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<v Speaker 1>Hi, This is Charles Probot from Boca Raton, Florida, and

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<v Speaker 1>I play at the Boca Ratone Resort and Club.

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<v Speaker 2>This is called.

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<v Speaker 1>Smarter Number ninety eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Joy the podcast. If you go to ask a touring

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<v Speaker 2>pro do you misread greens that cause miss putts? Their

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<v Speaker 2>typical answer is going to be occasionally, but not often,

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<v Speaker 2>And then other pros will reply, you know, I never

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<v Speaker 2>miss reading green because I work harder than all others.

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<v Speaker 2>That translation to that answer is I memorized each putt

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<v Speaker 2>for each tournament four days times four pin placements, times

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<v Speaker 2>four directions times eighteen holes. So there's some brainwashing that

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<v Speaker 2>goes on into their head, this kind of green reading

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<v Speaker 2>brainwashing that continues to this day. And frankly, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>blame the tour pro for succumbing to this brainwashing since

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<v Speaker 2>you're standing over putts with zero confidence. If you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have confidence in your green read, that will affect your

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<v Speaker 2>putting stroke negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Egos. The Expert green Reading operating system that's based in

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<v Speaker 1>math with surveyor Andrew Walters. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,

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<v Speaker 1>tips and insights from great golf minds to help you

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<v Speaker 1>lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Fred Green.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, great to be here, Fred.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, you're the first episode of our twentieth year. We've

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<v Speaker 1>just completed nineteen years of the podcast. Wow, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is our first one. Yeah, so nine and eighty and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when they were doing podcasts that far back.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the problem nobody did. But I love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk talking about all the way back. I've always loved

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about putting because there's always one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>we can learn. And I think the most important thing

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<v Speaker 1>is they don't all drop, no matter how good you are,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't all drop, right, or do they?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would argue with that it was ten feet

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<v Speaker 2>that should all drop, especially for a tour pro because

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<v Speaker 2>they're the best of the cream of the crop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the percentage of even the tour pros from

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet is what about fifty percent?

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, Fred, that's all going to change? Why

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<v Speaker 2>Because Egos Expert Green Reading operating system is pure math.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it's infallible in a sense that if you

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<v Speaker 2>do something wrong, it can be corrected. And tour pros

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<v Speaker 2>take two thousand green reads around in a season, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what the book and other things I said. And

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<v Speaker 2>you can imagine how much expertise they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>with that many green reads, and how good they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get. And if they ever have a problem, they

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<v Speaker 2>just give me a holler and then we go to

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<v Speaker 2>that exact spot and I'll show them what they did wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's math based, math pace.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that your background is the math based not

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<v Speaker 1>the golf base.

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<v Speaker 2>Exact side of it exactly? Well, of course they intertwine. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>my background is where, Oh I had this eight foot

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<v Speaker 2>putt that I had money on. You know, they had

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<v Speaker 2>a five dollars nassau. I make it. I went twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars eats, money for the kids and all that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff. Now I've had this putt. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been playing this eighteenth green for fifteen years and

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<v Speaker 2>I had said, oh, that's going to do a little

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<v Speaker 2>slight left break and I hit it and it fell

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<v Speaker 2>off the table like it broke like it broke off

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<v Speaker 2>the table to the right, and I go, whoa, So

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<v Speaker 2>I walk off the green. I'm all mad. We'll find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to teach me green reading expert green reading, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>who would that be? Somebody that knows topography, land contours, maps,

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<v Speaker 2>ground ground slope. While beinging to realize as a civil engineer,

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<v Speaker 2>professional engineer, that's what we start with every project that

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<v Speaker 2>we start, A bridge, a building, a road, it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all ground slopes and all of that. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>began to realize I was the expert. So I sat

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<v Speaker 2>down and I figured it out. And I haven't misread

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<v Speaker 2>a green since.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well, oh, so you say you were the expert

