1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: And nine. 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Ignition Ship five. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,199 Speaker 1: Four three two one zero. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: All engine running. 5 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for 6 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:29,839 Ignition with the ae W fan hob podcast team. This 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,039 is Kelson. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: And returning from Parts unknown. It's me, It's me, It's 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,920 the vibe. That's right, Shades, the Vibe back co hosting, 10 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:43,200 back to the glory days. 11 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: It's not a better year. It has to bet a 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,159 year since you co hosted the podcast with it. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 5: Remember when the last word? 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: But I remember him doing it. 15 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:50,359 Speaker 5: I don't when. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: God, Well, it's just me and Kelson. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, February or January of twenty twenty three. We started 18 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:00,679 this podcast and it used to be just being you 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:10,280 and then it grew. Oh well, I digress, Shades. What 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,439 do you want to talk about first? 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,879 Speaker 4: Well, let's start with one of the pet topics du 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 jour of the Internet wrestling community right now, and that 23 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:27,760 is WWE reportedly per Fightful I believe, looking to counter 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,920 program the next aw pay per view with a premium 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,439 live event of their own. How do we feel about that? 26 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:45,439 Speaker 6: Petty butchery again, eddichery petty butchery on Triple Ah's part, 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,640 he cannot help himself. 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Well, let me stop there. Let me stop you there, Jess, 29 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:53,840 because you just said something that's very interesting. Is it 30 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:55,879 on Triple H or is it on t KO? 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: It's t K O think but go ahead, yess. 32 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: I would I would like equal blame. I mean, I'm 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,840 pretty sure Triple H isn't arguing like no, don't counter 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 program please, no, don't stop. 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm sure they're not dragging them by 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 uh the neck with one of Hangman had in page's 37 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:26,439 uh chains to the arena to produce the show. Yeah, 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,199 what about? Um K, what do you think about it? 39 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:30,719 It's funny. 40 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:32,599 Speaker 5: Today I was on one of my wrestling pages and 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,199 I saw a very funny response someone posted by the 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,120 reason why they're doing this and that it's because they 43 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:40,599 want Tony Kahn to steff up his game. 44 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 6: Uh. 45 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:46,319 Speaker 5: I think it's just funny to me. But they're doing it, 46 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,000 but it's not because of that, because as we all know, 47 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,560 there ain't no party like an aw pay review party, 48 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:59,280 and they're usually better than WWE, but usually I think 49 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:02,680 it's strategic and they're trying to do something, but they're 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,080 gonna get blown out of water because you can't. It's 51 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:09,479 really hard to be an AW pay per view. I 52 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:13,360 can think of a small, maybe handful that hads fallen flat, 53 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:17,120 and that's within a six year period. So they're just 54 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:22,159 trying to stir the pot, right, and it's working. 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I could understand that they were trying 56 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,159 to stir the pot, but you can't plain a show 57 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,879 on like WrestleMania Night one and Night two and then 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,639 try to stir the pot based on that. 59 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, go aheads. 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: So I have a perspective. Number one, I think it 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,520 You know, TKO and Nick Con and Triple H can 62 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,759 talk all they want about not seeing aw's competition, Well, 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,039 they didn't see aw's competition, they wouldn't be doing this. 64 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:59,240 So in that respect, it's a little bit of a 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,840 acknowledgment of ae w's prominence and how they've really, for 66 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:08,240 you know, forged a niche for themselves in the wrestling world. 67 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:12,120 But also, I think a byproduct of what's happening here 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,120 is by putting these things up head to head all 69 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,839 the time like this, what t KO is inadvertently doing 70 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,600 is they are polarizing the wrestling audience. So I think 71 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:27,839 pretty soon you're not gonna have a lot of crossover 72 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,720 fans between WWE and a w it's you're you're gonna 73 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:37,000 either watch one or the other, and I don't know 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,240 that that's necessarily a good thing. I have my own 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,800 reasons that I don't watch WWE, but I think polarizing 76 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,160 the audience is only going to lead to things like 77 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,160 more toxicity in the wrestling, chatter in the community, and 78 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,639 you know, it's gonna create maybe some awkward city situations 79 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,079 between friends who work at different companies. But either way, 80 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,000 I don't see this as a winning move for TKO 81 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,079 long term because they're not going to take away from 82 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,680 aw's audience. That's not going to happen. 83 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh they're no. I mean when you consider also that 84 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,600 with the practices that TQO and I amn't going to 85 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:26,920 say TKO not WWE, even though the booking has been 86 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:31,759 kind of weird from WWE, that's that's them. That's on them. 87 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,839 That's what they've done. That's what they always do. You know, 88 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:38,319 they use pay per view events to promote the other 89 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,680 the next pay per view event. They just did that 90 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,519 at SummerSlam, you know, with their main event at SummerSlam. 91 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:53,399 But anyway, what I'm saying here is, look, AW has 92 00:05:55,319 --> 00:06:01,839 already put up their posters online and announces of all 93 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,079 of the pay per views from now until the end 94 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,600 of the year. Correct, Yes, they've got it the right 95 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,920 right on those posters. Do you know any did you 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,600 notice anything that's consistent on all those posters except for 97 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,519 forbidden door. 98 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: To take place on Saturday because of the NFL season. 99 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: I think there's one on Sunday. I think there is 100 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,879 one on Sunday. But the one thing that I've noticed 101 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:36,160 that's consistent about aw's announcement posters is they have the 102 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:42,240 dates on them, but they don't have any times. No times. 103 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:46,240 Why because they know Tony Kahan is sitting back in 104 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:53,040 his chair drinking his coffee weirdly, and because he does 105 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,199 drink coffee weirdly. I'm sorry to wit he holds it. 106 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,879 I just like put that down anyway, Dery. He's expecting 107 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,600 a counterprogramming. But see, here's the thing. WWE can't counterprogram 108 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:11,519 their main roster pay per views or ples in the 109 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,519 middle of a day. Their advertisers will not stand for it. 110 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,639 It would take an act of God probably to get 111 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,000 the advertisers to agree to put a ple on during 112 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,560 the day. So if a if WWE announces a Ple 113 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:32,920 for the same night as All Out on September twentieth. 114 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:37,199 All AW has to do is changed is put the 115 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,240 time as three pm when the WW when's going to 116 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:44,480 start at six thirty, and AW is just going to 117 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,519 run right into the beginning of it like it did 118 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,680 with Saturday, the night's main event, and correct me if 119 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,839 I'm wrong. And I don't know if this is possible, 120 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:56,680 because I honestly don't watch rewatch anything on Peacock. But 121 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,000 if you were to watch a wwepl the next day 122 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:05,879 on Peacock, can you fast forward through the commercials? 