventually
Speaker 3: like you, I knew you were busy, but I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna do is, I want to do it
Speaker 3: with Jake like that.
Speaker 2: He's my friend.
Speaker 3: I know he's gonna give me a fairsh and I
Speaker 3: love his audience and I know they love me, so
Speaker 3: I want I wanted to do it with you.
Speaker 1: No. I really appreciate that because it's all about friendships
Speaker 1: all by helping each other out. And like right away,
Speaker 1: you're like trying to help me. And you have such
Speaker 1: a bad reputation. Well, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: actually do know you're a good person, which is why
Speaker 1: you're so popular. But like the reputation, I have a couple.
Speaker 3: It's in there, it's deep down in there.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere almost super chest coming in. By the way,
Speaker 1: people send, well, you can send negative ship I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna read them, So send a bunch of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just send go ahead, send the negative comments. Send
Speaker 2: it with money.
Speaker 1: My bully is black and Jewish? What should I do?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: You have to answer that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Wait? What did he say?
Speaker 1: He said his bully is he has a black and
Speaker 1: Jewish bully. What should he do?
Speaker 2: Learned to find as a black and Jewish bully? Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, what I would say is I was a get
Speaker 3: your ass to a muy TI or BJJ or MMA Jim,
Speaker 3: train your ass off, and you know the you know
Speaker 3: the best way to stop a bully, You give him
Speaker 3: a bloody nose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best way to stop.
Speaker 1: Theyre the only thing they respect. That was buck breaking
Speaker 1: for the ages. Yeah, good as the joker came out
Speaker 1: as a Roman centurion. Yeah no, that was just like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, like that's that. I couldn't believe the
Speaker 1: hype around it. It's a lot of pressure too. Last
Speaker 1: thing about the fight, but the pressure, I think that's
Speaker 1: really important to add the drevenaline. You had a lot
Speaker 1: of weight on you. It was like a whole. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought you it was about culture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because the pressure
Speaker 3: I felt it. You know, I had a whole movement
Speaker 3: and a whole race, and the whole everybody was counting
Speaker 3: on me, you know what I mean, everybody was counting me.
Speaker 3: Like you said, it was for the culture, and going
Speaker 3: into it, I knew that, so I knew I could.
Speaker 3: Like there, I was like, I cannot lose. There's just
Speaker 3: no way. So like that was the biggest, like one
Speaker 3: of the biggest, because he had no pressure on him,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that was like virtually none.
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Everybody thought he was gonna lose, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: But but he had no real pressure from his community,
Speaker 3: Like he's just another random monkey. If he would have lost,
Speaker 3: they would have put some other guy in there to
Speaker 3: try to get it, so it didn't matter, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. But for me, there's only one me,
Speaker 3: so like I had to I had to do well.
Speaker 3: And then I had a game plan. I stuck to
Speaker 3: the game plan the entire time, and we came out
Speaker 3: with the win, you know, And but it was hard,
Speaker 3: like the the the sixteen ounce gloves. I don't think
Speaker 3: a lot of people know that that's what they made
Speaker 3: us wear.
Speaker 1: You had sixteens on him. Yes, that's for fights, that's
Speaker 1: what that's what we spar in. When you're like, that's
Speaker 1: what I said, gloves when you're trying not to hurt
Speaker 1: your partner, you know exactly.
Speaker 4: But that's like the biggest sparking gloves.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest sparing So they made us fight with
Speaker 3: sixteen ounds gloves and that, Like I see people like
Speaker 3: Fuentes and some other people, they're like, oh, why didn't
Speaker 3: he just knock them out? I'm like, do you know
Speaker 3: how hard it is to knock somebody out with sixteen
Speaker 3: ounds gloves on?
Speaker 2: The glove is like that much off your fist?
Speaker 1: Yeah, car, he kept dipping. You're a movie tige fighter.
Speaker 1: You're used to throwing knees when guys are dipping. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're a boxer, you look for uppercuts this up. But
Speaker 1: boxing isn't what you do. You're a movie high fighter.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't need him in the face. So many
Speaker 1: times that must have been oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It was very hard to control that impulse to to
Speaker 3: not need him. And then So the game plan for
Speaker 3: me was and my younger brother helped me. God bless
Speaker 3: my younger brother. Dude, like I had no one to
Speaker 3: corner me.
Speaker 1: Damn, I reach out to me if you ever need anything,
Speaker 1: by the way, and like, no, I'm not asking.
Speaker 2: It is not you. I couldn't. There was no way
Speaker 2: for me to get you there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I knew it, and I was like, I wanted to
Speaker 3: call you, but I was like if I asked him,
Speaker 3: like there's no time, Like I don't know what he's doing,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna interrupt them in I'm gonna tell him to
Speaker 3: come here, and dude, I can't. I don't want to
Speaker 3: bother him. So my brother did it, and you know,
Speaker 3: me and him talked about it and he was and
Speaker 3: you know, I explained to him what I wanted to do,
Speaker 3: and he agreed with me. So my game plan was
Speaker 3: don't do not try to knock him out in the
Speaker 3: first round, Like, don't try, because if I try and
Speaker 3: we have these big gloves on and I don't get it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna gas out and then I'm gonna be shot
Speaker 3: for the rest of the fight.
Speaker 2: So my plan was.
Speaker 3: Pressure him forward, cut the ring off, keep touching him,
Speaker 3: keep touching him, keep touching them, Pile up points, put
Speaker 3: good combinations together, hit him clean, clean, cause I knew
Speaker 3: he was wild, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 3: was like, his shots are gonna be like very glancing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna block a lot of them. And as long
Speaker 3: as I'm moving forward and keep touching him and putting
Speaker 3: him in the corners and putting him on the ropes,
Speaker 3: I should win. And I was like, I'm knowing, I
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna go to distance because and the only
Speaker 3: way I'm gonna get try to go for the knockout
Speaker 3: is if I hurt him bad and I could finish it.
Speaker 3: And like I heard him a bunch of times, like
Speaker 3: I rocked him a bunch of times, But it wasn't
Speaker 3: like with the gloves.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm like he's rocked, but.
Speaker 4: With sixteens, Like had I know you're wearing sixteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wearing I got the gloves upstairs. There's
Speaker 3: sixteen fucking ounce gloves. It's crazy, I.
Speaker 1: Think heavyweight to use the fight with what tens? You
Speaker 1: fight with eight fighters do four ounce gloves? But to
Speaker 1: never go over ten?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: No, But apparently an amateur boxing or semi professional boxing
Speaker 3: is like is what we did? The rules are that
Speaker 3: you could fight without gear, but you have to have
Speaker 3: sixteen ounce gloves on. If you're fighting with gear like
Speaker 3: ahead gear on it, then you could wear.
Speaker 1: The Yeah that's today. I don't think they and said
Speaker 1: that in the commentator. I didn't hear that. That's like
Speaker 1: that should be mentioned to the crowd, like, hey, they
Speaker 1: have sixteen ounce gloves, the sparring gloves.
Speaker 4: These are typical fighting gloves.
Speaker 2: No, they're not.
Speaker 3: And I don't think I don't think a lot of
Speaker 3: people knew that. You know, I didn't say anything about
Speaker 3: it because well I was under the impression that the
Speaker 3: crowd knew and people knew. But I guess they did it.
Speaker 3: But that was the case here.
Speaker 4: I listened to announcing last night.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that mentioned, and like, I guess it
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't register to a non fighter like half right, right,
Speaker 1: big the deal that is like really hard to knok
Speaker 1: when out was sixty ounce gloves.
Speaker 3: It's hard and then you're you're less accurate, you know,
Speaker 3: because you the weight of the it's a pound on
Speaker 3: each hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could just like cover like this and
Speaker 1: the gloves won't go through it teaches like some nice guys,
Speaker 1: that's far too much with the big gloves and mma,
Speaker 1: it could teaches them bad habits because they could just
Speaker 1: tuck the gloves in and you can go right through
Speaker 1: the middle.
Speaker 4: With small gloves, you can go right through the middle.
Speaker 2: Of it, right right.
Speaker 3: People People have no idea, dude, They have no concept
Speaker 3: of how fighting really is. They think that, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you could just like someone, dude, you're fighting,
Speaker 3: your adrenaline is pumping, there's pressure, the lights are there, like,
Speaker 3: there's millions of people watching a fight like this, and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of aspects to it. And I have
Speaker 3: to give myself a little bit of credit just because
Speaker 3: like the mental toughness, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 3: I had to have to go into this and come
Speaker 3: out on top was I mean, really unbelievable, something to
Speaker 3: be really proud of. And I owe it all. I
Speaker 3: owe it all to my training, my multi training for
Speaker 3: the years that I did it, the time in prison.
Speaker 3: Really it hardens you as an individual. And I, as
Speaker 3: much as I hated prison, like it did change me
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways where a lot of things
Speaker 3: like you. I could handle certain amounts of pressure, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that pressure, a lot of people can't deal with it.
Speaker 1: Some people they can be good in the gym, but
Speaker 1: they can't deal with that kind of pressure. Especially your fight.
Speaker 1: You'd almost the most pressure ever. I've had huge pressure,
Speaker 1: like going to Brazil GSP, but you had an entire.
Speaker 4: Culture on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: That's yes, that's unimaginable, Like I don't know like anyone
Speaker 1: that's dealt with that. That's like a different type of
Speaker 1: weight you had on your shoulder. And there's little haters,
Speaker 1: but mostly people were just completely excited and thrilled afterwards.
