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Speaker 4: Matt, how the heck are you?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 5: I'm always glad to spend some time with you here
this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Matt.
Speaker 3: What's been keeping you busy? What you been doing, what
you been working on? What can we find at Extra
Points right now?
Speaker 5: It has been a very very busy week, so I
can tell you there's a couple of things that were
working on. I got a story we're going to publish
tomorrow morning for free that I think will be pretty interesting.
Speaker 6: It's a story.
Speaker 5: Written by the GM of Howard Basketball and explained how
they were able to shift their approach from being something
that was more of a developmental program where they were
trying to recruit people to stick around for three or
four years.
Speaker 6: Now they've realized, look.
Speaker 5: That doesn't happen anywhere in men's college basketball. Now we're
going to have some guys that are only going to
be here for four months. How do we compete in
that world where we don't have any money, which I
think I think will be interesting. And we've got a
story coming up in a couple of days about Oberlin football,
which you folks, if you're a real super nerd like me,
you might remember as the worst team in the country
this season. I spent some time with a couple of
their players, a couple of their coaches to better understand
why they're doing this, because they don't like they they
Oberlin's the school where everybody's a really good student. This
is not the kind of place where you're gonna lay
out of glory.
Speaker 6: I wanted to better understand, you know, what.
Speaker 5: Progress looks like or why you dedicate yourself when you're
the worst team in the country. So you'll have to
think there will be some fun things to read here
at EP. The next couple of days besides just transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Badness, the true love of the game. It still exists.
It's not all corrupted, Matt.
Speaker 5: Now, I mean there, I will tell you, over the
last seventy two hours, it has it has been good
for my brain. So, like, you know what, let's spend
a little bit of time with.
Speaker 1: Division III football.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, we have to talk about what's going
on to Washington, we have to talk about what's going
on in the courthouse.
Speaker 6: But even for.
Speaker 5: Someone who's dedicated his career to writing about legal and
policy and business issues in college sports, I gotta tell you,
I'm not a fan of all this of this much lawyering.
And I don't I don't blame any fan either who's
not as excited I think to be engaged in college
football at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the metrics are good for TV viewership, and the
metrics are good for the paydays that these players are getting.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's a lot of people that are
are feeling like.
Speaker 3: Man, this is this is chaos, Man, this is crazy,
Like this is ruined, this is bad, this is ugly,
And you delve into one of the things that needs
to happen in order for it all to change, and
that's the collective bargaining Agreement. Now, you did write a
piece what I like in dislike about the first draft
of the College Football CBA. First of all, why do
we need this collective bargaining room in order to fix
college sports? And then let's delve into what you like
and dislike about the CBA.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean what I would say is you
don't necessarily need a CBA to have more order in
college sports. There's functionally, right now ways two ways to
do it. And when I say order, I'm talking about
having mutually agreed upon rules that can actually be enforced,
about when people can leave schools, about whether their contracts
are actually enforceable like we.
Speaker 6: Have in professional sports.
Speaker 5: One of those ways is what the powerful conferences in
the NCAA have been pushing for for the last four years,
which is a federal bill that would give them antitrust
exemption and allow them to unilaterally enforce their existing rules.
Speaker 1: That may happen someday.
Speaker 5: There were some times in twenty twenty five and I
thought it looked very close to happening, But it hasn't,
and it's probably unlikely to happen in the next six
to nine months because Congress isn't really a thing anymore,
and the bipartisan lawmaking is basically done for the year,
heading into the next exploration cycles.
Speaker 1: The other way you can do it is with the.
Speaker 5: Collective bargaining agreement, which is what all of the major
professional sports leagues do, where labor and management sit together
and negotiate a lot of these rules. We don't have
that in college football or college basketball right now because
the athletes are not employees. They are not legally allowed
to have the union. They have not really meaningfully organized
into a union, and federal law doesn't really allow them
to create that. CBA Athletes dot Org is an athlete
organizing force that's probably the closest thing to a body
that represents athletes right now.
Speaker 6: They don't represent nearly.
Speaker 1: Enough to hold that designation, you know, legally.
Speaker 5: But they represent more than any other organization. And they
put together a rough draft of like.
