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showing up and showing out. We have had a great cast,

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as well as Andrew Gentry. I think that's funny that

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you know he ran into j Hill at the airport.

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I think the guy actually who we're going to have

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on the line. He actually asked him, you know, the

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question about the full circle moment of Michigan and all

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that and Kyle Whitningham. That was pretty crazy. But I

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don't know, I just feel like the old is community small.

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I feel like this whole Michigan Utah BYU thing Andrew

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like this is the that's the way it goes. I

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and maybe I'm just blessed and there was no line

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and I walked straight through. I've gotten through security going

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just blessed. But you know, all you can be blessed.

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last time before we end our show. We got Jaydrew

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of the Desert News today. Jay, thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure is great to be on.

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Speaker 2: Of course. I mean, look, I gotta have the with

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this beautiful weather, this beautiful Tuesday, March twenty fourth, I

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got to have the best golfer in the state of

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Utah that covers the BYU beat on. Have you golf today?

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Do you got anything planned? I know you were looking

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around the sky yesterday, smile and I already talked about

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a little trip. I know you're planning some golf stuff, Jay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had a company meeting today, so I wasn't able

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to get out. Then I had a project due that

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I just wrapped up kind of a BYU basketball season rap,

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okay article that I did, But yeah, I'm gonna try

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to get out tomorrow. It's you just this weather right now.

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You cannot pass it up. That's for sure.

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Speaker 2: I agree with it. I'm thinking of a beautiful walk

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and maybe some ice cream with the little one. You're

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not wrong. You can't beat this weather, no doubt about it.

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You said BYU basketball season recap, you were out there.

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I believe it was in Portland. Take us through. Fans

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are going to say heartbreaking last summer, call it the

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most disappointing season in BYU history. That's all left up

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there for debate. But how would you recap the season

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so many ways to describe it,

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up and down. Rocky, it's the word AJ used, disappointing.

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called it a waste of a season. I think that's

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way too harsh. I think you can say it was

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unsatisfying or disappointing. But I mean they still, you know,

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they still did some amazing things, obviously centered around AJ

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Debonca and everything that he did. I was just thinking though,

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if you'd told me at the start of the season,

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if you'd say, Aj Debonsa is going to maintain his status,

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is the number one pick in the draft. AJ Debuonca

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is going to lead the country in scoring. AJ Debonsa

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is going to be a candidate for National Player of

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the Year. Aj Debonsa is going to be a consensus

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ap all our consensus, all American ap A Smith, all

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the different ones that put one out. I would have

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said by used final four. I honestly would have if

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you had just told me what Aj was going to accomplish.

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So he accomplished all that. So I got to say,

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in that realm, you have got to say that this

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was a wildly successful season. Maybe not imediately, maybe ten

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years down down the road, when when you look back

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at this season and say Aj debounce has changed BYU basketball.

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it was a successful season. Now, because of the expectations,

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the anticipation everything, the Final four or bust, all the

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logan slogans that were out there. Because of all that,

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a little deeper, I think a lot was gleaned from

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this season that will really help BYU in the future,

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that will really set this program up to succeed. We've

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already seen it with Bruce Branch committing to play for BYU,

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a five star prospect, and and but I just think,

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you know, to call it a waste is really way, way,

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way too harsh. To say it was not satisfactory. Yeah,

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you can go there, but that's kind of where I

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stand on it. If that makes sense, it does.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't think I'm in the

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conversation of waste. I can hear disappointment. I'll say that

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even there are disappointing moments. I think that's fair. That's

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on the table. But you just gave all the reasons

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of why it wasn't. And we've heard Jason Mcat how

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we played that sound. A lot of people are saying

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that it wasn't. You know, the numbers of the nial

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of influx of all this, they're saying to be why

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you get the best return on investment, and it is

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Bruce Branch. The third is that the return on investment,

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because we've seen it now right, number one year old,

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number one high school, number one jugal now have committed

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to be all you. Kj's play, kJ, Perry's youet to play.

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top ten, it's just Bruce Branch commits five three five

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stars in the last three years. To me, I think

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that's what quality and if that is. And I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, I mean I don't think the national media

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understands how AJ embraced this community and how in a way,

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if AJ had not had a good experience at b YU,

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if it had gone sour for whatever reason, it would

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have been kind of disastrous for BYU. But the opposite happened.

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He embraced the place. Everybody loved him, He loved BYU.

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And he said that from the podium after the Texas loss,

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when he easily could have been discouraged or sad and

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you know, vented some frustration. Instead, he basically said what

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was really in his heart and on his mind. And

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so yeah, I when people talk about return on investment,

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I mean, look at the Merihit Center's been packed. Look

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at the schedule they were able to put together only

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because of AJ schedule that I don't think non conference

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schedule that will ever be duplicated because they just do

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not have that type of guy that did say hey

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we want you know. I mean the fact that they

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were put in primetime, that Texas game up primetime when

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all the other games were going on. That's the game

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that CBS, TBS, all the stations chose to put in

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primetime in the East. And it was because of AJ

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DEBATSA even over Duke all the other teams that were

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playing that day. So yeah, I think I think BYU,

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I think it was worth every penny and then some.

