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Welcome in my favorite guess. We 32 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:14,799 got Matt Brown on the line college football inside of 33 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,879 representing extra Points Extra Points MB dot com. 34 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: Matt, how the heck are you? 35 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: Hey? 36 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,359 Speaker 5: I'm always glad to spend some time with you here 37 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:23,000 this afternoon. 38 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Matt. 39 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:26,519 Speaker 3: What's been keeping you busy? What you been doing, what 40 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:28,799 you been working on? What can we find at Extra 41 00:01:28,879 --> 00:01:29,719 Points right now? 42 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: It has been a very very busy week, so I 43 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,359 can tell you there's a couple of things that were 44 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:37,840 working on. I got a story we're going to publish 45 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,239 tomorrow morning for free that I think will be pretty interesting. 46 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,359 Speaker 6: It's a story. 47 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,719 Speaker 5: Written by the GM of Howard Basketball and explained how 48 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,599 they were able to shift their approach from being something 49 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,280 that was more of a developmental program where they were 50 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,280 trying to recruit people to stick around for three or 51 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,879 four years. 52 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 6: Now they've realized, look. 53 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,719 Speaker 5: That doesn't happen anywhere in men's college basketball. Now we're 54 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:01,079 going to have some guys that are only going to 55 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,319 be here for four months. How do we compete in 56 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:06,359 that world where we don't have any money, which I 57 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:08,039 think I think will be interesting. And we've got a 58 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,919 story coming up in a couple of days about Oberlin football, 59 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,680 which you folks, if you're a real super nerd like me, 60 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:19,360 you might remember as the worst team in the country 61 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:22,000 this season. I spent some time with a couple of 62 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,159 their players, a couple of their coaches to better understand 63 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:29,919 why they're doing this, because they don't like they they 64 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,919 Oberlin's the school where everybody's a really good student. This 65 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,439 is not the kind of place where you're gonna lay 66 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,159 out of glory. 67 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,439 Speaker 6: I wanted to better understand, you know, what. 68 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:41,759 Speaker 5: Progress looks like or why you dedicate yourself when you're 69 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:43,159 the worst team in the country. So you'll have to 70 00:02:43,159 --> 00:02:44,800 think there will be some fun things to read here 71 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,439 at EP. The next couple of days besides just transfer portal. 72 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: Badness, the true love of the game. It still exists. 73 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,319 It's not all corrupted, Matt. 74 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,199 Speaker 5: Now, I mean there, I will tell you, over the 75 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,520 last seventy two hours, it has it has been good 76 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:03,680 for my brain. So, like, you know what, let's spend 77 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,439 a little bit of time with. 78 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:05,439 Speaker 1: Division III football. 79 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,319 Speaker 5: I mean, like, we have to talk about what's going 80 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,680 on to Washington, we have to talk about what's going 81 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,479 on in the courthouse. 82 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,159 Speaker 6: But even for. 83 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: Someone who's dedicated his career to writing about legal and 84 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,800 policy and business issues in college sports, I gotta tell you, 85 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,360 I'm not a fan of all this of this much lawyering. 86 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:25,400 And I don't I don't blame any fan either who's 87 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,639 not as excited I think to be engaged in college 88 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,479 football at the moment. 89 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the metrics are good for TV viewership, and the 90 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:37,759 metrics are good for the paydays that these players are getting. 91 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: But you know, there's a lot of people that are 92 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:41,520 are feeling like. 93 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Man, this is this is chaos, Man, this is crazy, 94 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:47,479 Like this is ruined, this is bad, this is ugly, 95 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:50,680 And you delve into one of the things that needs 96 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,639 to happen in order for it all to change, and 97 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,360 that's the collective bargaining Agreement. Now, you did write a 98 00:03:57,439 --> 00:03:59,879 piece what I like in dislike about the first draft 99 00:03:59,879 --> 00:04:02,360 of the College Football CBA. First of all, why do 100 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,759 we need this collective bargaining room in order to fix 101 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,280 college sports? And then let's delve into what you like 102 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:09,400 and dislike about the CBA. 103 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:11,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean what I would say is you 104 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,720 don't necessarily need a CBA to have more order in 105 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:20,879 college sports. There's functionally, right now ways two ways to 106 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:23,160 do it. And when I say order, I'm talking about 107 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,439 having mutually agreed upon rules that can actually be enforced, 108 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,000 about when people can leave schools, about whether their contracts 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,879 are actually enforceable like we. 110 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,759 Speaker 6: Have in professional sports. 111 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: One of those ways is what the powerful conferences in 112 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,160 the NCAA have been pushing for for the last four years, 113 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,720 which is a federal bill that would give them antitrust 114 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,439 exemption and allow them to unilaterally enforce their existing rules. 115 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: That may happen someday. 116 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 5: There were some times in twenty twenty five and I 117 00:04:52,879 --> 00:04:55,519 thought it looked very close to happening, But it hasn't, 118 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,120 and it's probably unlikely to happen in the next six 119 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,800 to nine months because Congress isn't really a thing anymore, 120 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,560 and the bipartisan lawmaking is basically done for the year, 121 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,959 heading into the next exploration cycles. 