WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:04.839 Something's going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What? What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:29.559 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode. We got a 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:33.479 very very very special guest, but before we get to him, 6 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.039 we're gonna have to introduce all of the eight of them, 7 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:38.640 the rejects with us tonight before we get to Mark. 8 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:43.520 All right, so let's start with Lisa, cult reject, mad scientist. 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:44.119 What is going on? 10 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:48.159 Lisa, how's it going? Leccome very forward to this conversation, 11 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.759 very very huge fan of dramanic occultism, so I am 12 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.679 very excited to talk about it, and especially with their 13 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.159 guest Mark and everyone in the Occult Rejects. The thing 14 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.159 I want to plug is the cult Research inst dot org. 15 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.840 If you like to consume some of your content literally, 16 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.040 please check us out our cult research into dot org. 17 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.599 Awesome, thank you very much. And next we have Frida 18 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.799 Jena Ninja. What's going on? Frida? 19 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:16.560 What's up? 20 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:17.079 Cardinal? 21 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.040 So you can find me at wugong Reborn, where I 22 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.599 am Twitter notorious, slash YouTube notorious over six hundred thousand views. 23 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:31.040 Let me just say so on my famous wild out 24 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:38.000 clip obviously infamous. Uh, that's right, we don't worship husks 25 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:38.599 in this house. 26 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.879 Yeah, sorry, oh that's okay. 27 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:45.640 And so if you want to follow the show, you 28 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.120 can follow the Athreshold Saints ig and Twitter. And my 29 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:54.200 show is about uh, speculative serial experiments and speculative ontology. 30 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.439 Sorry about that. So yeah, you can just look for 31 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.200 me and uh, I've got lots coming up. And thank 32 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.200 you guys so much, thank you, thank you Lisa, thank 33 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.680 you to the whole or thank you markin of course. 34 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.280 Of course we got Julia cosmic Peach joining us. What 35 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:08.960 is going on? 36 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.280 What's up? I'm excited for this one. Thanks for having 37 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.639 me as usual cosmic Peach podcasts where I really listen 38 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.960 to podcasts, listen. 39 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.520 Thank you very much Julia. And next we got Ricardo. 40 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:25.560 What is going on? 41 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.879 Sir? How are you good? Evening? 42 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.560 Everyone, Thank you for having me once more here and 43 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:35.520 I'm looking forward to learn from Mac today. As for me, 44 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.240 I'm a multi disciplinary researcher. You can find me at 45 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.879 x at Ricardo Calvary one as it is in the screen, 46 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:45.120 and please check out the Institute for Natal Philosophy dot org, 47 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:49.840 where you can either check our magazine Pharaohs or just 48 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.960 see if you want to work with us in something. 49 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.360 Just fill in the professional positions and we'll get in 50 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.840 touch with you. So thank you for taking me. 51 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.080 Of course, of course, always love having you one. Ricardo. Hey, 52 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:05.960 we got Ethan Indigo. What is going on? 53 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:10.400 To honor to be here with everyone? This is gonna 54 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.879 be exciting. Ethan Indigo Smith on all the usual social 55 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:21.319 media article recently on Occult Research Institute and yeah, more 56 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:25.479 to come on the esoteric and esoteric. And again appreciate everyone. 57 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.800 Of course, always appreciate you coming on. And we got 58 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.840 the man himself. It's been a minute, finally got him on. 59 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.159 Time's worked out, align the stars aligned. We got the man, 60 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.280 Robbie Marks, the storyteller on tonight. What is going on, Robbie, Oh. 61 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.840 Just cranking, trying to get out. We're getting out the 62 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:43.520 door for the summer and like a week and a 63 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.800 half in a very busy but yeah, I'm our Marx. 64 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.560 I'm an artist illustrator and I've been researching for about 65 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.439 thirty five years. And if you want to check out 66 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.319 my art or my podcast, then mad a Mind cast 67 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.080 or follow me on any of the social media. You 68 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.599 can go to my links which is link tree at 69 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.719 r M A r X r Marx and that'll pull 70 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:07.400 up everything for you. 71 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.199 Thank you very much, Robby. And we got Jewels from 72 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.560 Great Pilled Podcast joining us tonight as well. What is up, Jewels. 