WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:06.280 It is The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.919 Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful. 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:24.879 Friday, The Jesse Kelly Show. 4 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:25.879 Another hour of. 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:30.359 The Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday. Coming up, 6 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.320 we have Brandon Wikert a half hour from now. Why 7 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:36.640 is the Navy and Marines? What exactly are they planning 8 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.399 on doing in Venezuela and why. We'll talk to him 9 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.679 about that about a half hour from now. I'm actually 10 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:46.320 going to in a way defend Trump on something he 11 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:47.960 said today that is making a lot of people on 12 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.200 the right angry about bringing in Chinese students, lots of them. 13 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:54.880 But you know what time it is, Oh, that's political. 14 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.359 We don't have time for that. Now. It's the start 15 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:59.719 of the second hour on Monday. So it's Metal of 16 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:04.000 Honor Monday time. Same thing every Monday. At this time, 17 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.760 we take a medal of honor citation, we read it. 18 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:12.159 We remember the men, we honor them, we honor their deeds. 19 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:16.439 We have to tell our children about these men and 20 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:20.319 the things they did. And remember we accept suggestions. If 21 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:23.480 you have ones you like, ones you're related to. Once 22 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.920 you just enjoy whatever. It's not just love hating death 23 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:31.200 threats you can send into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 24 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:34.079 So we're gonna do too tonight. This guy says Jesse, 25 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:36.959 I went to Washington with my daughter on her fifth 26 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.200 grade trip. That's so cool. You got to go. I 27 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.840 didn't get to go. I wanted to go when my 28 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.439 kids went. Chris, you're never gonna pay for it when 29 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.560 your daughter gets told enough anyway, we stopped by the 30 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.920 National Vietnam War Memorial and searched for a specific name, 31 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:55.000 First Lieutenant Douglas B. Fournette. He was from my hometown 32 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.480 of Lake Charles, Louisiana. Before you get to the two 33 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.879 to ten loop, bridge will see a dedicated marker to 34 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:05.439 this warrior. He came from a hard nosed family. His 35 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.680 brother Rocky was such a fierce defensive back of mcnee's 36 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.039 State that the coach made him wear a black helmet 37 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.000 so the offense knew where he was on the field 38 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.240 at all times. Love what you're doing. Every Monday, I 39 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.919 take my daughter Mollie to a Monday night activity and 40 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.039 we get to bond together listening to medal of Honor Monday. Gosh, 41 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:26.240 that's freaking cool. Love your brother be well. So without 42 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:30.199 further ado born and as you heard in Lake Charles, Louisiana, 43 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.919 Vietnam veteran Douglas Bernard Fournette, Let's find out what he. 44 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:40.400 Did, hey, honoring those he went above and beyond, it's 45 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.080 Medal of Honor Monday. 46 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.479 For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk 47 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:54.680 of his life, above and beyond the call of duty. 48 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.719 First Lieutenant Fournette, Infantry distinguished himself in action while serving 49 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.879 as rifle platoon leader of second Platoon, Company B. While 50 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:08.520 advancing uphill against fortified enemy positions in the a Shah Valley, 51 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.479 the platoon encountered intense sniper fire, making movement very difficult. 52 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.479 The right flank man suddenly discovered an enemy Claymore mind 53 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.840 covering the route of advance and shouted a warning to 54 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.879 his comrades. Realizing that the enemy would also be alerted, 55 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.439 First Lieutenant Fournette ordered his men to take cover and 56 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:32.639 ran uphilled toward the mind, drawing a sheath knife as 57 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.919 he approached it. With complete disregard for his safety and 58 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.719 realizing the imminent danger to members of his command, he 59 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.879 used his body as a shield in front of the mind. 60 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.280 As he attempted to slash the control wires leading from 61 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.319 the enemy positions to the mine. As he reached for 62 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:54.800 the wire, the mine was detonated, killing him instantly. Five 63 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.840 men nearest the mine were slightly wounded, but First Lieutenant 64 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.719 Fournette's heroic and unselfish act spared his men of serious 65 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:07.879 injury or death. His gallantry and willing self sacrifice are 66 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:11.159 in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and 67 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:15.960 reflect great credit upon him himself, his unit in the 68 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:21.360 US Army. And just to let you know, in case 69 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:26.959 you don't, a claymor mind is a terrifying thing. They are. 70 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.480 They're full of ball bearings. I have a little bit 71 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:38.759 of experience with them. And look when we trained with them, 72 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.360 they were intimidating because you know what they do when 73 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.720 they go off. You know what they do. To throw 74 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.800 yourself in front of one that you know the enemy 75 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:52.000 holds the clacker, you set them off for the clacker, 76 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.079 the enemy holds the controls and you throw yourself in 77 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:03.240 front of one is awesome, man, awesome. Douglas Bernard Fournette. 