123 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: I I don't watch that WW so I don't know 124 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,519 that question. 125 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,639 Speaker 1: Well, what I understand this is that if you can 126 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,839 fast forward through the commercials, which I don't see why 127 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,079 you wouldn't be able to if you have the right 128 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,519 subscription plan anyway, because I really don't know how it works, 129 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:29,040 because I get Peacock through my Internet provider for free. 130 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,639 It's part of the package. But anyway, what I'm saying 131 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,000 here is people are going to watch All Out like 132 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,720 they watched All In and whatever I saw it written 133 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:41,639 all over this all over the internet. I'm going to 134 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,440 watch all Out or All In. I'm sorry, and then 135 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:52,879 I'm gonna watch Saturday night's main event and and uh, well, 136 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:56,759 what was it? The Great American Bash tomorrow the next day, 137 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,320 and then they can fast forward through the commercials. That 138 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:05,159 that can't make the advertisers very happy that their commercials 139 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,399 are getting fast forward through. 140 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: No, And I think the worst part of it all 141 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:17,360 is so reportedly the big main event that they're going 142 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,320 to put up against the AW Show is John Cena 143 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:24,440 versus Brock Lesnar for the millionth time. And I'm like, 144 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,600 these guys are almost fifty years old. At each of 145 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:32,039 them they are like and then they're not like Christian 146 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,879 Cage at fifty. Okay, Christian Cage is still very good, 147 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,240 you know, serviceable in the ring. Okay, these these guys 148 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:48,279 are badly functional. Is so I don't see, you know, 149 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,879 I don't I don't know what the draw is like 150 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,000 the nobody who, nobody who's like a big AW fan 151 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,679 is gonna go, oh well, I've got to go see 152 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,600 CNN Lesnar for the millionth time. 153 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I t I only agree with you, shades. Look, 154 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,480 both Cena and Lesner are forty eight right now, and 155 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:10,159 they will be forty eight on September twentieth at the 156 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,879 as yet to be named wwepl. 157 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 6: A. 158 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: W simply just has to put their younger, more athletic, 159 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:24,919 more meaningful wrestlers, and more meaningful matches at all out. 160 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: Yeah and. 161 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 162 00:10:30,279 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 6: Oh okay. I didn't want to talk over anybody. I 163 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:37,960 didn't see the match myself, so this is hearsay. But 164 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,879 just to give a little bit of a devil his due, 165 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:47,799 I heard that the Cody Sina match until the ending 166 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,320 was actually very good, Like Meltzer gave it five stars. 167 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,320 What does it take for Meltzer to give five stars 168 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,200 to a Sina match? 169 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not buying it. 170 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,639 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna say this to you. I watched the 171 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,039 Cody versus seeing a match, I believe it was it 172 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:15,519 uh money in the bank, and they literally just danced 173 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 around each other for most of the match. I mean 174 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,120 they didn't touch each other. 175 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 6: You know. 176 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,399 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, are we going to do 177 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,759 a line dance or are we going to wrestle? You know? 178 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,120 But here's the thing. When you're the other thing you 179 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,720 have to consider is that when all out comes out, 180 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:35,200 you're going to have a match card of at least 181 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:44,799 probably ten matches. But the pl for WWE on that 182 00:11:44,919 --> 00:11:47,240 night is going to probably only have like five matches, 183 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 because that's what WWE does. And when one of those 184 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:53,440 matches are two forty eight, forty eight year old part 185 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:59,759 timers going at it for as Shade said the billionth time, Yeah, Nick, 186 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,120 it takes away from it, you know. And so now 187 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,200 you've you're down the four matches. Because I agree with 188 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,440 whoever said that. I don't think anybody is gonna be 189 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,159 switched switching over from all In. I don't think even 190 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,720 if the even if WWE put on the best match possible, 191 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,840 I do not think that anybody that's watching All out 192 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,279 is going to switch over to w W E pol 193 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,919 E because it's kind of like what Shade says, it's 194 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:29,759 neither or thing, you know. But but they're especially not 195 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:33,879 gonna switch over to see a completely get for two 196 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:39,840 forty eight year old part timers. Russell again, Well, I'm sorry. 197 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:44,919 Speaker 4: Let's let's move on to a former WWE talent who 198 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:49,200 well he might be a former he might. Yeah, I'm 199 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,080 not sure we're not getting worked, but let's talk about 200 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:57,480 Killer Cross. Uh does he have a place in ae W. 201 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. Yeah, to go ahead, Jess. 202 00:13:04,279 --> 00:13:08,279 Speaker 6: I was going to I was fully prepared to come 203 00:13:08,279 --> 00:13:14,000 into this podcast advocating for him because his promos really 204 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:16,600 are second to none. He's excellent on the mic, he's 205 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:20,320 got a great presentation. And then my husband, bless him, 206 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,960 asked me what is what is a Killer Cross's finisher? 207 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,039 And I could not answer that question, and then it 208 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,000 just pretty much changed my entire perspective, like maybe I 209 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 should rethink this. 210 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question, Jess and MK 211 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:41,120 and Shades. If Killer Cross were to come to AW, 212 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,840 where does he belong? Is he an upper card wrestler? 213 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,440 Is he a mid carter? You know? Is he somebody 214 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,559 would go after the AW World Championship or TT Championship 215 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,159 or the trios or god forbid the FTW if they 216 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:56,919 ever bring it back. 217 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,399 Speaker 5: Uh, I think it needs to go with start out 218 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,240 as a tag team in the working way way up. 219 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: If he comes. I haven't seen him wrestling a long time. 220 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,519 Speaker 5: I just think he has a great persona and maybe 221 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:14,799 putting him with someone who's a little on a darker side, 222 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,679 not the uh you know, uh that's probably sounded weird, 223 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,279 but uh, just someone who he can match his energy 224 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,240 and cover for his wrestling skills. 225 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: Right. 226 00:14:30,759 --> 00:14:32,639 Speaker 1: With a name like Killer Cross, you're not gonna put 227 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:36,480 him with uh, you know, Orange Cassidy. You know that 228 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:37,399 doesn't make sense. 229 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: Garrison, No, but uh. 230 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,919 Speaker 1: Are people who are. 231 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,919 Speaker 3: Here's Chris Garrison. 232 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,039 Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I just I don't know enough 233 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,320 about his wrestling skills anymore. I haven't I don't pay attention. 234 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: To w W. 235 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: I guess I should go look him up. I'm gonna 236 00:14:57,519 --> 00:15:00,320 fight for him a little bit. But if we pass 237 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:02,879 on them, oh well we're stacked anyway. But I wouldn't 238 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:05,600 mind if we're gonna reever rebuild a Ring of Honor 239 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,440 to put him on there. 