WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:06.360 That's the wrong buttons. Just I don't do this anymore, 2 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:27.399 Jan does. Hey everybody, it's not Tuesday, it's Friday, so 3 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.480 that means BombCast Revengeance. I'm your host, Jeff Grubb from 4 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.759 giant bomb dot com, joined by a great crew of 5 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:37.359 dudes here, including Mike Manatti. How are you doing? 6 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:43.159 We decided I was a bitch today. You're already confusing me. 7 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:43.600 Yes. 8 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.920 Oh, we got to tell our guests about the or 9 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:47.359 we got to ask Hi about the origins of my 10 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:48.039 Mitch's name. 11 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:49.880 See if he can get it, if anybody can get it, 12 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:51.000 it's him, all right? 13 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:53.960 Oh okay, well for sure for for Tokoto. Sure absolutely. 14 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:56.479 Dan Reiker's here as well. Dan, how are you doing? 15 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:57.799 I'm doing great. How are you? 16 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.880 I'm good. I'm doing you know. I really got in 17 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:01.920 there with the theracane, so I'm feeling a lot better. 18 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:02.159 You know. 19 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.040 I went to physical therapy this morning and it was 20 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.319 a new one, new guy because my last one moved, 21 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:09.640 and so he's like, oh, what do you do for 22 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:09.920 a living? 23 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:10.439 And I told him. 24 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:11.760 He's like, oh, I want to listen to your podcast. 25 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:13.079 So I don't play video games. I was like, oh, 26 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.280 check out the voicemail dump truck what we did yesterday. 27 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.120 We actually just started out talking about getting old and 28 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:19.599 thehurricanes and thera guns. 29 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:21.439 You's gonna hear all about Mike genitals. 30 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:27.120 Yes, that's right, and then Mike Druncker is here as well. 31 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.439 Mike Drunker tell the people about yourself. So, but I 32 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:31.120 think most people are familiar with you, But go ahead 33 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:32.359 and give people a little rundown. 34 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.439 Yeah. Sure. I'm a writer and comedian. I've written for 35 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.599 video games and television. I've written for Nintendo as well 36 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.159 as places like The Tonight Show, and I have a 37 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.439 book coming out about video games, come in April first, 38 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.680 called Good Game, No Rematch, which is basically a bunch 39 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.319 of funny stories about games and how I've humiliated myself 40 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:49.680 with them. 41 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:52.760 Yeah. I've been burning through this. 42 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.040 He's been texting me frequently like little like snippets of it, 43 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.640 and now I'm like, I want to read this so bad. 44 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:00.799 If I did immediately pre order it, Drucker, I'm so 45 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.439 much like not a reader that like, I liked the 46 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:05.760 idea of it a lot, but like over a year ago, 47 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.919 Vinny Caravella recommended the Stephen King Short story collection to me, 48 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.080 and I like it, and it's still I'm still like 49 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:12.960 not even halfway through it, and it's been over a year. 50 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.319 This fucking thing I'm almost done with in like a week. 51 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.159 The last book I actually like read to completion was 52 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:23.080 Becky Lynch, The Pro Wrestler's Book, so basically pro wrestler books, 53 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.080 and this are the ones that I can actually like 54 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.639 go through. Well, these guys are gonna love it. It's 55 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:32.319 one of my favorite stories is about Miss Read. Yeah, 56 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:36.159 I think Manati here will love this. I don't know 57 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.319 if you want to give them a little teacher of this. 58 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:38.639 Manati is a big Final Fantasy guy. 59 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.680 So when I was in middle school, we had a 60 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.840 teacher who we're calling Miss Read in the book because 61 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:46.680 I did not want to use the teacher's real name 62 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.879 because it's a story about how she looked exactly liked 63 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.199 Eric from Final Fantasy seven. When Final Fantasy seven came 64 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:56.280 out and we were all obsessed with it, and so 65 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.520 there was like me and three other guys in that 66 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:03.800 English class with this teacher, Miss Read, who were so 67 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.319 in love with her and so obsessed with her and 68 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.879 would volunteer and like make her little gifts and stuff, 69 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.800 and she wasn't weird to us. She understood she was, 70 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.159 She knew what our game was and was like kept 71 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.280 us at a good arms like you know distance. But 72 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.439 it was just these middle school students trying to like 73 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.080 tell this adult woman being like, okay, so Final Fantasy seven, 74 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.560 you don't need to play the other six to understand it. 75 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.520 So if you want to play seven, we could loan 76 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.759 it to you. Like literally, just the saddest people, incredible. 77 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:37.919 We were so in love with her, so and when 78 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.240 I say she looked like Erith, I mean like, if 79 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.840 you cast a human woman to play Earth in a movie, 80 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.599 it would have been this person in nineteen ninety seven. 