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<v Speaker 1>because you are a civil engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. Absolutely, you apply math to projects to fix it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a professional civil engineer. Okay, So, and so.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get rid of this myth immediately if

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<v Speaker 1>in fact it is a myth or it's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is everyone says, oh it always breaks to

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, Oh it always breaks to the mountains. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>is that or is it just you know? From what

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned in talking to golf course architects, they tell me, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it breaks. It's irrigation. It's all about irrigation, and it

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<v Speaker 1>breaks to where the water is going to flow.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. All one hundred percent nonsense. Matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>teach that you completely ignore any of that stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want outside influences to bother what you do, getting

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<v Speaker 2>the exact break in front of you. So architects. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time you know the the drain flow

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<v Speaker 2>of a green is going to be from a mountain

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<v Speaker 2>to an ocean, but not all the time. So so

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<v Speaker 2>it's just total myth. Matter of fact, I found most

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<v Speaker 2>of all of green reading is voodoo nowadays. You know

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<v Speaker 2>there there are there are basically four types of green reading,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and all of them don't work. And you

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<v Speaker 2>can see it on TV all the time. And these

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<v Speaker 2>are the professionals speece all the best. And the four

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<v Speaker 2>types of green reading is one is staring. You walk

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<v Speaker 2>all around it, you look at it. But that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>what causes the problem. Optical illusions are the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>you would ever missread a green period. Optical illusions and

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<v Speaker 2>staring is the actual cause of the problem. The other

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<v Speaker 2>way to read a green is somewhat common these days

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<v Speaker 2>is foot field well, foot feeling. It doesn't work. It's

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<v Speaker 2>no math behind it. And the you know I can

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<v Speaker 2>say that is because you go find an algebra book,

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<v Speaker 2>a trig book, a calculus book. Nowhere are you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to find in there a chapter on feeling. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not going to happen. And then there's map contours, which

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<v Speaker 2>have been banned anyway, so math contours are and then

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<v Speaker 2>again they have no math either that untrained person can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other way is memorization. So if you memorize,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you you have if your tour pro you

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<v Speaker 2>have four tournaments, I mean four days of a tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>four sides of the green, different distances and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and and basically it becomes unless you're rain Man or something,

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes untenable. So you know. So anyway, all four

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<v Speaker 2>of those ways don't produce any results that egos can

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<v Speaker 2>do because they have no math. They have you just

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it. So we're still in the primitive age

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<v Speaker 2>of green reading until of course this comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and how long have you been practicing egos and egos?

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<v Speaker 1>We should just make clarify what your system is, the

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<v Speaker 1>expert green reading operating system.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing it since nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so and you haven't. You haven't missed a read since.

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct, except except for when I make an

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<v Speaker 2>error myself. You know, I don't. I don't play as

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<v Speaker 2>often as I used to. So then I got to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and see what I did, what I what

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<v Speaker 2>I missed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, So that then we're then we're just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>distance control.

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<v Speaker 2>And speak control. The two or a perfect late read

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<v Speaker 2>is for a put that. Yeah, a perfect aim line

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<v Speaker 2>is a putt that goes in at the speed that

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<v Speaker 2>you want it to go in. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>diet in the hole? Do you want to ram it

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<v Speaker 2>into the hole? Or do you want to have it

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<v Speaker 2>if it has a cellophane top on top of it,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd go twelve inches past. So speed and aim and

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<v Speaker 2>are tied together. They're married together. So EGOS will give

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<v Speaker 2>you that exact line for any way you want to

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<v Speaker 2>hold the putt. And it's all done on calibration at

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<v Speaker 2>the practice screen, which is detailed in my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh, and again tell everyone the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>book so we can find it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not remember the name?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, come on Math and Analysis Green Rating Methodology on

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<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour today and tomorrow veos.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it available exactly, and I'll put that in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. And what is it available on Amazon or wherever?

