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and he unstop. A little college football segment, Gonna get

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into all the news and notes coming out of the

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college football world, maybe even talk some cougars in the pros,

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like Fred Warner being activated off the injured reserve. That

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are you kidding me? It's great that dude man that

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he is an alien, he is not human. He will

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be activated off injured reserve ahead of the Saturday's game

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in Seattle for the Divisional round, per head coach Kyle Shanahan.

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Pretty ridiculous, pretty crazy. Fred Warner suffered what seemingly was

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a season ending injury earlier in the year and now

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he's back. I was watching highlights of him run around

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of practice last night. But you gotta be Kidney, who

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is this man? We used to see that from like Taysom,

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He'd get injured season and he injured somehow get back

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and be bigger, batter, and better than ever. What a

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tremendous feed for Fredworder. But we're gonna delve into all

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Speaker 2: Hey, h Bradon what's caught your eye? During the college

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football transfer portal season? As we get the into the

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lead up of the College Football National Championship Game.

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Speaker 3: I would say, what's caught my eye? It is just that,

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I mean, we've retained everybody. What an awesome feat for

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of the guys are probably gonna say we might lose

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a couple, but Gennaro was the one coach that I

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him DC to keep him, like that might be worth it,

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just because he's so crucial to keeping guys here and

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he's been you know, that's just a hard position with

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the double minorities to recruit and the fact that he left.

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in that position. Obviously lost tab On Beasley, but like

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not our number one and two that I was nervous about,

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started pulling people out of the portal and Katu however,

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he say, the last thing is somebody I'm really pumped about.

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Speaker 2: So it's a great day to be a Cougar, There's

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no doubt about it. Is there an acquisition that you're

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most excited about? Is it the the hawsers up front?

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The three guys And by the way, Pockey Finale is

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one of the most ripped offensive lineman I've ever seen.

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an offensive lineman. Uh, that dude's stacked. That dude's not

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the soft, supple offensive lineman of the past, that dude's

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Speaker 3: So Tjon Caromo two point zero is what we're saying this.

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very few that had that try shep that definition. Pocky

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm I'm super excited about that. I really think, like, yes,

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we're gonna we're gonna notice and talk about the guys

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on the edges and you know some of the recruits

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that are giving me more of the skill positions. But

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obviously as a former offensive lineman and as something that

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like not saying that offensive line wasn't wasn't incredible, Like

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I thought they were great, but they weren't elite, and

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we needed elite to play against Texas Tech and win.

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on the offensive side of the coin.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, what give me your eval as a fan,

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as a Cougar sports insider, de Mario Warren the defensive

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. You know, he's got he's got

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a lot of experience, but he's also has a ton

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minorities here. He's familiar, familiar enough with the church with

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you know, him coaching the SUU for so long, even boys,

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but he's still a double minority, can still bring in

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: He on his Sports Nation interview, he said that Gennaro

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be a really big thing. And I think he's gonna

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bring in some recruiting ties that are you know, we

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get some some other guys, and I think we're hopefully

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we don't have a big drop off there.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you will, would your you know, what

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let me ask you this. I've been debating with with

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certain individuals about this. Do you want to Mario to

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coach your corners or your safeties? If you could bring

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in like a another guy to coach corners, like I

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former Virginia cornerback GA at New Mexico. Current Utah Tech

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cornerbacks coach Brian Mitchell currently at n C State. Former

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Preston Hadley, Rob Daniel, Eddie Hecker, Mike David. If you

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could bring back someone to coach corners and to Mario

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coaches safeties, would that be a route that you'd be

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interested in pursuing. Or even Brandon Bradley, You know, Brandon

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love those guys. I think if you're

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getting a coach just as good or better than Warren

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and you can that, it makes most sense to move

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them over. I think you go with that, But I

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don't think you. I think you go after whoever the

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best coach you can get. I think enough of the

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guys on the staff can move around that. I think.

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with Sports Station that originally it sounded like he was

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they're not proven. I think we're in a we're in

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an era now with with the resources that we can

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go and get a guy who's proven and then let

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those other guys still kind of grow up through those

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growing up through that route. I don't know that I

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want him to be the corners coach this year. And

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let's go get somebody who is qualified ready to go

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right this second. And if you have to move tomorrow

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for that, I think that's totally great. But I don't

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know that you have to if you played a safeties coach, Grady,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, let's say tomorrow's the quarterbacks goes passing

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a coordinator. What about Gavin Fawler? You know, I know

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Tanner Jacobson, would you go get him? He's a former

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Speaker 4: At that spot.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be mad with either one of those

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transfers and there are twelve on the out How many

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do you think BYU acquires this offseason? Last year was

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thirteen and you lost twenty seven. It looks like it's trending.