81 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:47.639 So it was it. 82 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.080 Extra extra hard for you when Arith died in there. 83 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.680 I don't remember if we told her about that part. 84 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.439 I think that part we might have admitted, and I. 85 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:57.840 Love the part. 86 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.960 Two were like, all these years later, you get on Facebook, 87 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:00.719 can you find her? 88 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.560 And she was like, Hey, are you so obsessed with 89 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:03.240 that weird game? 90 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.520 I was like, no, not at all. 91 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.479 No, I definitely don't own the album. I've spent years 92 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.280 thinking about Final Fantasy, not at all. 93 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.439 This is why I'm like, I've enjoying the little tidbits 94 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.639 of Dan Vincinning because it's like, oh, I know that 95 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.519 place in time, because also in it was junior high 96 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.879 where I was at. In junior High, I had some 97 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.680 friends who I'd go and hang out with them, and 98 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.480 every time I would sit down, for like about a month, 99 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.040 they would be talking about the same like the hottest 100 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.600 girl in school who they just called Tifa, and because 101 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:37.439 she looked like Tifa, and to them this did not mean, oh, 102 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.480 you're going to cast a human woman to play this character. 103 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.959 This just means she was the first girl to grow breasts, basically, 104 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.959 and so like she's Difa, that's it. It's like, okay, guys, 105 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:46.720 that's great. 106 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.120 Breast from Tifa. Foun don't speak for all of us 107 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.839 at wrestling and learned about it from Sonny. 108 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.160 And so some of our parents did a bad job 109 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.639 of storing adult material in a place that se to follow. 110 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.079 Yeah, definitely, peruse a milk rate in the closet. 111 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:09.519 Ye that reminds behind the cleaning stuff underneath the sink 112 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.120 in the bathrooms where my stash was. Don't worry. 113 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.480 My my nieces and nephews stopped over yesterday. They're very 114 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.120 young and they're just walking around the house. And that's 115 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.759 fine normally, but I forgot that. I bought an issue 116 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:23.680 of Maxim magazine because it was the one that has 117 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:27.600 the uh it's poker, It's Taylor with chips. 118 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.360 Well describes this poker game stat. 119 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:35.600 Yeah right now, well magazine. I never felt more like 120 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.560 an uncle in my life. 121 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:39.680 It's the one with Vanessa mar Still on the cover. 122 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.839 Nicholas Cage's wife in the rock She's on the cover. 123 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:44.600 And then that's got the stacked reviewing there. 124 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:44.879 Yeah. 125 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.639 Yeah, I'm very proud, and I got to find a 126 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:47.519 frame or something for it. 127 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.399 Now, did you did you try to wait? Did you 128 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.240 hide it from the kids or did they actually see it? 129 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:52.199 I think they saw it. 130 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.279 They walked, they did, They were doing laps around my house, 131 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:55.800 and then I noticed it and just flipped it on 132 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:56.199 the back. 133 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:57.920 The back wasn't nearly as offensive. 134 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.079 All right, good, Okay, So Mike you were writing this book, 135 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.920 you were collecting these stories from your life related to 136 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.279 video games. How did like what was the process like 137 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.480 picking which things to put in the book and like 138 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:12.240 what to leave out? And you know, what was the 139 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:13.399 conversation with the editors? 140 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:16.639 Like yeah, sure, well when I pitched the book, I 141 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.920 essentially wrote three sample chapters and then created a table 142 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.920 of contents where I wrote a paragraph on what each 143 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.879 story would be. And for those of you listening or watching, 144 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.439 each story is its own contained story for my life, 145 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.279 like some might call back to others or anything, but 146 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.040 it's not like a novel where it's building up to 147 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.199 a conclusion. It's more like, here's how I humiliated myself 148 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.639 trying to impress a crush by cosplaying as Mario from 149 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.720 Super Mario three. Like that's like one story, and then 150 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.240 you know, the Power Glove basically tearing my family aparts 151 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.439 another story. So I kind of, well, I tried to 152 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:52.639 think of, like, you know, video games that I love, 153 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.560 but I also really wanted to link them all to 154 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.759 life stories. I have one or two sort of short, 155 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.240 funny interstitial bits, but I didn't want to just to do, 156 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:02.720 here's a funny essay on a video game. But I 157 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.240 also didn't want to do, here's me shoehorning a life 158 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.120 story in there that has no video game attached. So 159 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.639 