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<v Speaker 1>KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Good morning, and God bless I'm Dominique Kaprima.

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<v Speaker 2>This show is called First Things First, and my first

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<v Speaker 2>thing every single day's prayer, giving, thanksgiving, praises and asking

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<v Speaker 2>for blessings from God, asking for the blessings of.

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<v Speaker 1>The ancestors and the elders. And let's go. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how we do it. I hope you do. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>new here, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a Freedman Friday, because that's what every Friday

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<v Speaker 2>is around here. On First Things First. That means that

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<v Speaker 2>our one we look local, what's going on on the

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<v Speaker 2>left coast side of town. Our two we focus on

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<v Speaker 2>reparations every week, as we have for over two years.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to be up on it. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>pass the test. We want to be part of the

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<v Speaker 2>vanguard that makes this happen for our people locally, nationally

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<v Speaker 2>and internationally. So we will do that. Doctor Quicku Ramel

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<v Speaker 2>Smith joins us today and we'll talk about the mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>the psychological aspect of repair. And then hour three we

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<v Speaker 2>do well, it's kind of a grab bag. On Fridays,

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<v Speaker 2>we do a thing, we do something today. I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>excited because I get to talk to two young people

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<v Speaker 2>who have just graduated from Saint Mary's. The valedictorian and

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<v Speaker 2>the salutorian will be here, which I try to bring

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<v Speaker 2>more young people's perspectives. I think we talk to our

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<v Speaker 2>own generations a little too much and not enough intergenerational conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rema tech Le and Sofia Ometo will be here

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<v Speaker 2>to chop it up with us, and we'll get their

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<v Speaker 2>views on what's going on in the world and also yours.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're invited in at eight hundred nine to oh

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen eighty, eight hundred nine to oh fifteen eighty, you're

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<v Speaker 2>invited in every hour, and not only that, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see us on Facebook where we are streaming every day

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<v Speaker 2>Monday through Friday, and then on YouTube there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>conversation in the comments section where my kblad allegation has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to say, and you are more than invited.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to peep out what you have to say

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<v Speaker 2>in real time as we move through this. So go

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<v Speaker 2>to YouTube dot com and then KBLA fifteen eighty. We're

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<v Speaker 2>starting off live today. We're starting off live and in

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<v Speaker 2>studio and giving you just.

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<v Speaker 1>A full Friday as we celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>However, many years have gone by since nineteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the anniversary this week of the Wats Uprising

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly the tradition of.

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<v Speaker 1>Rebellion.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say of this area, LA will

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate that right now. Joining us right now live in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, we have the pastor of the historic Fame Church.

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<v Speaker 2>He serves as pastor one of the nation's oldest and

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<v Speaker 2>mostly influential African American congregations. You know that if you

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<v Speaker 2>live here, you know that if you track churches. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an advocate for justice as well as a preacher committed

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<v Speaker 2>to proclaiming the Gospel, he says while addressing spiritual, social

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<v Speaker 2>and economic needs within the community, Doctor Timothy Tyler, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning, Thank you for coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be here and have a little tag

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<v Speaker 3>along with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Your minders here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Reverend Judy Wortham is the executive director of

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<v Speaker 3>our five o' one c three at Fame First Amy Church,

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles. Slack Deck and I'll let her tell you

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<v Speaker 3>what slack deck stands for.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning and thank you for having us. Slack Deck

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<v Speaker 4>is South Los Angeles Community Development and Empowerment Corporation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and together Fame and Slack Deck will be doing

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<v Speaker 3>some great things this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, thank you for coming in to Reverend

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<v Speaker 2>mar them, It's nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 3>And to her defense, I made her come.

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<v Speaker 1>Killing. I'm not going to ask for the backstory about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave that all the way Ala. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things we think of when

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<v Speaker 2>we think of Fame is exactly that, the combination of

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<v Speaker 2>worship and activism.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you call it activism, community organizing justice.