240 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:08,679 Speaker 3: But I don't know what the plan for that is. 241 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,799 Speaker 1: I had not thought about that. That is a really 242 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,480 good point, you know. To be honest with you, I'm 243 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,559 gonna say this. You know, if any of these x 244 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:21,000 WU guys and women want to come into uh the 245 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,679 be all elite, put them in ring of honor, make 246 00:15:25,679 --> 00:15:26,200 them earn it. 247 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I mean not. 248 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not talking about everybody. I'm talking about 249 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:34,919 people that you would get. I don't want to disrespect them, 250 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,919 but say you're they're not gonna get main card money. 251 00:15:40,279 --> 00:15:42,000 You know I'm talking about. 252 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,879 Speaker 4: You're not going to get the Adam Copeland treatment. Is 253 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:44,480 that what you're telling you? 254 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna get paid like all this 255 00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:51,320 money like Mercedes Monet, you know, and stuff like that. 256 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:54,519 You're you're gonna get, you know, Bargaet basement. You know, 257 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,840 you just got fired. We're gonna hire you and give 258 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:59,440 you a shot money and if you do well, then 259 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,159 we'll renegotiate kind of money. You know what I'm saying. 260 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,399 Speaker 6: That's actually an idea. 261 00:16:05,879 --> 00:16:10,519 Speaker 4: Here's what I think Killer Cross needs to do. I 262 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,639 don't know if AAW is the best spot for him 263 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,799 right now because it's a very loaded roster. And conversely, 264 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,879 I don't know the Ring of Honor is going to 265 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,840 be great for his career. What I would do if 266 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,320 I were kill Across as I would go on bended 267 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:33,080 knee back to New Japan Pro Wrestling, beg for another shot, 268 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,639 because I guess he food bard his last one the 269 00:16:35,679 --> 00:16:38,559 time he was there. If he could get in with 270 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:42,000 New Japan and do like a one to two year 271 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,399 run there, I think they would be receptive to his gimmick. 272 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,840 And secondly, it would give him the opportunity to wrestle 273 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,559 on an aw show at a forbidden door pay per view, 274 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,320 And I think that would be a good gateway, just 275 00:16:55,399 --> 00:16:57,960 kind of like Osprey, but to a lesser degree, that 276 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,799 would be a good in with the AWR audience. It's like, Oh, 277 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,360 this guy's tearing up New Japan, just like all these 278 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:06,960 other guys who tore up New Japan, like Zach Saber Junior, 279 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:12,599 like you know, Jay Whye, like Osprey, you know, and so, 280 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:20,480 but I don't I don't want to say if he 281 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:23,960 came in to AW right now, his ceiling, his absolute 282 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,119 ceiling for me, would be the T and T title, 283 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:31,200 agreed like, and so I think he could do better 284 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,839 than that potentially. But all of this might really not 285 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,759 matter because again I'm not sure he's actually not on 286 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,920 the roster for WWEY right now, but it's a talking 287 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,839 point people are kind of I did see a post 288 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,119 from Tom Green, not that Tom Green, but the one 289 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,680 who does wrestling videos. Yeah, and he said, uh, he 290 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:56,960 basically to the extent of what if this is all 291 00:17:57,079 --> 00:17:59,400 just some sort of social experiment, like what if there's 292 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,160 what if the rest name Killer Cross doesn't even exist 293 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,400 and we're just like trying to Will him into being 294 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,480 and it's kind of like it's like Killer Cross. Yeah, wait, 295 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,200 who's Killer Cross again? Like you know, it's there's about there. 296 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:16,079 Speaker 5: You But are you gonna waste the work on Killer Cross? 297 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,119 I mean, our truth is loved by everybody. Are you 298 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,839 gonna waste the work on someone who? 299 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,039 Speaker 4: Well, I will say this for him. He does have 300 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,920 a lot of grassroots support among the WWB fan base. 301 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,359 That is true. That is a lot. 302 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,319 Speaker 1: That is very true. Although I did read a report 303 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,759 shade that I think it was on Twitter or x 304 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:37,359 if you want to call it, call it that. I 305 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,920 just can't. I have a target hard time with that. 306 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 But anyway, I did read where there wasn't any we 307 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,000 want Cross chance at RAW on Monday night. 308 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 6: I did hear they were confiscating signs though I. 309 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: Did hear that too, So that's interesting. 310 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:59,279 Speaker 4: Well, let's let's move on to some wrestlers who were 311 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:05,039 actually on the a W roster. Hell yeah, let's talk 312 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:07,079 about let's go to the very top of the card. 313 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:13,160 We've got uh AW World Champion I'm sorry AW Men's 314 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,839 World Champion, Hangman, Adam Paige and CMLL World Champion m 315 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,400 jf on a collision course. What do you guys think 316 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,559 AW needs to do to really push this feud forward 317 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,359 into something we haven't seen before. 318 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,039 Speaker 6: I know, I've been thinking about this since I saw 319 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:37,359 that saw it was going to be a topic on 320 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,240 today's show. What I think is they really need need 321 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:45,079 to lean into the simple fact that Hangman Page and 322 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,559 MGF are two of the most complex characters on the roster. 323 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,519 I think like deep emotional storytelling has pretty much made 324 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:56,799 Hangman Page. That's his bread and butter, alongside with being 325 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:00,480 a kick ass wrestler. But he is totally such a 326 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,440 masterful story that it's gotten everyone behind him despite burning 327 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,079 someone's house down, and they and if they just lean 328 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,359 into that, like keep like they've already got like the 329 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,119 bedrock of a great story that they started telling a 330 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,680 couple months ago with hangm in well, yeah, with Hangman 331 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:25,279 being forgiven by the fans and MGF actually being jealous 332 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,759 because deep down he wants loved by the fans too, 333 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:30,359 but they won't let it give him a pass on anything. 334 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Just yeah, go with that. I'm really excited to see 335 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,440 what they do. 336 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: With Okay, yeah, I can see that. 337 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: Have they announced for sure MJF versus Hangman Antam Paige 338 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960 for Forbidden Door. I don't think they have yet, have 339 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:51,960 they No, I don't think they have. Do you think 340 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,400 that they should do that match Afterbidden Door? 341 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 6: No? 342 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,319 Speaker 1: I don't either. 343 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,039 Speaker 4: No, I don't either. 344 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: I think. 345 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say I think that's an all 346 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,599 out thing. 347 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do. 348 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Kelson, I'm sorry. 349 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: No, I was just gonna say, as Shade said, MGF 350 00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:20,680 is the CMLL World Men's World Champion. It's actually the 351 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:25,599 lightweight champion because I don't think CMO has heavyweights, so 352 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:30,039 her world championship is literally called the World Lightweight Championship. 353 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,240 He's defending that championship Friday night in Arena Mexico against 354 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:41,200 Zendikin Junior. And I don't know if you saw the 355 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:47,400 graphic for the card for that shoe, but it's it's hysterical. 