1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: That's the wrong buttons. Just I don't do this anymore, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:27,399 Jan does. Hey everybody, it's not Tuesday, it's Friday, so 3 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,480 that means BombCast Revengeance. I'm your host, Jeff Grubb from 4 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,759 giant bomb dot com, joined by a great crew of 5 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,359 dudes here, including Mike Manatti. How are you doing? 6 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: We decided I was a bitch today. You're already confusing me. 7 00:00:43,359 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Yes. 8 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: Oh, we got to tell our guests about the or 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,359 we got to ask Hi about the origins of my 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,039 Mitch's name. 11 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: See if he can get it, if anybody can get it, 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,000 it's him, all right? 13 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well for sure for for Tokoto. Sure absolutely. 14 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:56,479 Dan Reiker's here as well. Dan, how are you doing? 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,799 Speaker 4: I'm doing great. How are you? 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm doing you know. I really got in 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,920 there with the theracane, so I'm feeling a lot better. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,159 Speaker 5: You know. 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: I went to physical therapy this morning and it was 20 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:08,319 a new one, new guy because my last one moved, 21 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:09,640 and so he's like, oh, what do you do for 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:09,920 a living? 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,439 Speaker 4: And I told him. 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I want to listen to your podcast. 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,079 So I don't play video games. I was like, oh, 26 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:15,280 check out the voicemail dump truck what we did yesterday. 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,120 We actually just started out talking about getting old and 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,599 thehurricanes and thera guns. 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,439 Speaker 4: You's gonna hear all about Mike genitals. 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, and then Mike Druncker is here as well. 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,439 Mike Drunker tell the people about yourself. So, but I 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,120 think most people are familiar with you, But go ahead 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,359 and give people a little rundown. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. Sure. I'm a writer and comedian. I've written for 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,599 video games and television. I've written for Nintendo as well 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,159 as places like The Tonight Show, and I have a 37 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:43,439 book coming out about video games, come in April first, 38 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:46,680 called Good Game, No Rematch, which is basically a bunch 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,319 of funny stories about games and how I've humiliated myself 40 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:49,680 with them. 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I've been burning through this. 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: He's been texting me frequently like little like snippets of it, 43 00:01:56,079 --> 00:01:57,640 and now I'm like, I want to read this so bad. 44 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,799 Speaker 4: If I did immediately pre order it, Drucker, I'm so 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,439 much like not a reader that like, I liked the 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,760 idea of it a lot, but like over a year ago, 47 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,919 Vinny Caravella recommended the Stephen King Short story collection to me, 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,080 and I like it, and it's still I'm still like 49 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,960 not even halfway through it, and it's been over a year. 50 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:16,319 This fucking thing I'm almost done with in like a week. 51 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,159 Speaker 3: The last book I actually like read to completion was 52 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:23,080 Becky Lynch, The Pro Wrestler's Book, so basically pro wrestler books, 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,080 and this are the ones that I can actually like 54 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:28,639 go through. Well, these guys are gonna love it. It's 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,319 one of my favorite stories is about Miss Read. Yeah, 56 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:36,159 I think Manati here will love this. I don't know 57 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:37,319 if you want to give them a little teacher of this. 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,639 Manati is a big Final Fantasy guy. 59 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 6: So when I was in middle school, we had a 60 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:44,840 teacher who we're calling Miss Read in the book because 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,680 I did not want to use the teacher's real name 62 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,879 because it's a story about how she looked exactly liked 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,199 Eric from Final Fantasy seven. When Final Fantasy seven came 64 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:56,280 out and we were all obsessed with it, and so 65 00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:59,520 there was like me and three other guys in that 66 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:03,800 English class with this teacher, Miss Read, who were so 67 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,319 in love with her and so obsessed with her and 68 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,879 would volunteer and like make her little gifts and stuff, 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,800 and she wasn't weird to us. She understood she was, 70 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,159 She knew what our game was and was like kept 71 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:20,280 us at a good arms like you know distance. But 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,439 it was just these middle school students trying to like 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,080 tell this adult woman being like, okay, so Final Fantasy seven, 74 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,560 you don't need to play the other six to understand it. 75 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:31,520 So if you want to play seven, we could loan 76 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:35,759 it to you. Like literally, just the saddest people, incredible. 77 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,919 We were so in love with her, so and when 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240 I say she looked like Erith, I mean like, if 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,840 you cast a human woman to play Earth in a movie, 80 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,599 it would have been this person in nineteen ninety seven. 81 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,639 So it was it. 82 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Extra extra hard for you when Arith died in there. 83 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 6: I don't remember if we told her about that part. 84 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:57,439 I think that part we might have admitted, and I. 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Love the part. 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Two were like, all these years later, you get on Facebook, 87 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:00,719 can you find her? 88 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: And she was like, Hey, are you so obsessed with 89 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,240 that weird game? 90 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: I was like, no, not at all. 91 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,479 Speaker 6: No, I definitely don't own the album. I've spent years 92 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,280 thinking about Final Fantasy, not at all. 93 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,439 Speaker 1: This is why I'm like, I've enjoying the little tidbits 94 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:17,639 of Dan Vincinning because it's like, oh, I know that 95 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,519 place in time, because also in it was junior high 96 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,879 where I was at. In junior High, I had some 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,680 friends who I'd go and hang out with them, and 98 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,480 every time I would sit down, for like about a month, 99 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,040 they would be talking about the same like the hottest 100 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,600 girl in school who they just called Tifa, and because 101 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:37,439 she looked like Tifa, and to them this did not mean, oh, 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,480 you're going to cast a human woman to play this character. 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,959 This just means she was the first girl to grow breasts, basically, 104 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,959 and so like she's Difa, that's it. It's like, okay, guys, 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,720 that's great. 106 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Breast from Tifa. Foun don't speak for all of us 107 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,839 at wrestling and learned about it from Sonny. 108 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: And so some of our parents did a bad job 109 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:00,639 of storing adult material in a place that se to follow. 110 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, peruse a milk rate in the closet. 111 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,519 Speaker 1: Ye that reminds behind the cleaning stuff underneath the sink 112 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:12,120 in the bathrooms where my stash was. Don't worry. 113 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: My my nieces and nephews stopped over yesterday. They're very 114 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,120 young and they're just walking around the house. And that's 115 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,759 fine normally, but I forgot that. I bought an issue 116 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,680 of Maxim magazine because it was the one that has 117 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:27,600 the uh it's poker, It's Taylor with chips. 118 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Well describes this poker game stat. 119 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah right now, well magazine. I never felt more like 120 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,560 an uncle in my life. 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: It's the one with Vanessa mar Still on the cover. 122 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,839 Nicholas Cage's wife in the rock She's on the cover. 123 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:44,600 And then that's got the stacked reviewing there. 124 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:44,879 Speaker 6: Yeah. 125 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very proud, and I got to find a 126 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,519 frame or something for it. 127 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:49,399 Speaker 1: Now, did you did you try to wait? Did you 128 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,240 hide it from the kids or did they actually see it? 129 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:52,199 Speaker 4: I think they saw it. 130 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: They walked, they did, They were doing laps around my house, 131 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:55,800 and then I noticed it and just flipped it on 132 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,199 the back. 133 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: The back wasn't nearly as offensive. 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,079 Speaker 1: All right, good, Okay, So Mike you were writing this book, 135 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,920 you were collecting these stories from your life related to 136 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,279 video games. How did like what was the process like 137 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:10,480 picking which things to put in the book and like 138 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:12,240 what to leave out? And you know, what was the 139 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,399 conversation with the editors? 140 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,639 Speaker 6: Like yeah, sure, well when I pitched the book, I 141 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:20,920 essentially wrote three sample chapters and then created a table 142 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,920 of contents where I wrote a paragraph on what each 143 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:26,879 story would be. And for those of you listening or watching, 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,439 each story is its own contained story for my life, 145 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:32,279 like some might call back to others or anything, but 146 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,040 it's not like a novel where it's building up to 147 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:37,199 a conclusion. It's more like, here's how I humiliated myself 148 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,639 trying to impress a crush by cosplaying as Mario from 149 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,720 Super Mario three. Like that's like one story, and then 150 00:06:43,959 --> 00:06:47,240 you know, the Power Glove basically tearing my family aparts 151 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,439 another story. So I kind of, well, I tried to 152 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:52,639 think of, like, you know, video games that I love, 153 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,560 but I also really wanted to link them all to 154 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:57,759 life stories. I have one or two sort of short, 155 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,240 funny interstitial bits, but I didn't want to just to do, 156 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:02,720 here's a funny essay on a video game. But I 157 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:05,240 also didn't want to do, here's me shoehorning a life 158 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,120 story in there that has no video game attached. So 159 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,639 I tried to like make a list of the games 160 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,079 that were the most important to me, but also the 161 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 ones that actually tied to life events, and then from 162 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,639 there I kind of started shaping stories and working with 163 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,519 my editors, and I would send them drafts of the 164 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:23,120 chapters I have and they would give feedback, and over 165 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,800 time sort of the book shaped up that way and 166 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,560 some stories that I started with dropped away, some got 167 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:31,040 added in. Yeah, it was sort of an organic process 168 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:31,920 up until the very end. 169 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Is it like organic because like you already think of 170 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,639 your life autobiographically, like through video games, because that's I do, Like, 171 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:41,160 like I was doing this at that time when I 172 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,160 was playing that game. Yeah, Like, is that what you 173 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:44,319 already thought about life? 174 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 6: It's definite, Definitely that's how I already think about life. 175 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:50,120 And coming from a stand up comedy background, it's also 176 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:52,120 natural to me to be like, Okay, I want to 177 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,600 write a segment on this topic. So here's you know, 178 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,439 two or three minutes on this video game in this 179 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,319 part of my life. So that was a very actual 180 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,920 writing process for me, and in fact, even I record. 181 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:06,800 I recorded the audio version of the book a month ago, 182 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:08,399 and it kind of felt like I was doing a 183 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:09,879 bunch of comedy albums in a row. 184 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,319 Speaker 1: Sure. 185 00:08:10,439 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, very interesting, Mike. 186 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm forty and grew up in very 187 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,639 much similar circumstances with the same interest as you. So, 188 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,959 like I I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this 189 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,360 is the most relatable piece. 190 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: Of media I've ever read. 191 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: Like I had the exact same story with the Power Glove, 192 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,959 where my dad tried for like an hour to set 193 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:28,279 of that and we could not do it, and I 194 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:30,360 wound up using like the Dpad to play tiny tune 195 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:31,240 adventures like that. 196 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it sucked. It sucked because you 197 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:35,399 can at least one hand. 198 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,919 Speaker 3: But then the one about even like showing up at 199 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,080 the girl's house dresses Mario, the exact same fucking thing 200 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,519 for my friend's tenth birthday. 