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could see some some other players that enter in after

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spring ball and we can add to the list. But uh,

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what do you make of it? What do you what

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that after spring, you know, if they kind of see

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the writing on the wall and move. I don't know

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if I could, if there's a number I can think

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up off my head. I think in terms of acquisitions,

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we're at seven. Now, I think they're definitely gonna try

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and get another two corners, at least, probably a running back,

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a couple of other positions. If there's other opportunities, I

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would guess we end up around end of twelve acquisitions

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by the end of it, and then maybe two or

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three more guys hit the portal after spring.

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Speaker 2: What's your priority right now? Is it a QB two,

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is it a CB three? Is it an RB two? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know, just your your your your your your, your wants,

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your need if you will. If you were director of

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player personnel at DYU, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say cornerback, corner back, So see me corner just

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because I feel like I feel like that's the spot

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that the top two with from Evin and Trey are there,

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but everybody else is just not proven yet. Like I

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think that they're good, they're gonna be fine, but just

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not proven. So I think those are the two spots.

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Running backs another one. But I am a bigger believer

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in MOA than I think the average fan is. But

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hasn't proven to be super I think this last year's

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injury was flu super fluky. But but I would say

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corner is the first position I'm nervous spout, and then

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's interesting, right, Like BYU hasn't taken any

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poral running backs over the last couple of seasons, But

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in the early I want to say, late two thousands

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like there we were picking up running backs. What gives?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting. I think it's I don't

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know what it is. I would say it's probably that

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the coaches believe more in.

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Speaker 2: The room.

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Speaker 3: We than maybe the fans do. I think they think

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that they've got that. I also think there's a chance

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that LJ. I mean, it would be really hard to

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get a guy right now. Back when we were getting

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those guys out of the portal, there was nobody in

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the room or the guys weren't proven in the room.

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So it's easy to come in and say, hey, you come,

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come to the team and prove yourself and you're gonna

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be the starter. That's a lot harder when you have

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LJ coming back. Even though it's the last two years.

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to be a depth piece, and if they're looking at that,

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they're saying, well, we've got depth pieces we need, you know,

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RB one A. And I don't think there's very many

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portal backs that are looking out there trying to come

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in and compete with LJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just said, you know the twenty twenty three career,

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you got Dion Smith, Aiden Robbins that were added in

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twenty twenty two. I want to say, I'm trying to

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think of who you picked up in twenty twenty two,

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but it was twenty two EnEx Nowahine Houston, Hamily, Chris Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris books him and then the year before that

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was a Supa And why can I think of the

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other guy that?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But yeah. So I do think it's mostly that

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those years there was more availability, and so people saw

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it out of the portal as like a hey, let's

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come in and compete immediately, where having a competians LJ

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the guys in the portal are going in for playing

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time and then to come and try and compete with

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with l J would just I don't know if that suits.

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Speaker 2: You got Devon Aka coming in from Lee High. I

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don't know if you've got an eyes on Devon Aka

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and whether or not he would be the guy, a

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dude that you'd you'd buy into to be an RB

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two RB three obviously, Shiny Moa and Jovesta de Mooney

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they're gonna be the mixed Preston Rex as well. What

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about the s UU running back? It's not too far

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away hop skipping to jump away. He's got great straight

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line speed and he was one of the most productive

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running backs in college football this year, albeit at the

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FCS level. I think he topped out at like twenty

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three point seven miles per hours as fast as speed.

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Joshua Die He's originally from Everett, Washington, runs a four

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to three nine and tallied one eight hundred and thirty

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one yards last season. And what was it? Uh? I

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mean he rushed for a lot of touchdowns as well.

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What do you make of that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely, I would love to have him

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come in. I think he's a he's a back that's

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a different skill set than l Jencione, A little more

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on the I think he's obviously way more proven than Jobasa,

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but they run similar. They're more of that you know,

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quick quick back. So I would love to get Die in.

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think to a sign that maybe we're at least trying there.

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it a lot run as it came out, but I

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haven't seen anything recently. But I think it would be

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It would be awesome to get die We'll.

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Speaker 2: See how it plays out. Once again, remind Cougar fans

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with the Cougars coming up next, Let's get Brian Keele's

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comments on the new hire at BYU, the defensive coordinator's

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former teammate Kelly Peping. I get his thoughts as commentary

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on on how he he likes this this particular higher

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and what is in store for BYU Cougar football with

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k Pop at the helm of the defense. This is

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Speaker 1: Tweet ESPN Sports Center updates.