Speaker 1: It was like a victure we really needed right now too.
Speaker 2: I was happy to do it for us, man, it was.
Speaker 3: It'll be one of my proudest moments of my life
Speaker 3: that I was able to get this win for the
Speaker 3: culture against two communities that hate us, They cannot stand
Speaker 3: us and want to see our downfall.
Speaker 1: They made it clear that they hate you. There was
Speaker 1: no denying.
Speaker 3: That, no, not even but I'm happy they did it.
Speaker 3: I'm happy they did it. My dad said it. He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, like I got back last night and we
Speaker 3: were talking about it. He's like they showed their true
Speaker 3: colors bowl. He's like, you made them show how much
Speaker 3: they hate our people, and that alone is a real
Speaker 3: eye opener for a lot.
Speaker 2: So you did that.
Speaker 1: So I hated. I think his dad bade him like apologize.
Speaker 1: He said his dad called him and basically said he
Speaker 1: was being a little bitch. That's you know, when when
Speaker 1: for the j dad, you know, there's good moments sometimes.
Speaker 2: Apparently his dad is not Jewish.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, he would still be a fool though.
Speaker 1: The way it works, right, wait for the dad, then
Speaker 1: for the dad.
Speaker 3: And his dad apparently is like a fan, which is
Speaker 3: kind of cool.
Speaker 1: So Ad looked really bad, but it looked like he
Speaker 1: was more just following to me and I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to a once.
Speaker 4: He seemed like a super nice I'm not going to
Speaker 4: sit here in bashi, you know.
Speaker 3: Like he did. Look but despite the commentary and that
Speaker 3: ridiculous face off, things like he paid me on time, yep,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there was no I and
Speaker 3: the other thing too, like like that whole there's this
Speaker 3: whole thing like oh it's rig like it's not dude,
Speaker 3: it's not like people are don't be ridiculous. If it
Speaker 3: was rigged, then I should have lost, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: You also can't rig with the commission to some almost impossible.
Speaker 3: Because you can't. People don't know that ship.
Speaker 4: I think it was all like Hispanic names by the
Speaker 4: way too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all they were all like Mexican or something,
Speaker 3: Diaz and Garcia or something.
Speaker 4: I can't went against you.
Speaker 1: He must not have liked you, too, because I don't
Speaker 1: see how anyone that actually understands fighting could watch that.
Speaker 3: Say you Yeah, I thought that too. I look at
Speaker 3: those scorecard, I'm like, what what the fuck was he watching?
Speaker 2: But I was like whatever, I was thinking you won
Speaker 2: every round?
Speaker 1: Like what delusional world were they watching?
Speaker 2: I thought I won every round that you.
Speaker 1: Did for sure, not for debate. It was just these
Speaker 1: people that hated you were making ship up, you know,
Speaker 1: like different, and people are just start going with it
Speaker 1: if like, well the announcers are saying it. It was
Speaker 1: like these announcers other than Rampage, which I like Rampage,
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna bash him. I don't like he
Speaker 1: did a good job here, but we've been friends. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't like love white people.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't. He's true to me with respect. That's all
Speaker 4: I can ask.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, you know, when I listened to the commentary,
Speaker 3: Rampage really was like he wasn't saying a lot, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, He wasn't because.
Speaker 2: I think he knew what he knew exactly, so he
Speaker 2: just did.
Speaker 3: He was trying to stay like neutral as possible, but
Speaker 3: like there was a few times when he kind of
Speaker 3: got emotional with it.
Speaker 2: But I understand, you know, he.
Speaker 3: Was black brothers whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't really you can understand why you said
Speaker 1: a few things a little antagonistic, yeahs. With these people,
Speaker 1: it really made it understand what you've seen. You've seen
Speaker 1: just filk beyond what both both people don't live around
Speaker 1: the area in these cultures. You've seen it, the worst
Speaker 1: of the worst, and it's it's disgusting what you see,
Speaker 1: how to imagine.
Speaker 2: I've seen it in my time living in New York.
Speaker 3: I've seen some of the most heinous, grotesque, uh degenerate
Speaker 3: nonsense from that community. And then going to prison, you
Speaker 3: see the worst. Like I seen people, dude. I see
Speaker 3: people get stabbed, I see people get jumped. I heard
Speaker 3: people I heard about people getting raped. It was a
Speaker 3: lot of them. It was a lot of their community
Speaker 3: doing it. And you know, I seen one guy like
Speaker 3: just stab this other dude like for all because he
Speaker 3: was in the wrong pod, Like they put him in
Speaker 3: a wrong because he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy, you know.
Speaker 3: And I seen another guy get hit in the face
Speaker 3: with a with a lock in a sock because they
Speaker 3: wanted to steal this white guy's phone. Like this white
Speaker 3: guy had a phone and they wanted to steal it
Speaker 3: from him. They jumped him in the bathroom smacked him
Speaker 3: in the face with with because they give you like
Speaker 3: a like a a dial lock that you could buy
Speaker 3: on commissary for the clock your ship up. And he
Speaker 3: put that. These these three fucking black guys went and
Speaker 3: did they fucking hit him. They tried to stab him
Speaker 3: for a phone, for a phone.
Speaker 1: They do this in the streets. You know, I used
Speaker 1: to live in the barrier that was like comtman. They
Speaker 1: just attack people in the streets for their phones. And
Speaker 1: they'd be let out like the same day, like there's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's no a big deal. It's like, yeah, it is
Speaker 1: a big deal. So like attacking a girl and taking
Speaker 1: their phone you know, someone were in Oakland, some girl
Speaker 1: died getting like dragged try to getting her phone, and
Speaker 1: the guy he got a called months in jail or
Speaker 1: something because they're like, well, you know he grew up.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a social economic factors they make like, no,
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to leave the barriers. I think people
Speaker 1: are insane. They're letting, they're burning down the own city.
Speaker 1: They don't want the same rules. They want to be
Speaker 1: treated differently.
Speaker 4: They're not asked.
Speaker 2: Did you hear what they after the fight? After the fight? Right?
Speaker 2: The first of all, they didn't give me a post.
Speaker 3: Fight interview, like they're supposed to interview me, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're supposed to interview you like in the ring.
Speaker 2: They did it for all the other fighters, and you.
Speaker 1: Were like the main event, I know, officially coming and
Speaker 1: you're clearly the main event, and they did interview.
Speaker 4: That's bizarre.
Speaker 2: They didn't interview me in the ring.
Speaker 3: They they interviewed me very briefly, like when I got
Speaker 3: back towards the dressing room.
Speaker 2: But they're supposed to do it in the ring, you
Speaker 2: know how it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's they always do that for a
Speaker 1: big fight. They never don't interview the person one ever.
Speaker 3: And the reason that they didn't do it was because
Speaker 3: the guy who does the interview, some black monkey, didn't
Speaker 3: want to do it. He was like, I'm not interviewing him,
Speaker 3: and then they should him on the spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should fire him.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm not interviewing him and then uh,
Speaker 3: like right when when I won, the guy who does
Speaker 3: the interviews like, this is why we tear shit up.
Speaker 3: This is why we tear shit up. Look how they
Speaker 3: do us blah blah blah. Like, dude, look how they
Speaker 3: do what you lost? You lost? It was a it's undeniable,
Speaker 3: like do a punch, count do whatever you want, watch
Speaker 3: it in slow motion. You're you guys are just completely
Speaker 3: incapable of taking and out like you are the sorest
Speaker 3: losers ever. But that's their thing, Like they're one of
Speaker 3: their biggest weaknesses is their pride, you know, and pride
Speaker 3: only hurts. Yeah.
Speaker 1: On our first interview, I think he went like about
Speaker 1: a five minute in rant about that. I asked, do
Speaker 1: you think we could live together? I just your rant
Speaker 1: was so fun. I just started laughing and changed the subjects.
Speaker 1: I remember two other interviews up in here, Steve More
Speaker 1: superchats came in Gypsy inspired me to try.
Speaker 4: But we did this fun day. Also.
Speaker 1: I love the dynamic between you two guys. Keep it up,
Speaker 1: Thank you, love, and then let's see another one. Hey Paul,
Speaker 1: congrats on winning the fight. Have you ever thought of
Speaker 1: doing Brandon Lee's The Crow for one of your streams?
Speaker 1: I think that character as close to your life story
Speaker 1: as a joker, adymption, unfair tragedy.
Speaker 4: I don't know the Crow story that well.
Speaker 3: But you never watched that movie.
Speaker 4: I did when it first came out. I need to
Speaker 4: rewatch it.
Speaker 3: Actually the original one would bring in the lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but didn't watch it.
Speaker 1: I'll go watch it. It's worth watching.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, I love it. It's it's a great
Speaker 3: It's definitely a cult film. A lot of it's not
Speaker 3: a cult following, but the thing with the everybody, A
Speaker 3: lot of people tell.
Speaker 2: Me I look like Brandon Lee. A lot of people
Speaker 2: say that to me.
Speaker 3: I see the resemblance, so like, I get it, and
Speaker 3: they people have been asking me to do that character
Speaker 3: for some time, and it does make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: He has a very tragic story, kind of like my own.
Speaker 3: The only reason I never did it was because I
Speaker 3: figured if I did it and I went on, everyone's
Speaker 3: just gonna they're not gonna know who Younger people don't
Speaker 3: know who the crow is, That's exactly, so they're like
Speaker 3: gonna just think I'm some goth person.
