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From my perspective, always has been a veterinarian is I

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think that we need to help you understand more about

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what your pets needs are and when things aren't going right,

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or when I like to say, is when your pet

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is adr ain't doing right, what can you do? What

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or your veterinarian get about trying to finanswers how fast,

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how many tests do they need to run, and how

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much money do you need to spend? Typically, I think

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it's too much. So that's why we're here. We're here

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to help and just sort of equip you with a

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little bit more knowledge. And in that line, because I

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have a lot of I know you're listening out there,

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because I get some emails and we're answering them, and

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we're going to do another one today. For some reason,

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everybody's so shy. Don't be afraid. You know. I had

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a live radio show here in Los Angeles on KBC

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Talk Radio, and we would get It was an hour show,

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and we've got I don't know, maybe fifteen twenty calls

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an hour. So I know that if I even cut

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that in half, we should be getting at least six

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or seven of you to call in, write in eight

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that easy, and it's free. So over the last several weeks,

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going through our organ systems, we've been on eyes. We

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went through a lot of ocular conditions that one might

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see or expect to see, and I sort of wanted

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to end with probably the most common reasons that you're

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going to bring your pet in for an eye problem,

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and that is what we talked about last week. Conjunctiveis

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conjunctiveis just being an irritation. A redness the white part

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of the eye called a sclera is injected, meaning if

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you see it's a lot redder pinker. If you look

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up real close and personal, you'll see as a matter

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of fact. But I would recommend all of you do

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not right now because I want you to stay online.

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But when you get home or when you're with your pets,

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I want you to lift up their upper lid and

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really get a good look at the sclera. Because their

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sclera has more vasculature normally than we do. Their whites

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of their eyes are not as white. They do have

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a fair amount of visible vessels that you can see.

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And the reason I want you to do this is

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because I want you to understand and know your dog

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or cat's normal. So when it is abnormal, when it

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is too white, okay, that could mean anemia. If it

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actually the white sclera has a yellowish haze, that could

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be jaundice that could indicate a major liver problem. Or

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if it is much pink or reder like our pink eye,

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then you know we have a scleeral injection. We have

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probably some sort of inflammatory condition going on. That's called conjunctivitis. Now,

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what is the conjunct taiva. The conjunct taiva really is

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all the pink tissue surrounding the eye, even the third eyelid.

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We talked about it a couple of weeks ago last week.

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That is a part of the conjunct taiba. When that

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is in flame, when you see more of it, that

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is conjunctivitis as well. So what causes conjunctivitis? And the

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list is very long and it could be anywhere from allergy,

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from irritation. For example, I can give you a good

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one if you ever driven with your dog in a car. Okay,

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what do they love to do? They love to stick

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their head out the window of that moving car, even

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on an LA Freeway going seventy five miles an hour,

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the wind in their face, their ears are flopping, their

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saliva's you know, drool is getting all over your back windows.

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They love to do it. Well, you know there are

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some difficulty with that, and that is that the difficulties

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could be that they can get what's called exposure carotitis.

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It doesn't seem to bother them, but those dust particles

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the air hitting that eyeball it's seventy miles an hour

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or more. If it's got his own speed coming at you,

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then they that can cause some irritation at the cornea.

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So that could cause conjunctivitis. That can cause a caratitis,

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which is the inflammation or irritation of the actual cornea,

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and that is very very It could be very damaging

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to the eye. It gets painful for the dog. They

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are actually a product out there called you may have

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seen these. They're kind of cute called dogg oles, and

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they look like, you know, kind of the old snoopy

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the glasses that you wear in the airplane that you know,

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if you can remember way back the old snoopy cartoons,

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But that's kind of what it looks like. And those

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protect the eyes. They look kind of funny. The dogs

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tolerate them pretty well, and they are to protect the

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eyes from exposure kerotitis and exposure, conjunctividis, other things that

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we might see pure allergies. When dogs have an allergic

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problem or if something gets in their eye that they're

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extremely sensitive to, they get a conjunctividis. For example, when

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you have a carotitis, the cornea is irritated. What do

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the dogs do? Dogs are continually blinking because the pain

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of discomfort. That can also cause a conjunctivitis infection. For

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those of you with cats out there, when we have

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chlamydia infection, which is one of the respiratory infections that

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usually presents with some sort of conjunctividis. Even the virals,

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the rhino tracheaetis, the Kalisi virus, which is what we

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vaccinate our cats. Again, the f VRCP. The P is

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for pad leukopenia cat fever. But these are all problems

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that we see related to conjunctividis. So it could be allergy,

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it could be infection, it could be irritation, you name it,

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we get that redness. Treatment obviously depends on what the

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cause is. If it's pure allergy, then we probably your

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veterinarian will recommend some sort of anti it'll be eye ointment,

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sometimes oral antibiotics as well. If it's a viral infection,

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some sort of anti viral there are some really good

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anti viral ophthalmic ointments. There are some really good antibacterial

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ointments with cats. With cats, I caution against using the

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triple antibiotic ointment. It's okay for dogs, but there is

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a it's a small number, but we don't know exactly,

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we can't identify. It's kind of like the raisins and

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grapes and dogs, is that it doesn't affect every dog.

