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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, this is Left Striving Yes, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Honesty. Hey there, and welcome back to Sasquatch Odds.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being with us for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Sunday. I hope you're having a fantastic weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an amazing show lined up for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>as always, I want to start buy in fighting you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, shoot me an email.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get me at Brian at Paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>World Productions dot com. Get head over to the website,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the blog, become a member there and.

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<v Speaker 2>Help the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked to come on Untold Radio as a

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<v Speaker 1>guest with Doug Hicheck and Alex hycheck over there. Had

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing time talking to those guys. We get into

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things here, and frankly, Doug asks me

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<v Speaker 1>some questions that I've never been asked before, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear things here that you've never heard from me

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. It was a really cool conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're really going to enjoy it. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>my new book, Sasquatch Unleashed the truth behind the legend.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys haven't picked up your copy, if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like an autographed copy, there's a link right here in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes, so that'll take you over to our website.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get it directly from us, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>find it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it directly from Hungary One Publishing. Obviously there won't

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<v Speaker 1>be an autographed copy, but if you're just wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>read the book, you can pick it up basically anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>that you can find fine books. But enough of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are ready to get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all this left for you to do is sit back,

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<v Speaker 1>relax and enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest Brian King Sharp. Brian's the native of northwestern Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been captivated by mysteries beyond our understanding since childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw alled my tales of hairy creatures in the mountains

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<v Speaker 2>near his home, apparently in a personal encounter when he

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<v Speaker 2>was a child, and that ignited his deefascination with the topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Propelling him into the endless exploration of the topic. And

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<v Speaker 2>he had a sixteen year career in law enforcement. And

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<v Speaker 2>Brian turned his passion into a hobby by starting a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast Sasquatch Honesty held into a full time job. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done that over and over. Yes, all I do is

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<v Speaker 2>do hobbies all time. This podcast has become one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most popular podcasts on the topic of subsquatch. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into more details with Brian, but he's appeared on

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of TV shows. Also, he's got some other podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that too. Let's bring Brian on.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, there he is there. He is the man

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<v Speaker 3>in the myth, the legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Does everybody get the disclaimer? Or was that just for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Just for you? Okay, I figure out you need that

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<v Speaker 2>special just for you. Brian, you do know me? I

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<v Speaker 2>figured yeah, I do. Yeah, I knowing you. It's why

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tarous about these questions that I've never been asked before.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be a whole bunch of them. They've never

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<v Speaker 2>been asked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, man, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. First off, you probably have been asked this,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got to tell us quick you saw something

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<v Speaker 2>when you were.

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<v Speaker 1>A kid, didn't see anything. I believe I was paced

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<v Speaker 1>out of the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>By one of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about it in the first chapter of the book,

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatched the least. It was a situation where I out hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an area of the woods that I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>been in before. I always got the creeps there. I

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<v Speaker 1>had this really odd, ominous feeling when I went in

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<v Speaker 1>that area and whatever this was ten fifteen feet away,

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<v Speaker 1>just on the other side of the brush. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see huff's growls. What sounded like, I know now to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bluff charge. That was really something that scared me.

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<v Speaker 1>It really scared me pretty bad. I didn't go in

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been scared on your own property ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Like actual feeling like creeped out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a couple of times. There was a time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a last summer. I'm weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to look for gold on my property. We have

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<v Speaker 1>creaks on the property, so I like to pan for gold.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite shows in the war.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to come there at night. I pan for

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<v Speaker 2>gold when you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering what was making those security lights go off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know it's you, but yeah, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. There was one time last summer, middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, broad daylight, I had this ominous feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>something was watching me every here on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my neck stood up and I just got that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I left the area and I was only maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hundred yards into the woods up the creek. I've

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<v Speaker 1>bent over and I'm just scooping stuff in. I'm paying

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<v Speaker 1>for gold and doing my thing. That feeling just overtook me.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was the other time when I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>vocalizations about forty yards away from the house. That was

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<v Speaker 1>probably three years ago. That was a pretty ominous thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me stop doing night walks. I don't do

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<v Speaker 1>night walks on the property like I used to just

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<v Speaker 1>because of that. I don't want to come face to

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<v Speaker 1>face with whatever made that noise. To be quite frank with, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to see one, but you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see it in the right circumstances. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be opening a curtain and they have been looking at you,

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<v Speaker 2>or see it while you're walk taking a walk at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, I told people.

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<v Speaker 1>I told that story on many podcasts, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it on my show, and people said. The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing they said was, what did you go outside and

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<v Speaker 1>look and see what it was? I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>had no desire.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that. It's so easy, no desire.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I've had situations where I've been outside on the

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<v Speaker 1>deck before bed and i hear something running up the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the heel here that sounded bipedal and sounded

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<v Speaker 1>big I'm not chasing that. I learned long ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>did that in my police career. I don't chase bullets anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't chase bad guys, and I'm not chasing bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>on my property. Just not doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Have you ever had I mean you very

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<v Speaker 2>likely because I know I know where you live, and

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<v Speaker 2>you live in a very very rural area, lot of trees, water,

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<v Speaker 2>a good area, hills, You've got all the right geography.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever experienced a noise or a slap on

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<v Speaker 2>the home or what you thought was a rock hitting

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<v Speaker 2>or your home?

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<v Speaker 1>Never a slap, but I have heard strange things hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the house. We have a ten roof. We live in

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<v Speaker 1>a four hundred square foot tiny house and it has

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<v Speaker 1>a tin roof. But there are things that fall out

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<v Speaker 1>of the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very skeptical.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an Ockhams Raiser kind of guy, so I always

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<v Speaker 1>go to the simplest explanation is it's probably something falling

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<v Speaker 1>out of a tree. I have heard things in the

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<v Speaker 1>past that have made me scratch my head and wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last time I was on with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys was like March of twenty twenty two. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things has happened over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years on the property and off the property obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard wood knocks until last year. It

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<v Speaker 1>was I guess it was early fall. I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go up to Canada, was going on expedition

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<v Speaker 1>with tide standing in October of last year. It was

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<v Speaker 1>right before I left to go to that expedition. I

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<v Speaker 1>went out to do my business off the front porch,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do because we live in the woods. Like

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<v Speaker 1>three o'clock in the morning, I heard these five power knocks.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like bam.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like they were probably half a mile to

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<v Speaker 1>a mile away. There's a huge ridge. Our property goes

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up to the back of the ridge

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<v Speaker 1>we have forty acres and on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>that there's another probably three hundred acres of nothing but woods.

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<v Speaker 1>It was coming from that direction, which is where the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the vocalizations outside of what we heard forty

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<v Speaker 1>yards or so away from the house have come from.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it couldn't be anything other than the quintessential

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<v Speaker 1>wood knock that people describe hearing. That's the first and

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<v Speaker 1>only time I've ever heard anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Things hitting the house, Like I said, I could be

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<v Speaker 1>acorns falling out of a tree, but sometimes I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>them and it sounds like something different, but never a

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<v Speaker 1>slap on the house now, So.

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<v Speaker 2>On the vocals that you've heard, including the wood knocks,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think those could be a vocal to the

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<v Speaker 2>wood knocks? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people I have talked to over the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years have brought that.

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<v Speaker 2>Up more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to one gentleman not too long ago who

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have seen a sasquatch making these popping wood

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<v Speaker 1>knock sounds with its mouth. And I've got another gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>that was in our Facebook group big Foot Encounters and

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<v Speaker 1>Field Research on Facebook. One of the guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>group recently has postulated that these things are mouth pops

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<v Speaker 1>instead of wood knocks. I'm actually in the process of

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<v Speaker 1>reading Tom Powell's.

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<v Speaker 2>Book The Locals.

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<v Speaker 1>I just ordered those because I just interviewed Tom a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago, and it's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>we got into towards the end of his interview is

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<v Speaker 1>he was literally showing me how he thinks that sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>does these wood knocks with their mouth. If you really

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, it doesn't make sense that sasquatch is

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<v Speaker 1>out in the woods with something to knock on trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if you go out right now in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in an area where you can go out

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<v Speaker 1>a tree with that's going to make that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>because ninety percent of the time, anything on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't think they're doing it well exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't. There was a time where we got an

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<v Speaker 2>no way they've phoned a stick that quick and responded,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just no way. How do you think they do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you show us basically what Tom was showing me.

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<v Speaker 1>You open your mouth, you have your mouth open, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're cupping your hands and you're hitting your hands

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<v Speaker 1>much better than me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fail.

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<v Speaker 1>That's definitely a fail. Tom is going to fail me

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<v Speaker 1>out of my science class because I do so.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be like a tongue click and then doing

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<v Speaker 2>the cupping the hands got so interesting because it shirt

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<v Speaker 2>does sound like wood when you get that baseball bat

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<v Speaker 2>or something on the exact right sized pine tree, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just got that echo, hollow sound. But yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just there could be no way they can mimic

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<v Speaker 2>wood hitting wood. What else can they mimic? Now? Metallic sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed so many people that have talked about hearing

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<v Speaker 1>there's no explanation where they're having big foot activity. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make sense. We experienced it quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>times when I was up in Radium last year with Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>These things were interacting like I was doing whoops and

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<v Speaker 1>calls back. I was getting wood knocks in response, much

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's no time for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that, like you can't hind.

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<v Speaker 2>A rock or tide.

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<v Speaker 1>Postulates that they're using rocks on rocks at times and

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<v Speaker 1>or rocks on trees. I don't know. I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate that while I was up there. I took a

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<v Speaker 1>huge trees that hurts like hail.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. Yeah, I don't think that's what's going on, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely that. Yeah, I've heard the two rocks bain together.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of makes sense, but they could be mimicking

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<v Speaker 2>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the weirdest vocal that you've heard other than a woodknock?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely the Ohio Howell type vocalization is what we were hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing we ever heard on the property.

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<v Speaker 2>Like an air raid, Sirene.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that we heard here near the house was

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<v Speaker 1>forty yards away or so, had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a bark or a growl on the end. It was

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<v Speaker 1>at the end it was cleared, So that definitely the weirdest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a samurai growl sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely a good way to put it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the weirdest thing that I've ever heard was up

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<v Speaker 1>in Radium last October. We're sitting around the campfire. There's

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<v Speaker 1>five of us sitting around. Todd's talking, of course, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he does best. We're all sitting there listening

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<v Speaker 1>to him tell the story, and we hear it's like

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of sound sounds like it's thirty feet away

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<v Speaker 1>from us in the woodline. I immediately stopped. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, did you guys hear that. Ashley was there,

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<v Speaker 1>his research partner and girlfriend was sitting there. Kyle, the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy, he heard it. I heard it, Ashley heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd didn't hear it, and Richard, Kyle's dad, who's heart

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<v Speaker 1>of hearing, bless his heart, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't hear much, so he didn't hear it either.

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<v Speaker 1>But we clearly heard what sounded like samurai chatter, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually caught a little bit of that over Todd talking

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<v Speaker 1>on the audio recorded that I had going and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really weird. It's the only time I've ever heard anything

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<v Speaker 1>that sounded remotely like the Sierra sounds Samurai chatter. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>in real life and or recorded. Frankly, I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>it before, but it was clear as day. We definitely

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<v Speaker 1>heard it, and it sounded like it was thirty feet

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<v Speaker 1>away from us. It was not far away.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear them? We recorded like talking of at Snowbrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so weird and so clear. We not only

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<v Speaker 2>heard it, but we recorded it. Dave Ellis, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the chat yep. He started analyzing it and

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<v Speaker 2>comparing it to even some other known vocalizations, including the Moorheads,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet it's got all those missing fundamentals. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like human talking, but with the samurai kind of flair.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so clear. It wasn't like a distant It

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<v Speaker 2>was like talking right near our mic.

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<v Speaker 1>But like another language. We're not talking like English, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking oh right, yeah, like in Gibberish.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet you could if you wanted to, you could

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<v Speaker 2>substit to with you in words. It was mind blowing

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<v Speaker 2>for me, actually knowing something's right outside that cabin door

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of nowhere, talking vocalizing, but with a

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<v Speaker 2>human language. I don't know, man, it's so good chills

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really unnerving when you think about it. I left

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<v Speaker 1>that trip from Radium having had so many awesome experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't explain. God, here we are, We're eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles deep in the middle of freaking nowhere. Something is

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<v Speaker 1>throwing rocks at us. It's either banging a tree or

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<v Speaker 1>it's making something. It sounds like a wood knock. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing this weird gibberish samurai kind of chatter stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really unnerving. We were sleeping in campers. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's face it, those things are like coke cans. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like ten cans, right, there's not a lot of protection.

