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football teams. We got Jay Drew of the Deseret News

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on the LIEJ How you living?

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Speaker 4: I'm great? Love it, Ben love the golf references.

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Speaker 2: You know what Ben? Hey? Uh drive for show, putt

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for dough? What do you do best? You putt or

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drive for show better.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to say i'd putt better. Back in the

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old days, I could drive the ball fairly well, but uh,

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not so much anymore. But my putting has been pretty decent.

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That's one kind of scale or talent that doesn't require

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as much physical exertion. I guess so I'm still pretty

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good cutter.

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Speaker 3: Are you a better driver or a better wedger? You know,

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from like one hundred in.

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Speaker 4: You know, the wedge play has always kind of been

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a weakness of mine. I'd probably say driver never been

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really good, never really had a great short game aside

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from putting, Probably because I don't practice enough. When I

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get on the golf course, I want to play. I

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don't want to go to the driving range in practice.

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Speaker 3: I feel you on that. Well, get some Prevo Golf apparl.

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good deals at Prevowgolf Apparel dot com. Jay, what's the

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latest on Canard Davis Junior?

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Speaker 2: What's the status?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the status is that yesterday? All right? Well, I

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guess it was late Tuesday night after the police report

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was released to the pub. But Tuesday morning, Tuesday night,

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the Troble City Attorney's office prosecutor charged Cannard Davis with

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one count of misdemeanor d UI with possession of marijuana.

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It's the Class B misdemeanor.

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 4: They recommended a fine of something like one ninety dollars.

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A few hours later, UH Canard, through his attorney Danny

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Frasier of South Jordan, entered at no guilty, not guilty plea,

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asked for a jury trial, an expedient jury trial, and

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so that's where it is right now. They also, in

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their pleading UH asked for a bunch of evidence to

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be turned over that the Provo police allegedly collected at

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the scene. Obviously, you can you know, most people can

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figure out what that is, results of the drug test

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of the year in test I should say things like that.

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So that's the last I heard as far as what's happened.

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So now we pretty much wait and see. Maybe there

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might be a a plea bargain hammered out, But as

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far as the legal part of the whole thing, that's

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where it stands right now.

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Speaker 3: Danny Fraser lawyer, is that former b YU football player

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly is. He had a son that played

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cornerback for the Cougars. I can't remember his name. He

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graduates from Alta High. It was back to bround two

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got on the beat Money your listeners or maybe Ronnie

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Speaker 3: Wait James Yeah, yeah, linebacker and Alta I remember Jamison Yeah,

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good football player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Danny's his father. Danny has also represented various BYU

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athletes over the years. He represented Michael Lloyd one time,

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the basketball player. I think he might have been involved

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in the chas U situation. I'm not positive on Matt,

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but he's Uh, this is nothing new to Danny. I

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think he's probably made a few phone calls when this

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hit the news, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's

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doing it pro bono. I haven't been able to speak

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Speaker 3: Well, good representation obviously here. As uh we moved forward

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with this. Uh A lot of people were were surprised,

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uh that that a not guilty plea was put forth

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by Cannard Davis Junior any inside as to uh, you know,

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I mean, look like if if you're in possession, I

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mean the the Meron Medcalf situation, or his report came

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out that he had possession of marijuana and and so

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pleading not guilty to to D wise interesting to be like,

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how do you kind of correlate that and reconcile it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Myran Metcalf got the same police report that

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we all did at the exact same time. He was

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doesn't have to go through as many editors as since

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we do it the desert at noon. But but yeah,

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of that whole thing, you know, and it was sitting

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there and got beat by ESPN. But you know that's

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neither here nor there. That's more of an ego thing

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with media. But but yeah, the police report does say

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that there was I think the word was consumption evidence

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by consumption, which would tend to believe, you know, he

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had some in his system. There was also property seized

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in the police report, and that marijuana is included in that.

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would call it, and not use marijuana or whatever, doesn't

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say what form it was, you know, Obviously, marijuana nowadays

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comes in many different forms, so that, yeah, that's basically

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where it was. There was the police report was redacted,

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which means that some names were erased out, were blacked

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out where you can't read them. Other information was withheld

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from the police report. The police, the pro Policity Police

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and of Grandma requests, basically issued a letter along with

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the police report saying that this was only a partial report.

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from the police officers who were at the scene, and

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there were no fewer than six at the scene of

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this two car accident, so that, uh, that wasn't released either,

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nor was the the accident report. Here the prole police

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the information that they released Tuesday morning, there's no there's

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no other drivers name listed, there's no other information on

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who got the ticket for causing the crash, that sort

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of thing. And my guess is that's part of the

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evidence that is being sought after by by Cannard Davis's

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legal team at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you wonder if you was even it was he

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had fault in the accident. From other reports that I received,

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Speaker 4: That's what I've heard as well. There's not, like I said,

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there's nothing in the police report that indicates he received

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a citation for anything besides the duy and marijuana possession,

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which is on one citation. I should add, it's not

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two different charges. There's only one misdemeanor be charge that

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was that he was charged with when the official you know,

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charging documents came out. So so, yeah, I've heard the

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same thing you have been that that there were other

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people at the scene that you know, another person ran

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a red light allegedly instruct Canard Davis while he was

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on his way to the airport, ironically to go to

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Boston with the bya basketball team. So there's a lot

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of stuff lying out there, but I'm not going to

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report anything, at least in the pages of the Desert

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What was the official statement from Kevin Young, I believe

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yesterday when he got in front of the media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin was asked about it right up the taught

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by Darnelle, but he was more at the general question

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about his philosophy regarding discipline, and he did a good

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job answering that and basically just told the guys, hey,

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if you make a mistake, own up to it, and

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you know, and do the right thing. Later I asked him,

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you know, if he was allowed to speak on the

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Davis situation, and he basically said, I know exactly what happened.

