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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in is Friday. It's time for full

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court press. I was joking with Veno. You can see

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my bed in the background. I am in my hotel

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room in Matune, Illinois, very much in the middle of nowhere.

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This is the only way I could set this up.

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But you know what, that's where I Robbino, That's where

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I got home. You see Irvine. Very late last night.

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I was like delirious watching that game because I had

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been up for well over twenty four hours, and I

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was like, I must be dreaming. There's no way they

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didn't just call a hook on the Hawaii player. But

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sure enough they didn't. They actually called it a file

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on the defensive player. I had to stay up for

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another twenty minutes. But thankfully for me, Robbino, I have

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three straight wins, all in overtime. That never happens for me.

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I go down into the lobby here at the beautiful

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Hilton Garden in Matune, Illinois, and all they have is

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monster energy. So do you think I settled for that?

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Absolutely not minus negative two degrees. This morning I went

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out and found a bang. We got to just keep

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it consistent, staying with a peach, mango bang for the

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third day in a row, and there's a lot of

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good games for Friday, some games even moved to today.

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So I'm excited to talk about the slate with you.

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How was your night last night? We got the parlay home.

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You were up late too, big second half in Northridge

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to get the parlay home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was nice to see that. You see,

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Davis was running right with Northridge first half. I think

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Northridge closed that half with forty one or forty two.

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But then right out of the gate in the second

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half they came alive there into the mid sixties, I

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think before the ten minute mark even hit. So it

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looked pretty good because the pace was there, the scoring

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was there, and of course our favorite black background comes

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through again as Northridge gets into the mid nineties. So

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good job by us, and uh, maybe we will look

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to repeat this thing here today. Like you said, pretty

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decent card here, Adam.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, listen, you hear it in baseball

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all the time, Hitters love hitters love shooting against the

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or hitting against the great batters high Why would it

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be any different for basketball players? Right? Yeah, you can't

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you can't tell me that that's not a thing and

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that's that's not why that's there. And yeah Northridge, no

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sweat for your side for your leg of the parlay,

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big sweat for my leg. But Irvine gets it done.

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And Robin know we are. We're basically a two team

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or away from from being back even on the parlay.

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So that's what we're gonna go with today because tomorrow

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I'm sure we're going to do a three teamer with Kelly.

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So we're going to find a two team winner for

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you again today to get that parlay right back around

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even for the year. Which listen, it's January thirty. That's

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like they we're doing a parlay every day. If we

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can come out ahead on these, that's extremely impressive. I

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see by you in the chats like telling me, you

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know his his Florida Atlantic theory may very well be true.

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They get crushed by Memphis last night, So appreciate you,

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Brandon Young. Brandon says great stuff yesterday. Yeah, we're just

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trying to find winners every day. There's three hundred and

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sixty five Division one college basketball teams. There's got to

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be something out there that we can make some money on.

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So Robino, I'm going to go to you for this one.

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It's a huge game tonight, But can we make any

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money in East Lansing the Top ten battle Michigan Michigan State,

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Big one in the Big ten.

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Speaker 2: It seems early, Adam, like somebody feels like you can

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make money with the over in this game. One forty

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five all the way up to a couple of stray.

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One forty eight's out there. One forty seven and a

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half the predominant number. I'm not so sure I agree,

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but I could understand as somebody making that argument legitimate argument,

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you could you counter. But let's start with what's really

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gonna happen here. I mean, let's face it, tom Izzo

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is going to do or attempt to do, what tom

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Islo's attempted to do to teams that want to play

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quick pace for however many years his career has spanned,

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I lost track at this point.

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Speaker 3: Izzo's been there so long.

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Speaker 2: But Michigan State's going to try and control tempo and

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Michigan's going to try and run, and we'll see who

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wins that battle. Beyond that, I would say this, Adam,

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as good as Michigan State is as a rebounding team,

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and they're tremendous Statistically, they're number one I think in

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the conference and defensive rebounding, so second chance points are

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hard to come by, but Michigan does have the size

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of that this year on this team in Michigan's front

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line is bigger than Michigan States. I think Michigan State

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is a lot more energy, work, ethic, et cetera, et cetera.

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We know Islo's players over the years. There's a couple

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of things here. First of all, when they got Londenborg

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from UAB, what a coup that was for Michigan Because

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Ken Palm actually has him listed as one of the

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ten best players in the nation right now. I wouldn't

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argue that very versatile frontline player gonna be important here tonight.

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I'm sure that Michigan State has their sites set on him.

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I kind of feel like this game comes down to

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the point guards. Michigan State as good as Jeremy Fears is.

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Michigan State has had turnover issues, bad turnover issues, and

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Michigan can turn you over, so that'll be important here.

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The rebounding might negate itself. I don't know that Michigan

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State's going to get the great rebounding Edgit they always

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get against other teams, and then comes together point guard

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Ellie at Cadou from North Carolina who's been absolutely nailing

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it from three this season. And if Michigan gets these

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threes to fall, we've seen this before, you have to

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defend them at all three levels, and I don't know.

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I would say that Michigan might be the toughest cover

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defensively that Michigan State has had all season long, for

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the amount of things that they have to defend against

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this team. To me, Michigan is the better team. Michigan

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State is obviously well, I won't say obviously, but I

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will say with Tom Izzo, they're always in these types

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of games, very very feisty, so to speak, and that

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can win out here. Really tough game for me sidewise, Adam,

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And I don't know that I agree here with this

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total being pushed up. That kind of indicates somebody out

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there thinks that Michigan State will be forced to run

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at least a little bit with Michigan and get this

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game open core. I don't think Tom Mizzo wants this

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game seventy five, seventy five or seventy four seventy four

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to get it up and over. He may not be

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able to resist it. I'm not sure if I had to.

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If I had to make a play in this game,

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I think I would take the Michigan side at minus one,

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just because I think that that rebounding edge on both

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ends that Michigan State usually holds such an advantage in

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probably is negated quite a bit here by Michigan's bigs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I remember walking out of the Breslin Center

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with Brian Power earlier this year, and credit to BP,

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who was quite a few spara IPAs deep at this point,

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but still sharp as attack as always for him, and

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he goes Trigg, he goes you know, Michigan State. They

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just won that game. They went one for fourteen from three,

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and they just beat that Arkansas team, which was a

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good win for them. They went one for fourteen from three.

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turned into a pretty respectable shooting team from where they

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were earlier in the year. Right, Like, there was a

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couple of games earlier in the year where they could

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not hit an outside shot, and you know, going into

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tonight's game as they just try to get the most

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updated numbers. I mean, three point percentage this year is

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now thirty five point nine percent as a team, which

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is a top seventy five mark in the league. And

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that of course is included, like the slow shooting start

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for them is included. But why is that? Rob Their

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floor spaking, spacing is better, That's all Tom is Oh. Listen,

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Tom is Oh. He's still a college basketball coach, right,

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He's He's not just going to the portal and bringing

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you know, new roster in every year. That's why he's

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so frustrated with the current state of college basketball, because

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he wants to get guys in, develop his own guys

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and build a team, which amazingly he's been able to

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somewhat do in the current landscape. But I think that's

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why you see a team like Michigan State as they

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cleaned some of that stuff up. Because again I left

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that Arkansas Michigan game, which was like the first end

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of the season, and I was like, man, Arkansas is

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the better of these two teams, no question about it.

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Probably because they had more talent, right, like just talent

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at the time. But the more I watch Michigan State play.