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<v Speaker 1>If these things wanted in, they could easily get to

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<v Speaker 1>it over. Yeah, it's a done deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a wrap. Right. It's very unnerving.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to put in perspective. I've been watching a documentary

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<v Speaker 3>on chimps, Regular chimps. There was a case with I

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<v Speaker 3>had to put one down and it literally ripped a

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<v Speaker 3>door right off.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a car.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking on a two hundred pound chim not a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those things are no joke, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When we went to Snell, so we went down

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<v Speaker 2>Brian and the lady goes, well, you guys are going out

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<v Speaker 2>to Snell and we're like, yeah, we're flying out today.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like that Cavin got wrecked two weeks ago. Again

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<v Speaker 2>we're like what, Adam goes, you do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>pictures or videos? She is a video broken glass doors

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<v Speaker 2>ripped off, inside, covered doors ripped off, all that same

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird damage, no scratches, no bite marks. Then

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<v Speaker 2>they got it fixed and then that was great. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're thinking, oh, great, the cabin's fixed, we're gonna go back.

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<v Speaker 2>We walked down to the dock, Brian. You get in

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<v Speaker 2>the plane and the pilot goes, oh, we're taking out

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<v Speaker 2>to Snell today and we're like yeah, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>did you hear what happened after we got the cabin fixed?

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<v Speaker 2>Now he goes, something pushed a tree on top of

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<v Speaker 2>the roof. So it's just something doesn't like that cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to the owner and he said, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that cabin has cost me a fortune to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it in repair.

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<v Speaker 1>So they knew you were coming. Doug, You're like a

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<v Speaker 1>magnet for the stony.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, man, it's just it's craziness. Doesn't the existence

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<v Speaker 2>of this creature bother you? Like it bothers me? Like

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<v Speaker 2>we deal with it every day. You do, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know I do every day. I deal with this, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet still bugs me. I can't just look up in

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<v Speaker 2>the encyclopedia or online and see all of the scientific

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<v Speaker 2>photos of it. It just doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it drives me crazy. I have been so skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, and I've been on the fence, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had experiences recently, just over the last less than

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<v Speaker 1>a year that have completely taken me past the point

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<v Speaker 1>of wondering if these things exist to knowing that they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm in this weird place of all I'm focused

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<v Speaker 1>on is what they are, why we can't find them,

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<v Speaker 1>why we don't have them scientifically recognized. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>things just spiral around in my brain constantly. It drives

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<v Speaker 1>me insane, it really does. It keeps me up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nights. I get up and start working, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock in the morning because it just bugs

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<v Speaker 1>me so much that I want to learn as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I possibly can. It's one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 1>started Tom's book after I had the conversation with him

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago. It's just getting as much

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge and frankly anything I can get that would push

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<v Speaker 1>me in a direction one way or the other. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more about recognition. I want to get these things recognized.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that's not everybody's cup of tea. Plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of people say, I'm not trying to prove this to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but knowing's not enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, Brian, you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>this mystery every day. Oh yeah, you're interviewing you. How

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<v Speaker 2>many witnesses of you interviewed by now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over five hundred episodes of sasquat ch Outa.

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<v Speaker 2>See you've interviewed a very minimum five hundred six seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Probably if you figure in speaking engagements and going

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<v Speaker 1>to conferences and just talking to people on the spot

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<v Speaker 1>in person, probably a thousand people at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so probably easy. But we can't get away

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<v Speaker 2>from the lack of substenance. And I've been chasing this

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<v Speaker 2>thing thirty five years, and like you, I have the

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<v Speaker 2>vocals and the rocks and the wood nuts and the

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<v Speaker 2>footprints and the hair, all very physical, but yet I

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<v Speaker 2>still feel like I'm going crazy, going nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you go down the rabbit hole, it takes

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<v Speaker 1>you farther and deeper every single day, but I love it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to think that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't enjoy what you do. I know you do,

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<v Speaker 2>but it still drives you. It is a little bit maddening.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like we're getting closer, for lack of

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<v Speaker 3>a better word, community.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, Alex. I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is a lot of work to be

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<v Speaker 1>done in the community. I see this over and over,

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<v Speaker 1>just the different camps that people are in. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with somebody like Tom Powell. He is out

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<v Speaker 1>there with his theories on these things, but he's come

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<v Speaker 1>to these conclusions after decades of looking into this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still a flesh and blooder. I'm in that camp. I've

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<v Speaker 1>planted my flag there since day one. But I'm open

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<v Speaker 1>minded enough to listen to other people's experiences. I have

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<v Speaker 1>an episode coming out on Friday a lady that I

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed months ago who has some wild experiences with these things.

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<v Speaker 1>She believes that they're interdimensional creatures. They have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to cloak and all of the things that everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>going to call wu or high strangeness. But after having

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation with her, I walked away going wow. I

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<v Speaker 1>was shaking my head a little bit. But she made

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<v Speaker 1>some very valid points during that interview that really made

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<v Speaker 1>me think about other possibilities. So I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, at least I see that a lot. I

422
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<v Speaker 1>collaborate with a ton the people in the Bigfoot community

423
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<v Speaker 1>and stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea. We'll

424
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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

425
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<v Speaker 2>And Brian, you've been in zoo Book meetings. Yes, that's

426
00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.759
<v Speaker 2>a big move forward. Scientists getting together talking about this topic,

427
00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.599
<v Speaker 2>listening to guys like you and like me. I think

428
00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge breakthrough. I agree because that group is growing.

429
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<v Speaker 2>There's more and more scientists and experts joining. At some points,

430
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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping it just keep growing it becomes a real deal.

431
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<v Speaker 2>But do you feel that what is it going to

432
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<v Speaker 2>take to convince Okay, so here's a question, what do

433
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<v Speaker 2>you think it will take just to convince scientists to

434
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<v Speaker 2>study it?

435
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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I think there are plenty of people out there,

436
00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.400
<v Speaker 1>like the ones that are involved in Zoo Book. There

437
00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:54.799
<v Speaker 1>are quite a few that are in the Bigfoot closet,

438
00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:56.839
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to come out because there's a risk

439
00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of losing funding. There's a risk of losing or not

440
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.839
<v Speaker 1>gaining tenure. Meldrum went through that, Krantz went through a

441
00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 1>ton of that before he passed away. In his career,

442
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<v Speaker 1>he was ostracized by plenty of people in his community

443
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<v Speaker 1>of science that did not like the fact that he

444
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<v Speaker 1>was even acknowledging that this was a possibility or even

445
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<v Speaker 1>looking at the evidence. I think until some of those

446
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<v Speaker 1>people come out of the Bigfoot closet and do more

447
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<v Speaker 1>of a Jeff Meldrum approach, I think if a couple

448
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of those people would come out and be leaders in

449
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<v Speaker 1>the field and do that. But honestly, I don't think

450
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<v Speaker 1>any huge number of scientists are going to take this

451
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<v Speaker 1>seriously until there's a type specimen for them to say, Okay,

452
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<v Speaker 1>this is a real deal. Now we're going to start

453
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<v Speaker 1>doing the science right. We're going to take this thing

454
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<v Speaker 1>apart and figure out what it is. Until that happens,

455
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<v Speaker 1>I don't see a whole lot of movement, honestly, outside

456
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<v Speaker 1>of people who have a hobby type interest who may

457
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<v Speaker 1>be a scientist looking into it because they believe there's

458
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<v Speaker 1>a there there, But until there's a type specimen, I

459
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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody in the scientific community at law are

460
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<v Speaker 1>just going to take a huge interest in studying.

461
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<v Speaker 2>What if, though, like Darby and gets safe number of

462
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<v Speaker 2>full sequences DNA. Do you think that might get some

463
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.519
<v Speaker 2>interest more interest? I think it certainly would.

464
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<v Speaker 1>That's something that I've thought about tons and tons of times,

465
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 1>because there's a whole other underbelly of conversations to get

466
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<v Speaker 1>in as far as collecting a specimen or not what

467
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the NAWAC has been trying to do for over a decade. Now,

468
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you get into those conversations with people, and I believe

469
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<v Speaker 1>that if there was a concentrated effort, and I've had

470
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<v Speaker 1>some conversations with people like Jeff from Pine Island Research

471
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<v Speaker 1>about this in the past, if you get enough DNA

472
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<v Speaker 1>from individuals and you can say we've got these twelve

473
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<v Speaker 1>samples or we've got these fifteen samples that come back

474
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<v Speaker 1>unknown there's some sort of unknown primate, then maybe science

475
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.039
<v Speaker 1>may perk up and say, if there's twelve or fifteen

476
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<v Speaker 1>samples that are completely unknown, this has got to be

477
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<v Speaker 1>something that we need to take a look at. Right

478
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<v Speaker 1>that happens though, I really don't see it going any further, honestly,

479
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<v Speaker 1>as far as DNA is concerned, because right now, when

480
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<v Speaker 1>you get a sample of something that comes back unknown

481
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<v Speaker 1>primate or unknown DNA, or appears to have some sort

482
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<v Speaker 1>of contamination or whatever the case may be, that's all

483
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<v Speaker 1>it is. But if you have ten of those, or

484
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<v Speaker 1>twelve of those, or fifteen of those, or twenty of those,

485
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<v Speaker 1>then you can start building a case of Okay, this

486
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<v Speaker 1>collected here. It's unknown, but it's very similar to this.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Then you can string those unknown samples together to say,

488
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<v Speaker 1>now we have these are clearly from different animals, from

489
00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>different specimens. There's got to be there, so maybe somebody

490
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<v Speaker 1>will take it a little bit further and get into that.

491
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<v Speaker 1>But until that happens, I really don't see anything moving

492
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<v Speaker 1>forward in any significant way, honestly than where we've been

493
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<v Speaker 1>in the past.

494
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<v Speaker 2>I think we're racing towards all having a DNA machine

495
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<v Speaker 2>on our desk like we do a copy machine. I

496
00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.240
<v Speaker 2>do see the technology getting smarter. I can hardly the

497
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<v Speaker 2>DNA machines the labs are using from my printer. Do

498
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<v Speaker 2>you remember, Brian, when we would pay or you'd go

499
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<v Speaker 2>into the office and they'd have to sign a twenty

500
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<v Speaker 2>year lease on a copier. I remember signing those leases. God,

501
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.279
<v Speaker 2>we're old, Doug, We're so old. So they were ten

502
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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, which you had to have it. I remember

503
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>signing a lease for the color copy or I was

504
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 2>like a ten year lease because it was so expensive.

505
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But now they're what twenty eight bucks at Walmart or

506
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 2>wherever you go, and then in cart Josey. Yeah there,

507
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>that's where they get you. But they're still affordable. You

508
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.759
<v Speaker 2>can still have a color Crappt machine on your desktop

509
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:44.799
<v Speaker 2>for hundred bucks fully equipped with a wow, five thousand,

510
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand, and back in the nineties that was probably

511
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<v Speaker 2>worth twenty five thousand. DNA machines and processing is coming

512
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<v Speaker 2>that direction quick. I will predict within ten years, you,

513
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<v Speaker 2>Brian king Charp, we'll own your own DNA machine to

514
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 2>process DNA. Could be that's my prediction. I'll almost stick

515
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 2>to a ten years to be able to buy him

516
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<v Speaker 2>at the costco.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look at I guess the most comparable thing that

518
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<v Speaker 1>my mind goes to is like carbon printers.

519
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>There you go, there's the best example ever. Yeah. Good.

520
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Now you go to conferences and people have entire tables

521
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<v Speaker 1>of things and you're like, oh my god, that's such

522
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>a cool Bigfoot. Where did you get that?

523
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

524
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I made it with my carbon printer at home?

525
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, three D printer.

526
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Have a three D printer?

527
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember when those things were, like when they

528
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>first came out, like thirty grand. You can get them

529
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>on eBay now or Amazon for a hundred bucks and

530
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 2>they work really well. It's scary. Alex has got a hold,

531
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<v Speaker 2>like a big room setup. How many three D printers JEV.

532
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Think, like ten or eleven, ten or.

533
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Eleven all running producing stuff, for making stuff or doing whatever.

534
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<v Speaker 2>This is like craziness. So mark my words, in this

535
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>ten years, we're in this very exponential technology at this point.

536
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 3>So basically, even if the scientists aren't willing to do

537
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the hard work, if it's affordable, we can do it.

538
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I just think it's going to be Put it this way,

539
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I think Bigfoot's on its last legs of hiding from humanity.

540
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But here's the devil's advocate for a second, Like, how

541
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>many people are really boots on the ground researchers that

542
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>are out trying to collect DNA. I know you've done

543
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>things in the past. I know, people like Jeff have

544
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>done things. I've talked to other people that have done

545
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>things like they're trying to make traps with velcrow and

546
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>other things to get hair samples and those kind of things.

547
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But how many people are truly doing that, because, let's

548
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>face it, DNA is not really sexy. Beating on trees

549
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.759
<v Speaker 1>and screaming and doing all the fun things that we've

550
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>been taught to do. Finding Bigfoot and all these other

551
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 1>things is fun stuff, right, You're going out in the

552
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>woods and doing all the cool things. But setting up

553
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>something like Jeff's experiment, Jeff's going out and lead balls,

554
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>going and collecting them every day at the butt crack

555
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of dawn and taking an hour ride in on a canoe.

