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football teams. We got Jay Drew of the Deseret News
on the LIEJ How you living?
Speaker 4: I'm great? Love it, Ben love the golf references.
Speaker 2: You know what Ben? Hey? Uh drive for show, putt
for dough? What do you do best? You putt or
drive for show better.
Speaker 4: I'd have to say i'd putt better. Back in the
old days, I could drive the ball fairly well, but uh,
not so much anymore. But my putting has been pretty decent.
That's one kind of scale or talent that doesn't require
as much physical exertion. I guess so I'm still pretty
good cutter.
Speaker 3: Are you a better driver or a better wedger? You know,
from like one hundred in.
Speaker 4: You know, the wedge play has always kind of been
a weakness of mine. I'd probably say driver never been
really good, never really had a great short game aside
from putting, Probably because I don't practice enough. When I
get on the golf course, I want to play. I
don't want to go to the driving range in practice.
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latest on Canard Davis Junior?
Speaker 2: What's the status?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the status is that yesterday? All right? Well, I
guess it was late Tuesday night after the police report
was released to the pub. But Tuesday morning, Tuesday night,
the Troble City Attorney's office prosecutor charged Cannard Davis with
one count of misdemeanor d UI with possession of marijuana.
It's the Class B misdemeanor.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 4: They recommended a fine of something like one ninety dollars.
A few hours later, UH Canard, through his attorney Danny
Frasier of South Jordan, entered at no guilty, not guilty plea,
asked for a jury trial, an expedient jury trial, and
so that's where it is right now. They also, in
their pleading UH asked for a bunch of evidence to
be turned over that the Provo police allegedly collected at
the scene. Obviously, you can you know, most people can
figure out what that is, results of the drug test
of the year in test I should say things like that.
So that's the last I heard as far as what's happened.
So now we pretty much wait and see. Maybe there
might be a a plea bargain hammered out, But as
far as the legal part of the whole thing, that's
where it stands right now.
Speaker 3: Danny Fraser lawyer, is that former b YU football player
Danny Fraser.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly is. He had a son that played
cornerback for the Cougars. I can't remember his name. He
graduates from Alta High. It was back to bround two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine when I first
got on the beat Money your listeners or maybe Ronnie
might remember his name Fraser.
Speaker 3: Wait James Yeah, yeah, linebacker and Alta I remember Jamison Yeah,
good football player.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Danny's his father. Danny has also represented various BYU
athletes over the years. He represented Michael Lloyd one time,
the basketball player. I think he might have been involved
in the chas U situation. I'm not positive on Matt,
but he's Uh, this is nothing new to Danny. I
think he's probably made a few phone calls when this
hit the news, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's
doing it pro bono. I haven't been able to speak
to him, but yeah, that's Danny Frasier.
Speaker 3: Well, good representation obviously here. As uh we moved forward
with this. Uh A lot of people were were surprised,
uh that that a not guilty plea was put forth
by Cannard Davis Junior any inside as to uh, you know,
I mean, look like if if you're in possession, I
mean the the Meron Medcalf situation, or his report came
out that he had possession of marijuana and and so
pleading not guilty to to D wise interesting to be like,
how do you kind of correlate that and reconcile it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Myran Metcalf got the same police report that
we all did at the exact same time. He was
able to come out with it first because he probably
doesn't have to go through as many editors as since
we do it the desert at noon. But but yeah,
I don't want listeners to think I wasn't on top
of that whole thing, you know, and it was sitting
there and got beat by ESPN. But you know that's
neither here nor there. That's more of an ego thing
with media. But but yeah, the police report does say
that there was I think the word was consumption evidence
by consumption, which would tend to believe, you know, he
had some in his system. There was also property seized
in the police report, and that marijuana is included in that.
So apparently there was I'm not sure exactly what you
would call it, and not use marijuana or whatever, doesn't
say what form it was, you know, Obviously, marijuana nowadays
comes in many different forms, so that, yeah, that's basically
where it was. There was the police report was redacted,
which means that some names were erased out, were blacked
out where you can't read them. Other information was withheld
from the police report. The police, the pro Policity Police
Records Division, which is in charge of the reports now
and of Grandma requests, basically issued a letter along with
the police report saying that this was only a partial report.
