Speaker 1: That takes us to item number fourteen. Number fourteen is
Speaker 1: to discuss and take possible action to approve a resolution
Speaker 1: pertaining to public safety, loot acts in public protest, and
Speaker 1: the constitutional rights of the public in public spaces. This
Speaker 1: will be presented initially. I'm sure there'll be discussion with
Speaker 1: my mister black Bailey, our city manager.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Eric. So I've got a presentation that actually
Speaker 2: goes through this resolution in detail, because I think it's
Speaker 2: important that we go through and make sure that more
Speaker 2: the public than the council is clear on exactly what
Speaker 2: it is that's being proposed. Before I do that, I
Speaker 2: kind of wanted to get into the history for the
Speaker 2: public's benefit as to how this even came about. So
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, I believe, was when we had
Speaker 2: the last public directions that try was and after that
Speaker 2: there was a public outcry and of course this city
Speaker 2: Council went through a period of examination to determine what
Speaker 2: we could do based on legal precedents, and it was
Speaker 2: fairly undeveloped at that point in time. There were states,
Speaker 2: and there were cities, and there were other jurisdictions that
Speaker 2: were attempting to enter into regulations and we were uncertain
Speaker 2: how those were going to go. As it started to develop,
Speaker 2: it developed largely the way that we thought it would.
Speaker 2: The courts were upholding the constitutional rights of the performers,
Speaker 2: and so regardless of public opinion, or regardless of personal
Speaker 2: opinion or the council's personal opinion, the reality was that
Speaker 2: the courts were protecting the rights of performers. So that
Speaker 2: was the legal environment we were operating under. Fast forward
Speaker 2: two years, we're here again, this Will and the Barlsville
Speaker 2: Equality which used to be Alclahms for Equality. Barlsville has
Speaker 2: announced that they're going to hold a public drag show
Speaker 2: on September fourteenth this year. I got to day right
Speaker 2: on September fourteenth that year, so with that the city Council,
Speaker 2: once we were informed of this, the major concerns revolved
Speaker 2: around the safety of the public. And what we have
Speaker 2: seen in the past as it related to these performances
Speaker 2: is that they do draw protest, and while both the
Speaker 2: performance and the protest are protected under our Constitution in
Speaker 2: the first Amendment, both of those are subject to certain
Speaker 2: rules and regulations intended to protect the public. So that
Speaker 2: was the environment that we were all operating under. Over
Speaker 2: the last few weeks, I've had a number of conversations
Speaker 2: with city council members, and so this resolution, while I'm
Speaker 2: presenting it, while I helped to draft it, it was
Speaker 2: done at the request of the City Council, and so
Speaker 2: I say this as much for the public's knowledge as
Speaker 2: your own. You're all well aware I've had a lot
Speaker 2: of conversations with all of you this I believe this
Speaker 2: resolution incorporates all the feedback that I've received in one
Speaker 2: on one conversations with you all, and that is where
Speaker 2: we find ourselves tonight. Now, a resolution is not an ordinance.
Speaker 2: It doesn't carry the weight of law. A resolution is
Speaker 2: only expressing the will of the council, and so that's
Speaker 2: exactly what this does. Resolution is typically composed two parts,
Speaker 2: so there will be a ware ass section and an
Speaker 2: ware ass section essentially the story of the resolution is taught,
Speaker 2: and then there will be a section that is that follows.