73 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:16.480 I'm glad you got on as well. I know I've 74 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.319 been bugging you lately and we made this happen as well. 75 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.319 Oh you you're beauty. You muted it, Bud, Sorry you muted. 76 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:24.639 He's like fun. I gotta settle over. 77 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.199 Oh, thank you, Nick, I'm always muted. Thank you for 78 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.279 having me on again. I appreciate it. Man, it's good 79 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:36.360 to see you, Lisa, Ricardo, Ethan and of course Mark, 80 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:38.759 you know, shouts out Mark, what's up? 81 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:39.000 Mark? 82 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.319 It's good to meet Jen, Robert and Julia. So yeah, man, 83 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.439 uh looking forward to the conversation tonight. 84 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:49.560 And uh what one unfold? 85 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:51.839 As JJ would say, it's going to be a barn burner. 86 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.879 But uh yeah, you found me at Great Pilled Pod 87 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:01.279 on Twitter. I'm on Patreon, rumble go there if you 88 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.240 really want to find me, if you really want to 89 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.399 find me, yeah, go there. 90 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.399 Is it? Yeah all right, yeah, thank you very much. Jules. 91 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.439 Oh not about five minutes in the guests, I already 92 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:17.959 forgot what the topic is. At this point. Uh, we 93 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.920 got the one and only Mark from my family thinks 94 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.959 it's crazy, joining us tonight to talk about dramatic occultism. 95 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.639 What is going on? Mark? Please let everybody know who 96 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.680 doesn't know who you are, what is up with you? 97 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.199 Where they can find all your amazing work? 98 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:35.480 Please? Oh wow, thank you. You really pulled out all 99 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:38.680 the stops for me here tonight, and I appreciate it 100 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.800 well a long time coming here on h on the 101 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.199 occult rejects. Sorry if I start talking like Trump. I 102 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:52.279 was hanging out with my Fox News watching Grandparents today. 103 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.959 But anyways, my family thinks I'm crazy. That's the name 104 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.680 of my podcast and it's a true statement. So if 105 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:04.000 you're obsessed with weird, strange stuff, your family probably thinks 106 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:08.360 you're crazy too. So listen to my podcast and pick 107 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.879 up a few tips. Because I've been dealing with it 108 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:15.959 since I first was able to utter a thoughtful sentence, 109 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:20.519 so always always getting questions from people, why, why are 110 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.600 you looking into that? What? And then sure enough it 111 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:29.240 actually paid off fifteen years later. So here we are 112 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.680 talking about a topic that sort of came out of 113 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:36.480 the blue for me and the grand scheme of things. 114 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:42.240 But now has somewhat become an obsession in some ways. 115 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.079 Very obsessed with and Nazis and all that shit. 116 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:50.160 So I get it right, Yeah, it's it's it's something 117 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:56.000 that affects the entirety of Western civilization posts a certain 118 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.800 time period that we'll get into. So yeah, it's it's 119 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.480 big implications, and it could be a little bit of 120 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.800 my own bias. You know, when you start holding a hammer, 121 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:11.199 everything becomes a nail, that kind of logic. But there's 122 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.560 there's a lot of there's a lot of interesting stuff 123 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.959 that I hope we can get into tonight. So yeah, 124 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.720 I can kick it off now, or I can pass 125 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.279 it on to someone else and we can ask questions. 126 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:28.879 But I mean, essentially, the phrase Germanic occultism is like 127 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.160 the phrase American fast food. 128 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:33.279 Okay, that's a good way to put it. 129 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:39.000 Actually, Yeah, that's that's that's kind of like my what 130 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.199 do you call it in college? Your thesis statement? Right, So, 131 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:46.600 as you'll see today, Germany has played a big role 132 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:56.160 in this sort of strange part of culture. So where 133 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.839 should we start. I'll take this silence and pause to 134 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:04.920 light this up for me. It started in New Haven, Connecticut, 135 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:09.319 where one way or another. I started looking into Scull 136 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:15.040 and Bones, the fraternity at Yale, and the pervading rumor, 137 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:24.000 although it's not particularly substantiated, but there's enough for me 138 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.319 to feel confident. But the rumor is that scull and 139 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:32.919 Bones is the second chapter of a German order, the 140 