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The more I'm coming around to them being like legitimate

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top ten team. Now, what I can't get down with here,

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Rob is the fact. And this goes back to our

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discussion on Tuesday when we talked Michigan State Nebraska. I

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think the pendulum has finally swung in the value department

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where it was like Michigan cannot cover these big numbers.

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Nebraska ends up being without multiple starters, and Michigan still

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doesn't cover. I can't when was the last time they

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covered a spread. It's been a while, right, Like it's

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been maybe since the USC game, which is it was

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a long time ago at this point. But here you go,

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Now you don't cover against Nebraska on Tuesday, and suddenly

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all you have to do is win the game. I'm

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convinced if like they come out and steamroll Nebraska or

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they're covering some of these numbers, you're probably looking at

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Michigan lane like three here, maybe even three and a half.

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So the fact that you can get Michigan minus one

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kind of feels like a buggin on the number. But

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for me, I still listen, that's a great I've now

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been to the Breslin Center twice. That's gonna be awesome.

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Give me a tremendous atmosphere. I want to like Sparti

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because I do think that they're better than they get

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credit for. But I think the books have sucked the

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value out at this point. They swung the page one

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too far, and now at Michigan minus one, I just can't.

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I would need more there. I would need at least

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three to play Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, it's seven straight non covers by

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Michigan after the Nebraska game, so oh and seven covered

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one Big Ten game all season long. Yeah. When you

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set this thing virtually at a pick them, uh, you know,

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it's hard to not play Michigan just because of their

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versatility at them.

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Speaker 3: There's and another.

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Speaker 2: Like I said before, the Michigan State turnover problems. They

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really have to hope those don't creep up tonight because

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Michigan will force you to turn it over. And I

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think Michigan States again the advantages that they hold their

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strengths are pretty much neutralized by Michigan having identical strengths.

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So we're gonna see home floor could be the answer here.

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It is oftentimes in college basketball the answer.

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Speaker 3: To who wins and who loses.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if Dusty May's team is phased by this

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environment or not. Probably not, but we're gonna see. Like

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Speaker 3: Seen the UAB kid play.

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Speaker 2: Last year or this year, just fantastic and Michigan at

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so many levels, just so good. I'm really surprised that

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Elliott Cadou is shooting the way he is on a

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consistent basis this year, but he's been phenomenal for Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Two top five defensive teams, two top ten rebounding teams,

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it very well. Maybe who takes better care of the

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basketball both of these teams will turn it over. I

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would say that that's one of the weaknesses you could

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point out on both sides. It might just be who's

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more composed here. And like again, for me, I think

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it's gonna be easier for Michigan State to be composed

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on their home floor. Like if it comes down to

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shooting the ball, I think they shoot it a little

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bit better at home. But man, you're just the books

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are not giving you anything there. I mean, they're really

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they're really pricing in that home run home spot. In

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my opinion, I feel like you should be getting at

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least three with the with the Spartans, and last I checked,

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we're still at like one one and a half here,

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I believe right still.

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Speaker 2: Dad, I'll say really quick, I do see a lot

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of ones out there.

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Speaker 3: Adam.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time we saw a Michigan team total

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listed at seventy three and a half. I mean that's

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like fifteen point thirteen twelve to fifteen points less. There's

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been some in the nineties. Seventy three and a half

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is a low number to add of Michigan, but that

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shows you the respect for the Michigan State Defense and

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the Michigan State home floor.

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Speaker 1: Here, it'll be a good one. There's a lot of

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good ones tonight. I have so Drake Dimes d m

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me before the show and he he he always jumps

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in and don't and donate. So uh, he said, Hey,

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I'm gonna miss the show live today. Can you can

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you please talk Grand Canyon Boise for me? And I

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see some people in the chat looking for that game

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as well, So let's head out to the Mountain West. Rob.

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You know I I told you I would have. I

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I lean think thankfully. I I've been pretty good this week.

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You know about like throwing games out that would have lost.

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Although yesterday I ended up only going with one play

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it hit with ucre yesterday, I would have had a

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decent I probably like of the five games I threw

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out or the six, I think I would have gone

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like four and two. But Rob, I told you it

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was I was spared a what would have been a

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generational crash out if I had had ended up playing

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Grand Canyon the other night, which I was very close

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to doing. Can you just walk me through what happened

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in the final like one second of that game, because

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I missed the actual live ending of regulation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a whistle blown with zero point eight

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on the clock for a three shot foul.

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Speaker 3: And the.

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Speaker 2: Clock ran all the way to zero, and the referees

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went back and checked the tape, checked for the foul,

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checked for the time, decided that there was truly a

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three point shooting foul and there actually were eight tenths

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of a second left, so they reset the clock from zero.

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Grand Canyon, actually I thought they won the game because

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the clock ran out and then the battle went to

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the line and made all three free throws, got it

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to overtime and win.

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Speaker 3: Sixty six to sixty, which is and if we.

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Speaker 2: Talk about UNLV Nevada later, I'll probably reference what I'm

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gonna say now into that game as well. For Grand Canyon,

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that would have been a monster win, Adam, because they

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did it without two of the most key components in

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their backcourt. Brian Moore, who's their point guard and their

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premiere playmaker, doesn't play in that game. Caleb Shaw, arguably

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their best three point shooter, doesn't play in that game,

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won't play tonight. They're really nervous about More as well.

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I saw Bryce Drew said maybe we hope he did

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practice Thursday, but it's a hamstring injury, and who the

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heck knows how long that lasts for More So the

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couple of things here, The fact that they almost won

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that game in Nevada is pretty good on Grand Canyon's part,

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And I don't know what it says about Nevada having

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a struggle like that against a team without two of

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their best backcourt players.

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Speaker 3: Both get over twenty minutes. Like I say, More is

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the playmaker on this team.

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Speaker 2: So let's move that into two night against Boise State,

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which has been for Leon Rice and his style. This

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has been a really high scoring team in league play,

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and they maintained the fantastic defense that leon Rice has

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generally preferred to teach his team throughout his career. This

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is a very tough matchup, I think for Grand Canyon

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if more doesn't go. Honestly, Boise's probably the right side here.

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As good as Grand Canyon's half court defense is, et cetera.

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They do have some flaws in this team. Scoring would

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be one of them. Against the Boise State team that

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the place, the building will be electric. Boys, you will

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have to fight that off. Grand Canyons first year in

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the Mountain West, so it's a place you're unfamiliar with

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right your first trip in. What is it like here

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on a Friday night? But to me, the personnel gap

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here would be huge if in fact Brian Moore doesn't play,

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and I don't know that they can. You know, Nevada

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that offense is not really good and it showed up

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that night, but Grand Kenyon was able to defend him.

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I don't know that they can defend Boise for forty

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minutes here and at the same time be able to

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score enough to outscore Boise. So my lean here is

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to Boise State. My other lean is toward the under because,

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in my estimation, if there's any way Grand Kenyon can

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win this game, they have to just lock down defensively

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not foul because they're a high, high volume foul team,

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and Boise State gets to the line a bunch. I

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think I saw this morning they were number two or

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number one inside Mountain West play at getting to the

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line free throw rate. So Grand King is going to

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have to play defense without fouling. I do think if

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you're going to be without show Off for a couple

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more games here, but if you're without more tonight as well,

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and I would lean Boise State in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So the one thing you left out when you

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were talking about the Nevada game is Grand KNY was

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plus four and a half and they ended up losing

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by six in overtime, which would have which would have

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again sent me, but thankfully I was not on that game.