I tried to like make a list of the games 160 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.079 that were the most important to me, but also the 161 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.120 ones that actually tied to life events, and then from 162 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.639 there I kind of started shaping stories and working with 163 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.519 my editors, and I would send them drafts of the 164 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.120 chapters I have and they would give feedback, and over 165 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.800 time sort of the book shaped up that way and 166 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.560 some stories that I started with dropped away, some got 167 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.040 added in. Yeah, it was sort of an organic process 168 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:31.920 up until the very end. 169 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.120 Is it like organic because like you already think of 170 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.639 your life autobiographically, like through video games, because that's I do, Like, 171 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:41.160 like I was doing this at that time when I 172 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.160 was playing that game. Yeah, Like, is that what you 173 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:44.319 already thought about life? 174 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.160 It's definite, Definitely that's how I already think about life. 175 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.120 And coming from a stand up comedy background, it's also 176 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:52.120 natural to me to be like, Okay, I want to 177 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.600 write a segment on this topic. So here's you know, 178 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.439 two or three minutes on this video game in this 179 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.319 part of my life. So that was a very actual 180 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.920 writing process for me, and in fact, even I record. 181 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.800 I recorded the audio version of the book a month ago, 182 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:08.399 and it kind of felt like I was doing a 183 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:09.879 bunch of comedy albums in a row. 184 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:10.319 Sure. 185 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:13.000 Yeah, very interesting, Mike. 186 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.000 It's you know, I'm forty and grew up in very 187 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.639 much similar circumstances with the same interest as you. So, 188 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.959 like I I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this 189 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:22.360 is the most relatable piece. 190 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:23.240 Of media I've ever read. 191 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.240 Like I had the exact same story with the Power Glove, 192 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:26.959 where my dad tried for like an hour to set 193 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:28.279 of that and we could not do it, and I 194 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.360 wound up using like the Dpad to play tiny tune 195 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:31.240 adventures like that. 196 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it sucked. It sucked because you 197 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:35.399 can at least one hand. 198 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:37.919 But then the one about even like showing up at 199 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.080 the girl's house dresses Mario, the exact same fucking thing 200 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.519 for my friend's tenth birthday. 201 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:45.480 You know, I never was able to talk to girls ever. 202 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.799 And there were these two sisters that lived in the neighborhood, 203 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:50.200 and I wrote a Mortal Kombat play for my friend's 204 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.840 tenth birthday and I was a Scorpion, but we needed 205 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.240 Katana and Malina, and of course, cockingly, there weren't any 206 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.080 girls coming to this party. And so that was the 207 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.200 one time I went to this these sisters how and 208 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.360 I was like, ooh, can you guys play guitar? 209 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.039 And Molina from wortld Combat and they're like. 210 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:08.639 Now it be got sports about it. 211 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.919 I swear almost every fucking story in Drugger's book, I 212 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.120 was like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. It's if 213 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:16.480 from going to sports games and talking about the light 214 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.440 leaving your dad's eyes when your dad's trying to get 215 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.039 you to love sports and you're just wanting to play 216 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.559 game boys. Like It's just like, holy shit, this is 217 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.639 an incredibly relatable and hilarious book. 218 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.159 I can say enough about this. 219 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:26.840 Thank you so much. 220 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:30.639 Yeah, what do you like when when people read it? 221 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:31.919 What do you hope and they kind of take away 222 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:32.279 from it? 223 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.799 I mean, honestly, I just wanted to be a good 224 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.879 time I I think, you know, when I first pitched 225 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:39.919 the book, it was twenty twenty three during the writers strike, 226 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.200 and I was kind of like, you know, I was 227 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.080 in a bummer place. The world, you know, kind of 228 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:47.799 generally feels like it's in an ongoing bummer place, and 229 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.039 I really wanted to write something about video games that 230 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.559 was super funny and fun I think, you know, I 231 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.120 myself fall into the culture warhole so much of like 232 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.399 being angry about this or being mad at someone that 233 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.159 I want to be like this is like a beautiful 234 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.679 art form that I love, and I wanted to write 235 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.960 something that like how it influences our lives. Like there's 236 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.000 a lot of books that are about the history of 237 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.360 games that are like beautiful bitmat books that are like 238 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.559 you know, coffee table books that show you all this 239 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.120 amazing imagery. But I hadn't really seen a lot of 240 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:17.000 like you know books that you see about movies or 241 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:18.840 music where people are like, here is how this art 242 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.360 form informs our very lives. And that's what I wanted 243 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.200 to do. I really wanted to celebrate and write a happy, 244 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.759 funny book, and I kind of hope I did that. 245 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.639 Yes, yes, very cool. 246 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.000 I'm laughing outloud on almost every page. 247 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:33.039 Thank you not kidding? 