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<v Speaker 1>That takes us to item number fourteen. Number fourteen is

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss and take possible action to approve a resolution

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<v Speaker 1>pertaining to public safety, loot acts in public protest, and

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<v Speaker 1>the constitutional rights of the public in public spaces. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be presented initially. I'm sure there'll be discussion with

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<v Speaker 1>my mister black Bailey, our city manager.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Eric. So I've got a presentation that actually

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<v Speaker 2>goes through this resolution in detail, because I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>important that we go through and make sure that more

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<v Speaker 2>the public than the council is clear on exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>it is that's being proposed. Before I do that, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wanted to get into the history for the

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<v Speaker 2>public's benefit as to how this even came about. So

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two, I believe, was when we had

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<v Speaker 2>the last public directions that try was and after that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a public outcry and of course this city

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<v Speaker 2>Council went through a period of examination to determine what

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<v Speaker 2>we could do based on legal precedents, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>fairly undeveloped at that point in time. There were states,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were cities, and there were other jurisdictions that

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<v Speaker 2>were attempting to enter into regulations and we were uncertain

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<v Speaker 2>how those were going to go. As it started to develop,

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<v Speaker 2>it developed largely the way that we thought it would.

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<v Speaker 2>The courts were upholding the constitutional rights of the performers,

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<v Speaker 2>and so regardless of public opinion, or regardless of personal

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<v Speaker 2>opinion or the council's personal opinion, the reality was that

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<v Speaker 2>the courts were protecting the rights of performers. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the legal environment we were operating under. Fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>two years, we're here again, this Will and the Barlsville

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<v Speaker 2>Equality which used to be Alclahms for Equality. Barlsville has

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<v Speaker 2>announced that they're going to hold a public drag show

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<v Speaker 2>on September fourteenth this year. I got to day right

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<v Speaker 2>on September fourteenth that year, so with that the city Council,

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<v Speaker 2>once we were informed of this, the major concerns revolved

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<v Speaker 2>around the safety of the public. And what we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen in the past as it related to these performances

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<v Speaker 2>is that they do draw protest, and while both the

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<v Speaker 2>performance and the protest are protected under our Constitution in

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<v Speaker 2>the first Amendment, both of those are subject to certain

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<v Speaker 2>rules and regulations intended to protect the public. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the environment that we were all operating under. Over

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<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks, I've had a number of conversations

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<v Speaker 2>with city council members, and so this resolution, while I'm

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<v Speaker 2>presenting it, while I helped to draft it, it was

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<v Speaker 2>done at the request of the City Council, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I say this as much for the public's knowledge as

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<v Speaker 2>your own. You're all well aware I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of conversations with all of you this I believe this

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<v Speaker 2>resolution incorporates all the feedback that I've received in one

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<v Speaker 2>on one conversations with you all, and that is where

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<v Speaker 2>we find ourselves tonight. Now, a resolution is not an ordinance.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't carry the weight of law. A resolution is

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<v Speaker 2>only expressing the will of the council, and so that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what this does. Resolution is typically composed two parts,

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<v Speaker 2>so there will be a ware ass section and an

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<v Speaker 2>ware ass section essentially the story of the resolution is taught,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there will be a section that is that follows.

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<v Speaker 2>Now therefore be a resolve by the City Council of

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<v Speaker 2>the City of Partsville, and that's the section that actually

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<v Speaker 2>has some degree of weight or a required action. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start tonight by going through the were

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<v Speaker 2>ass is just so that we're all on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page and the first so this is the entire resolution

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<v Speaker 2>is on here. So if you have not had an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to review this yet, you will have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to review it with me. I will read it word

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<v Speaker 2>from work. It's available for the public. It's available in

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<v Speaker 2>the Council's packet, so anyone who cares to know what

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<v Speaker 2>is in the resolution is certainly available for you. That

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting. We've got a little bit of feedback there

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden. So the first thing in any

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<v Speaker 2>resolution I said was the whareas, But actually the title

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<v Speaker 2>is the first required part of any resolution, and so

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<v Speaker 2>this one essentially is titled the Resolution to the City

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<v Speaker 2>Council the City of Marlsville pertaining the Public Safety, Loot

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<v Speaker 2>Acts in public protest the Constitutional rights of the public

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<v Speaker 2>in public spaces. So if that's all you read, then

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<v Speaker 2>you probably have a misunderstanding of what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>we're here to do tonight. The whereas is then layout

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of what I just discussed with you on