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.120 Order of Skull and Bones. And somewhere in the Scull 141 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.679 and Bones tomb at Yale University, I believe, over the 142 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:47.159 fireplace on the second floor, there's a painting or a picture, 143 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:52.200 maybe an old time picture of a skull and some 144 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.519 other things on a table, something like this, and the 145 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.519 phrase in German that says, you know, we were beggars, 146 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.279 we were kings, we were gods, we were fools, but 147 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.679 in the end we're all the same, right, something to 148 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:14.440 that effect. Basically death the great equalizer. So as I 149 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.279 studied Skull and Bones and looked into you know what 150 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.840 is this all about? You know, why does Yale University 151 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:27.320 have a strange contingency of very wealthy and powerful and 152 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:33.960 connected and wealthy like megal wealthy people and they're all 153 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.799 going through this one small group that only takes fifteen 154 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:43.559 people per senior class. So here we are German occultism. 155 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:48.200 Because if Scull and Bones is the second chapter of 156 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.519 something that started in Germany, well what's going on in Germany? 157 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:51.879 Right? 158 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.200 So we can save skull and Bones and all that 159 00:09:55.240 --> 00:10:00.559 fascinating stuff for another conversation. But when I I looked 160 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:04.960 into you know, what is Germany and what is German occultism, 161 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.960 it was like you know that meme where Charlie has 162 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.120 like all this stuff on the wall with the lines 163 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:16.039 and it's going crazy. But if like a dump truck 164 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.120 of papers came through the door at the same time, like, 165 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:24.480 there's a lot. And that's mainly because Germany it's younger 166 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.240 as a country than America is, and they didn't exist 167 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:35.080 when America was formed. They were city states and small kingdoms, 168 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:40.200 emperors and all sorts of political YadA YadA that got 169 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:50.840 basically consolidated consolidated up into and after, particularly World War One. 170 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.720 So again, like I said before we started the conversation, 171 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.000 we're not going to talk much about the Nazis because 172 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.399 there was so much to talk about. It pertains to 173 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:07.519 Germany just prior to excuse me, world War One, and again, 174 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:13.080 world War one was kind of what created Germany as 175 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.320 a country in many ways, but before that, it was 176 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:21.759 a hodgepodge of different types of government. One of the 177 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:27.600 most famous is the Bavaria, right, this little place called Bavaria, 178 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:33.240 which created the Bavarian Illuminati. And some people have said, well, 179 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.600 that must be the first chapter of the Order of 180 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.720 Skull and Bones. I don't think it's that simple. So 181 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.000 with Germany, again you have to understand it's only been 182 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.960 a country for a couple centuries, and on top of that, 183 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.320 there were all these pretty wealthy, powerful people in that area. 184 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.559 It's kind of at the center of Europe, the heart 185 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:03.600 of Europe. It's above this major obstacle in Europe, which 186 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.279 is the Alps. Right, so the Alps have kind of 187 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:15.279 left Western Europe, France, Spain, Italy, even this sort of 188 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:22.519 you know, stew in somewhat isolation at certain periods of history. 189 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:25.480 Obviously there's different waves of people that have come in, 190 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.080 but at a certain time in European history, a lot 191 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.480 of the people living in these regions around the Alps 192 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.960 where either Germanic peoples or had some connection to Germanic peoples. 193 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.399 And really, when you start looking at well, what is 194 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.080 you know, this occultism, where does it start? It starts 195 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:52.159 with runs Okay, now, Obviously, the Germans don't have single 196 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:57.279 claim on ruins. Ruins are found in multiple different European cultures. 