356 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:54,160 I'm sorry, but CMOL needs to get somebody that I 357 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,880 don't know if they were trolling or what, because MJF 358 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,160 on the graphics is a full body picture of m 359 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,799 JFF and Xandikin Jr. On the graphic on the match card, 360 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:10,880 and MGF looks like your typical bored Jewish American. I 361 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:12,839 just do not know a better way to put it. 362 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,640 I'm sorry if it offended somebody, but it is hysterical 363 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,079 and Xandikin looks like his head was chopped off, moved 364 00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:23,920 to his right shoulder and pasted back on. It's hysterical. 365 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:26,799 Speaker 4: I've just I've just posted it in the chat. 366 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: I had a look it. 367 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: I tell me, tell me what I'm telling lies. 368 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, it looks like an AI version 369 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,960 of m JF. I'm not gonna lie. 370 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the prompt post a w former aw World 371 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,759 champion MGF looking pissed off and board at the same time, 372 00:22:49,480 --> 00:23:02,319 and then post uh the challenger Zendikin Jr. Deformed. This 373 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:07,400 is awful because look, you know, people have been saying 374 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,640 that it's gonna maybe be even MGF and Mystico at 375 00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:17,319 Forbidden Door. I don't even think that's gonna happen, because 376 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,319 Arena Mexico was having their ninety second anniversary show after 377 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Forbidden Door, like a week or ten days after that. 378 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,960 I think that's where that's gotta happen, because. 379 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:31,279 Speaker 4: NJF cannot drop that belt to anyone else but Mystico, 380 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,160 and he can't drop it anywhere else but Arena Mexico. 381 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you. If go ahead, what if. 382 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: Hangman beat MJF for that belt because CNLL loved Hangman 383 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,640 and wanted to do some programs with him, and and 384 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000 there after that big Arena show, they loved him. 385 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: So what if he took that belt. 386 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,799 Speaker 5: From him and made him look, you know, and then 387 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480 added that little spice, and then he could be a 388 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:06,839 double champ. I don't mind him being a double champ 389 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,079 because it won't be because CML doesn't do that many shows, 390 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,519 but just use that spice a little bit to piss 391 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:14,960 off MJF. 392 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: And I think you would torpedo that the the MJF 393 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,720 Mystico program if you did that, because that thing is really. 394 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: In my opinion, I don't want to say we've already 395 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,480 seen it. 396 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:27,559 Speaker 6: But. 397 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, one thing that they can 398 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,119 do is have the Mystico and MGF match at the 399 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,480 ninety second anniversary show of CMLL and then run it 400 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:46,440 back a rematch at the next aw pay per view, 401 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,599 where again Mystico will win how Misco win. Tutor. Look, 402 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,039 you can say as much as you want about the 403 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 character of MGF, but I think one thing that he 404 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,359 has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt as he 405 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,920 is a professional and he puts people over. 406 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but you can't get over more than that 407 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:12,039 entrance theme let alone. Uh, Mostiko himself, he's an amazing 408 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:14,119 wrestler and he deserves to be put over. 409 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: I wish he would do more stuff in AW. 410 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean just chime in. So as far 411 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:26,920 as MJF and Hangman go, I think the important thing 412 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,400 will be not to rush things because you are talking 413 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,720 about and I hate to use this example because we 414 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,559 talked about WW so much, but you're basically talking about 415 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,880 the Sena and Orton of this generation of AW. This 416 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000 is gonna This has the potential to be an ongoing, 417 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:50,799 pretty much forever rivalry between two of the freaking cornerstones 418 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,359 of AW. And that's what you want. You want that 419 00:25:54,599 --> 00:26:01,720 you want. You want these these these major characters who 420 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,119 have historical significance to the company, to have this tension 421 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,920 and to have these stories with each other. So that's 422 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880 why I agree they shouldn't meet it forbidden door. Maybe 423 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,160 they shouldn't even meet it all out. I don't know, 424 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:17,960 but all I know is I just don't want to 425 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,440 see him rush it. And I think that's probably my 426 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:21,440 best advice. 427 00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's something that's going to be 428 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,480 a long term thing. I really do think that mister 429 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,440 Cohen MGF is more interesting than MGF hang Manana page 430 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,599 right now. I really do, because it's got the story 431 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,200 behind it. They've not only done this in Mexico, they've 432 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,359 done it in the United States, and they've done it 433 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,440 in different promotions. So, by the way, I missed moder earlier, 434 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,519 I just want to correct myself before I totally forget 435 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960 At Buddy of the Bank, it was Cody Rhodes against 436 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,559 Randy Orton, not John Cena, where I spoke earlier about 437 00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:58,920 it and they danced around and didn't really touch each other. 438 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,119 I just want to make that correct. Go ahead, Shades Well, 439 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,480 I was. 440 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,039 Speaker 4: Just saying, I really I think my respect level for 441 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200 MJF has gone up with the way that he is 442 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,960 willing to go to CMLLL shows, to go to like 443 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,599 MLW shows, to go to these smaller promotions to further 444 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,079 these storylines on the grand scheme of things like would 445 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,680 you would you do you do you see any other? 446 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,920 Do you see WWE talent going to you know an 447 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,599 MLW show for an angle? No an angle no, and 448 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,039 so I really I think you know a lot of 449 00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:38,920 the things that AW is doing, like and I'll talk 450 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,759 about Mercedes Monet also, it's going to these bringing like 451 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,279 recognition and a little bit of notoriety to these other 452 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,359 promotions and maybe you would never even have thought about. 453 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,680 I'm like, oh, that's a there's a there's a Polish indie. 454 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,680 Oh my gosh, you know all Mercedes Monet is their 455 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,519 champion now, like and so you know, speaking of Mercedes 456 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:02,759 Monette and women's wrestlers, I think that's a good way 457 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,359 to dovetail into our next topic, which could get a 458 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,039 little spicy. I know I have a not obvious answer 459 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,799 for this, but I'll start. I'll throw it out to 460 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:16,079 you guys first, who so far is the best women's 461 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,440 wrestler of twenty twenty five. 462 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 5: I have a one that may be a little underrated, 463 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,079 but I'll let somebody else go ahead. They want to, oh, 464 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:30,079 go ahead, I'm gonna say Megan Vain. She's not a champion, 465 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,880 but she's acting like one. She puts on great matches, 466 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,279 she's done great with Penelope Forward, and she looks like 467 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:40,279 a freaking star. I'm waiting to see what pulled out 468 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:43,680 of her more than just tagging with the penelope forward. 469 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,519 Speaker 3: So that's my. 470 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Choice, that's your choice. Yeah, any you have like a secondary, 471 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,119 like more mainstream chorice, like a choice that would be 472 00:28:52,160 --> 00:29:00,119 more expected, more expected, Yeah, you know, like the names 473 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,599 like that at the top of the cards, of the 474 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,839 top of the top tiers, and the different promotions. 