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Speaker 5: Starting off in the rafters, BYU announced that on Valentine's Day,

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February fourteenth, against Colorado, they will be retiring the number

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thirty two to honor the career of Jim er Ferdett. Jimmer,

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of the twenty eleven Naysmith Player of the Year, will

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be the fifth Cougar with his number retire, joining the

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likes of Roland Minson, Kresmirchosich, Mel Hutchins and Danny Ayne

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Fordett still hold the record for most points in a

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single season with one thousand and sixty eight in an

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average of twenty nine point eight points per game. On

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the actual court, the Kubes were able to slide by

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six at halftime, AJ Debonsa turned his game up to

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an eleven took the horn Frog to town. Although he

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was feeling under the weather, finished with twenty five points

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and six rebounds of what many on social media are

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calling his flu game. Those twenty five points is a

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new conference play high for AJ, topping the twenty four

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he scored against Kansas State. The final score from that

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game was seventy six to seventy. Elsewhere around college basketball,

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number ten Vanderbilt felt the Texas yesterday, leaving room for

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BYU to slide back to the top ten with a

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win on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Going over to the NBA, Yegor.

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Speaker 5: Joeman continues to launch from deep, and he continues.

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Speaker 2: To make them.

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Speaker 5: He added another five to three pointers tonight, totaling seventeen

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points in the NETS loss to the Pelicans.

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Speaker 2: Jegor are hitting those multiple threes.

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out to the hotline. Welcome in former BYU great one

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of the best athletes to come through Brigham and I

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Let's welcome in Brian Keel, my former teammate. Be How

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the heck are you man?

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Speaker 4: Doing well?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Hey? What's what's keeping the Keel zone busy these days?

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Speaker 4: Give us an update, same same stuff, just the new year.

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Kids are getting older, Winter sports and in full effect

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basically keeps us busy every evening. So other than that,

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just enjoying the maybe the pinnafle of BYU sports, maybe

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maybe the best year in YU sports. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were part of a great era

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for basketball and football combined football. You can make an

473
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argument during that era, the four year stretch from like

474
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,640
you know, your five year five two thousand and five,

475
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,519
two thousand and nine, that's one of the winningest ares

476
00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:02,359
in bya football here history. You're part of that. The

477
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,119
best era, you know, for many was the eighties, late seventies,

478
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,039
early eighties with a national championship and you had you

479
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,799
had Danny Ainge and and great kid in the and

480
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,759
the crew leading them to an elite eight, so that

481
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,599
that that combo was pretty special. Do you think this era,

482
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:21,680
the Kilani era UH in the last you know, four

483
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,519
or five years, is UH is rival rivalrying the UH

484
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,480
the era that you played in and maybe even surpassing

485
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,000
UH the the best era of college athletics history at UYU.

486
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think UH this is gonna be a golden age.

487
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:43,640
And yeah, the eighties were absolutely amazing. Obviously it's hard

488
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,279
to beat a national championship, but I'm also you know,

489
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,720
I'm a realist, and I understand that the schedule that

490
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:54,200
they played in that year wasn't that tough. And uh,

491
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,519
you know that's that's the way the b YU won

492
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,359
it's national championship. Is is a method that I'm totally against.

493
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,680
You know, they were they were chosen. They won all

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,160
their games, nobody else won all their games, and then

495
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,440
they were chosen, right and and I'm against that.

496
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 6: That's the same that's the.

497
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Speaker 4: Same methodology that kept do I U out of the

498
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240
playoffs this year. They were not chosen even though even

499
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,480
though they had earned it. So, you know what, what

500
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,799
is my my point? My point is, like I think

501
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,640
right now, the the talent that is both on.

502
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,799
Speaker 6: The team and then on the on the opposing teams, the.

503
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Speaker 4: The strength of schedule, the difficulty of the schedule. I

504
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,359
just I just think it's it's unparalleled, both both not

505
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:45,000
just football but basketball too. Yeah, which this is going

506
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,000
to be the Golden age, That's what I'm saying.

507
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,279
Speaker 2: The golden era of b y U athletics. And what

508
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,240
what has has created this golden era? Would you say,

509
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,119
like if you were to we always talked about pie

510
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,200
chart accountability on the show. You know what where do

511
00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:00,920
you who do you dole out like the credibility to

512
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,559
the the you know, the merit to in this process

513
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,759
to what and who?

514
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: So well, before I answer that, I'll answer that, but

515
00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:12,519
well back to what you said. You know, like when

516
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:14,640
you and I played in not five year stretch, you know,

517
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,519
when we were there and maybe the next couple of

518
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,839
years after we were there, Yes, that is that was

519
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,880
a great air too, But this is still the same thing.