201 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: You know, I never was able to talk to girls ever. 202 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,799 Speaker 3: And there were these two sisters that lived in the neighborhood, 203 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:50,200 and I wrote a Mortal Kombat play for my friend's 204 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:53,840 tenth birthday and I was a Scorpion, but we needed 205 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,240 Katana and Malina, and of course, cockingly, there weren't any 206 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,080 girls coming to this party. And so that was the 207 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,200 one time I went to this these sisters how and 208 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,360 I was like, ooh, can you guys play guitar? 209 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,039 Speaker 4: And Molina from wortld Combat and they're like. 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,639 Speaker 2: Now it be got sports about it. 211 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,919 Speaker 3: I swear almost every fucking story in Drugger's book, I 212 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,120 was like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. It's if 213 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,480 from going to sports games and talking about the light 214 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,440 leaving your dad's eyes when your dad's trying to get 215 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,039 you to love sports and you're just wanting to play 216 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,559 game boys. Like It's just like, holy shit, this is 217 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,639 an incredibly relatable and hilarious book. 218 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,159 Speaker 4: I can say enough about this. 219 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 220 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you like when when people read it? 221 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:31,919 What do you hope and they kind of take away 222 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,279 from it? 223 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,799 Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, I just wanted to be a good 224 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,879 time I I think, you know, when I first pitched 225 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:39,919 the book, it was twenty twenty three during the writers strike, 226 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,200 and I was kind of like, you know, I was 227 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,080 in a bummer place. The world, you know, kind of 228 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,799 generally feels like it's in an ongoing bummer place, and 229 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,039 I really wanted to write something about video games that 230 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,559 was super funny and fun I think, you know, I 231 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:55,120 myself fall into the culture warhole so much of like 232 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:57,399 being angry about this or being mad at someone that 233 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,159 I want to be like this is like a beautiful 234 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,679 art form that I love, and I wanted to write 235 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,960 something that like how it influences our lives. Like there's 236 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,000 a lot of books that are about the history of 237 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,360 games that are like beautiful bitmat books that are like 238 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:11,559 you know, coffee table books that show you all this 239 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:15,120 amazing imagery. But I hadn't really seen a lot of 240 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:17,000 like you know books that you see about movies or 241 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:18,840 music where people are like, here is how this art 242 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,360 form informs our very lives. And that's what I wanted 243 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:24,200 to do. I really wanted to celebrate and write a happy, 244 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:26,759 funny book, and I kind of hope I did that. 245 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very cool. 246 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm laughing outloud on almost every page. 247 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,039 Speaker 6: Thank you not kidding? 248 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Like I said, really looking forward to it. 249 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,240 I let's get people the call to action, like when 250 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,159 can they get it? Where should they go to get it? 251 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,879 All that good stuff. 252 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:44,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely. So this book is called Good Game, No Rematch, 253 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:46,519 and it is available anywhere you can buy books. So 254 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:48,120 you can get it on Amazon, you can get it 255 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,279 on you can get it at Barnes Noble, you can 256 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,159 get it on bookshop dot Org if you're if you 257 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,559 want a shop indie. It'll be available digital, hardcover, and audio. 258 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:59,600 I read the audiobook and it's all available April first. 259 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:01,120 I know that it sounds like a bit and it 260 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,000 sounded like they were messing with me when they told 261 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,480 me that, but April first, So if you if you 262 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:08,759 want to get something very exciting right before the switch 263 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,039 to news, Michael comes out. 264 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: Out there, compete with the switch to man. 265 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,399 Speaker 6: When they when they when they said switch to news 266 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,840 April second, I was like, motherfuck, Like, couldn't have been 267 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:22,559 like the fifth. 268 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,279 Speaker 1: Was there any discussion of someone else doing the the 269 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,799 audiobook or where he was like, oh, no, of course 270 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:29,720 I'm always going to do that. 271 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,639 Speaker 6: It was sort of they sort of we sort of 272 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:34,440 had decided early on that I was going to do it. 273 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,600 I had pitched and as a joke having Keith David 274 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:39,320 read a chapter as a bonus check. 275 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: It's very good. Yeah. 276 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,639 Speaker 6: Their response was basically like, do you know how much 277 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,440 that would cost us? And I was like no, when 278 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,480 they were like, we're not going to do that unless 279 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:50,559 you paid for him, We're not doing that. 280 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,519 Speaker 3: I always had there something inherently weird about like an 281 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,360 autobiographical thing being read by someone other, because like I 282 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:59,120 did the Anxiety book and a company reached out to 283 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:01,639 me being like, hey, we will make the audiobook for you. 284 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:03,879 We have professional voice actors, we have all this, and 285 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:05,440 I was like, yeah, I want to do the audiobook, 286 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,960 but can I do it? And like so I went 287 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,840 into a place in New York and recorded. Mind Like, 288 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,039 how did you find that process? Because like it's so weird, 289 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 like you have to be so aware of your voice 290 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:16,080 and clearing throats and it's such an au natural way 291 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 to talk, like it just like hours and hours and hours. 292 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: It was odd. 293 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,799 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it takes hours and there's take after take 294 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,639 after take. I'm lucky in that I had a really 295 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:27,879 great uh director and sound engineer who also really enjoyed 296 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:29,240 the book, so they got what I was trying to 297 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:30,879 do with it. I'm sure like if I had someone 298 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,559 who was just confused by it, it would have been worse. 299 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:38,159 But I think what I struggled with was, you know, 300 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,799 you can hear this in the way I'm talking right now, 301 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:41,320 and if you ever listen to my stand up, I 302 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,360 talk pretty fast, and so I had to really work 303 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,720 hard to slow myself down yeah yeah, and be more 304 00:12:47,759 --> 00:12:50,720 deliberate with the way I read but while still keeping 305 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,879 Joe Cadence in my voice and emphasizing the right words, 306 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,159 you know, uh, slowing down but not making it sound 307 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,600 like I'm reading a report in high school. Yeah, and 308 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:02,799 that was like the most work was like, you know, 309 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,480 reading it but in my head being like, okay, talk 310 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:09,600 at a more normal clip. You don't have to bum 311 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,759 rush all of your words out. But it was also 312 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,600 it was super fun and again the crew of the 313 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,600 sound engineer and the director were like really supportive and 314 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,000 really fun, and they also like gave me great reads. 315 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:23,639 Like at one point I was stumbling and he was like, 316 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:25,879 how about you try it this way, And it made 317 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,120 the joke better than it actually just reads in the 318 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,279 book itself. So it was a really good process. But yeah, 319 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:32,120 it took like a week. 320 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just always been and I've told you this personally, 321 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,480 but like I've been in awe of your career because 322 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,919 it's just like, you know, not just like the you know, 323 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,639 the video games with Nintendo and everything, but also you're 324 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,279 a late night guy. And so I remember the first 325 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,519 time we got drinks in San Francisco, probably a decade 326 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:50,559 ago or more at this point, and just like I 327 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,399 was just kind of marking out, just asking about like 328 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:55,399 the process of right monologue jokes intern at SNL and 329 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,320 all that stuff. Like so you've been like the one 330 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,320 guy I know that's like done, like the Late Night County, 331 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,519 the stand up com thing and the video game stuff, 332 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,759 and now you're writing for TV. 333 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: And it's just always been very very in awe of your. 334 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,639 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you. I've been very lucky. I feel 335 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:10,120 like I've, like mister magoot, into a career, like I 336 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,039 stepped on a banana peel that hit a pie cart 337 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,120 and like walked onto a construction site and I have 338 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:14,519 a career. 339 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Hey, mister McGoose, the one old reference I think we 340 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:19,919 could still get away with. That's like the old man reference, 341 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:22,200 Like no, we get that, we get what you're going for. 342 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,240 I don't. I mean they know them. 343 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 6: I think they know like the tropes of the Three Stooges, 344 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,840 but they probably don't know like they know like whoa 345 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:32,840 whoa whoa wall and like an eye poke, but they 346 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:34,440 might not go off. 347 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,039 Speaker 2: To a child and try to poke them in the 348 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:37,960 eye with like you know, the two fringers out and 349 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,240 if they. 350 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:44,879 Speaker 3: Another thing I'm in awe of is Mike Manatti's longtime 351 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:48,080 handle on the Internet, and I now I want to 352 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,720 see if Mike Drucker can can guess what this is Manati, 353 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:52,399 do you want to explain? 354 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:55,559 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, yeah. My my handle is told koto 355 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,399 e O l k O t oh. Do you have 356 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,360 any idea what that? 357 00:14:59,399 --> 00:14:59,879 Speaker 4: Possibly? 358 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Can we say that it's a portmanteau? 359 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: Well you did? 360 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I did. 361 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,639 Speaker 6: What sucks is? I feel like once you explain it 362 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:10,480 to me, it'll make all the sense in the world. 363 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:11,759 And I'm just not thinking of. 364 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,799 Speaker 1: This way nerdier than you're even thinking. 365 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: Okay, something you would definitely get the reference of druggery. 366 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 6: Just give it to me because I'm gonna be mad 367 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,480 no matter what. 368 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought this was very cool when I 369 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,840 was fourteen, came up with this. It's a combination of 370 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Tolkien and Mia Moto. 371 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,519 Speaker 1: Every time we tell somebody. 372 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,559 Speaker 2: This person is surrounded by funny people. I don't know, 373 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,200 because it's so cool, right, that's the. 374 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,039 Speaker 6: Coolest thing ever. No, yeah, that's bring up on a date. 375 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I been what he got to that. 376 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: Everybody else like gets rid of their handles once they 377 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,440 start doing these shows. I'm like, please don't call me Tolkoto. 378 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: It's a lot of those. 379 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:12,679 Speaker 6: I think you could be the fan that would actually 380 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,679 break the real Miamoto if you told you I'm not 381 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,519 doing this anymore. 382 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm going back to my garden, my band. I never 383 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:21,559 want to see you again. 384 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: I've heard too many stories of like fans disappointing. I 385 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:28,080 don't know if I could bear that. 386 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:32,039 Speaker 1: All right, I think it's time to talk about some 387 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:42,360 video games. Let's do that, all right? Uh, who's been 388 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,960 playing something? And what god do you want to talk 389 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,799 about that we can talk about. I've been playing a 390 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:47,720 game and turn me onto. I can't mention yet, which 391 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,240 is all I can think about. Keep tearching it for everybody. 392 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:51,639 Speaker 4: Well, I guess'll tease a little bit. 393 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: Are you uh? 394 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: Are you enjoying it? 395 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm frigging in love. 396 00:16:54,799 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: With you right now. 397 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: This is killing I'll just tell you right now. I 398 00:16:58,279 --> 00:17:00,159 know I'm sorry. I really do hate the tea, but 399 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,480 it's just all I can think about. So I'm a 400 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,759 bad person trying to kick. 401 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,279 Speaker 4: Us coming out. 402 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,279 Speaker 6: It's embargoed for another like wild Is there a portmanteau 403 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:07,960 of it you could do? 404 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: That would be yeah? The Tolkien and hawk Hogan actually. 