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<v Speaker 1>I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekenanos Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas is back and we are going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break from the Thirty Years War series. And Thomas has

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<v Speaker 1>some thoughts and he wants to talk about Israel today.

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<v Speaker 1>So take it away, Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>We've discussed Israel before in dedicated series more than one,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and the Jewish state and its origins and

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<v Speaker 2>it's founding mythologies and the ideological imperatives that gave rise

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<v Speaker 2>to bell for Declaration and Zionism becoming a significant global

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<v Speaker 2>political force. I write extensively on that, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>major aspect of my manuscript, which I'm please to announces

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<v Speaker 2>almost completed. However, there's there's a subject matter within the

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<v Speaker 2>broader sort of pastiche of of factors that is neglected,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and not just by regime adjacent media and

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream academ This was on my mind not just because

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<v Speaker 2>of this foolish talk emanating from the wayous of what

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<v Speaker 2>Iran and the ongoing attempted to version of the revolutionary

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<v Speaker 2>government there, but about some months after the Twelve Days War,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this, this sort of performative air war. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that the Trump administration claims was targeting the Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear program, which which I don't think exists in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that is alleged by this administration or the regime generally.

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<v Speaker 2>But that aside. Kamani Supreme Leader Kamane he made a

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<v Speaker 2>speech and in it he talked about the Zionists plan

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<v Speaker 2>for greater Israel and the Levant, which is essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>total ethnic cleansing of large swaths of Syria as well

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<v Speaker 2>as Gaza, as well as the Levant and the replacement

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<v Speaker 2>of the indigenous element with racial Jews is defined by

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<v Speaker 2>the zion Estate. Incidentally, the Zionist state defines who is

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<v Speaker 2>a Jew in explicitly racial terms. It's a mirror of

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<v Speaker 2>what the Nuremberg was were, which is significant because that's

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<v Speaker 2>basically without precedent within Jewish life, Okay, And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Coman he said was true. I mean, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't accept the revolutionary government's position on other things, that

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<v Speaker 2>that's accurate what he described. And that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why the sort of direct action that IDF engages

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<v Speaker 2>in seems outside of the scope of ordinary military activity,

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<v Speaker 2>even when there's a strong ethnosectarian animosity president within the

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<v Speaker 2>conflict paradigm, and the supper racialism of Israel goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to its founding, and I'm going to discuss that discrete

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<v Speaker 2>instances of open racial warfare that constituted a founding aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of the military campaign that established the Jewish state. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also inductively one can extrapolate from that is it's

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<v Speaker 2>part of a wider integral paradigm of Zionist activity, political, military,

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<v Speaker 2>and sociological. That's the only way to understand it. And

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<v Speaker 2>Israel was normalizing to some degree in the nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>which is when and why Rabine was murdered and Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>for all practical purposes became a one party state. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the when I say, and when people like

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<v Speaker 2>Ernst and Olti and like Norman Finkelstein and others have

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<v Speaker 2>discussed Israel as being a totally abnormal state, this is

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<v Speaker 2>an aspect of what they're talking about. There's a dialectical

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<v Speaker 2>aspect as well that relates to the same nucleus of

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<v Speaker 2>historical causes that gave rise to the Soviet Union and

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<v Speaker 2>the Third Reich. But it's also an outlier because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the only, it is the only state of its kind

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<v Speaker 2>that is taken on this naked we racialist, naked we

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<v Speaker 2>biologically racialist imperative as an absolute and unconditional aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>its historical mission and its ideological practice. And I go

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<v Speaker 2>as far to say that it's essential to the constitution

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<v Speaker 2>of the state conceptually and actually, and that's also one

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<v Speaker 2>of the major problems that is emergent because that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of secular, hyper racialized Zionism. Nobody really believes in that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And going back even to the the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen forty seven forty eight war, which was really

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<v Speaker 2>a massive rossenkree. He was a massive racial cleansing operation

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<v Speaker 2>by Hagana and the Zionist International. But what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what's commonly you know, called the nineteen forty eight war.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a problem with some of these outlying territories