122 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: The other way you can do it is with the. 123 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: Collective bargaining agreement, which is what all of the major 124 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,480 professional sports leagues do, where labor and management sit together 125 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:22,839 and negotiate a lot of these rules. We don't have 126 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,920 that in college football or college basketball right now because 127 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:29,000 the athletes are not employees. They are not legally allowed 128 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,399 to have the union. They have not really meaningfully organized 129 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:36,360 into a union, and federal law doesn't really allow them 130 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,959 to create that. CBA Athletes dot Org is an athlete 131 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,959 organizing force that's probably the closest thing to a body 132 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,560 that represents athletes right now. 133 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 6: They don't represent nearly. 134 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:50,759 Speaker 1: Enough to hold that designation, you know, legally. 135 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: But they represent more than any other organization. And they 136 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:55,639 put together a rough draft of like. 137 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 6: This is what a CBA could look like. Let's get 138 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,959 some stuff on paper, let's talk about it. 139 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,399 Speaker 3: Okay, so they they're they're they're moving in that direction, 140 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,560 but there's I mean, how far away are we from 141 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,959 a CBA? How far or how far away are we 142 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,560 from maybe federal legislation ever being effectuated. 143 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: Do you think. 144 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,399 Speaker 5: I don't think either of these things are very close 145 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,000 right now. And and this is the dirty little secret 146 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:25,319 that I think a lot of CDA advocates, especially on 147 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,360 social media, don't really want to engage with, which is 148 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,759 that even a CBA probably requires some kind of federal 149 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,519 law change too. If you want to be able to 150 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,839 have a collective bargaining organization that represents non. 151 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 6: Employees, you need you need to change in the law. 152 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 5: If you want college athletes to be or at least 153 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,800 some of them to be designated as employees and then 154 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,600 can enter into these kind of cbas, you need some 155 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,800 changes in the law. And that isn't really happening right now. 156 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,639 Speaker 1: And it's difficult. 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,079 Speaker 5: I mean, I'll try not to be too cynical about it, 158 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,279 but it is difficult for me to see. 159 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: A world in the next year or any. 160 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:07,959 Speaker 5: Kind of federal college sports legislation passes, whether it's bipartisan 161 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,560 or unilaterally and uniformly only supported by Republicans, nobody has 162 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,800 a large enough governing coalition, and quite frankly, this isn't 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,240 an issue that is a high priority for most lawmakers, 164 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,639 and we you, and I think we would probably agree, 165 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,959 and maybe many of the listeners here do too, that 166 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,680 that's probably for the best if it's giving everything else 167 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,199 happening in the world right now, as frustrating as the 168 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:35,720 chaos and college sports might be, I think I would 169 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,800 probably want to have my lawmakers focused on foreign policy 170 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,879 or or affordability instead of the transfer portal. 171 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why don't these universities just employ all the 172 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,879 student athletes. Why can't they just w two them and 173 00:07:52,079 --> 00:07:53,360 just figure it out from there. 174 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:58,639 Speaker 5: Well, they could, but nobody wants to do that, or 175 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,519 almost nobody wants some of There's a few reasons, right Like, 176 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:04,560 let's say, in the in the great state of Utah, 177 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,720 or in many states in the Southeast, for example, they said, 178 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,000 screw it, we're going to. 179 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 6: W too our football. 180 00:08:10,839 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Basketball, and baseball players. 181 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,879 Speaker 5: Well, one, now you have to pay workers compensation, you 182 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,920 have to pay payroll taxes, you have to pay in 183 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,680 the Social Security and your expenses are now significantly higher, 184 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,959 and those obligations are higher than they were when everybody was. 185 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:26,079 Speaker 6: An independent contractor. 186 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: But then you also can't meaningfully negotiate with those guys 187 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:32,840 because if they're employees of the school, that makes them public, 188 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,679 you know, state state employees, and state law in many 189 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,720 places forbids those people from engaging in collective bargaining. The 190 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,600 parts of this country that tend to have be a 191 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,919 little bit more friendly to organize labor in the Midwest. 192 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,519 Speaker 1: And Northeast permit those things. 193 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,639 Speaker 5: In the Southeast and in you know my understanding, in 194 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Utah as well, and many other places, it's not permitted. 195 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,480 You get around that in professional sports by making by 196 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,639 having the CBA negotiations be with the league rather than 197 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:06,600 with the individual teams. I think that would make a 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,159 lot of things much easier if the Ohio states, in 199 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Indiana's in Texas of the world just said screw it, 200 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,799 we're gonna do it ourselves. But no university president wants 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,000 to do that unless. 202 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:17,799 Speaker 6: Uncle Sam literally makes them. 203 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can't just w two these employees. Why 204 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:26,039 do you need a collective barteying agreement just just a 205 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,240 W two student athlete to make them employees. 