556
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>People just don't do that kind of stuff. And that's

557
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 1>really what it takes, in my opinion. Sure, you can

558
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>look up on a sample, you can find a footprint

559
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that may have some E DNA in it, or a

560
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>rogue hare or something like that, but it takes devoted

561
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>researchers that are boots on the ground really looking for

562
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that for it to be something that we have enough

563
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of those samples to send it to somebody like Darby

564
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>to test yeah.

565
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<v Speaker 2>But like my little tech breakdown, it's no big deal,

566
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>but it reminds people that it's not that hard to

567
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>have at least the tools to collect DNA or fingerprint

568
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I think things are going to change. I

569
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 2>think we're going to see the bar. I'm hoping LMS

570
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>two with all the science I'm putting in there and

571
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>all the news stuff, I'm hoping that raises the bar.

572
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I won't solve the mystery, it'll raise the bar. And

573
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<v Speaker 2>I think we all just keep raising the bar. Every

574
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<v Speaker 2>podcast you do, Brian w you interview with good witness,

575
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you have raised the bar. That's what I try to do.

576
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I started the show because I wanted to talk to

577
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>those people that had those experiences. And I've quickly realized

578
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that I have the ability as a podcast or any podcast,

579
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 1>there's not anything unique to me. Anybody who interviews witnesses,

580
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 1>whether you're talking about Bigfoot or other cryptids or five,

581
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, you become a repository of information. Yeah,

582
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's out there in perpetuity. I could drop dead

583
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and every one of those five hundred plus episodes

584
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 1>of sasquatch Otessy will be out there. In perpetuity for

585
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>people to go back and listen to.

586
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>It, and just so you know, and I don't know

587
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, there are scientists studying your podcast.

588
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>They're listening to those stories. At some point it's going

589
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to have an effect. So what you're doing is very worthwhile,

590
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 2>far beyond what you may think it's doing. I think

591
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>historically people will look back at this stuff and go, wow,

592
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>well it's going to be a big deal. So I

593
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>do congratulate because you're definitely a pioneer in thus.

594
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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Otasey. We'll be right back

595
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 1>after these messages.

596
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<v Speaker 2>You West Germer, other people that have just documented all

597
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 2>these stories are really doing heroes work.

598
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I already see it myself. I can go back and

599
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 1>listen to We just celebrated we're over five hundred episodes

600
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 1>at this point. We just did a live show over

601
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<v Speaker 1>on that Bigfoot podcast to celebrate the five hundred episode

602
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of Sasquatch Odyssey. That's one of the things I talked

603
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<v Speaker 1>about is I go back to episode two or three

604
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<v Speaker 1>of the show and I'm hearing people tell me things

605
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 1>that I thought were some of the most far fetched

606
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 1>things I'd ever heard, and at that time they were.

607
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<v Speaker 1>But over the course of those next five hundred plus episodes,

608
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 1>so many people have had so many similar experiences, almost

609
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>identical experiences, that I can go back and compare and say,

610
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this person was in Missouri and this happened in nineteen

611
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, and then this person had a very similar

612
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 1>experience in New York State in two thousand and three.

613
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>It's so amazing to be able to go through and

614
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 1>see all of the nuances that have come out over

615
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 1>these five hundred plus episodes, of all of these amazing

616
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>encounter stories. I think that is important Now. Hopefully sometime

617
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<v Speaker 1>in the future, like you said, that people will be

618
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 1>able to look back at that. Yeah, because we're already

619
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<v Speaker 1>getting the data.

620
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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, the scientists, Brian can Binge listen to

621
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<v Speaker 2>your shows. You can get this perspective on what's really

622
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<v Speaker 2>going on. They can hear the sincerity in the witness.

623
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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's very important. It's why we just

624
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<v Speaker 2>started five Minute Witness because I want to do something

625
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>a little more that for all people listen to fine

626
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>of our show. The stuff's important to document because there's

627
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>very few people giving evidence and there's very few people

628
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>collecting it. Okay, So what do you think these things are?

629
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<v Speaker 2>I know you mentioned it a little bit here. You

630
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<v Speaker 2>think they're flesh and blood? But get let's go a

631
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>little deeper on that. Do you think they're an indigenous

632
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>etive tribe that somehow is covered with hair? Are they

633
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>a prehistoric man of some sort? What do you think

634
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>they really will end up finding?

635
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<v Speaker 1>That is such a deep question. I am certainly not

636
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>there to have an answer. I have been back and

637
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>forth on so many different levels with possible candidates for

638
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>these things, and I tried to do that a little

639
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>bit and sasquatch on lease. The truth behind the legend

640
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is talk about what they could be. Go down the

641
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>list of candidates.

642
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, how about this, let me make it even more complicated.

643
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh please, do I love complicating because you deluded that

644
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 3>you're still in this camp of flesh and blood? What

645
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>was your best guess when he first got into the podcasting?

646
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 3>How has that changed? How do you feel now? Best guests?

647
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 3>And where was it before?

648
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I was always in some shape, form or fashion, thinking

649
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a relic, hominoid of some sort. Right,

650
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I am farthered down the road now, honestly thanks to

651
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt Pruitt. Matt Pruitt is to blame for this. I

652
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>think Gigantopithecus is probably and not necessarily Gigantopithecus is Blackie.

653
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But some clade of Gigantopithecus, possibly some sort of a hybrid,

654
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>is even possible for these creatures, because if they were

655
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to make it to North America, I think they would

656
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>probably be, in my opinion, the best sort of candidate

657
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>for these things. Otherwise, I don't know what to make

658
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 1>of them, to be honest with you, because nothing explains

659
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 1>the size different abilities that people claim that they've experienced

660
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 1>with these creatures. There is nothing, in my opinion, in

661
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the fossil record, or even possibly outside of the fossil record,

662
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that would be a perfect candidate for all of those things.

663
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 1>But Gigantopithecus certainly fits the bill for possible size some behaviors.

664
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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, mean to interrupt you, but do you think

665
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 2>it's even possible? What if there's two completely different creatures

666
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that evolved two different ways from two different early hominids,

667
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we could be dealing with that too.

668
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty highly unlikely for most people to even conceive

669
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there's some sort of giant, hairy hominid

670
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that's walking around now undiscovered in North America. I think

671
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it would be even a bridge farther than that to

672
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.159
<v Speaker 1>think that there is possible Now. I think there are

673
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 1>possible offshoots or different types of these creatures, because if

674
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<v Speaker 1>you look at the descriptions across history, and we're talking

675
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years, we're not talking about recent history. But

676
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 1>if you just look at the last fifty years of

677
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>documented encounters of these things, from the Pacific Northwest down

678
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to the Everglades in Florida, there are so many different

679
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>types of creatures described. Can you attribute a lot of

680
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that or some would say even most of that to

681
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 1>us being fallible? I wit sure, because under stress and

682
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>high stress situations, people see things that may not be

683
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>entirely accurate. But I think by and large, if you

684
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>just look at the physical descriptions of these things start

685
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Northwest and then work your way east,

686
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they change drastically in some cases, size, different colors, different

687
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 1>facial features, different arm links, you name it. It runs

688
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:24.199
<v Speaker 1>the gambit.

689
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>How often do you hear Brian a reddish browner than

690
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Speaker 2>a ranting colored like the color of your logo. Do

691
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 2>you hear that often or do you mainly hear black?

692
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I hear that quite often, actually reddish brown, rust colored brown,

693
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>specifically in the eastern southeastern United States for the part.

694
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Is it just me or does this seem like it's

695
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>changed in the last five six years? Look, I'm hearing

696
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 2>more and more of these auburn colored.

697
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoots right less black, less dark brown, more of this

698
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>rust colored cinnamon kind of read. Yep, you're absolutely right.

699
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I've seen the trend as well.

700
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>How what do we attribute that to?

701
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Is it some sort of adaptation that's happening over the

702
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>last say, five decades, or is it something else?

703
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it environmental?

704
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Is it something that's just happening in the psyche of

705
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>people because they're hearing those descriptions somehow that morphs its

706
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>way into their experience because they've heard that on shows

707
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like mine. Because we have to be honest, That's why

708
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a huge amount in the book about that

709
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot in pop culture, what that does to the stories,

710
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>how that impacts people's brains when they have experiences genuine

711
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>or not. There's plenty of genuine experiences that people have,

712
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but those things influence us. If you listened to every

713
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>episode of my show or Wes's show, or everything you

714
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 1>can get on Bigfoot, it's going to impact the way

715
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that you experience things when it actually happens to you

716
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 1>in real life. I think there's a combination and a

717
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>culmination of all those things that really affect those things.

718
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But physically, is it an adaptation? Is it something that's

719
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>happening over the evolution of these things. I don't know,

720
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 1>but I've certainly I've noticed it as well. You'll still

721
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>get those accounts of this thing was jet black. It

722
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 1>was blacker than black, it was dark brown. But by

723
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and large, there's a lot more people that are coming

724
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>forward and they're seeing this sort of reddish brown, cinnamon red.

725
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I just swear to God, back in the old days,

726
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>all I heard it was black. No, I'm hearing auburn.

727
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Cal I'm like, what the hell is going on? It's strange, strange,

728
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>And do you wonder about that? I don't know, whatever

729
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 2>you would think auburn would actually blend in better? What

730
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on that? Here? A hunter, do you

731
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 2>think it would be harder to see an auburn colored

732
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot or a jet black bigfoot.

733
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Certainly in the autumn when the leaves are changing, it

734
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>would be perfect camouflage in this area here in North Carolina.

735
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 1>If I walked out right now and there was something

736
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that was cinnamon colored or auburn colored, it could blend

737
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in easily in the woods here because just about every

738
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>leaf is that reddish brown tint because they're changing and

739
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>they're falling off the trees. But in other times of

740
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>the year, yeah, it would probably even make sense then,

741
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 1>versus something that's just completely jet black, like a black

742
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>bear sticks out. If you see a black bear in

743
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the woods in the summer, everything's green

744
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and then boom, there's this big black mass.

745
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>It just sticks out.

746
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 1>So it would make sense to me that they would

747
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>probably be able to blend in a lot better if

748
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 1>they were something other than just jet black.

749
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 2>The batmm made a really interesting comment, Is it possible

750
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 2>our sun is a little stronger and these creatures are

751
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>getting bleached out? Who's to say she's wrong exactly? That

752
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

753
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Our hair changes, our skin tone changes. If the more

754
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>time you're expose to the sun.

755
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've always felt the sun is getting stronger myself.

756
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>It just goes grasping at straws. But I'd swear to God,

757
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing things get baked. Ropes on my dock get

758
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>disintegrated in two weeks. Sometimes nylon ropes. I've never seen

759
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.679
<v Speaker 2>that before. They get like hard as a rock and baked.

760
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I've seen those vinyl long window blinds, brain, I've seen

761
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>those getting baked like you put them up and they've

762
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>been on that course. Could be that cheaper materials are

763
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 2>being used nowadays. But I'm seeing more and more baked

764
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 2>plastic outside.

765
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's just cheap plastic. I don't think

766
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 1>the sun's getting shit. You could be right, But Daniel

767
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>says in the Chatty's talking about Scott Carpenter has a

768
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>picture of a white one. I've interviewed probably three people

769
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>out of five hundred episodes of the show that have

770
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>claimed to have seen a white sasquatch, and it seems

771
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 1>to be the ones that I recall immediately. I know

772
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 1>at least two out of the three that were in

773
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 1>the seventies when this happened, and they were in North Carolina. Actually,

774
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the witness that I'm thinking of in particular saw a

775
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>white one in the early seventies, early to mid seventies

776
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>here in North Carolina, and that makes no sense to me.

777
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatsoever a white creature here, I want to interrupt.

778
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Is this important? Otherwise I want to forget. If you

779
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>see infrared footage of a white bigfoot, chances are it's

780
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>fake fur, because any fake fur looks white under infrared

781
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>light at night. Nighttime footage white bigfoot because it's just

782
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the dyes produce a phosphorescent glow at night. I'm not

783
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 2>saying that white ones don't exist, but I'm always suspicious

784
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>at night when I see.

785
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Have you heard of white ones being seen in places?

786
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 3>But there's a lot of snow.

787
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Definitely not in North Carolina. Just a white bigfoot in

788
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>general doesn't make sense to me. It would have to

789
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>be some sort of a mutation. Then you think about,

790
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>how could a seven eight foot tall bipedal harry hominid

791
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 1>avoid detection even in the best of scenarios, if it

792
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 1>were completely white, it would be almost impossible to do. Again,

793
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 1>not saying it's not possible, but it would be highly

794
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>improbable that way.

795
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>So how clearly did they see the white ones?