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In fact, doesn't affect most of our dogs, but when

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you have a dog that is affected, it's very serious.

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So the same thing with the neomycin, one of the

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triple antibiotic it's polymix and basitracin and neomycin. Some cats,

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a small amount can actually have an anaphylactic reaction to

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you knowomycin if they eat it. So what you know,

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you put something in a cat's eye, all right, any

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of you who have medicated a cat, No, what are

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they gonna do. They're gonna take their paw, They're gonna

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rub it on the eye, and then they of course

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of course gonna lick their paw. So if you have

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one of those cats, and we don't know which ones

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they are, that might be one with that reaction, then

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that is very dangerous. So we recommend some of the

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antibacterial alphamic ointments for cats or just things without neomycin.

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So steroids, antibiotics antivirals depending on what the case may be.

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And one of the things we're gonna get to now,

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we're gonna talk about the cornea, but it often goes

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hand in hand with the conjunc taiva, and that is

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that even though one of the best active ingredients to

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combat the inflammation and sometimes the irritation are medications with corticosteroids,

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and by the way, cats tolerates steroids extremely well. The

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problem is that steroids are contraindicated if there is any

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kind of corneal lesion, whether it's a corneal scratch, a

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corneal ulcer, So you sort of have to walk and

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your veterinarian doesn't have to walk that fine line between

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we have to be careful not to use steroids because

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of a corneal issue, but we really want to use

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steroids to decrease inflammation, pain, et cetera on the other side.

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So sometimes we have to first treat the ulcer or

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the erosion. When that is healed cured, if we still

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at this point have some sort of conjunctivitis or carotitis

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going on, then it's okay to use the steroids after that.

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So that takes us to the corneal ulso the cornial erosion.

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You know, one of the things if I gave you

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a quiz and asked you what type and I mean

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body type of dog or cat do you think is

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most likely to get a corneal ulcer or cornial erosion.

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All right, that's what I want you to think about.

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We're gonna talk about treating them, and then I'm gonna

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have somebody call in. Not only do you maybe have

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the answer for me, but maybe you'll get a free

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pro sense product and a free contoy. That's not bad.

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So we again, there are a number of different depths. Actually, interestingly,

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the corny itself has seven layers, and two of them

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are tierfilm and then five of tissue, and the depth

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of the ulcer or the erosion correlates with this its

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severity and seriousness. But interestingly, the dog or cat with

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the more superficial ulcer, though not as serious, are actually

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in more pain and discomfort. And the reason for that

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is the nerve endings that are most sensitive are in

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the outermost layers, So once those layers are completely punctured

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and go down deeper, they don't seem to be in

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as much pain. Yet the ultra is much more serious.

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So it's very important. And as many of you know,

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I listen, I like to do my own emergencies. I'm

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continuously talking to my clients that one of the areas

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where I don't mess around. I don't say, uh, you

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know what, what's he doing? Now, let's wait till morning

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is when it comes to eyes. Because if we have

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an eye issue that is not addressed timely, it can

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be very serious, so much so that the ramifications might

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even require major major surgery or sadly enough, in really

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bad cases of a misdiagnosis, nucleation losing an eye. So

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we don't mess around with eyes. So when someone calls

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in and I tell my staff, I tell my girls uprunt.

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Someone calls in and their dog is a squinting, excessive tearing,

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rubbing at the eye, it's not well. See doctor's book today.

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Can we see you tomorrow? No, it's come in now.

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So for any of you who are having these issues

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with your pets, your dog's, your cats, I want you

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to know that there is a certainly serious component. So

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we're here at a halfway point, which is a good time

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to break because I'm gonna leave that question out there.

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I want to know the body type, the type of dogs.