206 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: Well, you could w two student athletes right BYU could 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,639 could theoretically decide you guys are all employees, and let's 208 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:40,720 say have enough other schools decided to do that, the 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,279 NCAA wouldn't kick them out. 210 00:09:42,879 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: But there's a difference between being. 211 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: An employee and then being able to have collective bargaining, 212 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,440 and you wanted, ideally, you'd want the same kind of 213 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:54,440 collective bargaining rules from state to state. I think what 214 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,600 what would really frustrate college sports is if, Okay, your 215 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:01,799 employees and the working conditions and the rules are going 216 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,399 to be different for Utah than they are for Idaho 217 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,039 than they are for Colorado, and you're all in the 218 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,799 same league and you're competing for the same thing. Like 219 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,840 that can kind of work in some nonsports industries where 220 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:15,840 you're not competing in exactly the same way, But that 221 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,519 would make coaches and administrators freak out. They're already really 222 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,960 upset that state ANDIL rules are different from state to state, 223 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 although you know, functionally if that doesn't matter because nobody 224 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,120 enforces those. 225 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: If you want uniform rules like. 226 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 6: We have in the NFL or the NBA or. 227 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 5: Minor league baseball for that matter, you can't do it 228 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,919 with a bunch of state individual employment agreements. 229 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: Crazy times, no doubt about it, and very intrigued by 230 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,840 the CBA. And if that could actually ever come about, 231 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,360 if that could act, if that's. 232 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:48,759 Speaker 4: Going to be the way or or which way do 233 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:49,320 you lean more? 234 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,039 Speaker 3: Do you think it'll it'll end up being the kind 235 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,320 of a CBA type of deal, or do you think 236 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,679 it's just going to be like federal legislation's going to 237 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,080 step in. 238 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: Is one maybe more likely than the other? 239 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: You know this this is this isn't great sports radio 240 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,399 that I don't feel that either of these. 241 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,279 Speaker 1: Two things is inevitable. What is more likely, I. 242 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 6: Think depends on who controls the federal government. 243 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: Right if if. 244 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 5: Republicans somehow expand their House majority in their Senate majority 245 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:19,840 in the next midterms, it will be much easier to 246 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,240 pass a more restrictive federal law that doesn't empower unions 247 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,120 or organized labor, and it would be something closer to 248 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:30,840 what we had in the eighties and nineties. If there's 249 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:32,919 we get to a point where there's more unified government, 250 00:11:32,919 --> 00:11:36,679 where there's more split government, or a Democrat becomes president, 251 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,960 or somebody that is not openly hostile to organize labor 252 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,080 at any capacity than a CBA, I think could look 253 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,480 more likely. That there are federal judges and Democratic lawmakers 254 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:50,519 who have specifically proposed that as a solution. 255 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:52,919 Speaker 1: Right now, there's not really a. 256 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 6: Mechanism for that to happen. 257 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,799 Speaker 5: I mean, we might not even have a National Labor 258 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,159 Relations Board in two years. 259 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:00,519 Speaker 6: Like this, This is not really the I'm to be. 260 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: Engaged into many organizing campaigns. 261 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,519 Speaker 5: It really kind of depends on who's in charge, which 262 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,519 is which you kind of bring this full circle. 263 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: Is what I know is so frustrating is you're. 264 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 5: An ad or a coach because everyone kind of recognizes 265 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,960 even as TV ratings are strong and ticket sales are 266 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:17,679 often strong. 267 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:19,879 Speaker 1: Hey, this current system where. 268 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: I could sign a GUYE to a contract and he 269 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,840 could slip to a different school in eight hours. It's 270 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:27,759 not a good system. 271 00:12:27,799 --> 00:12:30,159 Speaker 6: It's not a sensible system. It's not an efficient system. 272 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: But the college athletic leaders don't functionally. 273 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,639 Speaker 1: Have control of it anymore. 274 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 6: They're not the ones that get to pick the rules. 275 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,279 Speaker 3: Crazy man, it's it sounds like the colleg football landscape's 276 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,200 gonna stay what it is right now. 277 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, between REV. 278 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: Share collectives with with a certain I kind of separate 279 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,080 like traditional nil as well, Like I think there's like 280 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,840 three funnels. 281 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: I look at the REV share that's coming from the school. 282 00:12:59,039 --> 00:13:01,919 Speaker 3: I look at the collectives, right which is a bunch 283 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,720 of corporations like giving a W nine salary with or 284 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:07,639 without deliverables. 285 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:08,279 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 286 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: And then you have kind of true nil where these 287 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,000 ICs are going off and like finding work wherever they 288 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,440 can and aligning with brands product services around the country 289 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:23,120 or locally. Those are their three funnels of cash, and 290 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:25,600 the players are I mean, they're making a lot of 291 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 money right now. I don't know how much demand's going 292 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,679 to make. They're the University of Washington transfer. But things 293 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,879 are pretty crazy right now as it pertains to you know, 294 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:38,600 the ic work of a student athlete. 