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<v Speaker 2>and Greater Palestine that had key strategic value, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were populated almost exclusively by the ultra Orthodox. Then these

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<v Speaker 2>people had absolutely no interest in joining some some racialist crusade,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, against their neighbors and shuffling populations around. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe is something that the leagued state's gonna rely more

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<v Speaker 2>and moron literally up rooting ultra orthodox populations and shoving

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<v Speaker 2>them into racialized battle spaces that they themselves have curated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially forced these people to fight or die and

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<v Speaker 2>thereby try to radicalize them. I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to work, but that's one of the things that that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be emergent. I believe it's you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to be clear that I'm not to get into this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't hyperbole. I mean, this is this. Uh, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the factual record. I admittedly present historical analyses and

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<v Speaker 2>inductive terms. I've had the thought that it might be

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<v Speaker 2>because I trained as a lawyer, but I think that's more.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're talking about ideological praxis, I think that's really

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to approach it, and not not in

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<v Speaker 2>polemical terms, but you've really got to start with how

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<v Speaker 2>ideological imperatives are expressed and implemented and go from there

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding political behavior, especially at war, and especially in

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<v Speaker 2>discussing a state that is such an outlier like Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>So one are the examples of been deeply researching. Latly

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<v Speaker 2>was a Zionist operation. It was implemented by Hagana, but

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<v Speaker 2>then it was continued by IDF. Haganana was the primary

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<v Speaker 2>armed element of the thesion Is International Okay, they basically

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<v Speaker 2>Jews under arms in Palestine. Hagana was their primary organized force.

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<v Speaker 2>Hagana became the IDEF okay. But just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>from April to December of nineteen forty eight, Hagana slash

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<v Speaker 2>IDF they implemented what was called Operation cast Thy Bread.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a top secret biological warfare operation whereby, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things, Hagana they used typhoid bacteria they isolated to

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<v Speaker 2>contaminate the drinking water in the wells of settlements that

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<v Speaker 2>they wished to ethnically cleanse within the covetant within the

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<v Speaker 2>battle space that constant. The primary battle space constituted Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>territory that was coveted by the Zionist cadre. But Operation

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<v Speaker 2>cast Thy Bread came to include neighboring states populated by

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<v Speaker 2>people identified as racial hostiles. And it also had the

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<v Speaker 2>further effect of preventing refugees who survived the ethnic cleansing

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<v Speaker 2>operation from returning to captured villages, and also as well,

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<v Speaker 2>it made it difficult for Arab relief armies, which arrived

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<v Speaker 2>primarily from Jordan. Later on to make use of extant

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<v Speaker 2>water supplies, which in the near reies to this day

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<v Speaker 2>is a major concern. This operation resulted in pandemic illnesses,

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<v Speaker 2>at least locally, beyond the initial attrition that killed a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people. In the final months, IDF gave orders

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<v Speaker 2>to expand the biological warfare campaign and the Egypt, Lebanon

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<v Speaker 2>and Syria, but for some reason this was not carried out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my own thoughts on that, and I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into that as we go on in this topical discussion. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when they started coming to light the response from the

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<v Speaker 2>designs political and military element, first and foremost from a

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<v Speaker 2>man named Abba Iban. He was the main representative of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish Agency for Palestine, which was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>primary NNGO was involved in the settlement enterprise of bringing

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<v Speaker 2>European jewelry to the Middle East. He went on to

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<v Speaker 2>serve as the Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister, the Education Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>the deputy Prime Minister. He was ambassad the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up it was their first permanent representative, permanent

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<v Speaker 2>representative of the u N. He was VP of the

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<v Speaker 2>UN General Assembly. He this this was a big deal

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not actually in those days the UN actually

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<v Speaker 2>had quite a bit of authority or cloud rather as

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<v Speaker 2>much as an ig o can. He insinuated himself into

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<v Speaker 2>the UN for a reason. But the official statement from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ida Hagana authorities as well as the political