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I mean, I think he was worth millions more to

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think when you look back

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on it five ten years down the line, you just said,

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Agy debonds have changed to bye to have a player

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like that Jay. And look, you've covered BYU way longer

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than anyone else. You've been doing this this beat a

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long time. This is the first time we've seen a

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player of that caliber. From everything I've heard in my

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short time covering come to BYU be this successful elevate

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the program and probably a change Biu's trajectory as long

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as Kevin Young is here, probably for you know, all

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time and eternity. I hate to go like spiritual and

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say that, but I believe as long as Kevin Young

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c if AG is the number one pick J, the

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floodgates are just going to open, like BYU is gonna

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get I shouldn't say whatever they want, but the high

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level talent is going to be like BYU's the spot

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that I can be in, especially if they the right

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cultural fit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly. Kevin always uses the phrase proof of concept

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and the next time he goes into a home. You know,

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obviously with Bruce Bratt, she's already done it. But the

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next time he, I mean, AJ Debonca is proven of

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concept if there ever was such a thing. The fact

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that you know, I mean, as of right now, it

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looks like all the momentum is in his favor to

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be the number one pick. And I mean that's all

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he could ask for, you know, when Kevin Young recruited

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him to BYU, and I mean, what more could you

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ask for? Of course, they're not going to promise that

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you're going to win a national championship and all that

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other stuff. But the one thing that they could promise

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him was that he would develop and he would be

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an NBA, you know, top three pick, which he's certainly

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gonna be. So AJ delivered on his promise, and Kevin

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Young and Byu delivered on there. So win win, I mean,

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I know they didn't get a win in the NCAA tournament,

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but win, win all the way around, and on almost

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every other aspect that you look at.

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Speaker 2: Win, win all the way around. A lot of people

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are gonna be happy. And he gave fans the season that.

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I mean, you drop forty on Utah forty point triple

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double baptisms highlights. I mean, look, you're gonna look back

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Let's discuss the future though we know what AJ is

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gonna do the rest of this roster. Where do they

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go from here? Your counterpart, Jackson Pain has said, back

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to the basket big. It seems like they're missing that

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with the be too experiment how that worked. Maybe he

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doesn't need another year development. I'll be happy to eat

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crow if I'm wrong, but you look at the schools

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that are competing, even like a Tuggler with Houston, you

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gotta even need a freak defensive guy, a guy that

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you know, let him down and it was to injury

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they definitely need. Kevin said they needed

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a more rugged player, more rugged inside players. Kevicaida had

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a good career. He was slightly undersized and you know,

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otherworldly athletic as everybody saw. He could jump out of

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couldn't shoot free throws very well. But most importantly, he

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was not a low post scorer other than on lobs.

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basket and make a move and score like Foos could

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a year ago, even despite being as undersized as he was.

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So yeah, I agree. Kevin Young said it several times

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the other night after the Texas lost the Holy Grail,

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and college basketball is shooting and they need shooters. And

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if you look at March Madness, you look at all

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these teams that are advancing, they're the teams that most

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of them can hit the three pointer consistently, and byu,

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especially when Nitchie went down, But even before that, they

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were showing cracks did not make shots. They did not

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have consistent shot makers from the outside. Alexa came in

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and helped him a little bit in that regard, but

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he was wildly inconsistent. So I would say those two

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things they need. They needed shot makers, and they need,

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like Jackson said, a big, burly kind of a low

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post score with some rebounding skills. I personally, I think

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they had to keep Beato. I don't know what they're

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paying him. It's obviously quite a bit if they got

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him out of the G League, But personally, I think

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you keep him because not of the starting center. I

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don't think he was a starter in a Power Flour

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conference on a Power four conference team, But I think

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he's a good enough rim protector and guy down there

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that can swallow up some minutes, take up some fouls

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that you maybe keep him if he's guy, if the

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value is right for both sides. But certainly they need

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to get a guy that can score down low on

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a consistent basis, and obviously they didn't have that this year.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. I brought up the conversation of you know,

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could Ali Khalifa helped the team?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: I know Ali, His game shape readiness is different at

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Louisville than it was at BYU. But when he was

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on a hitting threes, it really stretched a defense. So

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we'll see what they do in the offseason. How much

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roster turnover do you expect, though, because the guys on

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this roster didn't perform, I have to assume that Kevin

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and the players themselves are going to probably look at

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what's the best for them too. I think he said

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it's not just us, it's what do other players want

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to do. How much roster attrition do you expect going

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into the next season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was looking at it. They lose

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for five guys if you count aj for sure, then

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so that brings eleven guys on the roster right now

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or eligible come back, including kJ Perry the junior college transfer,

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and Dawson Baker and Nate Pick and some other guys

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that are maybe questionable because of the injuries. I think

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of that group of eleven, I think six come back

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or six or seven ish in that range. So I

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don't you know they don't have. I don't think the

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turnover is going to be huge like some schools and

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the whole rosters turned over, but yeah, I think it's

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going to be significant. I think I think some guys

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are going to be showing the door basically, you know,

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pat on the back, thanks for what you did, but

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you just basically don't provide enough value. And that's what

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it's all about in this day and age of nil

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and rev sharing is is the player's got to provide

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value the value that you're paying him. And some of

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these guys frankly don't want to name names, but just

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did not this year, and that was one of the

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reasons for the kind of why the season collapsed a

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little bit is I think they overvalued some of these

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guys out of the transfer portal that got him in here,

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and then they just the talent evaluation was off. These

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guys were not as good as they were supposed to

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be and and wouldn't be why you suffered a few

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injuries and they were in a major hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a good point. Whatever the resources

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allocated to the guys were, it doesn't matter at this

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point the season's over. But even then, it didn't get

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the return on investment like it did with other things.

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I think you did see some stuff down the stretch

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from obviously Alexi coach Cunard. I think Dominique's defense. There's

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there's a couple of guys who I think if they

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wanted to come back, you know, might have their place.

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But we'll see. I don't know who it will be,

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but the name that has been flowing out there. Kevin

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was pretty declarative in the post game, and we know

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Kevin Young doesn't say anything Jay that he doesn't want

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to say. He says that to your point about shooting

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more shooting around Rob Wright, I was like, oh wow,

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did that conversation already happen? You know, is he anticipating that?

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But more shooting around Rob right? Is if Rob Wright's

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gonna come back now he told you. You know, when

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you're at the Big Tel Tournament, it's either by you

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or pro there's no in between, go to another school.

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So it's either Rob Wright comes back for one more year.