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<v Speaker 1>Get books?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Amazon, Amazon, Kindle and it's twenty seven books for

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime skill.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to say, yeah, well, then that's a worthwhile investment,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, especially if your frustration is there and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has room to become a better putter. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about the hardware all we want, but

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<v Speaker 1>until you learn how to read a green, it really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what the hardware is. Sometimes that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't read the green read properly, you're putting

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<v Speaker 2>stroke matters not right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that would be where you start, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you can get on the starting line that you intend.

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<v Speaker 2>At the speed you intend.

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<v Speaker 1>At the speed the line and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Speed speed because they are married together. And my contention

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<v Speaker 2>is tour pros one hundred and fifty five t off

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<v Speaker 2>every weekend and they're the best in the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's my contention that those tour pros can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They can hit the ball where they want to at

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<v Speaker 2>the speed they want to all the time, or they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be the top one fifty five in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy, tell me about the people that you've worked with.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been working with PGA tour pros or college

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<v Speaker 1>players or corn fairy? You know, the guys trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get their way up to the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question, and it's a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a long answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And taking time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have talked to a bunch of people about it,

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<v Speaker 2>including some teachers and stuff like that. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>finding is that there is a tremendous bias out there

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<v Speaker 2>about green reading, and when you present something that you

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<v Speaker 2>say is going to work, there's a tendency that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe it. But I've done it to some tour

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<v Speaker 2>pro teachers, doesn't matter if I name maybe Derek u

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<v Speaker 2>Wada and you know he absolutely gets it and loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one is Blair Philip another work with Barney Adams

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<v Speaker 2>and you So I've get some X tour pros that

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<v Speaker 2>just absolutely get it because again they're mathematically inclined. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you go if you go to ask a touring pro,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, you know, do you misread greens that cause

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<v Speaker 2>miss putts? And you know their typical answer is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be occasionally but not often, all right, And then

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<v Speaker 2>other pros will will reply, you know I never misread

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<v Speaker 2>because I work harder than all others. Well, it took

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<v Speaker 2>a while, but that translation to that answer is I

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<v Speaker 2>memorized each put for each tournament four days times four

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<v Speaker 2>pin placements, times four directions times eighteen holes. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>some brainwashing that goes on into their head, and I

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<v Speaker 2>call it this kind of green reading brainwashing that continues

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<v Speaker 2>to this day. And frankly, I don't blame the tour

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<v Speaker 2>pro for succumbing to this brainwashing since you're standing over

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<v Speaker 2>putts with zero confidence. If you don't have confidence in

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<v Speaker 2>your green read that that will affect your putting stroke negatively.

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<v Speaker 2>So that brainwashing is there. So I have that bias

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<v Speaker 2>and thank me, as did Blair, Philip and a couple

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<v Speaker 2>other gentlemen that I know of, because they just get it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's I guess back to your question. Yeah, I have,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately most young expiring collegiates and everything, and even

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<v Speaker 2>it's an incredible bias that I had no idea existed

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've had I've come across that so much myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently went, yeah, I in a sense that you

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<v Speaker 1>know here as we talked about this. I've interviewed hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>every week, and I start sharing some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned, They're like, Nah, yeah, no, doesn't exist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong. I don't see it. So I get I

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes too. That's why I pretty much just like to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I again, the people with mathematical privity. I've developed

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<v Speaker 2>a putter that you use with the system. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>surveying instrument putter, and I've sold five hundred of those

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<v Speaker 2>putters worldwide, all right, So they're people that get it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just unfortunately I don't have anybody on the

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm totally convinced if I can get somebody out there,

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<v Speaker 2>sevens or maybe even lower, which is always top five.