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I was like, I had secondhand anger for anyone that

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had Grand Canyon in that game, because they deserve to win.

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They should have won the game and and and as

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you pointed out, they did it without Shaw and without more.

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Now I think they're going to be without both of

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them here tonight. But Rob, you know, this is this

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is how what I would look for in this game. Uh,

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if both of those guys get announced out, because it's

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the thing with like the books and and betting and

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stuff like that, is like sometimes the stuff is priced in.

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But then it'll be like they'll announce something we already know,

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and then the line will move again, right, And it's

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like if there's some egregious move toward if like let's

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say Boise gets slammed here right and takes money from

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the point where it is now and suddenly that thing

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steams three or four points, I'd be willing to play

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back with Grand Canyon at that point because because I

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I think that well, first of all, go back to

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the first meeting. Grand Canyon demolished them up in Boise.

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I don't think that game is ever close going off memory,

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but I'm pretty sure they won by twenty. Here's the

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problem with Grand Canyon. With those two out against most teams,

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it's gonna put you in a scenario where you're basically

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playing six guys. Right, Like, you take those two guys out,

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they they don't have depth beyond like eight or nine.

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They're probably playing six guys for the majority of the game.

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You know, yeah, you might steal a minute or two

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here with like the ninth to ten guy off a bench,

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but mostly that's gonna be six guys. Boise's not like

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insanely athletic that That's something I noticed. I got to

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see a Boise State game at the pit last year.

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They but when they played New Mexico, and something I

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had been thinking about for a while kind of like

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came to fruition in that game, and I started to

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look for it a little bit more, and I'm just like,

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what this team's not. They have no athletes. They have

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some really good basketball players on Boise State roster, but

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they lack athletes. So they're not like exactly the team

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in my opinion, that's going to exploit like a depth

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type thing like where it's just like, you know, they're

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not like so overly athletic that they're going to run

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you into the ground. So I actually think Grand Canyon

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might still be able to function a little bit even

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without two of their best players. But the key here,

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rob is going to be the market overreacting, right, which

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I don't think has happened to this point. I'm just

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trying to toggle back to the current line here. So yeah,

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like we're still sitting at Grand Canyon minus one minus

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one and a half. If this flipped and then suddenly

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I could catch like two and a half with Grand

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Canyon at home, which is going to be a tremendous atmosphere.

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I got to go there last year. Awesome, one of

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the best I've seen for like just a I mean,

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they are hyped from They actually set up a tailgate

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right in front of the arena, so because of of

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course it's Phoenix, it's warm, you can do up like that.

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But they've got like tent set up for the kids

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and like cornhole and like all the games and like

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drinks and stuff, and it's all pre set up so

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they just come in and hang out and you can

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hang out like hours and hours before the game and

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then go in. Yeah, it's gonna be a tremendous atmosphere.

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I think if you just randomly gave me an extra

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three points with Grand Canyon because because their two guys

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are out, which again the books already pretty much know

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this in my opinion, so it would just be extra

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I think I'd take Grand Canyon in that scenario and

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roll the Dice because I don't think Boysey can fully

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exploit those guys being out by you says this is

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a classic Friday smash spot with the Lopes. Don't overthink it, Man,

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Mountain West. Tough to win on the road in that conference.

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It's always been tough to win on the road in

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that conference. And there they fit right in with that narrative.

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That's the full marks for home court there, Rob.

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Speaker 2: Yet I do wonder again, we spoke a little bit

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about the unfamiliarity with the arena for Boise State, and

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I do wonder a little bit about the unfamiliarity with

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Grand Canyon as a team the first time around. Leon

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Rice now has a chance to go back make some

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adjustments to what happened, what went wrong in that case,

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Shaw and more were pretty significant contributors in that game

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as far as minutes are concerned, and like you say,

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they go a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 3: Than some team.

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Speaker 2: Still that offensive performance the other night, I guess you

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could look at it two ways, and either we respect

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Grand Canyon for going into Reno and playing as well

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as they did without two key components in the backcourt.

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And again it's a cluster injury, right it's two pieces

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of the backcourt. It's not one backcourt one front court

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where maybe you could overcome it. Do you respect that

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more or do you disrespect Nevada for not being able

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to take advantage on your home floor.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of crazy too, So we'll get to

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that maybe a little later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a theme for me today.

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There's a so I guess we'll do the promo now.

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I am like ninety five percent sure that I'll have

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a five percenter today. I haven't put anything out yet,

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but it's I'm trying to confirm some some info on

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a couple of games because like Grand Canyon, I mean this,

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we get to this point in the year and you

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know there's that there's guys, it's it's can be walking

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wounded a little bit. And so I'm just kind of

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I've got my eye on a couple. I have a

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good there, well, without a doubt I'll be playing something.

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But there's a good chance it's going to try to

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run this streak up a little bit. Tonight, Rob and

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Go five percenter, which means you should check out mine

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and Rob's joint package double the CBB Firepower. It's Friday,

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so it means it's the weekend package. So I mean,

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you know, if you if you're into uh, you know,

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like cost per game and keeping it low, this would

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be the day to do it. Because of course you'll

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then get Saturday when there's a trillion games morning till night.

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So check that out again. I haven't locked anything in yet,

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but you know I will be, maybe even before the

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end of the show. Maybe I'll throw another one out

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for free like we did yesterday and the day before.

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Maybe I can't throw another one out for free. I gotta.

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I've given a lot away this week, Rob, so you know,

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maybe maybe I gotta Maybe maybe won't do that, but hey,

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we're here to share opinions and ultimately, like the best

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compliment I've received this year has nothing to do with

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picking winners and losers. It's the DM I got the

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other day where it was just like, hey, like you,

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you got me to look at something a different way

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than I was looking at it, and I was able

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to make a good bet or not or or in

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Swizz this case, not make a bet. He says, good

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call on the moine. I'm glad I changed my bet

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after listening to you. Yeah, I mean listen. It's so

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hard to know everything about every school. I certainly don't,

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but like I live twenty five minutes from La Moyne,

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so I'm probably gonna just be a little bit more

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tuned in. And some of the folks in the chat

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whoever had New Jersey Institute of Technology yesterday, great call,

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that was someone in the chat. So yeah, I think

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we uh, you know, that's really the point of this show.

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So so appreciate you guys for that. All right, Rob Vino,

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let's get back out. Well, we're gonna do this one. Uh,

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your boy is going to be going. It's going to

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be back in the car today, not nearly as long

476
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,799
as I was yesterday, So I pretty much have a

477
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,799
whole a whole day to do my thing before this game.

478
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:40,960
But I will be at Shape Eats Arena tonight. I

479
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,319
think it's how you say it, Saint Louis. I'm about

480
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,799
two hours from Saint Louis right now, and that's where

481
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:49,720
I'll be tonight for what sum are calling the biggest,

482
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,519
one of the biggest home games and in Saint Louis history.

483
00:25:52,559 --> 00:26:00,480
From a you know, just a hype anticipation stand point,

484
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,400
the game is sold out, and that's a big arena

485
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920
for the A ten ten thy four hundred seats. It's

486
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480
already sold out. Uh And I will be in the

487
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,319
building for Dayton Saint Louis, Robino. If Stanford doesn't hit

488
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:18,200
a crazy three against Saint Louis, they're one of the

489
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,039
unbeaten teams that maybe is getting more attention than they're

490
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,160
getting right now. Although I think I think at least

491
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,160
in the college basketball space, everyone's well well informed about

492
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,680
Saint Louis basketball. I saw this number, I thought it

493
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,839
was pretty big, though, do you think this number is

494
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,759
too big? Robino?