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He's taken off the go start his professional career. Do

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you believe Rob Wright comes back for once one more season?

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Speaker 3: B YU, Yeah, I do, I really do. I believe

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based on what Kevin. Kevin said of building the roster

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around Rob Wright, Uh, with shooters, based on that, based

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on what Rob told me. There's a few other signs.

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We've just Rob's done something for Coasta Vita. It's been

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out there. I think that's pretty much a local Utah restaurant,

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these commercials out there if and all that, if Rob

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was was leaving, so all those things stacked up kind

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of lead me to believe that, yes, he is staying.

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And Uh. And you know, let's one of the things

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you guys have probably talked about ad on him on

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your show is that these guys can make more money

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in college nowadays than they can in the NBA, you know,

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especially if you're not a first round NBA draft pick,

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and Rob almost certainly wouldn't be. So, yeah, he can

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make I don't know what he's making. I'm assuming it's

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you know, it's well above a million dollars a year,

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and he frankly could not make that in professional basketball NBA,

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Europe anywhere. So it would you know, financially, it just

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would be if he's going to stay in call, if

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he's not going to you know, go to the pros.

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It would be really behoove himself to stay at BYU. Yeah,

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in college in particular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. And I think he likes BYU.

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And I look, I know this is how it is

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when you look at Rob and this is what you know.

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Sometimes it looks like on the court maybe I know

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people say the body language. He's just a very mellow guy,

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so it looks like, oh, he might not like it.

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But when he's at the women's basketball game last night

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and watching at the WBI T and he's with Tyler,

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he's with Xavion, he likes it here in Provo. He

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likes the fans, like taking pictures with people, dabbing people up.

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But sometimes you know, when you're calm, cool and collected

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and laid back, it doesn't get that vibe. But I

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think Robin Joyce's time in Provo from what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I never I haven't had a really

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a one on one conversation with Rob since mid January

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by on phone, other than the little time we had

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after he lost his tooth in Kansas City. But I've

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asked him several times how with it going, you know,

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as a double minority and all that in provo and

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every time he's just said he loves it, loves the

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kind of laid back nature of the place. He's okay,

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kind of what he called being in a fish bowl

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where everybody recognizes you. He said that was something he

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had to get used to. But yeah, he's never said

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anything remotely negative in my conversations with him about about

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being at BYU.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be He's gonna be a big

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part of the offense if he comes back. I remember

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talking to Jordan Brady in the off season and Jordan

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straight up said, hey, we expect him to have a

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big year and improving. He did. He had career highs

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I think in a lot of things. So I'm not

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surprised that Kevin Young wants to bring him back. If

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that would be the case, j We'll get you out

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of here on this. How does that coexist? I guess

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with you know, the kJ Perrys of the world, because

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you have to think with kJ Perry, Dawson, Nate rob

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that's I love all those guards. When you look at

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what their skill set brings. How do you get the

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chemistry and make it co exist?

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Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, that's gonna be a big, a big task

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for Kevin and his staff. Of those four guys you mentioned,

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I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they lose one of

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those guys, gotcha, because of what you just said. How

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you know, there's only a certain amount of minutes that.

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Speaker 2: Go along, so much ball to go around, Jay, right, You.

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Speaker 3: Know Dawson can play the two a little bit, and yeah,

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other positions, he doesn't necessarily need to have the ball

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in his hands a lot like like we know that

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Rob does. So it'll be interesting to see it.

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Speaker 2: Definitely will be interesting to see Jay. Before I'll let

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you go, appreciate you joining us today. What's the best

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way we can support you? What you do, how you

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do it? Where the socials? Where's the website?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on mostly on ax at Drew ju and

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then on our website Deseret Dot, Calm, Backslash BYU Sports

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you can find all my coverage Jackson Pain, Dick Harmon,

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Dave McCann. The list goes on and on. Now we

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try to cover BYU as best as we possibly can.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys do a good job. The only thing

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I'm gonna make sure I tell Brett Kenny and all

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of that none of you four can be on the

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golf team. That is not okay, all those names you mentioned,

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We will get smoked in June if all of you

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are allowed to be on the same team.

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Speaker 3: We're gearing up. I'm throwing out that throwing this out

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right now, we are gearing out.

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Speaker 2: I do see every year the Desert dudes just comes in.

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It takes about it. Don't think I've never surprised y'all

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got some good dudes that could golf. But you know,

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make some room for you know, the three man weave.

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You know, you need a little bit of a you

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need a little bit of flavor. I can stand out

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like Rob right in the group. You know, I can

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stand out, you know, a little bit o kJ appreciate

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your time today. We'll let you go.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining you, bet Ronnie, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Of course I was Jay Drew of the Desert News

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and the Cougar Bead. Appreciate Jajo and I had to

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Speaker 7: BYU Women's basketball keeps on Dancing. Last night, the Keegers

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defeated the Missouri Tigers in the second round of the

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WBIT by a score of ninety three to seventy five.

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Delandy GiB led the way for BYU, scoring twenty nine

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points and did so with a career high three pointers.

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Give also eclipsed the one thousand point mark in her career,

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and it's the thirty fourth year to do so. Being

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the third fastest. King Ry Barbert joined in on the fund,

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having her third career double double. Next up for BYU

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is the Elite eight of the WBIT where they will

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take on Stanford, who is the number two seed in

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their legion, on Thursday in the Marriott Center. The winner

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of that game on Thursday, we'll head to the Final

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four in Wichita, Kansas for a game next Monday. Speaking

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of winning, BYU, men's golf is currently underway and the

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GCAA Bridgestone Collegiate Invitational, and after the thirty six holes

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played yesterday, they sit in first place. Not only is

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the team in prome position to win, but freshman's stand

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out Kiya Keenez it's a top.

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Speaker 2: The leaderboard at twelve hunder.