295 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: No, I mean, on one hand, for as frustrating as 296 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,720 the instability might be to a coach and sometimes to 297 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:49,399 people like us that need to figure out who's actually 298 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,919 going to be on a roster so we could talk 299 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,600 about a game or anything, or who has to sell 300 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:55,879 a jersey. There's never been a better time to be 301 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:59,919 a top three hundred football player or a high force 302 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,399 are you know, experienced college basketball player, even in this 303 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,879 cycle with the hypothetical salary cap that's not a real 304 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:08,919 salary cap because. 305 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 6: Nobody's enforcing it. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of. 306 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: Powerfour starters, not just quarterbacks, but power four. 307 00:14:15,879 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 6: Starters who will make over a million bucks. 308 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: And if you are a. 309 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: Really good transfer quarterback or a really good transfer edge rusher, 310 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:25,960 you can make five maybe six million dollars, which is. 311 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,919 Speaker 1: A ton of money. 312 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 6: That is more of an you might make in the 313 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,279 NFL for for some of these guys. 314 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: If you are not one of those people, I think 315 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,879 you could argue in many ways, your college experience has 316 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,519 become worse, especial because it's never been easier for you 317 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,039 to get processed and and you know, sent to Utah 318 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,639 Tech or something because of something one agent did, or 319 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:52,000 the roster mant doesn't work out anywhere else. Maybe that 320 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,600 mirrors other American businesses in some ways. 321 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: But yeah, a lot of people are. 322 00:14:57,639 --> 00:14:59,799 Speaker 5: Going to make a lot of money and a lot 323 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,720 of rosters are going to look very different. 324 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 6: Sometimes that's good. Sometimes I can see why it would 325 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,080 be less good. 326 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:10,159 Speaker 3: Matt Brown, Ladies and gentlemen, Extra Points MB best way 327 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,720 to support you. 328 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: What you do, how you do it, Matt. For all 329 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:14,240 of our listeners, you. 330 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: Bet you can find all of our work at extra 331 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,440 points MB dot com. 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He's being 391 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,400 promoted from special teams coordinator defensive ends coach. 392 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,079 Speaker 4: He's coached two. 393 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: Stints at BYU from from two thousand and nine to 394 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,319 twenty fifteen and twenty twenty two to present, and it's 395 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,319 a it's a great pickup. It's a great internal higher 396 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,319 for the BYU Cougars in my opinion. Pete Ample also 397 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,000 states he takes up for Jay Hill, who left to 398 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,640 become the defensive coordinator at Michigan. Michigan, Pepina spent at Virginia. 399 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,240 He was at Virginia from two thousand and sixteen to 400 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,200 twenty twenty one. And then he's also a BA graduate 401 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,599 and a former star linebacker for the Coups. Also play 402 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,680 in the NFL for the Arizona Cardinals. So in summary, 403 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,119 you're kind of looking at this and like I said, 404 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,599 people are gonna love this or met it. Like, I 405 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,119 don't think there's anyone that hates this higher, no one 406 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,599 that dislikes this higher. They're gonna say either I love 407 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,559 the higher, you know, I like the higher, or they 408 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,519 kind of like, eh, yeah, like we were We're better 409 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:03,279 than this, right, And I think the majority of Kugarnation, 410 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,440 the donors, anyone that's interacted with Kelly Papinga is going 411 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:10,960 to say they love it. And so I think that's 412 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:16,400 where the majority stand that as we debate this topic, 413 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,000 as we celebrate this topic and I'm excited for it, 414 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:24,799 right He's got a lot of coaching experience two thousand 415 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,559 and nine to present, that's over sixteen years. 416 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:27,519 Speaker 4: He's been in the business. 417 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,319 Speaker 3: At BYU from two thousand and nine to twenty fifteen, 418 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:37,880 coach the the linebackers, his coach now defensive line, and 419 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,480 his coach special teams. Big on player development, no hands 420 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:47,279 or much about that. At Boise State prior to BYU, 421 00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:48,799 he was co special teams coordinator. 422 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: He's also edge edge coach. At Virginia, he was co 423 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,319 defensive coordinator and linebackers in edge coach from twenty eighteen 424 00:19:56,319 --> 00:19:57,359 to twenty twenty one. 425 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:00,279 Speaker 3: In two thoy sixteen twenty seventeen, he he was a 426 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,759 special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach, and then from 427 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,559 two thousand and thirteen to twenty fifteen, he was a 428 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,200 special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach at BYU. From 429 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,000 twenty eleven to twenty twelve, he was outside linebackers coach. 430 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:15,640 In twenty ten, he was defensive GM and interim out 431 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,400 outside linebackers coach. In two thousand and nine, he was 432 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,279 a defensive intern. At the time coached in a number 433 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:27,720 of bowl games and has seen some great defensive results 434 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:30,680 over the years. Twenty ten was a really good defense 435 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,240 that he was a part of. Twenty eleven, twenty twelve 436 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:39,400 all great defenses at BYU player development wise, recruited, signed, developed, 437 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,039 coached up Kyle van Noy and Fred Warner. Also of 438 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:46,119 notes Choni Taki Taki, Elani fua in Spencer Hadley. Those 439 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,480 are some of the best linebackers in BA football history. 