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<v Speaker 2>And from there, I'm convinced it's going to go viral.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially a tour pro because he's, as I explain

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<v Speaker 2>in my book and all, he's going to get ten

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<v Speaker 2>now with using egos, especially with taking two thousand egos

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<v Speaker 2>Green reads in this season, how expert he's going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing is, you know what, even

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<v Speaker 2>if a tour pro doesn't even want to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't see John Daily doing doing this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see Bubb Watson do it, So why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you just tell you caddy to do it? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So the caddy becomes really really good at it, so

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the he'll he'll start to have trust

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<v Speaker 2>in his caddy as the ball disappears all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So there's that option as well. But it

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<v Speaker 2>just hasn't happened yet. So I'm hoping it will happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope it happens for your lifetime as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am uh and have been for four or

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<v Speaker 1>five years now a big fan of the lab golf

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<v Speaker 1>putters that are lie angle balanced versus toe or heel balanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and they claim to have a lot of science behind

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. The putter that you have developed, what

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<v Speaker 1>makes it unique.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to take I call the putter the

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<v Speaker 2>psn I egos, which stands an acronym. I'm big into

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<v Speaker 2>the acronyms putting and surveying instrument. Instrument is that if

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<v Speaker 2>you take your fingers and to put your fingers out

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<v Speaker 2>like you're pointing, and then put your putter over the

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<v Speaker 2>over it and balance it, you'll come to some tow

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<v Speaker 2>hang on most putters, you know, forty five thirteen degrees whatever. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the PS and I egos you can put it in

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<v Speaker 2>any direction, the toe point in any direction and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>just stay there. So it's not a I call it

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<v Speaker 2>an all balanced putter. You know, there are face balance

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<v Speaker 2>putters that will if you do what I just said

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<v Speaker 2>that the face will will be looking straight up to

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<v Speaker 2>the sky axis. One makes a putter that the it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent, or it'll be ninety degrees pointing

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<v Speaker 2>down at the ground and the lab that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't put that way.

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<v Speaker 2>All that's true, but the perfect I've sold quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few putters just because they love the feel of an

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<v Speaker 2>all balanced putter. But the tricker with an all balanced

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<v Speaker 2>putter is that it becomes a surveying instrument and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter where your toe is pointing. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's why I sell that. But you can use

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<v Speaker 2>your own putter if you just know what position to

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<v Speaker 2>hold it every time. And I've been doing battle with

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<v Speaker 2>the USGA, and it says, well, if you mark the

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<v Speaker 2>putter with a mark slot, you don't put a little

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<v Speaker 2>dot and center it and all that. But the USGA

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<v Speaker 2>has sent me back, Oh, this has been about ten

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<v Speaker 2>years of correspondence. He keeps sending back. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that's illegal because you can't put any marking on a

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<v Speaker 2>putter other than decorative or to align the face the

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<v Speaker 2>when you're setting the putter down. So I've been I've

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<v Speaker 2>been through all that as well. Now the lab putter,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a little different creature. And I do know

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<v Speaker 2>an awful lot about putters. I believe that they they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a certain angle to the ground, a lie, as

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<v Speaker 2>you would say, and they make the putter balanced in

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<v Speaker 2>that lie, which is the lie where in the swing

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<v Speaker 2>plane you have. So that's what makes them special. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have to take that putter and try and

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<v Speaker 2>find out what when you hold it doing egos, what

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<v Speaker 2>makes it a true perfect vertical in other ways of

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<v Speaker 2>surveying instrument, I haven't got one yet, but I've got

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<v Speaker 2>about every other putter known de mand.

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<v Speaker 1>So andy, I'm not mathematically inclined, I may say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>even math challenged. So how can I make egos work

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<v Speaker 1>for me? I'm the creative type.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a great question. Then the book goes through

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<v Speaker 2>the three steps that you just need to do men

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<v Speaker 2>memorize in order to get into the proper positions to

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<v Speaker 2>get this angle gap I call it right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of your eyes on every putt, and the three steps

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<v Speaker 2>invoke the math that is involved. So I've got two

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<v Speaker 2>pages in the book of the actual math tenth grade

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<v Speaker 2>geometry proven as you were to see by a professor.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't need to know that it is. All