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<v Speaker 2>It gives a little bit of the history, It describes

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<v Speaker 2>the legal environment, It discusses the rights and obligations of

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<v Speaker 2>all the parties involved in this, and I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>I think as we go through this, everyone will see

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<v Speaker 2>that this is very fair and balance and it is

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<v Speaker 2>very much within our legal authority as a city, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a great concern. So while there is a concern

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<v Speaker 2>for the public safety, there is also concern over us

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<v Speaker 2>not exceeding our legal authority. I think that everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>this room, in fact is a champion of limited government,

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone on this diaceis, and so that is we

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to accomplish only what is within our forty

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<v Speaker 2>to accomp So with that said, we as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of tells the story. This tells the story

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<v Speaker 2>of the resolution. So the first point is that this

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<v Speaker 2>started because there was a Pride celebration and it did

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<v Speaker 2>have a public drag show back in September tenth of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. After that there was a large concern

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<v Speaker 2>or there were a large number of concerns expressed by

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<v Speaker 2>the public and the council was requested to look into

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<v Speaker 2>this and act on them. So the next one is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially to talk about the duty of the city council,

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<v Speaker 2>And the city council has two of their highest duties

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<v Speaker 2>are number one and in fact, you all took an

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<v Speaker 2>oath of this and we just recognized constitution week. Both

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<v Speaker 2>of those things are your highest duties, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>specifically to uphold the constitutional rights of all people under

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<v Speaker 2>your jurisdiction. This doesn't matter whether these are people who

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with or not. It is still our obligation

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<v Speaker 2>of all the rights. So that's the first framework. The

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<v Speaker 2>second framework is that one the other highest duty of

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<v Speaker 2>the city Council is protect the public and to protect

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<v Speaker 2>the public safety. And so that goes into the third one,

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<v Speaker 2>which is essentially the council recognizing that it is enshrined

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<v Speaker 2>in our constitution the right to assemble to peaceably a symbol.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an important component of this obviously is to

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<v Speaker 2>peaceably a symbol. Now that is both for celebration and protest.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are recognizing the rights of everyone who might

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<v Speaker 2>be involved in this, whether it be an attendee, a performer,

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<v Speaker 2>or a protester. It is a given under our constitution

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<v Speaker 2>that they all have equal rights. So then we start

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<v Speaker 2>to get down into a little bit of the legal environment.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you all have specific questions about this on

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<v Speaker 2>the fur and the jest, but I can think I

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<v Speaker 2>can summarize it adequately. The first, and I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most important points on this is that during

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<v Speaker 2>that period of which there was regulation being proposed for

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<v Speaker 2>drag performances, the state of Oklahoma considered two separate bills

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<v Speaker 2>that were intended to regulate drag performances. It was Center

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<v Speaker 2>Built fivel oh III in House Built twenty one eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>It is my understanding they were advised that the regulations

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<v Speaker 2>that they were proposing were unconstitutional and that as a result,

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<v Speaker 2>they elected not to proceed with those I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that is then supported by all of the jurisprudence that

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<v Speaker 2>has occurred since then. So we have listed all of

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<v Speaker 2>the really relevant cases. There's five of them up here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go into detail of them. I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of summarize that all of the jurisprudence at this

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<v Speaker 2>point in time is indicating that drag is protected expression

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<v Speaker 2>under the First Amendment of the Constitution. So again, absolute

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<v Speaker 2>personal feelings and how we would wish this to be

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<v Speaker 2>the law of the land. The highest law of the

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<v Speaker 2>land at this point in time recognizes it as protected speech,

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<v Speaker 2>protected expression, So that is what these cases are. Essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these cases have not ended favorably for the

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<v Speaker 2>regulatory body who is attempting to regulate drag as it

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<v Speaker 2>relates to the First Amendment. They are all I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to note that they are all in various

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<v Speaker 2>states of appeal. I think that this ultimately will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be heard by the Supreme Court of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and at that point in time we will have final

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<v Speaker 2>guidance on what this landscape looks like. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>where we are today. These five cases in particular, have

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<v Speaker 2>all been mentioned at various times. The city Attorney has

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<v Speaker 2>kept you up to date on anything that has occurred

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<v Speaker 2>with these over time, and again, if you have specific

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<v Speaker 2>questions about those, I'm sure Jess can answer them, but

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<v Speaker 2>I will bore everyone with going into the details of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next part of the story is that even

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<v Speaker 2>though both of these things are protected speech, that they

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<v Speaker 2>are protected by our Constitution, they are subject to reasonable limitations.

