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Speaker 1: Our difference is worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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an alien threat. Perhaps we need some outside universal threat

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to make us recognize this common bound.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Across the Pond with the Paranormal UK

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Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome, Welcome to Across

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the Pond. I am here with Liam. I go by

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Sky Fawkes and for today, this is our first dual episodes.

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Was supposed to be three of us. But you know,

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things happen.

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Speaker 4: Life happens, mechanical issues happen, which is always.

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Speaker 3: When you least want them, and always on times that

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are you know, the least convenient. It's like, oh, I

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have a podcast recording to to do. The car is

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gonna break down? A fuck, of course.

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Speaker 2: It is, clearly, and they had something important to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you know the powers that be are

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trying to prevent him from you know, from telling his story,

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from telling his side of things. That's why they, you know,

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remotely broke down his car.

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Speaker 2: Well that should set the tone.

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Speaker 3: So topic of today, which we have been discussing already

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in private a bit and a gosh like a good

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almost hour before we even started recording. Also, you know,

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just kinda get to know each other, of course, since

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we are both new additions to across the pond. Yeah,

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I'm gonna talk about you know, a very hot topic.

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Seems to getting hot, seems to be getting hotter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's daily almost at the moment. Yeah,

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you're probably right. Realistically, I think maybe I'm overshooting things

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a little bit. Yeah, probably maybe a weekly basis. Things

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are progressive. Yeah, yeah, this arena.

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Speaker 3: Aliens and UAPs or UFOs or what is it unidentified?

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I mean, is that still like UAP?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, UAP so the new monika it attached to it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a few years ago, I think that they had

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a big issue with people calling him UFOs because it's

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too much of a buzzword in the sci fi community

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and it's almost not in touch with the realms of reality.

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So I think they did a rewording of it just

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to sort of lends some more credibility to it. So

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they've gone with UAPs identify aerial phenomena.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, giving it a shiny new.

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Speaker 2: Code seems to have done the trick though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, it does, and they're not just aerial

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like they seem to like come out of the water absolutely, yeah,

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like on the water basis, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a good starting point.

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Speaker 4: Is I think for those who are listening and tuning

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in that may not have their finger on the pulse

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of this topic, it's I think it's important to set

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the scene on just how relevant this topic is at

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the minute. This isn't you know, like yesteryear where the

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timfoil Hat Brigade would come out and start talking about

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UFOs and everybody else that's laugh at them. You know,

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this is really picked up momentum massively, especially in the

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last eight years or so, which we touched on earlier

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with the New York Times releasing those leaked videos from

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the Pentagon, and that's when sort of things really started hot,

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you know, in the mainstream as mainstream as it possibly

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could be.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not on the mainstream media, but there are.

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Speaker 4: You know, news outlets and journalists on the fringe of

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mainstream that are talking about this, and there are very

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important people also joining in with the conversation. And I think,

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like I said at the beginning of this statement, is

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paragraphic show says to really set the scene that this

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isn't just you know, crazy talk anymore. This is real

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talk that is happening daily between some of the most

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influential people on this planet. This is a very very

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real subject, and it's very serious and it needs to

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be taken seriously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you know, all the top people

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from the world's governments are you know, taking it seriously,

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and especially from a military standpoint, taking it as a

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a credible threat m absolutely, which is something you know

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that we could get into because there has been at

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least one project dedicated to you know, alien threats or

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you know, threats from outside of our planet at least.

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taking it seriously, if the government is taking it seriously

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from just phase value, whether you believe those are credible

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people or not, you know, they are very high up

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they do. You know, they're very credible people. You know,

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they they have the papers, they have the studies, they

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have the credentials, so they're yeah, you know, maybe we

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should start taking it seriously as well, and not just

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as something that you put so eloquently. The the Tinfoil

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Hat Brigade can't stop talking about.

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Speaker 4: Well, the reality of the situation is everybody on this

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planet is taking it seriously Apart from the general public. Now,

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why is that.

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 4: Why is it the public who are not taking it seriously? Yeah,

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everybody else is all the men in suits, they're taking

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this very seriously. And now you can argue that there

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is a cloak of you know, misleading information over the years,

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and there is, I think there's platantly been a massive

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effort to cover this whole thing up, you know, and

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we're in twenty twenty five and there's still people walking

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around in this world that don't know.

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Speaker 2: About this topic. So it's it's clear that this has

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been a.

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Speaker 4: Massive cover up, possibly one of the greatest scams in

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human history.

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Speaker 2: Really, it really is that serious.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: And we're we're not talking about you know, little green

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Man from Mars because I think the the general let's

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say educated, don't want to say uneducated, but less educated public.

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you know, maybe that's the stereotype that they're still thinking of.

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Very much formed by popular media. Hollywood had absolutely major

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major role in you know, how we perceive things, including aliens.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and there is peace in ignorance, you know, it's

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it's a lot easier to deny the existence of something

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rather than deal with the reality of the situation and

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what that could potentially mean for your own little personal

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peace of the world that you live in.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's as we you know, they're saying,

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is isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Read the red pill or the blue pill? Are you

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awake or unawake?

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the difference between the people walking around

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out there. You know, I've just bothered to look into

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it and really take it seriously and examine the data.

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of claims are made based on hearsay. You know, there

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is data, There is tangible data right there to be

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seen and found that backs up the claims made by

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various officials over the years that have categorically stated and

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better their livelihood than the fact that this is a

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very real phenomena. And I don't want to say threat

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because I don't believe it to be a threat. And

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anybody that's had any experience with the phenomena has already

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said and the categorically stated many times that there is

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no threat here to be had. This is a from

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what people have said, majority of it's majoratively, it's a peaceful,

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you know experience, whatever that may be, loving experience. There's

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a lot of emotions, but for the most part positive

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based around any sort of contact with ets and UAPs,

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and that seems to be the case over the years.

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Say that before we move into it in real depth,

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is that there's no fear as far as I'm aware

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and concerned to be had on the topic. It's more

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one of curiosity and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, absolutely, And you know, you could even kind

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of since I am more of a spiritual thinker, a

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could minded individual, you know, you could kind of attached

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to that the talk about you know, star seeds, which

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is also kind of a fact. You know, human DNA

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is not native to our planet, which you know, looking

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at the at the grand scheme of things, might explain

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a lot, you know, it might also explain how we

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how we go around taking care or you know, really

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not taking care of our planet. But just you know,

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human DNA itself has come from outer space somewhere at

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a certain point in time. When that was or how

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that came to be is you know, is still up

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for discussion. You know that whatever whatever you want, I'm

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sure there are many different sources who will tell you

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many different things about it. But the fact is we

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are not from this planet.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of theories on it, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of I mean, we talked about

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one just previously, the Assertophiles. We mentioned it now in

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that particular and if you are interested, you can YouTube it.

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Area fifty two is a really good source to go to.

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It did an in depth reading of the four piece,

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the four part Lessertophiles. It covers it in detail.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: The premise of the interview was a Swedish gentleman interviewed a.

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Speaker 2: Reptilian species of et.

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Speaker 4: I say, at it's not actually it's an earthly but

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we don't want to go too crazy. What I don't

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want to do here is just go straight in and

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frighten everybody off that may be dipping the toe into

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the world of UAPs and start talking about reptilians and

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all sorts of crazy things.

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Speaker 2: There are theories.

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Speaker 4: And again this is one of those things, and I

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mentioned it before and again if you're new to this,

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you beginning of your journey potentially could start now and

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as you move through the topics and the subjects and

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you hear about this, and you learn about that, it

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becomes very evident that there is a grand picture and

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you start connecting some of these dots and things start

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to make sense, and this particular story or match up

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with this one and this, you know, and before you

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know it, you've got this picture and you see it

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the bigger picture. You start to see the puzzle coming together,

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and the Lessertophiles is one of them. You know, there's

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a lot of stuff that are crazy, stuff within the

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Lessertophiles that you think, I don't know, that seems a

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bit far fetched, But then you hear it against and

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Speaker 2: Story or you know, another.

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Speaker 4: Theory, and it marries up and you think it's two coincidence.

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topic for it not to be real. So let's get

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that off the table straight away. If you start there

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thinking this isn't real, I can tell you now what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's real. It's very real.

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Speaker 4: So let's get that out there straight away. This is real,

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and the way that we unpack it is very careful.

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We've got to be careful in the way that we

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unpack it. Shall I say because if you're listening for

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the first time and we go in with something really

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heavy straight away, it might it might switch you off.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I started very easy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can speak for yourself, but my introduction

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to this was very simple. Joe Rogan, he was just

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interviewing one of the US Air Force pilots that was

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involved with the TIC TAC phenomena. Again, if you don't

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know what that is, by all means, YouTube it.

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Speaker 2: You'll see it. The UAP phenomena.

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Speaker 4: And Ryan Graves was the pilot, Not Ryan Graves, Rattan Frevor,

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TAC and filmed it on his instruments within his his jet.

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was very interested in what he had to say. I

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couldn't believe it at first, much maybe the same as you.

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I was always one of those who thought, there's got

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to be ets out there, aliens out there. There's no

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way I can be ignorant enough to sit here and

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think we're the only intelligent species in the universe, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, there are so many different theories even about that,

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and my the one that I always always go to

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the one that I always you know, when this conversation

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comes up with you know, normal people, for as far

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as I know normal people. You know, It's like, there

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are so many other planets out there in you know,

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just the known universe, just the part of you know,

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everything that we have mapped that we know to exist.

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There are so many planets, and there are we we're

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also finding more and more planets who are in the

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so called Goldilocks zone with you know, their star, with

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their own son, you know, taking Earth as a base

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measurement of course, so you know, even in the Goldilocks zone,

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which according to know only earthly physics, should be a

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high possibility probability of some sort of life out there,

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or you know, a life form, because if it could

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happen on Earth, then other planets who you know, are

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very similar to Earth, maybe a bit maybe a bit bigger,

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maybe a bit smaller, but in the like around the

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same orbit. Why can these happen there? That's of course

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the first thing that you're going to look for. We

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have found well quite some and more and more each

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each year, each couple of years, and there are so

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many other planets. There are so many other stars, so

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many other suns. It seems even mathematically impossible that our

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planet is the only one out there with life, and

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broad spectrum that you can imagine, like even bacterial life

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is still life. You know, I don't necessarily mean that

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there are you know, another form of humans walking around

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or some other form of you know, bipedal creatures. Intelligent life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it depends what you thoughts are on

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the way that intelligent life evolves. Because in nature, one

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thing we do know is that life always takes and

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takes the root of least resistance everything. That's the evolution life.

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how we understand them. Now, is there an argument to

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suggest possibly doesn't matter where you are in the universe.

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enough time and there's enough resources, life will evolve in

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the same way everywhere I having hands, having eyes, having

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the senses, is that the optimimum, optimum way for a

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biological being to evolve i e.