197 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:01.159 In some way might argue that they're in Asian cultures 198 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.519 as well. But the concept of the run is very 199 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:13.279 similar to the Hebrew concept that essentially forms the Kabbala 200 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:18.919 with its numerical alphabet, and these same concepts are mirrored 201 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:26.039 in the runs in the sense that the notes are multidimensional, 202 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.240 They mean more than just the sound that you are 203 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:34.960 to utter when you read it. So in that way, 204 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.159 the language base of many of what we now think 205 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:45.200 of as the sort of Anglo Saxon, that kind of 206 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.159 the groups of people that kind of were molded and 207 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.799 shaped by what now we call English. Right Germany is 208 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.080 a precursor to English. There's a couple of other lost 209 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.759 languages that are in those sort of I don't know, 210 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.759 the tree going to it, YadA, YadA, YadA, anything that 211 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:10.840 you look at as far as pagan the occult in England, 212 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:17.200 it's all connected to this sort of singular Runic origin. 213 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:21.840 Now some people talk about this coming from the Tuata 214 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:25.759 day done in which you can interpret maybe as the 215 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:30.120 fallen angels. There's other people that go a step further 216 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.600 and have other interpretations of that. There's also the again 217 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.399 the melting pot of Germany. There's all these influences coming 218 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:43.559 in from the South, from the Middle East, from Egypt, right, 219 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.600 so a lot of mixing, and what you get is 220 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:51.919 this sort of you know, culture of people who have 221 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.960 a little bit of something from a lot of different places. 222 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:00.279 And over time what you get are these peop people 223 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:04.399 who are kind of like knowledge traders, right, Like they're 224 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:09.080 in the center, so as people are moving through their area, 225 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:15.480 that becomes sort of like the you know, key cultural 226 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.559 value of those areas is that they're accumulating the knowledge 227 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.879 of the people who are passing through to trade and 228 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.759 make their way from Europe to the Holy Land and 229 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:32.000 then back from the Holy Land to wherever they're from 230 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.279 in Europe. And you know, again this great exchange all 231 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:41.639 of the wisdom, knowledge, scientific innovation from the Arabic Renaissance, 232 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:46.480 which was going on during the Dark Ages, right, So 233 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:54.399 Europe was basically suppressed by the powers that be at 234 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.679 the time, and because of that, these innovations were not 235 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.360 shared with Europe on a large scale. And then when 236 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.039 these crusades started happening, it was like the floodgates opened. 237 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:10.440 Right now, all of this to say, and I'm going 238 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.120 to pause and let you guys ask questions, all of 239 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:20.639 this created what we now think of as the university system. Okay, 240 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:25.240 so this the origin of what we now think of 241 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.120 as a university is in this region that we now 242 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:32.720 call Germany. And it was these learned people who were 243 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:38.919 in some ways trying to create political power with this, right, 244 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:43.240 the Holy Roman Empire, which some people have said wasn't holy, 245 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.240 it wasn't Roman, and it wasn't really an empire. Right, 246 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:51.320 So again you have this kind of weird identity crisis 247 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.240 with and this is you know what people talk about 248 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.240 when the Nazi conversation comes up. You have this really 249 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:01.200 strange identity crisis too going on in these regions where 250 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.000 you know, they're not exactly German, Like what that means 251 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.319 to be German is kind of like a fabricated thing 252 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:10.680 in the same way that you know, what it means 253 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.599 to be American has been sort of created over the 254 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.559 and shaped and changed over the past. You know, four 255 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.279 hundred years of history in America, Well, in Germany it's 256 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.759 a smaller period of time and they have a much 257 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:28.039 larger history base to go off of. So what happens 258 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.720 again with the the Nazis, which I'm not so well 259 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.079 versed in, but what you'll learn when you when you 260 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.720 type in German occultism is you'll get hit with the 261 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:42.079 Nazis and you'll you'll learn that well, the Nazis they 262 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:46.119 wanted to you know, sway the people. So they built 263 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:52.559 up this mytho poetical propaganda. They created the idea of 264 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.279 the ubermenschh and they used the myths and legends that 265 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.759 were popular to the folk people, and they created this 266 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.039 idea of a superior German Man. And this was the 267 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:11.240 basis of the political fearvor that the furor you know, upheaved, right, 268 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.599 So in that sense, you know, there's a there's a 269 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.640 truth to that, but then there's also a denial of 270 