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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris was on a podcast recently, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting to me how the podcast choices of both

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, that they're both wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>appear on different kinds of media things, and the choices

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<v Speaker 1>they make that just seem to lean into the demographics

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<v Speaker 1>they think are going to get them over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump keeps going on all kinds of podcasts listened to

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<v Speaker 1>by young men, all kinds of different comedians and YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>influencer type guys that probably most of you listening who

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<v Speaker 1>are millennials or older, maybe it's not really in your wheelhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>but for sort of younger millennials and zoomers kind of

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<v Speaker 1>more in your wheelhouse. And Harris is doing very limited

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I mean, Harris is doing very limited

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<v Speaker 1>media in general, far less out there than Trump is.

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<v Speaker 1>But she goes on this podcast called Call Her Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think sort of started out of the Barstool

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<v Speaker 1>universe for those who know what that is, but then

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<v Speaker 1>sort of went off on its own. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young women listening to it. Now, this is interesting as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, to whom are the two sides talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris has a huge lead among single women, Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>gaining a bigger, bigger lead among men and single young

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<v Speaker 1>single men are leaning more and more into the Trump camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and I sort of wonder for Trump if how that

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<v Speaker 1>could go. I mean, no, one's probably a less reliable

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<v Speaker 1>voter than a twenty year old man, But if Trump

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<v Speaker 1>can get men like that out to the holes in droves,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that could be a hugely untapped on accounted

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<v Speaker 1>for by the pollsters number of people that could really

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<v Speaker 1>push Trump over the top at this point. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw a polling today showing Trump and Harris

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<v Speaker 1>in a dead split nationwide, which if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then Trump's gonna win pretty easily, but we'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be very close election still. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I thought was interesting was Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>goes on this podcast and of course she's leaning heavily

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<v Speaker 1>into the abortion thing. It's like the only It's so

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<v Speaker 1>dispiriting to me that how abortion is like the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing Kamala Harris has to run on that that it

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<v Speaker 1>seems for the most part, the nation likes her presentation

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<v Speaker 1>of what she believes on the abortion issue more than

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<v Speaker 1>they like Trump, and Trump has realized this and has

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<v Speaker 1>completely abandoned ship run as far to the left on

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<v Speaker 1>abortion as he can without completely alienating pro life voters.

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<v Speaker 1>So Harris goes on this show and she's asked about abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>and the host just is Harris is not going on

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<v Speaker 1>anything where she's getting anything other than complete total hanging

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<v Speaker 1>curveballs right over the plate that she can knock out

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<v Speaker 1>of the park, and even then she's not really knocking

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<v Speaker 1>things out of the park. The host asks her if

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<v Speaker 1>there's any law that tells a man what to do

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<v Speaker 1>with his body, the implication being that abortion restrictions tell

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<v Speaker 1>women what to do with their bodies, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent thing for any man, no equivalent thing for any man.

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<v Speaker 1>And Harris is like, oh, no, of course not. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no law like that that controls a man's body. That

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<v Speaker 1>only these evil abortion limitation laws. And I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Of course there are laws like that. They're

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred are and it starts to make me think

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<v Speaker 1>about law and sort of what the purposes of laws are.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, first of all, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>all of you have heard of this thing called the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Men have to register for the select service, which could

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<v Speaker 1>be the draft when they turn eighteen. Women don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a law that's definitely controlling our bodies in the

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<v Speaker 1>event of wartime. And these arguments about bodily auton that

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<v Speaker 1>women's bodies are. There's no place so many of these

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<v Speaker 1>abortion arguments, you'll have the most liberal people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world who favor all kinds of left wing restrictions of

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<v Speaker 1>every sort of ever, every shape, all every liberal who

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<v Speaker 1>was in favor of every kind and species of vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>mandate possible, just like three years ago, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to a law regulating abortion, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, let's remember, these laws regulating abortion are not

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<v Speaker 1>dealing just with one person's body. They are dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>a second body. They are saying, there is another human