473
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Speaker 7: Today will feature the final eighteen holes will play in

474
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that tournament, as well as two more games on the diamond.

475
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Speaker 8: The UAA baseball will head up north to.

476
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Speaker 7: Face crosstown rival Utah and what will be the three

477
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hundred and eighty fifth matchup between the two squads, and

478
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BYU softball heads up University Parkway to take on the

479
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Wolverines of the Utah Valley for the fifty seventh meeting

480
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between the two squads all time. First pitch for both

481
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games is at six o'clock. I'm Cameron Clark and this

482
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has been your ESPN The Fan Cougar Sports Center Update.

483
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Listen every morning seven to ten on your Utah ESPN Radio.

484
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Speaker 6: Now, your new home of UVU Wolverines Baseball is one O, three,

485
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nine and ninety eight three ESPN The Fan. What's going

486
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on in the world of Cougar athletics. Here from players, coaches,

487
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and experts on all of the latest happenings with the Cougars.

488
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Speaker 2: Now, welcome back to Cougarer Sports here on one on three,

489
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nine and ninety eight three ESPN The Fan of Ronald

490
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the three man Weaver Brett always bringing the hammer by

491
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my side. We've had a great show. We appreciate everyone's

492
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showing up and showing out for this Tuesday edition. Lots

493
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that we talked about, talked about just to recap a

494
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little bit. Parker Kingston we started to show off with

495
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that got into some Kalini satake sound Cam Clark joined

496
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us to discuss Bollioman's basketball advancing to the quarterfinals of

497
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the WBI t the only basketball program in the state

498
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that's still play I believe that's everything that's going on

499
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right now in the state of regarding basketball BAU basketball

500
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now and the off season, and then obviously had Matt

501
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Brown stopped by the program to discuss why teams don't

502
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want to schedule Miami, Ohio and some other college football news,

503
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and then got into some Andrew Gentry then just finished

504
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up with Jadre gonna get into this water Bou Sports segment.

505
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It's going to be brought to you by one of

506
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our mini sponsors, Utah Protective Films. If you need a wrap,

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a tent or a chrome delete, you need to hit

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the former BYUI receiver Jared Bletzo. Look, the weather's getting nice.

509
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He took care of our car and he says, wait

510
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till the sun comes out. It's it's gonna be great

511
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because it's gonna repel off that glass. That ten's going

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to be nice. And guess what, I don't sweat in

513
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the car. The car gets cool extremely fast. The wife

514
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loves it, the kid is happy. So I'm telling you

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you need to go to Utah Protective Films. And when

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you mentioned Minkridle, you're gonna get the ESPN the fan discount.

517
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Speaking of Utah Protective films. Let's welcome in. He's here

518
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in studio with us. We got the owner operator prepared

519
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of it, Jared Blets. So I'll be doing today. Brother.

520
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Speaker 8: What's that man? How are you?

521
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Speaker 2: I'm great, I'm doing good man. Let's get right into springball. Actually,

522
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,319
I'll get your thoughts on this really quickly. BYU women's basketball,

523
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,160
the only team in the state still playing basketball. Look,

524
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if they beat Stanford on Thursday, they go to this

525
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in my finals with an opportunity to go to the finals,

526
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and they'll be in Wichita, Kansas. I just think Lee

527
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,920
Kamard has done a great job with this team. In

528
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his first year. He tied Jeff Jenkins for the most

529
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wins by a first year head coaching program history last night.

530
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Speaker 8: That's great. Sounds like we need to allocate some money

531
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that director.

532
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,039
Speaker 2: Look, all I gotta say is this Delaney Gibb. You

533
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,599
know you're gonna have to resign her and then Olivia Hamlin.

534
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,319
They got a good roster. Just like with BA football players,

535
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,279
they show up. Shot, you got to maintain. It's all

536
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:31,640
about retention these days in the world of in iol.

537
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,920
All right, that's off the table, listing. Go ahead, Hey,

538
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,279
let me.

539
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Speaker 5: Let me let me on one comment on this re

540
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signing thing. So I'm gonna leave the player's name out.

541
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,640
I was chatting with the player of basketball and it

542
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,680
struck me that and and he read shirt it this year,

543
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,759
and I was having a conversation with him, and he

544
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,559
was talking about resigning his contract.

545
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Speaker 8: It wasn't sure if he was gonna resign, and.

546
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Speaker 5: Bro it blow my mind that you can come to

547
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:07,799
a school, collect money, red shirt and then have the

548
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,200
ability to renegotiate the contract.

549
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 8: And maybe not even come back.

550
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: So you got paid to red shirt, but you might

551
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,720
not even come back the next year. I just can't

552
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,839
understand this process that's going on. There's got to be

553
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,960
something in place here soon where there are expectations of players,

554
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,920
like if you're gonna come in and you're gonna collect

555
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,559
a check and red shirt, you got to give us

556
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:34,160
some one more year, right, I mean that, I just

557
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440
couldn't believe that that that's even on the table for

558
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people to renegotiate a contract after a red shirt year

559
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,160
and then maybe leave, you know, after collecting money for

560
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,079
the whole year. Right, It just doesn't make sense to me.

561
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And I at some point, some groundwork needs to be

562
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,559
really laid out for these this nil transfer portal option.

563
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,480
You know, I keep going back to the thought, if

564
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the NBA or the NFL had the ability and each

565
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:04,440
player had the ability to renegotiate their contract at the

566
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,119
end of every single year, we wouldn't even have a league.

567
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:07,759
Speaker 8: You know.

568
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 5: You wouldn't follow teams anymore, You'd follow players because that's

569
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all there are is players going everywhere, and every team

570
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would be different every year.

571
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Speaker 8: And I feel like that's what we're going to.