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I know all the little details. But he said, the

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school has asked me to let them be the public

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voice or the comment on it. And so he said

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that's where it stands right now, is he won't be

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making comment on the details. But he did throw in

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the fact that, hey, if the school opens it up

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to me, I'd be more unwilling to talk about it.

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maybe some of the stuff that we just discussed. And

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probably look it up if they want to, kind of

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look at his whatever his body language, but he sounded

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to me almost like a disgusted tone. If that's fair

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or accurate. Over this thing. So yeah, that's that's kind

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of what he said yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So like his body leg which his reaction was one

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you mentioned like defiance, But it sounds like he knows

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all the details and probably has a little bit more

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grace he said. You said he he was kind of,

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you know, disgusted by maybe. I don't know, there's a

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wonder that Cannard Davis Junior pleaded not guilty to this situation.

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Speaker 2: There could be more details coming out here shortly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I even when it right after

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it happened. I've cautioned people to not rush the judgment,

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so wait till all the facts and details come out.

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A lot of people when they see the letters d U,

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I automatically think it was drunk driving, And yeah, it

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wasn't as far as they you know, there's no no

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no mention of alcohol in the in the citation, it's marijuana,

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so obviously that can be ingested in many different forms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to take in, no doubt about it.

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what do you think Cana Davis Junior is going to

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be back? Any any postulation, any, any prognostication in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any. I did ask Kevin that

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or I said something like safe to assume that he

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won't play Friday. That probably wasn't the best choice of word,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what impact is there? So we have a couple

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of we have attrition here. We have Night Pickets, who's

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out for the season due to injury. Kepaketa has been concussed.

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our Davis Junior don't know what he's going to be back.

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not having those three guys on the roster? How do

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that impact? How does that impact BYU's wins and losses

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early in the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have a huge impact. I mean, you

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know they're gonna obviously they're already a little fin on

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the guard line, especially point guard, back up point guard

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without Nate Pickens, so that they've been that way basically

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since the season started with Rob Wright having and being

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able to play a lot of minutes and being kind

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of an iron man and doing well at that. So

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so Dawson Baker's kind of moved in and played a

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little bit more of that point guard. But now with

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Canar Davis out, Dawson Baker got the start the last

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two games Tuesday against Delaware and then Saturday against Yukon.

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little Finn there at that spot, kind of the two

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guard spot, and now h and now with Kevi going

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down there really really sin at center. I mean, they're

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basically going to have to use a freshman Xavier on

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Statton that as I'm assuming he will start. I don't know,

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maybe the Heilo Boskovich will start, although he's not really

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a true center. They've got him listed as a forward.

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power forward type player. So they're sin. It's no question

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this is a really bad time to be sin too,

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because obviously November I wrote about this a little while ago.

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November is the by far a harder month than December.

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Is all these tough games are lining up in November,

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and to not be at full strength is really going

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to hamper there when the net rankings come out in

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December early December. You know, it's going to hamper those

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net rankings unless they somehow pull off these wins. And

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but it's going to be an uphill battle schedules that difficult.

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Speaker 3: Jay Drew desrad News, You're in a cougar beat, brought

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Speaker 2: Dot God.

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Speaker 3: Jay, As far as BA football is concerned, how optimistic

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are you that do by you can go into Nippert

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Stadium and come out and hopefully have some style points

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point, I you know, I'm thinking just

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when baby is probably the biggest sentiment that most BYU

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fans at this point, at this juncture, you know, just

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basically win the next two games and then kind of

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let the the you know, let what is the saying,

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let the bricks fall where they may or whatever?

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Speaker 3: I can't remember that old click howeverumbles right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and but but yeah, first things first, this is

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a tough game. Cincinnati, until until Utah stomp, donhom was

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top twenty team and looking really good.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Every every indication is they're getting two key offlimpsive weapons back,

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a running back and a receiver back who missed the

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Utah game and and the Arizona game. I think one

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of them missed the Utah game and both of them

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missed the Earth the Arizona loss, So their offense should

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be a little bit better with more weapons for Brandon

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scores be so or Soresby excuse me.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's gonna be a tough game.

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I tell people all the time, it's hard to win

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college football games on the road, especially power forward opponents.

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Everybody's got scholarship guys, everybody's got talent, everybody's got good coaches.

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So these these aren't gimmes by any stretch. And obviously

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Cincinnati is gonna be pumped up. They got game day coming.