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<v Speaker 2>cadre then in control of the NASA design estate was

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<v Speaker 2>this was anti Semitic incitement and an Arab propaganda. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this was in response to the fact that in July

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<v Speaker 2>the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, who on the ground had

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good relations with the British military contention that was

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<v Speaker 2>in the prop sense of disengaging and leaving. They reported

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<v Speaker 2>that there was wide scale use of bacteriological warfare that

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<v Speaker 2>was killing people in mass and that's how this came

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<v Speaker 2>to the attention to the General Assembly and of the

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<v Speaker 2>global newswire generally. Now it came out subsequently, owing in

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<v Speaker 2>part to some Cold War intrigues, among other things. Hagana's

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<v Speaker 2>chief operations officer was Yagaliya Din. Yagalia Din in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven forty eight I asked known activity in this

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<v Speaker 2>regard I believe was February nineteen forty eight he directed

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<v Speaker 2>a microbiology student named Alexander Kenyon. Alexander Kenyon went on

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<v Speaker 2>to become the director of the Israeli Institute for Biological Research.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get into what that institution does in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>but he ya Dean as chief operations officer of Aaghana,

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<v Speaker 2>he deployed Kenyon and the future Israeli President Ifran Katzer,

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<v Speaker 2>who also was a disease expert and biologist. He ordered

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<v Speaker 2>them to begin recent searching the potential of chemical and

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<v Speaker 2>biological weapons, what their potential was, how these things could

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<v Speaker 2>be devised to target discrete populations, how friendlies could be

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<v Speaker 2>potentially inoculated, if a weapon couldn't be engineered that was

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<v Speaker 2>splendidly devised to only affect targeted hostiles. And he had

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<v Speaker 2>them go to Europe and see if they could make

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<v Speaker 2>contact with ethnic Jews on both sides of the Iron Curtain,

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<v Speaker 2>who had expertise in this regard. Now cat sears I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned he was a biophysicist, That's what his actual discipline was,

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<v Speaker 2>and a big man. He wanted to become a big

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<v Speaker 2>man in the Israeli Labor Party, and again he was

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<v Speaker 2>president of Israel, and Israel the real power of government

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, in the prime minister. But the President

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<v Speaker 2>UH in national security affairs has a fair amount of authority.

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<v Speaker 2>But what ultimately UH Kenyon and kits you're They formed

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<v Speaker 2>UH a unit that came to be called himid be It,

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<v Speaker 2>which was an operational bio warfare unit of the IDF

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<v Speaker 2>Haganah then IDF. But the the is the Israel, the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli Institute for Biological Research. It's clear that what they

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<v Speaker 2>were organized to do and what they continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>to this day is UH the development of chemical and

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<v Speaker 2>biological weapons, as well as developing vaccines and animotes and

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<v Speaker 2>countermeasures against such weapons. This came to light the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>UH espionage scandal in Israel's history was the case of

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Klingberg. Marcus Klingberg was the highest ranking spy for

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviet Union and warsaw PEC ever ever caught in Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up becoming the UH Israeli Institute of Biological

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<v Speaker 2>Research as deputy scientific director. He was this Polish Jew

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<v Speaker 2>who was a committed communist and he managed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviets are very good at this. He managed to

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<v Speaker 2>insinuate himself not just into Israeli scientific academ but very

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<v Speaker 2>much into politics. And not only was he the director

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<v Speaker 2>of the IBr, but he became a head of the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Epidemiology from most of the seventies. He was

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<v Speaker 2>finally arrested in nineteen eighty three. He was convicted in

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<v Speaker 2>a secret military court, and Israel didn't even acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>they had him, that he'd been caught, that he'd been convicted,

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<v Speaker 2>until years after the fact. He was quite literally sent

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<v Speaker 2>down a hole. Now, if you know anything about the

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<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union and some of their priorities as regards to WND,

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<v Speaker 2>in the era of true strategic parody, the Soviets, just

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<v Speaker 2>like we were, they were looking for alternative means to

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<v Speaker 2>wage war that would take nuclear weapons off the table

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<v Speaker 2>other than as a tactical force multiplier or last resort,

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<v Speaker 2>and they convened what was called biopreparat. Famously, there was

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<v Speaker 2>the anthrax accident and one of the Soviet unions closed

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<v Speaker 2>cities were weaponized. Anthrax escaped and it killed a few

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<v Speaker 2>dozen people, and Yelson was the local party commissar, and

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<v Speaker 2>they claimed that some sort of outbreak of salmonilla had

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<v Speaker 2>or something in that order. They said it was tainted food.