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<v Speaker 3>I called it activism, community organizing justice. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>even throw the word politics in there. A. It was

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<v Speaker 3>Fame that gave birth to the first black mayor of

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, Thomas Bradley, who was a trustee at Fame

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<v Speaker 3>under the leadership of the then Reverend H. H. Brookings,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the famous freedom fighters of Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 3>then social justice community activism. Of course, everyone knows the

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<v Speaker 3>historic cecil Chip Murray, who brought calm to the city

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<v Speaker 3>during the Ridney King uprising. And so I would say

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<v Speaker 3>that all of that goes into make Fame a very

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<v Speaker 3>special place, and I think a very biblical place if

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<v Speaker 3>we look at the Jesus, who we really serve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I love that you're not afraid to say politics,

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<v Speaker 2>even in this environment that we're in right now, right, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It needs to be said more than ever. And if

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<v Speaker 3>we don't get involved in this politics, we are hitting

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<v Speaker 3>down a slippery slope based on where we are in

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<v Speaker 3>our society.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Wartham, are we do you see us getting more involved?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like I don't know. I'm not an.

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<v Speaker 2>Expert, but from folks I've talked to and what I've

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<v Speaker 2>observed that we are moving into an era when the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Church is returning more to it its roots of

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<v Speaker 2>help and social justice.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that our roots definitely tell us where we

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<v Speaker 4>need to go back to. And I also believe that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at your sign then, apologic, unapologetically progressive. That's

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<v Speaker 4>who we are and that's who we have to be.

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<v Speaker 4>The church has been in a place where we can

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<v Speaker 4>do what we need to do as people of color.

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<v Speaker 4>Black folk need to get back to our roots, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And when you say roots, you're talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the roots. It's funny. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was writing.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a little article that I was writing outside of here, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned Biddy Mason, and this friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, well, not everybody knows who Bittty Mason is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say, what, Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an LA perspective. So talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Bitty Mason because maybe people don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly that would be an inspiring thing for your

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<v Speaker 2>Friday if you learn.

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<v Speaker 3>Bitty Mason will be the reason for our celebration this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Biddy Mason. We will be celebrating her birthday coming up

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend at Fame Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Betty Mason

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<v Speaker 3>was born in eighteen eighteen, and I call her one

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<v Speaker 3>of the mother founders of Los Angeles back in the

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<v Speaker 3>early day. Betty Mason is our hero and our hero.

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<v Speaker 3>She walked all the way from Mississippi to Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 3>literally walk literally walked.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading that and thinking, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally literally.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a few months.

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<v Speaker 3>I told my wife the other day, you left them

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<v Speaker 3>ask me to walk, so I don't even like walking

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<v Speaker 3>to the bathroom. She walked from Mississippi to Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>and that walk was revolutionary because she became an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 3>and she founded First Am Church along with other founders

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<v Speaker 3>who saw the need for a place of spiritual strength

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<v Speaker 3>while they were while they were while they were fighting

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<v Speaker 3>for their liberation. And so we're going to lift up, remember,

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate and help people to know who Bridget Biddy Mason was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to also just add a little context.

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<v Speaker 2>Here before we move on. Yes, she walked from Mississippi

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<v Speaker 2>to Los Angeles and became one of the founders and

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<v Speaker 2>most influential persons in early Los Angeles. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like she was just leaving Equinox Club and going to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a woman who was enslaved.

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<v Speaker 3>She was enslave and she was she was forced to walk,

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<v Speaker 3>and in fact, when she got to Los Angeles, they

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<v Speaker 3>tried to they tried to drag her back to They

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<v Speaker 3>tried to drag her to Texas and put her back

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<v Speaker 3>in slavery, and she took the She went to court

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<v Speaker 3>over the issue and she won the court case, which

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<v Speaker 3>was phenomenal back then. We can't hardly win court cases now.

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<v Speaker 1>Into right, So she she was enslave when she left.

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<v Speaker 2>Came to California, which we know has its own history

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<v Speaker 2>of enslaved minifies. If you're unclear on that, just check

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<v Speaker 2>out the Reparations Task Force reports about twelve hundred pages.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were trying to when she got here. She

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<v Speaker 1>got her freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she got her freedom, and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Took that freedom to court and tested it. That's something

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen too often.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it didn't happen too often. As I said then,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to say it doesn't happen too often

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<v Speaker 3>now that we go to court.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even want to try it, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even know you report to Seacott.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'd like to add something about Absolutely, I love

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<v Speaker 4>she was a midwife, so as she walked across the

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<v Speaker 4>with the wagon train, she birthed all the humans and

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<v Speaker 4>all the animals that were born all the way across

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<v Speaker 4>the country. That always just makes me like, wow, you

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<v Speaker 4>were all that Anta baggageis I have on this dress

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<v Speaker 4>today because it has black women on the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Its beautiful dress, by the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, and it's my she will dress, So I wore

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<v Speaker 4>it onn of her.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I brought her.