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.359 of of the other factors when you just look at that. 271 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.480 So again, we don't need to spend really any time 272 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:30.960 talking about the Nazi stuff, but it does really have 273 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:35.359 its roots in this time period of Germany which we 274 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:40.079 now talk about as the age of the Teutonic Knights. Right, 275 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:44.400 So the Teutonic Knights were kind of like a more 276 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:50.000 organized version of the Knights Templar and they became in 277 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:57.799 essence the learned men who developed rose Crucianism. Okay, rose 278 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:06.119 Crucianism was very very secretive, very unreal in the sense 279 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.440 that people could kind of just pretend to be one, 280 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:13.480 and you know some people might you know, not be 281 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:16.599 one at all, but other people later in time were like, oh, yeah, 282 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.960 he was a Rosicrucian because they wanted to, you know, 283 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:25.480 boost themselves up by association. But either way, this culture 284 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:31.759 that was growing in that area became again the university system, 285 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:38.400 and then conversely, in England it became freemasonry. And this 286 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:43.799 is important because that gets into why World War One happened. 287 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:45.359 So we don't have to get to that right now 288 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.559 because I just said a lot. But essentially, what you 289 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:53.880 have in Germany is a secret culture of people who 290 00:19:54.440 --> 00:20:01.079 don't really feel maybe necessarily nationalistic because their nation is 291 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:06.680 so young, and maybe they have patriotic or patriarchal ties 292 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:10.160 that go deeper. And this is where the culture of 293 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:15.000 secret societies really flourishes, right because you have people who 294 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.200 are used to the old system. A new system is 295 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.079 imposed on them, and what do they do. They go 296 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:26.519 underground so they can maintain those older structures. Of power, 297 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:31.240 It connects to the Crusades, it goes back to the 298 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:35.359 time of Pagans again with the Ruins. And if you 299 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:39.160 look up like Teutonic paganism, you're going to find a 300 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:46.599 lot of neopagan stuff, which is arguably synthetic in the 301 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.720 sense that it's a synthesis of new stuff, like a 302 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.000 lot of the New Age is. But what you have 303 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:59.200 to realize is that this country, Germany, produced some of 304 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:05.920 the brilliant people that changed what became the twentieth century. 305 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:11.000 So again the German people and everything that happened with Hitler. 306 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.519 As a conspiracy theorist, we might argue that, well, obviously 307 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:20.279 they wanted to, you know, get some rains on this 308 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:25.359 machine before it, you know, ran amuck and became a 309 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:30.880 behemoth or these And again I'm not a Nazi sympathizer 310 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.599 in any way, but there's also the argument that, you know, 311 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.759 this was these people were not what they history tells 312 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.559 us they are, and they had an idealistic goal in mind, 313 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:47.440 and the whole issue with the Jews was not and 314 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.440 so on and so forth. Right, So there's a lot 315 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.880 of conspiracies there. Again I'm not an expert in any 316 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:57.319 of that. But I think it's important to understand the 317 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:03.079 prehistory of what became Nazi Germany in order to really 318 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.359 understand what we're going through today, because the terms Nazi 319 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.759 have not died, like, people still use that term in 320 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:17.640 a pejorative way, and you know, in a sense, it's 321 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.200 kind of ironic because the people who practice socialism will 322 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:26.839 then turn and call people who they consider republican or 323 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:33.240 fascist trump They'll call them not Nazis, right even though 324 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:36.839 their you know, ideology is very much in line with 325 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.920 the national socialism and YadA, YadA, YadA. So there's a 326 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.480 lot of strange stuff going on. And I think once 327 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:48.480 you start to understand the nineteenth century and the sort 328 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:53.359 of foreshadowing of World War One, it starts to make 329 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.279 sense why Germany at some point in time became a target, 330 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.559 right It was never a country of its own with 331 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:05.920 its own history, so it became a target, you know, 332 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.359 basically by smaller countries around it. People who were within 333 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:15.200 Germany who didn't feel again nationalistic towards this new nation 334 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.599 state idea, and in the age of imperialism, a lot 335 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:24.240 of people were like corporations fucked the government, like this 336 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:29.880 whole atheistic anarchist sentiment really came from that time period 337 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.640 when children were being forced to work in I mean 338 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:39.200 horrible conditions and that was the foundation that created their lives. 