For instance, I had requested the body cam footage from
from the police officers who were at the scene, and
there were no fewer than six at the scene of
this two car accident, so that, uh, that wasn't released either,
nor was the the accident report. Here the prole police
are saying there was a two car accident, but in
the information that they released Tuesday morning, there's no there's
no other drivers name listed, there's no other information on
who got the ticket for causing the crash, that sort
of thing. And my guess is that's part of the
evidence that is being sought after by by Cannard Davis's
legal team at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wonder if you was even it was he
had fault in the accident. From other reports that I received,
he wasn't.
Speaker 4: That's what I've heard as well. There's not, like I said,
there's nothing in the police report that indicates he received
a citation for anything besides the duy and marijuana possession,
which is on one citation. I should add, it's not
two different charges. There's only one misdemeanor be charge that
was that he was charged with when the official you know,
charging documents came out. So so, yeah, I've heard the
same thing you have been that that there were other
people at the scene that you know, another person ran
a red light allegedly instruct Canard Davis while he was
on his way to the airport, ironically to go to
Boston with the bya basketball team. So there's a lot
of stuff lying out there, but I'm not going to
report anything, at least in the pages of the Desert
News until it's actually in a court document or a
police report.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What was the official statement from Kevin Young, I believe
yesterday when he got in front of the media.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin was asked about it right up the taught
by Darnelle, but he was more at the general question
about his philosophy regarding discipline, and he did a good
job answering that and basically just told the guys, hey,
if you make a mistake, own up to it, and
you know, and do the right thing. Later I asked him,
you know, if he was allowed to speak on the
Davis situation, and he basically said, I know exactly what happened.
I know all the little details. But he said, the
school has asked me to let them be the public
voice or the comment on it. And so he said
that's where it stands right now, is he won't be
making comment on the details. But he did throw in
the fact that, hey, if the school opens it up
to me, I'd be more unwilling to talk about it.
So it sounds like, you know, Kevin, Kevin knows some stuff.
I guess you would say, Ben, that's out there and
maybe some of the stuff that we just discussed. And
he sounded fairly I don't know if defiant is the word.
It's the videos out there. You can probably people can
probably look it up if they want to, kind of
look at his whatever his body language, but he sounded
to me almost like a disgusted tone. If that's fair
or accurate. Over this thing. So yeah, that's that's kind
of what he said yesterday.
Speaker 3: So like his body leg which his reaction was one
you mentioned like defiance, But it sounds like he knows
all the details and probably has a little bit more
grace he said. You said he he was kind of,
you know, disgusted by maybe. I don't know, there's a
lot to take in there with what you just said.
Like I'll have to go back and watch the video
obviously and listen to it, but I guess it's no
wonder that Cannard Davis Junior pleaded not guilty to this situation.
Speaker 2: There could be more details coming out here shortly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I even when it right after
it happened. I've cautioned people to not rush the judgment,
so wait till all the facts and details come out.
A lot of people when they see the letters d U,
I automatically think it was drunk driving, And yeah, it
wasn't as far as they you know, there's no no
no mention of alcohol in the in the citation, it's marijuana,
so obviously that can be ingested in many different forms.
So yeah, I just think it's best that everybody just
kind of wait until these details slowly trickle out and
then go from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to take in, no doubt about it.
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what do you think Cana Davis Junior is going to
be back? Any any postulation, any, any prognostication in that regard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any. I did ask Kevin that
or I said something like safe to assume that he
won't play Friday. That probably wasn't the best choice of word,
you know, if you wanted a better answer, So my
bad on that, but that's the way I phrased it.
And he said safe, yes, or something like that. In
other words, yeah, yeah, he probably won't be playing Friday.
But he said there's a lot of stuff to be
still be sorted out, which we just discussed so yeah,
who knows. I just I don't know. I just I mean,
obviously BYU is a different university, a different institution than
almost any other university in the country, with the honor
code and that sort of thing. So yeah, it would
just be pure speculation on my part to guess when
he's coming back or if he's coming back. I should
also add.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what impact is there? So we have a couple
of we have attrition here. We have Night Pickets, who's
out for the season due to injury. Kepaketa has been concussed.
We don't know when he's going to be back. Can
our Davis Junior don't know what he's going to be back.
What do you make of the roster right now? And
not having those three guys on the roster? How do
that impact? How does that impact BYU's wins and losses
early in the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have a huge impact. I mean, you
know they're gonna obviously they're already a little fin on
the guard line, especially point guard, back up point guard
without Nate Pickens, so that they've been that way basically
since the season started with Rob Wright having and being
able to play a lot of minutes and being kind
of an iron man and doing well at that. So
so Dawson Baker's kind of moved in and played a
little bit more of that point guard. But now with
Canar Davis out, Dawson Baker got the start the last
two games Tuesday against Delaware and then Saturday against Yukon.