495
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: It depends what you think of Dayton at this point

496
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,480
in time.

497
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,319
Speaker 2: We know what we think of Saint Louis, We know

498
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,559
what Saint Louis is capable of. What do we think

499
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,960
of Dayton? Especially off of this recent three games? Can

500
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,279
you lose to LaSalle, Can you lose to Saint Joe's?

501
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200
Can you lose to Rhode Island all in consecutive fashion

502
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,519
and be considered any good this year? I'm not sure

503
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:04,799
Dayton is any good. Obviously, you can mask some of

504
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:09,359
your problems inside the A ten, and your overall statistics

505
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,599
can look a little bit better than what you actually are,

506
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,799
but this is going to be tough. I almost thought,

507
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,079
you know, the other night we talked about Saint Louis

508
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,319
gw Right, and I think you were making the case

509
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,039
for GW as a dog, and they did come through

510
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,759
as a dog. And you know, twenty twenty hindsight is

511
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,319
always going to be a winner. But in retrospect, I

512
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,759
think to myself, was there any potential that Saint Louis

513
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,200
was looking ahead to the Dayton game on Friday? Now

514
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,319
you shouldn't because gw is probably more of a threat

515
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,640
in the standings, or at least they're of equal threat,

516
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,039
so you shouldn't. And maybe that doesn't even come into

517
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:53,359
play here, But I would say that I don't have

518
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
as much respect for Dayton at this point in time

519
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,519
as maybe I would have earlier this season. Anthony Grant

520
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,160
generally is a coach that has a pretty solid defense.

521
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,119
But some of these numbers over the last few games

522
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,559
inside the league tell me that Saint Louis is going

523
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,640
to score tonight. I guess the question becomes can they

524
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,559
score enough to win by margin? Early money doesn't think so.

525
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,880
Early Money's on Dayton plus the ten and a half.

526
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,880
But of course I don't look at sides as much

527
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,400
as I look at totals, and they're showing me a

528
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,599
number of eighty and a half in this game for

529
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:27,319
Saint Louis, and I'm thinking to myself, that might be

530
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,200
a spot. Rare have to pull the trigger on Saint

531
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,400
Louis to get to eighty one at home against this

532
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,440
team because Dayton, you know, one of their assets over

533
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,640
the course of time, Adam, has been their ability to

534
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,519
slow games down. We talk about teams that can frustrate

535
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,000
fast paced teams with their slow down offense, with their

536
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:50,599
pedestrian style. But you've got to be effective at doing that.

537
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,680
And by effective, I mean offensively. You've got to be efficient.

538
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
You've got to be in order to keep the game slow.

539
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,000
You have to be able to score. You have to

540
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,400
keep yourself in the game so that you're not in

541
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:04,759
chase mode. If Dayton gets into chase mode here, that

542
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:08,960
feeds into Saint Louis even more. To me, that's problematic

543
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000
for the Dayton side. Dayton doesn't shoot the three very well,

544
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:17,039
that's problematic for the Dayton side. And at home. You

545
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,359
know my theory on these home teams when there's a

546
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,400
contrast in tempo. I always believe the home team can

547
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,519
control or can enforce their will, their style, their preferred

548
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,880
method on the opponent for more than half the game.

549
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:35,279
And I just feel like Dayton could get into trouble here.

550
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,000
I don't want to lay the double digit number, but

551
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,039
I do think I like to play Saint Louis open

552
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,680
over eighty and a half points here. To me, this

553
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640
should be a game where they find mid eighties. I

554
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:52,319
just you know, I'm not sure that Dayton has. Mike

555
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,839
Tyson used to have an old saying everybody thinks they

556
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,559
have a chance until they get punched in the mouth.

557
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,279
And I think they it feels like they have a chance,

558
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,000
but it's hard to simulate what Saint Louis does in

559
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,160
your practice session, and maybe they have to get punched

560
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,039
in them out the early. Maybe the better play is

561
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,480
early with Saint Louis. As I talk here, maybe Dayton

562
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,480
gets overwhelmed a little bit early and then its Anthony

563
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,400
Grant's a good head coach. But in some way, shape

564
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240
or form, I like the Saint Louis point scoring angle here.

565
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,359
Speaker 1: You know, I actually think I would if I think

566
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,000
if you like Dayton. So here's here's my thing like

567
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,960
the just if you're just talking numbers, okay, this opened

568
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,039
eleven and a half twelve. If you're just talking I'm

569
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,480
just gonna bet numbers, not teams. I can't stand that

570
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,680
saying that. I want to I want to fight every

571
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
time I hear someone say that's ridiculous saying. But I

572
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,039
understand being like that number is off. Okay, Like, for example,

573
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,960
I've got Saint Louis minus eight point seventy five here. Okay,

574
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160
that's quite a bit off of the twelve opener. But

575
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,680
I am in no rush to to just take the

576
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,839
twelve with Dayton my numbers off, because I think there's

577
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,559
a lot more to it than just betting a number.

578
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,720
I think there's there's a whole handicap, right, There's so

579
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,960
many different variables that come into play, and a lot

580
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:15,759
of the variables, like you can't just not acknowledge the

581
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,839
huge home crowd, the fact that Dayton might just be bad. Right,

582
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,440
look at what date, look at the last three games

583
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,720
for day Listen, Dayton still gets a lot of credit

584
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,279
for the name on the front of the jersey because

585
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,440
they're good in this league every year. But this team

586
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,119
just lost to LaSalle They just lost to Saint Joe's

587
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,000
and then they lose a home game to Rhode Island.

588
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:35,599
This might just be a bad team, bad bad relative

589
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,599
to what the what the market typically views Dayton as.

590
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,119
So I'm not saying Dayton is a bad team. They're

591
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:45,559
still fourteen and seven. They're not a bad basketball team.

592
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480
But but they're not a contender in this league this year,

593
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640
and that you know, that just might be that just

594
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,599
might be what we're dealing with, right Like Saint Louis,

595
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,920
even though it's a bad they can still cover a

596
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,799
bad number, right like if they're and here's what I'll go.

597
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:03,640
I brought Bayou's comment up because he says, maybe Dayton's

598
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,559
a first half place plus six and a half, Dayton's

599
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,720
gonna have to be overly physical to hang in this game.