796
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Apparently? Oh, he saw it very clearly.

797
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>He was probably thirty feet away with a group of friends.

798
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 1>They were teenagers out playing hide and seek in the woods.

799
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>This thing was standing thirty feet away from them, shaking

800
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a tree. It was pissed off. It was dark, but

801
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it was lit, so he could make it out pretty clearly.

802
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>According to him, it was definitely right. Someone said, an albino, Yeah,

803
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it would definitely have to be some sort of a mutation.

804
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I would think. Yeah, there's a lot of evidence of

805
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty much every mammal. It can be born with white

806
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>lack of pigment in there here. They don't even need

807
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to be an albino to be white. That's that. There's

808
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>another word. I can't think of it right now. We

809
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 2>showed that raven Alex, Remember that raven that was white? Yeah,

810
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 2>not an albino had blue eyes, so who knows. But

811
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>their hair is a little different. I studied all the

812
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 2>time because it's like it wants to tell me something.

813
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is, but it's definitely got

814
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>almost all of the ones I have, and the one

815
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I even collected up at Smell is hollow. Doesn't have

816
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that modulla inside, seems almost hollow inside, like a polar

817
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 2>bear hair. You wonder if the sunlight could effect and

818
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 2>bleach out a darker creature. What darker hair. If you

819
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>take a person with black hair and you add bleach

820
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to it, which stimulates sun, turns reddish. So there you go.

821
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.159
<v Speaker 2>All right, just solve the mystery. There you go, folks,

822
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 2>another topic, but it's one to think about. Everybody. Just

823
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 2>be aware. Auburn bigfoot seem to be more common. So

824
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 2>do you think that they're dangerous? What are your thoughts

825
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>on that? You think it's possible they are snatching a

826
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>hiker now and then or a person.

827
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 3>Like missing for on one? Do you think they're responsible

828
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of disappearances state parks, stuff like that?

829
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Are they responsible for any disappearance?

830
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's highly probable that they are. Because they

831
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 1>are animals. They're just like people. That's like saying, is

832
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it possible that people kill people? Yeah, yeah, tons of

833
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>people kill people every year. I think they're just like

834
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>people in that aspect. I think there could be rogue bigfoot,

835
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that could be hungry bigfoot.

836
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 3>It's not so much a regular thing, like not most

837
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 3>people aren't murderers, but obviously as a percentage there's violent people.

838
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say it's probably less probable that you're

839
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 1>going to have a run in with a bigfoot that's

840
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>going to drag you into the woods. Then you're going

841
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to run into a bad person who's going to give

842
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 1>you problems in the woods. But I certainly think again

843
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it's probable, because I think these things are animals, and

844
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 1>if they are as powerful as I think they are,

845
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point nine to eight percent of all the

846
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 1>encounter stories that we hear are very benign, right, They're

847
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>very mundane.

848
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Run of the day.

849
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I ran across them. They were running away from me.

850
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>They were trying to get away. They're trying to be unseen.

851
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That kind of thing. Only a few people here and

852
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>there you hear. These things are seeking out people. They're

853
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 1>looking in windows, they're right next to people in the woods,

854
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 1>They're coming up. They seem to be pushing the boundaries

855
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in some cases. Yeah, certainly, I think there's probably some

856
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>scenarios where people have not fared well against these things.

857
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you guys have had Fred roll on from Alaska.

858
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I feature a.

859
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Lot of the stories that's Red tells from Alaska. Just

860
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>about without fail, every type of encounter up there is

861
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 1>a negative one in that area. It seems to be

862
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 1>very isolated. It's not the expanse of all Alaska, but

863
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>there's this certain area that these things seem to be

864
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 1>very aggressive and territorial. I think that makes sense in

865
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cases. I think that they're probably protecting resources.

866
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>They're acting like a bear would. I think they're very similar.

867
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the best comparison that I can come up with

868
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in known animals to say they're probably very much like

869
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a black bear or a brain. They've got to protect

870
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 1>their resources. They're gonna protect their young, they're gonna protect

871
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>their territory if you cross the line and you don't

872
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>obey their warning signs. And I do think with sasquatch

873
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of warning signs. I think the

874
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 1>vocalizations are a warning sign. I think these woodknock noises,

875
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>whether they're made with vocal cords or their mouth or whatever,

876
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I think those are warnings. I certainly think rock throwing

877
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>is a warning. It's something that people need to pay

878
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>attention to. If you fail to do all of those

879
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>things and you keep encroaching, or you do the wrong things,

880
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 1>very much like a bear, you're gonna end up dead.

881
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a possibility with Bigfoot.

882
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>By the way that word Eric and Flat Rock, it's lucistic.

883
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Lucistic is a non albinome blonde genetic difference because I

884
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.199
<v Speaker 2>would think albinos would have more problem with their eyes

885
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>where lucistic animals do. Not makes sense. So thank you

886
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Eric and Rock.

887
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 1>God you have a smart audience. They're amazing.

888
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 3>They are incredible.

889
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just gonna leave it at that. They're smarter

890
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>than Alex. Doesn't I'm just kidding. Oh, I was gonna

891
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>mention too. And David, if you get a moment, Alex

892
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 2>send David a lank for tonight, and David towards the

893
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>end of the show tonight will play those sounds are

894
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>recording up at snell.

895
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, very cool.

896
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>If you hang on till I get a little deeper here,

897
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll play him. If David's willing, If he's still with us, Yeah,

898
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 2>there is, he's still here. I'm sure he'd be happy

899
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>to play those. This whole mystery is maddening, but it's

900
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 2>also I think certainly enhanced my life beyond I can't

901
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>even describe it. Don't you feel the same way, Brian.

902
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>We're a lot alike in that way that we work

903
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>full time on this. Don't you think it's enhanced your

904
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 2>life in a whole bunch of ways.

905
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, First and foremost, it is with the people that

906
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I have met because of this subject. I've said that

907
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 1>to you and Alex and Blaine it before. That's the

908
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>most important thing to me is the relationships that I've

909
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>built because of this. People that I would have never

910
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>met or have never gotten the pleasure of knowing and

911
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>calling friends happened.

912
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Because of the subject.

913
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, the people that I grew up entertained by or

914
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>fascinating by your work, Monster Quest, watching Cliff Kevin Bobo

915
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 1>on television, now being able to call people like that friends.

916
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing to have the resources just to reach out

917
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.559
<v Speaker 1>and brainstorm. We've done that in the past. You've called

918
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>me about things, I've called you about things I do

919
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that with Cliff. It is fascinating the things that you

920
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have known otherwise. This has just opened up so

921
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>many doors for me. And it truly always comes back

922
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 1>to the people. Being able to travel the world and

923
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>see the people that I've met connect over this subject

924
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to that just otherwise wouldn't have happened, has been amazing.

925
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what anybody says ninety nine point ninety

926
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>nine percent of everybody I've ever met, there's just amazing,

927
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>wonderful people. They are most people.

928
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Looting Brian, yes, but that's debatable. The jury still out

929
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on me. But everybody else that I have.

930
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Met has been fantastic. Yes, And I think the topic

931
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>brings people together. I'll ever forget it. When we were

932
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, some guy came into the buffet.

933
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.239
<v Speaker 2>He just yelled as lowsycuse. He goes, I'm finally with

934
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 2>my people. I thought, yeah, I get it.

935
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how I felt. We got to hang out

936
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>after the conference. It was phenomenal. Cliff called me up

937
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, man, are you coming to the Ohio

938
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Conference. I was like, no, I've never done it.

939
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 1>But he was like, come hang out with me when

940
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in my booth and we'll sell your books. Obviously, Cliff

941
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 1>wrote the forward to my book, so he was like,

942
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>come on, you'll sell books, and you can help me

943
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>with my booth and we'll hang out. I stood there

944
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 1>for eight hours, sandwiched between Cliff Barrickman and Matt Pruitt.

945
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I think my IQ went up like seventy five points

946
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that day, just standing between them. It was just through osmosis.

947
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It was freaking phenomenal. The people that came up to

948
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the booth, it's amazing. And we went and had dinner

949
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>afterwards and hung out. Mark does a fantastic job with that.

950
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing to go out and hang out with

951
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you guys the night before, just the conversation. I literally

952
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>stood there and talked to you, Alex and Blaine for

953
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 1>an hour or more and just had the best time.

954
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It was more.

955
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was way more folks, way more. It seemed

956
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 1>like only an hour because it was so much fun.

957
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was just an amazing experience. I felt

958
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 1>so connected to everybody. And where else can you do that.

959
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You're standing around jaw jacking with Doug Hijack, the Man,

960
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Alex himself, click Berrickman. You've got Jeff Meldrum milling around

961
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 1>eating a hot dog. It doesn't get any better than that.

962
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's all because of Bigfoot.

963
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing thing. Man, It's the best thing I've

964
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 2>ever done in my life. Oh I remember is I

965
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>had a few beers and all of a sudden, Marcos,

966
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to come in and sign two hundred banners,

967
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>which I'm sure you had to do.

968
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>You remember that was that before or after he was

969
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 1>doing his sarmiento?

970
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that was priceless. Yes, I think my

971
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 2>pants and Mark can do Esteban sermiantos.

972
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

973
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

974
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Estebon is such a great guy. I talked to him

975
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 2>the other day. I was asking him about the apricrine

976
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 2>glands under primate's armpits have a little different type of

977
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>land than we do, although we have some of those

978
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.079
<v Speaker 2>two but not the quantity. And I was asking him

979
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 2>whether would that substance that comes out of there, could

980
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that be spread on objects as a territorial marker. He

981
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.639
<v Speaker 2>hadn't really thought about it, but he goes, yeah, absolutely

982
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 2>smells I'm potent. And I'm like, okay, that's it. Goodbye.

983
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for sharing. Esteban.

984
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>What what do you think about the smell, Doug, Because

985
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that's something that when I first got into Bigfoot, that

986
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>was something that I thought was just synonymous with these things,

987
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 1>but it's really, in my experience, only been about fifteen

988
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 1>to twenty percent of the documented encounters. Do you think

989
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it's an environmental thing. Do you think it has to

990
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>do with this gland? What is your thoughts on where's

991
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the smell coming from.

992
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred percent convinced because of an experiment that

993
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>we ran that they can produce it at will. We

994
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 2>did something to irritate them, and we got sprayed. We

995
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>walked quarter a mile, did something to irritate them a

996
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit, got sprayed. I call it sprayed. But we

997
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>got a whole bunch of us together and did something

998
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>else and they stopped. We did that, I don't know

999
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>five times, and I've just got a little more convinced

1000
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.639
<v Speaker 2>that they can produce it at will because that was

1001
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.239
<v Speaker 2>my first experience with a big put sitting on a

1002
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.320
<v Speaker 2>deer stand, going out there in the middle of the night,

1003
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>really amazing area. Then the stink going from the most

1004
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 2>fresh area could ever smell to Oh my god, a

1005
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 2>dead zombie just walked into the scene. Much smell like

1006
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 2>rotten flesh, dog poop. Everything was just horrid. It's bad.

1007
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think, yeah, I think they produce it. I

1008
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>think they're actually very clean. I think they're extremely clean.

1009
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a smell that they just naturally

1010
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 2>have they do it when they're irritated.

1011
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I've always thought it was more at least maybe in

1012
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>some places like the Everglades, Florida, really humid places here

1013
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like in the southeastern United States, that it might be

1014
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>something that was more environmental because they're not necessarily bathing.

1015
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's stop right there. I spent ten days in the

1016
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:41.159
<v Speaker 2>jungles and belize I've never sweated so much in my life.

1017
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 2>On the summertime I was down there working for Discovery Channel,

1018
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I just kept jumping in the river. Pan who cares?

1019
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Just constantly jumping in the river every chance I got

1020
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.880
<v Speaker 2>jumped in the river because they will just refresh you.

1021
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I would think they spend a lot of time in

1022
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 2>the water, and they're actually quite clo No, I don't

1023
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 2>think I'd go over forty minutes without jumping in some

1024
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>river again or a creek just to stay fresh, felt cool,

1025
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>felt good. So I don't know, But yeah, I used

1026
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to think that too. I agree. I used to think, Yeah,

1027
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe they just think but who wants to feel irritated?

1028
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 2>You are when you be sweat. Do you think they're

1029
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 2>any different? It's just irritating sweat in your eyes? No,

1030
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that they swim a lot. I think they

1031
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.519
<v Speaker 2>take a lot of depth, and it's one reason they're

1032
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.679
<v Speaker 2>very close to water. Is that a question you ask

1033
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you that. If you don't, you should,

1034
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>But how far was the sighting from water?

1035
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not a typical thing that I ask during people's encounters,

1036
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but you're right, I should probably ask that more often.