475 00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: A very good promo, and she's a very good wrestler. Okay, 476 00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,079 she's doing her thing Ring of Honor, but I want 477 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:16,359 to see her eventually get away. 478 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: From Ring of Honor. 479 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,839 Speaker 6: I think I'm going to have to go with maybe 480 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,079 this is the obvious choice, but Tony Storm. 481 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty good choice. I think that's a 482 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:33,559 I think that's a safe choice. Is there any particular reason, 483 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Jess though, why you're gonna say why you're saying Tony. 484 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 6: Storm, Well, not only is she talented in the ring, 485 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,519 she took a gimmick. And I think I mentioned this 486 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,799 like last week of the week before. I don't know 487 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,519 if anybody could have possibly gotten or expected this gimmick 488 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:52,920 to get as much mileage as she has with it. 489 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,519 Like at this point, I can't really imagine her doing 490 00:29:55,559 --> 00:30:00,519 anything else, like, oh, she's an old tiny alm star 491 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000 that's gonna last like a couple of months. No, she's 492 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:09,119 amazing at it. It's great, she's entertaining, she's engaging. 493 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you're to get 494 00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:13,000 any arguments about that. 495 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:14,799 Speaker 3: Believe me a little bit. 496 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:15,759 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 497 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,559 Speaker 4: What about you, Kelson? Who's your best women's wrestler. 498 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: For twenty twenty five? She actually, as I'm saying this, 499 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,559 two days ago, she lost her first singles match in 500 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:35,599 over a year. But I'm going to say Saya Kamatani. 501 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,680 I do believe that she has a couple of things 502 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,759 working for her that other wrestlers do not. Number one 503 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:49,000 is that her presentation is just fantastic and she's a 504 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,599 great wrestler on top of that. But more importantly, she's 505 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,119 the hardest working wrestler I've I mean, I think since 506 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,319 I believe she's wrestled well over fifty matches this year, 507 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,200 no other wrestler in Megan Baye Tony Storm have even 508 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:16,319 come close to that. So I appreciate the work rate 509 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,720 and every one of her matches is great. And if 510 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,559 you haven't seen it, I believe, start and put it 511 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,960 up on their YouTube channel. From April twenty seventh. I 512 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:31,000 believe it was the career versus career match, Saya Kamatani 513 00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:35,880 versus tam Nakano. You talk about a perfect match, from 514 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,279 the entrances to the match itself to the ending. It 515 00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:40,960 was the main event of the pay per view. The 516 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,240 way to pay per view ended was stunning. Go watch it. 517 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: What about you, Shades, Well, I'm gonna come out of 518 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,799 left field a little bit, but maybe not quite so 519 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,519 far out of left field. For my money, the best 520 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,519 women's or so far this year it's Techla because she 521 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:12,160 has made an immediate impact in aw she I'm gonna 522 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,720 tell you, I get on Blue Sky, I get on 523 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,720 social media, people are posting about here, They're doing artwork 524 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,799 about her. Techla has connected with this audience in a 525 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,960 way that few, certainly few women coming in from outside 526 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:33,319 have And I think she has the potential to go 527 00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,400 as far as they want to take her. And if 528 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 she were the one to beat Tony Storm, I wouldn't 529 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,720 shed a tear at all. I think I think the 530 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,279 sky is the limit for Tecla. Now, I don't think 531 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,880 she'll be the one to do that, but you know 532 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,039 they I think Julia and sky Blue being with her 533 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,720 is great, but ultimately, Tecla is the star like she's 534 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,640 she is the hot you know, the hot stuff in 535 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160 the women's division right now, and I don't think that's 536 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,440 going to change anytime soon. 537 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Page did you? Did you watch Tecla before she came 538 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,599 to AW No? 539 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 4: I hadn't. That's why. That's why I'm saying Techla now 540 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:17,720 because her arrival and the way that she's been presented 541 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,640 and the way that she's sort of just taken this 542 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,519 division by the Horns makes me think, Man, I need 543 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,599 to go back and watch Techla stuff. I need to 544 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:27,839 go see more of her. 545 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, watch her last match and I do believe it's 546 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:35,599 also on YouTube. Techla's match. Last match. Oh, I can't 547 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,559 remember who was against was against somebody in Consonant Cosmic Angels. 548 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,799 I can't remember who it was, so you curs. I 549 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:48,519 can't remember. But anyway, that was a big stipulation match aades. 550 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:54,920 It was really entertaining watch her battles with NAT's a 551 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,440 ploy star, like I mean, she's Techla in in Ardam 552 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,240 was her, she was the toxic Spider. But when she 553 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:10,039 came back to stardom in early twenty twenty four. She 554 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,920 presented herself as the idol killer and her goal was 555 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,159 to basically destroy all these girls, which is using her 556 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:23,320 words here, these girls with the cute, little, fake little 557 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,639 voices that tried to make all the perverts like them. 558 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,519 That was her goal and that's what she went after 559 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,559 and that's what she did. And of course she ended 560 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:39,599 up getting into a battle with Tero Ocatta, who's the president, 561 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,719 that's Startom's Tony Kahan, and kicked the shit out of 562 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,320 him and got herself fired, and that's how she ended 563 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960 up in aw. I mean, it's a really interesting story. 564 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,360 The only thing about you will find difficult on shades 565 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,280 is when you watch Tekla in stardom. She was clearly 566 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,679 not a top star and start she was a mid 567 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:10,079 carter and so she went out on her back put 568 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:14,880 it that way. So, yeah, she was not and and 569 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,000 do yourself a favor watch her promos because that's where 570 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,719 she really shined because she did them in English. And 571 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,679 she is one of the most foul mouth human beings 572 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,840 I've ever heard of my life. They nobody, there is 573 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:33,960 no way that that's one of the things that you know, 574 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,239 look at all these startup girls are very cute and 575 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,960 adorable and stuff. But they are foul mouthed. I mean 576 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:43,320 they get away with more bad language by far than 577 00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:49,280 WWE and AW ever did combine w WCW two. I mean, 578 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,480 there was one basically press conference. I've talked about it before. 579 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,480 Look it up. It's Tecla and NAT's a poy where 580 00:35:57,519 --> 00:35:59,400 they just stood in front of each other and said 581 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480 f you to each other over and over again. That 582 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,880 was it. That was the whole promo. So they just 583 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,760 stood there face to face and just said f you 584 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,079 for about forty five seconds back and forth to each other. 585 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,519 That was it. And Juliet Carrie saying we're in the 586 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:17,960 background just like squirming was It was great. Yeah, but tech, 587 00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,840 that's an interesting choice. Anybody else have other you know, 588 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,000 other people they want to bring up, is like maybe 589 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,239 uh secondary, you know, people that should have recognition and 590 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,960 could possibly be like anybody. 