600
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,559
That's That's what you can do a little bit to

601
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,079
Saint Louis because you know, as good as they are,

602
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,960
you still have Robbiavilla think that something I was critical

603
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880
of Saint Louis last year when you know they hadn't

604
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:26,200
realized the Josh shirtz Robbie Avilla. Uh, you know, it

605
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,119
was still year one and they were still trying to

606
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,880
figure it out is I felt like they were soft

607
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,680
at times, and if Dayton comes in and and really

608
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
competes in that regard, they can hang around. So the

609
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,759
reason I kind of agree with Byu is it's like, well,

610
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,440
let's see if the physicality works out early, because if

611
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,240
Dayton gets into foul trouble or if Saint Louis finds

612
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400
a way to sort of would stand that pressure move

613
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,759
the ball hit a couple of shots that it could

614
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,160
get out of hand late. So I actually I don't

615
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,319
mind the look from Bayu. If you like Dayton, maybe

616
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,960
maybe look at a first half play because I think

617
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,319
I think over the course of forty minutes, Rob I

618
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
start to agree with you, or like, I think Saint

619
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,119
Louis is going to pick them apart. Eventually. They run

620
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,240
such good offense, they're gonna have the ten five hundred people,

621
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,559
you know, pushing them ahead. Like I do think that

622
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,599
there might be a knockout punch at some point for

623
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Saint Louis. Now doesn't mean that it ends up being

624
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,960
more than a thirteen point margin. I guess it depends

625
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,240
on how the game ebbs and flows, right, because hey,

626
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,039
let's say Dayton gets up early. Maybe the knockout punch

627
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,720
is to come back and win by five, right, Like,

628
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,759
that's very possible. So to me, I couldn't really find

629
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,799
my way onto a side because of that. I do

630
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,319
think there's value in the date and number, especially where

631
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,880
it was. I think Saint Louis is just better. I

632
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,559
don't really necessarily want to fade Dayton coming off three

633
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,079
straight losses, but this Saint Louis team, they might just

634
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:53,839
be like Generations might be a historically good Saint Louis

635
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,599
Billiken's team, And what we know about historically good teams

636
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680
rob is they they tend to outperform them market right.

637
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:03,920
It's almost like you can't make the number high enough sometimes,

638
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,079
So I'm okay with your angle, maybe trying to just

639
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,559
take the outcome out of it and looking for points

640
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,800
because I think Saint Louis may they weren't super efficient

641
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,199
against George Washington the other night, right the game before

642
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:18,840
my eye buddies that went to that game, they were

643
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,079
at the bar at halftime in Olian. I think Saint

644
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,039
Louis was up thirty seven thirteen at one point. So

645
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,840
if you get that Saint Louis team, you're probably gett

646
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,639
your team total over.

647
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just looking at Saint Louis road efforts in

648
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,159
the A ten this year, Adam, how do you go.

649
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: To Loyola and only win by two? Escape with your lives?

650
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,360
Loyola stinks?

651
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: And then how do you go to LaSalle like we've

652
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,280
said twice now and lose out right? And then follow

653
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,719
it up, I go into Saint Jose and I realized

654
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,559
Saint Jose's played a lot better lately, that that basketball

655
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,400
team could be a lot of addition by subtraction. But

656
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,079
then you go to Saint Jose on the heels of

657
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,599
a loss to LaSalle and lose. In Saint Jose the's

658
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,480
road efforts, they did beat Dukine by six, credit him

659
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960
for that, and Duquine's a pace type team much like

660
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,519
Saint Louis, but they just haven't been good and they're

661
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,440
allowing a little more than they generally would. So I

662
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,440
do like to I'd rather play just my line of thinking,

663
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,760
I'd rather play total here and probably team total with

664
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,800
Saint Louis figuring at somebody as inefficient as they were

665
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,400
against g W. They scored seventy nine and so that

666
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,599
just shows you the capability of this team's offense.

667
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: All right, Robbino, do you do you have an idea

668
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,880
of what you want to use for the parlay yet?

669
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,519
Or are you still I'll let you go if you know.

670
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've got three ideas. Let me just pick

671
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,880
the best idea of all. It sounds like, you know,

672
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,079
maybe you know what. I'll just go because sometimes you

673
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,800
can overthink it and I'd rather just go. And I've

674
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,400
done this before, and hopefully we capitalize here with this

675
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,480
team total. Like I said, yes, they get back to

676
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,079
what I have been doing best with these team totals.

677
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,079
But I'm going to go back to the well one

678
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:17,960
more time with the Sacred Heart team total over. It's

679
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,000
an in state game against Quinnipiac. Obviously, for Sacred Heart,

680
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,320
you need to have pace of the game. You can't

681
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960
have a slow team. You have to have a quick team,

682
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,320
which Quinnipiac is, so the pace. The additional opportunity should

683
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,679
be that we've talked enough over about this team with

684
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,599
a Kwan Hill and whatnot. The last time I think

685
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:44,840
I used them on the show, they did get there,

686
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,079
and then there was one instance right after that where

687
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,639
they didn't get there. But I think this is a

688
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,119
real high scoring game. Obviously, the total indicates that one

689
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,519
fifty six and a half is your number here. Team

690
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:57,800
total for Sacred Heart in this instance is only seventy

691
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000
three and a half. I just feel like there's enough

692
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:04,079
opportunity in a high paced game for a team that's

693
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:08,079
shown a lot of offense since Hill has been inserted

694
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,679
into the lineup. There were other options to try here

695
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,960
in this game, including the Princeton Cornell full game total over,

696
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:21,400
which may make my card today. We'll find out as

697
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,239
I look into it a little bit further, but at

698
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,960
this point in time, I think the best way to

699
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,360
go is for me to take Sacred Heart team total.

700
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,559
The number just seemed low to me at seventy three

701
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,159
and a half. I feel like there's seventy five plus

702
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,679
in this game for them, So that'll be my half

703
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,760
of the Parlay Adams Sacred Heart team total will go

704
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,679
back to the web. I think, for a second time

705
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,559
on this show, Sacred Heart over seventy three and a half.

706
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't look now, Robino, Sacred Heart is one four

707
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,519
in a row and they're playing, and I think a

708
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,239
lot of it coincides with Ankwon Hill coming back, so

709
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,360
he actually came back in the Maris game back in

710
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,119
early January. That was a game where listen, there's there's

711
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,400
no shame in losing to Marius. This year they actually

712
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,840
covered that game. Sacred Heart was plus five and a half.

713
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,840
Marris won by four. Very interesting to me that the

714
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,199
second game Hill was back, he had twenty one and

715
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:22,320
Sacred Heart only scored sixty as a team against this

716
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,039
Quinnipiac team, So that that I was trying to quickly

717
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,639
pull that that box score up. But I would imagine

718
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:32,079
Sacred Heart just had an abysmal three point shooting performance

719
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:33,840
in that game. I don't know if you have it

720
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,800
in front of you right there, but.

721
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: The ten of twenty seven, and you're right, Hill came

722
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,280
off the bench in that one played Now he played

723
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960
thirty three minutes, went six of ten from two, but

724
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,320
it was the first game acclimating him back in ten

725
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,039
of twenty seven from three. But how about this, only

726
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,679
thirty nine percent from two point range in that game,

727
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,480
So the overall shooting was twenty one of fifty five,

728
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:56,400
which isn't great.

729
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,599
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I can tell that they were

730
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,440
fully acclimated the game after that, because that was they

731
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,760
came to they came to Albany and dropped eighty six

732
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,800
on Sienna and dominated pretty much start to finish. I

733
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,159
mean they led the majority of that game. So since then,

734
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,320
even though it hasn't always been like the huge authensic performance. Now,

735
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,800
the game that you're referencing that you came on and

736
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,639
gave out on this show was the Rider game where

737
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,280
they dropped one oh five on Ryder. I remember you

738
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,559
gave that out on the show. But they're still winning games, right,

739
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,320
And yeah, you can look at last over the weekend,

740
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,960
only winning by one against Niagara, only winning by three

741
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480
against Canisius. But this was a team coming into the

742
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:42,760
year that I thought would be pushing the top of

743
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,199
the MAX standings. I loved I love Anthony Latina, think

744
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:48,320
he's a great coach. I really like what they did

745
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,840
in the offseason. The problem for them is they play

746
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,239
no defense. At times. It's really not scoring the basketball.