Speaker 2: Now therefore be a resolve by the City Council of
Speaker 2: the City of Partsville, and that's the section that actually
Speaker 2: has some degree of weight or a required action. So
Speaker 2: we're going to start tonight by going through the were
Speaker 2: ass is just so that we're all on the same
Speaker 2: page and the first so this is the entire resolution
Speaker 2: is on here. So if you have not had an
Speaker 2: opportunity to review this yet, you will have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to review it with me. I will read it word
Speaker 2: from work. It's available for the public. It's available in
Speaker 2: the Council's packet, so anyone who cares to know what
Speaker 2: is in the resolution is certainly available for you. That
Speaker 2: was interesting. We've got a little bit of feedback there
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. So the first thing in any
Speaker 2: resolution I said was the whareas, But actually the title
Speaker 2: is the first required part of any resolution, and so
Speaker 2: this one essentially is titled the Resolution to the City
Speaker 2: Council the City of Marlsville pertaining the Public Safety, Loot
Speaker 2: Acts in public protest the Constitutional rights of the public
Speaker 2: in public spaces. So if that's all you read, then
Speaker 2: you probably have a misunderstanding of what it is that
Speaker 2: we're here to do tonight. The whereas is then layout
Speaker 2: a lot of what I just discussed with you on
Speaker 2: It gives a little bit of the history, It describes
Speaker 2: the legal environment, It discusses the rights and obligations of
Speaker 2: all the parties involved in this, and I believe that
Speaker 2: I think as we go through this, everyone will see
Speaker 2: that this is very fair and balance and it is
Speaker 2: very much within our legal authority as a city, which
Speaker 2: is a great concern. So while there is a concern
Speaker 2: for the public safety, there is also concern over us
Speaker 2: not exceeding our legal authority. I think that everyone in
Speaker 2: this room, in fact is a champion of limited government,
Speaker 2: that everyone on this diaceis, and so that is we
Speaker 2: are trying to accomplish only what is within our forty
Speaker 2: to accomp So with that said, we as I said,
Speaker 2: this kind of tells the story. This tells the story
Speaker 2: of the resolution. So the first point is that this
Speaker 2: started because there was a Pride celebration and it did
Speaker 2: have a public drag show back in September tenth of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. After that there was a large concern
Speaker 2: or there were a large number of concerns expressed by
Speaker 2: the public and the council was requested to look into
Speaker 2: this and act on them. So the next one is
Speaker 2: essentially to talk about the duty of the city council,
Speaker 2: And the city council has two of their highest duties
Speaker 2: are number one and in fact, you all took an
Speaker 2: oath of this and we just recognized constitution week. Both
Speaker 2: of those things are your highest duties, and it is
Speaker 2: specifically to uphold the constitutional rights of all people under
Speaker 2: your jurisdiction. This doesn't matter whether these are people who
Speaker 2: you agree with or not. It is still our obligation
Speaker 2: of all the rights. So that's the first framework. The
Speaker 2: second framework is that one the other highest duty of
Speaker 2: the city Council is protect the public and to protect
Speaker 2: the public safety. And so that goes into the third one,
Speaker 2: which is essentially the council recognizing that it is enshrined
Speaker 2: in our constitution the right to assemble to peaceably a symbol.
Speaker 2: That is an important component of this obviously is to
Speaker 2: peaceably a symbol. Now that is both for celebration and protest.
Speaker 2: So we are recognizing the rights of everyone who might
Speaker 2: be involved in this, whether it be an attendee, a performer,
Speaker 2: or a protester. It is a given under our constitution
Speaker 2: that they all have equal rights. So then we start
Speaker 2: to get down into a little bit of the legal environment.
Speaker 2: And if you all have specific questions about this on
Speaker 2: the fur and the jest, but I can think I
Speaker 2: can summarize it adequately. The first, and I think one
Speaker 2: of the most important points on this is that during
Speaker 2: that period of which there was regulation being proposed for
Speaker 2: drag performances, the state of Oklahoma considered two separate bills
Speaker 2: that were intended to regulate drag performances. It was Center
Speaker 2: Built fivel oh III in House Built twenty one eighty six.
Speaker 2: It is my understanding they were advised that the regulations
Speaker 2: that they were proposing were unconstitutional and that as a result,
Speaker 2: they elected not to proceed with those I think that
Speaker 2: that is then supported by all of the jurisprudence that
Speaker 2: has occurred since then. So we have listed all of
Speaker 2: the really relevant cases. There's five of them up here.