Speaker 2: So that was the reason I didn't do it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I make it look weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't do it, But I do love that movie.
Speaker 4: I do love it.
Speaker 1: So maybe some point someone goes, what would be the
Speaker 1: possibility you two gained together and trying to start your
Speaker 1: own fighting the business. You would probably have a stream
Speaker 1: exclusively on Rumble and such, But I bet it would
Speaker 1: take off. I don't think we'd have to necessarily be
Speaker 1: in Rumble. Maybe I'm not against the idea especially and.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm sure we get if we wanted to, we
Speaker 3: probably could.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe that's not a bad idea. Maybe stream
Speaker 1: would do maybe kick would do something for us or
Speaker 1: let us do.
Speaker 3: Oh those guys hate me.
Speaker 4: You're probably You're probably right.
Speaker 2: Okay, they hate me, and I don't even know why.
Speaker 3: I literally, well, I guess I have bullied a bunch
Speaker 3: of their biggest streamers.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've bullied.
Speaker 2: Like all of their big streamers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do they like me? Like, well, you did
Speaker 1: talk a little sit so it was rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris died today.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's sad, you know. I just I'm just
Speaker 1: hearing that. I think I saw that right, So I
Speaker 1: was coming over. I wasn't sure if it was really ornocous.
Speaker 2: You finks. No, it's real. He just passed away. Rest
Speaker 2: in peace, Chuck Norris. He was. He was a legend
Speaker 2: and a hero.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, American hero guy goes I inwards.
Speaker 2: Me too, me too.
Speaker 3: We're trying to keep it. PG thirteen for U you
Speaker 3: know YouTube and all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks guys for the super chats.
Speaker 1: I'll read through these kind of quick so you could
Speaker 1: I could go ahead, Paul, Paul, you said you didn't
Speaker 1: have anyone to train with before the fight?
Speaker 4: Why you contact SAMPI trained with? Again? Just not enough time,
Speaker 4: right kind of the.
Speaker 3: There wasn't enough time, Like I was going back and
Speaker 3: forth if I even wanted to do it, and then
Speaker 3: like then we were trying to pick an opponent, and
Speaker 3: then I was trying to get kickboxing rules for everybody
Speaker 3: that they gave me, like they were giving me people,
Speaker 3: and I was like, all right to ask her they'll
Speaker 3: do kickboxer.
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to do cause I knew.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, whoever you put in front of me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, if it's my rules, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hurt them, Like I don't, I don't care, They're gonna
Speaker 3: get hurt. But they they just couldn't find anybody that
Speaker 3: was willing to do it. Everybody said no, so I
Speaker 3: was kind of forced. And then they were you know,
Speaker 3: they were offering me quite a lot of money, so
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: Like, well deserved because the amount of views you brought
Speaker 1: in millions.
Speaker 2: Millions, you know, so they they knew it was a
Speaker 2: big ticket.
Speaker 1: He was like, where are you watching the fight? Guys
Speaker 1: like people that don't typically watch fights, and my UFC
Speaker 1: friends were text me about your fight, not the UFC
Speaker 1: that was on. That's what I was way. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that like USC fighters extuff people were like asking
Speaker 1: about your fight and when when USC was on, That's
Speaker 1: when I realized how big it was. Like wow, wow,
Speaker 1: that is I said, for sure, multi millions.
Speaker 3: I man, maybe I should have asked them for more money.
Speaker 1: Probably I was under paid. It was your mom would
Speaker 1: be proud of you, Gypsy. We all love you. That's
Speaker 1: that's nice of.
Speaker 3: Them, you know, Like I said in an interview that week,
Speaker 3: her birthday was during that week. Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And were you in jail during her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when she passed. When she passed, I was. I
Speaker 3: was locked away, man, So I didn't get a chance
Speaker 3: to SA goodbye her. And it all it all the
Speaker 3: stars just kind of aligned with it. Like the fight
Speaker 3: was on the fourteenth, like her birthday was earlier that week,
Speaker 3: and you know, I felt her presence with me the
Speaker 3: whole time.
Speaker 2: So and I'm sure that you know she was watching
Speaker 2: over me, and I.
Speaker 3: Hope I made her proud.
Speaker 2: She usedn't come to all my fights, and she was
Speaker 2: in prison.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were in prison basically no reason and
Speaker 1: didn't get to see your mom. Man, That's that pisses.
Speaker 2: Me off, dude.
Speaker 3: They I and you know, I tried to get like
Speaker 3: a furlough it's called furlough to to like go see
Speaker 3: her when she was sick, and they refused it. And
Speaker 3: then I tried to do some things to like cause
Speaker 3: I only had like a few more months left and
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, just let me go home.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's over, it's over.
Speaker 3: I could finish it out like at the halfway House,
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't do it. And then she left and
Speaker 3: then and I was like, I was just devastated, you know.
Speaker 2: But it's that says it's all right, it's all right.
Speaker 2: She's in a better place now.
Speaker 3: And like I said, a lot of the things that
Speaker 3: have been going well for me, I uh, I give.
Speaker 2: The credit to, you know, our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: And I give the credit to my mom who's always
Speaker 3: up there, you know, in my corner from you know,
Speaker 3: talking to Jesus for me.
Speaker 2: So that's how I look at it, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I would say sad she didn't see
Speaker 1: your success, but I guess you can see it from there.
Speaker 2: She can see it from there, and I know she's
Speaker 2: I know she's.
Speaker 3: Happy, and I know exactly she would look at me,
Speaker 3: and she I know exactly she was like, I cannot
Speaker 3: believe your craziness worked.
Speaker 4: It's insane. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: If someone had told me, like I don't think you
Speaker 1: started it for fame and money. You started probably as
Speaker 1: an outlet because you were, like, you're hurting.
Speaker 4: From jail, your mom.
Speaker 1: You've been treated so unfairly. So my guess is you
Speaker 1: started as like an outlet to get your anger and
Speaker 1: something to do.
Speaker 3: That's all it was about. Like I told you, boy,
Speaker 3: it was about pure revenge. It had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with anything else. I did it because I was angry.
Speaker 3: I wanted revenge. I wanted to tell people my story
Speaker 3: and I never It just blows my mind still. It's
Speaker 3: still surreal, like how big it's gotten. No, but I
Speaker 3: think it's well deserved.
Speaker 1: No one would have said that would have worked. You
Speaker 1: imagine trying to pitch it you an agent or something.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no way.
Speaker 3: They would have looked like they would have laughed you
Speaker 3: out of the place or called the guys in white
Speaker 3: coats to put you in a paddy wagon or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's the authentic, the fact that people could
Speaker 1: see you were just it's authentic. You had to get
Speaker 1: it out, and it's like read a few are the
Speaker 1: super chats real quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We got a lot of them, which is good.
Speaker 3: So thanks grat that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for here next time you get together. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to come out here to Vegas.
Speaker 1: But right now coming to visit.
Speaker 3: Me, I'm going, brother, I'll probably try to be out
Speaker 3: there like towards end of July, I'm coming out.
Speaker 1: People love to see you and Dan Blasarian crossover too.
Speaker 2: I love Dan.
Speaker 3: I love Dan's awesome man, and he's really like the
Speaker 3: times that we spoke when we we we all talked
Speaker 3: together like he's he's a good man, and I respect
Speaker 3: him because he put a lot on the line too,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, coming out and speaking out
Speaker 3: the way he did.
Speaker 2: You know, with all the money all the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's lost money and some other things and
Speaker 3: a lot of money. I'm sure he has.
Speaker 1: He has a kind of money where he lost like
Speaker 1: a hundred times thousand times more than most of us
Speaker 1: will ever see. So it's like his life still really well.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for him that he's doing good and a
Speaker 3: lot of people respect his opinion, and I'm very happy
Speaker 3: to know the man.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to see you both.
Speaker 1: I don't think he even blinked at the money lost though,
Speaker 1: He's just like didn't even cross his mind that it
Speaker 1: was gangster talking. Hundreds of millions he lost, like he's
Speaker 1: like an absurd amount of money.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would have been sick.
Speaker 1: Right, He's just like whatever, I've already.
Speaker 2: Whatever, alright, okay, shit, But he.
Speaker 1: Just knew he couldn't live with himself without speaking up.
Speaker 1: You know, when he saw the injustice, he saw the
Speaker 1: state the country's in be completely decayed and taken over
Speaker 1: from within by these people, these foreign people. I mean,
Speaker 1: we all, I mean you speak up on it. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously with things you say are exactly the same. I
Speaker 1: think we agree on that issue.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, that dude.
Speaker 3: This war that's going on now is completely unnecessary. There
Speaker 3: is no reason for us to be involved in this shit.
Speaker 3: What ben gas is is like oh, it's like I
Speaker 3: think I saw it in LA for like eight dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the regular Americans.
Speaker 3: That's not saying that.
Speaker 1: You know, Trump ran on cheaper gas, no foreign wars.
Speaker 1: Is this absolutely disgusting. There's nothing good that's come to
Speaker 1: this war. Nothing, It's complete embarrassment. Trump completely betrayed.
Speaker 3: Us, Yes, and he betrayed and you know, I can't
Speaker 3: even like see I'm mad at Trump.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm more.
Speaker 3: Mad at Israel because I want to know how exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, not that I how like.
Speaker 3: The amount of influence ones that they have to peddle
Speaker 3: to make us do this is mind boggling.