Has done well and now so so they get the
little Finn there at that spot, kind of the two
guard spot, and now h and now with Kevi going
down there really really sin at center. I mean, they're
basically going to have to use a freshman Xavier on
Statton that as I'm assuming he will start. I don't know,
maybe the Heilo Boskovich will start, although he's not really
a true center. They've got him listed as a forward.
He's more of a perimeter player, probably more of a
power forward type player. So they're sin. It's no question
this is a really bad time to be sin too,
because obviously November I wrote about this a little while ago.
November is the by far a harder month than December.
Is all these tough games are lining up in November,
and to not be at full strength is really going
to hamper there when the net rankings come out in
December early December. You know, it's going to hamper those
net rankings unless they somehow pull off these wins. And
but it's going to be an uphill battle schedules that difficult.
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Speaker 3: Jay, As far as BA football is concerned, how optimistic
are you that do by you can go into Nippert
Stadium and come out and hopefully have some style points
to boot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point, I you know, I'm thinking just
when baby is probably the biggest sentiment that most BYU
fans at this point, at this juncture, you know, just
basically win the next two games and then kind of
let the the you know, let what is the saying,
let the bricks fall where they may or whatever?
Speaker 3: I can't remember that old click howeverumbles right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and but but yeah, first things first, this is
a tough game. Cincinnati, until until Utah stomp, donhom was
top twenty team and looking really good.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Every every indication is they're getting two key offlimpsive weapons back,
a running back and a receiver back who missed the
Utah game and and the Arizona game. I think one
of them missed the Utah game and both of them
missed the Earth the Arizona loss, So their offense should
be a little bit better with more weapons for Brandon
scores be so or Soresby excuse me.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's gonna be a tough game.
I tell people all the time, it's hard to win
college football games on the road, especially power forward opponents.
Everybody's got scholarship guys, everybody's got talent, everybody's got good coaches.
So these these aren't gimmes by any stretch. And obviously
Cincinnati is gonna be pumped up. They got game day coming.
They're going to want to make amends for the lost
two years ago to BYU and to the for the
loss last week to get Arizona. So and they still
have something to play for with. You know, they're not
totally out of the Big Twelve championship game race yet either,
So I expect the Hornets nets Cincinnati and and uh,
you know, the Cougars better come out better than they
did against Texas Tech, or it could be a long
night for them.
Speaker 3: Jay Drew des Red News, Jay, best way to support
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my stuff work can be found at Deseret dot com,
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Speaker 2: Love it. Anything you're cooking up that's going to be
dropping here.
Speaker 4: Shortly, Yeah, not really. I got a little with preview
of Friday's Wisconsin BYU basketball game, and then I'll be
writing kind of a piece about Cincinnati BYU at Cincinnati
that'll publish Friday afternoon, kind of looking back at the
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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Jay, Thanks for having me on A
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Speaker 5: How you living doing off?
Speaker 2: How you guys doing fantastic? How you feeling about them coogs?
Speaker 3: You're feeling optimistic after that dominating win over the TCU
horn Frogs.
Speaker 5: I am feeling great. I'm obviously a little nervous that
whether we get a shot at the playoff or not,
But I my blue doggle takes as always think that
it's not impossible for us to be tech. I think
too many people are already just defeat us, that we're
gonna get to that conference championship game and still not
be able to win. I'm not saying I think that
it's a guarantee win, but I definitely think it's possible
more than maybe some of the fan base thinks it is.
Speaker 2: One at a time, Bradon one out of top.
Speaker 3: BYU's only a two and a half point favorite versus
the Bearcats, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: I think the team's coming in with I guess maybe.
I hope the team comes with the same urgency they
did last week for TCU. I think they know there's
unfinished business, and I think that Tech loss really refocused
them and got them to spot where I don't think
they're gonna take any any game. For granted, me as
a fan, I'm taking it. I'm not taking any game
one game at a time. I'm going playoff or bust.
But just kidding no, I really do think that the
team's gonna look at it the right way and go
into this distancy game. I'm ready to the pounds and
go and dominate the game. Honestly, I'm not saying they're
going to but I think there that's the mindset. I
think they do end up winning by.