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Speaker 2: A humanoid.

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Speaker 4: Is it rational to say that out there life always

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takes the same path i e. Two eyes and mouth,

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you know, the senses, the hands to make and grasp,

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and you know, make our own environment, our own essentially,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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if if you just like, you know, look at life

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on Earth, if you look at you know, birds, bats,

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certain what are mammals, you know, like dolphins, whales, they

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have you know, just very large fingers really, you know,

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especially with bats for example, what you think are their

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wings or you know, their hands, but with incredibly long

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fingers and very thin, flexible skin within them, so that

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that the form is is there. There seems to be

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some sort of a you know, let's call it the

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blueprint from where everything has has evolved. Is it possible

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that on some other planet, in some other galaxy, in

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some other solar system, the same thing happened.

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Speaker 4: The interesting thing about life for me on this planet

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and our particular little rock floating through the cosmos, is

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that we're the only species I suppose, unless you you know,

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you take monkeys and apes into consideration. But We're the

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only species that has taken the evolutionary tract that we

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have that has allowed us to be able to manipulate

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our outside and worldwide worldly environment with our hands and

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our thoughts, to be able to build, construct, and utilize

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the laws of physics to our will. Essentially, why is

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there no other species on this planet that has done that?

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And that leads me onto the assertain thing. Has our

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evolution been sped up as somebody, an intelligent form out

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there manipulated our genes? Why we the only one who can?

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You perceive the world in the way that we do.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that there are certain primate species. I

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would have to look up the exact details on this,

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but I do you believe that there are certain primate

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species on you know, on our planet who are now

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using very rudimentary stone tools.

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Speaker 2: Well, why are we so far ahead of them?

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Speaker 4: Because we're not just an evolutionary leap, We're in another realm.

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Speaker 2: Were way ahead. Why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, why did we the massive Why why

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did we as in the human Homo sapiens? Why did

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we take that jump and say the orangutangs didn't, other

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chimps didn't. Why what's so special about us, which which

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leads me onto the asserta thing and that does is

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one of the dots that you connect from the Lasertaphiles

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in the suggestion is from leserta Philes is there was

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an at civilization that came to Earth and they manipulated

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our genes in order to speed our evolution up, which

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would then aid them in what they were trying to do,

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i e. Mine resources and precious metals from the plant

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that we live on. They essentially manipulated our genes to

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make us their worker bees. So the question that I

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left there was has our genes been manipulated by another

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species in order to make us more efficient doing their

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will a mining resources for them, Which is something that

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is suggested that'd explain why we're so far ahead evolutionary

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than every other species on Earth.

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Speaker 3: It could, but like don't you think if they had

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the if they had the means, if they had the

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the technology to do that, that they would have the

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the technology to do it themselves. This is why again

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go through all the trouble too, you know, grab a

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you know, random primate species or you know, early hormonid

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species and inject them with you know whatever to you

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know or manipulate their DNA in such a way that

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they have become, you know, incredibly advanced. If you can

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do that, if you go can go through all that trouble,

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why not just mind it yourself? If you have the

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tools for genetic manipulation, you have basic mining tools or

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the capability to make basic mining tools.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is today, if you take away everything

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that's happened over the last god knows how many thousands

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of years, and you take today's civilization, if ets come

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down now and they tell us, are the commanders to

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do what they did years ago?

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Speaker 2: So build a pyramid?

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Speaker 4: For instance, if you come down now and you get

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humans to build you a pyramid I like the ones

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in Geezer, would it be the same. Because there's a

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lot of argument that even archaeologists today back it up

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that we as humans today without technology couldn't do what

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they have done. Now when you look back at some

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of the cave paintings and go on.

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Speaker 3: No, I I have a a bit of a explanation

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for that. We're we're gonna have to go more into

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the the spiritual realm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of spiritual texts a lot

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of spiritual believes, you know, most well known being the

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Bible says that no man has fallen, has fallen into matter.

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You know that we weren't always this, you know, this dense.

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If you will, you know, we were beings, you know, difine,

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beings of pure love and light. That is, if you

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you know, go according to you know, more Biblical scripture

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is more theosophical way of thinking, you know, Blavatsky, Steiner,

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those those people. So if you know we have fallen

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into matter, you could argue that, you know, the rest

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of the world, of our planet as we know it

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there is, is very dense, you know, not not always

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on the same level of density as we are. But

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you know, let's say the the entirety of the earth

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as a living being has fallen into matter. That could

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mean that those those stones, those you know, multiple one

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hundred thousand tons stones, were a lot less dense, a

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lot lighter than they are now. And it is a

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given fact that we are not at our technolog technological peak.

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We have peaked multiple times, you know, but you know

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in this, you know, in this round, in this you know,

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go around, we're definitely not at our technological peak. So

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that is it's it's it's a thought that I had.

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a little bit backed up by the Bible. And I

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want to preface the Bible are not literal texts. You know,

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they don't tell you literally what happened. The Bible is allegorical,

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it's astronomical, it's astrology, it's a cult, it's mysticism, it's

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it's pretty much anything but literal. So falling into matter,

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falling into density, it would make sense that, you know,

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in order for us to still survive on this Earth,

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either we would have to be have to be placed

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on a denser planet. Kind of also going back into

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the the notion that our DNA is not from here,

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you know, if we come from the Garden of Eden,

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this most definitely is not the Garden of Eden. I

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can tell you that much. You know, you're you're an Englishman,

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I'm a I'm a dutch Man. This is far from

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the garden.

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Speaker 4: If it has it's been chopped down, oh boy, has

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it a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: So you know, this is very much a dense planet.

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And I think with you know, the previous civilizations, there

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have been previous civilizations that were way more advanced technologically advanced,

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spiritually advanced than we are now. So with you know,

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less dense materials, I am absolutely sure it is possible,

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or even it has to be on a very large scale.

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But you know, through the power of simatics, sound vibrations,

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you can levitate objects, even rocks, you know, heavier rocks,

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through vibrations, sound vibrations. There are experiments done. There is

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a very well known video floating around the Internet of

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a I believe it's a Russian scientist at a kind

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of an expo who's making three types of rock floats,

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you know, one heavier than the other, and he's doing

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it through the use of simatics, the use of sound,

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use of vibration. So I do believe that we have

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built the pyramids, and but yeah, it's true, we would

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absolutely not be capable of doing that now. Absolutely, it's

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no way it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree, and that seems to be the general

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consensus from the scientific communities that we couldn't do that now. Now,

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I don't know if anybody's been keeping an eye on it,

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but recently this I suppose there's been a lot of

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interest in the pyramids in Egypt, potential structure found underneath.

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Speaker 2: But the one of the.

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Speaker 4: Things that's interesting, and then just bringing this up because

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you mentioned it with we're talking about sound frequencies to

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move heavy of it heavy objects. So the pyramid itself

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obviously them stones that make up the pyramid vary in size,

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but huge, right, they're huge and essentially unliftable by today's standards. Now,

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what they've got or what they've seen on the on

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paintings within side, you know, hieroglyphics within the pyramids in

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certain chambers, is that they've found depictions of the workers

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at the time moving these rocks and maneuvering them into position.

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the rocks themselves is a serpent, and a serpent depicts

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electricity from way back then. So there is an idea

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and this sort of goes hand in hand with potentially

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what they've discovered.

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Speaker 1: I e.

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Speaker 4: A generator, free energy generator that is part of the

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pyramid structure itself. I could imagine that we should watch

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this space a little further just to discover, you know,

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and see what's really going on there. I imagine there's

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going to be some peer peer reviews, you know, peer

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to peer reviews on the paper that's been released to

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confirm it, and depending on who the person is or

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who the people are doing those peer to peer reviews.

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And this is where it becomes a gray area for me.

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And we're going to that in a second, but we're

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talking about who is this information going to, who is

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controlling it? Are you who's confirming are denying the fact

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that this is real? And what's the legitimacy of their

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claim on that and who has got to benefit from that?

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This is where the corruption thing comes in. It's blatantly

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been at play over the years. You know, money follow

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the money, you know who sets the profit from this information?

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Which is why I'm very dubious when it comes to

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who's doing the information investigation.

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Speaker 2: Here, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And are the credible and do they want this information released?

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So but anyway back to the point of there, you know,

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there's a serpent on the rock which depicts electors to

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which goes hand in hand with potentially what they think

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they've discovered underneath it with being a free energy you know,

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essentially a device that creates energy which would enable them

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to then move these things or whatever else is that

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they're doing, and it does explain a lot. You know,

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this is just another one of those dots, does it.

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energy generator, I mean, obviously, that throws the whole world

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00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:31,559
into into chaos, essentially, because everything we'd known and believed

477
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,559
comes crashing down around us. And I think, and I

478
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,400
mentioned this this morning, if this is the case, and

479
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680
it does turn out to be true, and that there

480
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:44,440
is this free energy generator underneath within the pyramids, then

481
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,000
this could be their way, or that the establishment of

482
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,240
the world's way of breaking the idea of a soft disclosure.

483
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,240
Because let's imagine for a second, if you've been covering

484
00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,400
up this secret for potentially hundreds of years from the

485
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,599
public eye, if you are if President Trump or any

486
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680
other elected official of the world comes out and stands

487
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680
behind electing and then says to the world, yes, all

488
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,319
these years, it's true, you know they exist, they're here.

489
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:20,000
What comes next, that's horrid masses of questions. And those

490
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,000
questions aren't, says, necessarily, going to be good questions. There's

491
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:24,680
going to be people who are going to be held

492
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,279
to account for why this has been a secret, why

493
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,599
it's been kept a secret, what reasons it's been a secret,

494
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880
and how much it's cost to keep this a secret.

495
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,039
Because there's criminal activity here, and again this is something

496
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:37,920
that we'll no doubt covering a later topic if we're

497
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,960
dig into the bones of it now.

498
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:43,039
Speaker 3: So basically, will it be men in black or will

499
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:43,759
it be mors.

500
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,079
Speaker 2: Attacks men in black type situations?

501
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:50,039
Speaker 4: From what I've gathered over there, looking into the various encounters,

502
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:51,720
it seems to be that there are a man there

503
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,000
are a group of men in black that seem to

504
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:58,119
follow these encounters around and making sure people stay quiet. Now,

505
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,400
the point I was making regarding the pyramid as a

506
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,200
soft disclosure, this alleviates the need for people to answer

507
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:08,640
questions if there is a new discovery, and that new

508
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,720
discovery then leads to the information being released that there

509
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,200
are ets and they were responsible for helping with the

510
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,720
pyramids and providing humans with technology that assisted him in

511
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,880
these previous civilizations. That then takes the heat off a

512
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,799
lot of officials in the world that have been covering

513
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,599
this up because essentially they can ignore everything that's happened

514
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,759
previously and say, oh, we found it discovery and because

515
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:34,039
the discovery could be that groundbreaking for the average Joe,

516
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:36,680
not like us who's been keeping the finger on the

517
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880
pulst of the topic. That's very easy to say, Oh, brilliant,

518
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,240
they are real. It's real, you know, and you forget

519
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,200
about all the rest of the stuff to cover up

520
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,240
the lies the this seat, you know, you forget about

521
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,359
all of that. This could be a very very way,

522
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,759
a very good way for the governments of the world

523
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,400
to break disclosure without getting the hands dirty, so to speak.