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is know how to stand, where

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<v Speaker 2>to stand, and how to hold a putter. Just those

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<v Speaker 2>three things and you can become an expert green reader immediate.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how to stand, where to stand, and the third one,

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<v Speaker 1>how to hold the so grip is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>The grip. Yeah, yeah, how to hold the putter. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to you have to put a putter out in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you. And I don't like to use the word,

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<v Speaker 2>but everybody else does, like you're plumb bobbing. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so again, and before I get into that, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just explain what I call plumb bobbing. I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>four ways of green reading. Well, one of those ways, excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Me if it's for me, just take a message.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those methods is what I consider staring with

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<v Speaker 2>the putter in front of you, and it is that

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I call plumb bobbing, because the putter in

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<v Speaker 2>all the other steps on how to stand or where to.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand, let's let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Love this, okay, let's start with the first The first

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<v Speaker 2>step is too and let me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's how to stand. As you're saying, the first step.

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<v Speaker 2>The first step is how to stand. So the first

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<v Speaker 2>step on how to stand is you you need to

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<v Speaker 2>take a wide stance at which gets your spine perpendicular

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground slope, all right, And this is where

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to create an angle gap in front of

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<v Speaker 2>your in front of your face with the putter and

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<v Speaker 2>some imaginary lines that you're going to draw. So wide stance,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tilt your head or your torso or anything in

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<v Speaker 2>any direction. And you wouldn't know which way to tilt

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<v Speaker 2>it on subtle slopes anyway, so you can, yeah, here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. So anyway, that's how to stand. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>important that you just stand the same way every time

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<v Speaker 2>so that if there are any quirks about you having

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<v Speaker 2>one leg short or another, it'll all come out in

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<v Speaker 2>the calibration. So that's how to stand. The second thing

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<v Speaker 2>is where to stand. Well, you need to stand where

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<v Speaker 2>the ball will break. So when you see people plumb

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<v Speaker 2>bobbing and the ball is in front of them, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake right away because you don't put backwards. So

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<v Speaker 2>you need to go stand up around or just slightly

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the ball with the ball between your legs,

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<v Speaker 2>spread your legs, stand correctly, and that's and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you are going to get the read or the slope

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<v Speaker 2>of the ground as the ball travels store as a hole. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say in my book, covers a ten foot putt

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<v Speaker 2>to win the US Open. So you go there, You

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<v Speaker 2>take a stance right in front of the ball, right

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<v Speaker 2>at the ball, take a read. Then in the minute

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<v Speaker 2>you take a read, you're going to have an angle gap,

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<v Speaker 2>and from the practice screen calibration you're going to know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly where to aim that ball for the speed you

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<v Speaker 2>like to make the ball. Okay, now the question is

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<v Speaker 2>will it continue to break that way all the way?

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<v Speaker 2>Does the slope remain the same. So, since you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to win the US Open with this ten foot

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<v Speaker 2>you go up to the hole, right at the hole,

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<v Speaker 2>with the hole right between your legs, and take the

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<v Speaker 2>same read, same do everything the same way as you

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<v Speaker 2>did over the ball, and you look and you see

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<v Speaker 2>an angle gap. If it's the same angle gap, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that the break is perfect. That it'll stay the

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<v Speaker 2>same and that your read is perfect. If, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>though you take a read and there is no angle gap,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a the putter goes right through your first object.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that it is flattened out at the hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So you need to adjust, and you need to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>your aim line a little less, and of course adjusts

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<v Speaker 2>for speed as well. It all becomes a real feel

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, a proportional feel. That's what I call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, can you explain to me what you mean by

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<v Speaker 1>angle gap?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? When you are at geometry, well, when you're standing

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<v Speaker 2>at the appropriate place, and you're standing where you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to and you're looking at the cup, all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>you run a ground line right straight to you're growing

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of your growing an imaginary ground line. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you get about three two or three feet in

