Speaker 1: John Murray joins us.
Speaker 2: Now as we go behind the counter with him, John,
what's going on, brother?
Speaker 3: Two of the college football playoff games stink too?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the college football.
Speaker 4: You know, we've ruined bowl season. The ball games mean nothing,
nobody cares. The bettings down I would imagine the TV
ratings are down right.
Speaker 3: In return, they.
Speaker 4: Could at least give us a playoff that makes some sense,
has all the best teams in it.
Speaker 3: But they can't even do that.
Speaker 2: And they're giving us a game that we've seen before
too too. Yeah, the Alabama Oklahoma game, it seems intriguing.
But Alabama backsliding. I mean, come on, what they did
against Georgia last week and their most important game of
the year was embarrassing minus three yards rushing where they
clearly were just you know, scrubbed up and down the
car pit there. And now they're going to Oklahoma and
we saw that game going back what now, four weeks ago,
where Alabama outgained Oklahoma by two hundred yards, but they
had the turnovers.
Speaker 1: That cost him.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't want to watch that.
Speaker 2: There's not one opening round playoff game that I'm interested in.
And you mentioned Oregon twenty one and a half over
James Madison Ole Miss sixteen and a half against Tulane,
And that would be a lot bigger if it was
Lane Kevin and there wasn't all the drama going you
know on there.
Speaker 3: Tilane coach is also leaving, by the way, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and James Madison coach too.
Speaker 2: And then you got Miami in Texas A and M, which, okay,
that that's intriguing in A and M is a three
and a half point favorite, but again you get.
Speaker 1: Two psycho teams.
Speaker 3: Really, I mean intriguing to who? Yeah, you know, I
don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, I'm not really interested intriguing
in the sense it's a coin flip of who could
win that game, just like Alabama Oklahoma. But it's you know,
none of those four teams, Okay, Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami or
in are winning beyond this week.
Speaker 4: Probably not. I mean it's it's well A and M.
Whoever wins the A and M game is going to get.
Speaker 3: Destroyed by Ohio State.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, could Alabama or Oklahoma throw a scare into Indiana?
I don't think so. I don't think that they could,
but I could be wrong. I think you got Texas
Tech Oregon is gonna be a good game, and the
semifinals will be good, even like the ole Miss beats
tu Lane and then we get a rematch of ole
Miss Georgia. How did they not just slide Georgia into.
Speaker 3: The two seed the SEC champions?
Speaker 4: Of course, and because you know, it's easy to say
it now, but at the end of the day, Ohio
State's schedule really wasn't that hard, you know, like what
were their big wins? I could argue that Georgia had
a has a better resume than Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no question about.
Speaker 4: They won their conference, they beat Alabama, they beat Texas,
they beat Ole Miss.
Speaker 1: Saron wars every week.
Speaker 3: Ohio State beat Texas too.
Speaker 4: And then there are other two wins I guess were
at Washington and at Michigan, and then they lost their
conference championship game. But just looking at the two at
Ohio State, George's got a better resume than Ohio State,
no question. So why aren't they the two seed? If
nothing else, just to avoid having two SEC teams playing
the quarterfinals.
Speaker 1: Don't have a lot of smarter people committee.
Speaker 4: There was no common sense used in selecting the teams,
in selecting the format, and in selecting the way they
matched them up.
Speaker 3: And I think they got a lot to learn from.
Speaker 4: The Basketball Tournament Committee, the committee that I've been complaining
about since I.
Speaker 3: Was a little boy. They they do a good job
of that.
Speaker 4: It's harder now the conferences are so bloated, But before
the conferences got so bloated, you couldn't play a team
from your conference until the Elite eight.
Speaker 3: That was a rule they had.
Speaker 4: It's impossible now, but back in the day, that's how
and the football Committee could do that. They could figure
out a way to avoid these matchups. But they don't.
They just well, they just throw them out there.
Speaker 5: This is one of the times that they decided you
don't penalize a team for losing your conference championship. They
use it whenever, what about by you, I know, when.
Speaker 3: It suits them.
Speaker 2: Because it's not that statement and it was a close gut.
That's a narrative that it's out there, but it's not true.
But again, they can use it however they deem fit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked.
Speaker 4: I did a show yesterday with Marco's friend Kelly in Vegas,
and yeah, I think it's I think it's bs that
Notre Dame's out of the thing. But forgetting about Notre Dame,
just forget about them for a second.
Speaker 1: No, no, we can't forget about it.
Speaker 2: I'm protesting, but just protesting this why I'm wearing my
Notre Dame shirt.
Speaker 1: Look, I saw it, I was worried.