524
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,759
So this is why I'm really watching this topic with

525
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440
curiosity going forward and what it means and how they're

526
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,519
going to release this information, because there's two ways it

527
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,279
could go. They could deny everything and say there isn't

528
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,440
an energy generator underneath and it's all rubbish that you know,

529
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,519
the lead scanner was wrong. Or it could be a

530
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,559
soft disclosure. You don't know, but it'd be interesting to

531
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:19,440
see how it develops.

532
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,839
Speaker 3: Basically, what you're describing is Project Bluebeam, but without the

533
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,880
threat of violence.

534
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,759
Speaker 4: Well, this is the thing we don't know, and anybody

535
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,160
I think with a finger on the post of this

536
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,279
topic it's up to date. I think there's just so

537
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,759
much confusion because we don't know what the hell's going on.

538
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:43,200
The project Bluebeam thing, you know, this potential pyramid situation.

539
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,039
There's a lot of weird things happen in moving parts

540
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:51,720
and you know, official documents and projects, and nobody seems

541
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,359
to have a clue what the hell is happening.

542
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: And this has been going on for you know, several

543
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:03,359
hundreds of years. I mean wefly mentioned Blavatsky, you know

544
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,880
theosophy that is late late eighteen hundreds, I believe for

545
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,680
early eighteen hundreds. You know Crowley with Lamb, you know,

546
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,519
the supposed entity that he made, he made contact with

547
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:23,920
who very much if you look at the drawings that

548
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,599
have been made based on the description given by Crowley,

549
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:33,000
very much looks like what we recognize as a gray alien.

550
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,880
You know. So it's been it's been going on for

551
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,279
for so incredibly long. And you know, you at the beginning,

552
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,240
like you mentioned the forties. You know, let's talk about

553
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,920
the forties, the nineteen forties, and you know the guy

554
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,839
with the funny mustache.

555
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody knows that guy.

556
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:58,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he and his cabinet and most of all,

557
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:04,559
even his his second in command, was obsessed with the occult.

558
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:12,119
Was obsessed with, you know, like the theories of Atlantis,

559
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:17,480
of Limuria, of you know, civilizations you know gone by,

560
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,719
even created a yeah, I want to say, like kind

561
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,320
of secret society in the annan Erba, who were you know,

562
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,639
all about the thrill about the life force. You know,

563
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,199
those women there weren't allowed to to cut their hair

564
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,679
for example, because you know your hair. They are like

565
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,679
the antennas through which you you connect with the divine

566
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,679
or you get you know, you connect divine messages, which

567
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840
you know has its roots in so many other beliefs

568
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,840
as well. I believe the Native Americans believe that it

569
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,000
is in the you know, the biblical story of Samsung,

570
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,519
who you know, got his hair cut and lost all

571
00:34:59,519 --> 00:34:59,960
of his power.

572
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that again this is just

573
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,159
about the whole journey we're on here, is about connecting dots,

574
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,760
as I mentioned earlier, and just listening to something you

575
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,840
said there, it provides another dot to connect and the

576
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,440
reason for that is something else, and I.

577
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: Would keep referring to it. I probably should move away.

578
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: But it goes back to the Lasertophiles and that there

579
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:23,119
was something in there that was said that some of

580
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:26,320
thing similar that you just said, and it connects the dots.

581
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,079
I'm just trying to think what it was now, just

582
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,320
what was we saying then? I'm sorry, I just added

583
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,880
that it may add this the pathway go back over that,

584
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:42,000
so we went back Atlantis Atlantis? So what what was

585
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,760
said in the Lessertophiles? And this was something that really

586
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,079
it really made my ears prick up? And the laserta

587
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,760
so this is the reptilia, this earthling, previous earth species

588
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,320
that's been around longer than us on the planet said

589
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,639
that we know a fraction more today than we did

590
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:08,119
five hundred years ago about physics, and you know, the

591
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,079
universe as.

592
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,639
Speaker 2: It we know a fraction more.

593
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: So when you think about the exponential leaps that we've

594
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,039
taken as a human race in the last five hundred years,

595
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:23,639
with the Industrial revolution, medicine, wars, technology just increasing, evolving

596
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:28,480
the way that it has, it's mind blowing to say

597
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,360
that five hundred years ago and now we know barely

598
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,519
any different considering how much we've learned in the last

599
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:36,199
five hundred years is mind blowing.

600
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: And I believe that, I do believe that.

601
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 4: I think there's laws of physics out there that we

602
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,880
just don't understand and then what happens here on our

603
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,400
planet is unique essentially to us, based on our universe

604
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,639
and the elements around us. I think things are different

605
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,280
out there. There are planets that rain diamonds, for instance,

606
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,800
and the physics, you know, there's rain that goes up.

607
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,039
There's different laws of physics in different places. What we

608
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,719
know about our world is what we know about our world.

609
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:05,159
But we're saying about civilizations that have died out throughout

610
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,920
the millennia, and you can see evidence of it, you know,

611
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,559
the Atlanteans and you know things people think that's crazy.

612
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: It's not, it's really not. You know, you go around.

613
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,320
You look at the place in Turkey.

614
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: I can't remember the name of it now, but you

615
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,639
know they found the city buried underground. They suggest there

616
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,519
is a city underneath the sphinx. Yeah, you know there's

617
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,280
pyramids under the sea or how did they get there?

618
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: You know, living closer to home between our countries, between

619
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,079
the Netherlands and the UK, there was dogger Land.

620
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: The dogger Land exactly, not Cea, you p ifod went underwater?

621
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,360
Who lived there? What is there? You know, how we

622
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,719
looked and when we say, oh, you know, in ninety

623
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,079
percent of the world's oceans are undiscovered. I can tell

624
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:49,880
you now. There's things down there from previous civilizations. There

625
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,920
are Antarctica is another thing. I can't remember the name

626
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,880
of it, but there's a map, isn't it. It was

627
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,360
pre Christopher Columbus and Antarctica was a land mass.

628
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean is ever found like way way deep

629
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,679
into the into the eyes, like kilometers deep into the

630
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,239
eyes of vegetation.

631
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: These things covered up on Google World and Google Earth.

632
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,199
You know why are they covering these things up. There's

633
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,639
a pyramid there in Antarctica that fought and you could

634
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,280
see it. Suddenly there was a blurry area over that

635
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,840
area on Google Maps. Why do you know why? And

636
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
there's a no fly zone and you can't just go there.

637
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,199
We couldn't just raise our own money and just go

638
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,639
to Antarctica and walk around willy nilly. There are government

639
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,199
rules in places or whoever you know it's responsible for

640
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,639
that area of the world. Who says, well, it's too dangerous,

641
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:41,159
you can't go there. Is that the case?

642
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,159
Speaker 2: Oh we're not getting told the full picture, like we.

643
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: Can we can go there. But there are indeed a

644
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,119
lot of you know, strict rules and.

645
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: Violations it's not because of the cold. Don't tell me

646
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,360
it's because of the cold.

647
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:55,679
Speaker 1: You know.

648
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: It's even lately there's this this whole thing about a

649
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,880
group of flat Earthers who went to the South Pole

650
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,480
to try and debunk the twenty four hour Sun that

651
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,679
that happens, I believe like during this time of year

652
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,760
or whenever that is in the on the Southern Equator.

653
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,920
They actually managed to find proof of the twenty four

654
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,079
hours son. They saw the twenty four hours Son with

655
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:38,079
their own eyes, debunking the whole flat Earth model. And

656
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:39,119
still there are.

657
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,159
Speaker 2: You know, it's incredible, right, you know this it's fake.

658
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: You know there there you know there there government shields

659
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:49,760
and whatever. No, it was literally some dude with his

660
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,800
own money took two of the more let's say, high

661
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,039
profile flat Earth content creators with him and said, hey,

662
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:05,159
let's go see for ourselves. So yeah, it is, it

663
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,079
is possible, but it's you know, it's very it's very

664
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:11,800
hard to to get there. But it's not. It's it

665
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,400
has been the notion, especially in the conspiracy realm, said oh,

666
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,599
you know, you can't go to Antarctica because I don't know,

667
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:22,199
like you'll be shut down or you know, like the

668
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,119
freaking the whole world government will come with their army

669
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,360
and try to stop. You know, you you can't go

670
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:34,559
to Antarctica, you know, it's just the There are research

671
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,800
stations there, there's a lot of sensitive equipment there, and yeah,

672
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,360
theories of more shadier things as well, you know. Going

673
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,440
back to you Funny Mustach, she's.

674
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,559
Speaker 2: Well he had they had a team, didn't they at

675
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,519
the Nazis.

676
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,039
Speaker 4: But while we're on the subject, let me tell you

677
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,599
something that I've heard obviously, stories and tales along this

678
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,559
rabbit hole journey van Tide, But one thing that is

679
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,280
tangible and you can't argue with this. You can have

680
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,719
theories about no fly zones and green zones within Antarctica,

681
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,599
of lush life and something that we may never know

682
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,039
without going there and physically seeing. But one thing that

683
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:19,840
is true, and this is tangible evidence. NASA did. They

684
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,880
carried out some experiments in Antarctica because there were some

685
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,360
strange things going on, and they did this thing called

686
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:34,000
Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna were basically the detected unusual neutrino behavior.

687
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,639
So we're talking at the atomic level neutrons, right, And

688
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,039
what they did is they discovered that particles moved backwards

689
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:46,039
in time at a certain area within the Antarctic moved

690
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:52,480
backwards in time, So they essentially manipulated time space, these particles,

691
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719
and there's something interesting about.

692
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:01,079
Speaker 3: That, now against the laws of physics exactly.

693
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: So let me read this to you. This is from NASA.

694
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:11,920
NASA's Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna experiment detected unusual nutrinal behavior,

695
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,880
which some scientists interpreted as particles moving backwards in time.

696
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:23,360
This phnomenaly led to speculations about parallel universes or alternative realities.

697
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,039
Experts caution obviously that there's no concrete evidence to support

698
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,719
these claims, which is something they've obviously got.

699
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: To say before there's any peer peer reviews.

700
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,159
Speaker 4: But the scientific community remains skeptical, emphasizing the need for

701
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,840
right rigorous analysis. Obviously, that goes without saying on any

702
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,159
of this stuff, because you know, we're talking about Earth,

703
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:48,559
you know, human history altering information that's coming to light.