520
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,599
We didn't play against the competition that these guys are

521
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,720
playing against now, and and so it's just it's not

522
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,119
it's apples oranges comparison, and so it's just it's really

523
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,039
hard to compare eras. So go back to the to

524
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,279
the question that you just said. Honestly, I think it

525
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:45,880
is the decision makers being willing to locate the resources

526
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:52,599
be that time for dollar bills to go match up

527
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,160
with the talent and the dedication and the passion that

528
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,920
the Bous always had. And I think that's the difference

529
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,880
the last couple of years in football and basketball that

530
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,720
has that has boosted them up. It's I think it's

531
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:10,359
a combination of the passion that's always been there and

532
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,839
now all of a sudden which has not always been there,

533
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,799
a willingness to allocate resources that's never been done before.

534
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,119
And when when moost teams get together, great things happen.

535
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:22,480
So how you that's what we're seeing.

536
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,519
Speaker 2: Resources matter. There's no doubt I think in the in

537
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,319
times past when we've maybe heaped criticism, you can look

538
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:33,839
at the resource critique. We've also discussed on these airways before,

539
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:40,119
like how buy us changing culturally from an honor code standpoint, right,

540
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,519
how they're approaching that, how they're uh maybe approaching recruiting

541
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,920
obviously stuff to find the right fits, et cetera. Being

542
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,920
in a P four uh P four conference helps the

543
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,759
the additional revenue money coming from TV and then that

544
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,039
being obviously allocated. As you mentioned, uh Kalani's culture I

545
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,480
think deserves some credit here too, and how it attracts

546
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:03,640
and retains talent.

547
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and before somebody out there that's listening

548
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,160
or who's not listening or anybody as well, they just

549
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:16,359
they just spent money. That's not obviously they have, but

550
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,400
that's not all that it takes. And and you don't

551
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,160
have to look any further than like say Lsu, who

552
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:26,920
was was mediocre at best this season and spent all

553
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,039
sorts of money. And and they're not the only one. Michigan,

554
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,599
you know, Texas was was decent but not great, and

555
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,920
they spent a ton of money. They were right right

556
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,599
there at the top. And the list goes on and on,

557
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,680
and so it's not just spending money, it's both. It's

558
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:47,720
culture like you just mentioned, and the money and the resources,

559
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:50,160
the passion, all that stuff, it all goes together. And

560
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,519
uh and so yeah, that's that's what they have there

561
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,400
in Provo. And that's why we're seeing what we're seeing

562
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,160
in the two flagship sports of football and basketball and

563
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,160
all the other sports have always been great. They've always dominated,

564
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960
and it warms my heart to see it. They win,

565
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,240
they win offers championships like it's nobody's business, and they

566
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,079
win national championships and it's awesome and and and that's

567
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,359
part of why I love BYU because it's just a

568
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,640
place of excellence everywhere you look, not just sports, not

569
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,119
just the main sports, but all the sports, and not

570
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,359
just the athletic department, the whole the whole university is

571
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,079
just a culture of excellence. And I just absolutely love it.

572
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: As b why former b YU great Brian Keel here

573
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,720
on your Utai ESBN radio network, getting a little keeping

574
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,119
up with the Cougars and getting his thoughts on BAYU football.

575
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,640
Uh who is Kelly papinga Brian Keel And Uh what

576
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,960
was your reaction when he became the defensive coordinator for

577
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:45,440
b YU.

578
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 4: I mean, to me, he's just a great friend and teammate.

579
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,519
Couldn't be couldn't be more excited for Kelly and opportunities

580
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,400
for him personally, and then also for program and and

581
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:04,440
just everything that it means. And it's just, uh, it's

582
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:08,480
just cool to to see somebody that that you you bled,

583
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,480
sweat and cried with on the battlefield twenty years ago

584
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,160
to rise to this level.

585
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,079
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just so cool.

586
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: One of one of the greatest times of my life

587
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,039
was a two month period that I was training after

588
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,160
after the senior right after our senior season in California,

589
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,359
and I lived with Kelly and we were training and

590
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,000
it was just it was one of the greatest times

591
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,319
of my life because it was just it was so

592
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,519
fun to to have no other focus other than football,

593
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,319
improving our bodies, and and then all the hope that was,

594
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,720
you know, the hope, just the hope of what was

595
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:52,960
hopefully to come for in the next couple of months.

596
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,279
And it was just such a fun time. I absolutely

597
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,519
loved it. And I have always loved Kelly, but that

598
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,799
was that was just a fun time. And and it

599
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,039
has been really really cool to see him progressed throughout

600
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,440
his career, and I'm just excited for this opportunity.

601
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate Pop's got his opportunity and I think he's

602
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:14,640
gonna seize it. He's got a lot of mentors in

603
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,599
his life after the Bronco was a mentor of ours

604
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,319
as well. He's going to take components of maybe the

605
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,599
Bronco era what he learned at Virginia. He's got Gary Anderson, J.

