WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.919 Kf I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:10.119 The house Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. You 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:14.599 know this very program, also the house Whisper podcast that 4 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:19.960 you can listen to anytime, anywhere on demand, hundreds of episodes, 5 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:24.399 all searchable by topic. Your home improvement reference library. That's 6 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.480 what we've built for you here. And if you're thinking 7 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.559 to yourself, you know what, I love everything that you 8 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:33.439 talk about on the show. 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I want to talk 21 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.519 to Gene. Hey, Gene, welcome home. 22 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.959 Hello, Hello, how can I help you? 23 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.200 I came home from Thanksgiving to find a pinhole leak 24 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:28.040 into my garage and called my plumber out, and we've 25 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:32.000 decided that since my house is like thirty seven years old, 26 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:36.920 it's time for a total repipe, because I've had pinhole 27 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:42.000 leaks in several other places too over the years. So 28 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:48.079 I've got a quote from one person who's using pecks, 29 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.280 and I had a second one come in that was 30 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.680 kind of not confident with the type of pecks he's using. 31 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.040 Is the best? 32 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.760 Should I insist on just upidoor or is there other 33 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.599 manufacturers that are just as good as pecks. 34 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:13.360 It's it's really okay, okay, so PEX piping. Just to 35 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.120 set the stage here, Jean's got a house thirty five 36 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.240 years old copper piping, and it's begun to pit from 37 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.479 the inside, which means it's not been busted by anybody. 38 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.280 It's just literally starting to seep leak out of these 39 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:31.479 tiny pits. Because especially when it comes to copper in 40 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:34.759 the ground, copper is not a lifelong. 41 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.000 Thing that we used to think that it was. 42 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.479 It's got about a twenty twenty five year lifespan to 43 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.479 it before trouble starts occurring, So time to repipe. Can 44 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:53.639 a repipe overhead using pex pes cross stranded polyethylene tubing 45 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.759 and PEX as a concept. I love it. I love it. 46 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:58.639 I love it. I love it. 47 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:03.319 And it's not so much the manufacturer gene that I 48 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:08.759 am primarily concerned about. It's the type okay, up and 49 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:11.840 or Is, I think is the manufacturer that we use 50 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.599 out here more than any other when it comes to 51 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:18.080 PEX work in a house, because they make it, and 52 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:20.560 they make it well. But what you're after is type 53 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:25.680 A type A PEX, okay, because there is a type 54 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.120 B PEX. A type B PEX has its limitations. Number one, 55 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.240 it's not as flexible. Number two, because it's not as flexible, 56 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.960 it cannot be attached and built into a system using 57 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:48.520 expansion joints. And that is the only fitting that I 58 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:54.400 use when it comes to PEX is expansion couplings, not 59 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:00.639 not rings, not bans, and not clamps. We use the expands, 60 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.240 which means there's a tool that goes into the end 61 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.240 of the pipe and literally spreads the pipe open from 62 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.000 the inside out temporarily. That allows you to insert a 63 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.080 barbed fitting into that end, and then over the next 64 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:20.639 literally sixty seconds, the pipe contracts around that barbed fitting 65 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:24.720 and it just gets tighter and tighter. And tighter. Literally, 66 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.079 it is the only plumbing fitting on the planet that 67 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.199 gets better the older it becomes. Okay, I personally don't 68 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:39.160 trust PEX systems that use the crimped bands on the 69 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:43.319 top or hose clamps or anything like that. I've seen 70 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.600 too many of them end up with leaks or failures, 71 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:52.079 and so we only use expansion fittings and to do 72 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.680 that you need PEX type A. 73 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:05.800 Okay, great. Do you also not like the epoxy coated 74 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.000 thing that they shoot through your pipes? I can't imagine 75 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.680 how that would possibly work, but do you have an 76 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.199 opinion on that process? 77 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:13.519 Okay? 78 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:18.839 So yeah, to avoid repiping sometimes, you know what, I've 79 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.160 seen it work. I've seen it work and I've seen 80 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.759 it work well at times, so you should if you're 81 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.680 interested in it, you should get a quote for it 82 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.240 as well. And that is but it's got to be 83 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.439 not from your run of the rip mill plumber. You 84 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.319 really need to get this from a quote from a 85 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:39.120 company that does this as their specialty, because it's it's 86 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.560 about putting epoxy on the inside of your copper lines, 87 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.439 and it's got to be blown through at high pressure, 88 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.639 and it's got to be a there's an art and 89 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.920 a science to doing this, and and the problem is 90 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.680 if the pressure isn't high enough, and if the process 