704
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
You know, essentially we're saying that particles are moving backwards

705
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,039
in time. Does that mean that humans, under the right

706
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,599
circumstances in that area would also essentially become ageless?

707
00:42:58,599 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 5: Do you know?

708
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,519
Speaker 4: What I mean is more to be There's more to

709
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:04,360
be told on this topic. There's more to be told.

710
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,400
But what we do know is and this is fact.

711
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239
This isn't made fabricating it. NASA have done the experiment.

712
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,039
They've found that neutrino particles age backwards, they move backwards

713
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:15,440
in time.

714
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: You do with that information what you will. But if

715
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,639
you want to go down a rabbit hole, and.

716
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: Antarcticare the North Pole and portals around the world that

717
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:32,599
connect various places on Earth. Antarctica falls into that category exactly,

718
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,719
stargates Egypt being one of them. The Sphinx is a

719
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,400
very very famous one.

720
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:41,079
Speaker 3: I mean, it's also being said that, you know, there

721
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,320
was one of the reasons why the US invaders Afghanistan,

722
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,800
like Afghanistan or Iraq. I believe Iraq is that is

723
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,880
the or you know what we were what we're told

724
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:00,559
is the location of ancient Mesopotamia. So you know, from

725
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:05,440
the historical, religious, any kind of perspective, very very interesting area.

726
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,480
And I mean Saddam, you know, say whatever you want

727
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:14,639
about his cruelty, he wasn't stupid. You know, he had stuff,

728
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,199
you know, he had certain things.

729
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 4: Well, is that why the coalition forces went in under

730
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,599
the guise of UN nuclear inspectors. Everybody knew there was

731
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,119
no nuclear weapons in Iraq. I've been in the army

732
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:29,800
twenty years. I can tell you now there was no

733
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,039
nuclear weapons in Iraq. The UN went in to look

734
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:36,360
for that, and then suddenly we're at war. Why really

735
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,079
talking about Iraqi here? You know?

736
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,559
Speaker 3: It apparently also had to do with nine to eleven,

737
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:48,559
which I believe no Iraqi or just a few Iraqi

738
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:52,719
citizens were a part of, and even if they were,

739
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,760
they were backed by Sadi money.

740
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:01,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the Iranian Iran is essentially the fuel for

741
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,559
most of these terror groups. Al Kay had a bit

742
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,760
one of him which took responsibility for nine to eleven,

743
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,840
but that was Afghanistan predominantly, which is why we went

744
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,519
into Afghanistan. Apparently we're willing to Iraq to take nuclear

745
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:14,159
weapons away.

746
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,199
Speaker 3: Yeah w M d S. Which later was a minute like,

747
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,960
oh you know there are none?

748
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, But why we're still here five years later.

749
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: Because of the hell yeah, that's my cat.

750
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:28,559
Speaker 2: I wondered what that was.

751
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: No, that's my cat. Like every time I every time

752
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,480
I record, whether it's solo or you know, on my

753
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:38,679
show or you.

754
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: Know appeckable timing across the pond.

755
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,199
Speaker 3: He always has to to make himself known. On on

756
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,800
my own show, he's lovingly dubbed my kiddy co host.

757
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: I was going to say, we've got a fourth co host,

758
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,360
a fairy little co host.

759
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess it is still the three of

760
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,280
us at the moment, just not the one we thought

761
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,559
it was going to be. Uh yeah, no, but it's

762
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:09,559
the The answer to that is civil unrest. Well, yeah, obviously,

763
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:16,280
you know, you're basically invaded by a foreign country. They

764
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,039
tear your ship up, and then they're you know, then

765
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:23,239
they're telling you like, oh, we're gonna stay a little

766
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,519
longer because you know, you guys seem to be really

767
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,360
really angry, so like you you're gonna need to calm

768
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,840
down first, Okay, that's gonna help. It's like you mean,

769
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,480
like you slapping me in the face and telling me like, hey,

770
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:41,519
oh oh, don't get angry now, you know. And I'm

771
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:43,719
gonna stay here right in front of you until you're

772
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,599
not angry anymore. I'm gonna like stop being angry if

773
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,079
you you know, pack your shit and leave. But you know,

774
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,760
and there's another another very popular theory, one that I

775
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,519
you know, always like to say because we know there

776
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:01,960
were in Iraq afghanistand like that that area just so

777
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:07,719
many poppy fields, oh yeah, and plenty of crude oil

778
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:12,480
of course in that area too, so a lot of gold.

779
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:17,400
There are plenty of pictures with I believe mostly US

780
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,840
soldiers with just sitting on heaps and heaps of gold.

781
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:24,159
I always made that they were fighting for God, standing

782
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:25,840
for gold, oil, drugs.

783
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: I can pretty much guarantee you thatn't.

784
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting really because you know with the gold situation,

785
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,760
is that from a lot of stories and theories and

786
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,960
things that you move through, precious metals is a.

787
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Huge resource for ets, gold.

788
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,599
Speaker 4: Being one of them, i e. The precious metal. Apparently

789
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,840
it's just sparse throughout the universe. You know, there's not

790
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,880
a lot of gold from what we've seen. So gold,

791
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,000
obviously it's a very rare commodity within the universe. There

792
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,719
are ways of picking it up and seeing it in

793
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,960
the way that it reacts on the so we can

794
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,920
see within the universe itself where the gold is or

795
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,079
where some gold is. Obviously it's huge, but it's not

796
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,400
a it's not a common element, which it does back

797
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,679
up the fact that again under the certain files, I'm

798
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:18,079
coming back to it again is the genetic manipulation of

799
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,559
our genes in order to mine that stuff. It's not

800
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,559
within the realms of you know, not being real, not

801
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,000
a reality. And the way that we cover gold on

802
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,679
this planet, it's like inherent you know, children they don't

803
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,199
know the value of something, but they're attracted to gold,

804
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,119
you know where all attracted to gold is an element

805
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,639
as a precious metal? Why why has it been installed

806
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:46,920
into ards? Same with diamonds, you know, precious metals. There's

807
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,480
something that we're just attracted to. But why money thing?

808
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: Diamonds aren't rare.

809
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 4: Diamonds are well, yeah, common commonplace.

810
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: The South African the Beer family who you know, broad

811
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880
on the notion that they are so you know, incredibly

812
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,199
rare and so incredibly you know, valuable because of it

813
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,880
and make themselves very rich and gold Like I I

814
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,800
there is a a book series that I have have

815
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,719
read as a kid kind of you know, also kind

816
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:27,440
of having to do with alternate universes. So yeah, I

817
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,719
was I was doomed from you know, kid on because

818
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,760
I was already reading those books. But they they make

819
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,280
a good point like in the let's say alternate universe

820
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:45,119
of those those book series, the Stravaganza series, very good books.

821
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:52,039
Gold is worthless because once gold, you know, becomes dirty,

822
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:58,119
starts to spot, it's you know, you can't work it anymore. Silver,

823
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,519
on the other hand, you can always polish. Whenever silver

824
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,719
it gets you know, a little dirty, a little you know,

825
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,119
it's kind of losing. It's it's glimmer, it's shimmer. You

826
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,719
can polish it and it's you know, like new again.

827
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,199
But still, you know, gold is what we're going for,

828
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:21,280
and maybe there is there's an astrological link to be made.

829
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,000
You know, gold reminding us of the sun, and the

830
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:29,199
sun is what gives us, gives us life, it gives

831
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,440
us warmth, It makes make sure that, you know, our

832
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,280
crops grow. It's it makes sure that we have plenty

833
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,480
of vitamin D, although you know, a brit and a

834
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:44,800
Dutchman fit min D. We have to supplement it.

835
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, one of the things about gold

836
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,840
that's I mean, you mentioned that it gets dirty and stuff,

837
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,559
but it's also and this is something that I suppose

838
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:59,119
needs recognition. It's a it's a conductor and as far

839
00:50:59,159 --> 00:50:59,920
as it conductor, is.

840
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: A and said it's it's very very efficient.

841
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,639
Speaker 4: It's not super conduct super conducted that copper, but it's

842
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,639
an incredibly good conductor.

843
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,119
Speaker 3: It is definitely one of the best. It is in

844
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:18,400
like most of your your computers, exactly most of your electronics,

845
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,800
you'll find some you know, some scrap of gold. I mean,

846
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,159
I'm talking milligrams, but you know, still because it is

847
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,639
such a a good conductor indeed.

848
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: Which is again it does that lend some kind of

849
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,719
credibility to why it's around so much of these vast

850
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,280
spaces that are linked with you know, that's that that

851
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,320
side of that are ethos on ets and aliens and

852
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:56,199
other dimensions and these hot spots, these portals there seems

853
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,000
to be gold and you know things what's the word

854
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:05,800
I'm looking for where they leave like it's not like

855
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,000
a like a not like a gift, but it's like

856
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:12,360
a homage in homage to whoever these the sky people,

857
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,159
whoever are responsible for sure this technology.

858
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: His offerings offerings to the gods, as.

859
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,039
Speaker 3: It were, the gods are, I mean, they're they're different

860
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,880
in in my opinion, I don't like the notion that no,

861
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:33,039
that's just maybe been word no, But I get it,

862
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,079
you know, offerings. Yeah, and a lot of a lot

863
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:39,280
of statues of just these these weird beings but all

864
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,360
you know, holding some sort of a hand bag or

865
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:48,360
carry on a thing. You know, a lot of engravings

866
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,880
in South America, you know, in the Mayan temples, of

867
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:58,239
people who look like they're you know, sitting in some

868
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:05,159
sort of a vehicle pointed upwards, you know, maybe suggesting

869
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:11,400
that they are going there and you know, don't come

870
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,519
with you, Like, oh no, you know, that's just it

871
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,199
was easier that way, No, because they're like there's a

872
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:19,559
lot of things that's like going sideways as well. It's

873
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,920
very intentionally done like that. It's another thing that I

874
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,199
very much just like, oh, you know, they just they

875
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:28,280
didn't know what they were doing.

876
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: They did, Yes, they did, Yes, they did.

877
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: Yes, they absolutely fucking did. You know, even those like

878
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,440
so many thousands of years ago, they knew what they

879
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,840
were doing, those cave drawings, cave paintings, they knew what

880
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,000
they were painting. They were painting things that they saw.

881
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:48,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is brings up an interesting point. And

882
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,679
if somebody is sitting there and thinking skeptically about it all,

883
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,880
let me ask you this and let me put this

884
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,199
to you. Why on every continent across our globe, and

885
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,559
this is including places like Doggerland as well and underwater,

886
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,159
you know, places we've lost over the years of the millennia.

887
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,559
Why across the globe are their civilizations that have never, ever,

888
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,800
never would have come into contact with each other. Why

889
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,800
do they all depict the same things on the walls

890
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:19,480
of their buildings, of their temples. Why are they all

891
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:24,039
building pyramids? Why are they you know, essentially tipping the

892
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:27,440
pyramids with precious metals and various other things. And you know,

893
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,960
why are people coming down from chariots of fire from

894
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,239
the sky in depictions within their paintings. And this is

895
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,400
going all the way back to you know, Aboriginal caves.