78 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:07.839 Now for our second one. This one also came in. 79 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.759 It was a recommendation from a Marine Master Sergeant who 80 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.040 I'm not going to read his name. I don't want 81 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.600 to get him. I don't want to get him in trouble. Jesse, 82 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.399 if you've not already used this warrior for Medal of 83 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.160 Honor Monday, please do so, PFC. And you're gonna have 84 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:28.839 to bear with me. On the name Ca ho Ohannohanno, 85 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.560 CA ho Ohannohanno. That's just his last name, caho ohann Ohanno. 86 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.959 I'm assuming that's Hawaiian samowing something like that. My favorite 87 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.920 Medal of Honor recipient. This guy says, so he was 88 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.879 Oh yeah, look at that. Born nineteen thirty accredited to Hawaii, 89 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.079 is what they say. It was. So without further ado, also, Army, 90 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.480 let's do the second Medal of Honor citation for an 91 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.959 Anthony T. Ca ho Ohannohanno. And I'm sorry if I 92 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.879 screwed up the pronunciation on that, I'm stupid. 93 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:03.560 I do that, hey, honoring those who went above and 94 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.639 beyond its Medal of Honor Monday. 95 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:16.399 For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life, 96 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.360 above and beyond the call of duty. Private First Class 97 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:24.800 Anthony T. Caho Company H seventeenth Infantry Regiment, seventh Infantry 98 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:29.519 Division distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism and action against the 99 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.879 enemy in the vicinity of Trooper Ree, Korea, on the 100 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:38.439 first of September nineteenth fifty one. On that date, Private 101 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.000 first class ca Ho was in charge of a machine 102 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:45.720 gun squad supporting the defensive positioning of Company F when 103 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.759 a numerically superior enemy force launched a fierce attack. Because 104 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:54.319 of the enemy's overwhelming numbers, friendly troops were forced to 105 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.800 execute a limited withdrawal. As the men fell back, Private 106 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:01.720 first class ca Ho ordered his squad to take up 107 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.839 more defensible positions and provide covering fire for the withdrawing 108 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.800 friendly force. Although having been wounded in the soldier in 109 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.120 the soldier in the shoulder during the initial enemy assault, 110 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.800 Private first class Caho gathered a supply of grenades and 111 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.360 ammunition and returned to his original position to face the 112 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:25.240 enemy alone. As the hostile troops concentrated their strength against 113 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.839 his emplacement in an effort to overrun it, Private first 114 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:33.839 class ca Ho fought fiercely and courageously, delivering deadly accurate 115 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.240 fire into the ranks of the on rushing enemy. When 116 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:41.000 his ammunition was depleted, he engaged the enemy in hand 117 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.160 to hand combat until he was killed. Private first Class 118 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:51.079 caho Ohanohanno's heroic stand so inspired his comrades they launched 119 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.199 a counter attack that completely repulsed the enemy. Upon reaching 120 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:00.480 Private first Class caho Ohanohanno's emplacement, friendly troops to governed 121 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.360 eleven enemy soldiers lying dead in front of the emplacement 122 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.000 and two inside it killed in hand to hand combat. 123 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:14.040 Private first Class coho Ohanohanno's extraordinary heroism and selfless devotion 124 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.800 to duty are in keeping with the finest traditions of 125 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.920 military service and reflect great credit upon himself the seventh 126 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:26.040 Infantry Division in the United States Army, and we will 127 00:08:26.040 --> 00:09:10.919 play taps in honor of both of these gentlemen. To now, 128 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.840 it's amazing how often those Korean War ones go that way, 129 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:33.399 of the numerically superior enemy force overrunning the lines. I've 130 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.039 read more Korean books than I can count, and that's 131 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.279 just the Korean War. You take a hilltop, the Chinese, 132 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.000 because they were mostly Chinese, would mass up more bodies 133 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.879 than you could kill, and they would send in waves 134 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.120 of them and they would just overrun you. And then 135 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.399 you'd have to counterattack and take it back. And then 136 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:57.600 they would counterattack and take it back. And there were 137 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.120 a lot of very brave men who did a lot 138 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.840 of very brave things in Korea. Like I've told you before, 139 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.759 it is called the Forgotten War, and it really truly 140 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:09.039 is the Forgotten War. Look into Korea, Look into Korea. 