606
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,799
Hill touch points. Now it'll be probably a combination of

607
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:31,519
of those coordinators. I'm sure there's other touch points as

608
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,160
well that he's he's mentioned, and he's going to put

609
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,119
his own flair to it. What type of defense do

610
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960
you think we'll see with k Pop at the helm

611
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:39,799
of that defense?

612
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. And while you were saying that,

613
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:47,000
it actually just made me think of something biggybacking off

614
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,160
of what I just mentioned. You know, Kelly and I

615
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:52,799
we went to this facility and we trained for two

616
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,799
months and it was it was revolutionary for me. I

617
00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,359
I the whole time I was in Provo, I was

618
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,640
trying to gain and really couldn't do it.

619
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: And then we go to this place.

620
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: We're there for two months and I gained twelve pounds

621
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,880
and my body fat went down. I mean just was

622
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,119
and and really the difference was the science. Obviously, you know,

623
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640
you're you're working out twice a day, so that that

624
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,240
was different. But then beyond that was the science, the

625
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:24,160
nutrition and the science. And anyway back out of the

626
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,160
times your question, So you know Kelly and I were

627
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,240
there for two months, and what did Kelly do? Kelly

628
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,920
recorded the workouts and at that at that point in time,

629
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,079
Kelly's plan, outside of trying to play football, was to

630
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,759
go into the support science sports exercise science, YEP, and

631
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,400
either be a strength coach or a trainer or something

632
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480
in that in that realm. This was before he had

633
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,279
decided to go into quoting. Obviously he went he went

634
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:49,720
to the Cardinals and he was there for a year

635
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,079
and and that, but this before any of that, and

636
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,640
Kelly took notes of the workouts, understood the workouts and

637
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:01,519
when we got done training, we came home and and

638
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160
and still needed to train for for pro DA and

639
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,880
and for the upcoming season. And Kelly had all the workouts,

640
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,839
he had everything diagrammed. What's my point here, Kelly is

641
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,519
the type of guy that is gonna he's gonna extract

642
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:20,359
all the usefulness from his surroundings. So going back to

643
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640
what you said, Yeah, we were all mentored by Bronco

644
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,519
and and some people are able to extract what Bronco

645
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,759
has to offer. And Kelly is the type of guy

646
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,200
who absolutely did that. And and then and then you

647
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,319
you know, you go to his time at Boise and

648
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:40,000
he's the type to extract to useful information from Boise uh,

649
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:41,960
and then the last couple of years with Jay Hill,

650
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,119
who is a phenomenal coach obviously, and I have the

651
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,319
highest esteem for I think Kelly has extracted all of

652
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:51,759
the information from him, and so I just that's why

653
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,400
I have such my expectations that hope for Kelly, because

654
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720
that's who he is as a person, and he has

655
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,559
that work ethic as well, and when you combine those

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,559
things and then there's just high levels of possibility.

657
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:07,359
Speaker 2: One of the things that we've debated amongst fans amongst

658
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880
maybe even former players, is you know what type of

659
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,640
front will be why you be employing it? And I'm

660
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,640
sure it'll be multiple, but uh, this last year, I

661
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480
was I was kind of I was trying to, you know,

662
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,880
kind of look at the percentages and and I this

663
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,559
is a rough count, but I got it confirmed by

664
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,200
a few people there in the building. It was roughly, uh,

665
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,359
seventy thirty front with a stand up outside edge similar

666
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
to what we played, but not always the weak side edge.

667
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:35,319
You'd have a strong side edge stand up uh, you know,

668
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,119
kind of like a Noo Sea time with baby Jack

669
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Kelly off that strong side edge.

670
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

671
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: They they ran a lot of nickel too. They ran

672
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,279
some like three three five in that out of that

673
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,799
thirty front. A lot of us, you know, we've always

674
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,759
want to, Hey, we want to get in that forty front,

675
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:54,119
and Bay fans want that, and and it's what Kyle's

676
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,559
done and Jay did and Gary did it at Utah.

677
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,079
I don't know if that's the future of Vau's defense

678
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
or for it's more of this hybrid with a majority

679
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,279
of it being you know, seventy sixty percent of it

680
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,000
being more of a thirty front with a stand up

681
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,079
outside edge two point guy, give me your thoughts on

682
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,440
this and what you would like to see.