896
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,920
This is pre pyramids. You know, we're talking to hunter

897
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,000
gatherers here. They all paint the same things. Why these people?

898
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:48,960
If I don't know you, you know you live in

899
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,440
you live in the Netherlands.

900
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,079
Speaker 2: I live in England.

901
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: If you paint a picture and I paint the same picture,

902
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:56,320
and you show me that picture, I show you that picture.

903
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,440
We never spoke to each other before. Surely that's gonna

904
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,760
raise questions. I don't understand why people are asking these questions,

905
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,199
who's answering them?

906
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,119
Speaker 3: That would mean that we have you know, clearly seen

907
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,559
the same thing exactly, clearly seen or experience exactly.

908
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: And that's the point.

909
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:19,519
Speaker 4: You cannot coungure something up from your imagination that is

910
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:23,079
exactly the same as what somebody else has done thousands

911
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:25,800
of miles away, when you'd never come into existence with them,

912
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,159
you'd never come into contact.

913
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,159
Speaker 2: How it can't happen.

914
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: Like in our modern age. Sure, you know, two people

915
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,159
can have the same ideas, you know, that's why we

916
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:38,760
like now have things like trademark and copyright and all

917
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,039
of that, you know, for original ideas, for as far

918
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,480
as those are left. But yeah, like we are talking

919
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,480
thousands of years ago, people didn't just you know, catch

920
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,400
a plane and a couple hours later you're in an

921
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:56,679
entirely different continent. Even if they could travel, it was

922
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,000
by boat or land bridge and would take them weeks

923
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,519
months perhaps, you know. Yeah, just because like Doggerlands was

924
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,000
a thing and you know formed a land bridge between

925
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,239
you know, the UK and the Netherlands. Yeah, people most

926
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:19,920
certainly have crossed over, and yeah, stories would have been told,

927
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,920
but you know it's still it's quite a trip, you know.

928
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but this is just a European lang bridge.

929
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:34,440
When you talk about Geezer too, you know, so something

930
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:38,719
like that, we're talking an expedition back then, if you

931
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,559
was to take that journey on I mean primitive boats, horses, Yeah,

932
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:47,280
we're talking but maybe years, you know, maybe years.

933
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 3: To get primitive boats is definitely an option. I mean,

934
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,480
there's there's evidence found that as far back as the

935
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,639
Neanderthals that they used boats, but I mean they were

936
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:05,199
based be very well elaborate haul out out trees.

937
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, one of the questions you've

938
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,639
got to ask yourself is worthy.

939
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: But it would take them head a long you know,

940
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:16,920
months probably even assuming they survived exactly the high.

941
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Seas exactly that.

942
00:57:18,199 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: And you know, we're not talking about a nip across

943
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:23,559
the Mediterranean here or the Channel, you know, like the

944
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
great empires of the world that we know, the Roman Empires,

945
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:31,719
the British Empires. Yeah, we're not talking about kilometers between

946
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,920
Spain and exactly. We're talking about the entirety of the

947
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,000
Atlantic Ocean. Now at the time, that'd have been unfathomable.

948
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:41,199
You know, we're talking vikings are the first people from

949
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:45,559
Europe to really locate North America and Newfoundland in Canada,

950
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,239
as we've already discussed anyway, but.

951
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: They were way ahead of the game.

952
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,719
Speaker 4: You go, yeah, further back than that to the Pyramid

953
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,519
Times in three thousand and four thousand years and plus

954
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,280
you know, they're way before the Vikings, and they were

955
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840
at the pinnacle of technology as far as boat travel

956
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,760
was concerned. And they just about did it, and nobody

957
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,360
else did it for hundreds of years after them.

958
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,559
Speaker 2: By the way, So how are you telling me that.

959
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:11,639
Speaker 4: People are building the same things in South America as

960
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:16,440
they are in Egypt? How with that lack of accessibility

961
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,320
to each other civilizations.

962
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: Often on the like the same line as well, Like if.

963
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:26,239
Speaker 2: You were to there's another thing exactly.

964
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: Like we know, you know, the lay lines. You know,

965
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,639
if you draw circles around the earth, you know those

966
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,159
are I mean with maps, the lines that we know,

967
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,440
but you know, the lay lines there basically are our

968
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,440
planets veins. There are our planets neural connections, and they

969
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:49,719
are most of the larger, most important. You know, buildings

970
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,400
and sites seem to have been built on places where

971
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:58,679
a lot of those those lines come together.

972
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:02,039
Speaker 4: So and let me tell you something whilst you're on

973
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,960
that point, and this is to do with the recent

974
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,880
discovery and the pyramids. By the way, this is a

975
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,599
Chinese discovery. So what you just said there, you talked

976
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:13,199
about the specific points on Earth where these pyramids are

977
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:16,639
built and erected. It's not an accident that they've been

978
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:19,280
put up there and positioned in the same way and

979
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,880
pointing at the same things. Now, what the Chinese discovered,

980
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,199
and this is groundbreaking, This is very recently, at the

981
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,480
same time as the underground structures. So they used their

982
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:33,400
advanced lad radar system, which is what we've seen, you know,

983
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:39,400
detecting the structures underground. And what they've found is, and

984
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,960
this is from a distance of five thousand miles away.

985
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: By the way, there's plasma bubbles also.

986
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: Known as what they call equatorial plasma bubbles so epbs,

987
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,960
and the hot pockets of gas that form at low

988
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:57,519
latitudes and can interfere with GPS signals and satellite communications.

989
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,719
Now they found one of these bubbles over the pyramid

990
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,079
of Gezer. Why is that a plasma bubble? Yeah, and

991
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:08,119
you can I mean you can put it up on

992
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:10,440
the screen and you can just find it but you

993
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,920
can see the scan, the lead scan from Chinese authorities,

994
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,679
and they show you and there's a there's a heat map,

995
01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:21,400
and there's a plasma. There's plasma bubbles above the pyramids

996
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,519
in Gizer. Now when you talked about what you said before,

997
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:29,360
the geographical positioning of these things, is that a coincidence

998
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:33,280
or did somebody know something? Is there a science here

999
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,000
that we don't know about today that is lost?

1000
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: You know?

1001
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,079
Speaker 3: But the thing is with the pyramids, you know, like

1002
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:44,800
what to us are the you know, ancient Egyptians. The

1003
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:51,480
pyramids were already ancient to them, Like the ancient Egyptians

1004
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,719
already you know, had forgotten or had no idea who

1005
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,800
built the pyramids. So it's it's you know, fun fact

1006
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,760
that I often like to mention, just you know, to

1007
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,280
you get an idea of the timelines. Cleopatra, you know,

1008
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,760
the Cleopatra that we know from pop culture was married

1009
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,840
to the Roman general. I mean, there have been multiple Cleopatras,

1010
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,800
but you know, take her in the grand scheme of things,

1011
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,920
in the Grand scheme of time timelines, she lived closer

1012
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:33,920
to the development of the iPhone than the building of

1013
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,920
the Great Pyramids.

1014
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,679
Speaker 2: It's incredible when you say like that.

1015
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, when you're thinking of it.

1016
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,320
I mean I said that to my parents a while ago,

1017
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,079
and my dad was like, no way, you know, and

1018
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:48,559
he started looking it up and he was like, oh shit, yeah.

1019
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:52,440
And you know, by a few hundred years even not

1020
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,360
just a few decades, but like a few hundred years,

1021
01:01:56,559 --> 01:02:00,760
you know, multiple generations have have gone back already, and

1022
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,519
they you know, forgot who built the pyramids and what

1023
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:06,400
for and what they what did they look like? The

1024
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:12,480
ancient Egyptians had archaeologists to, you know, do research into

1025
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:14,000
ancient Egypt's.

1026
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you say it like that, closer to the

1027
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,000
iPhone than the building of the Pyramids puts it into

1028
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:22,400
perspective quite well, doesn't it.

1029
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1030
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: So I've just been looking into this.

1031
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: Basically, I asked, thank God for ai As at all,

1032
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,159
why was the plasma above the pyramids. It's interesting because

1033
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,000
the answer is that it's given me. There's far really

1034
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,920
for this. I mean the speculative ideas as well, obviously,

1035
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,679
but there's there's four main theories that this thing's thrown

1036
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:45,760
at me. And this is stuff that they wouldn't have

1037
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,239
known then, and they wouldn't have had any information on.

1038
01:02:48,519 --> 01:02:53,320
So the first one is geographical geological anomalies. So this is,

1039
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:55,599
you know, an explanation for the plasma. This is what

1040
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:59,639
the first one, the pyramids unique geological location situated near

1041
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:02,800
the night rivet and on a plateau might contribute to

1042
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,239
the formulation of plasma bubbles. The underlying geology could be

1043
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:14,280
generating unusual electromagnetic or telleric currents influencing the ionsphere above. Again,

1044
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,599
that's something that they wouldn't know in the building. They

1045
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:19,920
wouldn't have any idea of that, surely, unless there are

1046
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,880
techniques that have been lost that we don't know about.

1047
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: Going by the notion that you know, ancient people were primitive,

1048
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,360
I mean.

1049
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,079
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1050
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: No, definitely not.

1051
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,639
Speaker 2: I don't think they've been primitive for a long long time.

1052
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,719
That's what I mean. I mean, it's.

1053
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,719
Speaker 3: Because even that first answer, like so many things have

1054
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,320
to come together in just the right maths, just the

1055
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,599
right time, in just the right way for for that

1056
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:47,559
to to form. I mean, I suck at math, but

1057
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:50,199
I can you know it's.

1058
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing is what we need really is

1059
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,000
the opinion of somebody who's a top rank engineer a

1060
01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:00,440
top ranked mathematician just to say, is you know the

1061
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,599
possibility of this, let's talk turkey for a second. How

1062
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:06,360
realistic is this? Do you know what I mean to

1063
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,719
do this? I mean to get those exact figures. You know,

1064
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,320
there's ancient construction techniques, is the second theory. But again,

1065
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,159
why would you know unless we've lost that theory that

1066
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:22,920
there's the theologies on it. So some research suggests that

1067
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,840
the pyramids ancient construction techniques involving precise stone placement and alignment,

1068
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:33,679
might be creating a unique energetic signature and this signature

1069
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,599
could be interacting with the Earth's electromagnetic field, producing plasma bules.

1070
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:42,360
That's the second theory. That's wild as well, that's lazy.

1071
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: But then still, you know they had to know how

1072
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,199
to place it in you know, that specific forum, like

1073
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,480
down to the millimeter that's my point, and on that

1074
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:56,960
specific place. And then you know, they like very first

1075
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,440
of all, had to know where those lay lines are,

1076
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:03,719
where those you know, those hot spots are.