405 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, not bad coin. Yeah, sure it sounds like 406 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,880 a sounds like to Boggin, But yeah, ET, I beat 407 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,119 Et the Extraterrestrial from the Attorney twenty six hundred. Oh weird, 408 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,880 what it sucks. I watched you play it. I knew 409 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,400 what to do. It still took me longer than you. 410 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:36,480 Oh my god. It's yeah. 411 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: You were giving me ship when I was playing it, 412 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,640 and it was it was cathartic to watch you play it. 413 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,799 So Drukker, the three of us we do a show 414 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:45,599 called blight Club where we play two completion the worst 415 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,119 games of all time. Yeah, and uh, we just did 416 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,039 a blightening round, which is we did shorter games and 417 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:54,599 so Grub played Blues Brothers two thousand for the sixty 418 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:59,240 four Minati beat Fester's Quest in uh three hours. 419 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I think three hours. 420 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I beat Et on Wednesday in about an 421 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,119 hour and a half. Have you played Et? 422 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 6: I have, but I've never beat it. 423 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Did you understand like the mechanics or. 424 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,599 Speaker 6: Anything, not even a little not even a little bit. 425 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, So my understanding was that, like I guess, Gub, 426 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,440 what was the deal with the instructions? Like nobody back 427 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,599 then actually read the instructions. 428 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so so you know, games came with manuals, but 429 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,319 no one read them because all Atari games were so simple. 430 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,039 It's a control stick, it's a one button. So all 431 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,480 kids back then, for the most part, were accustomed just 432 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:34,359 putting the game in and you make the plane go 433 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,440 up and down, or you move the tank around and shoot. 434 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,200 It was so self explanatory that people were not used 435 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,039 to reading the manual. And et is the one game 436 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:44,440 where it's like, no, there are like five six, seven 437 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,680 icon and context specific buttons that will change and it's 438 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,359 really to one button, but it'll change de pitting where 439 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,720 you're standing on the map, and so figuring that out, 440 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:55,720 like is what the real reason so many people hated 441 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:58,240 that game was. But also then it's just a bad 442 00:18:58,279 --> 00:18:59,240 game underneath as well. 443 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, even once you understand what you're doing, it is 444 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,440 absolute dogshit, right. 445 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: The whole joke about how most of the game is 446 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,079 you just falling and getting out of holes is one 447 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,559 million percent correct, and it feels so terrible every time 448 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,200 it happens. 449 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I did, I did, like what kind of like look 450 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,240 into the game a little bit more since you guys 451 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,119 both finished it and I played the easy version there's 452 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,359 actually three difficulty modes. It defaults to the most difficult one. 453 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,599 So I've only been on level one, which does not 454 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,920 have the enemies like walking around, like coming to take 455 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,640 you away. But there's still this common sentiment among like 456 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,519 people are like, no, this is not as bad as 457 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:37,400 people said it was, Dan, Mike, how do you respond 458 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,880 to that wrong? 459 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,799 Speaker 3: Well, the thing, the thing I see people use to 460 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:43,440 defend it is that like, oh, the guy had five 461 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,519 weeks to make it, And I'm like, yeah, I get 462 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:47,400 that's not a great spot to be in, but that 463 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 doesn't mean the game is any better it is. It 464 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:54,119 is significantly worse than I think I had expected from 465 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,400 reputation because I thought it was just a thing where 466 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,000 it's like, oh, everybody bought it because it was et 467 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,519 and it was licensed and it was just kind of 468 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:02,880 boring or no. No, it's just confounding and makes you 469 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,839 feel awful as you play it. So yeah, I would 470 00:20:05,839 --> 00:20:07,119 say it's significantly worse the next one. 471 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,759 Speaker 4: Look, we're not saying that the guys should go to jail. 472 00:20:09,559 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: Or something, right, Fine, we're not mad at them, but 473 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,200 the game is not good. 474 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,599 Speaker 4: I do not like playing it. 475 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 6: I think the guys should go to jail. And that's 476 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,200 what I'm for. 477 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,079 Speaker 4: I like it exta. 478 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: I did play a Half Life two RTX. You guys 479 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,799 get a chance to look at this. It's the RTX 480 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,000 update for Half Life two. 481 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:32,559 Speaker 6: How is that I want? I want to set that up? 482 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:34,480 I mean I keep I always want to set up 483 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:36,799 these RTX and these like new demos, and I never 484 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:38,759 do on games I've already beat and I need to 485 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:39,000 do that. 486 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:41,599 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is definitely one where it's 487 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,640 worth it because it's, uh, it's right in that sweet 488 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,759 zone of it's Yeah, it's a simple game. Geometrically speaking, 489 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:51,480 there's not like a million polygons, so they can get 490 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,440 this running and do like the full path tracing for 491 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:57,319 people who don't know. Basically, it's just the computer calculating 492 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,559 how light will bounce around a room so they can 493 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:02,920 make the light look the lighting look very realistic and 494 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,039 so then but then on top of that, it's like 495 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,160 still got really good art and the way that they 496 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,440 do put everything together looks really just nice. And so 497 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:14,799 the actual visual effect of a fire being around a 498 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:17,519 corner and the light from that bouncing around off the 499 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:19,920 off the wall, and then refracting around the corner and 500 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,200 creating a shadow, and then the light from that wall 501 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,200 that's reflecting there down on top of that shadow, so 502 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,599 there's a little bit of a layer of light on 503 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,599 top of that is enchanting. It looks so good now. 504 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,960 It is a kind of a community made it. The 505 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,359 community made this as like a mod on top of 506 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,680 Half Life too, so people have to own Half Life too, 507 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,079 which I think everyone does. But it's a little crashy, 508 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,079 like it was crashing on me pretty frequently. I think 509 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,000 a lot of people are experiencing this as well. So 510 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:47,720 don't maybe go into this thinking this is the way 511 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,359 I'm going to play Half Life two. But if you 512 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,400 want to like see Half Life two in a new way, 513 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,400 you can go in there do that. It gives you 514 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,640 the full RTX sort of module on top, so you 515 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,240 can turn off all the features individually, so you can 516 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:00,759 kind of go back to see what it used to 517 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,400 look like, turn on just some of the archaects features, 518 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,759 or turn it all on. And yeah, it's worked really 519 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,599 well for me. Now, I was running on a fifty 520 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,599 eighty and so it was running pretty well for me. 521 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:13,200 People were like on thirty sixties were saying this is 522 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,599 just like, I could not play this game anymore. It's 523 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,400 twenty frames per second, so maybe you have to we 524 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,279 might have to have some pretty beefy hardware to take 525 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,160 advantage of it. But I think it's worth it to 526 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:25,680 like just see what this technology can do. And at 527 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,519 the same time, I'm not like going around and be like, oh, 528 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:30,599 this is the future, because it is still pretty tough 529 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,359 for most or most PCs to run this stuff. 530 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm plugging in your computer tonight. So you know, 531 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,920 I love Half Life two. Half Like two is still 532 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,680 one of my favorite games, so it definitely would like 533 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,640 to at least see what this looks like. So it 534 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,559 might be one of the first things I install on 535 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:45,920 the thing. 536 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I, oh, do you have a question? 537 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,200 Dan there? 538 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,039 Speaker 4: Oh no, we're moving on. I was gonna miss another game. 539 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead please. 540 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were talking about PC stuff and it's like, man, 541 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,119 I'm doing that. We saw connect Plus for Assassin's Creen Shadows, 542 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,960 and it is like, you know, even on the five Pro, 543 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,319 you know, it runs fine, it's got the different modes 544 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,319 and everything you can do on Assassin's Creed. But boy, 545 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,240 I switched over to the PC and that Ubisoft Connect 546 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,519 stuff works really really well. Immediately there's my last save, 547 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:12,839 and it does look just a million times better on 548 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,319 the PC. But as I play that, it's like, I think, 549 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,759 I said this on the BombCast earlier this week, that like, you. 550 00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: Know what, I'm enjoying it. 551 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,079 Speaker 3: Fine, I'm enjoying it more than I've usually enjoyed Assassin's 552 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,200 Creed games. But I knew that once I came across 553 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,319 something else they grabbed my attention, i'd probably bounce off 554 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:29,400 pretty hard. And mystery game that Greb and I are playing, 555 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,799 I started playing that, and it's like, well, okay, I 556 00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:33,599 have not touched Assassin's Creed. 557 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 4: Since I started playing that. 558 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,599 Speaker 3: And it's also a hard one to imagine myself going 559 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,519 back to because even like a better Assassin's Creed and 560 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:40,839 one that I've enjoyed more than the. 561 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: Past, is still pretty dry to me. Yeah, and the 562 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,359 fact that like just the story and it's just it's 563 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,240 it's so wait you talked about. 564 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,039 Speaker 1: It's a revenge story. Those are your favorite and only 565 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:51,759 stories you like. 566 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:53,799 Speaker 3: But I like it when it's with like fun characters 567 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:56,519 and stuff, and like everyone's boring an Assassin's Creed and 568 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,160 they always have. 569 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: Characters are the enemies that you kill basically as you 570 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 find them, right, So it's like I thought that there'd 571 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:05,240 be a lot more of the like the cool Murderers 572 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Row that they showed off at the beginning of the game, 573 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,880 being like, Okay, they're going to be like interacting in 574 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,000 the story, and I'll intersect with them over and over 575 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,119 and it's like, no, you just track them down, and 576 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,559 when you do, you kill them, So you don't get 577 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,359 much more of the of the fun stuff of them 578 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,079 looking really neat with their cool masks and stuff like that. 579 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,680 So I'm thinking I'm in a pretty similar boat. I'm 580 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,039 enjoying it still, but you're right, it's going to be 581 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,480 pretty easy to peel me away from it now, you know. 582 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:28,000 Not that that doesn't mean it's not a good game. 583 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,240 It's still pretty good. 584 00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: Yep, yep. 585 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: I also got the Ambernik, the RG thirty four whatever 586 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,559 it was that that game it's the game Boy Advance 587 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:42,559 one that it is not the sp and been playing 588 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,640 that more and more. And I mentioned last night on 589 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240 another show that I really don't like the face buttons 590 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,480 because because it's so dedicated to looking like a game 591 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,200 Boy Advance. What it does is it has the A 592 00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:57,160 and B button as full size you know, gray buttons 593 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,599 right there, and then it puts X and Y equivalents 594 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,039 above those, but directly above them, not in the diamond format. 