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They're going to want to make amends for the lost

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two years ago to BYU and to the for the

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loss last week to get Arizona. So and they still

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have something to play for with. You know, they're not

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totally out of the Big Twelve championship game race yet either,

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So I expect the Hornets nets Cincinnati and and uh,

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you know, the Cougars better come out better than they

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did against Texas Tech, or it could be a long

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night for them.

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Speaker 3: Jay Drew des Red News, Jay, best way to support

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you what you do, how you do it for all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my stuff work can be found at Deseret dot com,

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blacks Backs, slash Sports, dot BYU. I also on Twitter

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at Drew j Or. Generally I do a retweet of

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whatever stories are published, I retweet them so people can

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find them through that as well.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Anything you're cooking up that's going to be

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dropping here.

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Speaker 4: Shortly, Yeah, not really. I got a little with preview

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of Friday's Wisconsin BYU basketball game, and then I'll be

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writing kind of a piece about Cincinnati BYU at Cincinnati

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that'll publish Friday afternoon, kind of looking back at the

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history of the series and what the stakes are, kind

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of what BYU needs to do to stay alive for

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the Big twelve championship game.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Ja Drew, follow him on x and read

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Jay, Thanks for having me on A

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good night.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure, Always a blessing talking with Jay Drew.

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Speaker 3: You gonna get into a little college football segment, but

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before we do, want to give Big Cougar or to Loan.

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Speaker 2: Peak and Quarner Canyon duking it out once again.

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Speaker 3: Lots of recruits BYU you recruits out of state recruits

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as well, a lot of people institutions probably watching this game.

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Lots of great players right now. Updates, score updates ten

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to seven.

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Speaker 2: Loan Peak go nights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Buddy, Loan Peak inchin maybe away from the Corner

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Canyon football team. So Bob Mulatalo baby BYU cou commit

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Cougar fans keeping their fingers crossed that they can flip

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guys like Jared and Kennon Pula to four stars wide

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receiver and defense are back. I don't know if that's

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gonna happen. Maybe it will, Maybe it won't. We'll keep

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an eye on it though. Some good football players in

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the mix. But this segment talking some college football, getting

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Speaker 5: How you living doing off?

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Speaker 2: How you guys doing fantastic? How you feeling about them coogs?

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Speaker 3: You're feeling optimistic after that dominating win over the TCU

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horn Frogs.

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Speaker 5: I am feeling great. I'm obviously a little nervous that

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whether we get a shot at the playoff or not,

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But I my blue doggle takes as always think that

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it's not impossible for us to be tech. I think

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too many people are already just defeat us, that we're

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gonna get to that conference championship game and still not

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be able to win. I'm not saying I think that

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it's a guarantee win, but I definitely think it's possible

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more than maybe some of the fan base thinks it is.

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Speaker 2: One at a time, Bradon one out of top.

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Speaker 3: BYU's only a two and a half point favorite versus

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the Bearcats, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: I think the team's coming in with I guess maybe.

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I hope the team comes with the same urgency they

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did last week for TCU. I think they know there's

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unfinished business, and I think that Tech loss really refocused

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them and got them to spot where I don't think

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they're gonna take any any game. For granted, me as

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a fan, I'm taking it. I'm not taking any game

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one game at a time. I'm going playoff or bust.

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But just kidding no, I really do think that the

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team's gonna look at it the right way and go

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into this distancy game. I'm ready to the pounds and

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go and dominate the game. Honestly, I'm not saying they're

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going to but I think there that's the mindset. I

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think they do end up winning by.

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Speaker 3: A score or two, so the ramifications of a loss

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are dire for BYU fans.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be bear mungering here.

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Speaker 3: I want to move forward with faith obviously, but there's

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a lot of tie breaking scenarios that you.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to be a part of. Right now, you're

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the master around destinay.

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Speaker 3: Last year BYU flailed, they found folly on the back

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end of their schedule, losing to Kansas and ASU.

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Speaker 2: What makes you believe that.

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Speaker 3: That Texas Tech loss will turn into a second loss

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with Cincinnati on the road.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think I think you're definitely right

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that it's well. Do not want to get in a

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tiebreaker scenario because I think and I know the tiebreaker

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scenarios are all crazy complicated. But I think as soon

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as we go down to those two losses where all

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of a sudden, now in a spot where I think

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few times have the tiebreaker over us just based on

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strength to schedule and things like that. So I don't

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feel I feel like they learned the lesson last year.

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do it. I really think it's more of a yeah,

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last year thing than it is the Tech thing. I

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think the Tech woke them back up to it to

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reminded them like where they're at. But I think last

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year's situation is really what's motivating this team to keep

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going forward. And that's why I have fates that are

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really not going to drop the next two games, just

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because I think they know how important it is and

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how easy it can slip away from them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these tie breaking scenario is quite interesting. The Big

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Twelve put it out officially. The following steps will be

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for the twenty twenty five Edward Jones Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Football Championship Game.

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Speaker 3: If two teams are tied in the Big Twelve standings

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conference games, only, the following steps will be taken until

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a determination is made.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this Brandon Day.

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Speaker 3: The Tide teams will be compared based on their head

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to head record during the season who won the head.

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Speaker 2: To head right. B.