591 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 6: Well, once upon a time, my choice would have been, like, 592 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,400 I mean, I haven't seen her work lately because I 593 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,199 don't watch WWE pretty much at all anymore, but I 594 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,559 would have said, Oscar, once upon a time I loved her, 595 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:48,199 I still do. 596 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know what when you look at the 597 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,639 uh Greatness of Wrestling Subreddit, it's very very clear that 598 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,639 the favorite of at least to me, it's clear that 599 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,760 the favorite to get the Greatest Wrestling Subreddit on w 600 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,199 w e's roster is EO Sky as far as the 601 00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:15,880 best women's wrestler on the on their roster. So what 602 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,000 about Mercedes Monette? How do you rank her in that 603 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:27,960 in this conversation? Did she there's top five? You know? 604 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,800 But you know, it's difficult to talk about Starry because 605 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,679 I'm a big starting fan. But whenever you have this conversation, 606 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,119 and we had this conversation at the great Nest Wrestling Subreddit, 607 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,800 and people agreed that Saya Kamatani is tops. But if 608 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,440 there's one wrestler that could possibly topple her, it would 609 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,440 be Sire. And that's somebody else that you should look 610 00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:59,000 into Shades if you're if you want to get into 611 00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:03,119 UH to just start him, look up Seria and Saya 612 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:10,320 Kamatani and Starlight. But they have phenomenal wrestlers in And 613 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,159 I forget who it was, but there was somebody at 614 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:16,239 our discord that said, oh no, it was somebody who 615 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,360 was a moderator at the Greatness Arrestling subreddit that was 616 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360 talking Max. He used to talk, you know, used to 617 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,119 podcast with us here every once in a while. He's 618 00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,480 really gotten in the start and he's totally addicted. He's like, you, 619 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,199 you know these girls can go and they can't. So 620 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,760 what do we want to talk about next? You know 621 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,159 what this was? MK? You know, I'll let MK announce 622 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,320 this next one because this one was actually his idea. 623 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,039 So and he's start bringing this up a few times, 624 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:47,880 So go ahead, MK. 625 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,639 Speaker 5: I have look, I think they I think AW has 626 00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,679 been around long enough and a lot of people AW 627 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,679 is gaining speed. A lot of ww ants are tired 628 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,039 of the product and they want to catch up. Well, 629 00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,320 there's no way to catch up unless you go through 630 00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,679 long when did you know? You catch up through all 631 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,960 the old stuff? And pay per views are on there 632 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,840 and that's great, but people don't want to take that time. 633 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,679 WW knows something right with videos or they used to. 634 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,559 I haven't watched it a long time, but they need 635 00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:24,119 to do some type of documentary or something that basically 636 00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,840 shows what they've been through, who started and stuff like that. 637 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,880 I know you can't have Cody Roads in there anymore, 638 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,639 but you could have them talk about the Greatest Matches 639 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,079 and stuff like that and show you show quick clips 640 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,159 or or something for people to get a feel of 641 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,599 what aw is. 642 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: In a nutshell, they are, I, well, it's not a documentary, 643 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,960 but I coming out this sometimes fall I know because 644 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,679 I just looked at it today, because I'm. 645 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 6: Planning on pre ordering it. Is this book is All Elite, 646 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960 which is a book, and I'm sure they'll have it 647 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,320 audiobook form as well. 648 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 4: I think a good thing. What my suggestion would be, 649 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:14,079 I think they should take some of their major stories 650 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,400 and sort of condense them and do YouTube videos. Like 651 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,280 you could have the story of Hangman Page and swer 652 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920 of Strickland and have it be sort of a documentary 653 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,320 style YouTube video, and or the story of MJF and 654 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,920 Adam Cole, or the story of the Elite, and you 655 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:38,159 know what I'm saying, take these sort of really formational stories, right, Sorry, 656 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,519 go ahead, but just do a separate video for each 657 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,199 of them so people can be like, oh, I want 658 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,679 to know why you know, people that there's all this 659 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,039 like stuff between Hayman and Swerve. Oh, I can go 660 00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:54,079 watch and see how this all happened. Right, So people 661 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,239 can sort of pick and choose what they're into you know, yeah. 662 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,599 Speaker 1: Well you know shades. It's interesting you said that because 663 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,760 you know there is a video about this timeline, the 664 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,480 entire timeline of Hangman Adam Pagents. We're strictly and the 665 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,559 only problem is that this is where your point is 666 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,480 excellent is that it's not condensed. It's the full thing. 667 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,239 So you're looking at like what three three and a 668 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,079 half hours or something like that. I've seen videos today 669 00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,599 aw done on YouTube. Then you pretty much got to 670 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,239 take a day off to watch. 671 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: See. What I would do is I would take some 672 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,800 highlights from it, and I always have somebody like Excalibur and 673 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,800 Taz and Tony about his shit, sit down and do 674 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,239 you like these interviews and have them interject and it's 675 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,079 like they'll there'll be a thing and then Excalibur will say, 676 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,760 you know, we couldn't believe what we were seeing when 677 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,880 he was house. 678 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: I love that idea. I love it. 679 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,599 Speaker 5: There used to be a guy on YouTube if I 680 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:57,039 remember if as like Tranquilo Club or something like that. 681 00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 3: Who. 682 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 5: Who did video like short maybe ten to fifteen minute 683 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400 videos of stuff like that connecting thing and stuff like that, and. 684 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 3: He did a great job. 685 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,119 Speaker 5: But if you have to Shake's point, if you had 686 00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,199 some like Jim Ross, who's great at M reviewing and 687 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:13,440 he's losing a step in commentary, he could tell a 688 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,480 story because he's been there almost from day one, I believe, And. 689 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,559 Speaker 4: Go ahead, just have him interject some comments like these 690 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:27,800 are two men who despised each other, like and just 691 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,000 you know, these little outside sort of comments to sort 692 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,119 of and. 693 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: Then show a video showing why they despised each other exactly, 694 00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:39,679 instead of showing an entire match and entire promos, you don't, 695 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,360 you can do cliff notes versions. Yeah, I love it. 696 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 4: And then if people want to watch the whole match, 697 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,599 they can, you know, they can get on Max and 698 00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,440 they can go back to that pay per view and 699 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,519 they can watch the whole match. 700 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,519 Speaker 1: Put a link on the video saying this is where 701 00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,159 you can go watch this match. This is where you 702 00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,119 can go watch that match. Why not it's online. 703 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 4: It also would drive people to Max, which would up 704 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,039 your subscriber. I'd say, I knew. Somebody comes in and 705 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:11,360 they watch a condensed Hangman versus Swerve timeline and then like, man, 706 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,679 I've got to see that Texas Death match. And so 707 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000 then they get Max. They go subscribe so they can 708 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:17,719 go watch that pay per view where they had their 709 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,800 Texas death match. You know what I'm saying. 