595 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,640 So just imagine no imagine playing like Tony Hawk, right 596 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480 this is this isn't for me. If you're controller maybe 597 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,839 this is like kind of an obsessive thing, but I 598 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,720 love Tony Hawk. If you can't play Tony Hawk with 599 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:17,640 the with the face buttons, I think you've messed up. 600 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:20,200 And it's not very good. It's very similar to the 601 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,279 setup of the face buttons on a duke controller, but 602 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:27,559 actually kind of worse because they're even more mushed together 603 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 and the top the buttons are a little bit smaller, 604 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,680 so it all just feels wrong under your thumb. I'm 605 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:36,039 kind of at a point where it's like, I think 606 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:38,440 I might only be able to play game Boy Advance 607 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,440 games with this, really and maybe like game Boy games 608 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,119 another two button controller games now for that it's really good. 609 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: Well even like GBA, would you ever take it over? 610 00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:49,079 Speaker 3: Like you know, we've got the the trem Ui brick 611 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,400 and then you've got the sp one from Ambernick. Like 612 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,200 if you're gonna play like an Advanced Wars or something like, 613 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,440 wouldn't you pick one of those first? 614 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,279 Speaker 1: Or even I mean, you know it's it's uh, I 615 00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,759 mean analog pocket. Yes, probably, Yeah, you're right, but I 616 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,960 still like the form factor of it being, you know, 617 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,559 the long candy bar version of the Game Boy Advance. There. 618 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:07,400 I still have a nostalgia for that, even if I 619 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,319 did love the sp more. But yeah, I don't know. 620 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,680 In this moment, I'm playing Mother three on there. It 621 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680 does the really good filter of making the LCD screen 622 00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:19,039 look like a Game Boy Advance LCD screen with like, 623 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,359 you know, the lines between the pixels, like the very 624 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,279 h you know, segmented look of that screen. And so 625 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,680 it's like, I'm feeling good about this in this moment. 626 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,039 But if I like put them all in a drawer 627 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,279 in and I had to like, Okay, I'm gonna go 628 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,160 play a game Boy Advance game and I have to 629 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,920 pick one to do that with, You're right, this probably 630 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,400 would not be the first pick. 631 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: It's interesting how they all because you know, we have 632 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,319 the same sickness, and I'm sure it's the way with 633 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,920 you certain games you just decide like, Okay, So if 634 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,480 it's something you're really like, you know, I'm playing through 635 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,519 these Warrior Land games now, and those are ones that 636 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:52,279 I want to sit down and actually really play. The 637 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,359 Analog is what I'm doing, you know, because it's like 638 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,000 that is going to be the best form factor. It's 639 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,160 going to look great and everything. And then like the 640 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,680 trim Ui brick is now my go to for like 641 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,160 fits in a pocket easily. It's when I can throw 642 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,160 in a bag and not worry about it because it's 643 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,319 a little cheaper and I put a glass protector on 644 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480 the screen everything, so that's fine. So it's either like 645 00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:11,960 the SP or the trim Ui is the good Like 646 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,640 on the go, it's fine, it's you know, it's not 647 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 gonna get I wouldn't want to put an Analog in 648 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,640 a bag that's gonna get you know, thrown around on 649 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,759 a trip or something like that. 650 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 651 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,839 Speaker 6: Yeah. 652 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: And then the SP is the one that I bought 653 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,200 a few of when they were on sale and just 654 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:28,160 cloned my card with all the RUMs so like I 655 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960 can give out on like you know, birthdays and stuff 656 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,799 like that, because I think that's such an easy one. 657 00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:34,200 Like everyone loves that form factor of the SP And 658 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960 those were like fifty bucks or something from Ambernick at 659 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 least when they were on sale. 660 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,839 Speaker 2: And I really need to get one of these clamshell ones, 661 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,519 I think, because one I want to play Mother three 662 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,039 and it seems a good way to do it too. 663 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,400 You know, I was at I had a theme park 664 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,079 experience recently, right, and I was in lines one time. 665 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240 I was actually just in this like hour long line 666 00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,519 by myself. And I mean, you know, back in the 667 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,839 day when I still have a three DS on me 668 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,799 all the time, that was fine, and that was nothing. 669 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,519 But these days, you know, like the Switch is my 670 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:05,720 main portable system, and I can't really put the switch 671 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:08,160 in my pocket to really bring it around with me 672 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,319 in a theme park. So I do miss having my 673 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:14,000 actual pocket handheld for situations like that. 674 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: You know what I loaded up on the analog this 675 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,720 week since I was reading the Drukker's book is I 676 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,079 was obsessed with Mortal Kombat as a kid, but I 677 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,599 was you know, the Arcade and then the Genesis version, 678 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,599 so Mortal Monday it was just the Genesis version. And 679 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:29,799 then eventually I got the game gear because I wanted 680 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,559 to be able to play Mortal Kombat on the go, 681 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,720 and that was a pretty shitty version, but I never. 682 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,599 Speaker 4: Played the game Boy version. Oh hearing Drucker describe it, and. 683 00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're talking about the first one is 684 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:42,960 terrible and the second one's pretty good, and the third 685 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,839 one went back to terrible. 686 00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:45,359 Speaker 4: And I played him like, oh, you were dead on 687 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:45,720 with that. 688 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's bizarre that like when 689 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,039 you play Mortal Kombat two in the game where you're like, oh, yeah, 690 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:54,279 this is like a reminder that fighting games could be 691 00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:56,160 on the Game Boy and be pretty good, but one 692 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400 in three are like it. It feels like they're making 693 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,160 fun of you. Man, especially three, after two is pretty good, 694 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,160 like the first one, you're like, okay, they improved. Number 695 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,519 two is better. They did their job, and then three 696 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,759 is just such a kick in the nuts. It is 697 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,400 the worst game, and it's and it's not like Ultimate 698 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,839 Mortal Kombat three, So it's Mortal Kombat three with even 699 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,359 fewer fighters than are in Mortal Kombat three. 700 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: I planned the first one. 701 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: I've planned it on the analog, and I was like, 702 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,079 I don't know if like I know, this game is 703 00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:25,559 supposed to be bad, but I don't even know if 704 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:30,720 this is running properly, because this is like it's not 705 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,759 just oh I can't do sub zero freeze. It's like 706 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:34,240 it's not registering my kick. 707 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll do like a punch at like when I say, 708 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,519 after you press the button almost like it's almost like 709 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,559 when it lags on a real emulator, when you're like, oh, 710 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440 this punch is happening after I'm punching. But that's just 711 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,480 the way. No, it's running correctly. Like, it is running correctly, 712 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,599 like I have, you know, I have one of those 713 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,480 you know, mod retros, and I have an analog and 714 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:56,079 it runs terribly on everything. 715 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. 716 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,359 Speaker 2: It was worse than I expected, for sure, I remember. 717 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:03,640 But the g our Mortal Kombat Advance was also terrible. Ye, yes, 718 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,960 you think they would have figured it out at that 719 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,480 point and that was just also a travesty. But boy, 720 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,839 all those deal Geo Pocket Color fighting games, those were 721 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,640 those amazing. 722 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:13,839 Speaker 4: They were so good. 723 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,759 Speaker 6: Those are amazing. I think that that the the Neo 724 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:20,759 Geo Pocket Color Cap Converse s MK to me is 725 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,839 the best of the fighting game series, of that fighting 726 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640 game series, it's the best one good. 727 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I played so much of that while I was 728 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,200 dragged to high school basketball games or something. Just doing 729 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,960 the arcade mode with Terry and Ken over and over 730 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,920 again felt so good. 731 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:38,799 Speaker 4: Oh, Mike, can I spoil an anecdote from uh? Okay? 732 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,039 Speaker 3: Can I let you the way you disappointed your father 733 00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,839 while accidentally accomplishing his dream at a sports game? 734 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,599 Speaker 6: So I would uh back as a kid like my 735 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,200 dad would. My dad really wanted me to like sports. 736 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,960 He didn't really care if I played sports or not. 737 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,599 So he wasn't like a dad who's like, my son's 738 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,279 going to play football. It was more like my dad 739 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160 was only interested in sports. So the only thing he 740 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,720 could understand that I could be interested in with sports, 741 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,079 And so he would force me to go to Miami 742 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,920 Dolphins games. Back then it was called the Florida Marlins, 743 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,599 called the Miami Marlins now. And one time we were 744 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960 at this Florida Marlins game and my death throat his 745 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,599 whole life. Had always brought a baseball glove to baseball games. 746 00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:18,759 Had always talked about wanting to catch, whether it be 747 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,440 a foul ball or a home run or just a 748 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,640 you know, player throwing the ball because he felt bad 749 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,759 for you and he'd never done it. He always wanted 750 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,599 to do it. And I would bring a game boy 751 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,039 to these games because they didn't care back then. And 752 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,519 one time I was playing like I was playing, and 753 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,759 I heard like a big commotion behind me, and I 754 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,279 was like, Okay, something's going on. And what had happened 755 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,680 was someone had hit the ball and it had like 756 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,319 gone near my section, and while I was not paying attention, 757 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 it basically went like through layers of people trying to 758 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,640 catch it before it landed right in my chair. Like 759 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,039 I was bent over playing and my back sort of 760 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,599 was away from the chair and the ball landed in 761 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480 that Oh my god. And then I sort of shot 762 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,119 back up because I understood what was happening by this point, 763 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,880 I shot back up, kind of hit the ball and 764 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920 waited for the commotion to die down, because you know, 765 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:12,720 if you've been to a sporting if you've been to 766 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,640 a baseball game, like people are really trying to get 767 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,000 that ball. And once everyone gave up, I turned to 768 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:19,680 my dad and I was like, hey, Dad, I caught 769 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,680 the ball. And he was so so disappointed, like so 770 00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:29,319 and he wasn't like mad. It was almost like it 771 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640 was almost like I had sarcastically lived his dream. 772 00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:36,799 Speaker 1: This is what you've been waiting out your whole life 773 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,160 for this shit sucks. 774 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 6: At Have you tried like bringing War of the Worlds 775 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,000 to a baseball game and reading. 776 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,839 Speaker 4: That I can't like it? 777 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,359 Speaker 1: Landing right there between your back and the Seaton is 778 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,119 the funniest place he could have gone by far. Yeah, man, 779 00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,359 what were you playing on your game Boy? Do you remember? 780 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,039 Speaker 6: I have no. I don't member at all. I don't 781 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,559 I mean knowing knowing me. It was probably something like 782 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,599 for some reason, I was really in the lock and Chase. 