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<v Speaker 2>so interested, and I mean the Soviets were constantly spying

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why there was such a dedicated effort

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<v Speaker 2>in this regard. And in the final phase of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cold War, post strategic parody, bioweapons and bio warfare potential

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<v Speaker 2>became a matter of very serious study, okay, And so

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineties when the Klingberg affair came to light,

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<v Speaker 2>this all but proved what had long been suspected that

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<v Speaker 2>Israel had a massive bioweapons program that was tailored for

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose of devising viral and bacterial agents with an

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<v Speaker 2>genetic factors. I believe too, this is one reason why

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<v Speaker 2>there's an internal racial hierarchy within Israel. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>social prejudice. Why so many Zionists are down on their

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<v Speaker 2>Ethiopian brethren and they look down on a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Jews indigenous to the region. It's because they've got a

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<v Speaker 2>hyper racialized view of political ontology. But also I think

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<v Speaker 2>their entire military, political, sociopolitical conditioning revolves around quantify and

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<v Speaker 2>calculable racial criteria and the Ashkenasm are a genetically insular population.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see where I'm going with this, which again

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<v Speaker 2>it's a macabre subject matter, but this is the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>In a nineteen ninety two there was a plane crash

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<v Speaker 2>in the Netherlands LL Flight eighteen one eight sixty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Among other cargo it was carrying, it was carrying cargo

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<v Speaker 2>bound for the Israel Institute for Biological Research. This cargo

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<v Speaker 2>consignment included one hundred and ninety liters of dimethyl methyl

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<v Speaker 2>fostphone eight, which, among other uses, admittedly it can be

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<v Speaker 2>it can be used in the synthesis of sarh nerve gas,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's scheduled for that purpose under the Chemical Weapons Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously this created something of a scandal. The claim

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<v Speaker 2>from Tel Aviv was that this material was non toxic

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<v Speaker 2>and it was simply being employed to test filters that

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<v Speaker 2>the within military gas masks that protect against chemical weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly nerve agents, which are notoriously difficult to develop countermeasures against.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh they claimed this was all above board, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was listed on the cargo manifest and if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the airlines screwed that up somehow. That has nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with any sort of sinister behavior by the institute

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<v Speaker 2>or by the Israeli government, the Dutch Foreign ministry. Then

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<v Speaker 2>when it to damage control mode, like the Zionist lackeys

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<v Speaker 2>they are and have been since, you know, the since

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five, you know, and they began insisting that

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<v Speaker 2>all these quantities were far too small for the preparation

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<v Speaker 2>of a viable military useful you know, nerve agent, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know that very well could be used for perfecting

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<v Speaker 2>detection methods and countermeasures. You know. This led to this

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<v Speaker 2>British journalist later in the nineties. He's more of an

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<v Speaker 2>m I five and things, but first and foremost he's

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<v Speaker 2>a journalist. But he he published an article on the

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<v Speaker 2>iib are, the Israeli Israeli Institute for Biological Research, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said it doesn't look anything like some academic research

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<v Speaker 2>facility or even a very secure commercial or academic laboratory.