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percentage against all common conference opponents. C. The Tide teams

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will be compared based on the winning percentage against the

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next highest placed Common opponent in the standings based on

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the record in all games played within the conference.

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Speaker 2: Proceeding through the standings.

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Speaker 3: D the Tide teams will be compared based on the

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combined winning percentage in conference games of conference opponents. E.

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The Tie teams will be compared based on the total

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number of wins in a twelve game season. And then

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F the representative will be chosen based on the highest

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ranking by Sports Analytics the team Rating score metric following

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the last weekend of regular season games. And then gee, Jason,

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the representative will be chosen by a coin toss.

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Speaker 2: There you have it.

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Speaker 5: But I guess are they saying that there's a chance

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that that Sports Reference or whatever it was is gonna

488
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have the exact same ranking at that point? So that's

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I can't guess. You get that that last one, like

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I get where all of those other ones could ethnically

491
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have things, But couldn't that that rating system should always

492
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have the same I guess, yeah, but that's crazy. And

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then and that's the thing, right, so head to head

494
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even if if let's say Cincy, if we do lose

495
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this game, you can't go to head to head because

496
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we lose to Cincy. We beat Utah, Utah beat Cincy.

497
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There's not a that that type break cris scenario doesn't work,

498
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and so I understand the kind of why they have

499
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to go to those next steps. Yeah, we don't want

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to have to deal with that, and I think that's

501
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the thing we lost out last year due to due

502
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to type breaker scenarios, and I just don't I don't

503
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think this team's gonna allow that to happen again this year.

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Speaker 3: Much of the rhetorics surrounding BYU right now is that

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they just weren't competitive in that Texas Tech game, and

506
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that's why they don't deserve to be higher than the

507
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eleventh spot into College Football Playoff. You look at like

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Equity and like these brands right over a long period

509
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of time, and you know, Notre Dame is always gonna

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get the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 2: You know, Miami's gonna get the benefited out sometimes.

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Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of these brands, Alabama and

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the SEC, they're always gonna get the benefit of the doubt.

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And by is not there yet despite over the last

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two years, Like right now, they're collective record over the

516
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last year's twenty and three, that's the best of the

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Big twelve. And all we're talking about is margin of

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victory and that Texas Tech game B. Why you wins

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too many games that are too close? And they lost

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that Texas Tech game by too many points?

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Speaker 2: What do you make of all it?

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Speaker 5: Can't remember? I've talked about this on the show, but

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I here's my take on this. If the goal was

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to win big, we would try and win big.

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Speaker 4: But Kilane and a.

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Speaker 5: Rod and j Hill, I think they have a collective

527
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like their ideas winning is more important than winning big,

528
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and so we're not going to risk put ourselves at

529
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risk not winning the game in order to be extra

530
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you know, aggressive in certain areas and throw picks and

531
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do certain things like that that may make it so

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we're winning games bigger. But if that were the goal

533
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that we were going for, that was the actual job

534
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to be done, then that's what we would do, and

535
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I think we would show out different. But that's the

536
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problem that I have with this is we're ranking everything

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based on gain control and how you know, all these

538
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different different metrics, not on the wins. But the actual

539
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metric that we're asking the teams to do is win.

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But are we actually asking that now? And that's where

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I wonder kind of with Kilanie's statements this week, and

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you know, winning is the most important. I agree, but

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I do feel like that's becoming not as important as

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the metrics, that margin of victory and all those different

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things that are going on, or who you played, who

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you lost to. But winning isn't as valued, but it

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should be because that is what the job to be

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done is. And if we had if we made the

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other things the job to be done and that was

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our goal. Arad was called the offense difference, we'd called

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the defense different to gain those specific things and we

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Speaker 3: A couple last questions for all for you, for all

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the Cougar fans to debate about. Look, b, why you

578
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need someone in front of them to lose? Most likely,

579
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even if you went out and you keep it competitive

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versus Texas Tech. Let's say you lose that game in

581
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the Big TOAL Championship game, you may not be going

582
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to the College Football Playoff. You need Alabama to lose

583
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maybe at Auburn in the Iron Bowl. You need Notre

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Dame maybe to lose to maybe a Syracuse team who's

585
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in the middle of the pack. You need Oklahoma possibly

586
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to lose to UH. I think they they play what

587
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LSU in Mississippi State. They got Mississippi State and LSU

588
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one of those three teams. That's like my Tier one

589
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:20,559
guys like, hey, we need one of these two three

590
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,519
teams to lose. My Tier two is like, Okay, ole Miss.

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I think Ole Miss could possibly lose Oregon, organ could

592
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be possibly in two game USC. But even but does

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a two lost Oregon team drop out of the top ten?

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Speaker 5: I think so?

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Speaker 4: Really, I mean, okay, I think they should.

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Speaker 5: I guess I have no idea will But also I

597
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also think Notre Dame shouldn't be where they are. But

598
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but I really think with where there rings right this second,

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I think if they lost another one, there is some

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worry that USC all of a sudden then jumps back

601
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in and they both just stay right there clumps. But

602
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I think they I think that's our best bet truthfully,

603
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,240
are the most likely be Our best bet would be

604
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having you know, Alabama loose again or something like that.