Speaker 3: A score or two, so the ramifications of a loss
are dire for BYU fans.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be bear mungering here.
Speaker 3: I want to move forward with faith obviously, but there's
a lot of tie breaking scenarios that you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to be a part of. Right now, you're
the master around destinay.
Speaker 3: Last year BYU flailed, they found folly on the back
end of their schedule, losing to Kansas and ASU.
Speaker 2: What makes you believe that.
Speaker 3: That Texas Tech loss will turn into a second loss
with Cincinnati on the road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think I think you're definitely right
that it's well. Do not want to get in a
tiebreaker scenario because I think and I know the tiebreaker
scenarios are all crazy complicated. But I think as soon
as we go down to those two losses where all
of a sudden, now in a spot where I think
few times have the tiebreaker over us just based on
strength to schedule and things like that. So I don't
feel I feel like they learned the lesson last year.
I think they're gonna come out and be able to
do it. I really think it's more of a yeah,
last year thing than it is the Tech thing. I
think the Tech woke them back up to it to
reminded them like where they're at. But I think last
year's situation is really what's motivating this team to keep
going forward. And that's why I have fates that are
really not going to drop the next two games, just
because I think they know how important it is and
how easy it can slip away from them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these tie breaking scenario is quite interesting. The Big
Twelve put it out officially. The following steps will be
used as the tie breaker procedures to determine the participants
for the twenty twenty five Edward Jones Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: Football Championship Game.
Speaker 3: If two teams are tied in the Big Twelve standings
conference games, only, the following steps will be taken until
a determination is made.
Speaker 2: Listen to this Brandon Day.
Speaker 3: The Tide teams will be compared based on their head
to head record during the season who won the head.
Speaker 2: To head right. B.
Speaker 3: The Tide teams will be compared based on the win
percentage against all common conference opponents. C. The Tide teams
will be compared based on the winning percentage against the
next highest placed Common opponent in the standings based on
the record in all games played within the conference.
Speaker 2: Proceeding through the standings.
Speaker 3: D the Tide teams will be compared based on the
combined winning percentage in conference games of conference opponents. E.
The Tie teams will be compared based on the total
number of wins in a twelve game season. And then
F the representative will be chosen based on the highest
ranking by Sports Analytics the team Rating score metric following
the last weekend of regular season games. And then gee, Jason,
the representative will be chosen by a coin toss.
Speaker 2: There you have it.
Speaker 5: But I guess are they saying that there's a chance
that that Sports Reference or whatever it was is gonna
have the exact same ranking at that point? So that's
I can't guess. You get that that last one, like
I get where all of those other ones could ethnically
have things, But couldn't that that rating system should always
have the same I guess, yeah, but that's crazy. And
then and that's the thing, right, so head to head
even if if let's say Cincy, if we do lose
this game, you can't go to head to head because
we lose to Cincy. We beat Utah, Utah beat Cincy.
There's not a that that type break cris scenario doesn't work,
and so I understand the kind of why they have
to go to those next steps. Yeah, we don't want
to have to deal with that, and I think that's
the thing we lost out last year due to due
to type breaker scenarios, and I just don't I don't
think this team's gonna allow that to happen again this year.
Speaker 3: Much of the rhetorics surrounding BYU right now is that
they just weren't competitive in that Texas Tech game, and
that's why they don't deserve to be higher than the
eleventh spot into College Football Playoff. You look at like
Equity and like these brands right over a long period
of time, and you know, Notre Dame is always gonna
get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: You know, Miami's gonna get the benefited out sometimes.
Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of these brands, Alabama and
the SEC, they're always gonna get the benefit of the doubt.
And by is not there yet despite over the last
two years, Like right now, they're collective record over the
last year's twenty and three, that's the best of the
Big twelve. And all we're talking about is margin of
victory and that Texas Tech game B. Why you wins
too many games that are too close? And they lost
that Texas Tech game by too many points?
Speaker 2: What do you make of all it?
Speaker 5: Can't remember? I've talked about this on the show, but
I here's my take on this. If the goal was
to win big, we would try and win big.
Speaker 4: But Kilane and a.
Speaker 5: Rod and j Hill, I think they have a collective
like their ideas winning is more important than winning big,
and so we're not going to risk put ourselves at
risk not winning the game in order to be extra
you know, aggressive in certain areas and throw picks and
do certain things like that that may make it so
we're winning games bigger. But if that were the goal
that we were going for, that was the actual job
to be done, then that's what we would do, and
I think we would show out different. But that's the
problem that I have with this is we're ranking everything
based on gain control and how you know, all these
different different metrics, not on the wins. But the actual
metric that we're asking the teams to do is win.