141 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.559 If this stuff interests you, fascinates you, you want to learn 142 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:15.639 about the fighting they did over there, the heroes who 143 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:17.320 fought their way through that place and then had to 144 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:19.840 fight their way out of it. Go pick up a 145 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.679 book or watch a documentary. I think there's a good 146 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.480 one on Amazon if I remember it called Chosen. It's 147 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.039 on Amazon or Netflix, but it's called Chosen about the 148 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:32.679 Chosen Reservoir. Highly recommend it. Uh, I don't remember if 149 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.960 it's a kid friendly or not. It could be. Chris said, 150 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.440 probably not, No, it could be. I don't remember. So kids, 151 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.840 ask mom and dad. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. 152 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.679 A wonderful, wonderful Monday. Just did Medal of Honor Monday. 153 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.519 Remember we have Brandon Wiker coming up ten minutes from now, 154 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.639 gonna get us educated on what exactly is happening in Venezuela. 155 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.919 So Trump said something earlier today that has the right 156 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:05.799 apoplectic and upset. And don't get me wrong, I'm I'm 157 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:10.039 upset two but I understand. You ever have those situations 158 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:11.960 in your life where you're mad but you get it, 159 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.080 You're mad, but you get it. He said this, it's a. 160 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:17.240 Very important relationship. 161 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:18.799 We're going to get along good with China. 162 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.080 I use so many stories about we're not going to 163 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.399 allow their students. 164 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:23.840 So now we're going to allow their students to come in. 165 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.240 We're gonna allow it's very important, six hundred thousand students. 166 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:28.200 It's very important. 167 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.279 So we're gonna get along with it. We're going to 168 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:36.519 allow six hundred thousand Chinese students into our country. Chinese 169 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.840 spies is what they are. It's not it's not exactly 170 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.360 a guess. It's not an unknown thing. China sends its 171 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.720 young people into our country, into the university system to 172 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.799 not just spy, steal. They are the biggest corporate thieves 173 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:57.840 on the planet. They steal technology, they steal proper intellectual property, 174 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.480 they take it back to China, they duplicate it, and 175 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.519 it's really really bad. And everyone's mad at Trump today 176 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.519 about that. We're going to allow six hundred thousand. Then 177 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:10.279 we're going to allow six hundred thousand in. I'm mad too, 178 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:14.080 So let me clarify. That's that's really bad. It's really bad. However, 179 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:21.600 remember when Trump was talking with Zelenski on the first 180 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:23.519 meeting where it blew up in the White House, where 181 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:27.159 Zolensky lost his mind starts freaking out. Remember what Trump 182 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:31.159 told him, you don't have the cards, You don't have 183 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.120 the cards, and Zolensky had to be like a stupid, 184 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:37.639 angry little troll, I'm not playing cards. That Everyone knows 185 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.559 what Trump was saying, including Zelensky. What does he mean 186 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:44.759 by that? You don't have leverage. Ukraine doesn't have any leverage. 187 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.399 You can't militarily defeat the Russians. You're not in possession 188 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.879 of the territory the Russians have taken. You don't have leverage. 189 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:55.559 You can want it, you can scream that's wrong, but 190 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.080 you don't have it. All right, So let's have a 191 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:03.000 frank talk about where we are as a country right now. 192 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:10.720 China produces ninety percent of the pharmaceuticals that people take 193 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:15.080 in the United States of America. Nine zero, not nine, 194 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:24.120 not nineteen ninety. That's a tiny, tiny example of how 195 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:29.600 much we have to have cooperation with China. And so, 196 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.840 don't get me wrong, they have to have cooperation with 197 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.720 us too. But it really comes down to this. If 198 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:40.080 I have to make it extremely simple, China makes the stuff, 199 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.159 we buy the stuff. That's the terrible relationship we are in. 200 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.159 You can hate that and I hate it. You can 201 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.879 say we have to change