605
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But I think having our most likely situation is that

606
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USC could could pull that upside off in at Oregon

607
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and do that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they look, they face a ranked USC team

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and then they take their talents to Washington.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Look, if you go side by side, b Yu's resume

612
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is better than Oregon's quite honestly. But whatever it is matter,

613
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It doesn't matter the games you play. It's just about

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how you're trending right now. It's how you're trending right now,

615
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not what you did four or five, six, seven.

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Speaker 2: Eight weeks ago. No more.

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Speaker 3: It's about how you're trending and what conference you're a

618
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part of. That's how the cookies crumbling this year anyway.

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Speaker 5: And if the team and if the team you played

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was ranked like number two when you played them, but

621
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they're actually a physmal now, like we don't care, we

622
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don't care what they are now. Like okay, so ec

623
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U team, ECU team, but we played though everybody thought

624
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was best that actually might go win to the American

625
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Like what about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: So like if I'm looking at you know, I'm looking

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at like these these resumes right now, Oregon versus b YU,

629
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Oregon versus the current top twenty five oh one. Their

630
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,480
best win is against a six and four IOWA team.

631
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Second best win is a six and four Minnesota team.

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They lost at home to number two Indiana BYU's one

633
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in one versus the current top twenty five best win

634
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and one of those teams the one lost is a

635
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top five team best win is number twelve Utah. Their

636
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,440
second best win is seven and three Arizona. And you

637
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,279
know that that seems like a better resume. I'll be honest, right,

638
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:42,400
come on, yeah, it is. For the love of all

639
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that's holy, give me some love. Who's the most likely

640
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,200
to lose out of these teams? Do you think on

641
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:52,200
the back end, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Alabama or Oregon?

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Speaker 5: What do you think of Oregon?

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Speaker 2: You think?

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Speaker 5: I think Notre Dame is the one that would help

645
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,079
us the most of somehow they lost us because I

646
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think they're already the most amount of their overrated the

647
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most amount, so it'd be really hard to actually keep going.

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But I just don't think they're going to lose their

649
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last two games. They have played nobody outside of the

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two teams they lost.

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Speaker 3: To take on the number twenty two Miszoo Tigers and

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then uh, they're at home both these games, so they

653
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have Miszoo and LSU.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think I think Oregon's a little bit

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more like Oregon's not tested either, and they're playing the

656
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the the best team with also not being tested, where

657
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I do think that Oklahoma has been more tested than

658
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I think Oregon has, so I think there's more a

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better chance that Oregon's more of a paper tiger than

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then Oklahomas.

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Speaker 2: There you have it, it's Brydon Day. Let him earn

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your business. Guys.

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ten percent off any product any service he provides as well.

712
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Speaker 2: So nice job.

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Speaker 3: Buy three tires, get one free at Big O Tires

714
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in American. Four So I'm telling you Ryan's big by

715
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fan wants to suport Cougarnation. Let him earn your business.

716
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Today at Big O Tires in American four. All right,

717
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,400
let's talk about some of these games. Ronald the three

718
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,159
man Weaver. I'm gonna pose the same similar question that

719
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,480
I pose to my guy Brydon Day, Where will the

720
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,360
losses come from? I am hoping, praying, fingers crossed that

721
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,400
there is a loss to be had amongst this group.

722
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: This is my Tier one teams that I need a

723
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,159
loss from.

724
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,079
Speaker 3: Oklahoma, who's at eight and two, Notre Dame at eight

725
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:46,360
and two, and then Alabama at eight and two. Oklahoma

726
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,400
will have two home games, both tough ones in my opinion,

727
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,360
but winnable games. They take on Miszoo this next week,

728
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,760
number twenty two in the nation. Then they welcome LSU.

729
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,400
Both games present legit them in danger. I think Wazoo

730
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,599
brings physicality, athleticism. LSU brings also elite athletes in speed

731
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,000
into Oklahoma. Colombus defenses played extremely well, though they're a

732
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,880
good football team. No IF's answer butts about it, but

733
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,639
you got those two games. Notre Dame is has a

734
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,119
little bit easier schedule, not as difficult. They're gonna be

735
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,880
taken on like the most likely game that they guess

736
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,599
they could lose is probably the Syracuse game, most likely,

737
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
I would say, but they do have two games remaining

738
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,800
as well. It would be a bit of a surprise

739
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,360
to have them lose two games. You're just hoping for

740
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,360
one though, fingers crossed one, and I think most likely

741
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,679
it's gonna be that Syracuse game. Now, Syracuse is right

742
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,800
now middle of the pack. They've had their ups, they've

743
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,360
had their downs this season, but they're they're a decent

744
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,239
football team.

745
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: They could shock If Stamford is the other one. I

746
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,440
don't know, it's a late night game, it's at.

747
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: Stanford, Okay, So the Syracuse game is at home for

748
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,599
Notre Dame. They go on the road to Stanford. No

749
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,159
one shows up, all right, Actually the only thing that

750
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,119
does show up to Stanford games is bigotry, religious bigotry. Haha,

751
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:21,320
just kidding or am I? Anyway, Stanford could shock the world.