Speaker 5: I saw it coming here.
Speaker 1: That is why I wore Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Because they bumped Alabama over Notre Dame, which was ridiculous,
just so they could set this up.
Speaker 1: Talk about the narrative to fit their message.
Speaker 4: But why did by you fall be past Miami with
their loss? Well, okay, Alabama also got to deroid and
their conference championship, that's true. But BYU we knew they
were phony to begin with. I know, hold on, I
think I think EYU is phony. I don't think BYU
could have done anything in the playoffs. But my argument
was they played at a better conference than Miami, they
had a better record than Miami, they made the conference
championship game, which Miami did not, and they got knocked
down because they lost a conference championship game that Miami
didn't qualify for in a worse conference. Was BYU gonna
do anything in the tournament. Absolutely not No. But you
have to decide, are you trying to find the teams
that are actually have a chance to win. In that case,
you've got to include Notre Dame, or you're trying to
find the teams that deserve it.
Speaker 3: In that case, you got to include BYU.
Speaker 1: Or you gotta include Texas or Vanderbilt deserve it.
Speaker 4: I will Texas has to be in it if you're
just trying to pick the winner. But I think I
think the committee did a terrible job. If I worked
at TNT and they were like, Okay, what's our what's
our big primetime game Saturday night, it's JMU Oregon going
up against Bears Packers at Soldier Field, And oh, by
the way, JAMU is a twenty two point underdog.
Speaker 3: Oh. Also, by the way, their coaches leaving for another
job after the game.
Speaker 2: So, by the way, let's insert another orderdiculous episode instead
of that.
Speaker 4: Right, it's ridiculous state. The College Football Playoff Committee does.
Speaker 3: A terrible job.
Speaker 5: Notre Dame should have been in and Alabama should have
been out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Alabama. I think Miami and Alabama are
the two that are really lucky to be in there.
But going back to the first thing is like forget
you gotta you gotta redo the whole format. Why is
Tulane in there with two losses? Two losses and they're
in there. B Yu lost one game in the regular
season in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: It goes back and I got no Big Twelve. I
got no b Yu skinning.
Speaker 2: It goes back to the courtesy in the obligations. Were
obligated to have the best team. Of course, inclusion John inclusion.
It is wait, it is It's the Make a Wish
Foundation via sports.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. We want to make a team's
wish that they could be there.
Speaker 2: They actually think, and you know you're the perfect guy
to answer this, right, this is what college football, this
committee is thinking. We want you to watch the Sun
Belt and the Mountain West and the American This is
gonna get you.
Speaker 1: To watch it. No, it's not. People are showing up
in their own stadium. Have you ever seen the attendance figures?
And you know better than anybody they're not betting on
the Sun Belt. Well, I think one of the they
want the inclusion.
Speaker 4: I think a really bad argument I heard was somebody said,
I forget which one of these chuckleheads it was, but
somebody said that this is the only way these teams
could ever get in. It's the only way they ever
have anything to play for. That's nonsense. Cincinnati got into
a four team playoff, they got into a fourteen play
They got slaughtered.
Speaker 3: Obviously. If there hadn't been conference requirements.
Speaker 4: Last year, boy, the States still would have got into
the twelve.
Speaker 3: They would have made it. They would have lost, but
they would have been in the field. That's not true.
And if the only way these schools can get in
is through.
Speaker 4: Some active charity, which is basically what that argument is,
then don't let them in at all.
Speaker 3: It's just an active charity. This is this is a
this is college football.
Speaker 2: They don't care about the twelve best. Don't say it's
the twelve best, it's it's the ten best. And the
two courtesy invites.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's pretty weak, and I
think I think it's it's tough for a school like
Notre Dame. They actually had a team that could have
won the national championship. So forget about all the records
and who beat who and all that.
Speaker 3: The power ratings and the strength of schedule. That team
actually could have won a national let's talk about that.
Speaker 4: And they were healthy, right and their coach isn't currently
awaiting trial somewhere and.
Speaker 3: He's not leaving for another job. How are they not
in the field.
Speaker 2: The most accurate rankings is that College Football Power Index. Okay,
do you know do you know what the top three
college football power.
Speaker 4: I can tell you if it was me, it would
probably Ohio State, Indiana, and then either.
Speaker 3: Georgia or Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is three over Georgia. Yes, Georgia or Georgia,
and Miami is seven.
Speaker 3: I will say Georgia is really peaking.
Speaker 4: I I I saw Todd Furman, who's a friend of mine,
and he gave an interview before last weekend saying Notre
Dame would be favored at all of those SEC schools.