Speaker 4: Mind boggling.
Speaker 1: It just shows like it's a combination of brivery, blackmail.
Speaker 1: Probably the guys Trump sent to negotiate with Iron Iron
Speaker 1: was meeting of our demands. He sent Whick Cough and
Speaker 1: Jared Kushner, both fantastic, two tiny hats to go negotiate
Speaker 1: a piece still and that Iran was meeting all of
Speaker 1: our needs and then we bombed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Now Americans are dying for this foreign country that offers nothing.
Speaker 1: They're just like they're parasitic class.
Speaker 4: It's just like.
Speaker 3: All the only thing that they want. See, it's so many,
Speaker 3: there's so many prongs of it. They're gonna start the war,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna send our best, our bravest men, our
Speaker 3: strongest men, you know. I mean, they're gonna go over there,
Speaker 3: They're gonna fight, they're gonna die. It makes us weaker
Speaker 3: as a society because you're you're, all of your good
Speaker 3: men are going over there. And I pray to God
Speaker 3: that none of them die. Please. I I always pray
Speaker 3: for the soldiers, especially the white ones, like I don't
Speaker 3: want them to die. I want them to come back
Speaker 3: home to their families. They don't deserve this. They didn't
Speaker 3: sign up for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They were supposed to protect America and not die for
Speaker 1: a foreign nation. So I I do think the soldiers
Speaker 1: are patriots defending America. It's absolutely disgusting, war mongoring, botscum.
Speaker 4: You know, Henry, Henry Form is.
Speaker 2: A good guy.
Speaker 4: You can read a book about these people from long
Speaker 4: time ago.
Speaker 1: It's like hets to try to warn us and people
Speaker 1: like me and you have made a difference, I think
Speaker 1: because there's a great awakening now and guys like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about when it wasn't popular.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was a time when it was.
Speaker 3: It was very like career ending, life ending to talk
Speaker 3: about these things. Now it's we have a lot more
Speaker 3: flexibility because there's because you just can't deny the truth.
Speaker 3: You can only deny the truth for so long. You
Speaker 3: I mean, the truth is going to have its day
Speaker 3: no matter what.
Speaker 2: So that's a big thing.
Speaker 3: And then you know, the recruitment went up on under Trump,
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people joined because they thought that
Speaker 3: they were gonna be able to join and there was
Speaker 3: gonna be no war. They were gonna be able to
Speaker 3: go in, do their time, serve their country, get their benefits,
Speaker 3: and go home, which is commendable and I admire it
Speaker 3: and I have no problem with that. And now they're
Speaker 3: stuck in this position where they're gonna have to go fight.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've got aircraft carriers over there, marines
Speaker 3: over there, we got special for we got all these
Speaker 3: shit spending millions of dollars and for what how does
Speaker 3: this benefits?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm it's long. They're like, oh, it's for national security.
Speaker 3: I'm like, national's decree for what. There's a whole ocean
Speaker 3: in between us.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm actually going overseas right after this interview.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say where. Just feel no, but it's
Speaker 1: like I feel less safe as an American traveling now.
Speaker 4: Yes, Like with this, it's like they're.
Speaker 1: Making it unsafe for Americans to travel. And there also
Speaker 1: made a military look weaker, like America was like uninvincible.
Speaker 1: But they're having trouble finishing Iran.
Speaker 3: Well because now we're actually fighting a contry that has
Speaker 3: a real military. We're not fighting in Afghanistan anymore, where
Speaker 3: it's a bunch of guys wearing sandals with a towel
Speaker 3: on their head in the back of a Tyota fucking
Speaker 3: truck with a machine gun on it. That's not the
Speaker 3: case anymore. They have tanks, missiles, fucking airplanes. They have
Speaker 3: a trained military like, they have these things, so they're
Speaker 3: not going to be so easily just toppled. And what
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see is one, if God forbid, this
Speaker 3: war continues and we have to send our soldiers in there.
Speaker 3: How many soldiers is the idef sending? That's what I
Speaker 3: want to know.
Speaker 4: Of American award.
Speaker 3: Do you know that not one, not one or all.
Speaker 1: These they're just like, no, go fight, our stupid boy,
Speaker 1: go fighter war and die. They're just the most disrespectful
Speaker 1: arrogance like. But the world seeing it now. When we
Speaker 1: started speaking on this, it was career ending. I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to crash my career, get exiles from
Speaker 1: all these cool circles, as Adam Sasnik says, like, oh
Speaker 1: all my celebrity friends. But I realized the ship's meaningless.
Speaker 1: But now it's becoming like mainstream, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: why guys like, yeah, sometimes we disagree, but I do
Speaker 1: got to give him massive respect.
Speaker 4: It went because he spent.
Speaker 1: You know, over a decade pushing this when it wasn't
Speaker 1: popular at all.
Speaker 3: No, of course, And you know, I always tip my
Speaker 3: hat to Nick with certain things, like there's things that
Speaker 3: he's said that I didn't know, you know, because he
Speaker 3: is very well versed in a lot of history.
Speaker 1: I don't like how he is guys like you and
Speaker 1: like it's just unnecessary. I think maybe like a jealousy
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: It's like, No, I don't know if it's jealousy.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's more he he wants
Speaker 3: to be the number one guy, you know, and so
Speaker 3: you're bad.
Speaker 4: For the movement, which Cordy do you know?
Speaker 1: Cour right, And then when people say I understand him
Speaker 1: not want to interview himself, that totally makes sense. But
Speaker 1: he doesn't need like bad mouth to you. That's just
Speaker 1: my opinion.
Speaker 2: Look, let him bad mouth me, let him do it.
Speaker 3: I always I enjoy when he to be honest, I
Speaker 3: don't even take it personal anymore.
Speaker 2: I used to, but I don't anymore. No, I like
Speaker 2: it now. I'm just like, yeah, let him, let him
Speaker 2: talk like it's fine, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in my eyes, I just say, I'm like,
Speaker 3: he's a younger man, and you know he wants to
Speaker 3: be the number one guy, be the number one guy.
Speaker 2: Do your thing.
Speaker 3: I wish you all the best, and uh, I hope
Speaker 3: that your way succeeds. I know it's not going to,
Speaker 3: but give it your best shot.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the way I see it.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm past all that now, the animosities and
Speaker 3: the jealousy, there's no reason for it, because we have
Speaker 3: all I have the same goal as you.
Speaker 2: I have the same goal as Dan.
Speaker 3: Nick may might might not want to admit it, but
Speaker 3: I have the same goal as he does exactly.
Speaker 2: So however we get there, Yeah, look.
Speaker 4: At ourself first.
Speaker 1: I think, like, of course, anyone likes a little bit
Speaker 1: of fame and money, so I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: a liar. But that's also not why we got involved
Speaker 1: at all. It was spread truth. You know, right that
Speaker 1: the movement comes way before me. I'll sacrifice, sacrifice myself
Speaker 1: in a second. I know clearly Dan's the same, and
Speaker 1: it's you know, Nick has sacrificed a lot, so sure.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: A little bit. No, he's he's sacrificed. I mean, I
Speaker 3: know he can't get a bank. I know that it's,
Speaker 3: you know, probably hard for him to walk around. There's
Speaker 3: there's things that he sacrificed. I never I never take
Speaker 3: away from that, you know, my I I don't.
Speaker 2: Again, I don't have a problem with him anymore that
Speaker 2: I didn't like.
Speaker 3: The only thing I didn't like reason that he said
Speaker 3: was like his commentary in the fight, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, like you don't really know anything about fighting.
Speaker 3: He really don't playing.
Speaker 1: For a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, come on, Like that's always in mind.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, look, you're you're a very smart young man.
Speaker 3: You're you're very good politically. If I ever needed a
Speaker 3: political strategist, I would go to you. But you don't
Speaker 3: know anything about don't ever go on a paraglove.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: He's probably never been punched, probably never punched anyone.
Speaker 3: No, he's never have So but again, it's fine, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, there's a lot of people I like.
Speaker 4: Him, So I'm not trying to trash it.
Speaker 1: Like we've had clash before, but I realized us clashing
Speaker 1: is completely bad for the movement.
Speaker 3: It is, it is, and that's why I don't do
Speaker 3: it either. And I told you this before. See, because
Speaker 3: like if two people like ourselves or Nick or Dan,
Speaker 3: if we start arguing right about something, and then it's
Speaker 3: not just us arguing anymore.
Speaker 4: It takes the whole movement splits it.
Speaker 2: The fans start arguing.
Speaker 3: And then once the fans start arguing, now you have division,
Speaker 3: and then it makes us break up.
Speaker 2: And that's what I try to ovoid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, there's one day where me and Nick were just
Speaker 1: going at it and then Dan made us get on
Speaker 1: the phone and talk. As soon as we talked that,
Speaker 1: we were like laughing, like how ridiculous and funny it
Speaker 1: is since we both are like stubborn, both have a
Speaker 1: little ego.
Speaker 4: Both felt slighted.
Speaker 1: But Dan was one hundred percent right, like, bro, you
Speaker 1: guys are being retarded, like the movement's important for fracturing it.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he stepped in and did that because it's
Speaker 1: like you realize, like you said, the fans are arguing.
Speaker 1: It's splitting the movement too. This is exactly what they want.
Speaker 1: This is how they win.
Speaker 2: And that's what we have to try to avoid.