572
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Speaker 5: Deal with with BYU basketball, you know, is that you

573
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and any sport, you know, you have that unless you

574
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have a system and a set like Kilani is running

575
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,920
with the football team where you set a standard and

576
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you're bringing guys in that are buying into the process

577
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instead of buying into the check, you know. And I

578
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,000
feel like we're basketball is going to run a real

579
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,799
tight line here for a while if we continue to

580
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just bring people in for the check and for the

581
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expectation of the win versus buying into a culture. And

582
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I think that's what Kevin Young needs to start focusing

583
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,720
on as a culture. Start looking at why Kilani's players

584
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,640
are coming back, why they aren't transferring out why the

585
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,880
best players here aren't out seeking bigger contracts, but are

586
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negotiating their their their deal to stay here. That's their goal,

587
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,920
you know. So I think that that although we had

588
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,599
these high expectations going to this year, and had it worked,

589
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you know, without the injuries and things and at panned

590
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out the way that everybody dreamed it would, it maybe

591
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,759
would be different. But I think the long term positive

592
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,359
effects are to build a culture that people want to play.

593
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Speaker 2: In culture over paycheck. As I'm taking away and listening,

594
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it's it's difficult. Look, basketball parameters are not football. I

595
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,720
always reiterate this, and I'll continue to preach this. I

596
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:35,319
can I only have to play for one year in

597
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,480
basketball and I'm gone football I have to play for three.

598
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:42,079
So I think that are already pigeonholes you and uh

599
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200
handicaps you a little bit as well. So but nothing

600
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,440
beach culture does any today. People always say this. With

601
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a job, people quit either a supervisor or they leave

602
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,759
for a better opportunity. And when they quit a supervisor,

603
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,799
they quit a job, they're quitting a culture because they

604
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,359
probably don't like their coworkers, they don't feel valued and

605
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,839
things like that. And you see that as as we

606
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,240
discussed earlier in the show. You know that it's crazy

607
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,160
just how quickly you know, kids jump in. But yeah,

608
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,000
I'm I'm. I think the re signing every year, regardless

609
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,920
of what sport that is, that's crazy to me. I

610
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,720
wish I could negotiate my my paycheck every single year

611
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,920
of Hey, you know, I did this much for the podcast?

612
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,839
Can I get more? I love to do that, but

613
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:20,559
that's just not that.

614
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,079
Speaker 8: We guess what would happen if we did that? Hey,

615
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,440
thank you, we can't afford you. We're gonna move on.

616
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:27,599
You know that.

617
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Speaker 2: You Yeah, I feel that it's it's it's tough. All

618
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,200
I got to say is I'm grateful that I don't

619
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have to make those decisions. And uh, I report on

620
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what how the how it goes, So we will we

621
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,519
will definitely see hopefully. I just you hope that that

622
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,440
the basketball team doesn't have six season any injuries like

623
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last And at.

624
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: Some point I think it's advantageous for for everyone to

625
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:49,240
know what these contracts are.

626
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 8: I'm kind of confused that, but why most of them

627
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,440
are hidden.

628
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,839
Speaker 2: You know, we don't private university, they don't have to

629
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,519
necessarily do that. The reason, Yeah, the by US A

630
00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,480
private and U university. I don't have to tell you anything.

631
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:00,519
They can create.

632
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,799
Speaker 5: The public universities can opt out if they want to.

633
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: But you got a lot of information from public university

634
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,079
that you do. They just choose not to deliver that.

635
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,559
They're saying yes or no BYU is not obligated by

636
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:13,119
any law or anything to say anything.

637
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,599
Speaker 5: Because I just think the NCAA needs to step in.

638
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,200
I agree with you to if that's some ground.

639
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 8: Rules for how this process works, yep, because the.

640
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,039
Speaker 2: Free for all is a CBA. They need something, they

641
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,480
need something to negotiate. And look, I said this was

642
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,079
my biggest thing. My biggest gripe was, Hey, look, I

643
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:32,960
think it's great to pay players. I think that's a

644
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
great thing. They should. They work really hard to put

645
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,720
in a lot of time. But if that's the case,

646
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:38,599
then you have to treat them like professional athletes and

647
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,759
everything that comes with that, like if they if they

648
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:42,799
make a mistake, then they can get bounced. If coaches

649
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,640
don't perform in the year and you're saying, all right,

650
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
make a change, Look, I think all of that's all

651
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,359
of that's now on the table when you when you

652
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,880
treat it like a business. Then they have to it

653
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880
all has to be acted like a business. But in

654
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240
that same breath, this is the problem now because they

655
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,960
didn't have rules.

656
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you sign a contract, you have to fulfill

657
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:01,799
the content. I agree with you. Otherwise there's penalties.

658
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: And what we're seeing is guys don't have to fulfill

659
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,599
a contract and they leave and there's no penalty, you know.

660
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,839
And so I see, so there are some universities that

661
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,920
are starting to throw out penalties and trying, but they're

662
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,599
having to go through court to try to get these.

663
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they're legal contracts.

664
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: And I just think that that if if the groundwork

665
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:25,000
is set, should have been in the beginning obviously, but

666
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400
where we're at now, they just need to have some

667
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,240
ground rules set where I mean, the transfer portal has shrunk,

668
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:34,079
you know, where they only have limited time. That that helps,

669
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,279
but I think that there is some.

670
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Speaker 2: And if you're a transferportal player, you're only going to

671
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,759
impact right away. You're not going to you're going for

672
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:42,640
more playing time or you're an impact player. I feel like,

673
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,680
well that's what it is.

674
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Speaker 8: You know.

675
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Speaker 5: What I see too, is that the guy who transfers

676
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,279
in is more likely to transfer out than the freshman

677
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,039
who's been here for two years. You know that you

678
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:57,680
start to see this, this trajectory of guys transferring once,

679
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
the likelihood of them transferring twice and a third time

680
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,200
is extremely high. Even at BYU, typically they're on their

681
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,319
second or third transfer.