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<v Speaker 2>front of your on that ground line, you'll see a

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<v Speaker 2>second object, or you'll see a little object on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground that you're running this ground line. Or it could

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<v Speaker 2>be a spike mark, if be a piece of dirt,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be anything. So you take the bottom, you

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<v Speaker 2>take your upholding it correctly and at arm's length, and

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<v Speaker 2>you put the very bottom of the putter onto the

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<v Speaker 2>up to find the cup, and the cup is off

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00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to the left. You know you have a right breaking putt,

421
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>all right, And how much of that gap you see

422
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>between the center line of the cup and the shaft,

423
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 2>you know exactly where the aim line is going to be.

424
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>It may be three more of those gaps, it may

425
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 2>be four more of those gaps, or maybe just two

426
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>more of those gaps. That's your aim line for the

427
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>speed you prefer to hold the putt, and that when

428
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you get good at it, that is instantaneous. And all

429
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>that becomes because you've got your spine and you've created

430
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 2>this angle gap with your body, and then you use

431
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you threw in the true vertical putter to expose that

432
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>ankle gap right there in front of your face every time,

433
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and you instantly know from calibration how much that ball

434
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>is going to break in a perfect a line. Now, again,

435
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>this goes back to the question you asked about the

436
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 2>mountain over here or the ocean over here? Do I

437
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:26.079
<v Speaker 2>take in account any of that? And you go, no, bet,

438
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 2>you best not even look at it, because if you

439
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>do look at it, and you take your read and

440
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden it shows an absolute straight putt,

441
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're going, no, it can't be because I see

442
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>it falling from the mountain to the ocean. You know.

443
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Now you've got doubt in your mind, all right, and

444
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you never need that. So I suggest don't even look

445
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.319
<v Speaker 2>for the mountain or the other because because then the

446
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>way you don't even get confused. But over time when

447
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you start making all these putts, so there goes you're

448
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to care what the tobography is. So all

449
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>of that what I just said, guess how fast that

450
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 2>is and how quick that is. We just eliminated slow

451
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>play on the on the on the course for all

452
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>tour pros.

453
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>What about you know, if it's a double breaker, they

454
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 1>haven't it's going to break one way and then as

455
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it gets closer to the hole, it's going to break

456
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 1>a different way.

457
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>How do you read those great question? So you uh uh,

458
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you take you so you got a twenty footer and

459
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 2>it's in the book as well. You you take your

460
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>first read right over the ball, all right, and you

461
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>got a nice little angle gap, you know, and you

462
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>go okay, and you know, of course the putters over

463
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 2>here the cups over here, which means left break. So

464
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>you got your boom boom boom. You got the line.

465
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You already know that, but you just want to confirm

466
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 2>that it's the same. So you go halfway and you

467
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>take another read and all a sudden, holy cal the

468
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>putters on the other side of the hole, and you

469
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 2>got and this ground here is right is left, the

470
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>right break just the opposite of which you just took

471
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>it there, all right, So now you're going, whoa, this

472
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 2>is something. So then you go up by the hole

473
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 2>do it again, and you see that continued left break,

474
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, or the right break, the opposite direction breke.

475
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>So then you adjust your original break and you hit

476
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 2>it appropriately, and you can practice that again and get

477
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>good at that on the practice green as well. Do

478
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>you follow all that? Well?

479
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>You ask me, if I follow all that? All of it? No,

480
00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 1>some of it? Yeah.

481
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>If I had an illustration right in front of me,

482
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you would be able to follow it a lot.

483
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Sure. Sure, I think that's why we should remind people

484
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to buy the book. If this isn't all intriguing to you,

485
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>buy the book, it's going to be worth the investment.

486
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's not even.

487
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Well you're going to be able to pay for the investment.

488
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Just in four man scrambles or Lauderdale's or whatever you call.