Speaker 6: This is what a CBA could look like. Let's get
some stuff on paper, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they they're they're they're moving in that direction,
but there's I mean, how far away are we from
a CBA? How far or how far away are we
from maybe federal legislation ever being effectuated.
Speaker 4: Do you think.
Speaker 5: I don't think either of these things are very close
right now. And and this is the dirty little secret
that I think a lot of CDA advocates, especially on
social media, don't really want to engage with, which is
that even a CBA probably requires some kind of federal
law change too. If you want to be able to
have a collective bargaining organization that represents non.
Speaker 6: Employees, you need you need to change in the law.
Speaker 5: If you want college athletes to be or at least
some of them to be designated as employees and then
can enter into these kind of cbas, you need some
changes in the law. And that isn't really happening right now.
Speaker 1: And it's difficult.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll try not to be too cynical about it,
but it is difficult for me to see.
Speaker 1: A world in the next year or any.
Speaker 5: Kind of federal college sports legislation passes, whether it's bipartisan
or unilaterally and uniformly only supported by Republicans, nobody has
a large enough governing coalition, and quite frankly, this isn't
an issue that is a high priority for most lawmakers,
and we you, and I think we would probably agree,
and maybe many of the listeners here do too, that
that's probably for the best if it's giving everything else
happening in the world right now, as frustrating as the
chaos and college sports might be, I think I would
probably want to have my lawmakers focused on foreign policy
or or affordability instead of the transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why don't these universities just employ all the
student athletes. Why can't they just w two them and
just figure it out from there.
Speaker 5: Well, they could, but nobody wants to do that, or
almost nobody wants some of There's a few reasons, right Like,
let's say, in the in the great state of Utah,
or in many states in the Southeast, for example, they said,
screw it, we're going to.
Speaker 6: W too our football.
Speaker 1: Basketball, and baseball players.
Speaker 5: Well, one, now you have to pay workers compensation, you
have to pay payroll taxes, you have to pay in
the Social Security and your expenses are now significantly higher,
and those obligations are higher than they were when everybody was.
Speaker 6: An independent contractor.
Speaker 5: But then you also can't meaningfully negotiate with those guys
because if they're employees of the school, that makes them public,
you know, state state employees, and state law in many
places forbids those people from engaging in collective bargaining. The
parts of this country that tend to have be a
little bit more friendly to organize labor in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: And Northeast permit those things.
Speaker 5: In the Southeast and in you know my understanding, in
Utah as well, and many other places, it's not permitted.
You get around that in professional sports by making by
having the CBA negotiations be with the league rather than
with the individual teams. I think that would make a
lot of things much easier if the Ohio states, in
Indiana's in Texas of the world just said screw it,
we're gonna do it ourselves. But no university president wants
to do that unless.
Speaker 6: Uncle Sam literally makes them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can't just w two these employees. Why
do you need a collective barteying agreement just just a
W two student athlete to make them employees.
Speaker 5: Well, you could w two student athletes right BYU could
could theoretically decide you guys are all employees, and let's
say have enough other schools decided to do that, the
NCAA wouldn't kick them out.
Speaker 1: But there's a difference between being.
Speaker 5: An employee and then being able to have collective bargaining,
and you wanted, ideally, you'd want the same kind of
collective bargaining rules from state to state. I think what
what would really frustrate college sports is if, Okay, your
employees and the working conditions and the rules are going
to be different for Utah than they are for Idaho
than they are for Colorado, and you're all in the
same league and you're competing for the same thing. Like
that can kind of work in some nonsports industries where
you're not competing in exactly the same way, But that
would make coaches and administrators freak out. They're already really
upset that state ANDIL rules are different from state to state,
although you know, functionally if that doesn't matter because nobody
enforces those.
Speaker 1: If you want uniform rules like.
Speaker 6: We have in the NFL or the NBA or.
Speaker 5: Minor league baseball for that matter, you can't do it
with a bunch of state individual employment agreements.
Speaker 3: Crazy times, no doubt about it, and very intrigued by
the CBA. And if that could actually ever come about,
if that could act, if that's.
Speaker 4: Going to be the way or or which way do
you lean more?