that, and we do. But 202 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.320 you know, wish in one hand, grap in the other, 203 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.919 and see which one fills up first. As my dad 204 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.639 used to tell me all the time, you can't wish 205 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:06.360 away where we currently are. We we don't have all 206 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:10.879 the cards. We have some cards. We have cards, There's 207 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.879 no question about it. We have some cards. Look, I'm 208 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.639 gonna talk to Brandon Wykert next. I'm gonna flat out 209 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:21.879 ask him how much of the world's rare earth minerals 210 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.000 does China have control over versus how much we have 211 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:29.840 control over. Imagine, imagine if China owns sixty seventy percent 212 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.039 of the rare earth minerals and I think it's at 213 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.399 least that high'ma I'm gonna confirm it with Brandon Wickert 214 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.000 in a moment. What if it's seventy percent. Now keep 215 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.679 in mind, when we say rare earth minerals, what does 216 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:43.679 that even mean? Like everyone loves that term, Now, what 217 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.679 does that even mean? We are talking about the things 218 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.799 you have to pull out of the ground to make 219 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.399 the modern things. Your country, your economy, and most definitely 220 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.759 your military need to keep running. You want your military 221 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.960 to be as modern as the next. You have to 222 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.960 have that in the ground. What if China owns it 223 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.200 all and I know they own a big chunk of it, 224 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:10.720 I'm not happy. I'm not happy that this is where 225 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.960 we are, and I'm certainly not happy that we're allowing 226 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.679 six hundred thousand Chinese spies into the country. I think 227 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.200 that's suicidal and insane. I don't like it either, but 228 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.759 I understand it. I understand we don't hold all the 229 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.519 cards here. You know, it's a not a huge story, 230 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.840 but a little bit of a story that Canada, Canada 231 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.480 is backing off. You know, Canada was talking really tough, 232 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:38.440 we were talking about tariffs, and Canada started flexing. They 233 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.240 have a bunch of comedies up there in charge. Now, 234 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:42.879 poor Canadians to it sucks for them. Canada bends the 235 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.559 need at Trump's will and drops the tariffs on US goods. 236 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.600 That's from today. Why, well, we have all the cards. 237 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.600 If you're Canada, you don't have that leverage. If we 238 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:57.600 pull the trigger on you when it comes to tariffs, 239 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.399 you're finished. You can hurt us a little so we 240 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.000 can smash Canada's budget. We can smash their budget, we 241 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.960 can smash their economy into a fine powder. So they 242 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.559 had no choice. It's all about leverage. We are not 243 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:16.200 in that same situation with China. Yes, China needs us 244 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:18.639 to buy a lot of stuff, there's no question they 245 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.440 need us too. But we are in We're in a 246 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:27.360 Mexican standoff right now. Okay, we can't afford to smash 247 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:34.639 them because they can smash us back guaranteed, guaranteed. This 248 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:38.799 was negotiated Jiji and Ping. Okay, you want this. You 249 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.639 don't want that. You're taking six hundred thousand spies students. Sorry, 250 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.480 I misspoke. Sucks. I hate it. That's the way it is. 251 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:51.759 It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday. 252 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:54.480 The work week is just beginning. I can tell how 253 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:58.399 happy Chris is about it. Anyway, I'm happy because Brandon 254 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:00.919 Wikert's about to educate us on some things, as he 255 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:05.519 often does, joining me now, wonderful author National security man 256 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.680 Brandon Wikert, Hey, Brandon, why is the Navy going down 257 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.519 to Venezuela? 258 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.640 Well, thanks for having me. As always, the Navy has 259 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:19.759 decided to flex some muscles in the face of Nicholas Maduro. 260 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:26.440 Ostensibly it's to help the Trump administration conduct its anti 261 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.960 drug cartel operations, but I suspect that it is much 262 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:35.160 more than that. I believe that the Trump administration is 263 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:39.799 attempting to conduct some form of regime change in Caracas 264 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:41.960 by ousting Nicholas Maduro. 265 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.599 Oh well, that always goes well, Okay, let's rewind quite 266 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.920 a bit, because I realize everybody comes at the news 267 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:55.839 from different levels of understanding Venezuela. How did they get 268 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.440 to where they got? Now, Maduro, what's the deal with them? 269 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.759 Pretend like I don't know, squad, what's going on there? 