440 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:50,200 You know, Kyle van Noy and Fred Warner are two 441 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,880 of the best defensive players in BYU football history and 442 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,039 maybe the best defensive players in BYU football history. So 443 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,680 I think this is a home run internal elevation for 444 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:10,160 BYU football. I think over the last four years now, 445 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,680 since Kelly Papinka came back to BYU, he's gained the 446 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,960 trust of Kalani Satake, the head coach, the culture builder 447 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,759 of BYU football. The last thing that I will note 448 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:29,480 is over the last three years, per ESPN's SP plus 449 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:36,759 efficiency productivity metric, BYU's special teams has outperformed every other 450 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,519 unit on average. Over the last three years, BYU's the 451 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:44,039 twentieth ranked Okay special teams. 452 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: Unit under Kelly Papina. 453 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,599 Speaker 3: The defense and the offense are actually tied at around 454 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,559 forty third. That's where their SP plus ranking is now. 455 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:57,720 The defense has improved over the last two they were 456 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:00,119 twenty three to twenty one respectively. With the year prior 457 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,440 they were like ninetieth in twenty twenty three. So, like 458 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,400 I said, your every year the special teams unit has 459 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,759 been the best unit. 460 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:13,279 Speaker 4: For BYU football. Obviously a product of the Great State 461 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:15,599 of Wyoming, he served as a mission for the Church 462 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:19,160 of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints in Ecuador. He's 463 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,720 got a wonderful wife and three daughters. Shout out to 464 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:25,440 Rebecca and the kiddos. Comes from a BA football family. 465 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: Father Dennis and brother Brady both played ball for Brigham. 466 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:32,839 There you have it, Ronald, the three man weaver, Your thoughts, 467 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,240 your commentary, your follow up here, what do you make 468 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:36,240 of a higher look? 469 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: It's the best opportunity. 470 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 7: I mean, this is why when you you kind of 471 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 could suspect this been when Gennaro who was headed to 472 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:46,200 Michigan at okay, it's probably K Pop's gonna get promoted 473 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,519 and look a lot of people. Yeah, Gennaro was a 474 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,720 guy on the list. I don't I would have him 475 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:52,559 on the list. I don't think it's bad too. But 476 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:54,240 you also have to think about when the guy's been, 477 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:57,119 as you already stated, a co defensive coordinator, he's been 478 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,440 a specialist teams coordinator. That's gonna be hard to you know, 479 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,960 get in front of that, right, he's earned destripes. 480 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,279 Speaker 2: Y Kelly's cut his teeth already. 481 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 6: Ben. 482 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 7: When you have one of the best special teams unit 483 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,720 in college football the last two years, Look, you put 484 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,440 one of the best punters in the NFL. Not just that, 485 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,839 you also take into account that he's gonna put a 486 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,640 kicker and named Will Farren also into the NFL. 487 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: Both of those guys special teamers. 488 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 7: Parker Kingston I think has an opportunity as well as 489 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119 the special teams guy and a wide receiver as well 490 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,079 in Aaron Roddicks often. So those are three names and 491 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,240 those guys playing at the next level that matters, that 492 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,519 has to be taken into account. So this is the 493 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:35,799 next guy up, Ben, And the biggest thing I look 494 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:38,359 at this higher that I love is you're. 495 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,319 Speaker 2: Able to keep the recruiting. You're able to keep the recruiting. 496 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 7: The foundation inside BYU that's the biggest thing for local 497 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:46,400 kids and people to stay. So you had to think, 498 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,839 like I mentioned yesterday on the show, when you saw 499 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,599 Folo te South Tula coming back right away, when you 500 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,640 saw Isaiah Glaska announcent and the rest of these guys 501 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,079 on the defense, you had to get the feeling at okay, 502 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,839 probably an internal higher I know there was some external 503 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,200 care who could have done great, you know if that 504 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:05,079 were the case. But Kline did the right thing. Promoted 505 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,240 Kelly Papinka, who's already been there. They speak the same language. 506 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,480 This would be good for Kate Pop and you heard 507 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,599 it from you know, his brother Brady, and I get 508 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:14,759 that sense like k Pop is gonna call you out. 509 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,759 I go back to a media availability and you'll recall 510 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,880 it when Klanie said it was actually Kelly Papinka who 511 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,680 showed clips in film. And it wasn't anything football related 512 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,519 that we weren't celebrating. We weren't get excited on the sidelines, 513 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,559 we weren't getting hyped. It was that West Virginia game 514 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,920 when Bear threw over three hundred yards for the first time, 515 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,559 and I think Chason Parker both went over one hundred 516 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,200 yards and nobody celebrating, he called out the team and 517 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,759 got on him. 518 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: So that gives you vibes of. 519 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 7: Future coordinator, future head coach. Right, So I love the 520 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,119 fact that this hire got is happening. It'll just be finalized. 521 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,720 Shout out to Pete on breaking the news. We and 522 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,079 the media and fans have been waiting to hear this, 523 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,759 so now Ben that this has been put out there. 