Speaker 3: Do you think it'll it'll end up being the kind
of a CBA type of deal, or do you think
it's just going to be like federal legislation's going to
step in.
Speaker 4: Is one maybe more likely than the other?
Speaker 5: You know this this is this isn't great sports radio
that I don't feel that either of these.
Speaker 1: Two things is inevitable. What is more likely, I.
Speaker 6: Think depends on who controls the federal government.
Speaker 1: Right if if.
Speaker 5: Republicans somehow expand their House majority in their Senate majority
in the next midterms, it will be much easier to
pass a more restrictive federal law that doesn't empower unions
or organized labor, and it would be something closer to
what we had in the eighties and nineties. If there's
we get to a point where there's more unified government,
where there's more split government, or a Democrat becomes president,
or somebody that is not openly hostile to organize labor
at any capacity than a CBA, I think could look
more likely. That there are federal judges and Democratic lawmakers
who have specifically proposed that as a solution.
Speaker 1: Right now, there's not really a.
Speaker 6: Mechanism for that to happen.
Speaker 5: I mean, we might not even have a National Labor
Relations Board in two years.
Speaker 6: Like this, This is not really the I'm to be.
Speaker 1: Engaged into many organizing campaigns.
Speaker 5: It really kind of depends on who's in charge, which
is which you kind of bring this full circle.
Speaker 6: Is what I know is so frustrating is you're.
Speaker 5: An ad or a coach because everyone kind of recognizes
even as TV ratings are strong and ticket sales are
often strong.
Speaker 1: Hey, this current system where.
Speaker 5: I could sign a GUYE to a contract and he
could slip to a different school in eight hours. It's
not a good system.
Speaker 6: It's not a sensible system. It's not an efficient system.
Speaker 5: But the college athletic leaders don't functionally.
Speaker 1: Have control of it anymore.
Speaker 6: They're not the ones that get to pick the rules.
Speaker 3: Crazy man, it's it sounds like the colleg football landscape's
gonna stay what it is right now.
Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, between REV.
Speaker 3: Share collectives with with a certain I kind of separate
like traditional nil as well, Like I think there's like
three funnels.
Speaker 4: I look at the REV share that's coming from the school.
Speaker 3: I look at the collectives, right which is a bunch
of corporations like giving a W nine salary with or
without deliverables.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then you have kind of true nil where these
ICs are going off and like finding work wherever they
can and aligning with brands product services around the country
or locally. Those are their three funnels of cash, and
the players are I mean, they're making a lot of
money right now. I don't know how much demand's going
to make. They're the University of Washington transfer. But things
are pretty crazy right now as it pertains to you know,
the ic work of a student athlete.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, on one hand, for as frustrating as
the instability might be to a coach and sometimes to
people like us that need to figure out who's actually
going to be on a roster so we could talk
about a game or anything, or who has to sell
a jersey. There's never been a better time to be
a top three hundred football player or a high force
are you know, experienced college basketball player, even in this
cycle with the hypothetical salary cap that's not a real
salary cap because.
Speaker 6: Nobody's enforcing it. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of.
Speaker 5: Powerfour starters, not just quarterbacks, but power four.
Speaker 6: Starters who will make over a million bucks.
Speaker 1: And if you are a.
Speaker 5: Really good transfer quarterback or a really good transfer edge rusher,
you can make five maybe six million dollars, which is.
Speaker 1: A ton of money.
Speaker 6: That is more of an you might make in the
NFL for for some of these guys.
Speaker 5: If you are not one of those people, I think
you could argue in many ways, your college experience has
become worse, especial because it's never been easier for you
to get processed and and you know, sent to Utah
Tech or something because of something one agent did, or
the roster mant doesn't work out anywhere else. Maybe that
mirrors other American businesses in some ways.
Speaker 6: But yeah, a lot of people are.
Speaker 5: Going to make a lot of money and a lot
of rosters are going to look very different.
Speaker 6: Sometimes that's good. Sometimes I can see why it would
be less good.
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not too long ago. As Pete Tammel of ESPN drop
this nugget. BYU's working to finalize a deal to promote
Kelly vipinga two defensive coordinator and play caller. He's being
promoted from special teams coordinator defensive ends coach.
Speaker 4: He's coached two.