270 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.920 Well, you know, forty years ago, Venezuela was one of 271 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:09.759 the wealthiest countries in the world. It is one of 272 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:14.400 the great oil producers. And then in the nineties and 273 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:19.279 early two thousands they went through a political revolution led 274 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:23.440 by Hugo Chaves, who was a colonel in the Venezuelan army. 275 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.920 He was a socialist and he overthrew the government and 276 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:32.400 installed a radical socialist regime with himself as the leader. 277 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.759 And ever since the two thousands it has been run 278 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.119 by either Hugo Chaves, who died in twenty thirteen, and 279 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.920 then after that it was his right hand man, Nicholas Maduro, 280 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:48.559 who took over. They have funded drug cartel operations. They're 281 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.279 a narco terrorist regime. They have funded human trafficking. They 282 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.759 have sent Trende Aragua, which is a paramilitary force, into 283 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:01.559 the United States through our broken border. And there may 284 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:05.960 or may not be some evidence that their company, run 285 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:10.079 by Venezuelan national Smart Mattic, may be involved in the 286 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:14.000 Philippines and other countries in manipulating the votes. It's an 287 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.480 election counting machine software and in fact the CEO is 288 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.039 currently indicted I believe, in a Miami court. So there's 289 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.720 a lot of problems with Venezuela. We've had going back 290 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.400 several decades. Every president has talked about how much of 291 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.160 a problem it is. But because it's an oil producer, 292 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:35.039 we are in a bind. We need to have business 293 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:39.079 relations with Venezuela. But the regime as it stands hates 294 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.200 the United States. 295 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:45.440 Okay, So we are currently purchasing oil from Venezuela. 296 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.720 So there was a special carve out that was allowed 297 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:53.519 after Shavas took over, the only US company that was 298 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:58.000 allowed to directly drove for oil consistently in Venezuela with Chevron. 299 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.960 This became a fight about three or four months ago 300 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:04.559 in the Trump administration. You had people like Rich Grenell, 301 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:09.759 you know, Rick Cornell, You had people like him versus 302 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:13.880 Marco Rubio. Rick Cornell was saying, hey, President Trump, renew 303 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.799 the licenses. It's easy, quick access to oil. All we 304 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:19.640 have to do is pay the Venezuelan's off and they'll 305 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:21.319 look the other way while we mine for it. We 306 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.640 drove for it, and Marco Rubio was saying, hey, that 307 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:29.440 money is directly feeding these organizations in Venezuela that are 308 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:36.240 sending drugs, human traffickers, illicit arms, trendy iragua into the 309 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.119 United States through are broken southwestern border. We got to 310 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.839 cut him off, so there was a temporary cutoff about 311 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.240 two months ago. It was a big fight. Trump sided 312 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.720 with Rubio, and many people, myself included, believe this was 313 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.720 part of a larger move to slowly build up a 314 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:55.920 regime change operation. Don't forget Also Venezuela's regime has allowed 315 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:59.960 the Chinese, the Russians, and even Iran into our hemice 316 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.960 fear for the last twenty years. And also Venezuela. If 317 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.720 you deal with Venezuela, you take care of that regime, 318 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.039 then Trump has a clearer shot at taking the Panama 319 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.160 Canal zone, which is something that he has wanted to do. 320 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.559 Venezuela is a complicating factor in that mission as it's 321 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.759 currently run. So that's the logic. Now. I don't know 322 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.079 if that's what we should be doing, but that is 323 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.440 the logic behind I think what Trump is doing. 324 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.119 Okay, Actually we'll get to the Panama Canal thing in 325 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:35.079 a few moments. Can you elaborate more on Venezuela and 326 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:38.119 being a narco terrorist stake because they're never brought up 327 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:40.920 when it comes to cartels. People obviously know about Colombia 328 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.440 and they dang sure to know about Mexico. What's Venezuela's 329 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:46.599 vested interest in the YEO. 330 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:51.880 So Venezuela has a state owned cartel. Members of the 331 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.640 Venezuelan Parliament, the current head of the Venezuelan Parliament, the 332 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:04.680 Vice President, probably Maduro himself, several key Venezuelan generals and 333 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:10.920 intelligence leaders of the Venezuelan intelligence operation. They all run, 334 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:16.400 excuse me, they all run Cartel of the Suns. It's 335 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:19.799 one of the largest cartels in the world, and it 336 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.640 is completely state owned and backed, so it is a 337 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.640 state owned cartel. This is very different from Colombian cartels. 