710 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like the idea of the Cliff does 711 00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,800 think because most people are into instant gratification, they don't 712 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,159 want to spend four hours watching something that they can 713 00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:36,599 watch in three and a half minutes. Makes sense. 714 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 4: Well, I guess we'll open it up for potpourri. Now, 715 00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:43,239 anybody have anything they want to throw into the box? 716 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: Anyone? Not this time? Not this time? Well I will 717 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,960 go if you know. I brought this up earlier. But 718 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,239 look a w when they do their pay per views, 719 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,599 basically the only advertisement that they have is DraftKings. Am 720 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:06,440 I right? Or am I wrong? I mean they have 721 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,679 a DraftKings commercial on every pay per view that takes 722 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,400 about thirty five seconds, you know, and that's about it. 723 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,760 And that's it, you know. But afterward, after they do 724 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,599 the pay per view, what they're doing the media scrum, 725 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:25,119 why not put whatever Tony Khan is drinking, whether it's Starbucks, 726 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,440 Tim Horton's Dunkin Donuts or you know, Jack Daniels. I 727 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,800 don't know what the hell he has in that cup, 728 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,639 but he presents it like it's if you look at it. 729 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,880 He holds the cup in the same way every time, 730 00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:41,400 like it's got a brand on it. Can you imagine 731 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:46,599 how much money that AW could probably make just on 732 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,119 branding on Tony Khan's coffee cup or whatever he's drinking. 733 00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 4: I think one of the things that works against AW 734 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,480 is because they are so violent, and because they have 735 00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:00,840 such graphic matches. Sometimes I think it probably makes some 736 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,119 sponsors inert, like queasy to be associated with it. I'll 737 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,119 just be very honest with you. 738 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,639 Speaker 1: Jack Daniels. Put Jack Daniels on it. They can't complain. 739 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,159 Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, exactly. 740 00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:13,039 Speaker 1: He could be drinking coffee. They don't have to know, 741 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,000 Jack Daniels. 742 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 6: It's for the sickos. 743 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,039 Speaker 1: You've never seen Tony Kahan without a cap. He just 744 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:24,280 did a He just did an interview for My Mom's 745 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,239 Basement that was like an hour long, and he held 746 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,199 that freaking cup the entire video. I watched the whole 747 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,760 damn thing. I was like, put the sucker down. He 748 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,960 was holding it up, and he's not just holding it 749 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,199 in his hand, He's holding it up like at chin level. 750 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:45,239 Who does that? Well, Tony Kahn, He's a walking billboard 751 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,039 with nothing on it. 752 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 3: That's true. 753 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 4: I'll uh, I'll just bring up something really quick. Today 754 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,880 or Tuesday, when we're recording this, the news broke that 755 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:04,519 at AW has re signed Daddy Magic Matt Minard to 756 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,880 a long term deal. And I cannot tell you how 757 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,840 good I think that is. Because Matt Minard, He's never 758 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,079 gonna be a main event wrestler, he's never gonna hold 759 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,519 a title, but he is a guy you can plug 760 00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,920 into so many different spots. He can work in the ring, 761 00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,679 he could be a manager, he can do commentary, he 762 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,000 can do backstage segments, he's on commercials. Like this is 763 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:26,599 a guy that no matter where you put him, he 764 00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:31,440 gives maximum effort and the fans like him. And I 765 00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:36,280 think you, honestly, I'm gonna bring a comparison. Daddy Magic 766 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,840 could be like the ur truth of ww or AW, 767 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,960 like he can buy you know, and like he's just 768 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,960 a guy that like you don't want too much of him, 769 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,440 but you bring him out every once in a while 770 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,760 and you let him do his thing, or you put 771 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,559 him backstage and let him talk to people, or you 772 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,639 let him manage Daniel Garcia and people eat it up. 773 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,840 I think I am. I could not be happier that 774 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,320 he is staying with aw. 775 00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, my nipples are hard. I don't know about anybody else's, 776 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,800 but I will say this shades if they use him 777 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,119 on commentary. He's great on commentary, except for when he's 778 00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,159 doing a Daniel Garcia match because I agree. Look, he 779 00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,280 should come out to the to the announcer's table wearing 780 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,559 one Julia Hart's old cheerleader outfits because that's all he does. 781 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,800 Come on, Danny, Come on, Danny, my nipples are hard. 782 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,880 Come on, Danny. You know that's all he does is 783 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,760 is cheer on. Danny doesn't really do commentary, and it great. 784 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,480 I'm not gonna lie to he. It greats on me. 785 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:37,000 It does. 786 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 6: Is ianje ever coming back? I know he cool hand 787 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,760 and his partner. 788 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,159 Speaker 1: He actually did return for a brief period of time. 789 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,199 I know that Ruby Soho is training, and I think 790 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:59,800 because she's training, maybe Angelo Parker is maybe doing some 791 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:06,000 baby watching. I'm dad duty, but I believe Angela Parker 792 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000 has had a couple of matches in the last couple 793 00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:10,119 of months. 794 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,159 Speaker 6: Oh very cool. I like him too. 795 00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 3: I like him a little satty magic, but that's just me. 796 00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 4: I would love to see two point oh get a run. 797 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,639 I'm not. I'm not even joking, like even if it's 798 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:25,639 just ring of honor, Like I think number one, their 799 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,840 theme song is so damn good and also like they're 800 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,719 just like I think there's there's just untapped potential there. 801 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,480 But I mean, obviously I don't think they're gonna be 802 00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,039 like going against the Hurt Syndicate or anything like. 803 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: That, right but right, Look, I posted the the Matt 804 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,920 Monard re signing a long term deal on the aw 805 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:48,880 fan hub sabreddit, and I was shocked at the responses. 806 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,079 I really didn't think. I didn't think there would be 807 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,199 negative responses, but we got a lot of responses to that, 808 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,960 and people were like, we're picked fans at two point oh. 809 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,480 We like Matt Man. I didn't think that he was 810 00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:05,679 as well liked as he actually is, so that was 811 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,800 kind of surprising to me. 812 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 4: I think he throws all of himself into his Daddy 813 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,960 Magic character, and people appreciate that. 814 00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: Boy, he certainly does. I mean, he's a very uh 815 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,079 uh you know, you know, you cut diamonds with those things, 816 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,559 and it is me he gives. 817 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 4: You sometimes all you got to do sometimes that you 818 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,199 gotta do is just be willing to commit to the 819 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,039 bit and and you can get over. 820 00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:41,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, anybody else with a pot pourri, I guess 821 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:42,599 I have something worth mentioning. 