1037
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 1>But it would make sense to your point that if

1038
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>they're able to produce that scent for whatever reason in

1039
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.559
<v Speaker 1>high stress situations, it would actually make more sense that

1040
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>was the case versus it being an environmental thing, because

1041
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 1>if it were simply environmentally, you'd think it would be

1042
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.599
<v Speaker 1>in more like eighty percent of the cases versus twenty percent,

1043
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 1>because most of the environments are the same when people

1044
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have these encounters. So yeah, maybe they're just not as stressed,

1045
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.599
<v Speaker 1>or they're not producing that smell, or it takes another

1046
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>level of encounter for them to do that. Then I

1047
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 1>guess that would make more sense.

1048
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you go from the freshest air in the world. Okay,

1049
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 2>here's a great story, try to make it really short.

1050
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 2>We were on horseback in the San Croz Valley, riding

1051
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 2>horses through We had ridden through this trail we were investigating.

1052
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I was filming, and everything's normal, the airs just as

1053
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 2>fresh as it could be. And then we're coming back

1054
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 2>on the same trail we'd already gone down, and now

1055
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 2>it stinks all Mike, we're just being blasted and we're

1056
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to ride a horse hold in your shirt pasture nos.

1057
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden we come across a coyote

1058
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 2>lane in the middle of the trail that had its

1059
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>back broken. It was very much alive. You could see

1060
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the handprints on it. You could literally it was very

1061
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.599
<v Speaker 2>it was blinking, it was alive, no blood, but its

1062
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>spine was clearly pulled apart, wow, snap and put there.

1063
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 2>So there was somebody that was I don't know if

1064
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you'd call it warning, trying to intimidate us to get

1065
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 2>out of there. I don't know. But those two things together,

1066
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 2>is that coincidence, Brian, I'm thinking probably not. Oh, and

1067
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>then a guy gets a rock thrown at him too,

1068
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the guys.

1069
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other level of totality of circumstances.

1070
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>So you just have to wonder. You have to go. Yeah,

1071
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.840
<v Speaker 2>but that smell was so bad, I named it doesn't

1072
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 2>caught on yet. But I call it putris scene because

1073
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.599
<v Speaker 2>that is a chemical that rotting corpse is given off.

1074
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's caused by bacteria that produced this sulfur like stinky.

1075
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 2>It's the smell of rotting flesh. And the actual chemical

1076
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:02.400
<v Speaker 2>name is putres scene. So I like to call the

1077
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 2>sauce squatch stained sasquatch futuracy. I think it's definitely just

1078
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.320
<v Speaker 2>chemical reaction that they're putting off, probably coming out of

1079
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 2>their pits or some other glands they may have in

1080
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>their body. But boy, it's bad.

1081
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It would make sense to get people to leave the area.

1082
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they could stand themselves, but.

1083
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Almost like a skunk, yeah exactly, Yeah they spread it

1084
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 3>or who knows, nothing wants to be around it.

1085
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.519
<v Speaker 2>But don't you think that'll be Okay, Let's say there

1086
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 2>was a big foot on the table and only I

1087
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 2>add it to in my garage. Let's just pretend Brian

1088
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and I call you up and I go, I got

1089
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot on my table. What questions do you ask me? Quickly?

1090
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Can I get a flight to Minnesota?

1091
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:52.480
<v Speaker 2>That would be well, okay, I get that, but what

1092
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 2>are you going to ask? So you get ten questions.

1093
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 2>What are you going to ask me? It's just laying there.

1094
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 2>I can do whatever I want to it. Let's say

1095
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 2>it's tranquilized, okay, would he ask me?

1096
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think the first thing I would say is

1097
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 1>have you taken fingerprints? Because that's the whole thing I've

1098
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>been doing recently. I'm actually going to put out an

1099
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:10.800
<v Speaker 1>episode of Sasquatch out to sy here in the next

1100
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks about the dermal ridges and some of

1101
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>those casts from back in the eighties with Paul Freeman,

1102
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not so convinced about the dermal ridge thing.

1103
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole another conversation for another day, but that

1104
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 1>would be the first.

1105
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Really. Yeah, but we all have friction ridges on our hands,

1106
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>our feet. We couldn't function without it. What's your take

1107
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>on it? Yeah, we want to hear it. Why do

1108
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>you think that something couldn't transfer those?

1109
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible to transfer them. I've read and

1110
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 1>seen other things about those dermal ridges possibly being some

1111
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 1>sort of effect from oh, a plaster exactly. I'm middle

1112
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of the road on that. Darryl Collier wrote an amazing

1113
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>article back in I think it was two thousand and

1114
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>seven that I read just recently goes in depth. He

1115
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 1>really is very convincing. When it comes to the dermal ridges.

1116
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.559
<v Speaker 1>There was that guy, his name escapes me. He actually

1117
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>went to several Bigfoot conferences with some faked dermal ridge cast.

1118
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 1>You probably know who I'm talking about. Does I think

1119
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 1>he was actually made Bigfoot of the Year, But he's

1120
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>still on those casts and Bigfoot times. But there were

1121
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.719
<v Speaker 1>artifacts that he was able to recreate that very much

1122
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>simulated those dermal ridges, So that would be the first question.

1123
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I would want to see the fingerprints from this thing.

1124
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 2>But here's the question. In order to get a dormal

1125
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>ridges and a cast, you have to first transfer that

1126
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>information into the soil. So you're gonna need a very

1127
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 2>fine volcanic ash. That's not gonna happen in sand. Friction

1128
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 2>ridges are too fine to ever be transferred into sand,

1129
00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>So it could happen with black dirt, maybe in mud,

1130
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>but I just don't think dirt of any kind is

1131
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be really good at transferring that type of detail.

1132
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.119
<v Speaker 2>But I've got a cast that definitely I think has

1133
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 2>plaster artifacts look like they could be dermals. But I

1134
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:08.280
<v Speaker 2>also have one from harry Ford track that in the middle.

1135
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 2>That's not a plaster artifact of no way. Most of

1136
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 2>those artifacts happen as expansion joints on the edge of

1137
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 2>a casting, not in the middle. You deal with those

1138
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>same kind of expansion joints in rubber and in plastic,

1139
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 2>any kind of material like that's going from soft to hard,

1140
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get those kind of things. So if you

1141
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>know what to look for, it's really not that big

1142
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of a deal. But what I'm interested are those waxy,

1143
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:43.920
<v Speaker 2>really detailed fingerprints that Angie has gotten down in Ohio.

1144
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Many other people have collected all over those really detailed

1145
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>waxy handprints. You cannot fake those. There's so much detail.

1146
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 2>You can see the microscopic sweatports if you photograph. There's

1147
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 2>no doubt these creatures have dermals. Every animal, everything born

1148
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 2>has got dermals on it.

1149
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to address something Digger Dog said about yeah,

1150
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>six or seven minutes ago. He's talking about apes can't

1151
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 1>swim and they retain their stink all the time. Apes

1152
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 1>actually can swim. Digger you listen to Sasquatch out to say,

1153
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>we had an primatologist on a while bine and we

1154
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 1>answered that question. They actually can't. Most apes don't get

1155
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>into deep water and actually swim because they don't like

1156
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.599
<v Speaker 1>dark water because of the possibility of crocodiles and other predators.

1157
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 1>But they are able to swim. Yeah, I guess my

1158
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.079
<v Speaker 1>second question for you would be this, I am fascinated

1159
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.360
<v Speaker 1>with the teeth of these creatures because you hear accounts

1160
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>about big blockie like these tic tac kind of blocky teeth.

1161
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 1>You also hear about pronounced canines, in some cases very

1162
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 1>sharp teeth when they bare their teeth. I would definitely

1163
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>want to see some photographs of the teeth.

1164
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I know you've heard them as well. Doug, Well, look

1165
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 2>at people. Some people have very pronounced canines, some people

1166
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have any. That doesn't mean much. Look at the

1167
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:05.440
<v Speaker 2>differences in people's mouths.

1168
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's regional?

1169
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're different subspecies?

1170
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I think subspecies. I think that's a bridge too far

1171
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 1>from me for these things, because again, it would indicate

1172
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that there's multiple species of these undiscovered hominids or hominoids.

1173
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't make sense to me. I think it

1174
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>could be a regional adaptation certainly, but how long does

1175
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it take for those to happen? Over the course of

1176
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.400
<v Speaker 1>these things evolving.

1177
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 3>We look at how different even just people are.

1178
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>But by and large, here's the thing. There are people

1179
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with more pronounced canines, but people there are don't typically

1180
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.840
<v Speaker 1>look like vampire Stracula.

1181
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't have Dracula.

1182
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Walking around bram Stoker's Dracula, the Interview of the Vampire Draculas,

1183
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever Dracula you're thinking of. By and large, people's teeth

1184
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 1>are very similar. If they're mains, whatever the case may be,

1185
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 1>they're blockier, they're human type teeth. So it's just fascinating

1186
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to me that some people say this thing bared its

1187
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.800
<v Speaker 1>teeth or growd and showed its teeth. They were very ominous.

1188
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that goes back to typically humans and eyewitnesses

1189
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.960
<v Speaker 1>are very fallible. You get into those situations, your high stress,

1190
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>your body's producing cortisol, you're on an adrenaline dump. Things

1191
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:25.519
<v Speaker 1>don't often look the same as they actually are. I've

1192
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:27.719
<v Speaker 1>said it recently on another podcast when I was a guest.

1193
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about how I don't think typically it

1194
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense for anything, even bigfoot sasquatch, to be

1195
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 1>twelve feet tall. That's not a common description, but I've

1196
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 1>heard it multiple times from people. This thing was twelve

1197
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 1>feet tall. We went back and measured the tree. Think

1198
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of Robert Wadlow. I think he still probably is one

1199
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of the tallest, if not the tallest, documented person on earth.

1200
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:56.320
<v Speaker 1>He walked with a cane since he was a teenager

1201
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:00.159
<v Speaker 1>because his body, the skeletal structure just wasn't built for

1202
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 1>that height and that weight. It just doesn't work anatomically.

1203
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:08.079
<v Speaker 3>So and he was only like nine feet.

1204
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Alex is going to be booking a kid that's got

1205
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 2>the biggest feet. They're like twenty four inches long. Wow,

1206
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and he's like almost eight He's like just crazy and

1207
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have any of those pituitary issues apparently. Really

1208
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 2>he's just naturally this big. I mean, Alex is working

1209
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 2>on getting them on our show. Super neat kid, super smart.

1210
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.599
<v Speaker 2>So there are cases of big people that are pretty athletic.

1211
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Good a moose, they have an handler's that go horizontally.

1212
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh the hell do they walk through the woods with

1213
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a nine foot span of horns when I can barely

1214
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 2>get through and I only I've only got eighteen inches

1215
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:51.679
<v Speaker 2>of profile.

1216
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 1>But I think what happens a lot of times and

1217
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>eyewitness testimony when it comes to encounters with bigfoot. I think,

1218
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 1>just my pain, I could be completely wrong here. I

1219
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 1>think these things are mostly between six and a half

1220
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 1>to seven and a half feet tall. I think it's

1221
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that syndrome where you go into a bar, you maybe

1222
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.480
<v Speaker 1>have one too many, you say something smart to the

1223
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.719
<v Speaker 1>guy next to you, you beat your ass, and you

1224
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.559
<v Speaker 1>go and tell your friends the next day, they're like, man,

1225
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:19.760
<v Speaker 1>how'd you get that black eye?

1226
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Man?

1227
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I got into it with the guy at the bar.

1228
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 2>He was huge.

1229
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.599
<v Speaker 1>He was six point seven and three hundred pounds, when

1230
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.559
<v Speaker 1>in the actuality, the guy who beat you up was

1231
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 1>five foot seven and weigh one hundred and twenty five pounds.

1232
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 1>He just happened to have a fourth degree black belt

1233
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 1>in taekwondo. All the things that went into that butt

1234
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 1>whooping that you got made you think he was six

1235
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.119
<v Speaker 1>foot seven and three hundred pounds. It's the same thing

1236
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 1>when you have experiences. I think in a lot of cases,

1237
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>when people have eyewitness experiences and encounters with these things,

1238
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 1>they may be six and a half feet tall, and

1239
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 1>then by the time you get home and tell the story,

1240
01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it was nine feet tall and it was eight hundred

1241
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.199
<v Speaker 1>and fifty pounds. No it might have actually been four

1242
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:05.199
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty, right, and stay tuned for more sasquatch

1243
01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 1>out to sea. We'll be right back after the east messages.

1244
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 2>My father in laws like over seven foot. My son

1245
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 2>in law is about seven foot. Both of them are

1246
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 2>extremely athletic, like really athletic. Look at Shack. He's a

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01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 2>prime example. I don't know. Yeah, Shack is, but he

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01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any problem. He didn't walk with a keene.

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01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 1>He's enormous, and he was a very athletic, successful basketball player.