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Name me some breeds that are most likely to have

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corneal ulcer or erosion problems, and you could just call

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me at eight seven seven three eight five eight eight

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eight to two right after the break. Don't go away,

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will be back in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back right after these messages. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: You're here live with dot heor Jeff Werber here on

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pet Life Radio. And before the break, we asked a question,

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and that is we're talking about eyes and eye injuries

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like corneal ulcers and corneal abrasions and erosions. And I asked,

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what breed, breeds or body type do you think the

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most common presenters of these kind of issues. So I

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still want to hear from you and get the answer right,

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easy question, think about it and we will send you

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out a free pro sense and free KLNG toy. So anyway,

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as far as treatment, again, if there isn't all short

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of erosion, then we're going to use using an antibotic

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ointment of type. Sometimes we have to do what's called

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deepriding the ulcer, and that is because the body is

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trying to heal. And interestingly, you know people don't realize this.

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The cornea, the layers of the cornea are just epithelium.

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It's exactly like our skin. It's just the cells are

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so perfectly aligned and so thin that you could see through.

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But it's the same if you ever like have a peel,

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or you're sitting on the sun and then you start

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peeling your skin off and you can just get a

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little piece if you hold it up, it's pretty clear.

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So the corny is the same thing, same type of tissue.

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So it needs to heal. Sometimes we have to kind

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of roughen up the edges a little bit and in

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order to stimulate some blood float to the area. We

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get some good vascularization and that means the blood is

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coming in to help the healing process. Other times we

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might have to do your doctor might have to do

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what's called a punk tate keratotomy or a linear keratotomy,

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and that is we take a very sharp point d

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like it's just sometimes a very fine needle and actually

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make some slits or in a pattern or a grid

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or just little poke dots in the case of a

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punk tate, but if a grid or linear, we're gonna

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take lines. The whole idea there is the same thing.

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layer or two of cornea and kind of get them

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irritated again to bring in to stimulate the body's response

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to get some flow going. We also sometimes might you know,

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serum in our blood has healing capability, so sometimes it

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we'll do is we will take some blood, spin it down,

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sow off the cells, and keep the serum and have

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the owners drop some serum. It's their own pets serum,

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So there's no concern about rejection of graft or another

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animal serum and use that in the eye. That too,

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can help bring in some healing actors. Once we get

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the corneal ulcer or erosion healed, then we would if

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we need still need to eliminate some of the inflammation,

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then we'll go ahead and add on the steroid. So

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one last thing that's very important to treating any eye problem. Anything,

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whether it's the entropy on the lids, you know, whether

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it's the tistic is trickiasis, whether it's cornial, whether it's conjunctive,

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or whether it's cherry eye. If surgery or medication is

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being placed in the eye, it is imperative that your

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pet goes home with some type of restraint from rubbing

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at that eye. Whether it's Elizabethan collar, whether it's the

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tube type collar. Kong has a great one. Whatever it takes,

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we have to prevent the pet from rubbing or scratching

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at that eye. That is critical, So real quick, I

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want to go ahead and read you an email that

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we got from one of our listeners. Dear doctor Jeff,

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we have a two year old rescue pitbull who's only

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eating human food for the past two years. She's eating

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regular high protein dogs or less for the past two months,

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but her teeth are in bad shape. They are not

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chipped or cracked, but it is obvious that she has

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not eating the right food. Now she's getting healthier by

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our high protein dog food as her coat and overall

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health is excellent. I wish to start to clean her teeth.

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She will allow me to put my fingers in her mouth,

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but not dog toothbrush or even with dog toothpaste. Can

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I use a soft towel or what can I do

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to cleaner cheeth besides taking her to the vet to

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clean professionally. She has tolerated me touching her gums and

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teeth with NOL. So this comes from Sharon, and I

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already answered Sharon basically as an answered Charin. First of all,

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congratulations for adopting a dog, a pitbull. Unfortunately, our shelters

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across the country are loaded with them and sadly, sadly,

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way too many get put to sleep. They really are

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wonderful dogs. They are great with kids. The only thing

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I caution is, I'm sure any of you know they

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definitely have a tendency to want to fight other dogs,

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but most of them are really good with people, and

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if they're not, that is in the training. Because the

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breed was never intended to be mean to people. It

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was only a fighting breed. So anyway I recommend it

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to Sharon is this. First of all, the fact that

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she lets the teeth and gums being rubbed is great.

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I told her to take some really good tasty paste.

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You can get poultry flavored, you can get diet fish flavor,

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beef flavor, dentifirst toothpaste, it's non stut to gets made

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for dogs. And you can literally lift the lip, put

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like one or two rubs in the gums and then stop.