Speaker 2: I want to go into detail of them. I'll just
Speaker 2: sort of summarize that all of the jurisprudence at this
Speaker 2: point in time is indicating that drag is protected expression
Speaker 2: under the First Amendment of the Constitution. So again, absolute
Speaker 2: personal feelings and how we would wish this to be
Speaker 2: the law of the land. The highest law of the
Speaker 2: land at this point in time recognizes it as protected speech,
Speaker 2: protected expression, So that is what these cases are. Essentially.
Speaker 2: All of these cases have not ended favorably for the
Speaker 2: regulatory body who is attempting to regulate drag as it
Speaker 2: relates to the First Amendment. They are all I think
Speaker 2: it's important to note that they are all in various
Speaker 2: states of appeal. I think that this ultimately will probably
Speaker 2: be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States,
Speaker 2: and at that point in time we will have final
Speaker 2: guidance on what this landscape looks like. But this is
Speaker 2: where we are today. These five cases in particular, have
Speaker 2: all been mentioned at various times. The city Attorney has
Speaker 2: kept you up to date on anything that has occurred
Speaker 2: with these over time, and again, if you have specific
Speaker 2: questions about those, I'm sure Jess can answer them, but
Speaker 2: I will bore everyone with going into the details of it.
Speaker 2: So the next part of the story is that even
Speaker 2: though both of these things are protected speech, that they
Speaker 2: are protected by our Constitution, they are subject to reasonable limitations.
Speaker 2: So specifically we have listed the types of limitations that
Speaker 2: could and it doesn't necessarily mean that these things have occurred.
Speaker 2: It simply these are things that could limit freedom of expression.
Speaker 2: And so in particular, there are several state statutes and
Speaker 2: several local ordinances that apply. There are prohibitions against disturbing
Speaker 2: the peace. There are prohibitions against indecent exposures of genitals
Speaker 2: in a public place. There are prohibitions of not only
Speaker 2: disturbing the peace of the municipal Code, but also prohibits
Speaker 2: exposing children to loud in Lacivia's acts. Now, when it
Speaker 2: comes to loud in the Sivia's acts, these have legal definitions,
Speaker 2: and so again, absent feelings and whether or not we
Speaker 2: think that what has occurred was loud in Lacivia's, these
Speaker 2: all have legal definitions. And again, as we have seen
Speaker 2: in these previous cases, regardless of what we thought was
Speaker 2: lud or is, the courts have not agreed. And so
Speaker 2: that is where we are is understanding that yes, these
Speaker 2: limitations exist, but they do. All of these things have
Speaker 2: legal have legal definitions, and they might not agree with
Speaker 2: what our personal definitions are for these things, but that's
Speaker 2: the way the law works. So keeping all of that
Speaker 2: in mind, the Council also recognizes that protesters and counter
Speaker 2: protesters have a right to assemble peaceably, but again they
Speaker 2: are also limited by certain things. In particular, the things
Speaker 2: that are more relevant are again deserving the peace, and
Speaker 2: then there are also constitutionally supported restrictions on reasonable time,
Speaker 2: place and manner. This is those areas are very difficult
Speaker 2: and that they're fraught with peril because we get into
Speaker 2: constitutional law. However, reasonable time, place and manner telling the
Speaker 2: protesters that you need to protest in this space and
Speaker 2: keeping them separate from the event, and also keeping the
Speaker 2: counter protesters separate from the protesters. Those are all reasonable time, place,
Speaker 2: and manner restrictions. Those are not content based. That's specifically
Speaker 2: focused on both safety, so we have the right to
Speaker 2: restrict based on those things, and then getting into the
Speaker 2: events that are occurring. That honestly led us to tonight.
Speaker 2: There is a public outdoor drag event plan for the
Speaker 2: Pride celebration on September fourth of this year, so that's
Speaker 2: later this month. We also expect a protest at that
Speaker 2: and in the past when there has been a protest
Speaker 2: at a Pride event, there has been a counter protest.
