Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each week we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of December thirtieth,
Speaker 2: we're discussing the ninth episode of the new season of Shrinking.
Speaker 2: It is called full Grown Dude Face, and it's a
Speaker 2: little more chipper than the previous week, which really just
Speaker 2: had us basically sobbing.
Speaker 1: For thank you, not only comic relief.
Speaker 2: But like some some real you know, breakthroughs and advancements
Speaker 2: in therapy and people actually telling other people how they feel.
Speaker 2: So that they can move forward together. There was definitely
Speaker 2: a lot more of that we had seen.
Speaker 1: So Derek and Liz seem to be back and okay,
Speaker 1: and Liz is back to her usual uh, sharp tongued self.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when everybody's relief.
Speaker 1: Yes, And Alice is apparently dating a guy named Dylan.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: In the flashbacks last week, she mentioned liking somebody named Dylan,
Speaker 1: which was three years ago.
Speaker 3: Right, is this the same Dylan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems that seems.
Speaker 1: Only didn't have a grown dude face then, right, But
Speaker 1: parenting wise, the right right away we get a good
Speaker 1: parenting tip is when you're chatting with your daughter's date,
Speaker 1: don't almost choke to death.
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing for everybody.
Speaker 1: Really, he has to give you a heimelick, and then
Speaker 1: then the whole dynamic of your relationship is skewed.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, because Jimmy was trying to show off by
Speaker 2: throwing a grape in the air and catching it in
Speaker 2: his mouth.
Speaker 3: And if he's a cool dad, he's a cool dad.
Speaker 2: Not cool when you have to get heimlicked by your
Speaker 2: daughter's date. Yeah, in front of Sean and Sean's friend,
Speaker 2: we're laughing at you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that was that was funny and just a
Speaker 1: parenting tip right there. You know, don't try to look cool,
Speaker 1: don't try to just you know, be respectful, be a dad.
Speaker 1: Give them, you know, give him the stink eye, but
Speaker 1: don't try to look by.
Speaker 3: Throwing a garpe in your mouth. Yeah it never ends, well, no,
Speaker 3: sure doesn't.
Speaker 1: Sean's job in this episode was mostly to just sit
Speaker 1: around to laugh at people.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Good to see that guy last exactly.
Speaker 2: I was happy for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see him observing other people struggling and
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, yeah, allow me to make fun of
Speaker 1: you in a gentle way.
Speaker 2: Yep. And you know, we had Paul kind of laying
Speaker 2: down the the dad slash therapist talk with both Jimmy
Speaker 2: and Gabby, right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of talk in this right
Speaker 1: along in our wheelhouse of parenting adults or almost adult
Speaker 1: children of just you know. Paul told Jimmy that Alice
Speaker 1: asserting her appendance means you did good allow her to
Speaker 1: do that without feeling guilty. Yeah, ah true.
Speaker 2: Oay, we'll get.
Speaker 3: Right on that night.
Speaker 1: And Derek is talking to Jimmy about how, you know,
Speaker 1: dad life is, make your kid think you don't care
Speaker 1: when you do and how do you not cave? You know,
Speaker 1: you got to act cool. You can't follow her to
Speaker 1: the party, you can't follow her to the store. You
Speaker 1: just got to let her do her thing. But it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. And Derek saying that their son lost his job,
Speaker 1: but they can't do anything about it until he tells them, and.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how often has that to me? Yes,
Speaker 4: I have this information, but I cannot reveal that I
Speaker 4: have it.
Speaker 3: You gotta be go and wait. So, yeah, those are familiar.
Speaker 1: And then Liz, I think, said something like you're gonna
Speaker 1: do everything for your kid, and you know what your
Speaker 1: reward is they grow up and reject you because they're assholes.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they still need.
Speaker 3: You as they still need you know.
Speaker 2: Alice still needs Jimmy and she does go to him
Speaker 2: and he actually is there for her.
Speaker 3: So that's yes, I really sweet.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: And also.
Speaker 1: Brian and Charlie have set up this meeting with the
Speaker 1: prospective mother of their child and they have it at
Speaker 1: Jimmy's house with Liz there so that they can show
Speaker 1: this village they have. And then Alice calls and Jimmy
Speaker 1: has to go, and then Liz's son finally calls to
Speaker 1: say you lost his job and she has to go,
Speaker 1: So you are always on call. You got to act cool,
Speaker 1: You got to act like you don't want it. But
Speaker 1: when they need you, oh man, yep, this is what
Speaker 1: we live for. Yeah, put me in coke exactly. We're
Speaker 1: we're there, yes, and uh, you know, Alice and Jimmy
Speaker 1: had a very sweet moment when she was just tired
Speaker 1: of being the girl whose mother died, and he gives
Speaker 1: her a tip to sort of make a joke about
Speaker 1: it so that everybody else feels more comfortable. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was sweet. And sadly, despite bonding over musicals, the
Speaker 1: young mother to be did not pick Charlie and Brian
Speaker 1: to be the baby's parents. They even bonded over trolls
Speaker 1: and still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: They'll get theirs, right, we trust?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 3: How many more episodes in this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is there twelve?
Speaker 1: There an episode? I see an episode twelve? Development in that? Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: there's twelve episodes.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: And the developments speaking of kids in parents developments in
Speaker 1: the is Gabby's mother going to come live with her
Speaker 1: even though she doesn't want her mother to come live
Speaker 1: with her?