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<v Speaker 1>being here whose life has value and for whom the

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<v Speaker 1>state has an interest. The state has an interest in

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<v Speaker 1>preserving the life not just of the mother, but also

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<v Speaker 1>of the baby. So we limit the practice of abortion

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<v Speaker 1>because it's directly killing this other living organism who is

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<v Speaker 1>just stating inside a mother's body. But this idea, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, liberals become the most extreme libertarians humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to abortion. The senator from Georgia, the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Senator from Georgia, Raphael Warnock, is like the worst

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<v Speaker 1>defender for this. His big line anytime anyone mentions abortion

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and he's an African American pastor, so people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how hypocritical his abortion position is. But his

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<v Speaker 1>big thing that he keeps saying is I just think

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor's office is too small for a woman, her doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>and the government. And that's his big line. That's his

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<v Speaker 1>big line that justifies everything, every that rationalizes his entire

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<v Speaker 1>view in favor of expansive legal abortion. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor's office is too small for a woman, her

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and the federal government. Or the woman, her doctor

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<v Speaker 1>and the government. Now this is insane on like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>different counts. First of all, Democrats regulate the healthcare industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and the healthcare industry is maybe one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>regulated industries in the entire universe. The standards according which

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<v Speaker 1>your hospital room was built probably was influenced by the

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<v Speaker 1>government dictating the very structure of the building. You're in.

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<v Speaker 1>The licensure process for the medical professional whom you are seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctor whom you are seeing is regulated by the state.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a state Board of Medicine governing it. The state

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<v Speaker 1>has all kinds of mandates. The federal government has all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of mandates for the kinds of drugs that your

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<v Speaker 1>doctor is prescribing or can prescribe or cannot prescribe. There

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<v Speaker 1>are layers and layers and layers and layers of state

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<v Speaker 1>and federal intervention present in any encounter at any doctor's office.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you on medical Well, guess what that's both the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government and the state government is therefore in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital room with you and your doctor. Medical requirements alter

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ways in which care is delivered. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, liberals all of a sudden become the

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<v Speaker 1>most extreme, make Ron Paul Blush level libertarians when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the question of the government telling me what

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<v Speaker 1>I can do with my body, and it makes me

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<v Speaker 1>think about law. Lots of laws, lots and lots and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of laws tell us what we can do or

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<v Speaker 1>cannot do with our bodies. Abortion gets singled out by

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<v Speaker 1>the left as if this is the only thing that does.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all kinds of laws regulating, for example, drug

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<v Speaker 1>use that tell you, hey, can't put this in your

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<v Speaker 1>body prescription drug abuse. Hey can't put this stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>your body. Hey, you can't help someone put this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in their body. There's example after example after example of

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<v Speaker 1>this that, and we justify it as good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a more classical justification of law. A classical definition of

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<v Speaker 1>law is that it is a dictative reason instituted the

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<v Speaker 1>general Actually that's actually been promulgated by a lawful authority

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<v Speaker 1>towards advancing the common good. The common good here does

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily mean okay, five of you think it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to beat up a homeless person, and three of you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's not okay to beat up a homeless person.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore the five people wins because that's the common good. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the idea of common good. That definition of

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<v Speaker 1>law was from Saint Thomas Quite, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a distillation of the classical legal tradition of from Greek

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy throughout the Christian philosophical tradition. The common law in

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<v Speaker 1>that sense was not, you know, five people think it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to, you know, beat up the slaves, and three

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<v Speaker 1>people don't think it's okay to beat up slaves. So

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<v Speaker 1>the five people went, No, the common good is basically

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<v Speaker 1>the good that is common to all, the shared moral

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<v Speaker 1>and ethical vision that's grounded in human nature, and the

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<v Speaker 1>goods towards which human nature is oriented. So in that light,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's your definition of law, then yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>have laws that kind of dictate what people do or

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<v Speaker 1>don't do. But this is a thing where I think