747
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,559
Their problem is mostly on the defensive end. And where

748
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,079
I'm going with this is Sacred Heart. Before that four

749
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,400
game win streak was one and six in conference play.

750
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:08,400
Now they're five and six. They're trending in the right direction.

751
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,719
I would not be at all surprised if they hung

752
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
around and had a chance in this game, and so

753
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:15,639
it's probably a little bit correlated with your team total.

754
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,880
But you know, eight and a half nine whatever this

755
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
is right now, I wouldn't be dying to lay that

756
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,199
with Quinnipiac. You got a little bit of a revenge

757
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,079
based on the you know, losing the earlier season matchup,

758
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,239
and Sacred Heart is won four straight and they're just playing.

759
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,599
They play such better ball with Anon Kwan Hill in

760
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,360
the lineup, So even though they might not play much defense,

761
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960
I think they could score enough to cover. And if

762
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,599
they score enough to cover, you're probably gonna hit your

763
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,199
team total. So I'm very much with you with how

764
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,119
you're looking at this one.

765
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last piece of that real quick here at

766
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,679
and the less four teams that they've played that they've beat,

767
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,719
those are four the slowest four of the five slowest

768
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,360
tempos in MAC play. If you can get the seventy one,

769
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,960
sixty nine and then one oh five and eighty six,

770
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,880
of course are better than seventy three, but the seventy

771
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,880
one and sixty nine over the weekend against Kensius and

772
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,280
Niagara might as well be you know, seventy seven against

773
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,800
a fast tempo team like Sacred Heart is finally going

774
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,519
to get an opponent that wants to get into their

775
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,920
style of games. So I would think that over seventy

776
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,760
three and a half is a pretty good look here

777
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,159
with Sacred Heart team total.

778
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't only Hill like they had. I think.

779
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:33,719
I think Ralph Bayer missed a game at one point.

780
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,880
You know, they had Jon Ferrell out for a game

781
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,280
at one point. So collectively it seems like they're for

782
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
the most part healthy at this time of year. And again,

783
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,840
I think a healthy Sacred Heart team I was certain

784
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,840
would be like a top four or five team in

785
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,960
this league this year. So they're a play on in

786
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,000
my opinion, just in general. And if you if you

787
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,360
know so, I don't see why they wouldn't qualify for

788
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,280
that getting this number of points here, and for our sake,

789
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,119
hopefully they just get the points. If they lose, you know,

790
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:06,599
they can lose, they can give up one hundred today.

791
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,679
If they get their points, we're good. That's all we

792
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,440
care about. All right, let's go, let's go back in.

793
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,639
I gotta I gotta get I see a couple of

794
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,119
people in the chat wanted this game. Joey Cheese texted

795
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,360
me off h off Air, although actually he was in

796
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,000
here earlier asking first of Ivy League Princeton Coronell is

797
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,960
the game that the uh, the chat wants to talk about.

798
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,519
And you know I've been I've been critical of Cornell

799
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,760
this year, Robbino. This is uh, this is not the

800
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Brian Earl Coronell teams of you know, of the past

801
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,599
decade prior to you know, two years ago when he left.

802
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,119
So I've been out on them a little bit. But

803
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
pretty nice win for them last time out, so I

804
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,360
actually gave them out on the show. I said it

805
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,159
was a great matchup for them against Brown and they

806
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:01,960
would absolutely destroy Brown, which they For me, it was

807
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:04,119
a little bit surprising that they were kind of able

808
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,480
to do the same thing to Harvard. So now you

809
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:11,039
have Cornell coming in on back to back wins and

810
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,639
they're at home, but they're at home against the Princeton

811
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:17,960
team that I'm not really sure of. I don't know

812
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,840
that I knew they wouldn't be what they've been the

813
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,880
last couple of years because of Courzavian Lee goes to Florida,

814
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,360
Caden Pierce takes a year off, So I don't fully

815
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,159
know what to think about Princeton. So Princeton Cornell, do

816
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:33,280
you see easy buckets in this game? Because that happens

817
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,920
in Cornell game sometimes as well.

818
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's generally the way you look at

819
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,639
Cornell games.

820
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: Right.

821
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: Not only will they score, because they score at a

822
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,360
rate as good as most teams in the country, but

823
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,079
they're just not a defensive minded team whatsoever.

824
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: A couple of.

825
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,079
Speaker 2: Numbers here that I had from this morning Cornell the

826
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:58,599
three point shooting here twelfth best in the country, obviously

827
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,199
bread and butter of the offense, but three sixty one

828
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:06,320
out of three sixty five and three point defense, which

829
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,800
opens the door for Princeton a little bit, which is

830
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,840
a almost a fifty percent shot distribution three point shooting

831
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,679
team in their games away from home, which is interesting

832
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,400
when you look at these splits at them. And the

833
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,159
only reason why I looked that up this morning is

834
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:27,199
because you've brought up home road splits during the week

835
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,840
for some of these teams. And when I checked Princeton

836
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,239
and I see that they shoot forty nine percent of

837
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,360
the forty nine percent of their shots on the road

838
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,480
come from three point range. And Cornell doesn't defend it

839
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,719
then you have to figure that there's gonna be a

840
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,000
ton of open looks, and you know players with open looks.

841
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:48,440
I don't care how rotten the team might be at

842
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,719
shooting the three kids with open looks. Eventually that many

843
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,480
they're gonna make a bunch. So to me, this games

844
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,760
set up as an over I had mentioned that earlier,

845
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,840
that that was one of my choices to go with

846
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,639
as half of our parlay. But I can safely assume

847
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:09,039
that Cornell is going to get theirs. And then if Princeton,

848
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:11,840
if the matchup dictates that Princeton's going to get a

849
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,559
lot of open threes and that's what they like, and

850
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,239
the other team doesn't defend them, then you know, the

851
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,039
assumption becomes Princeton will get theirs. Then I look at

852
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,280
this number. There's games where Cornell is listed in the

853
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,320
one seventies, and here we get away with a one

854
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,440
sixty one, which to me, Cornell game total baseline is

855
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,199
kind of cheap. In my estimation, Cornell should always be

856
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,599
at least about a one sixty four one sixty five.

857
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:41,320
So this particular matchup, you talked before about how you

858
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,639
want to fight every time you hear people saying we

859
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,000
bet numbers. Well, this is one of those instances where

860
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,280
the matchup, you know, you can run your numbers and

861
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,480
come up with a side in total pretty easy. It's generic,

862
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:56,800
it's mathematics. But when you dig into the matchup a

863
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,320
little bit and realize that Princeton's probably going to be

864
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,199
able to score above their season average here tonight, just

865
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,280
because of the way this game will be played, because

866
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,840
of the strengths and weaknesses, the advantages disadvantages. I think

867
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,880
this game gets over when sixty one.

868
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Muted.

869
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,199
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm gonna do it. I'm mean I'm gonna put

870
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,519
Princeton in the parlay plus five and a half. I

871
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,559
don't like. I don't like this team typically like I

872
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:28,960
just and when I say I don't, I don't have like,

873
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,199
like or dislike for any of these teams. Yeah, I

874
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,760
hope they all, you know, do well and put people

875
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,679
in the seats and it's it's good that. Yeah, I

876
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:41,320
don't really care for them or Iona albany Iona listen.