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01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you can only imagine somebody had mentioned apes

1251
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:37.960
<v Speaker 2>don't swim. I don't think they're apes. They may have

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01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.400
<v Speaker 2>ape like qualities. Just because you have hair all over

1253
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you doesn't mean you're an ape. It really doesn't. If

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01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.079
<v Speaker 2>you take any of us and just covered us in hair,

1255
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.719
<v Speaker 2>we would look pretty ape like, right, It wouldn't look

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01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.559
<v Speaker 2>very human. I think they're more human than ape, but

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01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.920
<v Speaker 2>they definitely have a lot of hair that obviously aids

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01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.480
<v Speaker 2>in their survival, don't you agree, Brian, mosquito's biting you

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01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 2>on our bear of skin.

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01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:05.039
<v Speaker 1>The hair is the best defense against mosquitoes.

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01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I have really thick hair, and I don't remember ever

1262
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 2>getting bit in my scalp. Ever, I just don't because

1263
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.239
<v Speaker 2>they can't get through it all. Somebody said if I

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01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:16.760
<v Speaker 2>put my wig on, I'm like, no, I don't have

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01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.599
<v Speaker 2>a wig. They just got thick air. And now mosquito's

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01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 2>ever gotten through it either, So hair is a big protector.

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01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it was one of the questions I did

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01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you. How do you think they deal

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01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.840
<v Speaker 2>with parasites. I don't know anything about Georgia or North

1270
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Carolina or in those states as far as wood ticks,

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01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.079
<v Speaker 2>because I've never gotten one there, but I know in

1272
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota you can walk ten feet and be covered with

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01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of them. Do you have any ideas and how

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01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:47.320
<v Speaker 2>they deal with the parasites, mosquitoes, wood ticks?

1275
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 1>We have tons of ticks during the summer here in

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01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina.

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01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.840
<v Speaker 2>You go out, you walk the dog, do you though,

1278
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, explain it to us, because I'm just not

1279
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:57.480
<v Speaker 2>familiar with it. How bad are they?

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01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty bad in the summer. We have three dogs,

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01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and every time I will go out and walk the dogs,

1282
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:03.280
<v Speaker 1>we bring them in and we try to brush them

1283
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and make sure they don't have any ticks on them.

1284
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.679
<v Speaker 1>I've gone to bed after taking a shower and getting

1285
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 1>ready for bed at night and you fill something crawling

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01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on you and it's a tick. So they're everywhere in

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01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the South. But I think the best defense against that

1288
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 1>is the hair number one. But ticks don't care about hair.

1289
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But the best thing that you can do is have

1290
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a thumb right, because you can pick the ticks off

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01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of you. Dogs don't have the ability to do that.

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01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Cats don't have the ability. Other animals don't have the

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01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:31.280
<v Speaker 1>ability to do that. So if it were a tick situation,

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01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.400
<v Speaker 1>they would be able to just take them off just

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01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like we would, right they have the meat, or exactly.

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01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:38.719
<v Speaker 2>They would groom each other.

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01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine exactly, very similar to chimps, guerrillas, and

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01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:45.119
<v Speaker 1>other primates that we see known animals. Yeah, I think

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01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the other question, like internal parasites and eating things

1300
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>and drinking water that may not be the cleanest and

1301
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:52.159
<v Speaker 1>dealing with those kind of things. I think it would

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01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 1>be very much like indigenous people or people who live

1303
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.639
<v Speaker 1>off the land. Now you use natural herbs, they would

1304
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:00.039
<v Speaker 1>be very familiar with what to eat for them, this

1305
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>ailment and that ailment. That's my opinion. I think they

1306
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 1>would be smart enough to do that and use what

1307
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 1>was at their disposal naturally to deal with maybe those

1308
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:10.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of parasites. Maybe there's even something they could rub

1309
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 1>on themselves that would act as a deterrent for ticks

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01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and mosquitoes.

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01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 2>In fact, that was one of the questions I forgot

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01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 2>to bring up. I asked Estabon about gland secretions because

1313
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.239
<v Speaker 2>there was a new scientific paper that says they take

1314
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.800
<v Speaker 2>it from their pits and they rub it on their

1315
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 2>bare skin and it helps soften their skin, keep it

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01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 2>protected and protects against insects. And I went, ooh, that's

1317
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a pretty new scientific paper. It's under a year old.

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01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I asked Testabon about that, and he said, one, gorillas

1319
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.399
<v Speaker 2>generally will try to bend down in areas where there

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01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 2>isn't mosquitoes, there are less ticks, but that this gland

1321
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:54.920
<v Speaker 2>secretion really could help repel Maybe that could explain why

1322
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:58.199
<v Speaker 2>they have switched a junk on their hands, is maybe

1323
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:03.079
<v Speaker 2>they're spreading it on them to repel insects. I don't know.

1324
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:06.680
<v Speaker 2>It's whole bunch of diarrhea theories, but it makes sense.

1325
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.119
<v Speaker 2>If it makes sense, are it's definitely worth exploring. But

1326
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:12.880
<v Speaker 2>do you ponder would you wonder about crap like that,

1327
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I do stay awake at night going I wonder

1328
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.800
<v Speaker 2>how do they keep their butt clean? How do they

1329
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 2>trim their fingernails? Do they chew their fingernails off? Do

1330
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 2>they just wear off? Do they have really long, ugly fingernails?

1331
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever wonder about that?

1332
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the old what was it? Saturday Night Live?

1333
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Things that make you.

1334
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Go See, I was wondering if you know about the

1335
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:37.840
<v Speaker 2>big foot of my garage, because to me, I would

1336
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 2>be like looking at its eyes and I'd be like

1337
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:44.159
<v Speaker 2>looking at its ears and trying to really look at

1338
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 2>physiology in these things.

1339
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be fascinating to me, because I tell

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01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 1>you one of the things that has stuck out to

1341
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:52.000
<v Speaker 1>me over the years. So many times I've talked to

1342
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.800
<v Speaker 1>people that have told me about the self luminescent eyes.

1343
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1344
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And I can't get into a whole lot of detail.

1345
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I won't even wait into the world because I'm under

1346
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>an ndaight and I can't really talk about some of

1347
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the experiences I've had recently because of the documentary I'm

1348
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:09.680
<v Speaker 1>involved in. Okay, I've had experiences that would push me

1349
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.359
<v Speaker 1>in the direction of being more open to the fact

1350
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that people are seeing self luminescent eyes. I have a

1351
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 1>zero explanation for that, because I always thought it was

1352
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of hooey, or there was something else going on,

1353
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 1>some other phenomenon or something that they were missing. But

1354
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I tell you there's something to it. It makes no

1355
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.239
<v Speaker 1>sense to me whatsoever. Physiologically, there's nothing that makes sense

1356
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:34.319
<v Speaker 1>about it. But people are having that experience. I don't

1357
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 1>know what to make of that.

1358
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it makes perfect sense. Here's why humans are

1359
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the only mammals that have self illuminating cells in our eyes.

1360
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 2>We have some leftover in our eyes. We have six

1361
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 2>in each eye, leftover that produce light. And they've now

1362
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.720
<v Speaker 2>photographed it. They can see it. They go into these

1363
01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.680
<v Speaker 2>super dark rooms and they put in the act can

1364
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>see the illumination coming off our eyes. So let's go

1365
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:08.880
<v Speaker 2>back one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, a million years.

1366
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It may be just a trait that we lost. We

1367
01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:19.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know whether Neanderthals had self eliminating eyes, right, we

1368
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have any of their flash. Really, we don't have

1369
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:27.159
<v Speaker 2>these little protein cells. When nature there's plenty of bioluminescence

1370
01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:31.279
<v Speaker 2>in protein cells. It does happen. Look at squid. If

1371
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:32.319
<v Speaker 2>bacteria can.

1372
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Do it, so can bigfoot. Damn it.

1373
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:38.840
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things I'm not that puzzled over, actually,

1374
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:44.520
<v Speaker 2>only because every time I think, oh, that's really a

1375
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 2>weird thing. But then you read a scientific report about

1376
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 2>humans producing light out of their eyes, and I'm like, eh,

1377
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense too. Maybe picture us, maybe when we

1378
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 2>had little LEDs. How handy would that be if we

1379
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.039
<v Speaker 2>could project a dim light out of her eyes in

1380
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:03.560
<v Speaker 2>the dark.

1381
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you it is very freaky to see him.

1382
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.239
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen them

1383
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:10.560
<v Speaker 1>all life.

1384
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I saw it one time, but from Afar. I saw

1385
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 2>a group of individuals with reddish orange chloeing eyes. You

1386
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>can see them blinking and moving around. I had to

1387
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 2>actually use my binoculars to witnesses, which was like, WHOA

1388
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 2>very cool, especially when you see them blink. But did

1389
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I see a family have bigfoots doing it? I think

1390
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>it was. I don't know what else could have done.

1391
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I would definitely never doubt those stories again ever.

1392
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the orb thing. Have you ever seen

1393
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:44.560
<v Speaker 2>orbs on your property?

1394
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Brian, No orbs never? No, not here I've experienced orbs.

1395
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I had this thing with orbs. They tend to follow me.

1396
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got tons of photos with me and just family

1397
01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:58.960
<v Speaker 1>situations in different places with orbs, that kind of weird thing,

1398
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but never on the property.

1399
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, we were at snow and there was no

1400
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 2>less probably than sixteen scene summer right out the window.

1401
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>One came into the cabin, was seen by one of

1402
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the guys in the cabin, but everybody saw red orbs

1403
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:13.319
<v Speaker 2>but me.

1404
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.600
<v Speaker 1>We've had so many strange light things going on here

1405
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 1>on the property, but never orbs. We have woken up

1406
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.279
<v Speaker 1>several times in the house here and the entire outside

1407
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 1>of the woods area and inside of the house would

1408
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.640
<v Speaker 1>be illuminated with just bright white light. Then it just

1409
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.920
<v Speaker 1>goes out as quickly as it started white, like a

1410
01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:37.439
<v Speaker 1>spotlight from almost just a spotlight from above. Yes, just

1411
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 1>really strange. The first time we ever experienced it was

1412
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>we were in the hot tub. It's probably four years

1413
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 1>ago at this point. We had a hot tub off

1414
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the front of the deck. That's when we first started

1415
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.720
<v Speaker 1>hearing the vocalizations. We were outside in the hot tub,

1416
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:51.840
<v Speaker 1>but the light thing happened. We have two driveways on

1417
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 1>the property, the driveway that leads directly up to the

1418
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.920
<v Speaker 1>house that we don't even use. We had this light

1419
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Speaker 1>traveling towards us, like over the back of the house,

1420
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.399
<v Speaker 1>and it was lighting up the entire area. No sound,

1421
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:06.680
<v Speaker 1>no nothing. Then it gets right over the house, right

1422
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:08.800
<v Speaker 1>before it would come to where we could possibly see

1423
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.720
<v Speaker 1>what was making the light happen or the source of

1424
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the light. It just goes out, it's gone. We've had

1425
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that multiple times, as recently as probably three months ago.

1426
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 1>We woke up in the middle of the night. We

1427
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:23.079
<v Speaker 1>sleep upstairs in the loft and it's surrounded by windows.

1428
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>It looks like when you look out the windows, like

1429
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you're sleeping out in the woods.

1430
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So how bright would you say? It is?

1431
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, very bright enough to light up the entire area

1432
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.439
<v Speaker 1>outside of the house. It's almost like daylight inside the house.

1433
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It's so bright. We wake up and it just goes out.

1434
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:42.439
<v Speaker 1>It's gone. There's no sound, there's nothing. It's the weirdest thing.

1435
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't driving with the event one time we were

1436
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I saw it. One time we were driving home in

1437
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:53.319
<v Speaker 2>a very heavily wooded area, no businesses, no nothing. All

1438
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden we saw this big spotlight come from

1439
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.479
<v Speaker 2>nowhere and light up this tree like daytime. And it

1440
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.560
<v Speaker 2>lasted a few seconds and then it was gone. WHOA

1441
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.279
<v Speaker 2>what was that. It's a weird situation.

1442
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:11.279
<v Speaker 1>If you follow me on Instagram bigfoot bks on Instagram,

1443
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I have posted an aerial topographical map area of the

1444
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.560
<v Speaker 1>area around my house, you can see what it looks like.

1445
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing so there's no light source. We have

1446
01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.560
<v Speaker 1>no light pollution out here. Our nearest neighbor is almost

1447
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a mile away. There's no explanation for this light. It's

1448
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.680
<v Speaker 1>not a helicopter. They're not searching for a missing person

1449
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.560
<v Speaker 1>over the house. There's none of that. It's just this weird.

1450
01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Well you'd you're a helicopter.

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01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, Yeah, I have no idea, man, I have

1452
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:40.800
<v Speaker 1>no idea.

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01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1454
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's something alien, I don't know if it's something paranormal.

1455
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's disconcerting. It's a weird thing. What's happening here? Where's

1456
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.640
<v Speaker 1>this light coming from? Why does it happen? Multiple times?