783 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,119 I don't know why that sure, I don't know it was. 784 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,359 Speaker 4: You know. 785 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 6: It was also around the age when like you would 786 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,839 get one or two game Boy games a year, and 787 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,319 so it was like you're either playing Alleyway or you're 788 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,640 playing nothing. And I think it was sort of like 789 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,160 that time. 790 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,599 Speaker 3: My mind were ones that I never had a game 791 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,839 Boy pocket or anything until my mom. She was a 792 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,559 waitress at Macaroni Grill at this point, and it was 793 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,359 like lost and found, like stuff would stay there for 794 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440 like a year and then we got to clear this out, 795 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:33,839 and so it's like, oh shit, I got a green 796 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,480 game Boy pocket and bugs Bunny Crazy Castle and bus 797 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Bunny Crazy Castle, God. 798 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 6: Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle. Bugs. Bunny Crazy Castle is like 799 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,880 the game Boy equivalent of like a Night's Tale, where 800 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,799 everyone had that on DVD for some reason, like it 801 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,200 just insisted everywhere. 802 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,119 Speaker 4: We're talking about with a Fester's Quest. Everybody, yes. 803 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: But my my weird game Boy game that I had 804 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,680 was it was a weird version of in f felt football, 805 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,319 where like when you would punt it over, the other 806 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:04,279 teams are like, oh, that's a turnover. It's like, oh, 807 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,240 the people that made this game did not understand this 808 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:10,360 story at all. I played that so much. Uh yeah, 809 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,880 go ahead, Mike. 810 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: I had Simpsons like bart Escape from Camp Deadly something 811 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,400 like that. It was just that was a camp krusty. 812 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,760 It was called Camp Deadly in the game. We had 813 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,719 nothing to do with that. It was just all those 814 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,440 Simpsons games were pretty bad back then. This one was rough, 815 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,000 and I remember desperately trying every game Genie code hoping 816 00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,119 that one of them would make the game fun. 817 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,639 Speaker 6: So it's never. 818 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: Punishments for if we ever quit a Blake Club game, 819 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,599 which has not happened yet. We all have too much 820 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,880 pride in beating these terrible games. But one of the 821 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719 punishments is you have to just play Bart versus the 822 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,800 Space Mutants to completion. All of us have that thing 823 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,239 of like, we all rented it because it was a 824 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,679 Simpsons game on any as, and no one's ever gotten 825 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:51,559 past that first level. 826 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,679 Speaker 6: I don't think I have. I've definitely played it and 827 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960 could not tell you what happens after that first level. 828 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible, complete nonsense. My my sports game Boy 829 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,519 story is my I was like okay with sports, but 830 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,559 I definitely preferred video games. My dad wanted to take 831 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,159 me on like some father's son. We're gonna go to 832 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,559 the Sweet sixteen for the March Madness, and it was 833 00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,519 in Saint Louis, another city, and it was like this 834 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:18,360 whole thing, and he got us like a helicopter tour 835 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,639 around Saint Louis and stuff like that, and that was 836 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,280 really cool. But the thing I was most excited, but 837 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,760 he's like, we're gonna get a game Boy game, and 838 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,039 I got Kirby's dream Land and I was playing that 839 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,679 the whole trip. And then I assumed that he like 840 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,480 didn't really notice what game like he got me. So 841 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,280 a few months later when I was like, okay, I 842 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000 haven't had a new game of quite some time, and 843 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,280 I've played through Kirby. I'm not going to play that again. 844 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,360 I'm like, hey, Dack, can we go to this. They're 845 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,119 doing this new thing where you could trade in games 846 00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,199 and get new games, and I could trade in this 847 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,079 and this Kirby game. He's like, isn't that the one 848 00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:48,760 I got you in Saint Louis? And I saw how 849 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,800 sad he was and I felt bad. So I still 850 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,880 have that copy of Kirby's Dreamland to this day. That's 851 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,119 how I disappointed him. Actually I did not respect the 852 00:35:58,119 --> 00:35:59,559 fact that he got me a gift. 853 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 6: That's actually sad. 854 00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: I felt terrible, and I still have carried that trauma 855 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,559 this whole time. 856 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I was, I shouldn't even tell I have 857 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,599 a similar, similar traumatizing story about kind of it was worse. 858 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,440 I was a brat because there's some kind of like 859 00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,800 birthday thing and I said I wanted Super Mario Land 860 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,320 three Warland, and my mom got me Mario Land two instead, 861 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,519 which I already had, So of course I was like, oh, mom, 862 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,320 I had this one, and she was I could immediately 863 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,119 see how sad she was. I was like, why did 864 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,199 I just not pretend I didn't did I do, what's 865 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:37,719 wrong with me? 866 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 4: Why am I a bad person? 867 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,519 Speaker 3: I went to Earthworm Gym two for Genesis, and my 868 00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,280 grandma got me Earthworm Gym one, and it was like 869 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,880 I didn't want to, Like I was like, oh, yay, 870 00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:47,840 you know at the thing. 871 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: But then we got home and I was like, Mom, 872 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,440 what do I do about this? Like I this is 873 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,599 not the one I need. 874 00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a note right now, call mom again 875 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,559 because I am am still motif. 876 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: I was such a dumbass. 877 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: And when it came to Christmas games, because like I 878 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,880 thought that like for some reason, the quality of the 879 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,960 game would increase the odds of me getting it as 880 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,280 a gift, when like my grandma didn't give a shit, 881 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,760 she didn't know what any of this stuff was. But 882 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,760 like I remember specifically wanning Star Fox for Super Nintendo 883 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,599 because I remember every Christmas I could ask for one 884 00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:19,159 game and my grandma would get it to me and 885 00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:20,880 I would like try to sell her on it, and 886 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 like again I could say anything and she'd been fine, 887 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,760 that's the game. This year, I faxed her an EGM 888 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,239 review of Star star Fox. Like everyone on the review 889 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840 crew liked it. I'm like circling it and like fax 890 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:34,280 the Star Fox review to my grandma and like, yeah, 891 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,559 I'm sure that put her over the edge. 892 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,599 Speaker 1: Of you had a fax machine in the home. 893 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 4: We had a fax machine the home. 894 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,679 Speaker 3: And I would also when I wanted to see movies 895 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,199 that my friends weren't super interested in. I remember the 896 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,199 Kansas City Star gave like a three and a half 897 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,320 star out of four review for Sergeant Bilko remake with 898 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,719 Steve Martin, faxing my friend Jeff the Sergeant Bilco review 899 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,039 be like, see you, we gotta see this. 900 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,599 Speaker 4: That was my move. 901 00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: Did it work? Did you see Sergeant Bilko? 902 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 4: Which you had to seeing it solo? I don't. 903 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,159 Speaker 1: The other bad time with the gift was I got 904 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:08,599 a Vice Project Doom like way after I was like, oh, 905 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:10,760 I want Super Nintendo games now, and that was an 906 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,159 NS game. And a friend came my birthday party, someone 907 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,480 I don't even like remember inviting, so they brought me up. 908 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,360 They bought me a video game, brought it to me. 909 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,039 I did it was not like you need to bring 910 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:20,360 me a present. They were like, no, we're doing this 911 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960 because we want to. And I was just like, oh great, 912 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,679 any S game and I'm like I did not sell 913 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,440 it as the way I needed to. And I also 914 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,440 carried that this whole time and apologized kids sucked. Yeah, 915 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,079 I just we're all just little shits. 916 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,639 Speaker 4: Just reminded me of me being a shit thing. I 917 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:38,039 don't know if you guys have heard this one. 918 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 3: I wanted the Dreamcasts so fucking bad when it was 919 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,360 coming out, but I definitely did not have the money 920 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,760 for it, because I think I just traded in everything 921 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,199 to get like the sixty four or like a year 922 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,840 or two prior. 923 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: And it was like a few weeks before. 924 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 3: The Dreamcast came out ninety nine, and it was preseason football, 925 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,639 and I remember my mom was upstairs, like getting ready 926 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:56,920 or something. She wanted to watch the Chiefs preseason game. 927 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,159 And I'm downstairs in the living room. I've got it on. 928 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,920 I've got the pre show on. And she's like, what 929 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,760 channel is the is the game on? I want to 930 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,199 put it on up here while I get ready, And 931 00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:06,960 I was like, Oh, it's on CBS, and she's like, no, 932 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,559 can't be on CBS. It's it's not on CBS football 933 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,480 doesn't it's I say, Mom, I'm looking at it's got 934 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,400 the eye logo. It's you know, I'm fourteen, at this 935 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,719 point where I'm like, yeah, it's on CBS, because Dan, 936 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,719 there's no way it's on CBS. I said, do you 937 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,559 want to bet me? And she goes yeah. I said, 938 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,400 all right, if I'm wrong, I will do all my 939 00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:24,960 chores for free for the week or for the month 940 00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:28,159 or something if I'm right. She was so confident that 941 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,079 she was right. I said, then you you have to 942 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,239 get me a dreamcast when it comes out in a 943 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,039 few weeks. She's like, fine, Okay, I know I'm right, 944 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,480 and I was right, and I was like, ah, I 945 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,800 was just celebrating up and down the halls in stead 946 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,559 of screaming and stuff. 947 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: And I remember my stepdad later that day pulling me 948 00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,320 aside and being like, Danny, I know you won that bet, 949 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,440 but like that's two hundred dollars and I don't know 950 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,400 that's going to be a lot right now. So if 951 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,519 you could just kind of you know, And I was like, no, 952 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,960 I but she's buying me a dreamcast. She bought me. 953 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:01,840 I would not back down. Wow, I won Barren Squares. 954 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 6: She knew the terms. 955 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 4: I won. 956 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, football so on CBS. I wish I'd 957 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,760 go back in time and help your mom. 958 00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:12,599 Speaker 4: Why would she so. 959 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 6: TV not on CBS, and it will never be on CBS. 960 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,639 Speaker 4: You lose her. 961 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 2: I'll be deep in the cold cold. 962 00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 4: The Chiefs preseason game is on CP. 963 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,159 Speaker 1: Just deserve to have that two hundred dollars. I should 964 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,440 have it. 965 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 6: I have no son. 966 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 4: Uh you know that's a little shitty. 967 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,119 Speaker 6: Damn. 968 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,679 Speaker 2: Dreamcast is pretty good bet to bet? 969 00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:45,079 Speaker 4: Do it today to my mom? 970 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it be somehow better today. Would also be more 971 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:51,400 expensive today. 972 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm looking for our Dreamcast. 973 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, because there was a time there where just 974 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,639 new Dreamcast, like they marked them down to fifty bucks 975 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,280 or something because they couldn't, you know, they couldn't sell them. 976 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,760 I was like, man, I wish I just bought like 977 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,920 four dream Cats and just to have them. 978 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 4: God, what a time. 979 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,199 Speaker 1: All right, here's what we'll do. Now, we'll take a 980 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,599 quick break. We'll come right back for live viewers, and 981 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,239 we'll get into our mount rushmore of video game first levels, 982 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,480 which we'll dis we'll discuss exactly what that means right 983 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:28,639 after this. All right, we are back, and I so, okay, 984 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,920 whose idea was? Damn? Was this your idea? Mike? Your idea? 985 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 4: Who Who's like, Hey, it was probably minor yours and 986 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,119 we immediately forgot grubbed. That sounds I'm sure of that, 987 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,800 so it's one of ours. We'll just say it was mine. 988 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, the works for me. Uh, this is 989 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,599 gonna be like first levels, but also maybe like first 990 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,559 introductory areas, right, what do we want to like cut off? 991 00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 3: I think we will as we if there's a question 992 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,199 about it, we'll we'll decide on. 993 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: People should be pretty strict about I don't know, level, 994 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,920 like if you're trying to tell me like oh, getting 995 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,239 up in metal gear Sola and you're walking our around 996 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,000 those first blocks or something. 