I can't go quite that far. I don't think they'd
be favored in Athens. I do think that they'd be
favored in Norman and College Station and Oxford, the three
venues that are actually hosting first round games. I think
Notre Dame would have been favored in all three of
those games. I don't think they're favorite at Georgia, but
it's debatable. But the fact that we're the fact that
we're even talking about it shows that they had to
be in the playoff and they're not. And it's just
it hurts the field, it hurts it hurts the credibility
of it.
Speaker 2: And again we're talking about the opening round. We should
be so excited. Just think how good this could be.
We will be talking about this is wide open this year.
It's not Ohio State and everybody else if we truly
had the twelve best. Instead, we're talking about this nonsense
of two undeserving and four ridiculous games on the opening weekend.
Speaker 4: So I agree with you. I think it's bad. I
think it's bad for business. At the end of the day,
we're trying to draw a crowd in here to watch
these games. Yes, when we get down to the semi
final and it's Ohio State and Georgia, obviously it's gonna
be great for business. But why aren't we doing that
the first weekend? Why aren't we having Notre Dame play
whoever in the first weekend?
Speaker 3: Mark? Why are we watching all this and Tulana?
Speaker 5: Why preaching to the choir we should be in there
one hundred percent and I and I'm okay with Miami
because I still put something. Even though it was the
first game of the season and it was only a
three point game, they did beat Miami. And if they
have the same records, how do you how do you
put the one over the other.
Speaker 2: Miami beat Notre Dame with a field goal with a
minute and six seconds left in the game. The stats
were identical, and you had a miraculous touchdown by me
and you had a an interception by uh, you know,
the Notre Dame quarterback.
Speaker 1: But bottom line is this.
Speaker 2: You can't you cannot forgive okay, And no one has
mentioned this in the committee, and you heard me say
it for three four weeks. You have to penalize this
team for losing at home to Louisville and at SMU.
Those are two horrendous losses. And Notre Dame loses to
two top seven programs weeks one in two by combined
four points. No, you penalized that team in a crappy
conference where they can't even qualify for their own conference
championship game. They don't deserve to be in, so you
should not be okay with them.
Speaker 1: They stink.
Speaker 3: Who's running the ACC these days? What do they do?
What are they doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami stinks.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 1: Stink.
Speaker 4: I think Texas A and M made the playoff because
they had the easy secs edule and I'm watching, you
know I made I made that reference to the coaching staff.
A and M's coaching staff is being picked apart right now,
you know. I mean, shouldn't that be a consideration. A
team that's healthy has their full coaching staff. I think
it should be.
Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree. I really it's so flawed
it's ridiculous. Real quick, NFL, where are we seeing the shot? Still?
Speaker 3: Is that still going on the NFL? NFL the way
they played.
Speaker 1: Disregard last night's games. Don't even talk about it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't talk about it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They played the Raiders again.
Speaker 4: You know, Philadelphia's got some key key offensive and defensive
lineman Hurt and Jalen Hurts doesn't look good.
Speaker 3: So they played the Raiders.
Speaker 4: They played the Vikings, they played Buffalo Buffalo.
Speaker 3: That's that's a.
Speaker 4: Pretty intriguing game in the morning, Buffalo and h in
New England. And they played the Rams Rams. They laid
them five, they led them five and a half. They're
six point favorite now against the Troy Tough. We finally
have two good afternoon games. I don't think I've said
that all year, because I did the TV sheet today
and I was like, wow, there's that actually a decision
to make in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: Here at the super book, we are going to go
with Broncos Packers.
Speaker 4: Okay, but that's the Rams lines a real good game too.
That's not a layup decision.
Speaker 1: It was that Was that a vote amongst the powers
to be?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the vote was. I voted for it, and then
I wrote it down like I submitted it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Buffalo in New England, Buffalo and the Chargers play
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: But I think I think there's more betting interest in Buffalo,
New England.
Speaker 1: Real quick mentioned those two games.
Speaker 2: A lot of people will say, well, wait a minute,
now you have two teams New England and in Denver
the one and two seeds.
Speaker 1: More than likely they're at home, but they're both underdogs.
Speaker 4: Why well, I think in the Buffalo the Buffalo case,
they've just been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 3: People trust them more.
Speaker 4: Also, we saw sharp money on Buffalo moved us to
Buffalo favored. At Denver, people just don't believe in Denver,
and the reason is because they don't score a.
Speaker 3: Lot of points.
Speaker 4: The higher power rating usually goes to those offense. Denver
continues to kind of skate by. They win a lot
of close games, mostly against bad teams. There still are
there's a lot more doubters of Denver and of bow
Nicks than there are of Drake May and the Patriots.
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