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<v Speaker 1>But absolutely, I mean imagine I had not. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>May I may have read that, but I hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really that detail hadn't sunk in walking from Mississippi to California,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, leaving a trail of little babies living, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>safe babies in your wake is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then giving birth to a great church.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, well we'll go a little deeper into that

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<v Speaker 2>when we come forward. Reverend one of them is here,

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<v Speaker 2>Reverend Tyler is here, and yes it's Friday, not Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>And listening to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids right now, right now, if you're in l A,

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<v Speaker 2>you know First day e Church. If you're not in LA,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get to know it a little right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But not just the church. Everything that stands for the

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<v Speaker 2>church has been was founded in eighteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that correct? That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So Bittty Mason born in eighteen eighteen. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if we know exactly when she arrived in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>But she ends up winning her court case, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then somehow, and this is the part that is

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<v Speaker 2>not always clear, ends up owning massive swaths of real

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<v Speaker 2>estate in LA.

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<v Speaker 3>It is amazing. And I was thinking about that this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of her real estate is right was right

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<v Speaker 3>across from what we call Pershing Square today, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a mass effort by the community to have that area

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<v Speaker 3>renamed after bridge of Bittty Mason. But it's amazing because

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, how much would I have to pay

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<v Speaker 3>if I purchased the property across from Persian if I

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<v Speaker 3>could today, how much money would that be?

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<v Speaker 4>And also fascinating about that is that she was not

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing to me. The first woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Through her midwifery, Yeah, she saved it her my name

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<v Speaker 1>We were saving, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, people were saving trying to exactly whether we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>it because we didn't know when it was coming back again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and some of us are waiting for it today.

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<v Speaker 2>See yeah, yeah, Well, so I mean that at what

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<v Speaker 2>point does she become one of the founders of the church.

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<v Speaker 2>Connect the dots if you will.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And it did not start out as First Am Church.

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<v Speaker 3>That name evolved over years. Uh. There was the one

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<v Speaker 3>of the original names, Saint Stephen's uh Church, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that name evolved over the years, but it was but

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<v Speaker 3>she along with the group of founders, were the primary

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<v Speaker 3>prime movers of the worship space that we know as

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<v Speaker 3>First Am Church today. Uh. And we've over the years

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<v Speaker 3>in our history, we've always tried to live up to

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<v Speaker 3>that that high standard that Biddy Mason set for community

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<v Speaker 3>very proud to be the past of a church, especially

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<v Speaker 3>where a black woman is the I call it the

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I also think there is something very

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how low the prices were. Those were,

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<v Speaker 3>Price equivalent for them. Yeah, for them, Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that the church has main attained a

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<v Speaker 3>It has maintained a commitment to that spirit. And in

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<v Speaker 3>never been broken. And that's the spirit of Bitty Mason.

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<v Speaker 3>She had bad times and good times, but her legacy

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<v Speaker 3>is strong, and First Ammy Church is legacy is strong,

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<v Speaker 3>and the people there, I just I don't think any

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<v Speaker 3>and struggles that First Aami Church has gone through and

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<v Speaker 3>even be here today. But it just it it amazes me.

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<v Speaker 3>It oftentimes make it. I pinch myself in church to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure I am the person that they sent to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the pastor, and I'm just grateful for their history and

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<v Speaker 3>for how they have overcome so much.

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<v Speaker 4>And our model is first to serve. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>proud of that because I'm always asking myself what else

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<v Speaker 4>can we do to be first to serve? People need

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<v Speaker 4>as the place that go to for what they need,

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<v Speaker 4>and we need so much right now. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>blessing to be serving at a place where our primary

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I imagine as a pastor stepping into a spot

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<v Speaker 2>with the legacy of you know, Reverend Brookings and you

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<v Speaker 2>know pastor of Murray. Yes, you know, it's a little

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's a little it's very dauntant. I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>I was my last stop. I was in Denver for

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen years, but I remember growing up in Denver, I

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<v Speaker 3>Bishop Brookins and Cecil Chip Murray helped to finance my

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<v Speaker 3>seminary education and he also mentored me during my working

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<v Speaker 3>on my doctoral education. And so these men were part

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<v Speaker 3>of my preparation. And so I'm very proud of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I honor that as I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 3>I'm stepping into their shoes, but I'm certainly aware of