752
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Maybe Stanford's gonna do a solid force because if you

753
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:28,679
beat BA already beat Stanford, and if Stamford beats Notre Dame,

754
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,159
we're in, Like Flynn.

755
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:35,199
Speaker 2: Whoever that is, Okay, we're in, baby, and all we gotta.

756
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: Do is is not lose to Cincinnati and on the

757
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,719
road and not lose to UCF at home. So you

758
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,519
got that opportunity there intriguing, but not as maybe viable.

759
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,239
Notre Dame is most likely a lock in the top ten.

760
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,039
Now you have Alabama, they have the Iron Bowl. They're

761
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,039
gonna be at Auburn, Okay. And then I would say

762
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:01,920
my tier two teams. Yes, Ole Miss is intriguing. They

763
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,000
could lose two. I think they're at Mississippi State. Mississippi

764
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,719
State has shown decent at times. You got Oregon, They're

765
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,599
facing a ranked USC team at home, and then they

766
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,719
go on the road to Washington. At Washington that could

767
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,719
be a game that could get a little bit, a

768
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,800
little bit scary for him.

769
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: Georgia is also another team.

770
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: I don't think a two loss Georgia team drops out

771
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,119
of the top ten, but they could lose to Georgia Tech.

772
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,000
That game's at home, but Georgia sex's ranked right now.

773
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,400
Where do you see the losses coming? The most likely

774
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,079
to occur and why Ronald the three man Weaver?

775
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben, I'm looking at this and I really was

776
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,960
thinking hard right, you know, And I guess you're more

777
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:46,079
likely upset scenario to happen this weekend. It's probably USC Oregan.

778
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:48,079
I don't even know if it's really an upset because

779
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,360
USC is a top fifteen team. I mean, pick could

780
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,320
also upset Georgia Tech, but that's not gonna affect BYU

781
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:55,800
and I'll but I just want to throw that in

782
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,159
there as a college football fan. No, Ben, I think

783
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,679
there's games on the schedule like Georgia Tech can beat

784
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Georgia at home. Georgia has been proven to lose and

785
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,960
they do right, but that would not I don't think

786
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,800
they would knock Georgia out of the top ten if

787
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,039
it happened. I don't know how much it would help

788
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,800
BYU even the last weekend of the schedule, because they

789
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,599
played Charlotte this week. They played their cupcakes, so that'd

790
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,519
be tough. Even if they were to fall six spots,

791
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,920
they'd fall to number ten. So maybe it helps by

792
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,960
you get above. But I don't know Old Miss Mississippi State.

793
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,599
I'm gonnakinda throw that one out the door. I don't

794
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,239
know Mississippi's Old Miss would be coming off the buy

795
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,199
be more healthier.

796
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

797
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 6: Trnid As Good is a good quarterback, so I don't

798
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,440
know about that one. But if you had to ask

799
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:38,400
me to rank, give me Oregon losing to USC. That

800
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,760
could happen this weekend. Not saying it will, but that's possible.

801
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,639
Then they gotta go on the road to Washington. Those

802
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,400
are two tough games. And I think after that, if

803
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,320
you were to ask me, I probably rank you know,

804
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,960
Oklahoma next, you gotta play Missouri at home. Miss there's

805
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,079
a good football team. They're ranked, and then LSU SEC been.

806
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,679
You always gotta respect it. These SEC teams are good

807
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,440
and they can they can get you on any given day.

808
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,840
That's what I probably rank six, and then I probably

809
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,760
go third. I probably go Georgia Texas Tech because look,

810
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,679
Georgia Texas Tech is a good football team. Both of

811
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
those but Georgia Tech could have you out. So that's

812
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,840
how I'm looking at it. I think it's more likely Oregon.

813
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,360
If Oregon loses a USC ben you can't say, well, now,

814
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,679
well that's a quality loss to USC. You can't jump

815
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360
USC over BYU. I don't think you can do that.

816
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,920
BAU has one loss, you can't. I don't think you

817
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,159
could have a two loss Oregon team and a two

818
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,840
loss USC team ahead of that. So that's your more

819
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,400
likely scenario and it's in the Big ten because they're

820
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,559
not gonna knock the SEC as much as they'll knock

821
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,719
the Big ten. They'll drop Big ten in my opinion,

822
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,280
but they won't drop I think the SEC as much.

823
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,320
So that's your likely scenario Oregon first. Then I'm gonna

824
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,239
go Oklahoma. I'm not even gonna say Alabama, really, I

825
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,519
don't think so. And then I'm gonna go Georgia after

826
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:47,360
that in that order.

827
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fingers crossed right now. Like I would love

828
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:53,440
nothing more.