682
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,799
Speaker 2: Darius Laster came from you know, to Miami exactly. Look

683
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,359
at Harrison Taggered. Uh no, I mean I did the

684
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200
math right after Darius Lasher and Keeling like came in. Jared,

685
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
I think the average kid transfers looking at the number

686
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440
one point eight or nine times, So that's two times

687
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,240
that a college athlete's gonna transfer these days before they

688
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,279
find their home. You look at Keeling, you look at

689
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:33,319
Harrison Tagger already mentioned a couple. Obviously Darius came over

690
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,319
like that's how it is. And obviously the Jake Reds laughs.

691
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,279
Guy guys and Darius are differently playing Juko and coming up.

692
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,759
I feel like those are different. But for the most part,

693
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,480
I you know, in the way of nil like, I

694
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,319
still bring it up of I thought you shouldn't let

695
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:47,000
Kiln Maryan walk out of door. You needed him, and

696
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:50,960
look what happened, you know, And that's three I mean

697
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,680
only exactly.

698
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 8: It wasn't.

699
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't moriy I guess because he didn't

700
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:55,240
run a four to two seven, you know. And again

701
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,559
I'm being tongue in cheek when I say that, but

702
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,920
I'm being serious in the same breadth of like that,

703
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,000
Like I feel like that could have helped to be

704
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:02,319
why you know, it might not have been an end

705
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,559
all bial but I believe, I don't know, I firmly

706
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,279
believe having played sports, Jared talking to about that, as

707
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,480
we've watched, when a guy's on the field, you have

708
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,000
to game plan for that if you know what guy's

709
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,039
gonna play, and that just changes how a defense does

710
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,200
the same in basketball, right when when certain players out

711
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,599
double that guy, Okay, it's way easier that receivers out

712
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,240
double this guy.

713
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:23,599
Speaker 5: That's just not The Texas coach said, how you when

714
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:25,759
he was asked, how are you going to stop stop

715
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:27,880
aj We're not, but we're gonna stop it.

716
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: He said, oh no, you just can't let him get

717
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,559
you in foul trouble and then it's over. But he's like, no,

718
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,359
we're not. We can't stop that guy, but everybody else

719
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,000
we could stop.

720
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 8: What a great game plan. You know, Look a year

721
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,519
stopping this guy.

722
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,559
Speaker 5: You know, we if we can't stop Agent, but we

723
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,880
stopped the other four on the court, they can't win.

724
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,119
Speaker 8: It's true and and that's the truth. And that's kind

725
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:48,720
of what you know.

726
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,599
Speaker 2: You think about the injuries and maybe other things, but no,

727
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,559
all important things. But look, we're in a crazy day

728
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,119
and you know we talked about around about it in

729
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,599
the early days. I think something's coming down to Pope.

730
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,720
I don't know what, but I do agree you're one point.

731
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,319
I am a fan of this because this is how

732
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,599
I am. If you've agreed to something, especially written on

733
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,559
paper or contract, and you go leave. Look, I'll say this,

734
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
if another school wants you and they're willing to pay

735
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,880
the buyout like coaches, I got no issue with that.

736
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,599
That all should be written in, no problem. But if

737
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,079
you're just gonna up and leave and says no they

738
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,639
want to pay me more you signed, especially if you've

739
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,639
taken money for sure, even if you haven't. I still

740
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,519
frown upon.

741
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,639
Speaker 8: All of that.

742
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: Like you agreed, and there's just no college athletics is

743
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440
all transactional now, there's nothing transformation. And I think that's

744
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,119
why to your point, people like BYU and I think

745
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,199
it's a lot more attractive and becoming a lot more

746
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000
because it's like, oh, it's not just yes, you're getting

747
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,920
your market rate, but it's more than just that, you're

748
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,320
building your future for the entire lifetime. You get to

749
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,000
be with people that you care about, that you love.

750
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,800
Like I caught up with traycon Borgae at practice yesterday

751
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,360
and Trayson said, I had opportunities to go and leave.

752
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,920
I could have done that, but it we'll put an

753
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,280
interview tomorrow, you know, on Wednesday. But he said, no,

754
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,960
like I wanted to be at BYU. It's bigger than

755
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,800
just you know, it's a football. It was just football exactly,

756
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,559
Like it's not just about money. You can't He's like,

757
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,199
that's gonna come and go. But if you just look

758
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,840
at it from that standpoint, He's like, I just don't

759
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,159
think that's the right way to go. And I think

760
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,719
what you hear from the players, not us, not you know,

761
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,400
not you the form player, not me the medium, when

762
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,840
they hear from the actual players playing in this day

763
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000
and age, especially Trason, who's not a member of the church,

764
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,000
has no reason to bring this up. Hey, I want

765
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,360
to be here for this purpose. I think that's great.

766
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:20,559
I think that's what that's why I want to highlight

767
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,639
that stuff for that particular purpose. So I think that's

768
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:23,840
a very valid point.

769
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: Well, and I think we're creating a culture that they

770
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,719
start to see that even after BYU, the relationships that

771
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,199
you've built here will continue on as the opportunities in business,

772
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,000
the opportunities down the line. Because you were an athlete

773
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,679
at BYU, that opens doors as well. And I think

774
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,880
that that's starting to play into a little bit more

775
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920
of just you know, keeping people here and understanding that

776
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,360
there we do build a culture that has opportunities down

777
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,760
the line, and people people from b why you remember

778
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,360
who you are and want to give you the opportunity

779
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,800
to either grow your business or give you the opportunity

780
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400
to run a business or to be employed by that man.

781
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 8: And so there's a lot more opportunity.

782
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 5: And I think that the mindset is a little more

783
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,639
open here at BYU than it is in some of

784
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:16,800
the other schools as well.