339 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:42.799 So the children who grew up working in those conditions, 340 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.599 what do you think their children ended up like? Right, 341 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:51.920 So it's a degradation along with the progress that's been made. Right, 342 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:57.319 It's sort of a bell curve kind of situation. But yeah, 343 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:04.440 I think the secret societies eventually just divorced themselves from 344 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.279 this idea of being attached to any nation, and it 345 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:10.720 was really convenient to do it in a place like 346 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:14.480 Germany where things were kind of young and people again 347 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.839 didn't feel this connection necessarily. All of that had to 348 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.519 be kind of stirred up by these propagandists that were 349 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.119 part of the Nazis. And again, now you try to 350 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.519 look up some of this German occultism stuff, and it's 351 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:31.960 very murky because you get a lot of stuff about 352 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:37.440 the Nazis. But Faust, this, I mean, this is like 353 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:43.000 kind of the benchmark and a lot of the stuff 354 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.240 he wrote. I might be mixing his name with one 355 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.119 of his plays. I always do that with Faust. It's 356 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:50.400 either the names play. 357 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:54.039 Yeah, it is the play. It's by Girta or Goth 358 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.799 gootg So I'm thinking. 359 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:01.920 So go, thank you, so Gota Gerta as the German, 360 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:05.640 as a as an untrained Englishman, I say Ghoth. But 361 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.799 he was very much a pillar. When I talk about 362 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.000 the influence that Germany had on the rest of the world, 363 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:21.400 and how they carried this idea of occultism into Western 364 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:26.240 civilization and it really became part and parcel to the 365 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.000 way we see the world now and how it's kind 366 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:34.680 of split up in rational materialism and super zealous religious 367 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:39.039 and everything in between. This is that Hegelian dialect that 368 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:44.119 you know, Hegel inspired so many with who were in 369 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:50.440 that area. George Hegel another interesting character who was at 370 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.559 some university in Germany. I think I said five or 371 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.440 ten minutes ago that I was going to pause so that. 372 00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:59.400 I was like shit, I was like, you said one 373 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:00.680 more thing. I think it's been like three. 374 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:06.000 I'm like, I have a lot of stuff that goes 375 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.279 along with that. As far as Prussia, when you look 376 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:13.039 at all the surrounding duchies Pomeranian, you had the Habsburg 377 00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.720 line that was basically working for the Roman Empire, and 378 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.799 they were coming in and slowly crushing out all these 379 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.079 small duchies and taking them over. And as far as 380 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.599 the university system, that's part of it, but you also 381 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.759 have the Prussian education system that was set up. There 382 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.559 was a school to military pipeline that basically John Dewey 383 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:38.319 and Man basically studied and brought back to the United 384 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.759 States and gave basically the United States the Prussian education system, 385 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:46.559 you know. So, but as far as all the vulk 386 00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:50.200 and going back into the traditional you know, thoughts of 387 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:54.599 the people that were in the rhine Land, you get 388 00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:57.759 into you know, like if you read James eu Frasier, 389 00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.759 he goes on and on and on about all of 390 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.200 these fertility rituals and like sending a bull between two 391 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.880 fires to get the demon out from in between their 392 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.440 home worns and just like what was I going to say? 393 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:11.359 The uh? 394 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.599 But yeah, it's it's oh the u. In one part 395 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.799 he talked about if there was a traveler passing by 396 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.960 in the Rhineland that they would basically capture him and 397 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:27.319 sacrifice him to the corn goat or the depending on 398 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.319 the region. They had these different types of animals they 399 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.839 would make out of the the crops of the field 400 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.039 and so it was a big thing in regard to 401 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.920