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<v Speaker 1>So they planted the seeds for their succession.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're saying, I also think, Pastor, you should share

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<v Speaker 4>who your mother is.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mother is a longtime Los Angeles activists. She

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<v Speaker 3>was then presiding Elder Carolyn Tyler Guidry. She worked with

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<v Speaker 3>second female bishop in the African Methodist Episcopal Church. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's two hundred and thirty years uh, and she served

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<v Speaker 3>proudly in the Caribbean. She served in Mississippi, Louisiana. She

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<v Speaker 3>retired and uh, she passed away last year. But thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>But my mother has a strong history here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>And so while I'm dealing with Bishop Brookings ghosts and

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<v Speaker 3>Reverend Cecil Chip Murray's ghosts, my mother's ghost office show.

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<v Speaker 3>I needed all the shows up in.

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<v Speaker 2>My office full of ancest es, full of ancest but

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<v Speaker 2>also your mom, you know, being such a mover and

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<v Speaker 2>shaker in law pack as well as you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the church. So it sounds like that combination of activism

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<v Speaker 2>and church, sort of the classic Martin Luther King Junior

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<v Speaker 3>And also the spirit of my father. Carrie Tyler, you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about the anniversary of the wats Uprising in

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<v Speaker 3>eight months after I was born, and they were coming

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<v Speaker 3>Edgar MegaR Evers before he was shot. They were at

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<v Speaker 3>may have thought that coming to Los Angeles may have

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<v Speaker 3>when the Wats Uprising happened that he gathered us all

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think that was when reality hit that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we only have a minute here before news, traffic

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<v Speaker 2>and sports, and we'll keep the conversation going on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. So it's probably not fair to ask, but

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, which is how do those how

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<v Speaker 2>does that mission manifest today? Like what are the programs,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the services and of course this weekends events

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<v Speaker 3>You want to do that in thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to start it? Okay? Started, Okay, we'll finish it.

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<v Speaker 4>So we we have a dermatology services at the Wellness Center.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a Bitty Mason Community wellness center that I

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<v Speaker 4>am the proud director of. And in addition to that,

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<v Speaker 4>we have mental health services, we have have caregivers program.

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<v Speaker 4>We also have a eight bed garden in the backyard

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<v Speaker 4>that is flourishing. We have classes that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>That seconds? That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna keep it going because these are important things

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<v Speaker 2>more on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty and we are talking

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<v Speaker 2>with the folks from First Amy Church. But we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>Biddy Mason. We're talking history. We're talking LA history and

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<v Speaker 2>service service, social justice activism, the things that First Ammy

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<v Speaker 2>Church is known for. The pastor of that church, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Tyler, is here, and Reverend Judy Wortham is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell me your title again, Reverend war.

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<v Speaker 4>Them executive director of Flack Deck, our nonprofit of.

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<v Speaker 2>An Okay, yes, So we're talking about a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>really the history of Bitty Mason, which is what you

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<v Speaker 2>are celebrating this weekend. And if you don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>Biddy Mason is, well now you know you can call

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<v Speaker 2>in if you have something to say about it eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and nine two oh fifteen eighty. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she should be more known nationally, but even here in

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<v Speaker 2>La should be on the level of you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, if it were not for her, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>any of those people would have found their their footing

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles. So we owe a lot of our will,

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<v Speaker 3>We owe a lot of who we are to Bridgie

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<v Speaker 3>Biddy Mason and the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>That she her descendants don't still own Pershing Squores. She

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<v Speaker 2>ended up selling that land.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Yes, yes she did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I say that because we assume, oh it

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<v Speaker 2>was taken by eminent domain. No, she actually made a

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<v Speaker 2>think of Bitty Mason. I mean, she had a hard life,

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<v Speaker 2>but she definitely had agency.

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<v Speaker 3>She had agency. Yeah, and we want to hopefully we

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<v Speaker 3>will be able to get will at least mark that

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<v Speaker 3>space in a way that will that people will always

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<v Speaker 3>know that her legacy and her spirit is still there

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<v Speaker 3>even though she had to sell it, or she chose

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<v Speaker 2>Now we were going through the list, Reverend worthm of

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<v Speaker 2>the kinds of things that we know for Stammy for

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<v Speaker 2>But some people may think, oh, well that was back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, it's not anymore. You said mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>a caregivers program. I'm assuming you're talking about the Sandwich

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<v Speaker 2>generation and those folks who are caring for elder family members.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about a thriving garden.