248 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.000 Yes, yeah, Like I said, really looking forward to it. 249 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.240 I let's get people the call to action, like when 250 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.159 can they get it? Where should they go to get it? 251 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:40.879 All that good stuff. 252 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.279 Absolutely. So this book is called Good Game, No Rematch, 253 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.519 and it is available anywhere you can buy books. So 254 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.120 you can get it on Amazon, you can get it 255 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.279 on you can get it at Barnes Noble, you can 256 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.159 get it on bookshop dot Org if you're if you 257 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.559 want a shop indie. It'll be available digital, hardcover, and audio. 258 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.600 I read the audiobook and it's all available April first. 259 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:01.120 I know that it sounds like a bit and it 260 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.000 sounded like they were messing with me when they told 261 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.480 me that, but April first, So if you if you 262 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.759 want to get something very exciting right before the switch 263 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:13.039 to news, Michael comes out. 264 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.679 Out there, compete with the switch to man. 265 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.399 When they when they when they said switch to news 266 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.840 April second, I was like, motherfuck, Like, couldn't have been 267 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:22.559 like the fifth. 268 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.279 Was there any discussion of someone else doing the the 269 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:28.799 audiobook or where he was like, oh, no, of course 270 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:29.720 I'm always going to do that. 271 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.639 It was sort of they sort of we sort of 272 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:34.440 had decided early on that I was going to do it. 273 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.600 I had pitched and as a joke having Keith David 274 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.320 read a chapter as a bonus check. 275 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.000 It's very good. Yeah. 276 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.639 Their response was basically like, do you know how much 277 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.440 that would cost us? And I was like no, when 278 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.480 they were like, we're not going to do that unless 279 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.559 you paid for him, We're not doing that. 280 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.519 I always had there something inherently weird about like an 281 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.360 autobiographical thing being read by someone other, because like I 282 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.120 did the Anxiety book and a company reached out to 283 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:01.639 me being like, hey, we will make the audiobook for you. 284 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.879 We have professional voice actors, we have all this, and 285 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.440 I was like, yeah, I want to do the audiobook, 286 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:06.960 but can I do it? And like so I went 287 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.840 into a place in New York and recorded. Mind Like, 288 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.039 how did you find that process? Because like it's so weird, 289 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.240 like you have to be so aware of your voice 290 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.080 and clearing throats and it's such an au natural way 291 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.240 to talk, like it just like hours and hours and hours. 292 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:18.840 It was odd. 293 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.799 Oh yeah, it takes hours and there's take after take 294 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:23.639 after take. I'm lucky in that I had a really 295 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:27.879 great uh director and sound engineer who also really enjoyed 296 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:29.240 the book, so they got what I was trying to 297 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:30.879 do with it. I'm sure like if I had someone 298 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.559 who was just confused by it, it would have been worse. 299 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:38.159 But I think what I struggled with was, you know, 300 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:39.799 you can hear this in the way I'm talking right now, 301 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.320 and if you ever listen to my stand up, I 302 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.360 talk pretty fast, and so I had to really work 303 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.720 hard to slow myself down yeah yeah, and be more 304 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.720 deliberate with the way I read but while still keeping 305 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:53.879 Joe Cadence in my voice and emphasizing the right words, 306 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.159 you know, uh, slowing down but not making it sound 307 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.600 like I'm reading a report in high school. Yeah, and 308 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:02.799 that was like the most work was like, you know, 309 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:06.480 reading it but in my head being like, okay, talk 310 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.600 at a more normal clip. You don't have to bum 311 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.759 rush all of your words out. But it was also 312 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.600 it was super fun and again the crew of the 313 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.600 sound engineer and the director were like really supportive and 314 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.000 really fun, and they also like gave me great reads. 