1077
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: But I'm not intelligent enough to understand this now, you know,

1078
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,519
and we're talking about back in the day where people

1079
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,960
you know, it wasn't there wasn't no curriculum. Not everybody

1080
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:16,199
went to school. It wasn't then done the thing at

1081
01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:17,920
the time, So how.

1082
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: Did they know this? People couldn't even read or write,

1083
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,519
you know, that was that was saved for the the

1084
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,639
very upper echelons. And you know even you know, even

1085
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:35,920
more the the priest class. Like it was pretty much

1086
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:40,639
saved for the priest class to you know, learn to

1087
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,840
to read and write. So you know, they were also

1088
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,599
the the administrators of.

1089
01:05:46,679 --> 01:05:51,159
Speaker 4: Moon times, well monks to COVID that Catholicism in Christianity

1090
01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:53,159
as well as the monks took onme that mantle.

1091
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,559
Speaker 2: They were the educated.

1092
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,239
Speaker 3: Still, you know, kind of the kind of the priest class,

1093
01:05:58,239 --> 01:05:59,719
if you will, just you know, taking it into a

1094
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,519
broad their spectrum. Yeah, you know, they were tasked with,

1095
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,559
you know, writing the Bible and so I mean, first

1096
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:10,199
of all, you have to know how to how to read,

1097
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,079
to you know, interpret the texts and then translate them

1098
01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:17,519
in other languages. And then also you know, have to

1099
01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:19,920
know how to write, because you're gonna have to write

1100
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,880
it down, especially you know, way before the print printing press,

1101
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:26,559
everything was done by hand. But still those were the

1102
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,719
monks tho was, those were the religious people that was

1103
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,880
the priest class a very you know, a very small

1104
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,079
class of people, you know, one percent maybe knew how

1105
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:45,320
to to read and write. Your average average citizen, your

1106
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,280
average farmer who worked on the land from son up

1107
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,519
to sundown, Why would he have to know how to

1108
01:06:52,719 --> 01:06:54,760
read and write? Like he just I mean, yeah, he

1109
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,440
can read. He can read nature, he can read the

1110
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,079
signs in the air. He can you know, see well,

1111
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:05,440
basic pattern recognition. Really, that's all he needs for his job.

1112
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,440
He's a farmer. Why would he, you know, have to

1113
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:10,280
learn or have to know how to.

1114
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,079
Speaker 2: Relate exactly, you know.

1115
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,679
Speaker 4: And the point that you've just made it is again

1116
01:07:14,719 --> 01:07:19,000
it lends more deep thought to the to the topic

1117
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:20,320
of if.

1118
01:07:20,199 --> 01:07:22,719
Speaker 2: There was something you know, very advanced happening.

1119
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,639
Speaker 4: But whatever, whatever the techniques were that they were using

1120
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:31,239
to ship ship, shift and move and maneuver these giant

1121
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,119
stones into positions, howe who had the information on how

1122
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:35,639
to do it?

1123
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: How did they teach.

1124
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: The you know, the populace of people who were building

1125
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,679
these things how to do it as well if they

1126
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:44,920
couldn't read and write, and where did that information go?

1127
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: That's the question.

1128
01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 4: Those are the questions that need answering because we don't

1129
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,599
know how they did it.

1130
01:07:49,639 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 3: Now, where did that information come from? How did they

1131
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:53,400
know exactly?

1132
01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 4: And you know, it all lends to the idea that

1133
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,639
there is something has happened that is not happen and

1134
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,039
has not happened now is not happening now?

1135
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: Are we are kept in the dark? I don't know.

1136
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:06,079
I don't know.

1137
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:08,199
Speaker 4: And this is the point of the whole point of

1138
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:10,920
this podcast is that the more people that talk about

1139
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,719
these things and dig into it and unearthed things and

1140
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,920
should bounce off ideas off each other, the more we

1141
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,079
understand the situation, the more dots we can connect, and

1142
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:23,479
the more we put this out there publicly, the more

1143
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,439
pressure that puts potentially on people that do know that

1144
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,199
are concealed in this information, and the louder the voice,

1145
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,479
you know, the only it's only going to do good.

1146
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,119
As in, let's get this information out there. Let's see

1147
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:38,399
who's holding the secrets.

1148
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: I want to know.

1149
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,239
Speaker 4: This isn't it, this is This is the problem I've

1150
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:44,439
got with all of this, and this is ET's past,

1151
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,720
present future, is that this is not for the men

1152
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:53,000
in suits. This is for humankind. Everybody deserves this information.

1153
01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:56,680
They cannot dictate to us what we can or do

1154
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,680
and do not know, or will or won't want to understand.

1155
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,439
That is for us as individuals to interpret. And if

1156
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,560
you take the suit off the president in the United

1157
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,960
States body, and you take the clothes off my back,

1158
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:13,199
we're still men. We're exactly the same. So what makes

1159
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:18,600
him better than me? As far as custodian information, you.

1160
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,319
Speaker 3: Know, he's still you know, gets out of bad one

1161
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:22,000
leg at a time.

1162
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,399
Speaker 2: We all deserve to know. This is information for us.

1163
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,199
Speaker 3: Promllennia, you imagine getting as smooch from Donald Trump, no thanks.

1164
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: Or many the other way around.

1165
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I mean luckily he's rich.

1166
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,079
Speaker 2: Probably not living a bad life, is he really?

1167
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 3: No? And I mean neither is she. You know, if

1168
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,880
your husband's Donald Trumps, well he is filthy, fucking rich

1169
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,319
and now he's the president of the United States. So

1170
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,880
you know there's a good reason for her to stay

1171
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,079
with him. And you know he's got good good.

1172
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,399
Speaker 2: He's doing well.

1173
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 4: But you know, the point is is that this is

1174
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,720
information for the world. It's not for certain group of

1175
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,079
demographic of people in suits, isn't. So the look, the

1176
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:06,560
quicker this disclosure thing could come around, I think the

1177
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,960
better there's two ways it can go. I think the

1178
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,880
disclosure it's either going to be an incredible thing and

1179
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,199
the whole trajectory of human the journey that we're on

1180
01:10:17,239 --> 01:10:21,800
as the species changes for the better, and potentially it

1181
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,359
could you know, turn the page on a big way.

1182
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,199
This isn't a small progression. We could go essentially from

1183
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:31,880
where we are now to interstellar beings really within a

1184
01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:33,199
very short period.

1185
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,359
Speaker 3: Of time, being on the Kardashchef scale.

1186
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 4: Or it goes horribly wrong and we end up gone,

1187
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,920
you know, extinct essentially through some kind of nuclear war

1188
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:50,319
or some cataclysmic event that we've caused. That's say, the

1189
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:53,920
two ways it goes. And it's quite scary when you

1190
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,800
think about it, and I try not to too much.

1191
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:58,119
I just hope that he goes the right way and

1192
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,520
the people who got the lot the most to lose,

1193
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,640
the greed, the elite class that have been concealing this

1194
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,640
and you know, using monopolizing it. Essentially, they're going to

1195
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,000
go down swinging whatever that. Whatever way that is is

1196
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:16,119
not going to be pretty, but it's got to happen.

1197
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:18,359
That's the only way it happens. Somebody's got to be

1198
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,119
held to account. For keeping this information from us. And

1199
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,880
when it does come out, I think, I say, they'll

1200
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,439
go down swinging in a big way.

1201
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, there is this this quote which has

1202
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:35,239
been attributed to a couple of people. It is, you know,

1203
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:44,119
very much paraphrasing, but you know it still stands as

1204
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:49,359
I just I do not know with what weapons world

1205
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:53,199
War III will be fought, but world War four will

1206
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:55,239
be fought with sticks and stones.

1207
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,119
Speaker 2: Makes sense? And you're right if.

1208
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: We're going down the the horrible way, if you will,

1209
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,039
that will be our reality. That will, you know, be

1210
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:08,720
the research back to back through the Stone Age.

1211
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, really just touching on it.

1212
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: I mean again, I think we've been we've been going

1213
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,079
on for a while, and I think maybe there is

1214
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:18,439
another podcast in this talking about modern times because we

1215
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,279
have we've done exactly the opposite of what we said

1216
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:22,479
we were going to do. We started right back at

1217
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,960
the very beginning and we sort of patrolled through from there.

1218
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:27,560
So maybe next time we can talk about the modern stuff.

1219
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,079
Speaker 3: But there is so much to talk about. There are

1220
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:33,199
so many rabbit holes that you can connect to it,

1221
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:36,960
you know, free energy or the there are whole things

1222
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,399
we can we can say about that.

1223
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: But it all deserves to be spoken.

1224
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 3: To philosophical societies and their idea of aliens or interdimensionals.

1225
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,600
You know. That's that's you know, there are multiple.

1226
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:54,359
Speaker 4: Podcasts absolutely and the point to just that, and I

1227
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:56,439
would say that to the viewers as well. By the way,

1228
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,760
is if you've come on here and you might you

1229
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,199
know this has a potentially floated your boat. Let me

1230
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:03,840
tell you now that there is this topic is so

1231
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,680
big and takes so much unpacking and as you've just

1232
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:12,399
said there quite rightly there you could spend an entire

1233
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,079
day on just free energy, you know, on just certain

1234
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:18,279
things within this to unpack it all.

1235
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: This is going to take time, it is, and it

1236
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,520
might be slap dash, and there's a reason for that.

1237
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,640
This isn't structured.

1238
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:27,279
Speaker 4: What you're what we're saying, or the information that we're

1239
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:31,079
giving you isn't findable. It's not in archives. It's it's

1240
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:33,560
not in a way that's structured in which that we

1241
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720
can regurgitate that information to you.

1242
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,279
Speaker 3: It isn't.

1243
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 4: So we are having to unpack this thing ourselves and

1244
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,359
try and give you that information systematically. That doesn't blow

1245
01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:47,800
your mind, if that makes sense. And I think we're

1246
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,079
trying and there's a lot of people in the world

1247
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:53,079
trying to do it. There's a lot of song sheets

1248
01:13:53,079 --> 01:13:55,119
that people seem to be singing off that are different

1249
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:58,760
from one another. But again, it's all about connecting the dots.

1250
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,159
And what I would say to anybody listening and watching

1251
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:04,439
this is, you know, don't judge one podcast or don't

1252
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,760
judge one person's information. Take the information, put it away somewhere,

1253
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:11,840
and then find some more information and connect the dots,

1254
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:15,039
find the bits that are relevant and start piecing together

1255
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:17,560
the big puzzle. You know, you can see it yourself,

1256
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,960
and it doesn't take long for it to start emerging,

1257
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,039
this picture. And the more you see it, the more

1258
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:24,640
you connect, you know. And that's what we're going to

1259
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,680
do on this podcast. We're going to unpack this thing

1260
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:32,840
systematically over time. You know, it'll be fun, enjoyable, I

1261
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:33,479
think put.