91 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:01.959 isn't done by an experienced epoxy installer, then it can 92 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.839 actually clog up your pipes, you know, and reduce the 93 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.199 interior diameter of those copper pipes so significantly that it 94 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:13.920 just causes a whole world of problems unto itself. But 95 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:19.439 it is a viable way of renewing a copper ground 96 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.279 system for water, and that is blowing epoxy. And essentially, 97 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.800 when it's blown in high pressure in just the right way, 98 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:29.399 it forms an epoxy inner lining. It's like sliding a 99 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:34.079 pipe inside a pipe, and it can get you years 100 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.839 and years and years more. Now, the question is doing 101 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.399 that with the whole house. Will that actually be more 102 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.920 or less expensive than just abandoning the copper and running 103 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.399 pecks overhead to locations. I can't answer that question for 104 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.720 you because it could change based on the house, the style, 105 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.839 the configuration, the accessibility and so on. But if you're 106 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.839 interested in it, I always encourage everybody why not make 107 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.879 the call windows Shopping is free, dreaming is free, and 108 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.680 especially when it comes to a big dollar item that 109 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:09.079 you're about to spend money on Why not know that 110 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.240 you know for sure that what you have picked is 111 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.720 the best financial and long term option for your home. 112 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.240 So if there is this alternative treatment or therapy, just 113 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.639 like going to the doctor and like both typically we 114 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.319 handle your problem this way. There is this alternative treatment, 115 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.040 I want to hear all about it, if for no 116 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:31.319 other reason, so that I look at it and say, yeah, okay, no, 117 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.600 let's go with the main therapy for this. You never know, 118 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:41.160 so look at the costs, get quotes, but go with somebody. 119 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.639 If you're thinking about the epoxy, go with a company 120 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.759 that does it, that guarantees the results, and that has 121 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.959 a lot of experience doing it. All right, Gene, thank 122 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.680 you for your question and for the call. When we 123 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:55.959 come back, more of your calls. 124 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.120 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand and 125 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.319 from KFI AM six forty. 126 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.800 Dean Sharp, the House Whisper at your service. We're talking 127 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.800 eclectic decor today, but right now we are taking calls. 128 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:13.720 I want to go back to the phones and not 129 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:21.720 waste another second. Let's talk to hey, Deborah, Deborah, welcome home. 130 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.240 Thank you. My question is I want to convert my 131 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:32.799 shower tub into a walk and shower. However, the tile 132 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:37.279 that I currently three walls, I really like it, so 133 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.080 I don't want to I prefer not to rip that out. 134 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.720 So then what do I do about the area where 135 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:47.759 the bathtub was? 136 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.600 Hmmm, that's a good question. All right. I got a 137 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:52.799 couple of questions for you. 138 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:57.320 How long ago was the tile above the bathroom done? 139 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.879 Do you have more of it? Or can you get 140 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:00.480 more of it? 141 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.679 I don't have more of it, and it would be 142 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:10.720 very very hard to to try to. I can't even 143 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:14.120 remember where I got that current tile. 144 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.120 Yeah, all right, I'm only asking because from a from 145 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.240 a technical contracting point of view, Uh, it's not the 146 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:27.240 it's not. It's not a very difficult thing to preserve. 147 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.960 To you choose a line and the tile there, and 148 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.559 very carefully demo what goes below it, and then if 149 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.480 we have more of the same tile to be able 150 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.559 to extend that down so that at the end of 151 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.279 the whole process it doesn't look like anything was done 152 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.480 except just tiling a shower. But that's only if that 153 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.039 exact kind of tile is available. In the case that 154 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.559 it's not, then you have to make a decision. 155 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.039 If you're really. 156 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:59.120 Set on saving the tile above the tub line. The 157 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.919 question then, is you gotta make your thinking a little 158 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.120 bit more flexible from a design point of view. Here, 159 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:08.399 the question is what kind of tile can we find 160 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:10.759 that compliments. 