Speaker 2: And again, my personal feelings, your personal feelings, they don't
Speaker 2: really play into it because all of those parties have
Speaker 2: a right to do that. They have a right to protest,
Speaker 2: they have a right to counter protest, they have a
Speaker 2: right to assemble in celebration. So all of these things
Speaker 2: are perfectly lawful events that do suffer from some restrictions.
Speaker 2: The concerns as it relates to those are the possibility
Speaker 2: of public safety. And I will say, and have told
Speaker 2: this council before, I do have great concerns about public
Speaker 2: safety implications for everyone involved, whether it be protesters, attendees, performers,
Speaker 2: or counter protesters. There have been I think valid threats
Speaker 2: against all parties, So I have some concerns about that.
Speaker 2: That leads us into the next one, the city Council's
Speaker 2: need concerned about the public safety. You all share that
Speaker 2: this is not my fear alone, this is one that
Speaker 2: you all share. So the final part of this is
Speaker 2: essentially what the city council was doing. And so the
Speaker 2: city council is providing guidance, actually providing direction to myself,
Speaker 2: and I will provide that to the city, to the
Speaker 2: chief of police. The chief of police will then assemble
Speaker 2: an operations plan, assuming that this is adopted, that will
Speaker 2: follow the guidelines that are laid out. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of the story that let us down to what I
Speaker 2: told you before. Now therefore be it resolved by the
Speaker 2: City Council of the City of Barlsville. Back so this
Speaker 2: is now the wishes of the Council, and in particular
Speaker 2: you are providing direction to me. There's five points. This
Speaker 2: is actually the shortest part of the resolution. Believe it
Speaker 2: or not, it's relatively succame. But there are five points.
Speaker 2: The first of which is a sufficient number of officers
Speaker 2: shall be assigned to Unity Square and surrounding areas set
Speaker 2: aside for protest to ensure the safety of protesters and
Speaker 2: participants a lot. So this is essentially this is a
Speaker 2: patrol of the area. So this is the first assignment
Speaker 2: that the Council has asked that the police undertake. This
Speaker 2: is a general assignment to patrol the area to ensure
Speaker 2: the public safety of all involved. I think this helps
Speaker 2: to address the concerns in particular that I have. So
Speaker 2: then under each of these, by the way, there will
Speaker 2: be three assignments that you all have decided upon. One
Speaker 2: of this is the first one, and then all of
Speaker 2: the others will look a lot like this with their
Speaker 2: sub bullet points. Essentially, you all would like for all
Speaker 2: officers to receive training so that they understand specifically the
Speaker 2: laws and regulations as they relate to the society. And
Speaker 2: so we've identified some of those laws and those rules
Speaker 2: and the things that are going to be particularly applicable.
Speaker 2: We train our officers all the time, and we do
Speaker 2: a really good job of training our officers, but this
Speaker 2: event could be very high tension, and so in order
Speaker 2: to ensure that we do the best job that we can,
Speaker 2: you have asked that they receive specific and a high
Speaker 2: level of specific training related to desires. Also, you have
Speaker 2: then talked about officers assigned such duties shall be responsible
Speaker 2: for enforcement of all public service laws, preserving the rights
Speaker 2: of protesters, and ensuring the safety of all involved. You
Speaker 2: are also asking that we have open communication. This has
Speaker 2: actually started. I was in contact with one of the
Speaker 2: protesters who had notified every day that he planned to participate.
Speaker 2: I directed him to the Chief of police, who will
Speaker 2: be responsible for the operations plan. That way they can
Speaker 2: communicate and there shouldn't be in surprises today. Up, I
Speaker 2: know that the chief has also reached out to Barnesville.
Speaker 2: Quality of the organization is putting this one for the
Speaker 2: same purpose. Support I say he has or he will.
Speaker 2: And so that's the first one. The second one, as
Speaker 2: I said, these all look very simple, very similar, and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm misstated on this one. This is specifically
Speaker 2: you really ask me to have officers assigned to the
Speaker 2: area of protest. In particular, you wanted that so that
Speaker 2: we can help to prevent any public safety issues that
Speaker 2: might occur as tensions rise between protesters account of contests.