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<v Speaker 1>And would you like to add on to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Tyler First, Amy is still known in the community

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<v Speaker 3>to be that church that that we want to be

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<v Speaker 3>proactive and not reactive to what happens in our community.

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<v Speaker 3>We are still interested in making sure that we have

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<v Speaker 3>office and walk around the neighborhood and make sure everything

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<v Speaker 3>was in order, and if it wasn't in order, he

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<v Speaker 3>would grab some church members and he would get it

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<v Speaker 3>in order. And I want to have that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>legacy where sometimes I will walk out of Now I

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<v Speaker 3>need to walk out of my office also because I

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<v Speaker 3>need to walk We all I need to, but it

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<v Speaker 3>is it is I see my role as not only

435
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<v Speaker 3>to be the pastor inside those four walls, but to

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<v Speaker 3>be a community pastor, such as the Bishop J. H.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Brookins and Cecil Chip Murray. They were community pastors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a feeling if we were in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>we would know that that is your legacy already. It's

440
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<v Speaker 1>not something you just started up ten months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a story.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, for those who you know follow these

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<v Speaker 2>things which a lot of our KBLA delegation do. The

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<v Speaker 2>death of an unhoused man named Marvin Booker, Yes this

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<v Speaker 2>is in twenty ten. This was a battle that you,

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<v Speaker 2>as a pastor, took up from a social.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Justice Yes, it was a battle, and the whole church,

448
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<v Speaker 3>the entire shorter community Ammy Church, took up this battle

449
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<v Speaker 3>when very few people wanted to. And it taught us

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<v Speaker 3>that sometimes the church has to give leadership. Short as

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<v Speaker 3>a historical church in Denver, first black church older than

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but that I mean, even though obviously we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't bring back mister Booker, the family was awarded a

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<v Speaker 2>sizeable settlement, which was the biggest excessive force yes settlement

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver history.

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<v Speaker 3>Right awarded by an all white jury in an all,

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<v Speaker 3>in a very white city, in a very white state.

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<v Speaker 3>That was telling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I imagine the presence and activism of the church

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<v Speaker 2>around this had a huge role in that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it did. And it was a five year process,

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<v Speaker 3>so it didn't happen overnight, but the church played a

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<v Speaker 3>major role in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's notable too, because there are some folks

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<v Speaker 2>that like to, you know, not just in churches, in

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<v Speaker 2>community organizing, in the media, like to run out when

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<v Speaker 2>a story is so called hot, correct and then leave

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<v Speaker 2>it and go to the next so called hot story,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving a grieving family or an impacted community to fend

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves after the cameras go yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And it happened when when the fight first started, there

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<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of leaders who chose and churches

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<v Speaker 3>who chose not to be a part of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when the when the jury came back with their

476
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<v Speaker 3>verdict in that case, a whole lot of people all

477
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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden became a part of that victory.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's okay, Yeah, that's okay, Well it's not okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, it's what happens, right, And so we celebrated

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<v Speaker 5>with that family and hopefully that opens the door.

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<v Speaker 3>Denver is a rough place. It's just a rough place.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a historical place for black people. It has

483
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<v Speaker 3>quite a history in itself. But it's rough. It's not

484
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<v Speaker 3>it's not Los Angeles. It is a very small black community.

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<v Speaker 3>So we we celebrate our victories there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think we should celebrate the mayor too. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Spent a little bit of time there. My mom would

489
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<v Speaker 2>teach in Colorado summers, and it is quite a shell

490
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<v Speaker 2>shock if you're used to I was used to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area and then lak you know, there's they'd say

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<v Speaker 2>we're a small in number here, but eight percent of

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<v Speaker 2>four million is a lot of black people. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely, it's definitely yeah, it's definitely a different energy,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they say it's a democratic state. Anyway, Another

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<v Speaker 2>thing I noticed, pastor about you, doctor Timothy Tyler's who

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to in case you're just waking up, is

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<v Speaker 2>that you actually have your commitment to black lives matter

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<v Speaker 2>in your bio. Most pastors wouldn't want.

