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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each week we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of December thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing the ninth episode of the new season of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called full Grown Dude Face, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little more chipper than the previous week, which really just

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<v Speaker 2>had us basically sobbing.

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<v Speaker 1>For thank you, not only comic relief.

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<v Speaker 2>But like some some real you know, breakthroughs and advancements

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<v Speaker 2>in therapy and people actually telling other people how they feel.

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<v Speaker 2>So that they can move forward together. There was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more of that we had seen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Derek and Liz seem to be back and okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Liz is back to her usual uh, sharp tongued self.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when everybody's relief.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And Alice is apparently dating a guy named Dylan.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the flashbacks last week, she mentioned liking somebody named Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>which was three years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, is this the same Dylan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that seems that seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Only didn't have a grown dude face then, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>parenting wise, the right right away we get a good

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<v Speaker 1>parenting tip is when you're chatting with your daughter's date,

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<v Speaker 1>don't almost choke to death.

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<v Speaker 3>It's embarrassing for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, he has to give you a heimelick, and then

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<v Speaker 1>then the whole dynamic of your relationship is skewed.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, because Jimmy was trying to show off by

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a grape in the air and catching it in

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<v Speaker 2>his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's a cool dad, he's a cool dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Not cool when you have to get heimlicked by your

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<v Speaker 2>daughter's date. Yeah, in front of Sean and Sean's friend,

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<v Speaker 2>we're laughing at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that was that was funny and just a

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<v Speaker 1>parenting tip right there. You know, don't try to look cool,

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<v Speaker 1>don't try to just you know, be respectful, be a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Give them, you know, give him the stink eye, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't try to look by.

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<v Speaker 3>Throwing a garpe in your mouth. Yeah it never ends, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>sure doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean's job in this episode was mostly to just sit

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<v Speaker 1>around to laugh at people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to see that guy last exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I was happy for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good to see him observing other people struggling and

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<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, yeah, allow me to make fun of

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<v Speaker 1>you in a gentle way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And you know, we had Paul kind of laying

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<v Speaker 2>down the the dad slash therapist talk with both Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>and Gabby, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of talk in this right

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<v Speaker 1>along in our wheelhouse of parenting adults or almost adult

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<v Speaker 1>children of just you know. Paul told Jimmy that Alice

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<v Speaker 1>asserting her appendance means you did good allow her to

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<v Speaker 1>do that without feeling guilty. Yeah, ah true.

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<v Speaker 2>Oay, we'll get.

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<v Speaker 3>Right on that night.

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<v Speaker 1>And Derek is talking to Jimmy about how, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dad life is, make your kid think you don't care

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<v Speaker 1>when you do and how do you not cave? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to act cool. You can't follow her to

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<v Speaker 1>the party, you can't follow her to the store. You

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<v Speaker 1>just got to let her do her thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult. And Derek saying that their son lost his job,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't do anything about it until he tells them, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, how often has that to me? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I have this information, but I cannot reveal that I

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<v Speaker 4>have it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be go and wait. So, yeah, those are familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Liz, I think, said something like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do everything for your kid, and you know what your

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<v Speaker 1>reward is they grow up and reject you because they're assholes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but they still need.

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<v Speaker 3>You as they still need you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Alice still needs Jimmy and she does go to him

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<v Speaker 3>So that's yes, I really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And also.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and Charlie have set up this meeting with the

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<v Speaker 1>prospective mother of their child and they have it at

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's house with Liz there so that they can show

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<v Speaker 1>this village they have. And then Alice calls and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>has to go, and then Liz's son finally calls to

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<v Speaker 1>say you lost his job and she has to go,

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<v Speaker 1>So you are always on call. You got to act cool,

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<v Speaker 1>You got to act like you don't want it. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they need you, oh man, yep, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we live for. Yeah, put me in coke exactly. We're

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<v Speaker 1>we're there, yes, and uh, you know, Alice and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>had a very sweet moment when she was just tired

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<v Speaker 1>of being the girl whose mother died, and he gives

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<v Speaker 1>her a tip to sort of make a joke about

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<v Speaker 1>it so that everybody else feels more comfortable. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was sweet. And sadly, despite bonding over musicals, the

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<v Speaker 1>young mother to be did not pick Charlie and Brian

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<v Speaker 1>to be the baby's parents. They even bonded over trolls

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<v Speaker 1>and still.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll get theirs, right, we trust?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Hell?