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<v Speaker 2>He related that the facility is surrounded by a massive

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<v Speaker 2>concrete wall topped with cutting edge sensors and surveillance technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Armed guards patrol its perimeter twenty four to seven and

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<v Speaker 2>no aircraft are allowed to fly over the facility. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't appear on any map. Inside the facility, nobody can

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<v Speaker 2>move about absent the use of code words and constant

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<v Speaker 2>presentation of visual identification. It's surrounded by an outer shell

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<v Speaker 2>that utilizes bomb proof doors that can only be opened

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<v Speaker 2>by codes. The codes are changed every day. Every corridor

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<v Speaker 2>inside is patrolled by armed guards. I mean you under this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Essentially this place is as heavily defended

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<v Speaker 2>as as as a as sack Norhead. But you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that it's just a laboratory that deals in

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<v Speaker 2>research chemicals and and and encountermeasures against you know, poisoning

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<v Speaker 2>and things. So you get the picture. Not to be

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<v Speaker 2>clear how this came about in in terms of deployment

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<v Speaker 2>in UH the main there's as two things we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk about here. What I believe and what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the evidence direct and UH circumstantial will suggests is

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<v Speaker 2>that the experience of the racial cleansing of Haifa is

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<v Speaker 2>what really encouraged Hagana I, d F and Earnest to

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<v Speaker 2>start deploying bioweapons at scale around acre in Acre rather

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<v Speaker 2>in the suburbs. On a May third, ninety forty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Acre famously was a you know, there was a Crusader

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<v Speaker 2>castle there, one of the last Crusader garrisons. It was

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<v Speaker 2>this you know, renowned city for its cultural artifacts and things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's believed to be the first low Guy where typhoid

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<v Speaker 2>germs were deployed. This was substantiated by the Red Cross

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<v Speaker 2>as well as British authorities. It's not not not just

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<v Speaker 2>Arab documents and testimony. Israeli troops introduced poison and they

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<v Speaker 2>introduced the typhoid germs into wells an Acre and uh

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<v Speaker 2>in I, Lebon and Galilee, leading to a severe outbreak.

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<v Speaker 2>Acre was significant because it was to be allocated to

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<v Speaker 2>a future Arab state vis a vis the UN Partition

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<v Speaker 2>Plan for Palestine. It was heavily relied upon because of

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<v Speaker 2>its aqueducts for its water, so it was imperative that

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<v Speaker 2>within the boundary rationality desionus objectives that it being captured.

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<v Speaker 2>The attack was carried out by the Carmeli Brigade of

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<v Speaker 2>Haghana Cork and considered the be the spear point as

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<v Speaker 2>it were of Jewish forces, Oriental Jews and Arabized Jews

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous to the region. They were generally charged with lesser

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<v Speaker 2>mission orientations, and they also were encouraged and permitted to loot.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when reports had come in about Hagana elements

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<v Speaker 2>and IDF elements engaged in this kind of a pen

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<v Speaker 2>and lawlessness, the claim would be that, well, these are

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<v Speaker 2>just local militia men victimizing people, or oh they're Arabs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what language were they speaking? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very it's very clear what the motivation was there. And

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to just prejudice within the tribe of against

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<v Speaker 2>its own non askenasm brethren, probably the most successful in

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<v Speaker 2>relative terms early use of chemical weapons was the village

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<v Speaker 2>of bot Messir was racially annihilated and subsequently remaining refugees

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<v Speaker 2>were murdered by way of the poisoned water sources, which,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things, again precluded a return, and it required

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<v Speaker 2>high investment to render these places livable again. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what design estate did and replace the the people

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<v Speaker 2>they killed and expelled with their own kind. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Haifa that, in my opinion, led to this

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<v Speaker 2>wide used of biological agents. I mean, make the mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>this wasn't imperative that was going to be pursued anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>for reasons of ideological practice in rosen Krieg, which are

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<v Speaker 2>synonymous when we're talking about the design of state. But

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<v Speaker 2>operations in Haifa haiphas a port city and u there's

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly sizable contingent of British troops there, and as

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<v Speaker 2>it became clear that you know, ethnic cleansing was probable,

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<v Speaker 2>was possible, if not probable, a lot of the affluent

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<v Speaker 2>and literate people fled Haifa. The people remained between fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five and sixty thousand Palestinians. They were leaderless and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a comparatively poetry number of Arab volunteers under arms, so