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<v Speaker 2>So specifically we have listed the types of limitations that

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<v Speaker 2>could and it doesn't necessarily mean that these things have occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>It simply these are things that could limit freedom of expression.

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<v Speaker 2>And so in particular, there are several state statutes and

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<v Speaker 2>several local ordinances that apply. There are prohibitions against disturbing

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<v Speaker 2>the peace. There are prohibitions against indecent exposures of genitals

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<v Speaker 2>in a public place. There are prohibitions of not only

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<v Speaker 2>disturbing the peace of the municipal Code, but also prohibits

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<v Speaker 2>exposing children to loud in Lacivia's acts. Now, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to loud in the Sivia's acts, these have legal definitions,

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<v Speaker 2>and so again, absent feelings and whether or not we

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<v Speaker 2>think that what has occurred was loud in Lacivia's, these

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<v Speaker 2>all have legal definitions. And again, as we have seen

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<v Speaker 2>in these previous cases, regardless of what we thought was

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<v Speaker 2>lud or is, the courts have not agreed. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that is where we are is understanding that yes, these

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<v Speaker 2>limitations exist, but they do. All of these things have

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<v Speaker 2>legal have legal definitions, and they might not agree with

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<v Speaker 2>what our personal definitions are for these things, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way the law works. So keeping all of that

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, the Council also recognizes that protesters and counter

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<v Speaker 2>protesters have a right to assemble peaceably, but again they

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<v Speaker 2>are also limited by certain things. In particular, the things

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<v Speaker 2>that are more relevant are again deserving the peace, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there are also constitutionally supported restrictions on reasonable time,

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<v Speaker 2>place and manner. This is those areas are very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>and that they're fraught with peril because we get into

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional law. However, reasonable time, place and manner telling the

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<v Speaker 2>protesters that you need to protest in this space and

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<v Speaker 2>keeping them separate from the event, and also keeping the

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<v Speaker 2>counter protesters separate from the protesters. Those are all reasonable time, place,

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<v Speaker 2>and manner restrictions. Those are not content based. That's specifically

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<v Speaker 2>focused on both safety, so we have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>restrict based on those things, and then getting into the

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<v Speaker 2>events that are occurring. That honestly led us to tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a public outdoor drag event plan for the

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<v Speaker 2>Pride celebration on September fourth of this year, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>later this month. We also expect a protest at that

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<v Speaker 2>and in the past when there has been a protest

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<v Speaker 2>at a Pride event, there has been a counter protest.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, my personal feelings, your personal feelings, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>really play into it because all of those parties have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to do that. They have a right to protest,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a right to counter protest, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>right to assemble in celebration. So all of these things

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<v Speaker 2>are perfectly lawful events that do suffer from some restrictions.

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<v Speaker 2>The concerns as it relates to those are the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>of public safety. And I will say, and have told

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<v Speaker 2>this council before, I do have great concerns about public

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<v Speaker 2>safety implications for everyone involved, whether it be protesters, attendees, performers,

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<v Speaker 2>or counter protesters. There have been I think valid threats

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<v Speaker 2>against all parties, So I have some concerns about that.

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<v Speaker 2>That leads us into the next one, the city Council's

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<v Speaker 2>need concerned about the public safety. You all share that

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<v Speaker 2>this is not my fear alone, this is one that

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<v Speaker 2>you all share. So the final part of this is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially what the city council was doing. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>city council is providing guidance, actually providing direction to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will provide that to the city, to the

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<v Speaker 2>chief of police. The chief of police will then assemble

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<v Speaker 2>an operations plan, assuming that this is adopted, that will

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<v Speaker 2>follow the guidelines that are laid out. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the story that let us down to what I

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<v Speaker 2>told you before. Now therefore be it resolved by the

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<v Speaker 2>City Council of the City of Barlsville. Back so this

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<v Speaker 2>is now the wishes of the Council, and in particular

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<v Speaker 2>you are providing direction to me. There's five points. This

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<v Speaker 2>is actually the shortest part of the resolution. Believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, it's relatively succame. But there are five points.