161 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.519 Doesn't try to match it? Don't try to match it. 162 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.240 Okay, if you don't know exactly what that tile is, 163 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:20.960 don't try and get something that is almost that because 164 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.360 very much in keeping with the principles that I've been 165 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.679 talking about today, this principle everybody should always remember in 166 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.960 design and decor. Uh, you've got two choices. You hit 167 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.519 the nail directly on the head, you match it exactly, 168 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.559 or or the alternative, miss it by a mile, go 169 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.799 with something very complimentary but very very different. We don't 170 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.000 want to try and get kind of close, because in 171 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:52.080 the design and architectural world, a near miss is a 172 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.360 total failure. I mean, it just looks like a mistake. Okay, 173 00:10:55.480 --> 00:11:00.120 So the question will be for you to h to 174 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:05.000 come up with a design, a tile, a tone, a texture, 175 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.879 a color. This is a great question in keeping with 176 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:12.200 the eclectic theme of the day, that works with the 177 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.440 tile that's up there. Okay, and then you're gonna have 178 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.000 to pick. You may have to sacrifice, well, you're gonna 179 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.519 have to sacrifice a couple of courses of your tile 180 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.240 in order to effectively remove the tub. Okay, there's no 181 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.360 guarantee that we can keep every single bit of tile 182 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.919 there to get that tub out of there. Maybe a 183 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.080 course or two up needs to be removed to safely 184 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.919 get the tub out and then to rewater proof behind it. 185 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.080 But then you had to pick a point where the 186 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.279 old tile's gonna stop. Maybe we put a detail band around, 187 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.720 even like a wainscot, you know you would find on 188 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.159 a house, and then drop new tile down into the 189 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:48.840 pan below. 190 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.840 That's the idea, yeah, okay. 191 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:58.720 And then right now the baptub spout is within the tile. 192 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:09.399 Can that bathtub spout be I don't know what cut. 193 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:09.720 Off, not. 194 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:15.279 Stopped off or nodded off or whatever however you would 195 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:15.679 say it. 196 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:22.399 The bathtub spout can be completely unscrewed and removed, and 197 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.000 you're just going to be left with a hole in 198 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:24.440 the tile. 199 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:28.919 Okay. And then so that that that piece of tile 200 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.720 I need to put like maybe a medallion or of 201 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:32.919 some sort in there. 202 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:36.600 Something or or or you work above that line for 203 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:37.679 the new tile down. 204 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.799 Got it? Okay? Okay, Okay, all right, all right, that 205 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.159 kind of clears my mind about how to approach it. 206 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:52.679 I don't feel so intimidated. That helps, yes, all right. 207 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.679 Well, thank you, thanks Deborah, thank you so much for 208 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:57.879 your call. You can just see, you know, I love it. 209 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.080 You can see the wheels, you can hear the wheels turn. 210 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.759 She's like, okay, okay, I'm working it out. I'm working 211 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:04.279 it out, and just give her a little bit more 212 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:07.840 direction as to which way tohead. Do we have time 213 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.039 for another And we're going to make time for another call. 214 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:14.759 I'll tell you that right now. Who I want to 215 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:16.519 talk to, Let's talk to Janet. 216 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:21.200 Janet, welcome home, Hi, Hi, thanks for taking my call. 217 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.799 I looked into a house and the kitchen sink is 218 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:30.039 a double and it's not useful at all because the 219 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:34.399 facet overhangs the rent area and I have about an 220 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.279 inch and a half that it overhangs the dirty area 221 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.080 and the disposal. So I want to replace it. It's 222 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:47.039 an under the sink under the counter fawcet and I 223 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.519 was going to do it myself, but I realized that 224 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:52.919 the disposal and things may need to be moved and 225 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.399 pipes cut and you know this and that, so then 226 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.159 I thought, well, I'll just go to home depun look 227 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:02.120 and I found some nice sinks. But how do I 228 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.840 know that's the right measurement? How do I know when 229 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.039 I get it home? And then do I call a 230 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.039 plumber first? Do I call it contractor So I look 231 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.399 that up and apparently I call a plumber first. But 232 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:17.600 I'm just you know, I think, and the sinks are 233 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.519 deeper now, now they're deeper. So now I'm gonna have 234 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:25.919 definitely some things rearranged underneath. And so I kind of 235 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.080 like want a plumber to go depot and say, here, 236 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:31.519 measure my sink and then come with me and help 237 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.320 me pick a sink and then put it in. Is 238 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:34.399 that what do I do? 239 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:39.879 I hear it. 240 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.399 I hear the distress and the confusion in your voice. 241 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.320 All right, So here's the thing. This is actually pretty 242 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.840 good news. Okay, that you have an undermount sink. An 243 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.039 undermount sink means that the countertop is doing its own 244 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:53.720 thing on top. What kind of counter do you have, 245 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:54.000 by the. 246 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:59.360 Way, it's probably courts or granted I'm not sure. 247 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:06.200 Solid yeah, solid stone countertop, whether it's synthetic or natural stone. 248 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.679 That thing and the sink doesn't have its own edging. 