877
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,400
That's yeah. Those are the exceptions. But Jadwin Jim's a

878
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,039
great building. I've been there. It's really cool place. This

879
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,320
This game is at Newman Arena. It's the new York.

880
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:56,000
But listen, Princeton, I think you're right, Rob, this is

881
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,840
not the worst matchup for Princeton. It is so something

882
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,039
Instant doesn't do particularly well is move the ball, which

883
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:06,599
is could could theoretically be an issue against a team

884
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,639
that presses and you kind of have to move it

885
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:11,760
around to break the press to the press. But they

886
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,119
also don't turn it over a ton and that's huge

887
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,639
against Cornell if you can, if you can can possess

888
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,039
the ball and not just like cough it up and

889
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,039
let them get these like because what happens is if

890
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,679
Cornell forces a turnover, it essentially turns into a transition

891
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,440
open three. So what they do a lot of times

892
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,079
they'll turn over and then they'll get a good look

893
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,559
from three, and that's where they can like accumulate points.

894
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,239
If you're not letting them do that, you can break

895
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,920
their press a little bit. There's a lot of easy points.

896
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,880
I've talked about this multiple times this year. There's a

897
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,800
lot of easy points on the back end of this

898
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,280
Cornell zone. Whereas where if you have ball handlers and

899
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,800
you can break their pressure and you can just get

900
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,079
you know, into the front court. They're they're not that

901
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:57,960
good defensively, and and I don't think that, like I know,

902
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:00,400
they're still playing the same style that Brian or I'll play,

903
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,559
but this is not nearly as polished of a Cornell

904
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,960
team as as you've had a couple of years ago,

905
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,159
when Earl, who's now at William and Mary, was building

906
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:13,800
this program. I've been on record calling them TMU Cornell

907
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:18,840
rob Vino. It's like the t version of Coronell. You know,

908
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,039
it's still it works sometimes, but it's just not you know,

909
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,760
it's just not the name brand Brian Earl product. So

910
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,639
my number here, you know, I'm glad that the chat

911
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,920
and Joey Chez brought this to my attention. My numbers

912
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,280
two point nine. So that's enough for me that that's

913
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,599
a pretty big the pretty big edge there just from

914
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:44,159
a number standpoint. Yeah, I don't I've been to Newman

915
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,519
Arena a few times. I don't bump Cornell tremendously for

916
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:51,599
like any sort of crazy home court. So Colin Gregory

917
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,320
says Princeton was a look for me. He's gonna look

918
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,679
at Princeton first half plus three. Yeah, I prefer the

919
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:58,920
full game. I think there's more value in the plus

920
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,079
five and a half full game by you says if

921
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,840
if you know, if they could keep it low and slow,

922
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,719
they could win. Yeah, they define, Well that's the thing.

923
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,280
Princeton could absolutely win this game, no question about it.

924
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Like it. Don't make no mistake. This is not a

925
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,079
good Cornell team. This is a This is a very

926
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:18,400
average Cornell team that's going to look really good at

927
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,199
certain times against teams that just don't handle the way

928
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,800
they play particularly well. Princeton is the type of team

929
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,519
that I think could handle the way they play. So

930
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,559
this will this will be my leg of the parlay.

931
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:33,199
Princeton plus five and a half is going to be

932
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,960
my parlay leg Robbino, I have to go to that,

933
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:42,840
so we I read the comments every day. You know,

934
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,360
if you if you miss any of the show, as

935
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,480
always like and subscribe, or I could jump the gun

936
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,039
there asking for the like and subscribe. It's on the

937
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,239
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938
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,320
you liked and subscribe when you're over there, and while

939
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,199
you're over there, if you leave us a comment, we

940
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,079
will likely answer the comment. And one of the comments

941
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:08,840
was you guys don't talk enough Horizon League basketball, and

942
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,800
I was like, hey, you know what, there's no no

943
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,360
hate toward the Horizon. I let the Horizon's a great league.

944
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,800
But you guys got to show up and ask for

945
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,920
the games or because we're going to talk about the

946
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,760
games that you bring up. That's the one thing about

947
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,360
this show not scripted. We're just doing it on the fly.

948
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,480
We prepare nothing. I mean we prepare, but we don't

949
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:29,280
prepare what we're going to talk about outside of that

950
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,639
first game. So you got to show up and ask that,

951
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,599
you know, ask for the game. So what the one

952
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,880
it looks like people want to talk about. I'm going

953
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,440
to pick the one that I see more comments on,

954
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,039
and that's going to be Doug Gottlieb's Green Bay Phoenix. Rob.

955
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,039
You know, I've been a I feel like I was

956
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,280
ahead of the curb on Gottlieb being a good coach.

957
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,519
Suddenly everyone's like, hey, maybe he knows what he's doing.

958
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,679
And I said, coming into this year, I said, he

959
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,199
learned from that first season what it takes to be

960
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,920
a division one hand basketball coach. I think he came

961
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,599
into this year a much better coach than he was

962
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:07,480
last year. And now he's starting to get some results.

963
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,880
He's starting to get some wins. I would go as

964
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,400
far to say Robino that he's turning this program around

965
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,840
a little bit. Green Bay seven and four in Horizon

966
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,880
League play, They're only two wins off of the top

967
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,639
spot in the Horizon. They're gonna get another one tonight.

968
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,079
I don't think they're losing to Cleveland State. The question

969
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,039
is will it be by margin? Do you have anything

970
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:31,760
for us Cleveland State, Green Bay?

971
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

972
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: Let's add to that really quick, Adam, because we did

973
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440
talk about this early in the year, and for those

974
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,280
who missed some Horizon Talk, we were talking about IU

975
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,679
Indy an awful lot early this year because of the

976
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:46,519
pace of that offense. Some Horizon League cheddar. But Doug

977
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:49,400
Gottlieb gave up the radio, the podcast or whatever right

978
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,599
to become a full time head coach. Is what when

979
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:57,480
he made that decision, like mid December, a little towards

980
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,559
the end of December, maybe I remember big press conference,

981
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,400
I'm going to commit myself to this team. And since then,

982
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,360
I mean, it was starting to get good then it's

983
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,280
been a little bit better since then for him. Cleveland

984
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,039
State on a decent run. Let's just go back to

985
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,079
the first game. Played between these two where green Bay

986
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:18,760
ran Cleveland State out of the gym. At Cleveland State

987
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,119
eighty eight seventy three. Green Bay shot fifty percent from

988
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:25,280
the three point mark in that one, fifteen of thirty

989
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,920
seventy percent from two point range, So you're talking about

990
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,480
twenty nine of fifty for the game from the floor,

991
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,079
fifteen of seventeen from the free throw line. Just absolutely

992
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:40,800
shot lights out in that particular game. Question would be

993
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,360
can they repeat it here at home against Cleveland State?

994
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,039
And I kind of don't see why not, Adam, To

995
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:48,599
tell you the truth, I mean, if you can win

996
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:51,159
by fifteen on the road and Cleveland State, let's give

997
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:52,440
them a little bit of credit here they're on a

998
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,719
two game win streak and playing a little bit better.

999
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,320
But now you come into the opposing gym. There was

1000
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,119
a point where Saiven and a half Lang seven and

1001
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:04,719
a half with green Bay would look like a ton.

1002
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: To lay.

1003
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: But green Bay, for what it's worth, has gone through

1004
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:13,519
a couple of games here where they've been able to

1005
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:20,280
do so. I'm not sure that I would lay at myself,

1006
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,360
but I am pretty sure that I would play total here.