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<v Speaker 1>That, how do you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, or they would be if they wanted it,

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<v Speaker 2>they might be too afraid to put it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you do that and how does that connect to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your way of preaching, your way of reaching your congregants.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important to me because I always, I always marked

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<v Speaker 3>the period of Black Lives Matter. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that it should always be in our history alongside

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<v Speaker 3>the Civil Rights movement and the Middle Passage, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was a time and a space in our

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<v Speaker 3>country where but I think it also it was a

511
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<v Speaker 3>wake up call to the Black church, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>Black Lives Matter was the first and maybe the only

513
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<v Speaker 3>large movement of black people in our nation where the

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<v Speaker 3>church did not start it or give leadership to it,

515
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<v Speaker 3>or was not much involved in it. And so Black

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<v Speaker 3>Lives Matter always reminds me that that if the church

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<v Speaker 3>is not a part of the struggle, then the church

518
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<v Speaker 3>is not fulfilling its mission and its call. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I keep it in front of me so that when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm preaching, when I'm having a church meeting, when even

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<v Speaker 3>when we just downstairs eating fried chicken, God and help us,

522
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<v Speaker 3>we are always reminded that community is first, and that

523
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<v Speaker 3>the struggle should always be that the church should always

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<v Speaker 3>have its feet in the struggle. And so Black Lives

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<v Speaker 3>Matter I celebrated and we should be reminded in the

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<v Speaker 3>Black church that black lives do matter. All lies and.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course the boots on the ground aspect of black

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<v Speaker 2>lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter. Grassroots was born in la Yes, and yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do remember the conflict between some members of the church

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<v Speaker 2>and the organizers. Now the organization has fifty six chapters,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are pastors involved, not too many, but a

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<v Speaker 2>few pastors like Pastor Starsky Wilson of the Children's Defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Stark Wizard is my mentee and my student, my seminary students,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or dots get connected, you know, it's hard to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your own way of preaching or your own way

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<v Speaker 2>of organizing. So maybe that's why one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why Reverend Judy worthm is here. What would you say

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<v Speaker 2>about what he just said?

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<v Speaker 4>So the reason why I want him to about his

542
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<v Speaker 4>preaching is because he is not afraid to tell the

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<v Speaker 4>truth about what's going on. And so many times we

544
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<v Speaker 4>want to, as fallowers of Jesus Christ, we want to

545
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<v Speaker 4>sugarcoat things. This man right here, he lays it out.

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<v Speaker 4>And anybody who I have friends who are not going

547
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<v Speaker 4>to church, they are watching him because they hear the

548
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<v Speaker 4>truth and we hide the truth streaming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you can stream.

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<v Speaker 4>The services now, Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I left since twenty twenty exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm so pleased to hear when they call me

553
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<v Speaker 4>and say your pastor's off the chain, and I say,

554
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<v Speaker 4>why do you say that? Because he's telling the truth.

555
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<v Speaker 4>He tells the truth about Trump, about what we need

556
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<v Speaker 4>to do, about how we should not be afraid, how

557
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<v Speaker 4>this is. We've been through this before, we can do

558
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<v Speaker 4>it again the same God. So we hear that over

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00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 4>and over again, and we leave excited. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to use the word pep rally, but that's what

561
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<v Speaker 4>I think about it, right, But we feel like we

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<v Speaker 4>feel energized and ready to fight the good fight.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the folks in the chat room, Reverend Judy

564
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<v Speaker 2>worthm is over the Community Foundation, right, some folks are

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<v Speaker 2>just assuming that you're.

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<v Speaker 1>At doctor Tyler's life. She might have the last name Tyler.

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<v Speaker 4>They need to meet her though. She's brilliant. I call

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<v Speaker 4>him Michelle Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>She's brilliant, the first lady two PC yes, yeah, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Well she also made the bio, which I mean and

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<v Speaker 2>not just like oh and my beautiful ones, not just that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, her section is probably longer than mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Juanita Moseby Tyler, who is known for equity and

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<v Speaker 2>a usion, which is quite a battle right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, quite a battle, quite a battle. But she's she

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<v Speaker 3>has weathered the storm. And I tell her to her

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<v Speaker 3>to her credit in a time when those are bad words.

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<v Speaker 3>Evidently the people that have relied on her think that

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<v Speaker 3>she's doing her work well because she has she still

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<v Speaker 3>continues to do it, and we're very proud of her.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, well, we are talking with yes, we're talking with

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<v Speaker 2>the pastors.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't be shy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to call, you're always welcome in eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred nine to oh fifteen eighty. Eight hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 2>to oh fifteen eighty is the number. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say something, you can hop on YouTube at KBLA

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen eighty. Reverend doctor Timothy Tyler, Reverend Judy Wortham are

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<v Speaker 2>with me. Betty Mason might be somewhere in here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's here, might be around here too. We're celebrating la

591
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<v Speaker 2>we're celebrating activism. We're celebrating the birthday of Bitty Mason.