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<v Speaker 2>The first of which is a sufficient number of officers

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<v Speaker 2>shall be assigned to Unity Square and surrounding areas set

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<v Speaker 2>aside for protest to ensure the safety of protesters and

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<v Speaker 2>participants a lot. So this is essentially this is a

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<v Speaker 2>patrol of the area. So this is the first assignment

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<v Speaker 2>that the Council has asked that the police undertake. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a general assignment to patrol the area to ensure

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<v Speaker 2>the public safety of all involved. I think this helps

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<v Speaker 2>to address the concerns in particular that I have. So

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<v Speaker 2>then under each of these, by the way, there will

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<v Speaker 2>be three assignments that you all have decided upon. One

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<v Speaker 2>of this is the first one, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>the others will look a lot like this with their

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<v Speaker 2>sub bullet points. Essentially, you all would like for all

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<v Speaker 2>officers to receive training so that they understand specifically the

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<v Speaker 2>laws and regulations as they relate to the society. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we've identified some of those laws and those rules

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<v Speaker 2>and the things that are going to be particularly applicable.

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<v Speaker 2>We train our officers all the time, and we do

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<v Speaker 2>a really good job of training our officers, but this

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<v Speaker 2>event could be very high tension, and so in order

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that we do the best job that we can,

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<v Speaker 2>you have asked that they receive specific and a high

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<v Speaker 2>level of specific training related to desires. Also, you have

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<v Speaker 2>then talked about officers assigned such duties shall be responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for enforcement of all public service laws, preserving the rights

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<v Speaker 2>of protesters, and ensuring the safety of all involved. You

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<v Speaker 2>are also asking that we have open communication. This has

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<v Speaker 2>actually started. I was in contact with one of the

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<v Speaker 2>protesters who had notified every day that he planned to participate.

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<v Speaker 2>I directed him to the Chief of police, who will

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<v Speaker 2>be responsible for the operations plan. That way they can

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<v Speaker 2>communicate and there shouldn't be in surprises today. Up, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that the chief has also reached out to Barnesville.

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<v Speaker 2>Quality of the organization is putting this one for the

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<v Speaker 2>same purpose. Support I say he has or he will.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's the first one. The second one, as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, these all look very simple, very similar, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm misstated on this one. This is specifically

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<v Speaker 2>you really ask me to have officers assigned to the

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<v Speaker 2>area of protest. In particular, you wanted that so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can help to prevent any public safety issues that

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<v Speaker 2>might occur as tensions rise between protesters account of contests.

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<v Speaker 2>So that first group will be assigned primarily to the

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<v Speaker 2>area of the protest. The second group is what I

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<v Speaker 2>described earlier. This is actually a group to patrol the

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<v Speaker 2>entire premises are there with the purpose of ensuring public safety,

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<v Speaker 2>and so and again we're requesting that they receive a

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<v Speaker 2>high level of training specific to their duty, which their

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<v Speaker 2>duty again is general security and patrol to ensure the

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<v Speaker 2>safety of all involved. And then the final one is

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<v Speaker 2>the same as before that we are encouraging and requesting

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<v Speaker 2>open communication with all parties to try to ensure this

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<v Speaker 2>is the smooth as possible it am number three again,

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<v Speaker 2>sufficient number of officers. Now this one is unique to

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<v Speaker 2>this performance, and it is specifically that you have requested

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<v Speaker 2>that police officers shall be assigned to observe the performance.

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<v Speaker 2>And by performance, I assume that what we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>here is the drag show, since that is the one

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<v Speaker 2>that has generated some public concern. Again, these officers will

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<v Speaker 2>be assigned to this duty, they'll get a high level

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<v Speaker 2>of training in things that are particular to them. So

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<v Speaker 2>we typically partner with the DA's office. We're hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>he will provide that training. Expecting, I think Chief that

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<v Speaker 2>the DA will provide that training. And so he will

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<v Speaker 2>train us specifically on leudiness, on loot acts in accordance

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<v Speaker 2>with the law. Again, these all have to be based

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<v Speaker 2>on the law and exist depreshmen. So he will provide

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<v Speaker 2>training on that. He'll provide training on exposure, disturbing the piece,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things that are relevant to this specific

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<v Speaker 2>group officers and a side of this, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>will they'll be responsible. They got specific responsibilities that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about, and this is dealing with public decency laws,

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<v Speaker 2>preserving the rights of performers and event organizers. Deep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind this is that everyone has everyone deserves our protection

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<v Speaker 2>that's under our jurisdiction. And then the safety of performers

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<v Speaker 2>and spectators. So again open communication is encouraged. Bullet point

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<v Speaker 2>number four, you all have requested that all officers that

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<v Speaker 2>are on duty at this time have a body warm

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<v Speaker 2>camera and then it be on at all times, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is sound. These events, especially when you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about protesters and counter protesters. It doesn't matter whether

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<v Speaker 2>it is a Pride event or if it is a rally.