683
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that that stuff's important, but I think

684
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:25,079
what's most important is crafting your scheme to to the

685
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,279
personnel that you have. And I think there's a lot

686
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,680
of really clever and really X and O sound football

687
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160
coaches out there that are just stuck on their scheme

688
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680
or whatever it might be when they don't have the

689
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:45,200
personnel to run it. And and so you know, I

690
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,359
personally I like a four four down front, but like

691
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,079
you know, in order to in order to run that,

692
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,880
you need you need the personnel. And so so that

693
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,400
that's what's going to come into play. They can recruit

694
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,839
who they can bring in and what type of guys

695
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,079
they have, and I imagine that, you know, Kelly will

696
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,960
adapt this scheme to to the guys. And I think

697
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,039
that's the reason why we've seen that the last couple

698
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,840
of years, and that's what I expect going forward is

699
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:17,280
is uh, you adapt, You adapt to your X and o's,

700
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,320
to the Williams and the Joe's that you have on

701
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,840
the roster.

702
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:22,559
Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get to a point where

703
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,320
and I've made these these comments before. It's like, typically

704
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,559
with the four down front, like you need you need

705
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,960
some dogs, you need some dudes up there, like you know,

706
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,199
watch that Texas Tech defense A front, but they have

707
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,400
they have two deep there too, So you have to

708
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,639
have at least four dudes at defensive tackle that can

709
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,000
win one on ones and be twitchy. You need four

710
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,079
dudes at the defensive end spot that are at that

711
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,159
two fifty two sixty range that have great ability and

712
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,400
great band or even just ridiculous length, et cetera, and

713
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,039
twitch It's like, are we going to be able to

714
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,960
find that as a you know, four round guys? Is

715
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
that the most the most likely year in, a year out?

716
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,039
Or is it what we've seen over the last thirty

717
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,840
forty years BYU has been more LBU than it's been

718
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,000
any other position, quarterback, offensive line, running back, you know,

719
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,960
it's it's tight end. We've had more LBUS. We produce

720
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,239
more linebackers than we do any other position.

721
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, I agree with that, and I

722
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,039
think that has been our history, but I don't necessarily

723
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:29,960
think that's our future. Like meaning it's a given that

724
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:33,639
that that will say the same and like to the

725
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,480
point that you were just making. I think if you

726
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,400
look nationally, the two best defensive fronts in my opinion

727
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:48,079
are Texas Tech and Miami and absolutely just traumatized quarterbacks

728
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,559
with the with the pressure, with the pressure that they bring.

729
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:56,079
And it's a that's a that's a that's a William

730
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,000
Joe thing. That's just that's just dudes. That's not scheme,

731
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:00,559
that's not you.

732
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,079
Speaker 6: Know, there's some of that that goes into it, but

733
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:02,920
it's just those guys.

734
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: Those guys are just dogs, Like like you just mentioned

735
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,119
the guys that those two two teams have. And I

736
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,800
think now that going back to what we said with

737
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,599
the willingness to allocate resources, I think I think those

738
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,679
that type of dog is in play. And it's still, yeah,

739
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,360
it's got to be a cultural fit and it's got

740
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880
to be an honor code fit and all that stuff,

741
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,280
but I think that's in play. I think it's it's

742
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,199
available and put be on the horizon. I don't I

743
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,199
don't know if it's you know, I'm not predict predicting

744
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,320
or yeah, or you know, but I think that's in play.

745
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,719
And I think that that's the proven in in terms

746
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360
of disrupting the quarterback. I think that's that's the best

747
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,360
way to do it. But again, you got to have

748
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,440
those dogs, and not everybody has them.

749
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: The transfer portal giveth and it taketh away by us

750
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,039
required seven guys, right, seven dudes. Three of them are

751
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:56,440
offensive lineman. You did pick up a linebacker that could

752
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:58,719
replace Jack Kelly and Kado Lave and all the least.

753
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000
You see player that Vic so Oda, one of our

754
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,599
teammates coached up and he's a you know, Vick is

755
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,360
a fantastic coach. Okaate's gonna come into ball out. Jake

756
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,719
Clifton linebacker, Kansas State wide receiver Kyle Casper and Uh

757
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,559
Walker Lions, uh tight end at a USC You know this, Rossie,

758
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,119
you watch a lot of football, Keel. You know if

759
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:20,920
you were to say, hey, there's a couple of positions

760
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,920
or a couple of acquisitions in a position group that

761
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,119
you'd like to see, what are they and why?

762
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,199
Speaker 6: Yeah? So, well, let's just go back to our season.

763
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: Obviously we lost to one team. Okay, we we lost

764
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:37,440
to to Texas Tech twice. Why did we lose those games?

765
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:42,280
I think we were competitive enough to win Defensively, I

766
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,360
think offensively we couldn't move the ball, couldn't couldn't generate

767
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,360
the points competitively enough to win those games.

768
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 2: Ye, why why.