785
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,679
Speaker 2: Not wrong, and I think that's why Killine's thriving and

786
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,840
this culture is succeeding. For sure. I've heard from multiple people.

787
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480
I will continue to ask the members of the football team,

788
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
but specifically those who aren't of the faith why they

789
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,039
are here because look, in the world of everything going on,

790
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:32,079
I'm serious, Evan Johnson, don't need to be here if

791
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:33,599
you don't want to, Dason boordg you don't need to

792
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:34,639
be here if they don't want to. And that's not

793
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:36,800
a shot, but that's just me pointing out and painting

794
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,559
the perspective and a picture of why guys want to

795
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,000
be here, and that it's bigger than just Okay, I'm

796
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,599
getting everything that I've worked hard for the return on investment.

797
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,760
It's bigger than just you know, setting my family up

798
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,719
financially for the future. It's I'm setting myself up for life, relationships,

799
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,760
good people, and you see that, and I love what

800
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,559
you know they're doing. And I hope that for all

801
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
programs across BA Athletics, not just one. I hope that

802
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,599
for the entire universe. And I think Shane reason, Keith

803
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,280
working all of those do a great job of leading

804
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,719
and guiding.

805
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,679
Speaker 8: Hopefully.

806
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,639
Speaker 5: I think we're the focus on recruiting the right kids,

807
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,280
is there too, Absolutely no, It's it's.

808
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,119
Speaker 8: Not just the best athletes.

809
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,559
Speaker 2: The right athlete who can be the athletes that.

810
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,039
Speaker 5: Are going to come in and are going to buy

811
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:19,639
into the program and are going to want to put

812
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,360
in the time and stay, yeah, and earn, earn their

813
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,639
opportunities to start.

814
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,119
Speaker 8: Well.

815
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,079
Speaker 2: When you hear from Kilanie, I mean you've heard from

816
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,639
Klannie a Rod Jay Hill when he was here. Uh

817
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000
And what did they say? They said, if a kid

818
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,880
starts off a conversation with an il, that's that's not

819
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,039
how it goes. We don't talk about planning time or

820
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,119
we recruit, we don't talk about nil. That's not how

821
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,639
we pitch. And you see that, and you can see

822
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,400
that in the athletes. Look, football is not perfect, basketball

823
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,039
is not perfect, soccer, whateveryone looks. There's going to be

824
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,119
some bad apples here and that's a part of it.

825
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,480
That's life. There's gonna be those individuals and look, I

826
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,559
say this, I think those individuals will see what it's

827
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,719
about and not like it and they'll weed themselves out.

828
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,559
That's kind of how I look at it. They will say,

829
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,400
let me leave because I'm not doing AYZ. I don't

830
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,400
think it has nothing to do with the culture and

831
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,599
those I think it's those individuals that they don't like

832
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,519
the direction that it's head and they might have a

833
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:11,960
different agendas, I like to say, and that agenda just

834
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,800
doesn't line up. And that's okay. There are places where

835
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,639
your jenda does line up, but it's not going to

836
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:17,440
be here at b YU. Let's get into the springball

837
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,599
talk now. I want to ask you this. You're way

838
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:24,079
too early. Why receivers coming out of springball? We had

839
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,719
asked a Rod, because there's no transport window I think

840
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,800
for spring, so the depth chart. But I've heard a

841
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,400
handful of names of talk to Trason, he said, legend,

842
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,480
we know Kyler, Kasper JoJo's on the list. Tatani Kua

843
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,559
has been mentioned a bunch. But look, I like the

844
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,159
Pula kid. From your standpoint, who you're going with? Who

845
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:41,159
are the three or the four? You think if they

846
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,400
were if they were to release it too deep? Who's

847
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,960
coming out? I guess as though starting three out of

848
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,360
springball in a week or so.

849
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think that A Rod, I think

850
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,199
I was talking the other day and he said, you know,

851
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,480
we really don't run the two deep when it comes

852
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,440
to receivers because it's who can who who can play

853
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,079
and make play on this particular.

854
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,559
Speaker 2: Drive said, I'm just.

855
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,119
Speaker 8: The right guy to make this play.

856
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,039
Speaker 5: And I think there's like six guys in that receiver

857
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:13,639
room that have unique abilities that can make different plays

858
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,119
at different times. So it's gonna be really I mean,

859
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,480
you know, Taana Kub he's standing out to me, and

860
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,480
I think he's forcing the hand, you know, to get

861
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:23,239
some playing time.

862
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,519
Speaker 8: You know, JoJo's going to get a lot of catches

863
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,559
this year and get a lot of opportunity.

864
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: Uh and and it just there's just a handful of

865
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,599
guys in there that.

866
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 8: That are ready to go. And I think it's great.

867
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 5: You know, usually it's three, three or four guys that

868
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,039
you know are the go to guys. I think we

869
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,119
have five or six guys that can compete and actually

870
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:48,480
get playing time every game, which which is cool as

871
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,000
a coach because you're situational, you have options like this

872
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,599
guy is great and third and long, we need a quick,

873
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,719
quick hitter, you know, a quick middle screen or something

874
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,119
we can use this guy, you know. So having that

875
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,119
handful of guys that you can use now, I do

876
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,280
think once the season starts, a few of these guys

877
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,440
are really going to stand out above the other ones.

878
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,159
But I do think that there's still gonna be a

879
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:16,199
good five or six guys that get a consistent amount

880
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,960
of playing time and really have opportunities to show. But

881
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,039
but there's always a few that stand out, you know,

882
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,639
that are gonna But right now I think there's there

883
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,039
those five or six I have a pretty even playing

884
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:31,079
field and all have that opportunity to be that one,

885
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,960
two or three stand out in the group. It just

886
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,760
who's gonna make plays, who's gonna get open and uh

887
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,199
and I think we'll be able to tell that going

888
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:40,880
into fall camp.