Speaker 2: So that first group will be assigned primarily to the
Speaker 2: area of the protest. The second group is what I
Speaker 2: described earlier. This is actually a group to patrol the
Speaker 2: entire premises are there with the purpose of ensuring public safety,
Speaker 2: and so and again we're requesting that they receive a
Speaker 2: high level of training specific to their duty, which their
Speaker 2: duty again is general security and patrol to ensure the
Speaker 2: safety of all involved. And then the final one is
Speaker 2: the same as before that we are encouraging and requesting
Speaker 2: open communication with all parties to try to ensure this
Speaker 2: is the smooth as possible it am number three again,
Speaker 2: sufficient number of officers. Now this one is unique to
Speaker 2: this performance, and it is specifically that you have requested
Speaker 2: that police officers shall be assigned to observe the performance.
Speaker 2: And by performance, I assume that what we're talking about
Speaker 2: here is the drag show, since that is the one
Speaker 2: that has generated some public concern. Again, these officers will
Speaker 2: be assigned to this duty, they'll get a high level
Speaker 2: of training in things that are particular to them. So
Speaker 2: we typically partner with the DA's office. We're hoping that
Speaker 2: he will provide that training. Expecting, I think Chief that
Speaker 2: the DA will provide that training. And so he will
Speaker 2: train us specifically on leudiness, on loot acts in accordance
Speaker 2: with the law. Again, these all have to be based
Speaker 2: on the law and exist depreshmen. So he will provide
Speaker 2: training on that. He'll provide training on exposure, disturbing the piece,
Speaker 2: all of those things that are relevant to this specific
Speaker 2: group officers and a side of this, and so they
Speaker 2: will they'll be responsible. They got specific responsibilities that we
Speaker 2: talked about, and this is dealing with public decency laws,
Speaker 2: preserving the rights of performers and event organizers. Deep in
Speaker 2: mind this is that everyone has everyone deserves our protection
Speaker 2: that's under our jurisdiction. And then the safety of performers
Speaker 2: and spectators. So again open communication is encouraged. Bullet point
Speaker 2: number four, you all have requested that all officers that
Speaker 2: are on duty at this time have a body warm
Speaker 2: camera and then it be on at all times, I
Speaker 2: think that this is sound. These events, especially when you're
Speaker 2: talking about protesters and counter protesters. It doesn't matter whether
Speaker 2: it is a Pride event or if it is a rally.
Speaker 2: These generate high tension. No one remembers exactly what occurred,
Speaker 2: that they remembered how they felt, and so when someone
Speaker 2: makes a plane typically what it is is based on
Speaker 2: how they felt. Having these cameras provides protection for our
Speaker 2: officers primarily, but it also provides a record of the
Speaker 2: event so that all allegations and concerns can be addressed
Speaker 2: by police administration. Myself. The final item is the city
Speaker 2: managers should make available and the Chief of Police all
Speaker 2: resources necessary to ensure the safety of the public, preserve
Speaker 2: the rights of all parties, and enforce all applicable rules
Speaker 2: and laws during this event. So that is essentially the resolution.
Speaker 2: I think that it is very well balanced towards preserving
Speaker 2: the rights of all involved, towards protecting the public safety,
Speaker 2: the public peace. And again I think that all of
Speaker 2: this and these are the conclusions after review, and the
Speaker 2: city attorney has also looked this over and given his
Speaker 2: opinion on it to me. But essentially, the first thing
Speaker 2: is is that all of the information and contained in
Speaker 2: the whereas clauses is true, that is all factual, and
Speaker 2: I think it lays out the case for not only
Speaker 2: our responsibilities and our obligations, but also our limitations, and
Speaker 2: I think it explains it very well. So understanding all
Speaker 2: of that, I also think that all of the instructions
Speaker 2: that are included the resolution are within our municipal authority.