But are we actually asking that now? And that's where
I wonder kind of with Kilanie's statements this week, and
you know, winning is the most important. I agree, but
I do feel like that's becoming not as important as
the metrics, that margin of victory and all those different
things that are going on, or who you played, who
you lost to. But winning isn't as valued, but it
should be because that is what the job to be
done is. And if we had if we made the
other things the job to be done and that was
our goal. Arad was called the offense difference, we'd called
the defense different to gain those specific things and we
would look different analytically.
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Speaker 3: A couple last questions for all for you, for all
the Cougar fans to debate about. Look, b, why you
need someone in front of them to lose? Most likely,
even if you went out and you keep it competitive
versus Texas Tech. Let's say you lose that game in
the Big TOAL Championship game, you may not be going
to the College Football Playoff. You need Alabama to lose
maybe at Auburn in the Iron Bowl. You need Notre
Dame maybe to lose to maybe a Syracuse team who's
in the middle of the pack. You need Oklahoma possibly
to lose to UH. I think they they play what
LSU in Mississippi State. They got Mississippi State and LSU
one of those three teams. That's like my Tier one
guys like, hey, we need one of these two three
teams to lose. My Tier two is like, Okay, ole Miss.
I think Ole Miss could possibly lose Oregon, organ could
be possibly in two game USC. But even but does
a two lost Oregon team drop out of the top ten?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 4: Really, I mean, okay, I think they should.
Speaker 5: I guess I have no idea will But also I
also think Notre Dame shouldn't be where they are. But
but I really think with where there rings right this second,
I think if they lost another one, there is some
worry that USC all of a sudden then jumps back
in and they both just stay right there clumps. But
I think they I think that's our best bet truthfully,
are the most likely be Our best bet would be
having you know, Alabama loose again or something like that.
But I think having our most likely situation is that
USC could could pull that upside off in at Oregon
and do that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they look, they face a ranked USC team
and then they take their talents to Washington.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Look, if you go side by side, b Yu's resume
is better than Oregon's quite honestly. But whatever it is matter,
It doesn't matter the games you play. It's just about
how you're trending right now. It's how you're trending right now,
not what you did four or five, six, seven.
Speaker 2: Eight weeks ago. No more.
Speaker 3: It's about how you're trending and what conference you're a
part of. That's how the cookies crumbling this year anyway.
Speaker 5: And if the team and if the team you played
was ranked like number two when you played them, but
they're actually a physmal now, like we don't care, we
don't care what they are now. Like okay, so ec
U team, ECU team, but we played though everybody thought
was best that actually might go win to the American
Like what about that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So like if I'm looking at you know, I'm looking
at like these these resumes right now, Oregon versus b YU,
Oregon versus the current top twenty five oh one. Their
best win is against a six and four IOWA team.
Second best win is a six and four Minnesota team.
They lost at home to number two Indiana BYU's one
in one versus the current top twenty five best win
and one of those teams the one lost is a
top five team best win is number twelve Utah. Their
second best win is seven and three Arizona. And you
know that that seems like a better resume. I'll be honest, right,
come on, yeah, it is. For the love of all
that's holy, give me some love. Who's the most likely
to lose out of these teams? Do you think on
the back end, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Alabama or Oregon?
Speaker 5: What do you think of Oregon?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 5: I think Notre Dame is the one that would help
us the most of somehow they lost us because I
think they're already the most amount of their overrated the
most amount, so it'd be really hard to actually keep going.
But I just don't think they're going to lose their
last two games. They have played nobody outside of the
two teams they lost.
Speaker 3: To take on the number twenty two Miszoo Tigers and
then uh, they're at home both these games, so they
have Miszoo and LSU.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think I think Oregon's a little bit
more like Oregon's not tested either, and they're playing the
the the best team with also not being tested, where
I do think that Oklahoma has been more tested than
I think Oregon has, so I think there's more a
better chance that Oregon's more of a paper tiger than
then Oklahomas.
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Speaker 3: Talk about some of these games that BYU is hoping
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let's talk about some of these games. Ronald the three
man Weaver. I'm gonna pose the same similar question that
I pose to my guy Brydon Day, Where will the
losses come from? I am hoping, praying, fingers crossed that
there is a loss to be had amongst this group.