249 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.120 It mounts underneath that. So here's what I'm meant. 250 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.799 There's some brackets and I've measured it, but I am 251 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.080 assuming my sink needs to be thirty three inches wide 252 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.639 based on the thirty one inches I have on top. 253 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:31.240 So here's the thing under mount sinks. The good news 254 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.600 is you got a little bit of play. Okay, you 255 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:36.720 don't have to hit that one right on the head 256 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:40.080 because it's under mount, which means that the countertop hangs 257 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.320 over the edge of you know, the edge of the 258 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.639 sink a little bit. Now, you don't have a ton 259 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.080 of play. In other words, let's say you have I'm 260 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.320 just going to use some arbitrary numbers here. Let's say 261 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.120 you have a thirty inch wide hole in the countertop. Okay, 262 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.399 thirty inches wide. It would see, it would look silly 263 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.720 if you mounted undermounted a thirty six inch wide sink 264 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.080 underneath it, because the countertop would be hanging over you know, 265 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.320 three inches on each side. Okay, that wouldn't look good 266 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.440 at all. Okay, but that thirty inch hole. Uh, if 267 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:19.039 you measure the insides of sinks that you're looking at 268 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.039 and you're like, well, this one's thirty one. That one's 269 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.320 thirty two, and I don't know which one will work, 270 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:27.759 but they'll both work fine. 271 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:28.440 Okay. 272 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:32.639 The difference of a quarter inch half an inch of overhang, 273 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.360 they're not a big deal for the right sink. And 274 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.200 the way that you find out what the best sink 275 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.440 size is, you don't think about the outside with the 276 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.960 sink at all. You want to look at on an 277 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.960 undermount sink where it actually where the walls actually come up. 278 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.440 So you're just going to take an interior measurement. If 279 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.240 you got a thirty inch hole, then you know you're 280 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.919 gonna need at least a thirty and a half or 281 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:03.240 slightly larger inch wide sync so that it goes up 282 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.960 underneath and it hides its edge underneath. The think dimension again, though, 283 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.319 if you find something you're absolutely in love with and 284 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:13.720 it's a tiny bit larger than that, it's probably no 285 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:18.880 big deal at all. So you pick that and you know, 286 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.440 and whatever depth you want, and then you let the 287 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.000 plumber work out the rest, let the plumber work out 288 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.720 the garbagees bols on this, and that you know you 289 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.640 got your new big single base and sinc. You call 290 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.279 the plumber out and you're like I want this mounted 291 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:36.359 under there, go for it and get me all hooked up. 292 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.759 All right, So I buy a sink that I think 293 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:44.240 is the appropriate measurements, and then I call the plumber. 294 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.400 Yep, okay, yeah, yeah, I would. 295 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.599 You know, I'm not saying I'm not saying that it's 296 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:55.359 a terrible idea to shop with a plumber, although you know, 297 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.319 I just don't think it's necessary in your situation at all. 298 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:03.559 And and you know, if you just follow that simple 299 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:06.440 advice that I just gave you there, as far as 300 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.559 the sizing, just as long as you're just slightly over 301 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.319 the size of the hole that's in your countertop in 302 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.279 width and depth, you're gonna be fine. You can't go 303 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.759 so wide as to run into the edges of the 304 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.720 cabinet body below, So that's too big and too small 305 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:25.960 is obviously too small. But you know you've got a 306 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.519 little play there, so find the sync that you love. 307 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:30.440 The reason I don't. 308 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.880 Suggest a bad mouth plumbers, they're contractors in general, of 309 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:39.039 which I am one. The reason I don't usually shut 310 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:42.440 encourage clients to shop with their contractor is that the 311 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.839 contractor they've got other interests, like how easy is it 312 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.960 going to be for me to install this thing, and 313 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.200 so here they are here, they are nudging you towards 314 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.640 something that's like your second or third choice. I don't 315 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:55.839 want you to do that, okay. The fact is, if 316 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.240 it's possible, it's possible. If it fits, it fits, And 317 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.079 you know, I'm paying you to take care of the 318 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.000 rest of it and get that thing installed for me. 319 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.480 That's it the end, and you get the sink that 320 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:06.880 you want. 321 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.480 Great, thank you. I'm so good. I don't have to 322 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.519 do it myself, all right, thank you so much. 323 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.880 All right, dan it You're welcome. You take care, all right, y'all. 324 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.880 When we come back, let's talk about some more eclectic design, 325 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:22.480 shall we. 326 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:27.039 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 327 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:28.599 KFI AM sixty. 