Speaker 3: Stints at BYU from from two thousand and nine to
twenty fifteen and twenty twenty two to present, and it's
a it's a great pickup. It's a great internal higher
for the BYU Cougars in my opinion. Pete Ample also
states he takes up for Jay Hill, who left to
become the defensive coordinator at Michigan. Michigan, Pepina spent at Virginia.
He was at Virginia from two thousand and sixteen to
twenty twenty one. And then he's also a BA graduate
and a former star linebacker for the Coups. Also play
in the NFL for the Arizona Cardinals. So in summary,
you're kind of looking at this and like I said,
people are gonna love this or met it. Like, I
don't think there's anyone that hates this higher, no one
that dislikes this higher. They're gonna say either I love
the higher, you know, I like the higher, or they
kind of like, eh, yeah, like we were We're better
than this, right, And I think the majority of Kugarnation,
the donors, anyone that's interacted with Kelly Papinga is going
to say they love it. And so I think that's
where the majority stand that as we debate this topic,
as we celebrate this topic and I'm excited for it,
right He's got a lot of coaching experience two thousand
and nine to present, that's over sixteen years.
Speaker 4: He's been in the business.
Speaker 3: At BYU from two thousand and nine to twenty fifteen,
coach the the linebackers, his coach now defensive line, and
his coach special teams. Big on player development, no hands
or much about that. At Boise State prior to BYU,
he was co special teams coordinator.
Speaker 4: He's also edge edge coach. At Virginia, he was co
defensive coordinator and linebackers in edge coach from twenty eighteen
to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: In two thoy sixteen twenty seventeen, he he was a
special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach, and then from
two thousand and thirteen to twenty fifteen, he was a
special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach at BYU. From
twenty eleven to twenty twelve, he was outside linebackers coach.
In twenty ten, he was defensive GM and interim out
outside linebackers coach. In two thousand and nine, he was
a defensive intern. At the time coached in a number
of bowl games and has seen some great defensive results
over the years. Twenty ten was a really good defense
that he was a part of. Twenty eleven, twenty twelve
all great defenses at BYU player development wise, recruited, signed, developed,
coached up Kyle van Noy and Fred Warner. Also of
notes Choni Taki Taki, Elani fua in Spencer Hadley. Those
are some of the best linebackers in BA football history.
You know, Kyle van Noy and Fred Warner are two
of the best defensive players in BYU football history and
maybe the best defensive players in BYU football history. So
I think this is a home run internal elevation for
BYU football. I think over the last four years now,
since Kelly Papinka came back to BYU, he's gained the
trust of Kalani Satake, the head coach, the culture builder
of BYU football. The last thing that I will note
is over the last three years, per ESPN's SP plus
efficiency productivity metric, BYU's special teams has outperformed every other
unit on average. Over the last three years, BYU's the
twentieth ranked Okay special teams.
Speaker 4: Unit under Kelly Papina.
Speaker 3: The defense and the offense are actually tied at around
forty third. That's where their SP plus ranking is now.
The defense has improved over the last two they were
twenty three to twenty one respectively. With the year prior
they were like ninetieth in twenty twenty three. So, like
I said, your every year the special teams unit has
been the best unit.
Speaker 4: For BYU football. Obviously a product of the Great State
of Wyoming, he served as a mission for the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints in Ecuador. He's
got a wonderful wife and three daughters. Shout out to
Rebecca and the kiddos. Comes from a BA football family.
Speaker 3: Father Dennis and brother Brady both played ball for Brigham.
There you have it, Ronald, the three man weaver, Your thoughts,
your commentary, your follow up here, what do you make
of a higher look?
Speaker 2: It's the best opportunity.
Speaker 7: I mean, this is why when you you kind of
could suspect this been when Gennaro who was headed to
Michigan at okay, it's probably K Pop's gonna get promoted
and look a lot of people. Yeah, Gennaro was a
guy on the list. I don't I would have him
on the list. I don't think it's bad too. But
you also have to think about when the guy's been,
as you already stated, a co defensive coordinator, he's been
a specialist teams coordinator. That's gonna be hard to you know,
get in front of that, right, he's earned destripes.
Speaker 2: Y Kelly's cut his teeth already.