489
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I never lose one of those. And the reason is

490
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is because I insist on putting first, and if I

491
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>don't make it, you didn't waste the three other guys,

492
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, putting it up there pretending they know which

493
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>way the ball's going or this sort of stuff.

494
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>So when you're at your peak of playing and you're

495
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>using your ego system, how many putts around are you

496
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at for yourself? I'm sure it's not eighteen?

497
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Well it should be, but then again.

498
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I should be that.

499
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't enough to get into that expertise. My fellow

500
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>players when I was at the peak at playing, they

501
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 2>basically said, Andy, you know, you don't really hit the

502
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>ball that good. You know, you know, you know what

503
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Basically what they were saying is, I'm not on the

504
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>greens is much g I rs so you know I

505
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 2>get it up. If I get it up and then

506
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>six feet it's just dead that you know, I mean?

507
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't miss huh, you don't miss six footers,

508
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't miss ten foot.

509
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>At the peak when I was playing, I never never

510
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 2>even thought about missing a six footer. It was a

511
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact. They kick it back half the time.

512
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>They knew it was good.

513
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>That was a gimmey a ten gimme.

514
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Six footers are gimmy with this, will they will be

515
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 2>gimmes with two proas.

516
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we would hope so yeah, And you talked

517
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>about how they would say, well, if it's not on TV,

518
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to use it. That's kind

519
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 1>of like what they're talking about Ame Point.

520
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I would think, well, aame points on TV. It's worked

521
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>his way into it even though it doesn't work. But

522
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>that just shows the desperation that tour pros have. I mean,

523
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Jim Nance absolutely hates it. He's come out with articles

524
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>can't stand it when you turn your back to the

525
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>cup and then it's slow and it's goofy looking and

526
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 2>there's no math behind it. But other than that, you know,

527
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just desperation. They don't they don't trust, they're staring

528
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 2>at it anymore. So they're trying to find some alternative

529
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and somehow aim Point got out there with Adam Scott

530
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>a few others. I think Adam was one of the first.

531
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>And then getting it on TV, getting these and why

532
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 1>do you think it doesn't work?

533
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 2>A point? Yeah, well again, I'll go right back to

534
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the there's no math your foot feeling and you're going

535
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to have to persent some kind of four percent something

536
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and then you relate that to fingers. But what book?

537
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 2>What math book do you go to? Calculus, trig algebra,

538
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 2>differential equations, all of which I tech as a civil engineer.

539
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Where where is there a chapter on feeling? There isn't

540
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>There is no math. It takes math to work.

541
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, But you're also introducing your body.

542
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>The body the math that's correct. Your body is sets

543
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 2>up the structure, sets up your spine, that creates an angle.

544
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, So that's math anyway.

545
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Now, But I'm I mean you're you're introducing your body

546
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 1>in the stroke, not in the setup. I mean, what

547
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you're explaining to me seems like all part of the setup.

548
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>It is, and not necessarily we're.

549
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Talking expert green reading. Now, if you can't hit the

550
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 2>ball where you want to hit it, at the speed

551
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you want to hit it, that's a whole other subject, okay,

552
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's my contention that there isn't a two pro

553
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>they can't do that ninety nine point nine percent of

554
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the time that can hit that, they hit it where

555
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>they want to hit it, at the speed they want

556
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 2>to hit it, almost all the time.

557
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see. So you you said you don't

558
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like the word plumb bobbing.

559
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>That's great.

560
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Why is why is that taboo here?

561
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Because it does nothing. It's basically it's staring, just holding

562
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the putter up. The best you could ever get out

563
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>of it is maybe if you look at the cup

564
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and the cups at a big slant, you can see

565
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>that there is a big slant that the cup may

566
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.679
<v Speaker 2>help you a little bit when the ball starts to

567
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 2>get close to the hole, but has nothing to do

568
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 2>with what the ground slope is outside, you know, twenty

569
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>feet away. And people have looked at my system and said, oh,

570
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.599
<v Speaker 2>that's just plumb bobbing, and then they assume they even

571
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>know what plumb bobbing is. Have you ever had anybody

572
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 2>explain to you what plumbbobbing was? Well, I got eighty

573
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 2>eight pages in a book. It shows you exactly what

574
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>egos is.