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That's it. That's it. One or two rubs, takes two seconds,

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and they go, oh my god, you're such a good girl,

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and give her her favorite treat. Day one, lift the lip,

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same paste, et cetera. And now you're gonna go maybe

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for four or five seconds, and then you say, oh

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my god, you're such a good girl, and you give

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her treats again, and the next day you might go

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ten seconds. The whole idea is every day a little

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bit more until you get to the point. First of all, now,

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what is she associating this process with she's associating with

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all the hugs, kisses, praise and the treat so within

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a very short amount of time they will actually look

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forward to it. Even if they don't love the process,

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they love the treats and the praise. So once you

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get to the point where you can go up and

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down and around the mouth, in the back and etc.

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Then you can actually slide. They have these little finger

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brushes that have either real toothbrush type bristle or just

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little like hard rubber bristles, and use that instead of

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just your finger and do the same thing. Go slow

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at first, and each time it's always associated with the hugs,

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the kisses and the dog's favorite treat, and she will

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allow in no time, she will allow having your teeth brush.

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Once you get to this point and she's used to

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the actual brush sensation, then most likely you can now

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convert to a real toothbrush for dogs, of course, but

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even if you don't, even if you stick with the fingerbrush,

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big deal. It's still fantastic now now one of the

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things else. So she was concerned about the staining and

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the plaque on the teeth. Once the plaque, which is

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more of like a film, hardens, and becomes what we

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call calculus or tartar. I don't care who you are,

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what you are, what you're using. Unless you are a

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human dental hygienists or dentist yourselves, and you have the

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proper equipment to come and use dental scaling equipment to

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peel crack that tartar off, you can't do it. You

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can brush between now and next year March. First, you

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will not get that plaque off. You might irritate the

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heck out of the gums, but you won't get that

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tartar off. So if you have, if the teeth have

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accumulated the calculus, the tartar, the hardened plaque, if you will,

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you need to have those clean professionally. Once you have

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the teeth nice and shiny and all that tartar is removed.

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Now that brushing which can remove the plaque the film

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the early stages, that's where it's going to be most beneficial.

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So make sure you consider that. Get your pets into

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the habit of having that done. So, Sharon, I want

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to thank you. Well, I'm going to be writing you

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back so we can get your address. We'll send you

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something out. So back to my question, I'm just checking here.

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Oh my gosh, nobody joined in the conversation, no emails,

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no phone call at eight seven seven three eight five

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eight to just think you're missed on a golden opportunity

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to get a free calng toy and a process. So anyway,

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the answer is this, and you think about it. Logically,

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dog's eyes are They're meant for hunting, That's why they are.

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The corneas are usually less sensitive, That's why they don't

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blink as much as we do, so they often keep

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their eyes open. So if you have a dog that

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is going through any kind of brush, passing by a

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piece of furniture, the leaves, a bit of a plant

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in a home, anything that might be sticking out, the

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dog with the normal size snout typically their nose picks

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it up first and then they can react. They can

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react by turning their head, they can react by blinking.

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So they typically I mean, I mean, let's put there

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say any dog, and any dog does can present with

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the corney also kernel erosion, but we see it much

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more frequently, I mean much more frequently in the breaky

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cephalic breeds. The breakycephalic breeds are those breeds that have

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the pushed in faces where everything is compressed between the

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tip of their nose and their eyes is almost the same.

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I mean it's flat, so you're looking at the Sheetso

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the losses, the pugs, the Boston Terriers, the French bulldogs,

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the English bulldogs. These are the dogs because of the

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Persian cats. Oh my god. We see this a lot

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in Persians because they there by the time they get

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the signal to their brain to react to that which

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their whiskers or their nose sensed or touched right, and

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they can try to protect their eyes from blinking, it's

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too late. It hit the eyes too, and so we

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see this and also they have to If you look

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at these dogs' eyes, they are we call them bug eyes.

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They are so prominent. They're just sitting out there waiting,

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waiting to be irritated. And we see that again. And

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it's also why it's one of the breeds of dogs

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that will often suffer from what we call a prop

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toast eye, and that's either from injury from severe straining pushing.

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They can actually pop their eye out of the socket.

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It's gross. It looks terrible. People panic if we get

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to it quickly, which is why you don't mess around

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the eye. We can pop it back in saw the

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eyelid shot for a couple of weeks and they are

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totally fine after that. So anyway, I want to thank

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you for joining me here on pet Life Radios Ask

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the Vets. Sadly, only Sharon who called, who sent me

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an email, is going to get the free products that

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we're going to set out to her. And I want

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to thank you once again, Kong and pro Sense. I

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want to thank you for being here, joining me here

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on Ask the Vets with Doctor Jeff on pet Life Radio.

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And we will see you here next week. I'm a

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great here.

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