1262
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: In the years probably Like, there is so much that

1263
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:37,520
we can talk.

1264
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:40,159
Speaker 4: About, absolutely absolutely, and you know, we've got the option

1265
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:41,960
for guests as well. We can get the subject matter

1266
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:43,880
experts on this easy.

1267
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have a like on my own show,

1268
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,119
I have a whole freaking range of guests that I

1269
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:55,680
could you know, possibly contact even on this very topic.

1270
01:14:56,079 --> 01:15:00,880
Absolutely who to contact about this. It was a strange,

1271
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,720
strange show idea that I did with her. I still

1272
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,479
don't know what to what to think of it or

1273
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,239
what to make of it. But you know is right

1274
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:13,479
up up, you know, our alley of you know, at

1275
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,399
least this this episode. And you know, even if you

1276
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,319
take just one thing of what we just mentioned, you know,

1277
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:24,159
out of what like a hundreds of hundreds of things

1278
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:27,159
that we mentioned, you know, just take one thing of

1279
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,279
it go from there, you know, and we're we're not

1280
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,159
asking you to to believe us. You know, this is

1281
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:38,880
years and years and years of like our own experience

1282
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:44,359
of you know, finding different sources, you know, reading different

1283
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:47,640
books and articles and magazines, watching different movies, watching different

1284
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:51,960
people tell stories or you know, tell the same story

1285
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,479
but in very different ways with other details, or you know.

1286
01:15:56,279 --> 01:15:59,760
There there's a quote that I like to use, especially

1287
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,720
on you know, on my own show and shows that

1288
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,079
are more spiritual pagan the lines. The only thing I

1289
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:11,000
know is that I know nothing, and I believe that

1290
01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:15,640
is I believe that's Socrates. Socrates are played though one

1291
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,479
of those and it's true. I don't know, I don't

1292
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,680
know anything, you know, I know, I mean if it's

1293
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,399
if it's one percent of one percent, then that is

1294
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,359
already a.

1295
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: Hell of a yeah.

1296
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 3: And I'm thirty three years old. I'm learning every damn

1297
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,359
day and I'm unlearning every day.

1298
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's the key times.

1299
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so many times, the ideas that I had,

1300
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:42,399
notions that I had about things, I'll talk to someone

1301
01:16:42,399 --> 01:16:44,199
else who has a you know, a different point of

1302
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:45,439
view on those things, and I'm like.

1303
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh, sometimes that's quite saddening though, Right.

1304
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:53,239
Speaker 4: I've found a few of my thoughts on certain topics

1305
01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:55,039
that have been thrown clear out of the window, and

1306
01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:59,079
I found it quite upsetting because I thought it's so great,

1307
01:16:59,079 --> 01:17:01,560
you know, it sounds sounds like I'm onto something, and

1308
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,279
then you you hear something, we'll shoot that out of

1309
01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:06,920
this guy, and it can be upsetting. But you know,

1310
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,359
one thing I will say is on a reassurance level

1311
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:12,159
for the people are watching on is that don't you

1312
01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:15,600
know it's okay to find this stuff unbelievable. It's fine

1313
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:21,359
to think that's unbelievable because it is unbelievable. And that's

1314
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:23,479
all right. So if you are watching you think, oh

1315
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,399
my god, this is it can't be that.

1316
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,079
Speaker 2: We've all been there. We've all been there. It's crazy.

1317
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 4: It's crazy just to say some of the things out aloud,

1318
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,359
what we talk about, it's nuts. You know, you're the

1319
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:37,439
throne is in a padded room a few years ago

1320
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:37,840
for that.

1321
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more.

1322
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,319
Speaker 4: There's so much evidence, and I don't think people understand

1323
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:47,119
that this isn't just just nonsense. We're just spouting into

1324
01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:50,319
the ether. There is so much evidence for this stuff.

1325
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,479
But just have to knowwhere to look and you know

1326
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,279
what it says, and interpret the information the way that

1327
01:17:56,319 --> 01:17:57,479
it needs to be interpreted.

1328
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: But this is a very good at our start.

1329
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 4: I'll end my piece by starting by ending it the

1330
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,079
way that I began is that this is very real.

1331
01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: This is very very real.

1332
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 4: This topic, this subject, and it needs speaking about and

1333
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,760
it needs people to be open minded. We've lost something

1334
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:15,720
over the decades as a race, as a species, We've

1335
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,800
become so skeptical about everything. And you know, a lot

1336
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,319
of that's down to the establishment, the lies that have

1337
01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:25,520
been told, the deceit that we've all had to live through.

1338
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 2: You just don't know who to believe anymore.

1339
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 4: But the one thing that you can believe in is

1340
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:35,000
people elected officials and government officials and unelected officials. You

1341
01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:38,399
don't know, with agendas and narratives, you don't know. But

1342
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,560
what you can believe in is people. There are people

1343
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,920
on earth, good people who just genuinely want to share information.

1344
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:47,880
I just want to know what's going on. And you

1345
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,079
can believe in us. You can believe in each other,

1346
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:54,119
you know, just listen and learn, and that first for knowledge,

1347
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,199
I think it's a human thing, you know. I'm very

1348
01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,159
thirsty for knowledge recently. I don't know whether it's just

1349
01:18:59,159 --> 01:19:01,600
because I'm getting old and pushing on into my thirties

1350
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,720
now at the back end of the thirties, by the way,

1351
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,279
but my thirst for knowledge in recent years has just

1352
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:08,800
grown exponentially.

1353
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 2: I have to learn.

1354
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,199
Speaker 4: I have to know things and that stuff that I've

1355
01:19:12,199 --> 01:19:14,239
never done before in my life, really, so I just

1356
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,640
plowed through it, you know, them, the best I can.

1357
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,000
But recently I have to learn. I just have to

1358
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:23,800
know things, you know. I could never stop learning now,

1359
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,000
and it's a great thing. It's liberated me almost.

1360
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,520
Speaker 3: And the scary thing is the more you find out

1361
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,159
you know certain things, the more you find out how

1362
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:35,079
much you.

1363
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:39,039
Speaker 2: Don't know, and you're right, I think you.

1364
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: Know something, and then you you know, you kind of

1365
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,199
go on about it, you go a little bit, a

1366
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:46,279
little bit deeper into it, and you're like, I don't

1367
01:19:46,359 --> 01:19:50,439
know anything about this. I thought I knew, but you know,

1368
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,479
my whole world is shattered.

1369
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 4: But while that can be a scary thing for me,

1370
01:19:57,039 --> 01:19:59,239
I've been through the fear you know, I've been through

1371
01:19:59,239 --> 01:20:04,920
that fear of the situation. We are insignificant essentially, you know,

1372
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,720
it's beings, and that is quite scary. But in the

1373
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,800
same breath, it was so special and were so unique,

1374
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:16,520
and we're far from fragile, but you know, in another

1375
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,159
sense of the word, we're incredibly flagile. But we're an

1376
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:21,520
incredible species.

1377
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 3: And we are very complicated, oh.

1378
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1379
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,159
Speaker 4: And if somebody has design or there is some kind

1380
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:31,880
of design at play, and as we mentioned earlier, genetic manipulation,

1381
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,880
it's a beautiful accident what's happened, because there's nobody that

1382
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,760
could have predicted to it. You know, essentially, big bags

1383
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,800
of meat walking around on the planet, digging things up

1384
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,920
for another species, and suddenly here we are. You know,

1385
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,520
we're an incredible species, we really are, and we don't

1386
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,920
give ourselves and credit for it. And the way that

1387
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,159
we're living in the world right now is not the

1388
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,039
way that we were supposed to be living. And I

1389
01:20:57,119 --> 01:20:59,359
think and as we moved through and unpack some of

1390
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:01,439
this stuff, I think that's why a lot of ET's

1391
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,479
are here because they recognize that as well. You know,

1392
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,119
there is a level of intelligence where you move beyond

1393
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:10,720
you know, the feelings that we feel on a day

1394
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,359
to day basis. There is an evolution beyond that where

1395
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:18,159
you are essentially just a being working in complete symbiosis

1396
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:20,800
with the universe. You're not fighting it, you're not resistant,

1397
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:23,520
you are being, You're part of it.

1398
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,359
Speaker 2: You just you know, you're part of the universe. You

1399
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,399
just you know, And we're not.

1400
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 4: We seem to be this this crazy species that fight

1401
01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:35,720
tooth and nail against the against everything, resist everything, we

1402
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,359
destroy our planet, we just every turn. We just seem

1403
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,760
to be just chaos. But we don't need to be

1404
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,319
living that way. It's the establishment and the way that

1405
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,960
it's been forced upon us civilization. It bothers me when

1406
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,039
I hear things like, oh, we could go to Mars tomorrow,

1407
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:55,000
but we can't afford it says who we're all on

1408
01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:58,439
the same rock. We've all got the same resources. If

1409
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,560
you take away currency government tomorrow and just say well,

1410
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:06,039
let's build that, and let's there's nothing stopping us except ourselves.

1411
01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:09,319
It's where we're our biggest barrier. It's not you know,

1412
01:22:09,399 --> 01:22:12,239
the atmosphere, it's not the next universe, it's not speed

1413
01:22:12,279 --> 01:22:14,279
and distance between star systems.

1414
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: It's us.

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01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 4: We're the barrier and the moment. You know, what we

1416
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,079
need to do is a race. Is get this information

1417
01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:24,680
out there, learn, get disclosure gone, and really just take

1418
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,439
a step as a race.

1419
01:22:28,079 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: Like that's that's what I spoke about in the the

1420
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,520
solo episode that I did for for Across the Ponds,

1421
01:22:36,319 --> 01:22:40,199
which is uploaded and you can find it in the

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01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,640
in the episode list. You know, I spoke about, you know,

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01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,079
the divide between human beings and like how how ancient

1424
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,000
that is. But also we have so much in common

1425
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,199
and there is strength in numbers. So instead of you know,

1426
01:22:55,359 --> 01:22:58,520
just thinking about me, me, me, me me, you know,

1427
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:03,840
let's think about let's let's start to think about others again.

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01:23:04,039 --> 01:23:07,640
You know, we were very very good at that at

1429
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,560
some points, and we still are. You know, I am

1430
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,399
a I am a pagan, you know, I see a

1431
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,039
lot of pagan communities. I see a lot of religious

1432
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,279
communities who you know, really take care of each other.

1433
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,640
But it doesn't have to come from religion, just it

1434
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,960
has to just come from from a good place.

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01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: That's it.

1436
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,119
Speaker 4: And I think inherently as a species, we are a

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01:23:33,159 --> 01:23:36,560
good specy you know. Yeah, we've got the need inners

1438
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,760
and the want usually I mean ninety nine percent of

1439
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,359
the time to do the right thing and do a

1440
01:23:40,399 --> 01:23:43,720
good thing instinctively, because you know, we've got these lovely

1441
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,000
things called hormones and endolphins are released when we.