Speaker 3: And the answer, of course, is yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's going to also take Gabby's bed. Not only
Speaker 2: is she going to be moving in, she's taking Gabby's room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I last time we talked about this plot,
Speaker 1: I was saying I moved across the country, so I
Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with that. But I had such
Speaker 1: a memory afterwards of my mom, my mom's father, my
Speaker 1: grandfather was living with my aunt, my mom's sister for
Speaker 1: a long time, and at some point my aunt just
Speaker 1: said to my mom, you're taking him now, and pretty
Speaker 1: much just put him on a plane. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there was more prep than that, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: a how about you take him now? It was you're
Speaker 1: taking him now, my mom, your turn clear out of
Speaker 1: bedroom and find a place for him. And he lived
Speaker 1: with them for quite some time.
Speaker 2: What was the what was the line from only murders?
Speaker 3: Tap in?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, your aunt said, tap.
Speaker 3: In, Yep, that was pretty much it.
Speaker 1: She had had it, and I think she'd probably taken
Speaker 1: care of their mother also until she passed. So but
Speaker 1: uh so, for quite some time my grandpa was living
Speaker 1: with my parents, and my dad was much older than
Speaker 1: my mother too, so she really had two old guys.
Speaker 3: She was taken care of. Yeah, and I was not around.
Speaker 1: I was gone by. I'm moving across town. I'm moving
Speaker 1: across to a different part of the state. I'm moving
Speaker 1: out to the the country bike.
Speaker 3: Yep. See, you seem to have a lot on your hands, mom.
Speaker 2: Just how nice of you.
Speaker 1: He was mostly on call. You know, Hey, I'm getting married.
Speaker 1: Come come to New Jersey, right, I'm adopting kids. Come
Speaker 1: stay with us for like a little while after, will you.
Speaker 1: And she was on a plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just waiting for that call and she
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, yep, yep. So I have sympathy
Speaker 1: for Gabby in that situation. But boy, is that not
Speaker 1: what she wants. Yeah, that's what her mother wants, not
Speaker 1: what she wants. And the sister took the earliest opportunity
Speaker 1: to skip out, Yeah, which you know, abetted by Sean
Speaker 1: and his friend.
Speaker 2: Which I mean both Sean and his friend are admittedly
Speaker 2: very messed up from their time in the service, and
Speaker 2: yet they're like, I think this will be great for.
Speaker 5: For me, Like okay, I mean, I know it is
Speaker 5: well for some people, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 5: like those two.
Speaker 2: You should know that.
Speaker 1: Great you come back with PTSD and then you can
Speaker 1: live with your therapy, right, and.
Speaker 2: Then Gabby can have both of them living and her mom.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, work out perfectly.
Speaker 1: And uh, they're continuing with Paul hating his son in law,
Speaker 1: which I don't think was a thing last season.
Speaker 3: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I thought that the son in law had to put
Speaker 1: himself between Paul and his wife sometimes, yeah, just like
Speaker 1: taking one for the team. But I didn't feel like.
Speaker 1: But this time, I think Gabby asked Paul to go
Speaker 1: do something and he said something when he said, you'd
Speaker 1: rather spend time with your son in law?
Speaker 3: Right, it's the worst possible thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when he has an exercise or he has
Speaker 1: to pretend to push punch people, he's saying, Dave, Dave.
Speaker 2: Dave, yeah, man, yeah, go for God, you know, or
Speaker 2: his ears.
Speaker 1: Ringing, yeah, oh dear.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Parenting another parenting thing.
Speaker 1: Jimmy said he couldn't give us much advice on babies
Speaker 1: because he was at that time he was a do
Speaker 1: as you're told kind of dad, the best.
Speaker 3: Kind of dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although taking responsibility, knowing what to do kind of
Speaker 1: dad would be.
Speaker 2: Nice to yes, that would be the one you want.
Speaker 2: I mean, in my house it was this baby doesn't
Speaker 2: like me. Oh no, just because you're not the food
Speaker 2: source doesn't mean that you can't do something.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Well, but Jimmy does seem to have turned a corner hair.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and hopefully preparing for her independence. Unless you
Speaker 1: want to go to college here and just live with
Speaker 1: me forever, he says, right, and remain on the show. Now,
Speaker 1: she'd go to UCLA and still be popping in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think she is one more year of
Speaker 2: high school, doesn't she.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea how old she is. Honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's dating somebody with a full grown.
Speaker 3: Dude face exactly.
Speaker 1: Who is claims to be seventeen? Yes, so I guess
Speaker 1: that will be one more year. It doesn't matter. It's
Speaker 1: TV time, that's her. So give me six or seven
Speaker 1: seasons before she's ready to graduate.
Speaker 2: That's totally true.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yes, Brian and Charlie's kid will be fifteen and Alice
Speaker 1: will just graduate.
Speaker 2: We'll have a we'll have a party for them both.
Speaker 3: That's right. Sweet sixteen and graduation. It'll be good.
Speaker 1: Although maybe if they will adopt a non baby I did.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, that's true. Well, next week it's the tenth
Speaker 2: episode of season two. It's called Changing Patterns, and we
Speaker 2: will be back to our regular pattern of Lost on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: shrinking on Wednesday, and our weekly round up on Thursday.
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