Speaker 2: This is my Tier one teams that I need a
loss from.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma, who's at eight and two, Notre Dame at eight
and two, and then Alabama at eight and two. Oklahoma
will have two home games, both tough ones in my opinion,
but winnable games. They take on Miszoo this next week,
number twenty two in the nation. Then they welcome LSU.
Both games present legit them in danger. I think Wazoo
brings physicality, athleticism. LSU brings also elite athletes in speed
into Oklahoma. Colombus defenses played extremely well, though they're a
good football team. No IF's answer butts about it, but
you got those two games. Notre Dame is has a
little bit easier schedule, not as difficult. They're gonna be
taken on like the most likely game that they guess
they could lose is probably the Syracuse game, most likely,
I would say, but they do have two games remaining
as well. It would be a bit of a surprise
to have them lose two games. You're just hoping for
one though, fingers crossed one, and I think most likely
it's gonna be that Syracuse game. Now, Syracuse is right
now middle of the pack. They've had their ups, they've
had their downs this season, but they're they're a decent
football team.
Speaker 2: They could shock If Stamford is the other one. I
don't know, it's a late night game, it's at.
Speaker 3: Stanford, Okay, So the Syracuse game is at home for
Notre Dame. They go on the road to Stanford. No
one shows up, all right, Actually the only thing that
does show up to Stanford games is bigotry, religious bigotry. Haha,
just kidding or am I? Anyway, Stanford could shock the world.
Maybe Stanford's gonna do a solid force because if you
beat BA already beat Stanford, and if Stamford beats Notre Dame,
we're in, Like Flynn.
Speaker 2: Whoever that is, Okay, we're in, baby, and all we gotta.
Speaker 3: Do is is not lose to Cincinnati and on the
road and not lose to UCF at home. So you
got that opportunity there intriguing, but not as maybe viable.
Notre Dame is most likely a lock in the top ten.
Now you have Alabama, they have the Iron Bowl. They're
gonna be at Auburn, Okay. And then I would say
my tier two teams. Yes, Ole Miss is intriguing. They
could lose two. I think they're at Mississippi State. Mississippi
State has shown decent at times. You got Oregon, They're
facing a ranked USC team at home, and then they
go on the road to Washington. At Washington that could
be a game that could get a little bit, a
little bit scary for him.
Speaker 2: Georgia is also another team.
Speaker 3: I don't think a two loss Georgia team drops out
of the top ten, but they could lose to Georgia Tech.
That game's at home, but Georgia sex's ranked right now.
Where do you see the losses coming? The most likely
to occur and why Ronald the three man Weaver?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben, I'm looking at this and I really was
thinking hard right, you know, And I guess you're more
likely upset scenario to happen this weekend. It's probably USC Oregan.
I don't even know if it's really an upset because
USC is a top fifteen team. I mean, pick could
also upset Georgia Tech, but that's not gonna affect BYU
and I'll but I just want to throw that in
there as a college football fan. No, Ben, I think
there's games on the schedule like Georgia Tech can beat
Georgia at home. Georgia has been proven to lose and
they do right, but that would not I don't think
they would knock Georgia out of the top ten if
it happened. I don't know how much it would help
BYU even the last weekend of the schedule, because they
played Charlotte this week. They played their cupcakes, so that'd
be tough. Even if they were to fall six spots,
they'd fall to number ten. So maybe it helps by
you get above. But I don't know Old Miss Mississippi State.
I'm gonnakinda throw that one out the door. I don't
know Mississippi's Old Miss would be coming off the buy
be more healthier.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Trnid As Good is a good quarterback, so I don't
know about that one. But if you had to ask
me to rank, give me Oregon losing to USC. That
could happen this weekend. Not saying it will, but that's possible.
Then they gotta go on the road to Washington. Those
are two tough games. And I think after that, if
you were to ask me, I probably rank you know,
Oklahoma next, you gotta play Missouri at home. Miss there's
a good football team. They're ranked, and then LSU SEC been.
You always gotta respect it. These SEC teams are good
and they can they can get you on any given day.
That's what I probably rank six, and then I probably
go third. I probably go Georgia Texas Tech because look,
Georgia Texas Tech is a good football team. Both of
those but Georgia Tech could have you out. So that's
how I'm looking at it. I think it's more likely Oregon.
If Oregon loses a USC ben you can't say, well, now,
well that's a quality loss to USC. You can't jump
USC over BYU. I don't think you can do that.