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<v Speaker 1>conservatism and the Enlightenment philosophy that animated a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the Founding Fathers kind of runs into tension with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Founding Fathers were very much influenced by the Enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 1>The Enlightenment was this sort of philosophical movement that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe during the sixteen hundreds of seventeen hundreds, starting

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifteen hundreds that was rejecting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the older order when it comes to ethics and ethics

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly philosophy of law. It was rejecting Aristotle, it

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<v Speaker 1>was rejecting Thomas Aquinas, and it was elevating newer thinkers,

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<v Speaker 1>newer thinkers like Kant when it comes to ethics, newer

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<v Speaker 1>thinkers like John Locke and Thomas Hobbes when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to philosophy of law, and they rejected the Saint Thomas's

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that there is one objective, no truth, there is

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<v Speaker 1>an objective, knowable human good that governments should order their

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<v Speaker 1>laws too. And instead they said, every single person should

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<v Speaker 1>be free to choose the good for themselves, and as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're not stepping on other people's toes, you

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<v Speaker 1>pick the good for yourself. That's the spirit that's animating

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris when she says, oh, we can't have a

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<v Speaker 1>law telling women what to do with their bodies now,

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<v Speaker 1>is she wildly hypocritical in this because of all of

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<v Speaker 1>the laws she does support that tell people what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with their bodies. Well, maybe, but maybe she tries

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<v Speaker 1>to rationalize it by saying, well, a vaccine mandate that

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't impact other people, So you need to do this

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't, you're impacting all these other people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're stepping on their freedom. So we need to impose

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<v Speaker 1>upon your freedom insofar as you're going to hurt other

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<v Speaker 1>people's freedom. And that's the problem is that there is

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<v Speaker 1>still an objective. There seems to be still not a

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<v Speaker 1>subjective moral good that Kamala Harris points to. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>got her own set of goods that she points to

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants to enforce in everybody else. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>acting like she's this total libertarian when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>laws regulating abortion, but not really. If you are a libertarian,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that hard to make an argument

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<v Speaker 1>against abortion. I mean that the pure libertarian argument for

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<v Speaker 1>that justifies law is everyone should be able to choose

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<v Speaker 1>the good for themselves. You're allowed to choose the good

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves as long as you're not stepping on other

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<v Speaker 1>people's toes. Well, abortion is the biggest act of stepping

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<v Speaker 1>on someone else's toes possible. There's another human being involved

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<v Speaker 1>who's getting killed in this procedure. But the thing libertarianism

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<v Speaker 1>can't answer is what is the moral status of that

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<v Speaker 1>human being? Do we care about that human being? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that human being who doesn't know his or her own

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<v Speaker 1>good yet a valuable rights bearing member of the community

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<v Speaker 1>whom we should defend. And this is kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>libertarianism falls apart. They don't really have a great account

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<v Speaker 1>for that. That's why probably a lot of libertarians you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to, or ethical libertarians you talk to, probably most

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<v Speaker 1>of them are in favor of abortion because they view

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<v Speaker 1>the adult as important. They view the adult who actually

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<v Speaker 1>has an understanding of his or her own good as

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<v Speaker 1>far more important than this unborn child. So in short,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually a lot of stuff, you know, Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>coming on a show and saying, now, there's no law

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<v Speaker 1>that tells there tells men what to do with their bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to being completely nonsensical, there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>right at the very least, leaving it up to individual

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<v Speaker 1>away from the Bible and towards the Enlightenment. I'll dig

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<v Speaker 1>into that a little bit next. This is the John

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<v Speaker 1>are no laws that control which is like, well, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of laws control everybody's bodies, and also there's the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and you're an idiot. But it's also making me focus on, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the purpose of law, What is the point

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<v Speaker 1>of law? What is law? What is the philosophical justification

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<v Speaker 1>for law? And the classical justification of law is that

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<v Speaker 1>it is a dictate of reason, issued by a legitimate authority,