Speaker 2: And I want to be careful of that. We are
Speaker 2: a municipal government, We have a high degree of responsibility,
Speaker 2: We have a tremendous amount of power. That all of
Speaker 2: the things that you have requested of myself to request
Speaker 2: of the police department are well within our municipal authority.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've colored in any gray areas. And
Speaker 2: then the final thing, and I think this is one
Speaker 2: of the most important as well, is that all of
Speaker 2: the things that you've asked of me are within our ability.
Speaker 2: There's been discussion about costs, there's been discussion about obligations,
Speaker 2: things of that nature. I would say that even absent
Speaker 2: this resolution, it would be unacceptable of me to not
Speaker 2: have a significan police presence at this event due to
Speaker 2: the potential damage to public safety. So we have always
Speaker 2: provided police presences, especially when there is a protest and
Speaker 2: a counter protest. We provide police presence. That is not
Speaker 2: at the request of an event organizer. It is not
Speaker 2: as an advantage to an event organizer. It simply is
Speaker 2: doing our job, one of which, and again one of
Speaker 2: our highest duties, is to preserve the public peace, protect
Speaker 2: public safety. So I believe that the resolution is fairly stated.
Speaker 2: I believe that the resolution is reasonable, and I believe
Speaker 2: that all of this will make our community safer and
Speaker 2: will ensure that all have to pull rules of law
Speaker 2: and fault that council. I'd be happy to answer any
Speaker 2: questions you have, although it came from you, somebode you
Speaker 2: should ask each other.
Speaker 1: There's a very thorough treatment of the subject. It is
Speaker 1: a subject that Elucid brings up great feelings, emotions. Sometimes
Speaker 1: my emotions overpower my logic and reason, and that is
Speaker 1: something to try to be careful and deal with this
Speaker 1: in a reasonable logical manner. I would note that has
Speaker 1: been mentioned that each member on this council takes an oath.
Speaker 1: I take oaths seriously. That oath is to uphold the Constitution,
Speaker 1: even if I don't agree with it. We can change laws,
Speaker 1: but we disobey and violate them at our own peril
Speaker 1: and in the case of this city Council, at the
Speaker 1: peril of the city citizens. It is very difficult to
Speaker 1: determine intent. We have talked about this at length in
Speaker 1: the last two years and if mister Kane will certainly
Speaker 1: correct me if I misstate, but those sorts of questions
Speaker 1: can only be settled in a court and not by
Speaker 1: this city Council to determine what someone's intent might be. Council,
Speaker 1: having heard mister Bailey's presentation of a subject, I know
Speaker 1: we would just as well talk about trash trucks are
Speaker 1: parks projects, but here we are. What are your thoughts,
Speaker 1: your questions?
Speaker 3: One thought I I have in addition to the resolution
Speaker 3: that you presented any we have several events that happen
Speaker 3: throughout the course of any given year, and those events
Speaker 3: have special event permits where they can use TI Green
Speaker 3: or Unity Squares is also known. Along with those permits
Speaker 3: or special event permits, city services are provided. And I
Speaker 3: know there's a lot of municipalities across the United States
Speaker 3: that have done probably research is to what the cost
Speaker 3: that goes into those across the board regardless of what
Speaker 3: the event is, and I would just ask that maybe
Speaker 3: city staff can do some additional research is to maybe
Speaker 3: what other municipalities have done so that the burden of
Speaker 3: the city services aren't absorbed completely by the city.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, in fact, we do have a special event
Speaker 2: process that we go through. It charges for some things,
Speaker 2: but perhaps not for everything that we have an option
Speaker 2: to and so I would be happy to do some research.
Speaker 2: I think it's important that we research that and then
Speaker 2: we determine the impact it would have on all of
Speaker 2: our events. As you said, we have a number of events,
Speaker 2: and so yes, I'd be happy to do that. I
Speaker 2: believe our next meeting would be in October and it
Speaker 2: shouldn't be an issue to have have that done before then.
Speaker 1: Everything the city does has a cost, and the decision
Speaker 1: is where does that cost land And there will be
Speaker 1: discussion and I'm sure dissension in the results, but it's
Speaker 1: a good discussion to.