769
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,199
Speaker 4: Could we not? Why could we? Why could we score

770
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000
points on everybody else but not on Texas Tech. I

771
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,400
think it was a matchup issue. I think it's part

772
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,639
of the problem. I think part of it was having

773
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:06,000
a young freshman quarterback who had a phenomenal year, of

774
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,280
record setting year, just an extraordinary year, but still as

775
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,840
a freshman and and you know, still a little nervous

776
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,760
and you know, not not experience, not a seasoned veteran

777
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,239
to to to go against the defense that suffocating. But

778
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,719
then the other issue is and and we've talked about this,

779
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,920
it's it's it's somebody who can create separation at will

780
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,280
and stretch the field. And this is this is an

781
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,320
issue that by Us always had. If you go back

782
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,320
to our senior year, you know we we are our

783
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,000
big competition was TCU and Utah and and it was

784
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:49,639
tough against those defenses with with athletic secondary for our

785
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,920
receivers to create separation and and score the points that

786
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,679
we scored on everybody else. And and when I want

787
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480
us play Texas Tech twice, that's what I that's what

788
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,480
my mind went back to, is from the receiver quarterbacks

789
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:04,039
back there, there's nowhere to go with the ball. There's

790
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:05,519
just where are you gonna go with the ball? And

791
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,119
you watch it from the wide angle, there's just nowhere

792
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:10,119
to go with the ball. And it's it's we need

793
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,079
we need more guys that can create separation and that

794
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,000
that's the one thing I think that we'll really take

795
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:20,960
our team to the next level in my humble opinion.

796
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 2: So separation in the wide receiver room. Separation can occur

797
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,159
from like a tight end, right Walker Lions come from

798
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,239
usc possibly Carson Ryan had a pretty good year, you

799
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,519
know it. But but running backs too can create separation.

800
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:38,039
I mean, Harvey and Curtis, we're really good at their

801
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,320
one on ones. Right, is to kind of get break

802
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,039
down a little bit more of this separation. Uh, And

803
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,000
where it comes from? Is it primarily thinking your your

804
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,840
wide receiver room?

805
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think in terms of that's not the

806
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:52,599
only place where separation comes from.

807
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,519
Speaker 4: But in terms of what I think our team is

808
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,679
currently missing and has historically missed, it is that position.

809
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
It's a guy, it's a it's a it's just a

810
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,920
top end receiver who can stretch the field and and

811
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:12,360
and stress the defense. And you know, that's that's something

812
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,760
that we really haven't ever had at least consistency, consistently,

813
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,159
and today, you know, the game of football is all

814
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,079
about that player that's that wide receiver once that that

815
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,199
that stresses the defense. So the decoordinator is at night

816
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,039
late seeking how can I stop this guy. If I

817
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,760
don't account for this guy, it's going to burn us.

818
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,079
Speaker 6: And and it just changes the game.

819
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,079
Speaker 4: When you have that guy. You know, that guy doesn't

820
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:41,800
even need to get the ball. He doesn't even need

821
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,800
to have eight for one and ten and a touchdown

822
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,639
he took to change the game. It's just the threat

823
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,039
of that guy. And that opens everything up.

824
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:52,159
Speaker 6: But it opens it.

825
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 4: Creates separation for the other receivers, and it opens up

826
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,440
the running game so that the running game's not jet

827
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,559
so so jammed up. And if you go back to

828
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,800
those those two Texas Tech losses, part of our issue

829
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,519
was we could not run the ball. We ran the

830
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,440
ball great on everybody else. If we do not run

831
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,440
the ball against those guys, and it it you know,

832
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,760
stimy off the rest of our offense. And so they

833
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,039
go hand in hand, and I think for us to

834
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:21,199
really get to the next level, which is what's what's

835
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,360
what's the next level, it's getting in the playoff and

836
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
winning playoff games. That's the next level. And in order

837
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,400
to do that, I think that's what we need.

838
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: Brian Kiel former b Y. You great talking some BYU

839
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,480
football here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Last thing

840
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,119
before we let you go, Keel Zone, appreciate you hopping

841
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,079
on talking some ball with me today and excited to

842
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,039
see you know what, b why you not only retain

843
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,639
most of their most of their roster, all their key players,

844
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,440
but they also retain their offensive coordinator, all their offensive coaches.

845
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880
They lost j Hill and General. Those were two big losses,

846
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,079
there's no doubt. But much of everything that makes BYU

847
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:59,880
great over the last five years is retained. And so

848
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:03,360
I think it leans into your golden era initial commentary.

849
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,440
It's like, man, that's special, right that that we're trending

850
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,840
in that direction and that all this retention is happening

851
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,760
while all the new resources are coming in. And so

852
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,920
next season, do you think b YU can be better?

853
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:19,519
Do you think they will be better than they were

854
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:19,920
this year?