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<v Speaker 2>they were essentially at the mercy of Jewish forces in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty eight, and despite the present to this British garrison,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the most shameful episodes of the

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<v Speaker 2>late British Empire. They were charged of protecting the people

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<v Speaker 2>there and from preventing a race war. Essentially, they did

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing and let this go on. But the Hagana

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<v Speaker 2>Idf they drove the Arabs from their homes and began

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<v Speaker 2>forcing them towards the water, and they positioned snipers so

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<v Speaker 2>that no one could escape, and then they began massively

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<v Speaker 2>shelling this population at tens of thousands of people who

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<v Speaker 2>were fleeing in terror, literally funneling them so they could

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<v Speaker 2>only run in one direction, and then they began bombarding

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<v Speaker 2>them with mortars and then just blowing them to pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>The operation was code named ms Parium, which means scissors,

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<v Speaker 2>indicating the idea of both a pincer and cutting the

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<v Speaker 2>city off from the Palestinian hinterland, as well as a

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<v Speaker 2>surgical removal of the unwanted element. But this caused international outcry,

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<v Speaker 2>especially because this British garrison, although totally derelict and their duty,

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<v Speaker 2>they did constitute a cadre of credible witnesses to what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a very bad look. There was testimony

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<v Speaker 2>about people being stampeded to death as their co ethnics

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<v Speaker 2>were literally running for their lives and being blown to

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<v Speaker 2>pieces by mortar rounds or having their brains blown out

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<v Speaker 2>by snipers. You know. Uh, most of these people were

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<v Speaker 2>not military age males. They were middle aged and old

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<v Speaker 2>folks or women and kids. You know. So the mean

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<v Speaker 2>this was a problem, especially uh you know, television wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>yet ubiquitous are even common, but cameras are becoming ubiquitous,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in in combat zones. You know it uh Hypha,

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<v Speaker 2>you know again, I mean it was is a port

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<v Speaker 2>city was coveted. But the main, the main, really the

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<v Speaker 2>only objective was racial warfare and the annihilation of the

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<v Speaker 2>unwanted element based on biologically racial criteria. You know again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not iperbly as an arguable I will Uh there

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<v Speaker 2>was to be fair too. There were instances of British

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground acting heroically. Unfortunately that was the exception,

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<v Speaker 2>not the rule. There was a it's only really only

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<v Speaker 2>in one area. The first it was the oldest Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood that had been built outside of the old city's walls.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was also uh. It was also where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of noble and notable families hailed from, including uh

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<v Speaker 2>the Sins and include you know, the one of whom

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<v Speaker 2>was a grand Mufti al Husseini who was a great man.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, chick Jara is the neighborhood we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The local British commander did step in the instruction that

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<v Speaker 2>came down to Jewish forces shikh Jarra in Uh April

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty four, forty eight, was to occupy the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>destroy all its houses, and you know, Annihilator expelled every

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<v Speaker 2>every every non Jew. The secretary of the Arab Higher Committee,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Hussain Khalidi, he'd uh liaised with the British Commander's

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<v Speaker 2>troops and UH the commander that garrison confronted Hagana and

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<v Speaker 2>UH was ordered as men to to shoot the Jews

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<v Speaker 2>if they tried to harm the the Arab population. And

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<v Speaker 2>with the accession twenty houses that Hagana managed to blow

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<v Speaker 2>up or burn. That was it because Uh Hagana immediately

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<v Speaker 2>backed down in Lua fighting the British Army, which goes

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<v Speaker 2>to show too that these guys were just cowards who

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<v Speaker 2>refused to intervene in other locales, you know. And to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear, this wasn't this was the British Army, This

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't blue hats, it wasn't some stupid peacekeeping mission. This

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<v Speaker 2>was the thin red line of the British Empire, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And UH they'd also given a commitment, they'd committed to

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<v Speaker 2>protecting these people by their own initiative. Just to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's about the conditions on the ground, but