829
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a part of me that wants Notre

831
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,039
Dame out, and there's a part of me that wants

832
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,519
to Notre Dame man. And I'll tell you why. Number One,

833
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,519
I do think it's it's good for business to have

834
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:07,159
Notre Dame in there. The other component is this, like

835
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,679
if they win two in a row to finish the

836
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,519
season Syracuse, Stanford, it's not gonna necessarily elevate them, but

837
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,440
if someone loses ahead of them, they could jump in

838
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,039
front of them. So, for instance, if Georgia lost in

839
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:18,519
Georgia Tech, I don't think they're dropping it at the

840
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:22,559
top ten, but they would move ahead, and I would

841
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,679
love nothing more. Than to have BYU and Notre Dame

842
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,800
seated against each other. I mean, I need that BYU

843
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,079
is a better football team than they were the last

844
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:34,320
go around. And quite honestly, Bo, you matched up really

845
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,440
well versus Notre Dame in Vegas, and I feel like

846
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,000
they got away with one. Like I feel like we

847
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:43,800
should have won that one. I really do, Like deep

848
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,119
down in myloin's in the plums in my bosom, I

849
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:49,440
feel like we should have beat the fighting Irish.

850
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: I really do.

851
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,599
Speaker 3: I want to stick it to that fighting Irish because

852
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,360
I feel like they had a lot of pompish.

853
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: Nature in there.

854
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: They didn't want that home at home actual they didn't

855
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,320
want to come back to Provo, and we had handled

856
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,840
them in l in two thousand and four.

857
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,519
Speaker 2: They don't want none of that action, boss. So I

858
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:04,920
don't know. I go back and forth with that.

859
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,079
Speaker 3: Oregon to me is an interesting setting because their resume

860
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:13,800
already isn't as good as Byus. So like I'm leaning

861
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,239
towards Oregon because it's like, Okay, well they're gonna take

862
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,079
on USC. They're gonna be at home. That's a that's

863
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:23,360
a tough environment. That's a tough environment. They may beat

864
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:29,039
USC at home, but they may lose to Washington.

865
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, now the question is because they're on the road.

866
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,920
Washington a good football team. I think.

867
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: If you lose to If Oregon loses to Washington, they're

868
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,199
at number seven right now. They beat USC, they may

869
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,079
move up. I don't know how much, depending on what's

870
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,280
in front of them. Would they drop out of the

871
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,760
top ten. Does a two loss Oregon team drop out

872
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,639
of the top ten?

873
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,639
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know.

874
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: I just like they want Oregon there, They want ole

875
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Miss there, they want Notre Dame there, you know what

876
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:02,239
I mean.

877
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,519
Speaker 2: They want Alabama there.

878
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: Idealistically, it would be glorious for me because of like

879
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:13,599
how powerful Alabama has been in the modern era. Like

880
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,480
I'm leaning towards Alabama losing to Auburn. But I don't

881
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,159
know if Auburn has the firepower. But they're at Auburn.

882
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,400
Auburn's fourteen in the SEC this year. But you're like

883
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:32,280
fingers crossed, maybe magic can happen. Now has Auburn been

884
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,960
competitive in these in these games that they've lost at

885
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:42,800
their four and six right now? For and six their losses,

886
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,280
they started the season strong. They beat Baylor thirty eight

887
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,639
to twenty four. They beat Ball State forty two to three,

888
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,880
and then they beat South Alabama thirty one to fifteen.

889
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:54,199
They lost Oklahoma it was close, twenty four to seventeen,

890
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,519
a one lost game. They lost to Texas A and

891
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,880
M sixteen to ten. One loss game, Georgia twenty to ten,

892
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:10,800
a ten point loss. Miszoo in double overtime. Auburn lost

893
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,679
twenty three to seventeen. Another one score game. They beat

894
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Arkansas a couple of weeks ago, thirty three to twenty four.

895
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: They lost to Kentucky after that ten to.

896
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,199
Speaker 3: Three once again another one loss bit and then Vanderbilt

897
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,199
forty five to thirty eight in ot does Auburn have

898
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,119
any juice? Les jeez for the iron ball? Just one

899
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,400
score game? So I am hoping like they are a

900
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,599
good point. Actually they're they're playing for ball eligibility right now.

901
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's the game they win.

902
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: They have to get in.

903
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so they'll beat Mercer. Okay, they're coming off

904
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,320
of bye week right now. They got Mercer. So I

905
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,920
am I hope I pray that that bye week was

906
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:59,239
focused on the Crimson tide, right Like you're you're barely

907
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,719
in premity. You don't want too far ahead. But they

908
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,079
should be able to beat Mercer. I don't think Mercer

909
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,960
is very good this year. Oh actually, Marcy's good.

910
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:08,639
Speaker 2: They they're nine to one right now. Sh well, you could.

911
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,119
You can't look past Mercer. You could. You could lose

912
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,920
the Mercer to not situation this year.

913
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: But anyway, anyway, anyway, so you got Alabama and you're

914
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:25,360
at home, and you could place spoiler, you could play

915
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,719
spoil it.

916
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: You could get bull eligible.

917
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 3: And play spoiler to oust Alabama out of.

918
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:37,599
Speaker 2: The cold from play for the second year in a row.

919
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,559
I'm picking. I'm picking Auburn, baby, that's my team. I'm

920
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:46,360
wrong with it. They're gonna knock off the Crimson time.

921
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:48,920
Oh how glorious that would be.

922
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,679
Speaker 3: We would have joined Nick Saban's gonna be pulling out

923
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,519
his hair that he's trying to regrow.

924
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 2: Because he's thinning, just like I am in my old age. Auburn,

925
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,239
I need you.