575
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh uh huh, I got it. So we talked

576
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>about how to stand and where to stand. But you

577
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>said the third part was how to hold the grip.

578
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 2>That's correct, how to hold the putt.

579
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 1>How to hold the putter when you're doing the egosystem,

580
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 1>explain that to me, please.

581
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, in doing the egosystem, you have to create a

582
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>true vertical same thing as if you had a strain

583
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 2>on a plumb weight. All right, you want this thing,

584
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>this putter, to be an absolute, true vertical in front

585
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 2>of your eyes. Can you create the angle gap that

586
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>your spine is at. Okay, So you hold the putter

587
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the grip very lightly, and you

588
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>put it at arm's length, and you hold it this

589
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 2>way the same time, and then you run that line,

590
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that imaginary line to the second object and you put

591
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of it on there to create the c

592
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So that you need to make your putter a true

593
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 2>visual perfect as you look at it. In essence, it

594
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>becomes a serving instrument.

595
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So and and you're you're doing this so it's exactly

596
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 1>perpendicular to the to the ground too.

597
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It's exactly vertical to the world, exactly vertical to the

598
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>world visually from where you're looking at it. Okay, it

599
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>might not be that way any other way. So a

600
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 2>toe hag putter you know that has a certain toe

601
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>hang you if you're going to hold it, it'll it'll

602
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>actually veer off to the right or left as it

603
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.039
<v Speaker 2>balances each other. So you don't have a perfect vertical

604
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>on most toe hag putters. You but in certain directions

605
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>or in a certain dimension, when you get to toe

606
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>at a certain degree, it will be what you call

607
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>center balance vertically, and it will. You can use your

608
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>own putter if you know exact position to hold it

609
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 2>and get it into. But again, you know, when you

610
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 2>got like a two inch break or a two and

611
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>a half inch break, you need the most the best

612
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>surveying instrument putter you got uh or you need to

613
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you get the putter right every time. And so if

614
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 2>a tour pro complains he's missing, he's missing short putts

615
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 2>by that don't break much. The first thing I'm going

616
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>to do is saying, well, we need to work you

617
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>get your putter in the proper position.

618
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 1>So I'm a little confused about the math part, sure,

619
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm confused about math period, but when it comes

620
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to the ego system, I'm confused about where the math

621
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>part falls in.

622
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, the math part is tenth grade geometry.

623
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's why I okay, I never did that.

624
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Most people memorize it, take a test, and then forget

625
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>about it if they even take it right. But that's

626
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>a high school of course. So the math part is,

627
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>if I'm watching you do it, and if you're not

628
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>creating the angles and the gaps, you know, instantly I

629
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 2>can fix it. I can say, oh, you're not holding

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<v Speaker 2>your putty this way, you're tilting your body when you're standing,

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<v Speaker 2>or I can say you're not standing in the proper position,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And it's all just instantaneous to fix, and

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<v Speaker 2>we can keep fixing it until you get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well again, the book is called Math and

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<v Speaker 1>Analysis Green Reading Methodology on PGA Tour Today and Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>by Andrew J. Walters. Pe available that will put a

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<v Speaker 1>link for it in the show notes, and hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to help you out a lot. It's fascinating to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you do it right, there's no question it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Andy, Oh, it'll make you the best putter in

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<v Speaker 2>your group by far, nobody else is doing it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it'll take a person like Bryson and make him the

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<v Speaker 2>best putter in the world. And that's a guarantee. It's

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<v Speaker 2>in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'd love to tell you that Bryson listens to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but i'd be lying. I cannot imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>he does. And it was great talking to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate the education and best of luck with this method.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thank you, Fred, I appreciate you too,