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<v Speaker 1>ordered towards the common good. And the common good here

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<v Speaker 1>is not understood. As you know, five people think it's

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<v Speaker 1>think it's okay to beat up homeless people. So therefore

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<v Speaker 1>the five people win. No, the common good is the

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<v Speaker 1>vision of the good rooted in human nature, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the goods towards which human nature is ordered, including our

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<v Speaker 1>The natural law, the law that is part of someone's nature.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Saint Paul himself referenced. So this has been the

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<v Speaker 1>tug of war within christ within conservatism. Conservatism as in

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<v Speaker 1>American slash British post Glorious Revolution political rightsm that reacted

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<v Speaker 1>is this tug of war between on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>Enlightenment thinkers who think that law and right within government

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<v Speaker 1>is a question of preserving every individual in their individual

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<v Speaker 1>choice for what the good is for themselves. So the

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<v Speaker 1>government gets everyone latitude to choose the good for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no common good. Every individual gets to choose the

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<v Speaker 1>good for himself, and the government's there just to say

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<v Speaker 1>safeguard your ability to choose the good, but just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you don't step on other people's toes. That

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<v Speaker 1>is libertarianism in its loosest sense. Everyone gets to choose

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<v Speaker 1>what's good for themselves. There's no objective right and wrong

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<v Speaker 1>out there. The government's just safeguarding your ability to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, is again this classical vision rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in things like the Bible and American conservatism has been

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<v Speaker 1>in a tug of war between the Bible saying there

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<v Speaker 1>is an objective truth and libertarianism saying we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what objective truth is, so just let everyone choose the

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<v Speaker 1>truth for themselves. I think we're seeing this tug of

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion issue. Before twenty twenty two and the bad

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<v Speaker 1>election results of twenty twenty two, everything was pretty clear

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans were anti abortion. Republicans thought abortion was bad, Abortion

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. Republicans supported federal restrictions on abortion. Republicans supported

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<v Speaker 1>a constitutional amendment safeguarding human life. It was right there

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<v Speaker 1>in the Republican platform. Look at the twenty sixteen Republican

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<v Speaker 1>as regulating, limiting, cutting off abortion funding, et cetera. We

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<v Speaker 1>had one bad election cycle in twenty twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has reacted to this by running to the left

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<v Speaker 1>on abortion, saying he doesn't like Florida's six week abortion limit,

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<v Speaker 1>basically limiting abortion only to the first six weeks of gestation.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks there should be more weeks. But the big

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<v Speaker 1>thing Trump has said is he keeps saying this for

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<v Speaker 1>individual He's not even saying I am pro life and

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<v Speaker 1>I think abortion is wrong. He's just saying, I think

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<v Speaker 1>every state should vote on its own. Let the will

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<v Speaker 1>of the people completely decide the abortion issue. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>libertarian approach. His notion of the common good is what

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<v Speaker 1>the people decide to do, what the people decide to do,

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<v Speaker 1>getting abortion to the states, to the votes of individual states,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what he is proposing as what's right. Let

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<v Speaker 1>everyone be free to choose the good for themselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we have this situation. I mean, I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the common good does not mean five people

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<v Speaker 1>want to beat up homeless people and three people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore the common good is beating up homeless people. But

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<v Speaker 1>that is the situation that Trump is sort of praising.

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<v Speaker 1>Within the states. Fifty one percent of the state favors

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<v Speaker 1>the legal killing of children, who are just stating forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent oppose it. Therefore, we're going to kill them

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the common good in that state. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being overly harsh about Trump's views on this, but

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has been very explicit about saying, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>support the ability of states to vote on this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree having states vote on it individually is

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<v Speaker 1>better than what we had before. It's better than the

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<v Speaker 1>Roe v. Wade regime, where we had the worst possible

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<v Speaker 1>laws unabortion imposed on all fifty states. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, John Paul the Second wrote about this pretty extensively.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that the value of human beings