997 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,119 Speaker 4: By the wise a level or something like. 998 00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: I don't think this is gonna be on there by 999 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,199 any means, but like a Glass Joe fight, you know, 1000 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,920 does that count? 1001 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,679 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's a yeah, Glass Joe, Yeah, it's What 1002 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,639 about something like a Mega Man where it's like, well, 1003 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,760 everyone does Metal Man first, Like I don't think that 1004 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:20,880 I can pick. I think that's the beauty of Mega 1005 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,320 Man is that there isn't a first level. So what 1006 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,000 about it's just not Mega but Mega. 1007 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,599 Speaker 6: Man has the first level because Mega mans introductor. 1008 00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 4: Yes that is true. 1009 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,039 Speaker 1: Okay, So like the village from Resident Evil four. Is 1010 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,119 that a first level? 1011 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,039 Speaker 4: That's a great. 1012 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: Question I'm asking, Yeah, like what of an opening sequence? 1013 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,519 I think games eventually at opening Swiss sequences pretty often. 1014 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,079 Speaker 4: You can't saying. You can't say the Tanker of Metal, 1015 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,280 your solid two, you know, like right. 1016 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So but we go through someth we think 1017 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,159 about ones that are definitely first levels. 1018 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 4: Then we see if we need to be so wiggle 1019 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,199 roomy with it anyways. 1020 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, there's gonna be a Mario, right, well, I 1021 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,280 mean it's gonna be one one, right. 1022 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one one's yeah, one One's great. 1023 00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,519 Speaker 2: I think the other Mario one that would maybe compete 1024 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,280 with it is bomb bomb Battlefield. 1025 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bomb Battlefield. 1026 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,679 Speaker 1: Mostly Mario on this list, if I'm being honest, All. 1027 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:18,519 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, but bomb Battlefield and one one are good choices. 1028 00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like what one one is the first level? Right, 1029 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,480 it's the George Washington, Right, you say first little video 1030 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,320 game even even has all those ones in it. If 1031 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,280 you say, there's lots of games that actually have a 1032 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,360 level called one one. But if you say one one, 1033 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,079 I'm gonna think about Mario. I'm gonna think about those 1034 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,039 first blocks and that first goomba you jump over, and 1035 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,280 then you get that mushroom, the secret pipe of course, 1036 00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:44,760 uh first u Piranha plant. Just so many things they're 1037 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,440 just setting up. What not just Mario, but video games 1038 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,760 are gonna be for a while. 1039 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that three despite being like one of 1040 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,920 the best Mario games, Like, you know, the first level 1041 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400 is a good level, but it's not like this iconic thing, you. 1042 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,159 Speaker 2: Know, right, yeah right, and then yeah, even world like 1043 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:01,639 the first of all is really good. That one's weird 1044 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,519 because I think one where there was actually the second 1045 00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:07,360 level you can yeah yeah, yeah, so with. 1046 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 4: A weird little Yoshi hut the first level. 1047 00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then god ba bomb Battlefield is just so 1048 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000 great because it does it has that kind of critical 1049 00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,599 path that you should follow, but it encourages you immediately 1050 00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,239 to go off in these different directions and that becomes 1051 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,039 very important for finding other stars. And then just the 1052 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,599 way it remixes that level for different goals, like the 1053 00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,960 race of Koopa the Quick but you know, the first 1054 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,880 time just scaling that mountain and actually going up and 1055 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,480 fighting King Babomb and immediately finding little secrets like the 1056 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,320 little shortcut when you're going up there or just you 1057 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,840 know how you could be a little sneaker and grab 1058 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,559 the ledge a bit early to get to the top 1059 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:43,159 instead of running all the way around. 1060 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,039 Speaker 4: Feels so good and very first level ends with this 1061 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:47,119 memorable boss. 1062 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,039 Speaker 1: Light right yeah. 1063 00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1064 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,599 Speaker 2: Oh the music is a huge part of it because yeah, 1065 00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,920 both of those right uh? Jan in the chat does 1066 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,159 mention Warehouse Tony Hawk won. 1067 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,519 Speaker 1: Oh I like that? 1068 00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:01,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's a good Tony Hawk has a lot. 1069 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,199 Speaker 2: I think the first three Tony games all have amazing 1070 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,840 ones with the warehouse hanger and then found the Yeah, 1071 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,559 Warehouse might be the most iconic of all of them. Still, Yeah, 1072 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,159 because even when I played Tony Hawk one again is 1073 00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,039 a part it's like man where euse is the best level? 1074 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,320 Still maybe all the levels just be a bit smaller 1075 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,440 like that. I love how sort of tight and compact 1076 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,800 it is. You know, all the goals are so close 1077 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,440 to each other. It almost feels like you could do 1078 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,719 it all in one run. 1079 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,079 Speaker 4: Boy. 1080 00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about the Warehouse a lot. 1081 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: All right, I'm still writing these down on this list 1082 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,400 for everybody so that the chack can watch along. So far, 1083 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,800 we have Super Mario Brothers, one Dash, one Super Mario 1084 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,800 sixty four, Bob the battlefield, and then where are we 1085 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,679 gonna go with Warehouse? 1086 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, yeah, Warehouse on there. 1087 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,159 Speaker 3: I think first level of Sonic Green Hill Zone, Yeah, yeah, 1088 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,440 I love Green Hill Zone. 1089 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: I mean the first time you do the loop and 1090 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,559 stuff like, that's that's huge. Yeah, you go in the tunnel. 1091 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 2: Gosh, that there's another one of good music and that 1092 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,199 was that was so vibrant and colorful right on the Genesis. 1093 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,159 I still love the way that Greenhills Zone looks. I 1094 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:13,000 mean it's so good that Sea honestly brings it back 1095 00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,559 way too often. It's like in every Sonic game sometimes yeah, 1096 00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,000 one way or another. 1097 00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 3: That's one whenever I'm setting up like a new emulation device, 1098 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,760 like I will like to test, like, oh, I'm just 1099 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000 gonna load up Sonic and check it out, like it 1100 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:25,679 looks awesome. 1101 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,679 Speaker 1: Still is the escape sequence from Super Metroid or like 1102 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,039 the setup of Castlevania simply and night are those introductory sequences? 1103 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,199 Speaker 2: Those are more like sequences, And I mean, I'm honestly 1104 00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,360 for Castlevania, I was thinking of just the first level 1105 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,719 of Castlevania one totally okay right there with them, you 1106 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,679 have that intro going from the castle. Then you have 1107 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960 Vampire Killer, which is an all time a great song. 1108 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,039 You're outside for a bit, then you're in the castle, 1109 00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:52,400 you're you know, you get the mermaid Man encounter ends 1110 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,320 with you fighting. 1111 00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 4: That giant bat. Uh. Yeah, I think about that first 1112 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,400 level all the time. 1113 00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,039 Speaker 6: And here's uh, here's another one great deco tree. 1114 00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 4: Oh okay for the first dungeons count for level. I 1115 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,519 think that's fair fucking good. Yeah, that makes sense. 1116 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 6: Because, like I think the opening of the game is 1117 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,239 like we're saying an opening sequence, like there's tasks, but 1118 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,000 you can't really fail them per se. But the great decutree, 1119 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,480 I feel like, is the first time you're like, oh, 1120 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:25,360 this is a I'm playing and I can fail. I 1121 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440 am outside of just like talking to people trying to 1122 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,039 block me from leaving this exit. 1123 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not the tutorial anymore. It's like you're actually 1124 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:32,199 playing the game. 1125 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1126 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 4: I think that Mike had a pretty good point earlier 1127 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,400 of Mega Man x. 1128 00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:37,119 Speaker 6: Uh. 1129 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 2: That Highway intro level is really cool, especially because you 1130 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,320 know the Megman games at that point were all, hey, 1131 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,599 pick your first level, and here you did have this 1132 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,159 intro sequence and it's a perfectly set up to teach 1133 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,239 you some of the new mechanics here with the dashing, 1134 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,480 especially the wall jumping. You have those memorable fights with 1135 00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,440 those giant b robots. You're dodging the cars, you can 1136 00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:01,960 even ride on them, get the introduction of vile, and 1137 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,960 then zero. 1138 00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:05,639 Speaker 4: It's a perfect little intro love it. 1139 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,079 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I see what you're typing. 1140 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,559 Speaker 1: One M one. Yes. Yeah, that's kind of like doom man. 1141 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,280 Yeah you kind of just yes doom exactly. You kind 1142 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920 of just this is a canonical first level in my brain. 1143 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,760 When I think of first levels, I go to doom 1144 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,519 E one M one. 1145 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 6: That's one of those levels. 1146 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,599 Speaker 4: E one M exclamation mark because you yeah, there we 1147 00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:26,360 go fixed it. 1148 00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,159 Speaker 6: That's like a level of played so much in my 1149 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:29,920 life that I feel like I could complete it with 1150 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,159 my eyes closed. And I'm not the person who could 1151 00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,320 do that easily with something, but like I can imagine 1152 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,880 the entire map just hearing E one M one. 1153 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: Yep, I've built a mental map of that absolutely, And 1154 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,239 you're right. I'm the same way where it's like I 1155 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,360 don't do that with most levels, but that one. It's 1156 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,199 just like I know that turn, I know where to 1157 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,519 get that thing and then yep, absolutely all the secrets 1158 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:48,840 walk back at the shotgun. 1159 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm usually a bit of a hater 1160 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,599 on this one. Wasn't what you all think of of God, 1161 00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:58,880 I'm forgetting damn. I forgot the word for damn for 1162 00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,880 a second and gold. 1163 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,519 Speaker 3: I was considering that, but then I was thinking, like, 1164 00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,239 I kind of like as far as the first little 1165 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,719 like facility, I think is better than DAN. So I 1166 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,920 was thinking out of those games Perfect Dark, the the 1167 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,880 like Skyscraper because that's you got the kind of played 1168 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,360 runner cars going by and everything. You know, you're running 1169 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,320 your way down the elevator, and like that Perfect Darks 1170 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,519 first level is better than Golden Eyes. 1171 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do like Dan, but yes, I 1172 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,039 agree with you that Perfect Darks is better. What's it 1173 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:26,840 called facility? 1174 00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 3: Uh no, no, no don't. I don't know the name Perfect Darks. 1175 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,880 That Golden Eye was the facility was the second level, 1176 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,719 but that that's not. 1177 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 4: I'll find out for you, Jeff, Thank you. 1178 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,079 Speaker 1: Than I gotta get a keyboard that isn't so loud, 1179 00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:44,079 Jesus Christ. Uh okay, let's. 1180 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:52,159 Speaker 2: Uh a collection central calling defection data dyning, Central calling 1181 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,639 defection are dying. 1182 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 4: In the chat. 1183 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 2: That's what this thing is called data Dine. It's it's 1184 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,920 the first the day of Dina's lowercase. Importantly, I'm gonna 1185 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,079 get this uppercase. 1186 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,199 Speaker 1: All right, camel cap, no regular cap. 1187 00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 4: There you go. There's no colon yet, there's no yet. 1188 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: Sorry for the errant colon. 