855
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,639
Speaker 4: Honestly, I do I think they will take a step

856
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,519
forward to en be better. I think I think with

857
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:32,119
everything that you just mentioned, it just it gives me

858
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,039
confidence that, honestly that I really don't know that I've

859
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:39,159
had before. You know, it's it's always just kind of

860
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,639
like a wait and hope for the next season. But

861
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,519
I think we're at a point now where it's this

862
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,400
expectations and if you look at the premiere programs in

863
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:54,920
the country, which is where we want to get. I mean,

864
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,079
it's it is year after.

865
00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 6: Year, it's just a given that they're going to be complete.

866
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 4: On the biggest stage. And and I think that's I mean,

867
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,599
we're not there yet obviously, but that's where I think

868
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:10,360
we're capable of.

869
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,159
Speaker 6: Getting where I want to get, where I think all

870
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,360
the decision makers.

871
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,039
Speaker 4: Down there want to get. And so that that's what

872
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:17,920
it is. It's this year and in year out. It's

873
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:22,760
it's expecting the most and then doing what it takes

874
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,679
to then go deliver it. So yeah, I do I

875
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,079
expect us to be to pick up right where we

876
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:30,880
left off and take a big step forward. And the

877
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,719
biggest piece of that is that young stresman quarterback who

878
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960
is phenomenal is now going to be a second year

879
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:42,400
quarterback and have a year of live bullets under his belt,

880
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,360
and I think he's just going to be that much better.

881
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,800
And that's that's why I'm excited and so optimistic.

882
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,199
Speaker 2: Actually, I have one the last question for as debating

883
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,400
with John about this recently, is weight gain for a

884
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:59,320
quarterback good or not good for their throwing strength? We

885
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,039
talked Bachmeyer. You know, he's a hefty dude. He's a

886
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,559
hefty dude, right, He's got he's got some girth to him.

887
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,400
He was listed I think at two twenty and then

888
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,519
it was moved to like two thirty. Man he looked

889
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,360
like he was he was rumbling around at like two

890
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:18,320
forty this season. Should he drop weight, gain weight, keep

891
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,400
his weight the same? What do you think and what

892
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,480
type of impact does it have on throw and arm strength?

893
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,159
Speaker 4: I think whatever weight he was at he should try

894
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,199
to hold. And if I were this is just me,

895
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,599
if I was him, I think he should maybe try

896
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:41,199
to lean up at that weight, and that is more

897
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,360
for elusiveness and wiggle than anything else.

898
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,039
Speaker 2: Yep.

899
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 4: In terms of in terms of throwing the ball, I

900
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,800
don't think weight. I don't It doesn't matter It's just

901
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,760
that's torque and leverage and mechanics, and that's I don't

902
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,400
think that's going.

903
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 6: To factor in, uh in throwing the ball, because I.

904
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 4: Mean there's there's hefty quarterbacks, there's skinny quarterbacks. I mean,

905
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,039
I've I've seen some of the skinniest quarterbacks absolutely have

906
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,039
rifles for arms. And I played with one, Sam Bradford

907
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,320
was a was you know, the look the look at

908
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,920
the guy was a wet noodle, but he had an

909
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,840
absolute cannon on his shoulder, and you know, and then

910
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
and then there's the other end of the spectrum too,

911
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:33,199
So I don't think that matters. But elusiveness, I think, uh,

912
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,400
if you lean that up and develop that, I mean,

913
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:41,800
how how old is Barry's eighteen? Is he nineteen something

914
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,480
like that? I mean, yeah, he's just you're not your

915
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:47,480
explosiveness is not it's not maxed out at that age,

916
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,880
like you know, that's he's still got several years of

917
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,159
of explosive increase and you know, trich muscle fiber and

918
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,800
and so that's the stuff Like if I was him,

919
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
that's what I would focus on. And and it's going

920
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:06,480
by it's for elusiveness, for a capability be the best quarterbacks,

921
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,360
the best quarterbacks in today's football. They control it and

922
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,119
they them get away m hm. And that that takes,

923
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,519
that takes us capability.

924
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:19,079
Speaker 2: So keell Zone, best way to support you what you do,

925
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:20,719
how you do it for all of our listeners.

926
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 6: Just support by you.

927
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: That's all I care about.

928
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,599
Speaker 2: It's all you care about. No, you're an entrepreneur. What

929
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,679
businesses you running these days? Keel Zone.

930
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, gokoogs, gokugs, that's what that's what matters.

931
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 2: I love it, appreciate you man, support Brigham Baby, support

932
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,360
uh Brigham Young University. There you have it.

933
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 4: Kill Zone, Thanks so much, buddy, Amen, ye, thank you sir.

934
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