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<v Speaker 2>it goes to show that, you know, when when the

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<v Speaker 2>British made it clear that they were going to defend

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<v Speaker 2>the Arab population by force of arms, you know, Hagana

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<v Speaker 2>back down. So this was a political decision by the

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<v Speaker 2>so called world community to let this happen, among other things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not propaganda either, when people victimized by the zion

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<v Speaker 2>of state, you know, issue forth that claim to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But so there's a lot of reasons, including the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't clear if what happened in this community

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the old city's walls, if this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to become a matter of standing doctrin into the remaining

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<v Speaker 2>British troops on the ground, if the roe that the

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<v Speaker 2>crown handed down was gonna be to engage Hagana i

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<v Speaker 2>DF when they attempt to implement these ethnic cleansing operations,

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<v Speaker 2>even if that wasn't even if the Jews that are

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<v Speaker 2>totally freehand, what happened at Haifa provoked global outrage in America. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the concern too was that these Erab populations are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, appropriated by the Soviet camp, which is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what happened owing to this sort of unrestrained racial violence.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a perfect storm of incentives to go

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<v Speaker 2>all in with the deployment of biological weapons. But again

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting that it was barely exitent circumstances. Within

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<v Speaker 2>the boundary rationality of the objectives of Haganay, this would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a matter of significant interest and as they

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<v Speaker 2>viewed it, military necessity regardless developing a capability in this regard.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's you know again, I this this is the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to demonstrate the practice of Zionism, which again

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<v Speaker 2>entails every asp aspect of Jewish life and the Zionist state, military, political, sociological.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the practice of Zionism dedicated racial warfare based

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<v Speaker 2>on biological criteria, and that's not discussed enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you when you take into consideration that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do DNA tests, they you know, they've I think

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<v Speaker 1>they did at one point, but now it's basically they

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<v Speaker 1>do it through birth certificates, marriage certificates, synagogue records, old passports,

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<v Speaker 1>letters from rabbis or Jewish organizations. It really that raises

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I I don't believe anything that comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of Tel Aviv. They claim they stopped doing it after

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<v Speaker 2>the uh But at the same time, for writer return stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly with say this Ethiopian population that was claiming refugee

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<v Speaker 2>status and write a return they're in you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>submitted uh, they submitted genetic evidence. I mean for the

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<v Speaker 2>way it plays out, Like I said, it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like the number laws. If you have a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's Jewish parentage that makes you a Jew.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, okay, like who's attesting to that? And

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<v Speaker 2>plus two, I mean, there's you can you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>it really is an There really is an Askenasm culture.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's very insular and uh sure there's ah

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<v Speaker 2>it's not uh as formal within uh the tribe as

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<v Speaker 2>it once was early on in the Zionist enterprise, I'm certain,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's make the mistake. It's it's uh, it's biologically

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<v Speaker 2>coded because there's there's there's nothing else to secular Zionism.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this bizarre pastiche of dead language, revival, Holocaust mythology,

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<v Speaker 2>racial supremacism. You know, it's not that's that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why. I mean, obviously it's primarily theological and conceptual,

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<v Speaker 2>while the ultra Orthodox don't abide it. But it's also

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't alien to them. It's some it's some weird import

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<v Speaker 2>of uh these uh like mixed blood ashkinasm who were

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<v Speaker 2>marinated in this racial pressure cooker of Central Europe that

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have that doesn't have a context of people

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<v Speaker 2>outside of that. I mean, don't get me wrong. There

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<v Speaker 2>there was a nutty and bigoted extremists indigenous to Palestine

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<v Speaker 2>who took on design as cause and decided that they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to purify the Jewish homeland of of uh their

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<v Speaker 2>racial enemies. But that that's not the the core of Zionism,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in terms of the people who constituted you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the spear point of Hagan and things, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the core ideologues they I mean, these by definition were

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<v Speaker 2>people who came from elsewhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also made the point in the beginning that

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<v Speaker 1>the whole concept of like Eric's Israel is to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more Jews there. Do they want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they can they survive without having

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<v Speaker 1>a diaspora. I don't think they can.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but it's not. But they also know that there'd

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<v Speaker 2>never be a situation where Jews all migrate to Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Israel secondary It's something I try to explain

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<v Speaker 2>to people. It's particularly grotesque when they go about things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the people who believe in the enterprise are extremely

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<v Speaker 2>radical and extremely violent. The it creates this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>identitarian ethos and UH philosophy out of this endless conflict mechanism.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean that that's the whole point, among other things.