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<v Speaker 1>should be left up to a democratic up or down vote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what the common good is. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>is knowable, that should be respected. That that's and that

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<v Speaker 1>laws that don't respect that lose their legitimacy as law.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of I think, really deep philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>especially the abortion issue. When we return. An interesting piece

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<v Speaker 1>about Proposition four, a bond measure for funding climate stuff

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<v Speaker 1>ill defined next on the John Girardi Show. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good piece that's been published by cal Matters. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's about Proposition four and this lead up to the election.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to do more pieces like this, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>doing kind of a deep dive on one specific ballot

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<v Speaker 1>initiative or another. And Proposition four is I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>very description of it, but he State Senator Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of digging into this a little bit more. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me give the first the first backdrop for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>Proposition four is a bond measure to provide ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing you should know is that it's a bond.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate bonds, and I think I basically will

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<v Speaker 1>take a generalized approach that I am voting no on

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<v Speaker 1>any bond measure ever. And I think it's a problem

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't actually know what a bond is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people hear the word bond. But I bet if

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled all of the tax bank, all the voters

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<v Speaker 1>of let's say, City of Fresno, and I said, define

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't actually define it for you. They kind of vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>and they hear, oh, it's a Because right now we

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<v Speaker 1>are all of you listening to this, we'll be voting

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<v Speaker 1>on I think within the sound of my voice, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this election cycle. All right, for me, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>on my ballot. I've got Proposition four, which is this

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get the exact number. So if you're voting four

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<v Speaker 1>or against a bond, you better know what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a voter, you should know what a bond is.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me define it. A bond is a loan

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<v Speaker 1>to a governmental entity a city, a county, a state,

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<v Speaker 1>school districts or community college districts. Bonds get paid through

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<v Speaker 1>your property taxes. Okay, So it is a loan to

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<v Speaker 1>a governmental entity that the taxpayer must repay. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you get with a loan. If there's a loan, then

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<v Speaker 1>you got to repay it. And if there's a repayment

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not all at once and there's interest, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>are thirty year terms and they have a certain interest rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've got a local school district, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>take Clovis Unified. Okay, I live in Clovis Unified. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've got it's a four hundred million dollars bond

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<v Speaker 1>measure that's on the ballot. Okay, we've gotta so here's

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<v Speaker 1>what will happen. We'll vote for this bond measure. If

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<v Speaker 1>it passes, Clubs Unified gets four hundred million bucks, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>But somehow we got to pay that back. So the taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 1>the property tax payers within who live within the boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>of Clovis Unified School District, they have to pay that

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<v Speaker 1>loan back through their property taxes over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years with interest. So it's not really a four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollar bond. Yeah, that's what the school district gets.

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<v Speaker 1>The taxpayer has to pay four hundred million dollars plus

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years of interest. Meaning by the time we're done,

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<v Speaker 1>we might wind up spending seven hundred or eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to get four hundred million dollars worth of benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>President Unified, it's got a five hundred million dollar bond measure,

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<v Speaker 1>largest bond measure in President Unified history. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a billion dollars paid by the taxpayers. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>bonds from a certain perspective are pretty In a f

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of fundamentally why I don't like them.

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the over time and with inflation that that

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<v Speaker 1>number is not as damaging, but it's still this is

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<v Speaker 1>it is having your cake and then kicking having your

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<v Speaker 1>want to use for this, or simply you want to

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of delayed gratification. Now we're facing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bond measures this election cycle. The only reason we're

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<v Speaker 1>is because of Proposition two, which is a statewide ten

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar bond measure that all of us can vote

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<v Speaker 1>for or against. If Prop two passes and these local

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<v Speaker 1>bond measures pass, then the school districts will get additional

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<v Speaker 1>state funding. That's the only reason why all these local

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<v Speaker 1>school districts are doing bond measures. Right now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really in response to any genuine need. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that's what happens to be there, happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>a state bond measure, and these local school districts are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna if there's money from the state that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, we're not gonna leave that on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>And you get more if you match. Basically, basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>you raise local bond funding, you can get matching state funds.