BAU has one loss, you can't. I don't think you
could have a two loss Oregon team and a two
loss USC team ahead of that. So that's your more
likely scenario and it's in the Big ten because they're
not gonna knock the SEC as much as they'll knock
the Big ten. They'll drop Big ten in my opinion,
but they won't drop I think the SEC as much.
So that's your likely scenario Oregon first. Then I'm gonna
go Oklahoma. I'm not even gonna say Alabama, really, I
don't think so. And then I'm gonna go Georgia after
that in that order.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fingers crossed right now. Like I would love
nothing more.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a part of me that wants Notre
Dame out, and there's a part of me that wants
to Notre Dame man. And I'll tell you why. Number One,
I do think it's it's good for business to have
Notre Dame in there. The other component is this, like
if they win two in a row to finish the
season Syracuse, Stanford, it's not gonna necessarily elevate them, but
if someone loses ahead of them, they could jump in
front of them. So, for instance, if Georgia lost in
Georgia Tech, I don't think they're dropping it at the
top ten, but they would move ahead, and I would
love nothing more. Than to have BYU and Notre Dame
seated against each other. I mean, I need that BYU
is a better football team than they were the last
go around. And quite honestly, Bo, you matched up really
well versus Notre Dame in Vegas, and I feel like
they got away with one. Like I feel like we
should have won that one. I really do, Like deep
down in myloin's in the plums in my bosom, I
feel like we should have beat the fighting Irish.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 3: I want to stick it to that fighting Irish because
I feel like they had a lot of pompish.
Speaker 2: Nature in there.
Speaker 3: They didn't want that home at home actual they didn't
want to come back to Provo, and we had handled
them in l in two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: They don't want none of that action, boss. So I
don't know. I go back and forth with that.
Speaker 3: Oregon to me is an interesting setting because their resume
already isn't as good as Byus. So like I'm leaning
towards Oregon because it's like, Okay, well they're gonna take
on USC. They're gonna be at home. That's a that's
a tough environment. That's a tough environment. They may beat
USC at home, but they may lose to Washington.
Speaker 2: Okay, now the question is because they're on the road.
Washington a good football team. I think.
Speaker 3: If you lose to If Oregon loses to Washington, they're
at number seven right now. They beat USC, they may
move up. I don't know how much, depending on what's
in front of them. Would they drop out of the
top ten. Does a two loss Oregon team drop out
of the top ten?
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just like they want Oregon there, They want ole
Miss there, they want Notre Dame there, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2: They want Alabama there.
Speaker 3: Idealistically, it would be glorious for me because of like
how powerful Alabama has been in the modern era. Like
I'm leaning towards Alabama losing to Auburn. But I don't
know if Auburn has the firepower. But they're at Auburn.
Auburn's fourteen in the SEC this year. But you're like
fingers crossed, maybe magic can happen. Now has Auburn been
competitive in these in these games that they've lost at
their four and six right now? For and six their losses,
they started the season strong. They beat Baylor thirty eight
to twenty four. They beat Ball State forty two to three,
and then they beat South Alabama thirty one to fifteen.
They lost Oklahoma it was close, twenty four to seventeen,
a one lost game. They lost to Texas A and
M sixteen to ten. One loss game, Georgia twenty to ten,
a ten point loss. Miszoo in double overtime. Auburn lost
twenty three to seventeen. Another one score game. They beat
Arkansas a couple of weeks ago, thirty three to twenty four.
Speaker 2: They lost to Kentucky after that ten to.
Speaker 3: Three once again another one loss bit and then Vanderbilt
forty five to thirty eight in ot does Auburn have
any juice? Les jeez for the iron ball? Just one
score game? So I am hoping like they are a
good point. Actually they're they're playing for ball eligibility right now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's the game they win.
Speaker 2: They have to get in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so they'll beat Mercer. Okay, they're coming off
of bye week right now. They got Mercer. So I
am I hope I pray that that bye week was
focused on the Crimson tide, right Like you're you're barely
in premity. You don't want too far ahead. But they
should be able to beat Mercer. I don't think Mercer
is very good this year. Oh actually, Marcy's good.
Speaker 2: They they're nine to one right now. Sh well, you could.
You can't look past Mercer. You could. You could lose
the Mercer to not situation this year.
Speaker 3: But anyway, anyway, anyway, so you got Alabama and you're
at home, and you could place spoiler, you could play
spoil it.