524 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,039 Once they get all the behind the scenes stuff, I 525 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,039 think now you'll start to see the commitments of the 526 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,160 Crystal ball people because b YU is the only big 527 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,039 DALs school that doesn't have any transfers committee yet you'll 528 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:06,160 start to see that thing now with this news and 529 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,920 hopefully been now the cornerbacks coaching safeties as well. After 530 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,079 that so started with Kelly, shout out to him, congrats, 531 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920 well deserved, looking forward to seeing what he does as 532 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000 we cover this BAU program the rest of the way. 533 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,039 Speaker 3: Excited about it. Congratulations to and his family. Gets a 534 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,519 great opportunity to lead a team. And you bring up 535 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,920 a really good point. Look at the retention on the 536 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,079 defensive side of the ball. 537 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,319 Speaker 4: That's all you got. I mean, look that tells you 538 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:31,119 everything you need to know. 539 00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:34,799 Speaker 3: The guy that's closest in my opinion, to personality, skill 540 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,359 set competency in his respective position. 541 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:38,599 Speaker 4: Right. 542 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,519 Speaker 3: Obviously, Jay's been coaching the safeties. Kelly PingER has been 543 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,079 been coaching the edge guys, the outside linebackers. If you 544 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,759 want a j. 545 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:50,279 Speaker 4: Hill replica of how he recruits, how he develops, and 546 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:51,359 and and and. 547 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,559 Speaker 3: An employee of a great scheme and a great coach 548 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,599 of a great scheme, it's Kelly pepingham Man. 549 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 4: He's a holistic human. He's got a robust skill set 550 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,240 that and he's whole minded. So I love it. I 551 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:03,839 love it. I think it's great. Let's see how it 552 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,240 plays out. This defense can be under Kelly's From pinkon, 553 00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:12,359 we got more breaking news. What do you got for? 554 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:14,000 Repondited the three man people? 555 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,839 Speaker 7: I hate to change the subject, Ben, we can stay. 556 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,160 We need to keep it on football. But basketball, we 557 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,799 had a feeling that Kaba Keta would be uh. 558 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: He was doubtful aka almost out. 559 00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 560 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 7: He is out now for the game against what is 561 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,039 it Arizona State tonight, But now Conard Davis Junior a 562 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,480 game time decision, so b YU basketball could be down 563 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,720 potentially two starters. The depth will be tested now with 564 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,799 Canard out. You wonder if Alex d. Kostis she's gonna 565 00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,440 get that start bend. So this is gonna be interesting 566 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:45,839 because if if Canard doesn't go, you have that role 567 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720 with Kaba, they can put Beata beat you in and 568 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,880 they could go Hadiem. But with no Canard, Davis Junior, 569 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,559 that's tough because that's your best defender in my opinion, 570 00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:57,359 on the guard line ages of forward, even though he 571 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,839 plays the point forward. With no Canard, I think that 572 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,920 it should depth a little bit. 573 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: Ben Well, I feel, uh, you know, I feel like 574 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,640 I don't know if there's been like a little bit 575 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,200 of a sickness going around. 576 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean we've seen a. 577 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: Lot of yeah, little bits lose the coronas the you know, 578 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,039 who knows what's you know, we got the neuro virus 579 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,640 roaming around making everyone throw up anyway, Uh Kevi it 580 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:20,200 was doubtful. 581 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:21,599 Speaker 4: Jean McGregor was doubtful. 582 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: Uh yesterday we found out, you know, Bertie Cinslowski, kJ 583 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:29,359 Perry Day Pickens and Dawson Baker were out. It's it's 584 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,400 not good that Keble's out, and it's not good that 585 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,599 Kennard Davis, who's sitting there in hovering and we don't 586 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,079 know if he's gonna play or not. But this team 587 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 is built for times like this, right, Don't we have 588 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,880 enough depth even though we. 589 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,839 Speaker 4: Have a lot of injuries and a lot of sickness? 590 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,839 What do you make of it? Ronald the three man Weaver? 591 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: Don't we have the depth in order to win and 592 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,079 compete even when we got a lot of our star 593 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:51,920 players out. 594 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: One hundred BYU has the depth? 595 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 7: Hunt everybody they have on that roster, as Kevin Young 596 00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,240 sail when they played in that was constant game and 597 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,759 they beat him by by thirty pretty much is technically 598 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,279 twenty eight, but beat him by thirty. They everybody they 599 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,799 brought there. He felt was for a reason that you 600 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,200 saw that showcase. Look, this might be a game and 601 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,079 a guy that's kind of been forgotten about. I'm gonna 602 00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:15,079 throw out there, maybe Dominique Diamande is able to get some. 603 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:16,039 Speaker 2: Time and get in the game. 604 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: You know, that's a that's another guy that's kind of 605 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,000 been forgott about. I know Kevin Junggan mentioned him in 606 00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,680 the media availability, but you have to wonder what canard 607 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720 out and Dominique, who's approved defender Alexi might lack that 608 00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:28,200 on the defensive side, but the offensive siety is talented. 609 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: Do you throw Dominique? 