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<v Speaker 3>How many more episodes in this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there twelve?

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<v Speaker 1>There an episode? I see an episode twelve? Development in that? Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's twelve episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>And the developments speaking of kids in parents developments in

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<v Speaker 1>the is Gabby's mother going to come live with her

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<v Speaker 1>even though she doesn't want her mother to come live

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<v Speaker 1>with her?

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<v Speaker 3>And the answer, of course, is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's going to also take Gabby's bed. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>is she going to be moving in, she's taking Gabby's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I last time we talked about this plot,

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying I moved across the country, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to deal with that. But I had such

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<v Speaker 1>a memory afterwards of my mom, my mom's father, my

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather was living with my aunt, my mom's sister for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and at some point my aunt just

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<v Speaker 1>said to my mom, you're taking him now, and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much just put him on a plane. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there was more prep than that, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a how about you take him now? It was you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking him now, my mom, your turn clear out of

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom and find a place for him. And he lived

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<v Speaker 1>with them for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the what was the line from only murders?

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<v Speaker 3>Tap in?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, your aunt said, tap.

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<v Speaker 3>In, Yep, that was pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>She had had it, and I think she'd probably taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of their mother also until she passed. So but

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, for quite some time my grandpa was living

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<v Speaker 1>my mother too, so she really had two old guys.

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<v Speaker 3>She was taken care of. Yeah, and I was not around.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone by. I'm moving across town. I'm moving

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<v Speaker 1>across to a different part of the state. I'm moving

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<v Speaker 1>out to the the country bike.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. See, you seem to have a lot on your hands, mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Just how nice of you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was mostly on call. You know, Hey, I'm getting married.

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<v Speaker 1>Come come to New Jersey, right, I'm adopting kids. Come

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<v Speaker 1>stay with us for like a little while after, will you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was on a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was just waiting for that call and she

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<v Speaker 2>got it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm here, yep, yep. So I have sympathy

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<v Speaker 1>for Gabby in that situation. But boy, is that not

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<v Speaker 1>what she wants. Yeah, that's what her mother wants, not

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<v Speaker 1>what she wants. And the sister took the earliest opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to skip out, Yeah, which you know, abetted by Sean

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<v Speaker 1>and his friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I mean both Sean and his friend are admittedly

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<v Speaker 2>very messed up from their time in the service, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet they're like, I think this will be great for.

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<v Speaker 5>For me, Like okay, I mean, I know it is

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<v Speaker 5>well for some people, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like those two.

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<v Speaker 2>You should know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Great you come back with PTSD and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>live with your therapy, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Gabby can have both of them living and her mom.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yeah, work out perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, they're continuing with Paul hating his son in law,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think was a thing last season.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that the son in law had to put

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<v Speaker 1>himself between Paul and his wife sometimes, yeah, just like

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<v Speaker 1>taking one for the team. But I didn't feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>But this time, I think Gabby asked Paul to go

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<v Speaker 1>do something and he said something when he said, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather spend time with your son in law?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's the worst possible thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when he has an exercise or he has

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend to push punch people, he's saying, Dave, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave, yeah, man, yeah, go for God, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>his ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Ringing, yeah, oh dear.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Parenting another parenting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy said he couldn't give us much advice on babies

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<v Speaker 1>because he was at that time he was a do

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<v Speaker 1>as you're told kind of dad, the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although taking responsibility, knowing what to do kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dad would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to yes, that would be the one you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in my house it was this baby doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like me. Oh no, just because you're not the food

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<v Speaker 2>source doesn't mean that you can't do something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but Jimmy does seem to have turned a corner hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and hopefully preparing for her independence. Unless you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to college here and just live with

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<v Speaker 1>me forever, he says, right, and remain on the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd go to UCLA and still be popping in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think she is one more year of

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<v Speaker 2>high school, doesn't she.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no idea how old she is. Honestly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Dude face exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is claims to be seventeen? Yes, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that will be one more year. It doesn't matter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>TV time, that's her. So give me six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>That's totally true.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Brian and Charlie's kid will be fifteen and Alice

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have a we'll have a party for them both.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Sweet sixteen and graduation. It'll be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Although maybe if they will adopt a non baby I did.

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<v Speaker 2>So Yeah, that's true. Well, next week it's the tenth

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<v Speaker 2>episode of season two. It's called Changing Patterns, and we

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