Speaker 3: Like I don't want my fans to argue with Nick fans,
Speaker 3: and I don't want Nick fans to argue with your
Speaker 3: fans because we're all we're also.
Speaker 1: The same fans. The crazy part, so it's like makes
Speaker 1: no sense.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense. So that's why I try my
Speaker 2: best to avoid it.
Speaker 3: And just you know, hey, like if you got something
Speaker 3: bad to say, like just take it and stride, you know,
Speaker 3: and keep on moving. And just like that's I think,
Speaker 3: like I focus on what I have to focus on.
Speaker 3: I don'n't worry about the other story.
Speaker 1: You don't even respond to moosth people that are badmouthing
Speaker 1: you the same side there, So I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: mention his name because it was badmouthing you, I know,
Speaker 1: and you took the high road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, why why what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna and look at me.
Speaker 1: Now telling them like, bro, why would you attack someone
Speaker 1: who was like spreading good things your friend?
Speaker 3: But hey, we all we all make decisions in life,
Speaker 3: and I wish him nothing but the best, and I
Speaker 3: hope he's doing well. And I I I don't want
Speaker 3: any animosities at all. I have none, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I have no bad blood. I'm very happy
Speaker 3: and I'm very content with what I'm doing and I'm
Speaker 3: going to continue to do it for as long as
Speaker 3: I possibly can.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the attitude. Most people wouldn't be
Speaker 1: that way. But it's like you realize, like, why would
Speaker 1: you wish bad.
Speaker 4: Upon this person? It's like you guys like we're friend whatever,
Speaker 4: but we'll move on from this.
Speaker 1: That's I just realize. I have a bunch of super chats,
Speaker 1: so we can be through these kinds.
Speaker 2: O cool.
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for this is my first descent kick and YouTube,
Speaker 1: my first Kicks.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's so crazy to be on Kick.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Kick, I've been trying to I won't bully
Speaker 3: any other streamers, right, I had to ask you to
Speaker 3: be well behaved, and yes, I promise you.
Speaker 1: We're wearing a good necklace. But don't want to get
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Kick, but unfortunately we need these platforms.
Speaker 1: It sucks you one of the only guys this managed
Speaker 1: success without these platforms.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's read to some of these super chests real quick.
Speaker 4: What's the backstory? Why did they pick the dude to
Speaker 4: fight with you?
Speaker 1: The black guy?
Speaker 2: You guess.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they picked him the fight. He's
Speaker 4: a he's a streamer or YouTuber.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, he was like a meme like fifteen
Speaker 3: years ago, and he was kind of the only guy
Speaker 3: that we could get on short notice, so we just
Speaker 3: grabbed him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes up, Paul, congrats on the win, brother family,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I'm black and even I pulled
Speaker 1: a Charleston white during the fight, no matter what their race, like,
Speaker 1: I respect you. It's it's funny, you know, thank you
Speaker 1: brother for the super chat.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: None from James yet, though. It's funny because even like
Speaker 1: some black people like you, you're just funny, authentic.
Speaker 4: Hey, Paul, I love it, ass brother.
Speaker 1: I throw you, throw your past streams on all day
Speaker 1: when I'm at work and just enjoy no white genocide,
Speaker 1: no great replacements, thank you. Not American, but I'm black
Speaker 1: and I love Chefsy. Whites are the best, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the best. Never give up, Gefsy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: You're never giving up. Man. We've got a lot more
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: Because you know what, maybe black people need to have
Speaker 1: this conversation of why you criticize them. They need to
Speaker 1: self reflect a little bit. You know, we know the
Speaker 1: Jay's are in capable of self reflection. Maybe thee the Black.
Speaker 3: Scan Look, I would I know they I know they can't,
Speaker 3: but I would hope that at some point, maybe just
Speaker 3: maybe they would take a little bit of you know,
Speaker 3: have some self awareness, take little bit of personal responsibility.
Speaker 2: You know, I know they're incapable.
Speaker 3: I know they're never going to I know they're just
Speaker 3: gonna blame it all on us. They're just gonna bitch
Speaker 3: and moan and play the victim. But I mean maybe
Speaker 3: you know, in some alternate universe they could figure it out.
Speaker 4: We know who taught them to do that though.
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean I might try.
Speaker 1: To take away the responsibility, but you're saying that was
Speaker 1: kind of program them. But these people that FAMI, they
Speaker 1: can't reflection. We know one group will never self reflect.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the the tiny hat people they don't
Speaker 3: have that's not that's not they're not capable because they
Speaker 3: don't believe in sin and so they don't think that
Speaker 3: what they're doing is wrong.
Speaker 2: So there's no self reflection there black people.
Speaker 3: Like maybe here and there you might find one, but
Speaker 3: it's just it'll just never be enough. I've told you this, like,
Speaker 3: even if you got a few of them to have
Speaker 3: that self awareness, that those ones will always be in
Speaker 3: the minority, they will never be the majority. So I
Speaker 3: can't worry about this little tiny minority that might be okay.
Speaker 3: I have to worry about the majority that wants to rape, pillage, kill,
Speaker 3: burn down Rob Steele and uh and destroy countries. I
Speaker 3: have to worry about this. I can't worry about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of you kind of schooled me in
Speaker 1: our first interview.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: You you made a lot of sense. So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how much that has to be cut out of
Speaker 1: the YouTube version. So Gypsy Crusader, the real Gypsy King,
Speaker 1: not that big tall motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury, Hey, Tyson Fury, he's he's a good fighter.
Speaker 3: I love Tyson, but I love to meet him.
Speaker 2: I love to meet him.
Speaker 4: Oh, my guy, justure Light.
Speaker 1: It's putting white dash connecting, say Joshua Light, it's not
Speaker 1: that bad, he says, jumping off with your eyebrow. I
Speaker 1: guess it is slightly off.
Speaker 2: Oh hold on, maybe I love your ex feet.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jake, any tips.
Speaker 1: I grappling stand up in a gee on how to
Speaker 1: win the grip fighting in a gee against damn Juico friends.
Speaker 4: Take take the gee off.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's a I'm much more of a no G
Speaker 1: grappler than a G grappler.
Speaker 4: I always hated the gee. I was focused on MMA.
Speaker 1: Obviously I have some ge abilities, but I hate all
Speaker 1: the grip people who to grab install.
Speaker 2: I feel like the gee is it's not it's not realistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. No, Yeah, they're doing
Speaker 1: a little bit of G training. If we do good
Speaker 1: o case someone has a jacket on, But what if
Speaker 1: I take my shirt off?
Speaker 3: Now you can't fight me, right exactly? I always I
Speaker 3: appreciate the G training, but I always thought that it
Speaker 3: was a little unrealistic, Like how many people are gonna
Speaker 3: have that that thick gee on so you can grab
Speaker 3: them and like throw them to the ground or choke
Speaker 3: them with their callar Not that many people, Not that many?
Speaker 1: Exactly. You have to have a big thick jacket. It's
Speaker 1: a I'm much more of a no G trainer. Someone says,
Speaker 1: when is the dull stream the Jake. But what the
Speaker 1: duel stream with Jake. I guess that's for your platform.
Speaker 1: Is that where you stream on duel or do you
Speaker 1: stream on pump.
Speaker 2: No, I stream on I stream on pump dot fund.
Speaker 2: Check out the joker coin on pump dot fun.
Speaker 3: I gotta plug and then Crusaders dot gg is my
Speaker 3: own platform, and I just started using Candle TV. They're
Speaker 3: really really good guys. So that's where I've been streaming predominately.
Speaker 3: This is this is my sponsor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank them for helping you when you were
Speaker 1: in rough financial situation.
Speaker 3: Oh man, dude, they they have been so of you.
Speaker 1: I think you were struggling and would hire you. I
Speaker 1: saw how you were treated going to gyms. It really
Speaker 1: pissed me off. There's all these gyms, fight gyms, filthy
Speaker 1: for everyone. They treat you with like disrespect, so not
Speaker 1: really disrespect. People weren't like happy that I brought you
Speaker 1: by a gym.
Speaker 3: No, they're not, And again I understand their apprehension and
Speaker 3: I'm not angry at them.
Speaker 2: It's it just sucks because like.
Speaker 3: I miss fighting sometimes, you know, like that was another
Speaker 3: reason I did it too, Like, yeah, the money was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the explosure was great.
Speaker 3: But in the back of my head, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I fucking gonna feel like, huh, you're like alive again.
Speaker 3: There's no God, dude, you're alive. Like, there's no feeling
Speaker 3: like it. There's no there's the rush, you know, when
Speaker 3: they raise your hands and when you're in there and
Speaker 3: you're fighting and you're throwing everything you got and you're
Speaker 3: using all of your skill that you've learned over the years.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just nothing like it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's the highest of highs and the lowest
Speaker 1: of lows.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is a lot of pressure on yourself.
Speaker 1: Like you touched me we talked after, you felt like
Speaker 1: you would have been done if you had lost, And
Speaker 1: I don't think you felt that way that could cause
Speaker 1: you to like crash out and be done.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, there was definitely a lot of Like
Speaker 3: I told you, when we talked after it, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: in my mind, I was like, if I lose, career
Speaker 3: is over.
Speaker 2: Done.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a lot of pressure and wait put on yourself.
Speaker 4: But that's why even when you're tired, you kept fighting,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, dude, I knew you kept going and he
Speaker 1: was way more gas than you, which is so busy.