315 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:23.639 Like at one point I was stumbling and he was like, 316 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.879 how about you try it this way, And it made 317 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.120 the joke better than it actually just reads in the 318 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.279 book itself. So it was a really good process. But yeah, 319 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:32.120 it took like a week. 320 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.120 Yeah, I've just always been and I've told you this personally, 321 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.480 but like I've been in awe of your career because 322 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.919 it's just like, you know, not just like the you know, 323 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.639 the video games with Nintendo and everything, but also you're 324 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.279 a late night guy. And so I remember the first 325 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.519 time we got drinks in San Francisco, probably a decade 326 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.559 ago or more at this point, and just like I 327 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.399 was just kind of marking out, just asking about like 328 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.399 the process of right monologue jokes intern at SNL and 329 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.320 all that stuff. Like so you've been like the one 330 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.320 guy I know that's like done, like the Late Night County, 331 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.519 the stand up com thing and the video game stuff, 332 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:02.759 and now you're writing for TV. 333 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.440 And it's just always been very very in awe of your. 334 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.639 Thank you, thank you. I've been very lucky. I feel 335 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.120 like I've, like mister magoot, into a career, like I 336 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.039 stepped on a banana peel that hit a pie cart 337 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:14.120 and like walked onto a construction site and I have 338 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:14.519 a career. 339 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.840 Hey, mister McGoose, the one old reference I think we 340 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:19.919 could still get away with. That's like the old man reference, 341 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:22.200 Like no, we get that, we get what you're going for. 342 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.240 I don't. I mean they know them. 343 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.840 I think they know like the tropes of the Three Stooges, 344 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:30.840 but they probably don't know like they know like whoa 345 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:32.840 whoa whoa wall and like an eye poke, but they 346 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.440 might not go off. 347 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.039 To a child and try to poke them in the 348 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:37.960 eye with like you know, the two fringers out and 349 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:38.240 if they. 350 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.879 Another thing I'm in awe of is Mike Manatti's longtime 351 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.080 handle on the Internet, and I now I want to 352 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.720 see if Mike Drucker can can guess what this is Manati, 353 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:52.399 do you want to explain? 354 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.559 Okay, sure, yeah, yeah. My my handle is told koto 355 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.399 e O l k O t oh. Do you have 356 00:14:58.440 --> 00:14:59.360 any idea what that? 357 00:14:59.399 --> 00:14:59.879 Possibly? 358 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.240 Can we say that it's a portmanteau? 359 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:03.200 Well you did? 360 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:05.320 I did. 361 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.639 What sucks is? I feel like once you explain it 362 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.480 to me, it'll make all the sense in the world. 363 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:11.759 And I'm just not thinking of. 364 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.799 This way nerdier than you're even thinking. 365 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.240 Okay, something you would definitely get the reference of druggery. 366 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:19.960 Just give it to me because I'm gonna be mad 367 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:20.480 no matter what. 368 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.080 Yeah, yeah, I thought this was very cool when I 369 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.840 was fourteen, came up with this. It's a combination of 370 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.120 Tolkien and Mia Moto. 371 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.519 Every time we tell somebody. 372 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:47.559 This person is surrounded by funny people. I don't know, 373 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:52.200 because it's so cool, right, that's the. 374 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.039 Coolest thing ever. No, yeah, that's bring up on a date. 375 00:15:58.600 --> 00:15:59.679 Yeah, I been what he got to that. 376 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:01.960 Everybody else like gets rid of their handles once they 377 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.440 start doing these shows. I'm like, please don't call me Tolkoto. 378 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.600 It's a lot of those. 379 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.679 I think you could be the fan that would actually 380 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:17.679 break the real Miamoto if you told you I'm not 381 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:18.519 doing this anymore. 382 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.480 I'm going back to my garden, my band. I never 383 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:21.559 want to see you again. 384 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:26.720 I've heard too many stories of like fans disappointing. I 385 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.080 don't know if I could bear that. 386 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.039 All right, I think it's time to talk about some 387 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:42.360 video games. Let's do that, all right? Uh, who's been 388 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:43.960 playing something? And what god do you want to talk 389 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.799 about that we can talk about. I've been playing a 390 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:47.720 game and turn me onto. I can't mention yet, which 391 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.240 is all I can think about. Keep tearching it for everybody. 392 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:51.639 Well, I guess'll tease a little bit. 393 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:52.120 Are you uh? 394 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:53.360 Are you enjoying it? 395 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:54.960 I'm frigging in love. 396 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:56.240 With you right now. 397 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:58.240 This is killing I'll just tell you right now. I 398 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:00.159 know I'm sorry. I really do hate the tea, but 399 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:01.480 it's just all I can think about. So I'm a 400 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:02.759 bad person trying to kick. 401 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:03.279