Speaker 4: Have discussion top and we'll have that discussion at the
Speaker 4: appropriate time. I do want to I want us to
Speaker 4: take a moment to say thank you to our police department,
Speaker 4: to our city staff. Our police department does a fabulous job.
Speaker 2: Trusted fully and only.
Speaker 4: In them in the way they've handled all of these
Speaker 4: things to this point, every event that they attend. I
Speaker 4: want to thank the city staff for working with us
Speaker 4: and executing our wishes.
Speaker 2: And bringing this forward to us.
Speaker 4: I want to thank everybody who uses prop our facilities
Speaker 4: and our parks and everything else.
Speaker 2: They they take care with them. This organization is no different.
Speaker 4: They've taken care, They've followed through with every obligation and
Speaker 4: their protractual use of that and gone above and beyond
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. So I want to say
Speaker 4: thank you. This is what makes our community great. We
Speaker 4: all have differences of opinion, but we come here and
Speaker 4: we get to this point, and I truly feel this
Speaker 4: is a representation of work that's been done. And I
Speaker 4: don't think a lot of the public sees that this
Speaker 4: work goes on. The City Council and the city staff
Speaker 4: and the Police Department don't sit idly by and do
Speaker 4: nothing on these things. We work and we make sure
Speaker 4: that we represent all of our constituents in these matters.
Speaker 4: So thank you to our police department, thank you, our
Speaker 4: city staff, thank you to everybody.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you, I'll say.
Speaker 1: Anyone else we do have before us an action item
Speaker 1: if we choose to take action on this. I see
Speaker 1: this as a public safety regardless, as mister Bailey says,
Speaker 1: is where any of us might feel in our personal opinions.
Speaker 1: What is this municipality authorized, empowered and capable of doing
Speaker 1: to keep our people safe. There's over thirty seven thousand
Speaker 1: of us in this community, and I suspect there are
Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand opinions on any given subject. Council, what
Speaker 1: are your wishes?
Speaker 4: I would move that we adopt and approved the resolution
Speaker 4: as presented.
Speaker 1: I'll second that very good Councilmember Roselle has moved Councilmember
Speaker 1: ship Shipper has seconded emotion to approve this resolution as
Speaker 1: presented and discussed. Are there any other comments? Are there
Speaker 1: any questions.
Speaker 2: You like? Mister Rose Alight, mister Univers, Mister.
Speaker 1: Eric Holmer, Ah, that is approved.
Speaker 2: I've had conversations not just with the four of you,
Speaker 2: but also with council Member cart Or Vice mayor Card.
Speaker 2: He was unable to be at this meeting. He really
Speaker 2: did want to be here. Uh. He wanted me to
Speaker 2: express his approval for this. I told him that I
Speaker 2: couldn't be his proxy boat. So I would wait til
Speaker 2: after it was either approved or denied by the city Council,
Speaker 2: and then I would say that that he did he
Speaker 2: did want me to take a moment and let all
Speaker 2: of you all know that he fully supports this and
Speaker 2: that he is grateful that you all have done this
Speaker 2: work with me and that it's under consideration.
Speaker 1: So thank you well. And I would note I have
Speaker 1: had discussions, and I'm sure each of you have also,
Speaker 1: and I have been very appreciative of the courtesy that
Speaker 1: has been shown to me. That people may feel one way,
Speaker 1: they may feel another, they may agree or disagree, but
Speaker 1: they have been willing to have calm, reason discussions, to
Speaker 1: tell me what they think, to listen to my thoughts,
Speaker 1: and at the end of it, to express appreciation myself
Speaker 1: and the other party that if we have these rational,
Speaker 1: reasonable discussions, that we can come together as a community
Speaker 1: and find solutions that won't please us all but allow
Speaker 1: us all to live together in peace. And I think
Speaker 1: that really is is one of the goals that a
Speaker 1: lot of people would like to see. At least that's
Speaker 1: what they've told me.