926
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,519
Speaker 3: I would love it like that would be a sign

927
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360
to me of a number of things, right, not that

928
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:13,280
Alabama has fallen from grace, but.

929
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: That times are changing. Times have changed.

930
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: And there's a reason why Nick Samon said, peace, I'm out.

931
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,440
It's not sustainable anymore. I can't do this. Can'ley come

932
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,280
on in, you can. You can try. Give it a whirl,

933
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,320
give it your best shot. A five and six Auburn

934
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:43,760
team beating Alabama. Oh, talk about celestial college football chaos.

935
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 6: Would Alabama be cursed at that point a little bit

936
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,360
by Auburn, because that'd be twice like that. I have seen,

937
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,000
you know, the kickoff by Chris Davis.

938
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:53,159
Speaker 2: As a long time ago.

939
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, well but I remember that as a kid though,

940
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:57,559
Like I remember watching that game with my dad, so

941
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:00,239
that and then, and obviously it's different now, but like

942
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:03,559
Auburn taking Alabama, it would matter way more now. But

943
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that'd be crazy that in this lifetime span I've been alive,

944
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I will saying Alabama get waxed twice.

945
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say so.

946
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Speaker 3: Alabama's on a five game winning streak right now, five

947
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:22,639
game winning streak for the lost the last uh so

948
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the last three wins Okay, twenty thirteen, twenty seventeen, and

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twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Auburn's do baby, It's not their best team.

951
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Speaker 3: Typically, when Auburn beats Alabama, they're a top twenty five team,

952
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,000
that's the problem. But Auburn has been competitive in every

953
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,320
single game that they've lost. They've never been blown out.

954
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,760
They've always been competitive. They're keeping it respectable. And so

955
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maybe there's enough juice left in that Orange right to

956
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knock off the Crimson Tide.

957
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Speaker 2: Oh, give it to me for Thanksgiving? Give it to

958
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me for Christmas? Can can I say you've been used

959
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,320
to Christmas? Right?

960
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Speaker 6: How about let's go bigger Thanksgiving Christmas? What about Oregon

961
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,199
losing one of its last two games out of the

962
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top ten, and is when you lose two, Alabama losing

963
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to Auburn, and then and then you add Oklahoma losing

964
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one of these games.

965
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean if all losing a game, that'd be nice.

966
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Now in Oklahoma's got it tough, it's not like they

967
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so I bring it up. Yeah, I guarantee man, Miszoo

968
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and LSU those are good football team. Zoo's never been

969
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blown I can't hear you. I can't even hear you.

970
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:31,920
You gotta put your mic up in front of your mouth,

971
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VIC and say something.

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Speaker 7: Missouri hasn't been blown out either, So don't be surprised

973
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if Missouri goes in there and knocks out Oklahoma because

974
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you know they're tough and they played these teams tough

975
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Alabama twenty seven to twenty four.

976
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Speaker 2: Come on, Zoo's tough.

977
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Speaker 3: Zoos a good football team. Never know, hey, man, keep it,

978
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,079
keep it right at Maszoo's trying to get in on

979
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the action.

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Speaker 6: Can I play uh?

981
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Speaker 2: Can I play E? Or can I?

982
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Speaker 5: Can I do that?

983
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:57,559
Speaker 2: Can I do that?

984
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Speaker 5: What?

985
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:00,639
Speaker 2: Fans? Please?

986
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Speaker 6: I know you listen, don't roast me, but Ben, this

987
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would be the worst thing in the world for Oklahoma

988
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to lose this weekend, Oregon to lose this weekend, you

989
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,280
know where I'm going with this, and then BYU this weekend.

990
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,960
If that were to happen, fans might cry. Been fans

991
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,119
by what fans might cry like if Oregon were to lose,

992
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,159
If Oklahoma were to lose, and by You were to

993
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,480
lose this weekend BYU, fans would cry, that ain't gonna happen.

994
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,199
Speaker 2: Well, look, look this is the thing I mean.

995
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,199
Speaker 3: Look, BYU has not been able to get out of

996
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,159
the hump in the you know, post nineteen ninety six.

997
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,119
That's why I bring it up right, So it's it's

998
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,440
been it's been a while since you've been able to

999
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,079
play after New Year's and that's what you're hoping for

1000
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:45,519
right now. You're hoping to be a part of the

1001
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college football playoff and do something that you've never There's

1002
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:50,480
only been one other season that you've done it, and

1003
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that was ninety six, right, And you could say eighty

1004
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,119
four was in the national championship game, but it was

1005
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:59,719
that the bowl game was against a solid Michigan team

1006
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,360
and everyone lost in front of you, So you were

1007
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,760
dumbed by the media as the national champion, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Like we will continually revere that eighty four team.

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Speaker 3: One of the best in BA football history, maybe the

1010
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best in BA football history. But I would love nothing

1011
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,440
more to get over the hump and break the curse. Right,

1012
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we'll go to break guys, don't go anywhere. Great segment.

1013
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I really enjoyed that talking about the potential losses that

1014
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could come ahead of ahead of BYU would love to

1015
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see it, would love to have it, no doubt about it.

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