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<v Speaker 2>The point isn't you know, where we're gonna bring the

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<v Speaker 2>dias for all to Israel. I mean that may have

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<v Speaker 2>been in in you know, in in the Inner Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>and things, or even in the immediate aftermath the Balford

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration and and you know, during a early UH race

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<v Speaker 2>wars with the Arabs, you have guys talk that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of them actually believed it, But that's that

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<v Speaker 2>was never the majority of consensus among the Jewish people

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<v Speaker 2>or their elite. And I mean that's never there was

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<v Speaker 2>just never realistic, you know. But it's a doomed enterprise

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<v Speaker 2>for all kinds of reasons. That's one of the reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>or that that's that's the approximate cause of it's irrationality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's got to realize this grand objective of this

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<v Speaker 2>greater Judea racial state within theater or the enterprise is

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<v Speaker 2>going to die. You know. That's why uh you know

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<v Speaker 2>in in in forty years Israel is we know it

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<v Speaker 2>won't exist anymore. What some sort of altra orthodox theocracy

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<v Speaker 2>will look like because an open ended question, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be very different, you know this, uh

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<v Speaker 2>but that, but that's also why that's also Netanyaho is

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<v Speaker 2>just dictator for life because there's there's nobody to replace him.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no bag bench. You know, it's uh, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a gerontocracy, just like in America and American Israel are

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing in terms of government. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well that was uh, that was some important history.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you're welcome. Yeah, I hope that was informative

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't bore everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna borrow anyone. I'll remind everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>The best way to hook up with Thomas if you

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<v Speaker 1>want is substack. His substack is real Thomas seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven dot substack dot com. And you know from there

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<v Speaker 1>you can connect to everywhere else there's uh is it

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas seven seven seven dot com. The t is a

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<v Speaker 1>seven Yeah, it's my website.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and on social media and stuff, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>I I really disdained social media. They're probably gonna ban

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<v Speaker 2>me again too, because like a bunch of a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of a bunch of internet weirdos get really mad at

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<v Speaker 2>me today. I mean like like, I like, people will

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<v Speaker 2>hate us anyway sometimes, like I'll say, I'll make some

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<v Speaker 2>offhand remark and I'll get really agitated. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>mad at me for like making fun of their making

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<v Speaker 2>fun of their rabbi, mister Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, yeah, that's some Yeah, that's something that that's

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<v Speaker 1>been hard to uh unsee lately. How many people have

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden jumped on the Trump train.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean they're they're he lots uh in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the synagogue of figure. But uh but I

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<v Speaker 2>digret point being I things are, things have been going

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<v Speaker 2>very well. And yeah, I wanted to just just a

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<v Speaker 2>goot shout out in a couple of weeks where me

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<v Speaker 2>and the Fellas are going to Michigan because Thomas Tour

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty up again in March and we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>meet Nico Klou and I'm hoping some of the Detroit guys,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Detroit guys said they want to meet up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a lot of love from our Michigan peoples.

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<v Speaker 2>That made me feel good. But if you're one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people's or if you want to meet up, go

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<v Speaker 2>check out the upcoming events at Substack. I'm a Substack

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<v Speaker 2>and all the infos right there. It's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>like a quick like it's a quick two day con.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like horror and crime stuff. So I'm sure a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people flying a freak flair. You're gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to see Nico and it might be

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<v Speaker 2>cool man, and Michigan is an awesome state, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to meeting our peoples there. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to show my own shit real quick, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Thomas, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, buddy,