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<v Speaker 1>So all these local school districts are Okay, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's pass a local bond measure. It's not actually a

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<v Speaker 1>response to need. That's why, coincidentally, not coincidentally at all,

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<v Speaker 1>every single school district in the Greater Fresno area is

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<v Speaker 1>doing a bond measure right now this year for November

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. It's because of this state bond measure. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about though, this environmental bond measure. This is

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<v Speaker 1>again State Senator Brian Jones, a Republican state senator. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>using your credit card to buy something, knowing that by

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<v Speaker 1>the time you finish paying off the debt, you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>spent nearly double the original price due to interest It's

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<v Speaker 1>a poor financial decision most of us would avoid. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>this is precisely what democrats in the state legislature are

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<v Speaker 1>asking California taxpayers to do with Proposition four. Add ten

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in bond debt with billions more in interest

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for ambiguous, short term, so called quote climate programs.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear about what bonds are. This isn't free money.

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<v Speaker 1>They're Wall Street loans with high interest rates. The real

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<v Speaker 1>winners with bonds are wealthy investors, and the losers, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>are taxpayers. In February, California already had seventy nine billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in bond debt. Earlier this year, Proposition one added

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<v Speaker 1>another six point four billion dollars. Now we're Prop one

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<v Speaker 1>was funding some kind of like mental health th REEC

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<v Speaker 1>sources or something like that. Now we're being asked to

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder another ten billion dollars plus interest, this time for

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<v Speaker 1>supposed climate programs that are vaguely defined and in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases dubiously labeled. Guess who's paying for it all? You

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer. What's most concerning is that many items in

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<v Speaker 1>Prop four don't even meet the basic definition of infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a lot of how this is being sold

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<v Speaker 1>as Oh, we need new environmental, green energy infrastructure. Bonds

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<v Speaker 1>should be reserved for projects that offer lasting value, such

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<v Speaker 1>as roads, bridges, or water storage that will still be

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<v Speaker 1>useful decades from now, long after the forty year bond

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<v Speaker 1>payments have been made. Instead, Prop four will spend millions

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<v Speaker 1>on so called infrastructure for farmers' markets, things like pop

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<v Speaker 1>up tents, restrooms, and hand washing stations. It will also

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<v Speaker 1>fund workforce development end quote to help quote mitigate unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>end quote, which of course is completely unrelated to infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>and climate. To top it off, the bond also includes

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<v Speaker 1>grants for exhibit galleries at zoos and museums, and even

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<v Speaker 1>van pool vehicles for low income workers. Does that sound

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<v Speaker 1>like climate related infrastructure. While these programs may be worth pursuing,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be funded with long term debt. Again, bonds

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<v Speaker 1>should only be used for long term investments, not temporary

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<v Speaker 1>programs that will be gone before the debt is paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he talks about previous bond measures and their unfulfilled promises.

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<v Speaker 1>So he writes, in twenty fourteen, California voters passed a

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<v Speaker 1>bond measure that would provide billions of dollars, specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>water storage projects. Nearly a decade has passed, and despite

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<v Speaker 1>all that funding, not a single drop of water has

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<v Speaker 1>been stored. The promises made to voters have gone unfulfilled,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving many to wonder why Democrat politicians are asking for

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<v Speaker 1>even more funding now with Prop four. If they can't

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<v Speaker 1>deliver on their commitments from a decade ago, why should

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayers believe that another loan will result in anything meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>Before approving more borrowed money, voters deserve to see results

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<v Speaker 1>from previous investments. Bonds come with long term financial burdens

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<v Speaker 1>that eventually can cut into essential public services. Governor Newsom

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<v Speaker 1>has already declared a budget emergency due to the state's

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<v Speaker 1>spending outpacing revenue. California also faces a fifty six billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar deficit, and the addition of Prop fours bond debt

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<v Speaker 1>would only worsen the situation. What's even more frustrating is

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<v Speaker 1>that just two years ago, California had nearly a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollar budget surplus. Had these climate projects truly

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<v Speaker 1>been a priority, the state could have used a mere

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent of that surplus to fund all the programs.