338 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:32.279 It's even different from how Mexico's cartels operate. In Venezuela, 339 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:35.000 the regime and the cartel is one. And then of 340 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:38.119 course there's also Trende Aragua, which, as I said, it's 341 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.559 described as a prison gang in Venezuela that has these 342 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:46.119 sort of transnational ties. In fact, Trende Aragua is a 343 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:49.160 paramilitary force. I live in Florida. I deal a lot 344 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.079 with Venezuelan expats. All of them tell me TDA Trende 345 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:58.839 Aragua is a paramilitary force that Maduro deploys to go 346 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:03.480 after things like Thennezuelan political dissidents in America. So that's 347 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:06.480 what Venezuela is doing. And a lot of the Cartel 348 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.720 of the Suns actually does business and supports the Colombian cartels. 349 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.279 They do business and help out with certain Mexican cartels, 350 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.920 all as part of this feeder program to get their 351 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:20.359 product and the human traffic up into the broken southwestern 352 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:21.559 border with the United States. 353 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:27.200 Okay, now you mentioned China, you mentioned Russia. In what 354 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.880 way do they invite them into our hemisphere? 355 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.920 Well, the Russians through the Wagner Group, which is their big, 356 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.640 supposedly private military contracting group. It's actually an arm of 357 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.880 the Russian government though, and the Russian military staffs it 358 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:46.920 and Russian intelligence supports it. They have massive contracts with Caracas. 359 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.720 They provide a lot of the protection for Venezuela's leaders. 360 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:55.160 I suspect they provide protection and conduct operations on behalf 361 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.200 of both the Venezuelan government and the cartel of the Sons. 362 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:04.119 The Russians are allowed to base nuclear capable Blackjack bombers 363 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.519 in Venezuela. They have repeatedly landed them there over the 364 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.680 last decade. They're in fact talking about sending these Shahad 365 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.079 one thirty six Iranian made drones that the Russians use 366 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.559 in Ukraine. The Russians are talking about sending them over 367 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.960 to Venezuela to fight the Americans the Chinese. They have 368 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.079 these massive contracts for access to Venezuela's oil and rare 369 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.839 earth minerals, and obviously they like to stabilize America's leading 370 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.599 role in the Western hemisphere. It's also part of China's 371 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.240 control of the Panama Canal as well as their major 372 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.440 presence in the Caribbean Sea, which is basically now a 373 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.039 Chinese lake, and so Venezuela is in the middle of 374 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.240 all is the epicenter of all of this, inviting the 375 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.839 American enemies into our hemisphere to undermine us that regime. 376 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.599 Is Brandon, do you have I didn't even get to 377 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.559 the freaking Panama Canal or Venezuela's military capability. Do you 378 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.039 have time for one more segment with me? 379 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:03.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here. 380 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.039 Okay, we are going to come right back with Brandon 381 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.920 Wiker schooling us on Venezuela. Hang up, it is the 382 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.640 Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday. It's been a 383 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.039 Medal of Honor Monday. Maybe you can email the show 384 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.000 Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We still have Brandon 385 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.880 Wickert educating us on some things when it comes to Venezuela. 386 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.720 Apparently the Navy is heading down there, the Marines are 387 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.920 heading down there. Before we get to what's heading down there? 388 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.480 How are they militarily At some point in time, as 389 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.319 you said, they were one of the wealthiest countries in 390 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:39.319 the world. What kind of military are we dealing with here. 391 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:45.440 Well, it's pretty much a you know, conventional force wise, 392 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.200 it's not that impressive. I would argue even the hoofy 393 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.119 rebels of Yemen are probably more impressive with their anti 394 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.559 access area denial capabilities. The Venezuelans are late to the 395 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.160 party in terms of building up their own AI to 396 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.880 AD capacity. The Russians, like I said, are helping them 397 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.000 do that, but again it's late in the game. They 398 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:13.119 do have these maoist like militias that are you know, 399 00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.880 the Bolivar and the you know militias which are like 400 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.920 the people's militias. And Maduro is claiming he's mobilizing four 401 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.559