Speaker 1: They kept being like, oh, Paul's tired, blah blah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you were tired, but you didn't have any I bet
Speaker 1: that guy had been training. I think they were liberally
Speaker 1: trying to set you up. That's my take.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they were trying to sway well because I
Speaker 3: mean they were the commentators and the judges they were
Speaker 3: like yeah, I mean they're very close to each other
Speaker 3: and you could hear them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's actually they're probably being loud trying to
Speaker 1: sway the judges sometimes.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you could hear them.
Speaker 3: And I think I think God did the Florida State
Speaker 3: Athletic Commission picked really really good judges, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I that was a blessing. And they they
Speaker 3: seen they seen the fight for what it was, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. They didn't let anything else influence them.
Speaker 3: They just watched the fight. They knew it was important
Speaker 3: and took it very seriously. All except for well except
Speaker 3: for that one judge who like kind of I don't
Speaker 3: know sure what he was looking at. But the other
Speaker 3: two were fantastic and uh yeah, man, we killed it.
Speaker 3: We killed it.
Speaker 1: The audience can sway the judge sometimes too. I think
Speaker 1: that's important to know. Hear the audience going crazy when
Speaker 1: he throws, silence when you throw, and sometimes judge get
Speaker 1: a little scared.
Speaker 2: Too, bhoo.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, yeah, I mean that did in
Speaker 3: the back of my head, like when I was waiting,
Speaker 3: like I felt that in my mind.
Speaker 2: I also felt like.
Speaker 3: Yo, I did more than enough, Like I know I
Speaker 3: did enough.
Speaker 4: I didn't even watch the decision.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like so clear because I was
Speaker 1: out of dinner at the time, you know, so that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah he won the fight.
Speaker 4: I was just shocked that people thought it was close.
Speaker 3: I wish I understood it. But again, it's people who
Speaker 3: never put on a pair of gloves in their entire.
Speaker 4: Lives, exactly. Paul, congrats on the wind brother.
Speaker 1: I started following you an x after seeing the real
Speaker 1: with those two dumb ends flashing their guns and God
Speaker 1: and got you bust out with your your gun broke
Speaker 1: you got me God by the way, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't say what it is, but it's hilarious. One
Speaker 1: of those like bang, I gotta use that at some point.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for I've been waiting for the clip.
Speaker 4: I just remember I have that, dude, I thank you
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 2: That's no problem, of course. Awesome.
Speaker 4: I got to use that guy. It's so good.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, you're gonna love it. The reaction is priceless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the story of your bomb brought tears to my eyes.
Speaker 1: Everything you went through was a purification process and a
Speaker 1: baptism by fire.
Speaker 4: We need fighters like you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you really inspire a lot of people, which
Speaker 1: is like you're like an inspiring character, like people who
Speaker 1: were really they really needed the wind. That's why you
Speaker 1: had so much pressure because they say it, but like
Speaker 1: we did need the wind.
Speaker 4: People did need it. Right now, I know.
Speaker 3: It was something to cheer for and to you know,
Speaker 3: despite all of the craziness that's going on in the
Speaker 3: world right now, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to let me put more pressure on you before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trust me, I had plenty. It was.
Speaker 3: It was and I'm already not a pleasant person to
Speaker 3: you know how it is like before to fight, like training.
Speaker 3: If you're miserable for a fight, you are miserable. You
Speaker 3: don't want to be around. No, But I didn't want
Speaker 3: to talk to anybody I don't want to deal with anybody.
Speaker 3: I was just like in my head, like trying to
Speaker 3: stay focused, and I was not pleasant to be around.
Speaker 3: And you know, just the added pressure of the whole
Speaker 3: thing definitely made me, you know, antsy.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 3: It was a lot, man, it was a lot. And
Speaker 3: I still am in disbelief a little bit of what
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's life changing, these fights. It can
Speaker 1: change your life downwards or upwards. So this amount of
Speaker 1: pressure that people don't understand that haven't fought about some
Speaker 1: of these big fights, guys like GSP Dan Henderson, the
Speaker 1: results can change my entire life. It's like same with yours.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe not financially the same, but like with
Speaker 1: how you view it. The culture. It was what you
Speaker 1: had writing on your shoulders. People just cannot possibly understand no,
Speaker 1: to go out care and fight another man.
Speaker 4: It's just there's literally not.
Speaker 3: You take that. Yes, And I thank god that I
Speaker 3: thank god I had some big shoulders to carry it.
Speaker 2: And fuck it was. It was just a true blessing.
Speaker 3: Man. I'm happy we came out on top. I'm happy
Speaker 3: that everybody was so proud. I had so many people
Speaker 3: reach out my phone was fucking blowing up, going off
Speaker 3: the hook. Everybody emailing, texting, acts, fucking telegram my girl,
Speaker 3: like everybody. Everybody was going crazy. Everybody was going crazy.
Speaker 3: So it was a good feeling.
Speaker 4: A lot of pressure. Remember, after a fight, I was
Speaker 4: stopping and checking my phone to the next day.
Speaker 1: I look at my phone. You tell like Hunter's messages.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I'll do that tomorrow. I'm going down
Speaker 1: and have just the way the pressure that's on you.
Speaker 1: When that comes off, You're just like, oh, you can
Speaker 1: just relax.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I feel a lot better, Like I could
Speaker 3: just relax now.
Speaker 2: It was great going out after the fight.
Speaker 3: I went back to the hotel, I got cleaned up,
Speaker 3: I put on my Hugo Boss and I was like,
Speaker 3: take net a fucking hard rock and I went to
Speaker 3: hard Rock and I was gambling. I drank and we
Speaker 3: hung out and we went to waffle house afterwards. It was.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just that's just the best feeling after
Speaker 1: you fight. Just go and let loose. There's nothing like it.
Speaker 1: Supertestinat you gotta go pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks, No, of course, of course, you know I always
Speaker 2: love talking to you.
Speaker 1: Man. I got a lot more than usual so I
Speaker 1: gotta like speed through. I'm hey, Paul, I'm Catholic and
Speaker 1: I'm becoming a Catholic priest. I want to ask you this,
Speaker 1: why do you hold onto those racist beliefs since your
Speaker 1: church condemns them.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean what, he's going to be a Catholic priest.
Speaker 4: That's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Again he said, yeah, I mean becoming a Catholic priest.
Speaker 3: Well, I would tell you that the Church of now
Speaker 3: maybe condemns it. But again, I don't coast on it.
Speaker 3: I've said this a million times. I don't coast onto
Speaker 3: the meek uh a form of Christianity that we have nowadays.
Speaker 3: I don't. I look at you know, I look at
Speaker 3: the the Knights templar, I look at those people, the
Speaker 3: Christianity of ancient times that they had zero tolerance for
Speaker 3: people who were against the faith, who were going to
Speaker 3: try to spread degeneracy and to spread evil. And I
Speaker 3: see these people as pure evil, that is what they are.
Speaker 3: And as a Christian and as a Catholic, it is
Speaker 3: my duty to stand against it. And that is how
Speaker 3: I justified.
Speaker 2: It's very simple.
Speaker 1: All right, God bless you brother for being being in
Speaker 1: your corner. I'm now a fan of your of yours
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Both showed absolute class in the fight. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're on TikTok right, but probably he
Speaker 1: sees other people.
Speaker 3: I am actually on TikTok, but I just don't share
Speaker 3: it too much because if I get too many follows
Speaker 3: would just ban me.
Speaker 2: So like I do have one, though, I would look
Speaker 2: at couple.
Speaker 4: Of they're crazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, Paul, I recently lost my son to the CPS
Speaker 1: because of my political beliefs. Advice. Oh, man, dude, that's
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's terrible.
Speaker 4: That's just terrible.
Speaker 2: How how is that possible?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's enough context there, But I'm sorry, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what I would tell you to do.
Speaker 3: If I had any advice to you, I would say,
Speaker 3: find a good non Jewish lawyer and go fight for
Speaker 3: your children. I mean, they cannot take your children away
Speaker 3: from you on the grounds of your political beliefs. That's absurd.
Speaker 3: They would have to prove that you are a bad
Speaker 3: parent and your political beliefs do not. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: no connection between them. So that's what I would take.
Speaker 3: A get away unless.
Speaker 1: You're's absolutely awful parent is the worst.
Speaker 4: Thing you can do. If the kid needs that bonders
Speaker 4: you can't.
Speaker 2: Yes, please, I hope you get your son back. Man,
Speaker 2: that's terrible.
Speaker 3: I'll be with you.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Paul, I can't believe cock Adam sixteen talk
Speaker 1: shit about his racist old tweets pdf allegations Adam's father
Speaker 1: is a French Canadian zio who was in and in
Speaker 1: a Democratic Party and pardon by Clinton for mel fraut.
Speaker 4: When who is this?
Speaker 1: Shout out to Paul, Adam sixteen talked shit about Oh he.
Speaker 3: Was talking shit about me. Well, listen, that fucking guy
Speaker 3: lets people bang his wife. So who gives a ship?
Speaker 2: Do you things like?
Speaker 3: Not only that he let some fucking monkey like plow
Speaker 3: his wife, then that same monkey got in a ring
Speaker 3: with him and beat the ship out of him in
Speaker 3: front of his wife. Like you are a joke. You
Speaker 3: are a complete jathetic man.
Speaker 1: So iran, is it in danger? Tell that to the
Speaker 1: thousands of dead u AS servicemen? Yeah, they're dead because
Speaker 1: we're over there bombing them.