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<v Speaker 2>On KBLA Talk fifteen eighty community. But if you need

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<v Speaker 2>some church Sunday mornings at nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday mornings at nine am.

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<v Speaker 2>Old school, get up, go to church. But also it's

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like very modern in terms of you can stream

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<v Speaker 2>it on the website. On the Fame website.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the first AMI Church Los Angeles website and

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<v Speaker 3>see how worship service. I'd love to see you in person, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Fame Church La dot org. Famed Church La dot

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<v Speaker 2>org show up at nine at YouTube visit or on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay is a streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of churches are saying that they're having

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<v Speaker 2>trouble getting folks in and that people are either leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the faith altogether, going into a sort of more generalized

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with God that's not tied to any particular institution

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<v Speaker 2>or faith tradition, or that they just want to watch online.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're still in the post COVID era.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting phenomenon. I have met so many people

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles since I arrived who have introduced themselves, Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one of your online members, so I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad to meet you. Or we've had people now they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're joining the church online so they'll tell me, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they were about five people the day and they said

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<v Speaker 3>they want to join the church, and they were watching

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<v Speaker 3>us online, and so I have somebody to contact them.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has forced us to broaden our imagination of

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<v Speaker 3>how we include people in church. And I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you also have people showing up, is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yes, yes, yes, yeah, And maybe I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's you know, you're you're preaching, but also maybe

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<v Speaker 2>what Reverend Wortham was talking about is that folks need

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<v Speaker 2>encouragement right now. I mean people are and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just I mean yes, I don't mean to say just,

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<v Speaker 2>but only in the sphere of religion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also people need encouragement for the fight right politics

627
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<v Speaker 1>and social justice in life.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of boomers especially, but also young adults. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're we're living in a time you're where where military

630
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<v Speaker 3>people are jumping off of ships, you know, and it's

631
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<v Speaker 3>we're living in a crazy time. We're living I call

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<v Speaker 3>it in the Trump era, and people need encouragement. People

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<v Speaker 3>need hope, and it's my prayer that they're coming to

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<v Speaker 3>church and they will come to church in order to

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<v Speaker 3>look for that hope and to find that hope, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that puts a heavy oness on us as people

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<v Speaker 3>of faith to make sure that what we are giving

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<v Speaker 3>to people is that thing that they are looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Willie from Palmdale, what are you looking for? You're home

640
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<v Speaker 2>with Reverend Tyler and Reverend Wortham and me.

641
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<v Speaker 7>I thank you for taking my call. I was just wondering,

642
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<v Speaker 7>how do you balance serving God and living in the

643
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 7>political world.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting question the way that I balance, And

645
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 3>thank you for that question about balancing, balancing living for

646
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 3>God and living in the political world. I always remind

647
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 3>myself that Jesus had to live in a political world.

648
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Oftentimes they would come to him, remember when they asked

649
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>him about, uh give do you give to God or

650
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 3>do you give to the government. He was always balancing

651
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 3>issues about politics and about religion. And so I realized

652
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 3>that I have to do that as well. And the

653
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Black Church has always been involved in politics because it

654
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 3>was our religion that got us through a lot of

655
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 3>political crisis. And so it's not really even a balancing,

656
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 3>it's just a natural, natural sinking up of the things

657
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 3>that we have to deal with in the world and

658
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 3>our goal to get to the other world, and so

659
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 3>it comes very easy for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you. Willie appreciate good to hear from you.

661
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Will He usually calls in when he needs some solace,

662
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>so I guess he's feeling feeling us today. So tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about the weekend. What is going on at the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>I assume folks are invited, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to be a very exciting week And

666
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<v Speaker 3>it starts today at eleven o'clock am. We're going to

667
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 3>gather at the Evergreen Cemetery and we are going to

668
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 3>pay homage to the founders of fame, and we're going

669
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 3>to lay a wreath at the burial place of Bridget

670
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Biddy Mason, and we're going to acknowledge and see where

671
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>some of her other family members have been buried. And

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<v Speaker 3>so it will be a day of remembrance and a

673
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 3>day of solace as we honor our founder at the

674
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>place where she is resting.