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<v Speaker 2>These generate high tension. No one remembers exactly what occurred,

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<v Speaker 2>that they remembered how they felt, and so when someone

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<v Speaker 2>makes a plane typically what it is is based on

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<v Speaker 2>how they felt. Having these cameras provides protection for our

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<v Speaker 2>officers primarily, but it also provides a record of the

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<v Speaker 2>event so that all allegations and concerns can be addressed

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<v Speaker 2>by police administration. Myself. The final item is the city

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<v Speaker 2>managers should make available and the Chief of Police all

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<v Speaker 2>resources necessary to ensure the safety of the public, preserve

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<v Speaker 2>the rights of all parties, and enforce all applicable rules

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<v Speaker 2>and laws during this event. So that is essentially the resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it is very well balanced towards preserving

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<v Speaker 2>the rights of all involved, towards protecting the public safety,

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<v Speaker 2>the public peace. And again I think that all of

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<v Speaker 2>this and these are the conclusions after review, and the

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<v Speaker 2>city attorney has also looked this over and given his

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<v Speaker 2>opinion on it to me. But essentially, the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is that all of the information and contained in

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<v Speaker 2>the whereas clauses is true, that is all factual, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it lays out the case for not only

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<v Speaker 2>our responsibilities and our obligations, but also our limitations, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it explains it very well. So understanding all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, I also think that all of the instructions

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<v Speaker 2>that are included the resolution are within our municipal authority.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to be careful of that. We are

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<v Speaker 2>a municipal government, We have a high degree of responsibility,

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<v Speaker 2>We have a tremendous amount of power. That all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you have requested of myself to request

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<v Speaker 2>of the police department are well within our municipal authority.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've colored in any gray areas. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the final thing, and I think this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most important as well, is that all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you've asked of me are within our ability.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been discussion about costs, there's been discussion about obligations,

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<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. I would say that even absent

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<v Speaker 2>this resolution, it would be unacceptable of me to not

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<v Speaker 2>have a significan police presence at this event due to

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<v Speaker 2>the potential damage to public safety. So we have always

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<v Speaker 2>provided police presences, especially when there is a protest and

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<v Speaker 2>a counter protest. We provide police presence. That is not

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<v Speaker 2>at the request of an event organizer. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>as an advantage to an event organizer. It simply is

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<v Speaker 2>doing our job, one of which, and again one of

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<v Speaker 2>our highest duties, is to preserve the public peace, protect

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<v Speaker 2>public safety. So I believe that the resolution is fairly stated.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that the resolution is reasonable, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that all of this will make our community safer and

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<v Speaker 2>will ensure that all have to pull rules of law

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<v Speaker 2>and fault that council. I'd be happy to answer any

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<v Speaker 2>questions you have, although it came from you, somebode you

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<v Speaker 2>should ask each other.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a very thorough treatment of the subject. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a subject that Elucid brings up great feelings, emotions. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>my emotions overpower my logic and reason, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>something to try to be careful and deal with this

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<v Speaker 1>in a reasonable logical manner. I would note that has

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<v Speaker 1>been mentioned that each member on this council takes an oath.

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<v Speaker 1>I take oaths seriously. That oath is to uphold the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I don't agree with it. We can change laws,

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<v Speaker 1>but we disobey and violate them at our own peril

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<v Speaker 1>and in the case of this city Council, at the

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<v Speaker 1>peril of the city citizens. It is very difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>determine intent. We have talked about this at length in

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years and if mister Kane will certainly

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I misstate, but those sorts of questions

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<v Speaker 1>can only be settled in a court and not by

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<v Speaker 1>this city Council to determine what someone's intent might be. Council,

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<v Speaker 1>having heard mister Bailey's presentation of a subject, I know

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<v Speaker 1>we would just as well talk about trash trucks are

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<v Speaker 1>parks projects, but here we are. What are your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>your questions?