Speaker 2: Right, What do you want them to do? Just sit
Speaker 2: there again? No problem?
Speaker 1: Do you have any planning or have a bodyguards like
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate or obvious reasons. That's you mentioned Tate. I
Speaker 1: think that's interesting. But first, do you have a bodyguard?
Speaker 1: So that question.
Speaker 3: First, I do not, and uh I don't want one.
Speaker 3: I don't want to walk around with a bodyguard. I
Speaker 3: I I probably will never do that because first of all,
Speaker 3: I just think it. I just think it looks I
Speaker 3: think it looks crazy for me, number one. And then
Speaker 3: like financially, how am I going to pay for that?
Speaker 3: That's another thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of your finances are still being choked at.
Speaker 4: You don't have.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of fame, but you know you're
Speaker 1: doing okay now, but you don't have the access to
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 4: Celebrities have it?
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: I have a store, Like where do you even sell
Speaker 4: your your gear at?
Speaker 3: I have. I have a merged store and people buy
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff from me, which I have to
Speaker 3: work on because I have almost over a week's worth
Speaker 3: of orders and it is insane, Like I want to
Speaker 3: thank everybody who bought stuff. I mean they bought sunglasses,
Speaker 3: they bought the new jewelry line that I launched, everything sweaters,
Speaker 3: and I make some really cool, unique things that a
Speaker 3: lot of it a lot of the stuff I make
Speaker 3: is not like it has nothing to do with me directly,
Speaker 3: Like it's not like this is I'll show you this
Speaker 3: is cool. This is like the jewelry box that that
Speaker 3: I give to everybody, like when you buy the stuff,
Speaker 3: well my jewelry, Like I just did this because like
Speaker 3: I wanted to put my logo on it. But a
Speaker 3: lot of other things have nothing to do with me.
Speaker 3: And I've been people buy shit and I'm really really
Speaker 3: happy for them. And then you know, I get donations
Speaker 3: when I do my show, but beyond that, like I
Speaker 3: don't make any other money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And if I was.
Speaker 3: Allowed to be on kick or if I was allowed
Speaker 3: to be on.
Speaker 2: YouTube, I would probably make a lot of money, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I'm not, so I have to find very clever
Speaker 3: ways to monetize things, and I've done that, so I'm
Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate in that aspect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, like people want to support you.
Speaker 1: Like I've had you on people were asking like where
Speaker 1: could they buy the shirts because we were both people
Speaker 1: put off that or you made tell people ask me
Speaker 1: like where to buy those, and I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: know it's your stores. Like difficult and your orders are
Speaker 1: always changing and stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I have my store.
Speaker 3: It's merch dot Crusaders dot gg, so if anyone wants
Speaker 3: to see anything that's available, they can go over there.
Speaker 3: I mean, between that and then Dual Duel really helped.
Speaker 2: I mean they have been. It was a blessing from God.
Speaker 1: I want to criticize, but it's like, man, you're a
Speaker 1: man that needs money. People criticize without but they're not
Speaker 1: helping your life. It's like I hate when people do
Speaker 1: this about effort you put in the clipping. You don't
Speaker 1: have like a team and people behind you.
Speaker 2: No, I have nobody behind it.
Speaker 3: Like they're like, oh, you don't work like motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yes I do.
Speaker 2: I do the show. I do all the production, I
Speaker 2: do all the clips. I do the show myself, nobody
Speaker 2: helps me.
Speaker 3: And then the selling the stuff, like I take all
Speaker 3: the orders, I package everything myself, I make all the labels,
Speaker 3: I take everything to the to the post office. I
Speaker 3: do customer support where people don't fucking get their ship right,
Speaker 3: Like I'm doing. What do you want from it?
Speaker 1: How you need to get employees then you can push
Speaker 1: it up more.
Speaker 2: It's like you know where show.
Speaker 1: People always people like, hey, where can I Some people
Speaker 1: just want to like help and support you. Where you're
Speaker 1: your donation things set.
Speaker 2: You could donate through. Uh, there's an entropy link.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But if uh, that's probably the easiest way, because like
Speaker 3: I said, I have so many emails I have to
Speaker 3: go through. I would give people my email and if
Speaker 3: they want to email me that way.
Speaker 2: But I what I would tell everybody to do is
Speaker 2: to go to Crusaders dot gg and follow me there.
Speaker 2: I'll be the show will be back on Saturday joke
Speaker 2: or we'll be back.
Speaker 3: For his grand return. So we'll have the show there
Speaker 3: and if you guys come on over a watch. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you guys where to where to donate, uh, where
Speaker 3: to buy everything, and you guys can come and we'll
Speaker 3: watch the show and watch the show. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a good one because I'm feeling lethal and
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get back to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me speak.
Speaker 1: Don't send any more super chest people, or I might
Speaker 1: not read them if you do, because we gotta rap.
Speaker 1: We gotta rap quick. But let me speak through these.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the super chests, by the way.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Jake, what do you guys think about Sean Strickland, especially
Speaker 1: regarding his next again, TOMSA, I'm going for Sean. We
Speaker 1: clash occasionally, but obviously I'm gonna go for America. There.
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Sean, even if we clashed sometimes I think, which,
Speaker 1: what's your.
Speaker 4: Opinions on that?
Speaker 2: Who's he fighting?
Speaker 4: He's fighting?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Is he? Yeah? Coming for I'm pulling for Sean. I'm
Speaker 3: pulling for come on, Sean. I love Sean. I think
Speaker 3: Sean is awesome. I'd love to meet him one of
Speaker 3: these days.
Speaker 1: Would vegas, Well, we'll connect that to fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be That'd be hilarious. I think you know,
Speaker 2: he's He's made me laugh so many times.
Speaker 3: I love what he doesn't give a fuck and he
Speaker 3: he's he's such a cool character and you know, a
Speaker 3: really a really strong man to stand by his beliefs
Speaker 3: in the place that he's at. So I love that
Speaker 3: and I'm pulling for him. Man, I hope he wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Not many of us are real and authentic like that.
Speaker 2: No, he's real, Jays.
Speaker 1: He's like, why are you obsessed with him? But now
Speaker 1: he sees it and he's speaking.
Speaker 2: Up he's real brother.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you had to get along. Uh you looked way bigger,
Speaker 1: aren't you, Koe? What a dumb ass? Fuck you buddy?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: You have sixteen ounce gloves? Do his falling all over
Speaker 1: his face?
Speaker 3: Why didn't I ko him? I'm in because I already
Speaker 3: said it, like if you their strategy in fighting fighting
Speaker 3: is not a tough guy sport.
Speaker 2: A tough guy is gonna get hurt real bad.
Speaker 3: It's it's a thinking.
Speaker 1: You have to be thinking exactly, Especially with sixteen ounce gloves.
Speaker 1: You're not just likely to get that knockout.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: He would have had to make such a mistaken and
Speaker 3: I would have had to crack him so clean, so
Speaker 3: hard for him to be knocked out with sixteen OUN's glove.
Speaker 2: It's it's very difficult.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Gypsy must respect on the fight. You should.
Speaker 1: You showed up, showed out, fighting through that retarded commentary
Speaker 1: had to be frustrating. You destroyed that kid, and he
Speaker 1: tried to rob you anyways they could. They tried brought
Speaker 1: me away the good. Yes, that is cracked you dominated.
Speaker 1: I think most people saw it, but it didn't help Jake.
Speaker 1: A long time ago, I ran into off the Basin
Speaker 1: Street at a pizzeria near the past club Ruby Skies.
Speaker 4: You talk to me for a long time about MMA
Speaker 4: card respect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just normal when fans come up, as long
Speaker 1: as they're normal and not like weird And I saw
Speaker 1: you were the same when we hung out. A lot
Speaker 1: of people coming up to you. It's just like a
Speaker 1: song as you're like normal and not like a weirdo.
Speaker 1: I have no problem talking to fans.
Speaker 3: You know, And no, I love talking to the fans.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All the time, I get like DMS being like, oh
Speaker 1: I saw you but didn't want to bother you and
Speaker 1: say if you see me, come up and say I yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean people come up to me all the time,
Speaker 3: you know, especially after the fight, like it was crazy.
Speaker 3: Everyone was just like yo, man, great fight, like all this,
Speaker 3: and people.
Speaker 1: Always are you publicly sharing where you just were or
Speaker 1: not were? You get recognized a lot there and everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 3: Dude, before before the fight and then after the fight
Speaker 3: was fucking That's.
Speaker 1: What I was thinking, because this fight was so big,
Speaker 1: because you were already really bigger. Everyone's the bigger in reality.
Speaker 1: People kept coming up. I'm like, whoa, you're way bigger
Speaker 1: than I realized. So I can't imagine now it must.
Speaker 3: Be Oh now, dude, I can't go nowhere.
Speaker 4: Hard to walk around.
Speaker 3: Plus, yeah, it's it's get it's getting there.
Speaker 2: It's getting there.
Speaker 1: Awesome with Paul, both of you guys. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet, the Name of Zion,
Speaker 1: The Name of Zion is a good documentary. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: check that out. We beat super Hot Fire love you
Speaker 1: gipsy agh what's super hot fire? And I know what
Speaker 1: that is?
Speaker 2: But super hot that's the that's the guy.
Speaker 1: His name uncle, So so wait, what is I don't know?
Speaker 4: Super hot fires? But that's all right, okay.