1457
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:55.079
<v Speaker 1>It's probably happened, I'd say over the last three to

1458
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.000
<v Speaker 1>four years, probably five times. We've had work.

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01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I've talked to you. A friend of mine who had

1460
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>that happen. It really scared him and his wife, but

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01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it was bright Green. He live in the woods too,

1462
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:14.479
<v Speaker 2>but like Chartrue's type, Green just lit it up and

1463
01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 2>freaked them out really bad. Yeah, it's a scary thing, man.

1464
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to make of it. Huh. You

1465
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 2>don't think it has anything to do with the other

1466
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:27.119
<v Speaker 2>topics you're into, do you think? Yeah? I always wonder

1467
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:33.079
<v Speaker 2>what seems Bigfoot researchers do have more experiences like that.

1468
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.039
<v Speaker 1>It's something that's come up over and over in conversations

1469
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:38.760
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years. Somebody asked me recently.

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01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I was a guest on another podcast, and they said,

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01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.279
<v Speaker 1>do you think if you have some kind of an experience,

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01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like a Bigfoot experience or UFO experience or whatever experience

1473
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in the paranormal realm, are you more likely? Are you

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01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.520
<v Speaker 1>marked in a way to have more experiences? My answer

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01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 1>was no, I don't think so. I think that would

1476
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.760
<v Speaker 1>imply that there's some greater force that's at hand and

1477
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>manipulating something to make that person more likely to have

1478
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:06.720
<v Speaker 1>those I think it's just as simple as when you

1479
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:10.039
<v Speaker 1>open yourself up to those experiences. I've had UFO experiences

1480
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I've lived in a haunted house. I've had in some

1481
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.960
<v Speaker 1>cases I think demonic probably some sort of even borderline

1482
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 1>poultry geist activity in the houses I was in as

1483
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:24.319
<v Speaker 1>a kid, I've had bigfoot experiences. All of those things together,

1484
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I think you're just more open to those experiences. And

1485
01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I think anytime you open up yourself to believe those

1486
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:34.600
<v Speaker 1>things and believe your own experiences, you're more likely to

1487
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 1>be sensitive to those things. But I think it's just

1488
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>as simple, as I've said it many times. I think

1489
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that UFO experiences I've had as recently as October of

1490
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.720
<v Speaker 1>last year up in Radium when we had two hours,

1491
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we watched multiple UFOs while we were out looking for bigfoot.

1492
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing bigfoot happening. It was all about UFOs. But

1493
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I had those experiences is because I

1494
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.279
<v Speaker 1>was looking up right. It's the same thing in the wood.

1495
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't find treatment break, so you don't find footprints,

1496
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.039
<v Speaker 1>or you don't find these other things unless you're looking

1497
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.319
<v Speaker 1>for it. So I think it's less woo, and I

1498
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's less high strangeness and more of just being.

1499
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Open to it and being outside.

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01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Now, that doesn't account for the woods lighting up in

1501
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night at three in the morning.

1502
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:18.960
<v Speaker 3>But do you think it's also you're out in the

1503
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 3>woods where there's not all this light pollution, that you're

1504
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.279
<v Speaker 3>gonna notice UFOs, you know, because you actually see them.

1505
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I've seen quite a few. You Just sitting

1506
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>out on my deck at night looking up, we see

1507
01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:33.560
<v Speaker 1>some weird things flying over. I think it makes it

1508
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:36.479
<v Speaker 1>easier for you to see that, obviously, than if you're

1509
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:38.159
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of New York. It's going to be

1510
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:39.199
<v Speaker 1>more difficult to cry.

1511
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever think, Brian, that your presence is being

1512
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 2>broadcast out into space? Literally? Think about it? Could Have

1513
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you ever thought about that your public and your imagine

1514
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 2>your voice is being broadcast out through satellites and oft

1515
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:56.119
<v Speaker 2>into forever it knows.

1516
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I had a lady on the show about about two

1517
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and a half years ago, maybe two years ago. She

1518
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was very much into the UFO thing. It was a

1519
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>very odd interview. She had a lot of weird experiences.

1520
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.079
<v Speaker 1>She claimed to communicate with quite a few alien beings

1521
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>from other galaxies. After the interview ended, we talked like

1522
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you normally do with your guest. I was a great interview.

1523
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for coming on. And she was like,

1524
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you. The Plebeians are telling me

1525
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 1>that they want to start giving you downloads while you

1526
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.319
<v Speaker 1>sleep at night because they like the work that you're doing.

1527
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 1>They like your approach to these things. They feel like

1528
01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>they can give you knowledge that will help further and

1529
01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:42.319
<v Speaker 1>advance other people's knowledge. If you're willing to accept those downloads,

1530
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:44.600
<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is say I accept it.

1531
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And of course I said, of course I accept it.

1532
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Tell them to start download and I'm ready.

1533
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1534
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 1>She was like, you may get some downloads, you might

1535
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.079
<v Speaker 1>get a headache here and there, and those kind of things.

1536
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.199
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm still waiting on the downloads. I don't

1537
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>know that I've been getting them. Maybe the lights are

1538
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>coming to give me the downloa, I don't know.

1539
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Don't you agree? Our earth that we live on is

1540
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:10.079
<v Speaker 2>so magical and so mysterious and just complicated, and yet

1541
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it's all this amazing harmony too.

1542
01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a fascinating place. People are fascinating, Their experiences

1543
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.560
<v Speaker 1>are fascinating. That's why I'm open to everything, man. I

1544
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:21.640
<v Speaker 1>love to talk to people about all their experiences. I

1545
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>don't just keep it to the flesh and blood camp

1546
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Bigfoot, I love to hear again.

1547
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Durin's episode's going to air on Friday on Sasquatch Odyssey.

1548
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:34.920
<v Speaker 1>She thinks Bigfoot's coming into her house when she's sleeping

1549
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and she's finding footprints in her carpet. She sent me

1550
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:39.079
<v Speaker 1>pictures that look pretty compelling.

1551
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:42.359
<v Speaker 2>We were talking earlier before we brought you on about

1552
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>plants that can mimic a fake plant. You put a

1553
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 2>fake plant next to you a real plant, and it'll

1554
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:51.720
<v Speaker 2>try to mimic it. Think about a forest, the intelligence

1555
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.520
<v Speaker 2>it must be in a forest, and you're forty acres

1556
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:58.119
<v Speaker 2>that you own. Do you ever feel like you're amongst

1557
01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:01.920
<v Speaker 2>other intelligence when you walk through the forest. What does

1558
01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:05.279
<v Speaker 2>a forest judio? And why did you buy that forty acres?

1559
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I wholeheartedly bought this forty acres hoping that there might

1560
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>be some kind of Bigfoot activity on. We always wanted

1561
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:14.159
<v Speaker 1>to live in the woods. We wanted to be as

1562
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:17.079
<v Speaker 1>self sufficient as possible. We lived off grid for a

1563
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 1>year and a half on our property. I've talked about

1564
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that on other shows in the past. That's an entire show.

1565
01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>But when you get that close to nature and you

1566
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:30.039
<v Speaker 1>remove yourself from all of the other things that normal

1567
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>people deal with every day, electronics, electricity. We had solar,

1568
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:37.720
<v Speaker 1>but that was it. But we bought the property hoping

1569
01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that there could possibly be some activity because of the

1570
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:43.359
<v Speaker 1>area that we're in. We're surrounded by nothing but woods.

1571
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Over the years, I've certainly felt at times that you

1572
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.319
<v Speaker 1>walk around. We talked a little bit about it earlier,

1573
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>having that really ominous feeling, but there's plenty of times

1574
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's happened to me recently a couple of times, I

1575
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.159
<v Speaker 1>think I talked about it on one show when I

1576
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>was a guest. Recently, I've never had this happen before,

1577
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:04.079
<v Speaker 1>but I had this really weird horse kind of smell.

1578
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Horses smell very distinct right If you've ever been around horses,

1579
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they have a very distinct smell. It smelled like a

1580
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:14.479
<v Speaker 1>wet horse slash wet dog smell. Recently, I had this

1581
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:19.239
<v Speaker 1>very overwhelming feeling that something was watching me while I

1582
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.319
<v Speaker 1>was walking the dogs. The dogs were acting a little

1583
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>weird that were running off and sniffing. I still don't

1584
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, but I had this feeling that

1585
01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in the presence of something greater than I

1586
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was a big cat. I don't think

1587
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a bear. We have both of those things

1588
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>on the property. We've seen sign of both of those

1589
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.159
<v Speaker 1>over the years, but it seemed to be more. I

1590
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 1>can't prove that it was just a feeling, but that's

1591
01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:45.039
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I love about walking through the

1592
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>woods here is you do feel that deeper connection to

1593
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>things that maybe you can't see or perceive with your

1594
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:56.399
<v Speaker 1>regular senses that seemed to somehow make contact with you.

1595
01:22:56.439 --> 01:23:00.039
<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense. In other ways and other feelings.

1596
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.319
<v Speaker 2>The term forest bathing, I'm sure have you heard that term.

1597
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>They've done studies now they find it has huge health

1598
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>benefits being in the woods, even for a few minutes

1599
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:11.479
<v Speaker 2>a day.

1600
01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like grinding. I mean, I very much believe

1601
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in grounding walking around barefoot. Danny does that a lot

1602
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on the property. I'm not at that point. I can't

1603
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.079
<v Speaker 1>walk barefoot through the woods. I try to do some

1604
01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. But I think it's very important to

1605
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 1>connect with nature. I think it connects you and grounds

1606
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you literally with your surroundings. There's definitely something to be

1607
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>said about it.

1608
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, you got to do if you want to

1609
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>prove it to yourself. Take a wire. Run it from

1610
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:39.479
<v Speaker 2>your ground wire, run it in and hook it to

1611
01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:43.000
<v Speaker 2>some flowers you buy at the store that are cut

1612
01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 2>like cut roses. Put the ground wire in there, and

1613
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>then do another vase without the ground wire. The plants

1614
01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>with a ground wire will survive like four or five

1615
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>times longer. A lot of people are putting ground wires

1616
01:23:57.199 --> 01:23:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to their bed.

1617
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of that recently on social media,

1618
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 1>people making those posts about being grounded at night.

1619
01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I could easily believe that the earth is got to

1620
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>have so much energy. Just because you don't feel it

1621
01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:14.239
<v Speaker 2>instantly when you touch it, you're not getting jolded, doesn't

1622
01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>mean there's not energy there. I have a feeling that

1623
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the discoveries are just gonna keep coming in to get

1624
01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:24.199
<v Speaker 2>weirder and weirder sounding. But no, I think that's an

1625
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 2>important thing.

1626
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I went over a couple of months ago and spoke

1627
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>at a conference over in the United Kingdom. We spent

1628
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>about five days in London before we went out to

1629
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the country area. We were out in Somerset Bridgewater area

1630
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>for the conference, and I felt it there. That was

1631
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the longest time in the last five or six years

1632
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that I've spent in a city around that many people.

1633
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:49.079
<v Speaker 1>London is packed with tourists, especially during the summer, there's

1634
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of people. You're crammed packed with people.

1635
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I felt so off that entire week. Then when I

1636
01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.239
<v Speaker 1>came back, I was only here for four or five days,

1637
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and I had to go to another speaker engagement. I

1638
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>had to hop on a plane and fly somewhere else.

1639
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:05.479
<v Speaker 1>But just being back in the woods for those three

1640
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>or four days and being able to reconnect with nature

1641
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was huge, And I could feel a huge energy shift

1642
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>from spending time in the city versus being here on

1643
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the property, removed from all that. It recharges your batteries,

1644
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>is the best way I can describe it as being

1645
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>here in this environment. It's just a refreshing, recharging thing.

1646
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And there's something to the energy and the vibe of

1647
01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>being in the woods versus being in the city. For me.

1648
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's shift before we go home. We've got a

1649
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>few more few minutes here. But I wanted to hear

1650
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>about your book. Why you decided to write a book.

1651
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of it has to do with

1652
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:43.279
<v Speaker 2>your property. Both suddenly made you go, ahnd when I

1653
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>write a book, what was the motivation?

1654
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have thought about writing a book for so

1655
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>many reasons in the past. Most of it has been

1656
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the journey that I've had through Bigfoot. But I really

1657
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to write the book because I felt it was

1658
01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:02.279
<v Speaker 1>important at this time, because I wanted to do something

1659
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that did two things. I wanted somebody that was just

1660
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>getting into the subject to be able to pick up

1661
01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the book and go, Okay, here's a little bit of

1662
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>everything to do with the Bigfoot phenomenon. Because there's so

1663
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>much to cover, right there's history of Bigfoot. I wanted

1664
01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to tell a little bit about my story because people

1665
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>have been fascinated with that since I started the show.