1442
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,319
Speaker 2: Do good for other people, you know.

1443
01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 4: And that's the way we're set up to help and

1444
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,520
do good for one another. That's why our body rewards

1445
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,279
us by releasing those hormones when we do good things. Yeah,

1446
01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:01,840
And for some reason, we've it's been habit into us

1447
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:07,119
through through establishment after establishment that we're all scrabbling as

1448
01:24:07,159 --> 01:24:09,840
individuals up the wall to get.

1449
01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: You know, to get something whatever that be, whether it

1450
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:13,680
be wealth.

1451
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: The craps in the bucket. As soon as as one,

1452
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,600
you know, looks like it's gonna make it out, the

1453
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,720
rest of us just pulls us back. It's like the

1454
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,720
fuck you are, We're not you're.

1455
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 4: Not, But I do think things are changing from something.

1456
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,359
You know, I've mentioned it throughout the video.

1457
01:24:29,359 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: Rapidly, yeah, very quick.

1458
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,119
Speaker 4: By the way, there is a shift I believe happening,

1459
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:35,159
and a major shift.

1460
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:36,279
Speaker 1: You know.

1461
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,119
Speaker 4: Weird thing is there's been world wars, canage, chaos, millions dead,

1462
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,039
but I don't think anything's really had the impact on

1463
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:46,800
the way that the world is moving now as it

1464
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,319
is now, do you know what I mean? The world's

1465
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:52,680
changing crazily fast and there's no world war. Yeah, there's

1466
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,199
there's conflict, but there's no world war that's pushing the

1467
01:24:56,279 --> 01:24:57,880
change like in recent times.

1468
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 3: No physical you know, bombs and guns exactly.

1469
01:25:02,039 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 4: The traditional sense of the words is almost like a

1470
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,680
spiritual evolution happening across the world, I suppose.

1471
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1472
01:25:09,319 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 4: People just don't want to be led by establishments anymore,

1473
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,439
people in suits. I think it's almost like an anti

1474
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,800
authoritarian type evolution that's happening. I think we're looking for

1475
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,159
idols and inspiration as opposed to leaders, if that makes sense,

1476
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,479
do you know what I mean? People that lead from

1477
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,920
the front and do good things seem to be what

1478
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,520
we're interested in as opposed to somebody with a list

1479
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,319
of credentials as long as my arm I don't think

1480
01:25:33,319 --> 01:25:37,439
anybody cares about that, which we take people more on

1481
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,760
their action and based on their actions as opposed to words. Nowadays,

1482
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,880
I think I think we're moving in a very good direction,

1483
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,680
scary direction, because there seems to be a lot of resistance.

1484
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,079
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's kind of like a video game,

1485
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:51,319
right it is. You know, if it's if the scary

1486
01:25:51,399 --> 01:25:56,840
music starts playing and there are you know, you're you know,

1487
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,359
you're going into the right direction. You just got to

1488
01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:02,279
go through. You know, at a certain point, the scary

1489
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:05,039
music will stop, lovely music is going to play again,

1490
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,399
and you've progressed to you know, the next level or

1491
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,920
the next stage, and you know you're that you're that

1492
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:15,439
much much closer to the end goal theory, you can

1493
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,039
you can apply it to a lot of things, and yeah,

1494
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:20,840
you know you can apply it to life. You just

1495
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,279
got to get through the rough bits. And we're in an.

1496
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,079
Speaker 2: Interesting transitional period for sure. But you know, I think

1497
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:29,319
I've said it before.

1498
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 4: I think by the end of twenty twenty seven, the

1499
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,840
full disclosure, I know we've we've said that. Oh it's

1500
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,800
already been disclosed. I know, but on an official scale.

1501
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,960
I mean, I'm not talking about a whistleblow. I'm talking

1502
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:43,039
about a dignitary somebody within with an authority, you know,

1503
01:26:43,159 --> 01:26:47,359
taking that and officially stating it that the area.

1504
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 2: And they've been here a long time and you know

1505
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,199
whatever else.

1506
01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:53,319
Speaker 4: I think whatever that level of disclosure, it might be

1507
01:26:53,359 --> 01:26:55,520
a soft disclosure with the pyramids, as I mentioned, it

1508
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,720
might be somebody behind electing just telling us. But I

1509
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,840
feel like more questions will come from and that's doubt it.

1510
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Let's do that for for episode two, kind of you know,

1511
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:11,600
philosophizing if you will, on how that disclosure would would

1512
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,000
look like. I think that's that's a that's a fun.

1513
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 4: Definitely, especially because you know you can build a case. Yeah, absolutely,

1514
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,560
it's a good I think it's a good topic to

1515
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,800
discuss the next month.

1516
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,119
Speaker 2: For sure. It's it's already happening now.

1517
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:29,520
Speaker 4: I think, you know, with this drone situation again, we'll

1518
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,239
talk about this. I don't want to get too hung up,

1519
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:33,960
but it's been a good it's been a good episode.

1520
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,199
I think we've really unpacked a lot of stuff on

1521
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:39,920
the old days, and I hope we've set the scene

1522
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:45,479
for anybody who is watching maybe aroused a little bit suspicion.

1523
01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:49,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, suspicion. Interest. Just you know, as long as we

1524
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,840
as long as we make you feel something that's right

1525
01:27:52,119 --> 01:27:54,199
we have, then we have accomplished our goal.

1526
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

1527
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,239
Speaker 4: I mean, we're not talking about turning people into avid

1528
01:27:59,359 --> 01:28:00,479
believers now.

1529
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,359
Speaker 2: But you know, this is a progressive journey.

1530
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: I was.

1531
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 4: It's curiosity, and that's what it's another beautiful trait of

1532
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:07,479
human beings.

1533
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 3: We're just pointing out things. We're just speaking from experience,

1534
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:17,159
telling you about the things that that we have discovered,

1535
01:28:17,399 --> 01:28:19,560
about the things that we have read, that we have seen,

1536
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,840
that we have heard, that we have felt, that we

1537
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,680
have sensed. Whether you believe us or not, that is

1538
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,359
up to you. We can we can make you believe

1539
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,680
as long as we you know, as long as we

1540
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,960
make you think. Yeah, as long as we make you feel.

1541
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:36,039
Speaker 2: And I said it to Andy the other day.

1542
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:38,279
Speaker 4: Andy, by the way, the other guy who's supposed to

1543
01:28:38,279 --> 01:28:40,800
be on here, I hope he's been recovered.

1544
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: By the way.

1545
01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 4: If he is when he watched this, I hope he's

1546
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,079
not still sat at the side of the road in

1547
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:45,479
his car.

1548
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: But as we said, you know, the other day.

1549
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,239
Speaker 4: There's going to be two kinds of people when this

1550
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:54,439
information is released officially. There's going to be the people

1551
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,199
who knew about it, and there's going to be the

1552
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:01,399
people who had know about it, had no idea, oblivious, ignorant, essentially,

1553
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,359
and the world will be blown apart. So you've got

1554
01:29:04,399 --> 01:29:06,640
to make a decision now, when you're listening to things

1555
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,960
like this and other people's podcasts, you make that decision

1556
01:29:10,359 --> 01:29:13,079
because when it comes out, and it will and it

1557
01:29:13,239 --> 01:29:15,520
is coming out, and there's note you can do about

1558
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,000
that to stop it, disclosure is coming.

1559
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,119
Speaker 2: Where are you going to be positioned. You're either going to.

1560
01:29:21,039 --> 01:29:23,399
Speaker 4: Be one of the people who has knowledge and other

1561
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,960
people will come to for guidance, or you're going to.

1562
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Be one of those scrambling up the.

1563
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,039
Speaker 4: World trying to get information, panicking. I know which one

1564
01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:33,319
I'm going to be. I know which one you're certainly

1565
01:29:33,359 --> 01:29:35,159
going to be, and Andy as well, when he gets

1566
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:37,279
back on I know which one he's going to be.

1567
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:39,800
But that's a decision you've got to make. And as

1568
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,319
you quite rightly pointed out, all we're doing is showing

1569
01:29:43,359 --> 01:29:45,479
you the information and do with it what you will.

1570
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:50,079
Speaker 3: Yes, and with all that said, we thank you all

1571
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:55,960
very much for joining us on this. This is rather

1572
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:01,079
interesting episode of Across the Pond. I have to get

1573
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:04,039
used to saying across the Pond, like I'm so used

1574
01:30:04,079 --> 01:30:09,119
to calling out my own show. But yeah, this has

1575
01:30:09,119 --> 01:30:12,119
been there's been great, this has been good. There's been

1576
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,960
good talk man for show hour and a half.

1577
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:17,039
Speaker 2: Not bad.

1578
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I still gotta do some some basic kind

1579
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,800
of thing of course. So yeah, if you liked any

1580
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,039
of what you heard, first of all, please please take

1581
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:34,640
take it, run with it, you know, go and make

1582
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,439
sure to follow us. If you're listening to this on

1583
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,159
Spotify or Apple podcasts, make sure to leave a five

1584
01:30:42,199 --> 01:30:46,399
star rating. Make sure you are subscribed. Subscribe to Across

1585
01:30:46,399 --> 01:30:50,399
the Pond on all the socials. I kind of still

1586
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:53,640
have to hear from Andy what socials those are exactly.

1587
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,279
I know we're on I know at least we're on TikTok.

1588
01:30:57,039 --> 01:30:59,359
Speaker 2: And we will be on YouTube as well.

1589
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, if eventually we will be on YouTube as well.

1590
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:07,319
It is the audio platforms now predominantly, and Facebook and

1591
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:12,279
TikTok and probably a couple other places.

1592
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,199
Speaker 2: But everywhere, and we're going to be everywhere.

1593
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 3: We will be everywhere. We will make sure that we

1594
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,279
are everywhere, and you know, until we are, please help

1595
01:31:22,359 --> 01:31:26,119
us make sure that we are by also sharing this episode,

1596
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:29,600
sharing the podcast with everyone, not just with the people

1597
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,720
you think will like it. Everyone. Everyone needs to hear.

1598
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:37,960
This is information that you know, a lot of it

1599
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,319
is publicly known, is publicly available for everyone. So let's

1600
01:31:42,359 --> 01:31:47,600
make this for everyone, and let's let's help everyone. So

1601
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,439
thank you all. We will see you next time. This

1602
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:57,520
has been Stein, Fox and Liam, two co hosts of

1603
01:31:58,119 --> 01:32:00,880
Across the Pond, and we will see you all. We

1604
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,680
will speak to you all next time. Bye.

1605
01:32:03,680 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 5: Bye.

1606
01:32:15,640 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 6: Sist confect, contracts, cottet Contritt, Content

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01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:38,800
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