328 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.000 You like that little tune right there, Tina was like 329 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.799 doing doing a little h I was gonna say, a 330 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.920 table dance. That's not the right thing. That's not the 331 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.079 that's not the right way to describe it. Sitting here, 332 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.079 she was starting to shimmy a little bit with that one. 333 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.440 You're Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. We are 334 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:54.359 talking about the secrets of ish and that being by 335 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:57.799 what I mean by that is eclectic decre pulling off 336 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:01.359 eclectic decor, which everybody he has to learn to do 337 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:03.720 if you're going to make your home beautiful, because no 338 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:08.000 matter how pure you think you're going to achieve a 339 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.839 design theme in a room, real life has a way 340 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.440 of just sneaking right in and introducing elements that aren't 341 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:17.880 in accordance with that theme, but things that are important 342 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:19.759 to you, and so you have to deal with them. 343 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.559 They can be integrated into a theme. And that's why 344 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:31.400 I talk about ish because it's farmhouse ish, it's cottage ish, 345 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:37.599 it's colonial ish. It's not utterly pure. Okay, when has that? 346 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.839 You know, did I mention Nazi Germany yesterday on the show? 347 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:44.440 It's that the right thing to say on a decor show. 348 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.279 You know, just this whole idea of the pure races. Oh, 349 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.400 come on, come on, it's the twenty first century. Take 350 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.440 a twenty three and meters and find out what a 351 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:59.640 mutt you are. I mean, honestly, genetically speaking, every human 352 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.119 being is an Ish. And uh, you know, you may 353 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:07.880 be I wish Ish, right, but it's an Ish. There's 354 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.279 a there's an Ish factor to all of us and 355 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:13.240 to our lives. And to our homes. And that doesn't 356 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:17.359 mean that it's not beautiful. It's just a question of 357 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.119 how are we going to treat these, uh, these diverse 358 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:24.559 elements in a way that they communicate with each other. 359 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:28.160 So there you have it, all right, back to our 360 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:32.920 list of rules and suggestions. Oh my goodness, that was 361 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.200 a That was a droid that just went off here 362 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:39.599 in the studio. Okay, back to the list of suggestions. 363 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.279 Here is one of the most important things that I 364 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:48.119 can tell you, uh, and that is finding ish the ishness, okay, 365 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:53.200 the the common ground in between two elements by seeing 366 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:59.079 if you can't get them to share one significant characteristic. Okay, 367 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.880 I'll give you this is not the only kind of example, 368 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.119 but I'm going to give you a perfect example of this. 369 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.880 We have a grandfather clock. In In fact, you can 370 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:12.039 see this clock, I think on a video that Tina 371 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.920 posted just yesterday. Was it yesterday? When did you do 372 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.240 the little pan of our dining room and living room? 373 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.440 So this again, I'm going to send you back to 374 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.039 social media and you can see this. This was not 375 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.400 intended to be this way. We're just sharing kind of like, hey, 376 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:30.640 look we got our Christmas tree up. But there's a 377 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.519 there's a video pan on our social media home with Dean. 378 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:39.400 It's probably the second post down now, and you'll see 379 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.440 a little shot of our dining room and we've got 380 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.960 this tall wains cutting in our dining room and some 381 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.079 wallpaper at the end, and it's got this distinctive blue, 382 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.640 just a blue that we love. And then we pan 383 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:56.599 across a big glass door opening across our Christmas tree 384 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.599 and over into the living room by the fireplace, and 385 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.079 as we're crossing over, you're going to see a grandfather 386 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:08.720 clock standing there. This is a grandfather clock that Tina 387 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:13.519 inherited from her grandparents. Now, this is not an ancient clock. 388 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:18.480 It's not an antique. Okay, it's vintage. It's it's from 389 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:23.359 it's from it's from the nineteen hundreds, so it's not 390 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.759 it's vintage technically, and that when when did they buy it, 391 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:31.160 Like nineteen eighty or something, you know, And it's and 392 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.839 it's not the you know, it's it's not the end 393 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.400 all of grandfather clocks. But it's a real mechanism grandfather 394 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:40.119 clock and it was done in kind of that classic 395 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.799 nineteen eighties honey oak. You know, the color of everything 396 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:48.799 in the nineteen eighties. And so here's the point. The 397 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.000 point is that colored of oak doesn't really work with 398 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:57.480 our home and our decor. But this is a grandfather clock, 399 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.640 and it means the world to and me because it 400 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:04.799 meant the world to her grandparents. All right, it reminds 401 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.480