1666
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:25.239
<v Speaker 1>So I start there. I talk a little bit about

1667
01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>how my journey in this began. Then I talk about

1668
01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the phenomenon of Sasquatch in general. I talk about Bigfoot

1669
01:26:32.079 --> 01:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and pop culture. We get into some of the hoaxes.

1670
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the things that's very important

1671
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. There have been some giant hoaxes that

1672
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I think have set back research decades in some cases,

1673
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So I talk a little bit about that. I talk

1674
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>about some of my journey up to Radium last year

1675
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:51.039
<v Speaker 1>and some of the research that I did up there.

1676
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I get into paradolia, which I think is huge in

1677
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>the community nowadays. If you go into any bigfoot group

1678
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, tons of pictures of sticks and leaves and trees.

1679
01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to people to understand a little bit

1680
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>about paradolia. I get into the scientific method. That's not

1681
01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>big and sexy and beautiful, but I think it's very

1682
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>important for people to understand what the scientific method is

1683
01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and how we can apply it as citizen scientists going

1684
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods and looking for these things.

1685
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to.

1686
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Talk about where the bodies are. That's some of the

1687
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>things that people like me, I'm skeptical. I've always been skeptical.

1688
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Skeptics always go to where are the bodies? Why don't

1689
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>we have a body? I talk about that in the book.

1690
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I write an entire chapter about that. I wanted to

1691
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>dig into my background as a police officer, in my

1692
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>experience in law enforcement and kind of tie that into

1693
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the research because that's an important part of how I

1694
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>approach the research and this subject in general. So I

1695
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.199
<v Speaker 1>wrote an entire chapter called can we convict Sasquatch in

1696
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a Court of law? Meaning can we convict sasquatch? If

1697
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they were on hypothetical trial for existing. Is there enough

1698
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.079
<v Speaker 1>evidence to convict them? And I say there is spoiler alert.

1699
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's enough evidence out there to say

1700
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that Sasquatch exists. So it was important for me to

1701
01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>do something. In my opinion, I wanted to write a

1702
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>book that if somebody had never really gotten into the

1703
01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:12.079
<v Speaker 1>subject that could pick it up and go, oh, that's interesting,

1704
01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe they would take it a little bit further and

1705
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>go that direction. Or if somebody had been in the

1706
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>subject for a couple of decades and looking into it,

1707
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe I would approach something a little bit differently than

1708
01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>they had thought about it in the past, or maybe

1709
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a different way that they had looked at it. That's

1710
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>why I wrote a chapter on high strangeness and habituation,

1711
01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:33.479
<v Speaker 1>skepticism in general, and how important that is. There's a

1712
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit of everything in there for everybody. So whether

1713
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:39.079
<v Speaker 1>you've been into it for twenty years, maybe there's something

1714
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:41.439
<v Speaker 1>that you haven't looked at the same way, or maybe

1715
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:43.079
<v Speaker 1>you haven't thought about it a certain way that it

1716
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>would be in the book. If you're just getting into

1717
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the subject. It's a breakdown of how it started, how

1718
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:51.399
<v Speaker 1>long it's been out there, the history pop culture, how

1719
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.079
<v Speaker 1>that experience affects the Bigfoot phenomenon in general.

1720
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:59.279
<v Speaker 2>You have also personal recordings and video and audio in here.

1721
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the IBT, the interactive book technology that you guys

1722
01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>have incorporated at Hanger One is amazing. There's hours of

1723
01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.279
<v Speaker 1>video from my time here on the property Radium, BC, Canada,

1724
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the most beautiful places I've ever been doing research.

1725
01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You get to be on the trail with us while

1726
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.079
<v Speaker 1>we're doing that at some phenomenal stuff that you can't

1727
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>get anyone else.

1728
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'll love your cover.

1729
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Whoever did it is incredible art.

1730
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Who in the hell did that? Alex?

1731
01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any idea that book cover? We kind

1732
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of say it, but thank you all jokes aside. I

1733
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 1>have said this so many times on my show, and

1734
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I've said it so many times privately to you guys,

1735
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.159
<v Speaker 1>but I want to take a second and just say

1736
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:42.239
<v Speaker 1>it publicly. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

1737
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after the East messages. You guys

1738
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>are the reason that this book happened. If it had

1739
01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:54.239
<v Speaker 1>not been for you guys and the amazing job that

1740
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys do at Hanger One. You have been a

1741
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal You have been a huge support for me in

1742
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the book and all of your authors. Frankly, you guys

1743
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>are beyond the best in the business as far as

1744
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned. There are tons and tons of books on

1745
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hanger one Publishing website by phenomenal authors like Tom Powell.

1746
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>There's so many. We're actually doing a series right now

1747
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>where we're interviewing tons of authors from the Hanger One

1748
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Publishing family, and we're going to do an entire series

1749
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>on Sasquatch Outs. So that's coming for you guys, And

1750
01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>there's some phenomenal people, some amazing books.

1751
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:28.479
<v Speaker 2>But Alex and.

1752
01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Doug and Blaine, you guys do a phenomenal job with everything.

1753
01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>We've had a very symbiotic relationship, which has been cool.

1754
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Been great working with you.

1755
01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:37.640
<v Speaker 4>Brian.

1756
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just weird when you're here on our show. It

1757
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>just feels like we could just bullshit all night, man,

1758
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:48.159
<v Speaker 2>all night. We need to bullshit more. We used to

1759
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:51.199
<v Speaker 2>do a lot more of that back when we first

1760
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:55.399
<v Speaker 2>started talking and years ago. Oh, we need to get

1761
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:58.159
<v Speaker 2>back to some of that just calling and just shoot

1762
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the crap. I definitely agree. I really enjoy Yeah, you've

1763
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>always got so many cool stories. What is your best

1764
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>besides getting this book? And what I love about it is,

1765
01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like you said, it's the whole gamut, and it's really

1766
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>good for somebody who just losting it to the truth

1767
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and do it in a way where it's not going

1768
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>to bore the hell out of you. But your podcast

1769
01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>is very successful because you've just been at it for

1770
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>so long and you have so many great witnesses. Is

1771
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>there one story that almost gives you shivers? Thinking about it?

1772
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Is like hard to get out of your brain when

1773
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you see a good movie and it's powerful and it's

1774
01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:40.399
<v Speaker 2>hard to shake it off afterwards. Do you have one

1775
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:43.439
<v Speaker 2>story that you can remember that it's just it's hard

1776
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to shake off? Are they all that way?

1777
01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I think every single one in their own way is

1778
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:53.159
<v Speaker 1>very much like that. But there's one that always comes

1779
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>back to me is Dan who was hunting moose or

1780
01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>elk and this happened?

1781
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Probably? Okay, stop? Do you have an episode number that

1782
01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>people can listen to it after?

1783
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to google it while I'm talking.

1784
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Tell you what? Can you send it to Alex tomorrow?

1785
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll put it in the show in tomorrow. I definitely

1786
01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>will yeah, I check out this episode.

1787
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but in a nutshell, Basically, Dan and his dad

1788
01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>were out on a fourteen day moose or el khunt.

1789
01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think they might have had tags for both. Long

1790
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:23.439
<v Speaker 1>story short, he's out in the woods. His dad goes

1791
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to a different area. He goes to another area and

1792
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he's hunting and he hears wood knocks and he was

1793
01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:32.359
<v Speaker 1>very interested in the wood KNOCKX Right, that's a weird thing.

1794
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He's never heard that before in the woods. So he

1795
01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>goes towards where these wood knocks are coming from. And

1796
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>every time he goes a little bit, he stops like

1797
01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not making any forward progress. The woodknocks happened again,

1798
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so it continues forward. He keeps going. This goes on.

1799
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>His episode's one of the longest on Sasquatch outess. It's

1800
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>probably an hour and a half or so because he

1801
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:56.359
<v Speaker 1>goes through everything and find minute detail. That was a

1802
01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>very calculated thing for him. That was his plan because

1803
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:02.239
<v Speaker 1>he had old parts of the story to his wife,

1804
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>his dad, and he went on another podcast a couple

1805
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of years before he came on my show, but he

1806
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>had never told.

1807
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>The entire story all the way through. So he does

1808
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>that on my show.

1809
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>So he's very detailed, but long story short, he ends

1810
01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>up coming twenty feet or so away from this huge

1811
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch that steps out from behind this tree. He gets away,

1812
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:26.159
<v Speaker 1>he backs out. He's got a high powered rifle. This

1813
01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>guy could have took a shot at this thing, but

1814
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he chose not to because he said, there's no way

1815
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:33.039
<v Speaker 1>that I could have affected this thing with my rifle.

1816
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:34.399
<v Speaker 1>That would have taken down a moose.

1817
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Mind you.

1818
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:38.159
<v Speaker 1>He goes back. He didn't tell his dad, and he

1819
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.199
<v Speaker 1>allowed his dad to go out. For the next eleven days.

1820
01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:44.279
<v Speaker 1>He would sit in his truck every single day and

1821
01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>let his dad go out by himself in the woods.

1822
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:50.239
<v Speaker 1>It really aided him to the point where he abused alcohol.

1823
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:54.399
<v Speaker 1>He went down a very dark path and it took

1824
01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of counseling for him to get on the

1825
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>other side of this. The thing that stuck out to

1826
01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>me the most about that is he said to me,

1827
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I felt so stupid. Brian, Again, this is subjective. He

1828
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:06.439
<v Speaker 1>has no way to prove this, but he felt like

1829
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this thing was luring him in with the wood knocks

1830
01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to do something to fairess because every time he would

1831
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>stop his progression it would knock again to get him

1832
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to come forward and eventually got him in the position

1833
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:19.479
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to be. And he said, I think

1834
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that saved me is I think this

1835
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>thing was smart enough to know I did have a

1836
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>very high powered rifle and I wasn't going to be

1837
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>easy prey. So that has really stuck with me for

1838
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>a couple of reasons. I've never heard anybody tell me

1839
01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that they thought they were being lured in by one

1840
01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>of these things with wood knocks, and the fact of

1841
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>how it affected him so negatively full disclosure. When you

1842
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>were looking for somebody for LMS two, he was one

1843
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.199
<v Speaker 1>of the people that I suggested that you might have

1844
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>involved for some of the things you were doing for

1845
01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:50.039
<v Speaker 1>LMS two. He wanted no part of it because he

1846
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:52.720
<v Speaker 1>said to me, I just want to come on. I

1847
01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:55.439
<v Speaker 1>trust you, I've listened to your show. I love the

1848
01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>way you treat people. I'm going to tell you my

1849
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>story one time, through and through. I want to ge

1850
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>all the details out there, and I am done with this.

1851
01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't want anything to do with the Bigfoot anymore.

1852
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to forget about this. I don't want to

1853
01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with it, and that was very

1854
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>profound for me because he didn't have a dog in

1855
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this fight.

1856
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It really aided.

1857
01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Him that a he thought he was being lured in,

1858
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and then the fact that he didn't tell his dad

1859
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:20.439
<v Speaker 1>because he was afraid he was going to ridicule him.

1860
01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>He felt like he had sent his dad into harm's

1861
01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>way because this thing was still out there, and it

1862
01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:26.119
<v Speaker 1>really aided him.

1863
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:27.520
<v Speaker 2>That's really stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>With me over the last I think that was about

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago when that episode came out.

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<v Speaker 2>What I do with your show, Brian is I wait

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<v Speaker 2>a little while till there's maybe five or six episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>then I binge amine, there you go. That's a good

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<v Speaker 2>way to do it. I love that because it seems

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<v Speaker 2>for me when I hear him back to back, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like I want to be convinced all the time

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<v Speaker 2>that they're real, even though I know they are. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen him, I haven't seen the face yet. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had of that frontal stare at each other. That has

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<v Speaker 2>not happened. I think until that moment happens, still keep

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<v Speaker 2>that skepticism. Being skeptical is healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think healthy skepticism, even if your own experiences, is important.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been very open and transparent about that on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I think that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>has resonated with my listeners for so many years is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I don't drink the Bigfoot kool aid.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do question things when it doesn't make sense, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very respectful to the people that come on my show.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody who listens to the show knows that it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about the people that come on. It's all about the experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I never mistreat anybody. Everybody's experience is unique, and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>experience is their own. I think they all deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>be told.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Sasquatch Odyssey is all about. Very cool. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't listen to his show, you should. It's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty amazing. Thank you Brian for coming on and

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<v Speaker 2>running over, and thanks Alex for all you do. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of wisdom for Bigfoot witnesses. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>foolish to reject not what you think, and it might

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<v Speaker 2>be wiser to reject what you think and not what

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<v Speaker 2>you have seen. Wise words, my friend wild. Bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>is you gotta believe your own eyes. You really do thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>good night. They say you.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be a world happened Jod, this job, Chid,

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<v Speaker 4>everything by bags for Joy, for me Joy, Stay right,

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<v Speaker 4>you come in right away, steps still stay stills as

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<v Speaker 4>bass stake places states, as fast USTs pass