1007
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:31,480
Both sides are fairly high scoring Wisconsin. Green Bay side

1008
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:35,239
has tried to slow down tempo a little bit. But

1009
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,280
the problem for Green Bay and remember with these tempo numbers,

1010
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,719
you got to look at both ends of the floor.

1011
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,440
They give up shots rather quickly. They're slow on their ends,

1012
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,960
slow and methodical, but they're fast on the other end.

1013
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,719
In Cleveland State likes to pick up pace, so I

1014
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,639
could see pace here. Cleveland State's played three games, four

1015
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:56,400
five games in a row now that have exceeded this total,

1016
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,559
which just tells me that they're a certain style at

1017
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,719
this point in time. So for me, it would probably

1018
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,000
be more of an against the grain. Look at this

1019
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:11,639
total going over rather than inside. First game does hit

1020
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:16,760
one sixty one. Green Bay showed no problem dissecting that

1021
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,320
defense of Cleveland State. So for me, I think I

1022
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,920
would look that way at them. Didn't play it on

1023
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,920
the card, but I think I would look toward game

1024
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,679
going over here should be a nice night in that

1025
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,119
building for UWGB.

1026
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is this is another one kind of

1027
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,800
similar to Saint Louis for me, where it's like I

1028
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,039
don't know if I like it's kind of a bad number.

1029
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,800
Like in my opinion, you're being asked to lay quite

1030
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
a bit. But I also think sometimes the books shade

1031
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,599
in this regard when they kind of like want you

1032
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:48,000
to stay away from a certain side, right like like

1033
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:50,440
when they're they're almost like enticing you to take the

1034
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320
dog in a little bit, because that's literally what they're doing.

1035
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,760
They're shading, right they want They're like, we prefer your

1036
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,480
money to be on Cleveland State here. We don't really

1037
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,400
want you cashing your ticket with Green Bay. We're gonna

1038
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,440
make it tough for you to do. So, how did

1039
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,719
Cleveland State beat Right State over the weekend? That? Or

1040
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,639
I'm sorry last Wednesday, So it's actually it's been nine

1041
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,920
days since Cleveland State played And I gotta be honest,

1042
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,039
rob that one. I either forgot about it or missed that.

1043
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,280
But their first road win, they were zero to nine

1044
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,920
on the road going into the Right State game, and

1045
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,760
they won it as a sixteen point underdog outright Like,

1046
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:32,239
I don't know how that happened. And it followed them

1047
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,719
knocking off Youngstown State. I believe they were like an

1048
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,800
eight point dog in that game. So I don't think

1049
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,679
Cleveland State just magically figured it out that My gut

1050
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,119
would say that those two were you know, maybe a

1051
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:48,280
couple of big favorites kind of maybe not taking Cleveland

1052
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,960
State as serious as they should have. But I'll go

1053
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:53,320
back to that point. Cleveland State one and nine on

1054
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,480
the road. This team, of course, is in a is

1055
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,480
very much in a rebuild a Danielle Robinson and took

1056
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,000
the North Texas job, so Cleveland State is starting over

1057
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,039
with pretty much nothing. I expected them to be one

1058
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:10,960
of the worst teams in the Horizon this year and

1059
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,239
up until a week ago when they miraculously won two

1060
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,079
games as a huge underdog. They look just like that.

1061
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,840
So my concern for Cleveland State and why they're so

1062
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,800
bad on the road. They're going to turn the ball

1063
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:29,599
over like crazy. They've been doing that all season. Like there.

1064
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:31,519
I just there's no way they win this game.

1065
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: Run.

1066
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: There's just no way they can't win again as a

1067
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,360
huge underdog on the road when they were zero to

1068
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,000
nine before the Right State upset. So my gut says

1069
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,679
green Bay probably wins this by double digits. They figured

1070
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:48,280
it out in the second half of that game. In

1071
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,800
the first meeting, that was a three point game at halftime,

1072
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:53,039
and I think green Bay dropped fifty in the second

1073
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:56,960
half and ended up winning by like fifteen, So not

1074
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,920
gonna make my card because I think it's a kind

1075
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,440
of a crazy number to if you're just if you're

1076
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,480
in the numbers, not teams camp again, but if we're

1077
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,079
talking matchups, green Bay at home, Cleveland State having to

1078
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,320
go on the road, Cleveland State one and nine on

1079
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,920
the road off of two big upset wins, I think

1080
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,320
Green Bay might might have have them, you know, down

1081
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,239
double digits early in this game, and I don't know

1082
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,239
if they can come back from that.

1083
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure how much changes from that first

1084
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,159
doubting and for what it's worth to get I'll just

1085
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,400
repeak Cleveland State's five and oh to the over their

1086
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,800
last five games, and it's not close to this one fifty.

1087
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: One that we're looking at here tonight.

1088
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:42,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bayo makes a good point sometimes, listen, Sometimes it's

1089
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,440
having a week off helps, like when you're super banged

1090
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:48,320
up or you need a reset, when you don't want

1091
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,719
nine days off. Is after you've just beat two of

1092
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,119
the best teams in the league. Right, if you beat

1093
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:54,599
two of the best teams in the league, you're playing

1094
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:56,639
good ball. Rob what happens you have a nine day

1095
00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:58,400
break and now and then you have to go on

1096
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,480
the road where you're one and nine. So yeah, that

1097
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,000
that doesn't seem like the best situation for what I

1098
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:08,400
consider to still be a bad Cleveland State team. And

1099
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,920
what Brian Power will tell you is a deplore. I

1100
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,239
believe he called him deplorable earlier this year. He goes

1101
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,239
to he was at one of those Cleveland State games.

1102
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,239
I think he might have been at the Youngstown State game.

1103
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:23,159
That arena is like fifteen minutes from his house. So yeah,

1104
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:25,480
not a good team, not someone that's going to get

1105
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,480
my money right here. All right, we have hit the

1106
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:34,079
hour mark, Rob and I will be back tomorrow on

1107
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,280
Last Call, the the Babysitter version. Kelly and Kelly in

1108
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,119
Vegas keeping us on task. We go quick. That's not

1109
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:44,679
the deep dive show. That's just rattle off opinions. There's

1110
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:48,920
one hundred games, so we'll be doing that tomorrow. Today,

1111
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,400
we're trying to get back to even on the parlay.

1112
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,559
We're also just trying to keep it going. I've had

1113
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,159
a really good week so far. I think I've had

1114
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,880
a good month, up close to thirty units in January,

1115
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,960
which is much needed. I did not have a good

1116
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,719
November or December. So I'm getting it back this month

1117
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,719
as I hoped I would. I'll go as far as

1118
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,800
to say Rob that I thought I would. And now

1119
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,639
here we are kind of cashing some tickets. So check

1120
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,679
our package out. Double the CBB Firepower, you get everything,

1121
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:20,119
I play everything. Rob plays for a three day stretch,

1122
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:23,599
any three day stretch and without further ado, the parlay

1123
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,519
of the day is Princeton plus five and a half

1124
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,360
and then Rob Bino is going with Sacred Heart team

1125
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,039
total over seventy three and a half, hopefully another two

1126
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:36,280
team winner. We'll see you guys in the morning. Good

1127
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,199
luck everyone, cash or tickets. We'll see you guys tomorrow

1128
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:41,119
on last call.