610 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 7: Remember, Kevin Young has mentioned what been the last couple 611 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,759 of days, makes us long. 612 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: Makes us big, We're big, We're big, like he just 613 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:35,960 kept saying that. 614 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 7: So Dominique is a six to nine wing player that's 615 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,279 gonna clog up the perimeters. So you have to wonder 616 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,079 what Canard out is. Does Dominique get his first start 617 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,400 of how much action does he see tonight? So I'm 618 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,799 interested to see this. You know, look, everybody tryna say Ron, 619 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:51,880 this is not good. No, while this is great. Actually 620 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,039 it's good for these guys who need to be who 621 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:56,759 need to play, who need to get experienced. You need 622 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,079 to be tested in conference right now, at the start 623 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,480 of it, because everybody on this roster needs to have 624 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640 built experience by the time March comes around when they 625 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,759 get to the tournament bin. You don't want to waste time. 626 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:08,720 Oh we could have done it. No, no, this is 627 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,799 the perfect time. So at this point, I know this 628 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:13,519 is going to sound terrible because if it can already 629 00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,839 is even somewhat of a healthy enough to play you 630 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,680 play them, but don't play them, let them let them, 631 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,519 let them rest, and let the guys on the bench 632 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,680 take a toll and let them learn. If these guys 633 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,200 are going to be on the roster next your ben. 634 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:25,799 This is great development for them, I feel like with 635 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,839 the coaching staff, and a great opportunity for these guys 636 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,079 to learn what they can do on tape and develop 637 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,039 from it. I mean, isn't that how Flucina got better 638 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400 was playing right away when guys went down due to 639 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,440 injury unexpectedly. 640 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: So that's the best way. So I'm all for it. Honestly. 641 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,920 I think back to rugby. 642 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 7: I played, somebody went down, came in, got some experience, 643 00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,720 wasn't maybe great at first, but you learn. You learn 644 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,319 by trial and error, and the trial of this BAU 645 00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,720 basketball team is everyone needs experience, and look, this is great. 646 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:52,119 Speaker 2: So somebody has to step up tonight. 647 00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:55,839 Speaker 4: Step up, show up, show out. 648 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,759 Speaker 3: A couple of things here that have come across the wire, 649 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:05,359 and congratulations Philisi Dos and aj To Bonsa has continued 650 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,799 to just chock up these awards mid season awards. De 651 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200 Bonsa was named to the Wooden Award mid Season Top 652 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,039 twenty five Watchless. He is one of the top twenty 653 00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,720 five players in the country. The six foint nine point 654 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,960 forward enters Wednesday's Big twelve matchup against Arizona State, ranked 655 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,079 second in the nation and scoring at twenty three point 656 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,240 one points per game, and having scored in double figures 657 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,720 in all fourteen games of his collegiate career, the fourth 658 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,720 from his shoo three to begin at career in Big 659 00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:38,680 twelve history. He is shooting fifty eight point six percent 660 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,319 from the field. We got more breaking dudes, brought to 661 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:42,680 you by all of our sponsors. 662 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: Guys, we haint do our show without our sponsors. 663 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: We support all of our sponsors, whether Folto Pros, Royal, Army, Tenter, 664 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,039 PLOSBM Men's Wear, Big O Tires, Bandonwealth, Complete circ and 665 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,799 Elected Reaching cleaning Service and of course Premo Golf, Handy Andy, 666 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,319 Advanced Windows, Game Bay, Men's Health, utaih Advocates, RG six tiers, 667 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,559 BMW Pleasant Grove, It miners me and find foods. 668 00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:01,519 Speaker 4: What do you got from me, Ronnie? 669 00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: It's official. 670 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,079 Speaker 7: We can now move on ben from it and continue 671 00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,279 to talk about it. Sedd and Stone almost the entire 672 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:09,079 defensive staff. 673 00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: Here we go. 674 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,759 Speaker 7: Head coach Kline Sataki announces Kelly Papinge is defensive coordinator 675 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,279 PERBYU Cougars dot Com. The press release Puha as associate 676 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,079 head coach and do Mario Warren as defensive pass game 677 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:25,720 coordinator in cornerbacks coach. He says, I'm pleased to announce 678 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920 the promotions of the names I just mentioned. 679 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: Sataki said. 680 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 7: We have a lot of quality coaches in our program 681 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240 and I'm proud their collaboration effort. Collaborative efforts over the 682 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 past years and the momentum we have been building as 683 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,039 a staff from competent Kelly and will be a great 684 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,039 benefit to our players in these new roles as we 685 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,200 continue to find ways to help our players improve and 686 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920 elevate the success a BA football. I'm excited to add 687 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,599 to Mario to our defensive staff. He has experienced both 688 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,079 as a head coach and a defensive coordinator, and is 689 00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,079 known for his expertise in the secondary, developing young talent 690 00:31:59,319 --> 00:31:59,960 and being. 691 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,079 Speaker 2: A great recruiter. There you go, Bennett's official now. 692 00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Papinga former Viewery linebacker. Obviously he's 693 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,799 he's got seventeen years now, going through seventeen year of coaching, 694 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,480 and you have to wonder, Okay, well, what's the status 695 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,759 with Justin Enna. Is he going to be a part 696 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,200 of his staff? You know, obviously Generals moved on. Justin 697 00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,599 Ena had defensive coordinating experience as well. He was up 698 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:28,359 in the booth. What happens with Justin Enna going forward? 