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<v Speaker 1>In this bond instead, due to poor financial miss management,

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<v Speaker 1>voters are now being asked to approve borrowing money with

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<v Speaker 1>interest when these programs could have been funded with cash

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<v Speaker 1>on hand. Recklessly borrowing money for pet projects is not

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<v Speaker 1>just fiscally irresponsible, it's a disservice to California's taxpayers. With

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<v Speaker 1>upwards of twenty billion dollars in debt being added to

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<v Speaker 1>our state's credit card, voters should ask why critical services

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<v Speaker 1>like safe drinking water and wildfire prevention are not already

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<v Speaker 1>a priority in the the state's general fund budget. What's

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<v Speaker 1>in the budget that takes precedence over these essential needs?

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<v Speaker 1>What is in the budget he has that takes precedents

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<v Speaker 1>over these essential needs? Before expecting Californians to sign off

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<v Speaker 1>on billions in new debt which will ultimately come at

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of future generations, Democrat politicians need to answer

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<v Speaker 1>for their failures on previous bonds and why they can't

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<v Speaker 1>pay for these supposed essential services through the existing budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of sums it up. We shouldn't be voting for

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<v Speaker 1>more of these bond measures. And that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>this bond measure in particular seems like a real kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Democrat laundry list of things they like. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like kind of a slush fund that probably some

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<v Speaker 1>big time donors were sort of pushing and Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>just going along with it. And I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>thing with a bond measure is that it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the sting of just spending the money out of your

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<v Speaker 1>actual normal budgetary process. It doesn't have that kind of sting.

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<v Speaker 1>You get all the money up front, and you pay

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<v Speaker 1>the money slowly over time, but over time that builds.

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<v Speaker 1>That builds locally in the form of very high property

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<v Speaker 1>taxes that make housing more and more and more unaffordable.

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<v Speaker 1>Property taxes that it's not just paid by property owners

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, landlords will pass that cost on to

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<v Speaker 1>renters in the form of higher rent. So again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you see the word bond, vote no. Vote

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<v Speaker 1>no as fast as you humanly can. Vote no on

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<v Speaker 1>Prop two, Vote no on Prop four, Vote no on

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<v Speaker 1>your president, unified Clovist, unified stations, inner community college bonds.

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<v Speaker 1>Just vote no. Tired of trying to get money up

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<v Speaker 1>front and pay for it over the course of forty

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<v Speaker 1>years and you're spending twice as much when we return

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<v Speaker 1>a completely unimportant story about Beyonce and Taylor Swift. Next

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<v Speaker 1>on The John Girardi Show, this is a completely unimportant,

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<v Speaker 1>little celebrity thing about Beyonce versus Taylor Swift. So, Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift has had this incredibly popular over the last year

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<v Speaker 1>or two, She's kind of exploded in popularity. She's had

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<v Speaker 1>this very successful tour where she was, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 1>for football arenas and getting gazillions of dollars in her

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<v Speaker 1>profiles really shot up, and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>liberals were uncomfortable with this because Taylor Swift's a white girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's obviously way more popular and famous right now

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<v Speaker 1>than any black entertainer, and more famous than Beyonce, who's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the most out of black female singers, divas whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, probably the most famous. So all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce comes out with a song called Texas Hold'em, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a country song. It's terrible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all Taylor Swift's music is terrible too. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's the most contrived thing possible. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the record label saying, see, we're not racist. Beyonce is good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got a country album. It's the most contrived thing

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<v Speaker 1>possible and the music stinks, but then again, Taylor Music's

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift's music stinks too. Anyway, that'll do it. John

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<v Speaker 1>Dirolady Show, see you next time on Power Talk