Speaker 6: Ben.
Speaker 7: When you have one of the best special teams unit
in college football the last two years, Look, you put
one of the best punters in the NFL. Not just that,
you also take into account that he's gonna put a
kicker and named Will Farren also into the NFL.
Speaker 2: Both of those guys special teamers.
Speaker 7: Parker Kingston I think has an opportunity as well as
the special teams guy and a wide receiver as well
in Aaron Roddicks often. So those are three names and
those guys playing at the next level that matters, that
has to be taken into account. So this is the
next guy up, Ben, And the biggest thing I look
at this higher that I love is you're.
Speaker 2: Able to keep the recruiting. You're able to keep the recruiting.
Speaker 7: The foundation inside BYU that's the biggest thing for local
kids and people to stay. So you had to think,
like I mentioned yesterday on the show, when you saw
Folo te South Tula coming back right away, when you
saw Isaiah Glaska announcent and the rest of these guys
on the defense, you had to get the feeling at okay,
probably an internal higher I know there was some external
care who could have done great, you know if that
were the case. But Kline did the right thing. Promoted
Kelly Papinka, who's already been there. They speak the same language.
This would be good for Kate Pop and you heard
it from you know, his brother Brady, and I get
that sense like k Pop is gonna call you out.
I go back to a media availability and you'll recall
it when Klanie said it was actually Kelly Papinka who
showed clips in film. And it wasn't anything football related
that we weren't celebrating. We weren't get excited on the sidelines,
we weren't getting hyped. It was that West Virginia game
when Bear threw over three hundred yards for the first time,
and I think Chason Parker both went over one hundred
yards and nobody celebrating, he called out the team and
got on him.
Speaker 2: So that gives you vibes of.
Speaker 7: Future coordinator, future head coach. Right, So I love the
fact that this hire got is happening. It'll just be finalized.
Shout out to Pete on breaking the news. We and
the media and fans have been waiting to hear this,
so now Ben that this has been put out there.
Once they get all the behind the scenes stuff, I
think now you'll start to see the commitments of the
Crystal ball people because b YU is the only big
DALs school that doesn't have any transfers committee yet you'll
start to see that thing now with this news and
hopefully been now the cornerbacks coaching safeties as well. After
that so started with Kelly, shout out to him, congrats,
well deserved, looking forward to seeing what he does as
we cover this BAU program the rest of the way.
Speaker 3: Excited about it. Congratulations to and his family. Gets a
great opportunity to lead a team. And you bring up
a really good point. Look at the retention on the
defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: That's all you got. I mean, look that tells you
everything you need to know.
Speaker 3: The guy that's closest in my opinion, to personality, skill
set competency in his respective position.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Jay's been coaching the safeties. Kelly PingER has been
been coaching the edge guys, the outside linebackers. If you
want a j.
Speaker 4: Hill replica of how he recruits, how he develops, and
and and and.
Speaker 3: An employee of a great scheme and a great coach
of a great scheme, it's Kelly pepingham Man.
Speaker 4: He's a holistic human. He's got a robust skill set
that and he's whole minded. So I love it. I
love it. I think it's great. Let's see how it
plays out. This defense can be under Kelly's From pinkon,
we got more breaking news. What do you got for?
Repondited the three man people?
Speaker 7: I hate to change the subject, Ben, we can stay.
We need to keep it on football. But basketball, we
had a feeling that Kaba Keta would be uh.
Speaker 2: He was doubtful aka almost out.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: He is out now for the game against what is
it Arizona State tonight, But now Conard Davis Junior a
game time decision, so b YU basketball could be down
potentially two starters. The depth will be tested now with
Canard out. You wonder if Alex d. Kostis she's gonna
get that start bend. So this is gonna be interesting
because if if Canard doesn't go, you have that role
with Kaba, they can put Beata beat you in and
they could go Hadiem. But with no Canard, Davis Junior,
that's tough because that's your best defender in my opinion,
on the guard line ages of forward, even though he
plays the point forward. With no Canard, I think that
it should depth a little bit.
Speaker 3: Ben Well, I feel, uh, you know, I feel like
I don't know if there's been like a little bit
of a sickness going around.