Speaker 1: Crazy to see how things turned out for Paul after
Speaker 1: seeing him go to jail for years, so surreal seeing
Speaker 1: him fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's just.
Speaker 1: It's it's been crazy how your life has changed for
Speaker 1: the positive.
Speaker 4: We talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: It's you know, walk so happy for you, and it's
Speaker 1: you have the haters, but there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people happy.
Speaker 4: I'm going to really two or three more of those
Speaker 4: people stop standing on. Paul.
Speaker 1: Have you collaborated with Patriot Front before? They are a
Speaker 1: men's fitness and white obvocacy group has a strong make culture.
Speaker 1: They would appreciate you doing make clinic. I've done a seminar,
Speaker 1: forum and stuff for you know. Patriot fun is.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, and I'm a big fan. I like them.
Speaker 2: I've never they've never really like reached out to me.
Speaker 4: I can see if I can connect that.
Speaker 1: I really like the guy that they really I've been
Speaker 1: working with him for they they went there was a
Speaker 1: hurricane where a bunch of girls that died and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they in the morning.
Speaker 4: I got it before in the morning and went to
Speaker 4: a full.
Speaker 1: Day's labor and it felt so good to go and
Speaker 1: give back to the community to help because the government
Speaker 1: obviously our money is all in Israel.
Speaker 4: So we were out there as men.
Speaker 1: I think there was like thirty of us and Thomas,
Speaker 1: you know, Russo was leading the group and it just
Speaker 1: feels good when you have a community of men to
Speaker 1: work together.
Speaker 2: That's miss Thomas.
Speaker 1: He's such a strong leader. Been around him.
Speaker 4: I can see the people really respect him.
Speaker 1: You can't fake that, you know, no, No, he first
Speaker 1: came out, brought like fifteen of his guys.
Speaker 4: We spent like twelve hours together and I was just
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Tom very very much.
Speaker 3: I respect him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we'll connect to maybe when you come to Vegas.
Speaker 1: We'll do it all on once.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: I'd love that.
Speaker 1: So Hey, Paul, it's Alex and Rose from the hard
Speaker 1: Rock Great. Getting to meet you at the fight was amazing.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you fight again.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: I guess you saw you there. Hey Paul, congrats on
Speaker 1: I'm winning the fight. Have you This is pro resident Okay,
Speaker 1: we're caught up. So just the last thing you want
Speaker 1: to end with? What's next for you? I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people have mentioned Andrew Tate.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, I'm I'm leaving that option open.
Speaker 3: I would love to do it. I think it would
Speaker 3: be a really really big deal. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going to happen, but we'll see, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm I know I said that that was my last one,
Speaker 3: but it's uh, it depends, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It depends if it's the right per like the right
Speaker 3: fight and you know, the right money and all of that,
Speaker 3: then yes. But if not, then you know, I don't
Speaker 3: need to Like, I don't need to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't let these voters like rip you off
Speaker 1: and not show you your worth like you and Tate
Speaker 1: with two insane numbers. It would be just a massive fight.
Speaker 1: And he's a legit kickboxer too. Yeah, so he's got
Speaker 1: like a huge fighting career. You guys needed one of you.
Speaker 1: He thought you guys both fought once recently. So the
Speaker 1: fight makes sense in so many aspects.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does.
Speaker 3: Like that was one of the reasons, like I was
Speaker 3: when people ask me about and I thought about him,
Speaker 3: like that fight makes sense. Like out of any other
Speaker 3: fight that I could do, that one makes the most sense.
Speaker 2: It's it would be huge.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're around the same age, you know,
Speaker 3: around the same kind of background as far as fighting goes.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't have I have nothing like
Speaker 3: personal against the guy. Yeah, I mean it's not personal.
Speaker 3: It's just like I would love to do it, you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 2: I think it would be cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually liked Take you know, obviously don't like the
Speaker 1: cam business and that stuff he did, but he stepped away.
Speaker 4: I've met him before and his brother like, I.
Speaker 1: Like him, But you you're fighting him makes sense, you know,
Speaker 1: And obviously what happens, I'm gonna be in your corner.
Speaker 2: Thank you please. I'd love to have you in the
Speaker 2: in the corner, man, it would mean a lot.
Speaker 3: But uh tay if you're out there man, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: if someone wants to pay right for it, that would right.
Speaker 2: They want to pay right for what I mean we
Speaker 2: could do for.
Speaker 1: You last or even Jake Paul I think he's is
Speaker 1: he throwing running that Netflix show? They're throwing some money around.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if Netflix.
Speaker 2: Will never let me on. No, not with this thing
Speaker 2: on my es.
Speaker 1: It is never retarded. Oh you're not allowed to have
Speaker 1: certain things? Is this pure insanity?
Speaker 3: But yet they wanted me to cover I gotta tell
Speaker 3: you before I go, this is money.
Speaker 2: Like they wanted me to cover the tattoo up right, So.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, no problems, Like
Speaker 3: I got a temporary one I'm gonna put on knowing
Speaker 3: full well I knew full well that that ship was
Speaker 3: gonna come off in the middle of that night.
Speaker 2: I fucking knew it.
Speaker 3: So like I just put it on and I showed
Speaker 3: up like, yeah, see it's covered, no problem, right, don't
Speaker 3: worry about it, and like I showed it to him
Speaker 3: literally like a few minutes before I was about to
Speaker 3: go out, So there was nothing that they could do.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, it's but Kane Laska has brown pride across
Speaker 1: his chest.
Speaker 4: That doesn't bother me.
Speaker 3: He's a loud right, that's fine for him.
Speaker 1: You can't have white pread.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with whitebread?
Speaker 1: No respect? And so I messed with this kid and
Speaker 1: the guy let my jail the next day and he
Speaker 1: went in fifteen mile car chase, ran the guy off
Speaker 1: the road. Shut him. Yo.
Speaker 2: I have to say I respect Kave Alaska's for doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he went to he dude, he I don't
Speaker 3: even know what he went to jail for, to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, Like he shouldn't have went to jail
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: No, he ag If I was not Dury, there's no
Speaker 1: way I would convict. Would just be like, no, nope,
Speaker 1: he didn't do it. I don't think anything.
Speaker 3: He didn't literally exactly what every parent would do, every
Speaker 3: good parent would do exactly exactly he did it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: everyone exactly.
Speaker 2: People say it, but he did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's just like fuck that, Like, why did that
Speaker 1: piece of ship scum? And people be like, oh, well
Speaker 1: he shot his father. You know, like, yeah, the guy
Speaker 1: was helping him, he was an accomplice, So yeah, okay
Speaker 1: he shot him good.
Speaker 4: By exact thoughts.
Speaker 1: People trying to get deserve and you maybe you got
Speaker 1: dangered in the car chase, but you know what, no one,
Speaker 1: no one got hurt other than the scumbag.
Speaker 2: Right, you get what your fucking deserve, man, And that's
Speaker 2: what matters.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine Kane Glaska has chasing you, he's scared alive,
Speaker 1: he is scaring champion.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a big son of a bitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like two eighty just jacked.
Speaker 3: Just fucking hell, man, He's like he's like he's like
Speaker 3: a fucking Aztec descendant of one of those warrior or
Speaker 3: some back then.
Speaker 1: Or one of the giants on Crazy. I'm okay. And
Speaker 1: he's always been playing respectful. I the Brown pride. You know,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you be proud of with people? Why can't
Speaker 1: we be proud?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I I question that all the time.
Speaker 3: Why can't we?
Speaker 2: But they can?
Speaker 3: I Mean, it's it's a it's a definitely a very
Speaker 3: strange thing. But I think because of people like ourselves,
Speaker 3: people are taking a lot more pride in it now.
Speaker 3: I seen I'll leave you with this my fight. I
Speaker 3: seen the community rally around me in such a way,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean That it was not It
Speaker 3: was not oh you're this fan, guy like you, like
Speaker 3: that guy you don't like, but like everybody white people
Speaker 3: were like, yo, we want you to win. We want
Speaker 3: you to win. Everybody was together and that meant more
Speaker 3: to me. The getting to win for the community meant
Speaker 3: more to me than I could possibly express into words.
Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that to see everybody come together
Speaker 3: behind me, it was a beautiful moment in my life
Speaker 3: that I will never forget. And I thank all of
Speaker 3: the fans, even people who were fans of other people
Speaker 3: like Nick or something, and you wanted to you wanted
Speaker 3: me to win, Like, thank you, I love you, And
Speaker 3: it truly means the world to me.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: And I think you really are changing culture because it's
Speaker 1: showing us, oh, we are allowed to be proud. And
Speaker 1: I think they're realizing it too. A lot of these
Speaker 1: orders like, oh we can be pride, proud, Why can't
Speaker 1: they be proud? So it's like the cultures change it. Man,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being you. Thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on my stream of course.
Speaker 2: Of course, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: in my corner and brother, I love you man. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much Jake for doing this for me and
Speaker 3: helping me and you know, calling me after the fight,
Speaker 3: making sure I was okay, you know, calling me before
Speaker 3: the fight, you know, wanting to help out. You know
Speaker 3: you were. You were there for me like a true friend,
Speaker 3: and I will never forget it.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, I said.
Speaker 1: Right for the second I met you, I knew you
Speaker 1: were a real one and I felt so bad when
Speaker 1: I called you like the fights tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a couple of weeks off. Still
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh.
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Speaker 2: You up too, man, all right, brother, Thanks guys, Thank
Speaker 2: you bro. See you guys. Rush