1189 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:18,559 Speaker 4: Colon uh defection. There it is. 1190 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,519 Speaker 1: Okay, we got it. 1191 00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 4: Everybody killed it there, buddy, thank you. Chad mentions contrast 1192 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,480 stage one. 1193 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,639 Speaker 1: Oh that's that's good. 1194 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the one we've done a billion times and 1195 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,679 then died, you know. 1196 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1197 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 6: Someone in the Chad also mentioned Shadows of the Empire 1198 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,880 hath level, which I. 1199 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,599 Speaker 3: Actually think absolutely fantastic because I mean that is especially 1200 00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,159 good for this because that's like the part everyone played 1201 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:45,960 in light of that game. 1202 00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,639 Speaker 6: Yes, that was what inspired like eight other games after 1203 00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:51,800 that was more like they just want haf. 1204 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean like a whole genre of like those kinds 1205 00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:57,199 of like Arcadie flight sim games from especially from Factor five, 1206 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,119 Like we're just gonna keep making that stuff based on 1207 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,159 what they did over there with that. 1208 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,079 Speaker 2: Yes, that is it too similar to do the uh 1209 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,039 attack on the death Star opening from a Rogue Leader, 1210 00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:09,920 because boy was. 1211 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 4: That an amazing. Hot is I think hot. 1212 00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: It's just like here's the movie and then you do 1213 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,760 the trench run and it basically just looks like the movie. 1214 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,639 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah. 1215 00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean I literally can turn this TV on right now, 1216 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,719 we could play that. So yes, I feel very similar 1217 00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,079 about that level. But I think it's off between those 1218 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,360 two and we probably just have one of them. That's yeah, 1219 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,559 let's see how I had one. What was it? Oh, 1220 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,239 Star Fox sixty. 1221 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:42,079 Speaker 2: Four, Cornarian sixty four, especially secret change you can do. 1222 00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that boss fight's fun. 1223 00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,559 Speaker 6: Half of the dialogue is iconic, and it's just like 1224 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,719 twenty lines. 1225 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Che's is crazy taxing, but like that's just the level, right. 1226 00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit against the spirit. I 1227 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,199 guess the first level. 1228 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 4: I guess. 1229 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,079 Speaker 2: I don't know if there are enough there's a level 1230 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:08,320 of Tetris Tetris. I don't know if there's enough other 1231 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,840 piz here, but one and two a very good first levels. 1232 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:16,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, great chat suggestion, Metal of Honor, front Line Normandy Beach. 1233 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,920 I remember of Saults also was like Salt Console Boys, 1234 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,119 so I remember Frontline, but like I spoiled PC Bratt, 1235 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,960 I desperately wanted to play alight of Sult I remember was. 1236 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 4: Very I mean I think it's in the demo. Maybe 1237 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,039 I don't. 1238 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember if I actually owned the game. I 1239 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,880 just played the demo over and over again. 1240 00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 6: All right, what about Final Fantasy seven bombing of the 1241 00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:41,039 Maco Reactor? 1242 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 4: Is that a level? Excuse me. 1243 00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 2: If you if you tell me about this level and 1244 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,480 a j RPG, My first instances like, what is you 1245 00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,199 talking about level and a j RPG? 1246 00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 4: Again, I think that's more of an intro to me, 1247 00:52:57,159 --> 00:52:58,920 that intro sequence. 1248 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,119 Speaker 1: Right, and and honest, I think maybe we could return 1249 00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,559 to this with best intro sequence because like you know, BioShock, 1250 00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,800 Welcome to Rapture things like that, that's and that was 1251 00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:08,159 not first levels. They are something else. 1252 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 4: Chap Bering is a pillar of Autumn. Halo. 1253 00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering if you I was gonna ask 1254 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:17,599 you guys about Halo if that's uh cool? 1255 00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 3: But there, Yeah, there's so many better levels in that, 1256 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,119 and that one's just so kind of like claustrophobic. 1257 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:27,079 Speaker 4: I mean sets the tone very well, it's gonna make it. 1258 00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:28,840 I don't think it quite hangs. 1259 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, oh yeah, I was gonna say like similar, 1260 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,280 like better levels a portal, its first test chamber, which 1261 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,199 does establish a lot of cool stuff, but as that 1262 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:41,800 builds on. 1263 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 2: Top of itself, I mean, you know, I wouldn't have 1264 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,440 the first world gun yet, right yeah, yes, yeah, Like 1265 00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,760 both Halfway games have amazing intros, but I really want 1266 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,840 to call them the first levels. 1267 00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, Half Life's intro is a different thing, yes, yeah. 1268 00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 4: For sure. I don't uh, I don't think it's going 1269 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,400 to make it, but I think the first level of 1270 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,599 the First Crowd Bandicoot is probably the most I haven't 1271 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,199 enjoyed that series. You know. 1272 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 3: Sure it's got all the grush stuff there and it's 1273 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,960 not obnoxious, but I don't think it's gonna make it. 1274 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 4: Uh, Jeff, what about the first level shoots screached too? 1275 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 1276 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, Mike, I mean no. 1277 00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:15,119 Speaker 6: No, no, please go with that. But then I'm gonna 1278 00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:20,639 say Papa the Rapper. Oh yeah, it's a dojo. 1279 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 4: That's the one everyone remembered. It's the best level in 1280 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,599 the whole series. 1281 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great and it's it is a full level, 1282 00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:28,320 it's not just a sequence. 1283 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,199 Speaker 4: Yep. 1284 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,119 Speaker 2: I think I think the best video I've ever seen 1285 00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:35,440 on the internet. Still, if somebody like made that mod Parapa, 1286 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,719 the Rapper level where it's Batman and PaRappa and like. 1287 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 4: This is where I watched my parents die. This is 1288 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:48,440 where you watch. Yeah, they can't they can't get it up. 1289 00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:53,039 Speaker 1: It all right. The first level Parapa is called chop 1290 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:54,400 Chop Master onions wrap. 1291 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,679 Speaker 4: All right, there we go, Oh yeah, are we counting 1292 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,559 the village? No? If too much stuff to think about. Anyways, 1293 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,039 it's a. 1294 00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's an intro sequence, I guess. Yeah. I 1295 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,679 mean it's got like a beginning and end to it, 1296 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,800 like it like ends, but like it's a transition into 1297 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,519 the rest of the game. So yeah, I'm okay with 1298 00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:12,320 calling it a sequence. 1299 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 2: It's like my question if you went to somebody and said, 1300 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,360 what's your favorite level in resume before and they're like, 1301 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,360 what do you mean level? 1302 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. 1303 00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:21,679 Speaker 1: Do you mean area because like that's yeah, and that's 1304 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,559 just is a different thing. 1305 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 3: I guess, like Devil mccry has levels. I don't think 1306 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,280 Resident Evil necessarily does, you know? 1307 00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 1: Right? 1308 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 2: Okay, chapters and it's different too, it's weird. 1309 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: Do we want to read what we have so far 1310 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,239 and then see if we have any other last thoughts? 1311 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,679 Speaker 4: Sure? Sure, all right, by the way, the first level, 1312 00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,400 Oh thank you? All right, on me add that real quick, 1313 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960 saying that the discount link to the past. I mean, 1314 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,840 what would that would that be? Just going to the 1315 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,400 castle and getting out with the first or the first Yeah, Palace. 1316 00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:54,079 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really good. I mean, that's like 1317 00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,280 my favorite game ever. But I don't know if I 1318 00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:58,360 called the castle. I mean, that's just kind of setting 1319 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:58,880 the tone. 1320 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 4: All right. 1321 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,199 Speaker 1: Here's what we have so far for the Mount rushmore 1322 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,480 of first levels, Super Mario Brothers one to one, Super 1323 00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:12,239 Mario sixty four's Bobam Battlefield Warehouse, Antniok's pro Skater, Green 1324 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,280 Hill Zone from Sonic, the first level from Castlevania, Great 1325 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,119 Decu Tree from Ocarina of Time, the Highway Stage from 1326 00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:24,440 Mega man X E one M one from Doom Data, 1327 00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:28,559 Dine Central Defection from Perfect Dark, Stage one from Contra 1328 00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:33,079 Hath from Star Wars, Shadows of the Empire, Cornaria from 1329 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:37,039 Star Fox sixty four, Normandy Beach from Metal Vanner Frontline, 1330 00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:40,440 and also World War Two Streets of Rage two Downtown, 1331 00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:45,679 and Perappa the Rappa Chop Chop Master Onion. There's a 1332 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,639 lot here that I'm like, oh, I could go for 1333 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,800 any of these on this list. This might be tough 1334 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,360 to little down. 1335 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, soup Adam hit Man. The first level isn't really ye, Paris, 1336 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,760 it's like that sort of intro stuff. 1337 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, god man, if we could count Paris though, Paris 1338 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,079 is one of the best ones. 1339 00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I think it's that Boat one is 1340 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,000 enough of an actual level. 1341 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's tutorial mission, but it is a level. 1342 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 3: You're right, let's to take stuff off. I think I 1343 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,599 don't think Medal of Honor is gonna hang. It was no, 1344 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,920 but there's too many heavy hitters here. The first level 1345 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,320 of Sonic Adventure with the Whale. 1346 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 4: He look, I thought about it. People are gonna help me. 1347 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: But that level was actually the best Sonic has maybe 1348 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,360 ever felt in It's the most exciting I've ever been 1349 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,239 about Sonic. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty good. Mm hmm 1350 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,559 that level. What's Sonic at one level? 1351 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: Dude? 1352 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean everybody remembers that killer Whale of course. Yeah, 1353 00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:45,119 that's like an iconic video game moment. 1354 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:47,559 Speaker 6: God. 1355 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I could just like throw out 1356 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,159 my four and then you guys could tell me where 1357 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:52,559 I'm wrong. 1358 00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 4: It's called Emerald cuss By the way. I don't even know. 1359 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,679 Speaker 1: I think I would go with Bob on Battlefield, hath 1360 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,039 E one M one, and then god maybe Chop Chop 1361 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:07,760 Master Onion. 1362 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 4: I know one. 1363 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,599 Speaker 1: I think think I'm gonna go you guys, I was 1364 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,559 listening to your conversation. I mean, listen, one one should 1365 00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:19,199 probably be on there, but yeah, I don't know. I'm 1366 00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:20,960 trying to finish, like a weird part of me that 1367 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,920 that's like one one and be there because so important. 1368 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,920 There's so many good but there's only four slots, and 1369 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,800 it seems crazy don't to do two for. 1370 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,599 Speaker 2: Mario, but they're also so fucking good. Yeah, let's assume 1371 00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:36,239 we put both of them on there. Let's if you 1372 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,679 only had to let two other ones in there, which 1373 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,840 two would it be? 1374 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:42,679 Speaker 4: I like Warehouse a lot. 1375 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wareouse. Actually, I'm looking at that more and more. 1376 00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:46,320 That would be fantastic. 1377 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,119 Speaker 6: Actually, I would. 1378 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 3: Say Warehouse, perfect Dark, one and one yeah for keeping, 1379 00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:56,559 for keeping, Yeah. 1380 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,159 Speaker 4: That's a contender. 1381 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think one and one like clears 1382 00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:02,559 some of the other Shooter ones here, like yeah, definitely 1383 00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:04,440 Metal of Honor, definitely Perfect Dark. 1384 00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 4: I don't think I do like Casylvania first level I 1385 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,440 don't know if the Caslvani first level is gonna happen. 1386 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,920 Don a quiet hang. 1387 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: It's very good, doesn't quite hang, And maybe Contra has 1388 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,880 a little bit of the same problem. 