Speaker 4: I mean we've seen a.
Speaker 3: Lot of yeah, little bits lose the coronas the you know,
who knows what's you know, we got the neuro virus
roaming around making everyone throw up anyway, Uh Kevi it
was doubtful.
Speaker 4: Jean McGregor was doubtful.
Speaker 3: Uh yesterday we found out, you know, Bertie Cinslowski, kJ
Perry Day Pickens and Dawson Baker were out. It's it's
not good that Keble's out, and it's not good that
Kennard Davis, who's sitting there in hovering and we don't
know if he's gonna play or not. But this team
is built for times like this, right, Don't we have
enough depth even though we.
Speaker 4: Have a lot of injuries and a lot of sickness?
What do you make of it? Ronald the three man Weaver?
Speaker 3: Don't we have the depth in order to win and
compete even when we got a lot of our star
players out.
Speaker 2: One hundred BYU has the depth?
Speaker 7: Hunt everybody they have on that roster, as Kevin Young
sail when they played in that was constant game and
they beat him by by thirty pretty much is technically
twenty eight, but beat him by thirty. They everybody they
brought there. He felt was for a reason that you
saw that showcase. Look, this might be a game and
a guy that's kind of been forgotten about. I'm gonna
throw out there, maybe Dominique Diamande is able to get some.
Speaker 2: Time and get in the game.
Speaker 7: You know, that's a that's another guy that's kind of
been forgott about. I know Kevin Junggan mentioned him in
the media availability, but you have to wonder what canard
out and Dominique, who's approved defender Alexi might lack that
on the defensive side, but the offensive siety is talented.
Speaker 2: Do you throw Dominique?
Speaker 7: Remember, Kevin Young has mentioned what been the last couple
of days, makes us long.
Speaker 2: Makes us big, We're big, We're big, like he just
kept saying that.
Speaker 7: So Dominique is a six to nine wing player that's
gonna clog up the perimeters. So you have to wonder
what Canard out is. Does Dominique get his first start
of how much action does he see tonight? So I'm
interested to see this. You know, look, everybody tryna say Ron,
this is not good. No, while this is great. Actually
it's good for these guys who need to be who
need to play, who need to get experienced. You need
to be tested in conference right now, at the start
of it, because everybody on this roster needs to have
built experience by the time March comes around when they
get to the tournament bin. You don't want to waste time.
Oh we could have done it. No, no, this is
the perfect time. So at this point, I know this
is going to sound terrible because if it can already
is even somewhat of a healthy enough to play you
play them, but don't play them, let them let them,
let them rest, and let the guys on the bench
take a toll and let them learn. If these guys
are going to be on the roster next your ben.
This is great development for them, I feel like with
the coaching staff, and a great opportunity for these guys
to learn what they can do on tape and develop
from it. I mean, isn't that how Flucina got better
was playing right away when guys went down due to
injury unexpectedly.
Speaker 2: So that's the best way. So I'm all for it. Honestly.
I think back to rugby.
Speaker 7: I played, somebody went down, came in, got some experience,
wasn't maybe great at first, but you learn. You learn
by trial and error, and the trial of this BAU
basketball team is everyone needs experience, and look, this is great.
Speaker 2: So somebody has to step up tonight.
Speaker 4: Step up, show up, show out.
Speaker 3: A couple of things here that have come across the wire,
and congratulations Philisi Dos and aj To Bonsa has continued
to just chock up these awards mid season awards. De
Bonsa was named to the Wooden Award mid Season Top
twenty five Watchless. He is one of the top twenty
five players in the country. The six foint nine point
forward enters Wednesday's Big twelve matchup against Arizona State, ranked
second in the nation and scoring at twenty three point
one points per game, and having scored in double figures
in all fourteen games of his collegiate career, the fourth
from his shoo three to begin at career in Big
twelve history. He is shooting fifty eight point six percent
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Speaker 4: What do you got from me, Ronnie?
Speaker 2: It's official.
Speaker 7: We can now move on ben from it and continue
to talk about it. Sedd and Stone almost the entire
defensive staff.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 7: Head coach Kline Sataki announces Kelly Papinge is defensive coordinator
PERBYU Cougars dot Com. The press release Puha as associate
head coach and do Mario Warren as defensive pass game
coordinator in cornerbacks coach. He says, I'm pleased to announce
the promotions of the names I just mentioned.