889
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 8: I really don't think he's going to release a two D.

890
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,199
Speaker 2: No, they're not. You know they say that, but they're

891
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,000
not going to No.

892
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,639
Speaker 5: No, because there's you know, we've got three on the

893
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,159
field that most times there's three receivers. And then with

894
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,039
with these two excellent tight ends that we have coming

895
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:56,320
in and I'm telling you, man.

896
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: Robert, Robert and I'll Walker, they've raved a bottom Klanni

897
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:00,199
and a rob Bolt.

898
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 8: Media Visions.

899
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, so I and I spend some time talking

900
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960
with Kevin Gilbrad the other day and I think I

901
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,800
mentioned it on Friday, But Kevin knows NFL talent.

902
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 8: You know, He's spent around the NFL with his.

903
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 5: Dad for his entire life and coaching the NFL and

904
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,320
when he one of the best things that he told

905
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,079
me about these two new tight ends is he said

906
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,599
they are coachable. You know, and a lot of times

907
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,559
when you get these high end guys that are big

908
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,960
transfers and big time guys, sometimes their attitude isn't as

909
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,000
coachable as maybe some of the guys that know that

910
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,280
they're trying to fight to get on the field and

911
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,840
being hearing from their position coach that these guys are

912
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,719
coachable and their athletes, and he said, we can have

913
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,800
two Carson Ryan's on the field at the same time.

914
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: You know that's a privilege in college football.

915
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:48,079
Speaker 8: Yeah.

916
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 5: So now you've got three wide receivers, two tight ends.

917
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,360
You know, there's so many options. And then you got

918
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,199
LJ in the backfield. You know, you've you've got sim

919
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,679
I think that whoever's putting out those Cauchy numbers for

920
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,920
for by you to not make the Big I think

921
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000
there's six percent chance of winning the Big twelve.

922
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 8: I need to find out where to place my bet because.

923
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: I have endoor scambling on the airways and will get

924
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,760
me if I don't say.

925
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 8: That it's a it's a monopoly.

926
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,639
Speaker 2: Money, monopoly money.

927
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, But at any rate, there's the odds out

928
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,079
there that they're putting out there.

929
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: I think are in our favor because I think this

930
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,760
team is gonna come out and really show that that

931
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,880
there's a reason everybody came back.

932
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Look they're gonna be in the Big twelve title, no doubt.

933
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:32,840
And look they're going to have a chance, and I'll

934
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,719
be there again. I think I will be too. We'll

935
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,119
see if I can get Ben out there. But no,

936
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,039
they they have the positions and needs. I think the

937
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,280
biggest thing you saw was depit tight end, no doubt

938
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,719
about it. I think also having depth, you know, at

939
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,480
the receiver position was something that was also a position

940
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:50,840
to me. Either are a couple of the things. Linebacker, you know,

941
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,239
guys are dinged up, uh, And you know the biggest

942
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,159
thing is running back. You know, you got to have

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a bunch of guys to be able to run the ball.

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When you see what Texas ticket. They have the tight

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ends that can line up in the flag out and

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catch passes. Then they also had running backs that could

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run the ball. So b Yu I think has done

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their due diligence with that. So we're gonna see what's

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going to happen.

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Speaker 9: And I think I think with these receivers too, is

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that a lot of well not a lot, but well

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they are they aren't all game game tested, right, so

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they're susing well, they're performing, they're making plays.

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Speaker 5: But man, we get in the game, that's where some

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some of these guys are gonna separate themselves. But we

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need these guys to be gamers, you know, to get

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in the game.

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Speaker 2: And just playmakers immediately, kind of.

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Speaker 8: Like what I'm expecting myself next week in the in

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the am game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a gamer, That's what it is, cannect. Can I

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can I expect a couple of touchdowns? What can I expect?

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Speaker 5: No, No, you can't because I can't get hurt because

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I'm going to Hawaii four days later.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I are low. I have a play in

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mind that I'm going to pass on to coach Bosco.

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Speaker 5: I think you need to run and h but but

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I'll be happy with a catch or two.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm just happy to be out there

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and the opportunity to go and throw the ball around

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and pretend like we're still super athletes for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Jared, Before I let you go, tell us about

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Utah Protective Films of Utah Protective Films really quickly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we as as Ronnie was saying, we'd love

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to have you come in. We are Our ceramic window

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tent is phenomenal going into summer.

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Speaker 8: The heat rejection is worth it, and they give us

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a chance.

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Speaker 5: During your business, make sure you mentioned that you heard

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us here on ESPN, the Fan or Ben Krittle. You

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can even mention Ronnie's name and all three men. Oh no,

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a discount as well, Yeah, bet at fifteen percent off

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if you let us know that you heard us on

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the radio and we'd love to have you come in.

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Speaker 2: Love to have you come into Utah Protective Films. Always

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appreciate Jared you coming in and we'll let you go

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and we'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, ron appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that was Jared Bletchel of Utah Protective Films.

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You tap Protective Films dot com. I appreciate him stopping by. Yeah,

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World of an Il is crazy. The re sign every

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year crazy but yeah wide receivers. Who out of those

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five guys will make a name six all can't get

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planned time you heard Festi Sataki say it to me

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at the golf tournament for the media last year. He

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really sticks with three four guys that the max. So

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will see if that gets extended. And like Herod said

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to Meat Availability last week, if guys are make us

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play you, that's what it is. Can people on this

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roster make BYU coaches play them? I think you all

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think you're gonna have a bunch of people guys. That's

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our show, sticking to it. Download the podcast iTunes, Speaker,

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google Play, iHeartRadio, Spotify, give us a rating and give

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us a review. Appreciate Brett always bringing the hammer, showing

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up and showing out. Jared Blefts to the former b

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y U Y receiver j J he's a one O

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three nine.

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Speaker 6: That's ninety eight three Sports Center update.

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