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00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 4>And then on Saturday, on Saturday, we have the Bitty

676
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Mason Birthday Brunch. It is actually her birthday on Tomorrow,

677
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 4>August fifteenth. We will be starting at eleven am going

678
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 4>to two pm and it's like a reception to honor

679
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 4>her and there as a home that we own that

680
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.239
<v Speaker 4>is beautiful.

681
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Twenty two forty one Home Barks Yes, twenty one South,

682
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>built in nineteen ten, and the builder of that house

683
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 3>is also the founder of the Grand Central Market downtown.

684
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a historical home that first day and Me purchased

685
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's going to become the same community house. So

686
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 3>we will do our gang intervention, We're going to do

687
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 3>a liberation academy stepping in to teach history to adults

688
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 3>and children. We're going to do micro business work, and

689
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 3>all that will happen at the same community house. So

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00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow we're going to be feeding you and we're going

691
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 3>to ask you to feed us with donations yes, so

692
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 3>that we can renovate that beautiful We're going to keep

693
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 3>it in that nineteen ten spirit, but we're going to

694
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>renovate it and we've already started working on that. And

695
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 3>so we're going to ask the community to help us

696
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>to remember Biddy Mason's entrepreneurial spirit tomorrow as we celebrate

697
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 3>her birthday. And then on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Our Biddy Nation Worship celebration service, where we will asking

699
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 4>to have an actress who is going to her whole

700
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 4>life is around impersonating Beatty Mason costume and everything. Yes,

701
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 4>so she's gonna come in full costume, and the whole

702
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 4>service is dedicated to honoring Biddy Bridget Mason excited.

703
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 3>The famed mass choir will will sing on Sunday close

704
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 3>to one hundred and it's gonna be. It's gonna be.

705
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a great worship service. I'm not sure

706
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 3>if I'm gonna be preaching. I think I'm gonna be

707
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 3>preaching Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>My question.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh uh. They told me. They told me I better

710
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 3>preach Sunday. So somewhere between the dancing, the singing, the acting,

711
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and the celebration, I'm gonna get two or three words

712
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.280
<v Speaker 3>in there. But it's gonna be a great, great weekend.

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00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>We wanted everyone to come and share it with us.

714
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

715
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

716
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Is this the first annual?

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00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Amen? Yeah, you should say it.

719
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 2>You should.

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00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the first time we've done it in

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00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 3>this way, in this magnitude. Yes, because why why wouldn't we?

722
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 7>Right?

723
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I like that, it just it kind of makes sense.

724
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I like it.

725
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Tell us we only time flies when you're on the radio.

726
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>We only have a couple minutes left. Tell us about

727
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>how to contact you, track you access the services other

728
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>than coming this weekend. I mean you've got three opportunities Friday,

729
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, today today at eleven, starting at eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Evergreens Cemetery.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow the brunch is at.

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00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Twenty to forty one Hobart, Yes South.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to give people an opportunity to experience

734
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>that space much like it was in nineteen ten and

735
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a beautiful space.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Sunday, of course at nine, yes for the

737
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>regular services. That won't be the regular services because it

738
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>sounds like right right, No, it won't be there and

739
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>cosentry and honoring of Biddy Macey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the website is the best place to find us,

741
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 4>famed Church la dot org.

742
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 3>That's the best place to get our contact information, to

743
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 3>call the church office and to get a handle them

744
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>on all of the wonderful activities that will be happening

745
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 3>this weekend. Now, the premier way to find us is

746
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>just to get up at about Sunday, get in your car,

747
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Amen pastor seventy Harvard Boulevard.

748
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>So why do we have to get up at Can

749
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we get up at eight forty three?

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00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, that works my wife.

751
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Wife, My wife would agree with you.

752
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll take it. We just want to see you just

753
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 1>get there. Love to see us get there. Well, it's

754
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>been a pleasure talking with you.

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00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for this opportunity, and doctor Timothy Tyler, thank

756
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you so much for coming in. Thank you, thank you,

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00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 2>and happy h Biddy Mason weekend, all of us, thank

758
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you so much. Indeed, we're talking reparations next hour. Doctor

759
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Quaiku will join us and we're going to look at

760
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the psychological aspects of our repair. Boy, the ancestors are

761
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>dancing around here today. It's KBLA Talk fifteen eighty