1389 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,039 Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, yeah, I like it a lot. 1390 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, God, I think if we're a big 1391 00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:28,760 part of all these first levels, is also really good, 1392 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,400 like Songs and Contra and Streets Rage two Both and 1393 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,679 Star and Casylvania and. 1394 00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:43,559 Speaker 4: Green Hill Zone and. 1395 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,239 Speaker 1: Well of course Tony Hawk. Yeah, yeah, goss. 1396 00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:46,679 Speaker 4: It's really good. I think out of Tony Hawk might 1397 00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:48,840 be my next one. Yeah, I think Tony I think 1398 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,760 Whereholse might have to be a lock. I don't. There's 1399 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,719 no way I would be okay with it not being there. 1400 00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,559 Speaker 6: I could, I could, I could agree with that, Okay. 1401 00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: So I mean, right now we have one one Bob 1402 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,880 on Battlefield Warehouse and one m one leaving God. I 1403 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,960 don't leaveing off Hawk is tough. 1404 01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 4: That's such a first level. It's tough. 1405 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 2: But like the only thing I would be one to 1406 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,000 get rid of is one of the Marios, and it's just, yeah, God, 1407 01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:15,119 leaving both of those off seems like a lot. What 1408 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,239 what's the I will say the one that I would 1409 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,199 get rid of the most out of these left, maybe Decautry, 1410 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,400 just because there is so much game before there's very 1411 01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:25,079 hour probably Yeah that's fair. 1412 01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, jeez, I doom. The thing is I the music 1413 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,000 is I remember more than actually the level. I mean, 1414 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,880 I think it's it's cool. I'm really blown up. 1415 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,639 Speaker 3: The barrels and stuff was cool, but like I'm not 1416 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,000 like Drunker in that, like I can't picture, like I've 1417 01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:46,639 beaten that level a million times, but I think something 1418 01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:49,000 about the actual playing with Maybe it's because I played Wolfenstein, 1419 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,960 you know before the act, I wasn't already shocked by like. 1420 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,519 Speaker 4: Oh wow, you know, like I don't. I mean it 1421 01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:55,000 might have been the case with you too, Mike, but. 1422 01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:57,039 Speaker 6: No, no, no, it's fair. 1423 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,599 Speaker 2: I have a pretty photographic memory level, like yeah, especially 1424 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:02,800 that part where there's like the zig zaggy path and 1425 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,719 is the guy on the top left up there and 1426 01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:06,880 down Yeah, yeah. 1427 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: The little because over the top there. 1428 01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: We always like play do on everything right, and sometimes 1429 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,199 you're not going to get very far in it, but 1430 01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:14,760 you're always going to play that first level. 1431 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 3: Sombo in the chat says there's like five minutes before Decutrie. Yeah, 1432 01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:27,480 the sword in the shield and the rupees and everything 1433 01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:29,159 it's gonna be. There's a lot of cut scene and 1434 01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:29,679 stuff there too. 1435 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:30,119 Speaker 6: It's a lot. 1436 01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Decu tree talks for five minutes 1437 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,920 when you eat it. 1438 01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:39,239 Speaker 1: Like, let's yah, I guess let's keep cutting actually, so 1439 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,039 we can at least talk about some of these other ones, 1440 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,960 Mega man X and Sonic where What are you feel 1441 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,199 about that? 1442 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 2: I would get a Magma before Sonics, but it hates 1443 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:49,760 to I think that's I agree, it's good, I really 1444 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,599 do you know. 1445 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 4: I think that Mega Next Level is so good at 1446 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,440 introducing mechanics stuff. It's great. If it was a top ten, 1447 01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:57,679 it would be in there for sure. 1448 01:01:58,119 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1449 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 4: This it is four. It is just four, and that's rough. 1450 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,519 Speaker 6: I will say. Someone in the chat made a good 1451 01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:04,320 point of do we have any games that are from 1452 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,599 after two thousand and five? 1453 01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think is that, like, you know, the idea 1454 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,320 of games having levels were like that was like almost 1455 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,920 every game back then. Now you still have them, but 1456 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,599 it's not as much broken into levels, you know, right, 1457 01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:20,519 even the games that do have levels, it does almost 1458 01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:23,239 feel like, you know, some of it is that we 1459 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,039 are much better about easy people into games. 1460 01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe that the first levels can often feel maybe a 1461 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,519 bit tried and forgettable these even in. 1462 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,559 Speaker 4: A lot of the retro ones. 1463 01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: True, and it's and like, when I do think of 1464 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,239 like a modern first level, I'm like, well, Shovel Night's 1465 01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:39,079 pretty good and an old game too, and it's at 1466 01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:43,119 art or whatever, so yeah, my bad. Yeah. And then 1467 01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,639 turble Shot says nobody knows what the fuck Parpa is 1468 01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:52,400 and that's just cultural malpractice there, but rude that maybe 1469 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,719 doesn't actually make it. 1470 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair, it makes it not my personal list, 1471 01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:57,960 but not on the world. 1472 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: I love how different it is than these other ones too, 1473 01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,880 though you know, it's a I know, I agree. 1474 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 4: But Tony Hawk's pretty different too, you know. Yeah, times 1475 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:05,920 pretty different. 1476 01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:10,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what we have left right now. It 1477 01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:14,320 was some bolded but nothing's finalized. One one Bob on Battlefield, 1478 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:19,559 Warehouse E one M one, Green hill Zone, and hath Okay, 1479 01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:21,840 and actually I could take any four of those as 1480 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,079 long as ye yeah, there's no I don't really think 1481 01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:27,760 it needs to be on there. I don't think Green 1482 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,360 hill Zone does either, but I would rather see it 1483 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,840 on there than that. I'm pretty good with the four 1484 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,800 bolded honestly. 1485 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say every one of them, but HATH 1486 01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:38,360 I have gone back to and played numerous times within 1487 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,079 the last year. 1488 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,559 Speaker 1: You know, I've done that with HATH, So yeah, but 1489 01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:45,280 for me, like the I guess the argument of HATH 1490 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,320 would be, it really was that thing where that came 1491 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,880 out and it was like, oh my god, this is 1492 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,039 what we can do with three D and it was 1493 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,239 so like inspirational to so many developers immediately, like more 1494 01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:58,000 so than a lot of other things happening at that 1495 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,880 the exact same time. 1496 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would not I would not make a strong 1497 01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:05,719 argument about it, but I feel like HAF is better 1498 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,599 than the warehouse for the list. But I am not 1499 01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:10,400 going to put up a battle about this. I'm not 1500 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,199 going to fight anybody. That's just my personal opinion. 1501 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 4: Here's here's a thought. I think it's funny. Would it 1502 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,920 be if we replaced one one with green Hill Zone 1503 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,840 crazy stuff like that. 1504 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'll fla and lease most things with you, 1505 01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:26,800 but not that one. 1506 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 4: But true, I try. 1507 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean god, I would I would actually swap out 1508 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,519 one m one for HAF, even. 1509 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't personally, But what if we could do one 1510 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,239 or HOFF vote with the panel with that and with 1511 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,119 the knowledge that all of these are great. 1512 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 1: At this time, Yeah, yes, these are, like, but we're 1513 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,320 struggling because I want to put all of these. 1514 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,599 Speaker 2: Would maybe do a call for votes on HAWF versus 1515 01:04:58,079 --> 01:04:59,519 even Okay? 1516 01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: So am I doing in the chatter? Are you asking 1517 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,800 or here? Okay? Okay? Well yeah, could like I just 1518 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,440 figure we just did it because Dan said he was 1519 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,760 okay with that and okay, and then I would replace 1520 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,760 one one with ha. So, Mike Drucker, how are you 1521 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:15,280 feeling about? 1522 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,119 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a tough choice. That is a tough choice. Uh, 1523 01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:19,599 you know what, I'm going to stick to my gut 1524 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:21,800 and say E one m one stays on the list 1525 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,480 as my vote. But I'm okay if I'm. 1526 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 4: Overridden, right, Okay, well I'll vote for hath yes on 1527 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,800 that accomplished nothing speaking part time though. 1528 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:35,599 Speaker 6: There's a tough vote. It's a tough choice. 1529 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. I mean we could put it 1530 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,280 to chat now if we. 1531 01:05:40,239 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Want no, ye, okay, So then HAWF instead of Warehouse 1532 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,960 is not good? Is that not gonna get anywhere? 1533 01:05:47,719 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 4: I'm taking Warehouse ten times out of ten. 1534 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 6: I would take I would take HAF on that one. 1535 01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:53,519 Speaker 1: I would take off on that one too, but I. 1536 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,119 Speaker 2: Make no o, no way. I'm definitely Warehouse. 1537 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think I think haw has had 1538 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,599 its chance, and I think even though you know it tied, sure, 1539 01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:06,760 but I think really we didn't bowlt it first for 1540 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,679 a reason. Okay, So uh that I think that means 1541 01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:14,239 both Sonic and hawth go over to the right. Then. 1542 01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:18,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what we got is good. I think 1543 01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:19,800 this is pretty good. That's good. 1544 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Well then in that case, Mike Minatti, 1545 01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:25,480 why don't you go ahead and read our Mount Rushmore 1546 01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:28,800 of First Levels. 1547 01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of First Levels. The George Washington Super Mario 1548 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:39,880 Brothers one one, the Abraham Lincoln doom E. 1549 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 1: One M one that's what everyone always says. 1550 01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:44,079 Speaker 4: Yep, yep uh. 1551 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,199 Speaker 2: The Thomas Jefferson that's Super Mario sixty four BAM Battlefield, 1552 01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:56,280 and that young upstart there Teddy Roosevelt Tonyhawk's pre Skater Warehouse. 1553 01:06:56,639 --> 01:06:58,239 Speaker 1: Is that the most recent one on the list? 1554 01:06:58,519 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1555 01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: City O game on there for wow, guys. So no, 1556 01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:05,519 that's good. 1557 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 4: We're right right, We're right, We're not all right, and. 1558 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: This is just it. Go start carving the mountain all right, Well, uh, 1559 01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:17,960 that was that was good work there. We'll get that 1560 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,199 posted so people can yell at us on social media 1561 01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:24,280 for a change. You all have anything else we should 1562 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,760 bring up. I think that's a show. I think we 1563 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,119 could just get out of here again. Yes, one more time, 1564 01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:31,079 Mike Drucker. What's the name of the book? Where can 1565 01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,480 people find it? When's it coming out? 1566 01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:35,159 Speaker 6: It's called Good Game No Rematch. You can find it 1567 01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:39,079 anywhere books are sold Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Bookshop dot Org, 1568 01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:43,840 or any independent bookstore available hardcover, audio and digital. And 1569 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,039 I read the audio. If you happen to like the 1570 01:07:46,159 --> 01:07:47,320 voice that you're hearing. 1571 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on the show Mike again, I 1572 01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:51,920 am I cannot wait to read this book. 1573 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm everyone in chat accusing us being boomers. And oh okay, 1574 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,480 what post twenty ten first level would you put on here? 1575 01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 4: I bet it's my great Roadblocks? Where's versions? You're John at? 1576 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Both Minecraft and Roadblocks are more than sixteen years old. 1577 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 4: That was new reference? 1578 01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are your new references. 1579 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 6: Whe's the first one. 1580 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,279 Speaker 4: With the last of us were watched? My daughter gets shot? 1581 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:27,720 Speaker 5: Also super notes, Uh, Mike ni Dan are all cut seeds, 1582 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,760 all both so much i'm gonna hit I'm gonna think 1583 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,520 I'm gonna hit the button. 1584 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,119 Speaker 1: We'll just play the music to get us out here. Actually, 1585 01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:35,640 I got to turn the audio on for you all again. 1586 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,520 There we go, all right, Thanks for watching everybody. Until 1587 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,720 next time, I have a good one, take care of yourself, 1588 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:49,239 and goodbye.