Speaker 2: Sataki said.
Speaker 7: We have a lot of quality coaches in our program
and I'm proud their collaboration effort. Collaborative efforts over the
past years and the momentum we have been building as
a staff from competent Kelly and will be a great
benefit to our players in these new roles as we
continue to find ways to help our players improve and
elevate the success a BA football. I'm excited to add
to Mario to our defensive staff. He has experienced both
as a head coach and a defensive coordinator, and is
known for his expertise in the secondary, developing young talent
and being.
Speaker 2: A great recruiter. There you go, Bennett's official now.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Papinga former Viewery linebacker. Obviously he's
he's got seventeen years now, going through seventeen year of coaching,
and you have to wonder, Okay, well, what's the status
with Justin Enna. Is he going to be a part
of his staff? You know, obviously Generals moved on. Justin
Ena had defensive coordinating experience as well. He was up
in the booth. What happens with Justin Enna going forward?
And who's going to be the safety's coach right what's
going on with that as well? So you know, there's
a couple of candidates out there that I would love
to see back at BYU.
Speaker 4: I think Gavin vot would be great, and also Tanner Jacobson.
Speaker 3: Both of those guys are at Weaver State right now
under coach care staff. So I think Tanner's the assistant
head coach and maybe special teams coordinator. I don't know
what position he's coaching, and then Gavin is the DC currently.
Speaker 4: Either one of those shoot, bring them ball.
Speaker 3: Both of them can be great football coaches at BYU.
And both of them have coached under or you know
they've they've they've been coached by Kalani Stake. So that's
the latest here. We got some breaking news new coaching
hires as Ronald the three man we were pointed out
BYU head coach Kalani Stake named Kellipapinga as defensive coordinator,
Sione Poujas associate head coach, and Tomorio Warren as defensive
pass game coordinator and cornerbacks coach. And what do you
make of this Syoni Pouha move Now Sione was brought in.
Remember Shone was coaching at Utah for a while and after.
Speaker 4: His historic.
Speaker 3: I think college in a great NFL career, got into
coaching at Utah. Is a student assistant from twenty fifteen
to twenty sixteen. Became Utah's director of player develop in
twenty seventeen, was the Navy defensive tackles coach in twenty
eighteen under coach Kenny Nea Multalolo. In twenty eighteen twenty
twenty one, he became the Utah University of Utah defensive
tackles coach, and then in two thousand and twenty two
to present UH he became the defensive tackles coach at
BYU give me your reaction. I know you've interviewed Shelley
on a number of occasions. How do you break down
that particular higher oh.
Speaker 7: Man, Ben, whatever I start, I mean, we don't have
much time much I can get it more into it,
but that interview I normally you know, go five to
ten minutes at the max. But Ben that when eighteen
and everybody you know appreciate. The fans loved it because
he just was able to connect to the players. He
literally when I was talking to him and me, it
just reminded me of he was like a father figured
to me for the eighteen minutes after we got outside
of like football, the relationship to connection based at christ
Center atmosphere, it felt like I was talking to like
one of Koalani's like brothers, you know, like honestly, that's
what it felt.
Speaker 2: It gave me that type of vibe so perfect for
the culture.
Speaker 7: A fig great recruiter, cares about young men, fits into
this program extremely well. So it's interesting, you know, seeing
him promoted the associate head coach, So happy for him.
Congrats to him, and I think he'll, you know, be
able to lead that program.
Speaker 2: It's the guy that's been played in the NFL.
Speaker 7: Look, he has a lot of experience and was also
one of the coaches at Michigan Kyle Whittingham. So that's
a great promotion as well.
Speaker 2: Happy for us. He on in his family.
Speaker 4: Congratulations.
Speaker 3: Tocioti Pooja defensive tackles coach and assant head coach.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Also congratulations to Mario Warren. I did a little breakdown
of his coaching experience. You can check that out at
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Speaker 4: Little breathing between the line segment.
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BYU basketball game tonight. I'm gonna hand the mic over
to Ronald the three Man Weaver as he prep chef
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