699 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,240 And who's going to be the safety's coach right what's 700 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,799 going on with that as well? So you know, there's 701 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,720 a couple of candidates out there that I would love 702 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:39,000 to see back at BYU. 703 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,759 Speaker 4: I think Gavin vot would be great, and also Tanner Jacobson. 704 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: Both of those guys are at Weaver State right now 705 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:50,960 under coach care staff. So I think Tanner's the assistant 706 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,000 head coach and maybe special teams coordinator. I don't know 707 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,119 what position he's coaching, and then Gavin is the DC currently. 708 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,079 Speaker 4: Either one of those shoot, bring them ball. 709 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,799 Speaker 3: Both of them can be great football coaches at BYU. 710 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,359 And both of them have coached under or you know 711 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,319 they've they've they've been coached by Kalani Stake. So that's 712 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,079 the latest here. We got some breaking news new coaching 713 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,759 hires as Ronald the three man we were pointed out 714 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:24,599 BYU head coach Kalani Stake named Kellipapinga as defensive coordinator, 715 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,559 Sione Poujas associate head coach, and Tomorio Warren as defensive 716 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:32,720 pass game coordinator and cornerbacks coach. And what do you 717 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,240 make of this Syoni Pouha move Now Sione was brought in. 718 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Remember Shone was coaching at Utah for a while and after. 719 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: His historic. 720 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: I think college in a great NFL career, got into 721 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:56,119 coaching at Utah. Is a student assistant from twenty fifteen 722 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,240 to twenty sixteen. Became Utah's director of player develop in 723 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,799 twenty seventeen, was the Navy defensive tackles coach in twenty 724 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:10,000 eighteen under coach Kenny Nea Multalolo. In twenty eighteen twenty 725 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,840 twenty one, he became the Utah University of Utah defensive 726 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,079 tackles coach, and then in two thousand and twenty two 727 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,880 to present UH he became the defensive tackles coach at 728 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:24,639 BYU give me your reaction. I know you've interviewed Shelley 729 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,360 on a number of occasions. How do you break down 730 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,519 that particular higher oh. 731 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 7: Man, Ben, whatever I start, I mean, we don't have 732 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,159 much time much I can get it more into it, 733 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,480 but that interview I normally you know, go five to 734 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:37,400 ten minutes at the max. But Ben that when eighteen 735 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,159 and everybody you know appreciate. The fans loved it because 736 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,400 he just was able to connect to the players. He 737 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,599 literally when I was talking to him and me, it 738 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,960 just reminded me of he was like a father figured 739 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,719 to me for the eighteen minutes after we got outside 740 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,840 of like football, the relationship to connection based at christ 741 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,400 Center atmosphere, it felt like I was talking to like 742 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239 one of Koalani's like brothers, you know, like honestly, that's 743 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,639 what it felt. 744 00:34:57,639 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: It gave me that type of vibe so perfect for 745 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,320 the culture. 746 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 7: A fig great recruiter, cares about young men, fits into 747 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,159 this program extremely well. So it's interesting, you know, seeing 748 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,519 him promoted the associate head coach, So happy for him. 749 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,039 Congrats to him, and I think he'll, you know, be 750 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:14,920 able to lead that program. 751 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: It's the guy that's been played in the NFL. 752 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,559 Speaker 7: Look, he has a lot of experience and was also 753 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,880 one of the coaches at Michigan Kyle Whittingham. So that's 754 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,880 a great promotion as well. 755 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,159 Speaker 2: Happy for us. He on in his family. 756 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,559 Speaker 4: Congratulations. 757 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: Tocioti Pooja defensive tackles coach and assant head coach. 758 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: Now. 759 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,159 Speaker 3: Also congratulations to Mario Warren. I did a little breakdown 760 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:39,960 of his coaching experience. You can check that out at 761 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,519 Fridle Benjamin on X. Guys, that's our show. We're sticking 762 00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:48,440 to a download the podcast iTunes, Spreaker, Google Playing Music, iHeartRadio, Spotify, 763 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,800 give us a rating, give us a review. We appreciate 764 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,440 it when you do. You can also support all of 765 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,039 our sponsors. 766 00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:56,679 Speaker 4: Guys. We can't do our show without our sponsors. 767 00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: So when you hear their ads, especially as we're doing 768 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,400 these live and door Smith's, give an opportunit to earn 769 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,679 your business. You always get VIP products, VIP service, VIP 770 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,760 discounts whenever you whenever you utilize any one of our 771 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,639 our sponsors products or services. Okay, so no have sends 772 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,280 a bunch about that. Let them take care of you today. 773 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,760 Shout out to Ronald the three Man Weaver Brett always 774 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,400 bring in the hammer. We had, Matt Brown, Drake c Toll, 775 00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:25,519 Tim Healy, the voice of the Airs of the State 776 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,639 Sun Devils. And then also shout out to Brandon Day 777 00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,440 also the Paul Finebaum for giving us a nice Cougar byte. 778 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 4: Little breathing between the line segment. 779 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:39,159 Speaker 3: But guys, have a great night, be good, enjoy the 780 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,679 BYU basketball game tonight. I'm gonna hand the mic over 781 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,800 to Ronald the three Man Weaver as he prep chef 782 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,519 for this BYU men's basketball game versus a su at 783 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,199 the Marriott Center. From all of us here at ESPN 784 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,599 the Fan, we was here. A good night, have a 785 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:54,360 safe night. You've been listening to Cougar Sports