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<v Speaker 3>One thought I I have in addition to the resolution

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<v Speaker 3>that you presented any we have several events that happen

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the course of any given year, and those events

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<v Speaker 3>have special event permits where they can use TI Green

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<v Speaker 3>or Unity Squares is also known. Along with those permits

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<v Speaker 3>or special event permits, city services are provided. And I

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<v Speaker 3>know there's a lot of municipalities across the United States

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<v Speaker 3>that have done probably research is to what the cost

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<v Speaker 3>that goes into those across the board regardless of what

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<v Speaker 3>the event is, and I would just ask that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>city staff can do some additional research is to maybe

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<v Speaker 3>what other municipalities have done so that the burden of

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<v Speaker 3>the city services aren't absorbed completely by the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, in fact, we do have a special event

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<v Speaker 2>process that we go through. It charges for some things,

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<v Speaker 2>but perhaps not for everything that we have an option

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<v Speaker 2>to and so I would be happy to do some research.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important that we research that and then

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<v Speaker 2>we determine the impact it would have on all of

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<v Speaker 2>our events. As you said, we have a number of events,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yes, I'd be happy to do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe our next meeting would be in October and it

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be an issue to have have that done before then.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything the city does has a cost, and the decision

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<v Speaker 1>is where does that cost land And there will be

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<v Speaker 1>discussion and I'm sure dissension in the results, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good discussion to.

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<v Speaker 4>Have discussion top and we'll have that discussion at the

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<v Speaker 4>appropriate time. I do want to I want us to

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<v Speaker 4>take a moment to say thank you to our police department,

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<v Speaker 4>to our city staff. Our police department does a fabulous job.

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<v Speaker 2>Trusted fully and only.

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<v Speaker 4>In them in the way they've handled all of these

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<v Speaker 4>things to this point, every event that they attend. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to thank the city staff for working with us

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<v Speaker 4>and executing our wishes.

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<v Speaker 2>And bringing this forward to us.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to thank everybody who uses prop our facilities

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<v Speaker 4>and our parks and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>They they take care with them. This organization is no different.

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<v Speaker 4>They've taken care, They've followed through with every obligation and

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<v Speaker 4>their protractual use of that and gone above and beyond

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<v Speaker 4>in a lot of ways. So I want to say

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<v Speaker 4>thank you. This is what makes our community great. We

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<v Speaker 4>all have differences of opinion, but we come here and

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<v Speaker 4>we get to this point, and I truly feel this

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<v Speaker 4>is a representation of work that's been done. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think a lot of the public sees that this

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<v Speaker 4>work goes on. The City Council and the city staff

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<v Speaker 4>and the Police Department don't sit idly by and do

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<v Speaker 4>nothing on these things. We work and we make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that we represent all of our constituents in these matters.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you to our police department, thank you, our

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<v Speaker 4>city staff, thank you to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, thank you, I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone else we do have before us an action item

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<v Speaker 1>if we choose to take action on this. I see

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<v Speaker 1>this as a public safety regardless, as mister Bailey says,

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<v Speaker 1>is where any of us might feel in our personal opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this municipality authorized, empowered and capable of doing

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<v Speaker 1>to keep our people safe. There's over thirty seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>of us in this community, and I suspect there are

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven thousand opinions on any given subject. Council, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your wishes?

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<v Speaker 4>I would move that we adopt and approved the resolution

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<v Speaker 4>as presented.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll second that very good Councilmember Roselle has moved Councilmember

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<v Speaker 1>ship Shipper has seconded emotion to approve this resolution as

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<v Speaker 1>presented and discussed. Are there any other comments? Are there

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<v Speaker 1>any questions.

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<v Speaker 2>You like? Mister Rose Alight, mister Univers, Mister.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Holmer, Ah, that is approved.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had conversations not just with the four of you,

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<v Speaker 2>but also with council Member cart Or Vice mayor Card.

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<v Speaker 2>He was unable to be at this meeting. He really

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<v Speaker 2>did want to be here. Uh. He wanted me to

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<v Speaker 2>express his approval for this. I told him that I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be his proxy boat. So I would wait til

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<v Speaker 2>after it was either approved or denied by the city Council,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would say that that he did he

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<v Speaker 2>did want me to take a moment and let all

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<v Speaker 2>of you all know that he fully supports this and

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<v Speaker 2>that he is grateful that you all have done this

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<v Speaker 2>work with me and that it's under consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you well. And I would note I have

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<v Speaker 1>had discussions, and I'm sure each of you have also,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been very appreciative of the courtesy that

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<v Speaker 1>has been shown to me. That people may feel one way,

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<v Speaker 1>they may feel another, they may agree or disagree, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have been willing to have calm, reason discussions, to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what they think, to listen to my thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of it, to express appreciation myself

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<v Speaker 1>and the other party that if we have these rational,

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable discussions, that we can come together as a community

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<v Speaker 1>and find solutions that won't please us all but allow

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<v Speaker 1>us all to live together in peace. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that really is is one of the goals that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people would like to see. At least that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they've told me.