822 00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 6: Okay, I may be late to the party here. It's 823 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,559 new to me because it just came across my feed 824 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:56,800 today at work. Adam Blomcia it has his own channel now, 825 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,280 after pretty much getting blacklisted from every other wrestling news channel, 826 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,679 he just like decided to make his own with Blackjack 827 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,239 and Hookers. 828 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 4: I guess I don't know who that is, Oh my god, 829 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,920 Adam Blompier. Okay. So Adam Blompier started with What Culture, okay, 830 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,559 and he and all those like some of the original 831 00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:24,519 sort of him and Adam Pacitti and you know, couple 832 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,079 of King Ross and a couple of other guys. They 833 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,719 all left and started Cult to Hollic. Well, shortly after 834 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,639 they started Cult to Hollic, it came out that Adam 835 00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:40,039 Blompier was soliciting nudes from like fans, and so he 836 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,239 got fired from Cult to Hollick. And he stayed gone 837 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,880 for a little while, and then he came back. Who 838 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880 was he doing it with, Jess? I think it was 839 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,039 wrestle Talk that's right. And I don't know why did 840 00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:53,320 he get the boot from Wrestle Talk. 841 00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 6: I think something of a similar nature came up, Honestly, 842 00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,119 I can't. It was a while ago. I can't remember 843 00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:06,559 the details that I'm pretty sure it was another thing involving, 844 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,400 you know, creeping on a. 845 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:18,519 Speaker 1: Girl goes it's like the bits man of broadcasters. 846 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,199 Speaker 4: No, it's yeah, he has this sort of accusation levied 847 00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,519 against him. So I'm trying to not I don't want 848 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,840 to dwell too long on it. But the sad thing is, 849 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,480 I kind of he's entertaining, but like, I don't want 850 00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:38,519 to continue. I don't want to give him views if 851 00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:40,719 he's going to be like using whatever status he gets 852 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,239 to try to like creep on women, you know, especially 853 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,559 I mean, I don't know if any of these accusations 854 00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:51,440 were involved underage women, but like girls, I guess let's 855 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,039 just call him with their underage girls. But uh, you know, 856 00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:02,039 there's always that possibility. But so Adam Blancier back in, 857 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,920 I guess you just can't. You just can't get rid 858 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,400 of some people. They're like cockroaches. 859 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:12,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well we'll speaking of accusations, Joey Ryan tried 860 00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:14,079 to get back and wrestling, and he got booted quickly, 861 00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,159 so oh god, that was fast. 862 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 4: They actually started another promotion started. Uh, they were going 863 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,159 to run a show the same night called f JR 864 00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:31,440 for f Joey Ryan basically, and uh, I almost wish 865 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,000 they hadn't pulled him from the show, just because I 866 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,960 think the f JR show would have been so much 867 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,719 more well attended than his show. And I would have 868 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,679 loved to have seen that. 869 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: It's weird. It's just weird. 870 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 4: I meant, making his return and we've got Joey Ryan. 871 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,440 I'm just waiting for Marty Scroll to come out of 872 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,800 the would work at some point. 873 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: I look at it. I mean, look when the brock 874 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,039 Westerner came out, I mean iheard ww fans were, you know, 875 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,360 very vocal in their disappointment. They really were. And it 876 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,239 wasn't because he's old and that he's a part timer. 877 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,719 It's because it's embarrassing now to somebody that's created you know, 878 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:23,199 you know, I agree, it's it's getting hard to watch 879 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,960 w W E A. To MJ's point when he was 880 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:33,440 talking about AW making documentaries or documentary documentary or documentaries 881 00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,159 to help new fans, I'm seeing it all over the 882 00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,239 internet where hey, I'm a WW fan and I want 883 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,960 to get into AW. What can I do exactly? 884 00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 4: You know, multiple posts on Reddit, I've seen multiple social 885 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,840 media posts to that effect. So I think AW needs 886 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000 to really think about what they can do to capitalize 887 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,039 on this and this sentiment right now, because the iron 888 00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:55,519 is hot. 889 00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you look at it, last week 890 00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,960 got all nearly one hundred thousand more viewers than the 891 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,199 week before. It was the second highest total this this year. 892 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:13,440 Sure it's not. And we're only talking about TV, not 893 00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,239 Max included. And I don't want to get into the 894 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,639 MAX thing because people they a while ago back at 895 00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:24,199 I think it was February, maybe it was early March, 896 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,320 they came out that and said that the average viewer 897 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:34,039 viewership on MAX is about five hundred k, give or 898 00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:37,199 take all. Right, well, keep in mind that that was 899 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,960 five hundred k. That's great, But you can't just say, oh, 900 00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,360 AW did seven hundred on TV at five hundred k 901 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,599 to that they did one point two million. That is 902 00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:53,039 not how it works. That is not Sometimes it will 903 00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,920 go up, sometimes it will go down. But you can't 904 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,159 just add a number that you made up in your 905 00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,400 head or go in February twenty twenty five and apply 906 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,960 it for August twenty twenty five. That is not how 907 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,960 it works. 908 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,119 Speaker 4: No, but I think it probably is reasonable to conclude 909 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,440 that between cable and streaming, AW probably hovers somewhere between 910 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,760 eight hundred and fifty to nine hundred thousand every week. 911 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,320 I would say that's probably a reasonable conservative number. 912 00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: You know, I think you're right, and I think that 913 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,159 I you know, I respect that decision. I mean that 914 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,599 I respect that number that you said. But you said 915 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:38,039 I think it's reasonable. You didn't say I know it is. 916 00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,679 There are people that say, I know that they made 917 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,880 they got one point too, because they get seven hundred 918 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,639 thousand on TV and they automatically add the five hundred 919 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,199 k for Max. That's not all. 920 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,519 Speaker 4: Everyone's suddenly an expert on you know, television ratings and 921 00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:51,880 everything you know on the internet. 922 00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: So everybody's a meltzer. 923 00:55:56,599 --> 00:56:01,559 Speaker 4: Well, now that we've really covered everything, I think that's 924 00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:02,079 about it. 925 00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:08,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll be back tomorrow night after Dynamite, right 926 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:12,880 after Dynamite in the AET channel on Discord for our 927 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,280 AW Dynamite review. Also make sure you do the live 928 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,800 chat with us on the AW fan hubsub reddit had 929 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,960 on the wrestling Hub discord. The links will be in 930 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,760 the description of this podcast. Thank you guys for coming. 931 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 4: This is Kelson and this just shades the vibe. Good 932 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,840 night Eddie Kingston. Please shave your beard. 933 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 1: Got that beard? Oh my god, I just see Chicken. 934 00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:42,639 I don't know why I see Chicken just stuck to 935 00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:49,639 his beard all the time in my mind. Uh yeah, 936 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,239 good night everybody.