Speaker 2: You could get bull eligible.
Speaker 3: And play spoiler to oust Alabama out of.
Speaker 2: The cold from play for the second year in a row.
I'm picking. I'm picking Auburn, baby, that's my team. I'm
wrong with it. They're gonna knock off the Crimson time.
Oh how glorious that would be.
Speaker 3: We would have joined Nick Saban's gonna be pulling out
his hair that he's trying to regrow.
Speaker 2: Because he's thinning, just like I am in my old age. Auburn,
I need you.
Speaker 3: I would love it like that would be a sign
to me of a number of things, right, not that
Alabama has fallen from grace, but.
Speaker 2: That times are changing. Times have changed.
Speaker 3: And there's a reason why Nick Samon said, peace, I'm out.
It's not sustainable anymore. I can't do this. Can'ley come
on in, you can. You can try. Give it a whirl,
give it your best shot. A five and six Auburn
team beating Alabama. Oh, talk about celestial college football chaos.
Speaker 6: Would Alabama be cursed at that point a little bit
by Auburn, because that'd be twice like that. I have seen,
you know, the kickoff by Chris Davis.
Speaker 2: As a long time ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well but I remember that as a kid though,
Like I remember watching that game with my dad, so
that and then, and obviously it's different now, but like
Auburn taking Alabama, it would matter way more now. But
that'd be crazy that in this lifetime span I've been alive,
I will saying Alabama get waxed twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say so.
Speaker 3: Alabama's on a five game winning streak right now, five
game winning streak for the lost the last uh so
the last three wins Okay, twenty thirteen, twenty seventeen, and
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Auburn's do baby, It's not their best team.
Speaker 3: Typically, when Auburn beats Alabama, they're a top twenty five team,
that's the problem. But Auburn has been competitive in every
single game that they've lost. They've never been blown out.
They've always been competitive. They're keeping it respectable. And so
maybe there's enough juice left in that Orange right to
knock off the Crimson Tide.
Speaker 2: Oh, give it to me for Thanksgiving? Give it to
me for Christmas? Can can I say you've been used
to Christmas? Right?
Speaker 6: How about let's go bigger Thanksgiving Christmas? What about Oregon
losing one of its last two games out of the
top ten, and is when you lose two, Alabama losing
to Auburn, and then and then you add Oklahoma losing
one of these games.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean if all losing a game, that'd be nice.
Now in Oklahoma's got it tough, it's not like they
so I bring it up. Yeah, I guarantee man, Miszoo
and LSU those are good football team. Zoo's never been
blown I can't hear you. I can't even hear you.
You gotta put your mic up in front of your mouth,
VIC and say something.
Speaker 7: Missouri hasn't been blown out either, So don't be surprised
if Missouri goes in there and knocks out Oklahoma because
you know they're tough and they played these teams tough
Alabama twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 2: Come on, Zoo's tough.
Speaker 3: Zoos a good football team. Never know, hey, man, keep it,
keep it right at Maszoo's trying to get in on
the action.
Speaker 6: Can I play uh?
Speaker 2: Can I play E? Or can I?
Speaker 5: Can I do that?
Speaker 2: Can I do that?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: Fans? Please?
Speaker 6: I know you listen, don't roast me, but Ben, this
would be the worst thing in the world for Oklahoma
to lose this weekend, Oregon to lose this weekend, you
know where I'm going with this, and then BYU this weekend.
If that were to happen, fans might cry. Been fans
by what fans might cry like if Oregon were to lose,
If Oklahoma were to lose, and by You were to
lose this weekend BYU, fans would cry, that ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Well, look, look this is the thing I mean.
Speaker 3: Look, BYU has not been able to get out of
the hump in the you know, post nineteen ninety six.
That's why I bring it up right, So it's it's
been it's been a while since you've been able to
play after New Year's and that's what you're hoping for
right now. You're hoping to be a part of the
college football playoff and do something that you've never There's
only been one other season that you've done it, and
that was ninety six, right, And you could say eighty
four was in the national championship game, but it was
that the bowl game was against a solid Michigan team
and everyone lost in front of you, So you were
dumbed by the media as the national champion, which is awesome.
Speaker 2: Like we will continually revere that eighty four team.
Speaker 3: One of the best in BA football history, maybe the
best in BA football history. But I would love nothing
more to get over the hump and break the curse. Right,
we'll go to break guys, don't go anywhere. Great segment.
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