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<v Speaker 1>For true fans of true crime, the Generation Why podcast

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<v Speaker 1>her husband on a romantic weekend that includes a murder

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<v Speaker 2>Wondering Well. Tonight, we're talking about a mysterious death that

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<v Speaker 2>happened April fourteenth, twenty twenty two, in Lynchburg, Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mysterious death was of a young man named Johnny Cashman.

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<v Speaker 2>I say young man because he's younger than me. He

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>This was in Lynchburg, Virginia. I've never been there, but

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<v Speaker 3>looking at photos and talking to people, it looks Virginia

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<v Speaker 3>looks beautiful and that town is you know, it's population

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<v Speaker 3>of around eighty thousand, so I think it's a quaint

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<v Speaker 3>town where you can still have a small town feel

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<v Speaker 3>and know people around you. People help each other out.

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<v Speaker 3>But by any town there is crime and other elements

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<v Speaker 3>that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So really this case starts off justin because Johnny's mother, Kim,

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<v Speaker 2>she hadn't heard from him since that day, so she

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to him on April fourteenth, which is in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, but then she hadn't heard from him for

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<v Speaker 2>a few days, and that worried her because she was

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<v Speaker 2>used to getting a text from him or a call

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<v Speaker 2>every day, if not more than one. Now, with his

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<v Speaker 2>having depression, that's always a fear right that maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>not wanting to talk to anyone, or we could imagine

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<v Speaker 2>something worse happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and his parents and sister, they all live in Maine,

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<v Speaker 3>which is hundreds of miles away, so they can't just

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<v Speaker 3>jump in their car and go visit him. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>long distance, so they their only communication is via phone

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<v Speaker 3>or text. When they don't hear from him, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bothersome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's five days later on April nineteenth, when Kim called

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<v Speaker 2>the Lynchburg Police Department and she said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to my son five days ago, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard from him. Since that is out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any way you could check on him? And,

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<v Speaker 2>as we all know, that means if the police agree

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<v Speaker 2>to it, that means they'll conduct a welfare check. And

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<v Speaker 2>at five forty five am, officers go to his apartment

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<v Speaker 2>and they knock, but no one answers the door.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Aaron, at five forty five or any time before

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<v Speaker 3>six am, I don't know if anyone's answering the door.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of us are going to be asleep,

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<v Speaker 3>so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, But credit to them. They do conduct this

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<v Speaker 2>welfare check, and then they come back several more times,

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<v Speaker 2>knocking and trying to get contact made with Johnny Cashman.

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<v Speaker 2>Now at eight am, they get a key to the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some concern here that because he's not answering,

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe something has happened where he can't answer. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if he's unconscious, or if he's not

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<v Speaker 2>willing to answer the door, or if there has been

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<v Speaker 2>a suicide attempt, and we hope not. But they gain

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<v Speaker 2>access to his apartment, what do they find inside?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, according to the police, they find Johnny lying on

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<v Speaker 3>his back on the floor. He's obviously dead. They see blood,

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<v Speaker 3>puddles of blood, but they determine that there isn't any

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<v Speaker 3>foul play.

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<v Speaker 2>The officers do speak with Johnny's family and they say

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like this was an apparent medical condition that

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<v Speaker 2>preceded his death. In other words, they don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 2>attacked him or murdered him.

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<v Speaker 3>His families obviously concerned. His father is asking was there

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<v Speaker 3>any signs of violence? Was it a suicide or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is John Cashman, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And law enforcements saying no, it looks very natural. And

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<v Speaker 3>they go on to ask if they think he suffered,

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<v Speaker 3>and the police will say no, it looks like this

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty instantaneous, which I don't know how they would

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<v Speaker 3>know that, but they're saying that he probably didn't suffer

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<v Speaker 3>and this was all natural. So Johnny's body is obviously

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<v Speaker 3>removed from the home and the family's asking about an autopsy,

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<v Speaker 3>if an autopsy's going to be done, and what do

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<v Speaker 3>the police and law enforcements say.

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<v Speaker 2>To that, Well, their response is no, the case is closed,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning they don't think one is necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a thing erin I had to go

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<v Speaker 3>look that up because I just assumed that autopsies were

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<v Speaker 3>always done, but it's not generally necessary, as the Internet says,

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<v Speaker 3>if the cause of death is known, meaning if somebody's

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<v Speaker 3>old and has a heart attack, or somebody you know

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<v Speaker 3>obviously has cancer or something to that effect, they say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no need for an autopsy. We can just take

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<v Speaker 3>the body and go ahead and cremate or whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do. And the family takes law enforcements word

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<v Speaker 3>that there is no need for an autopsy. This was

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<v Speaker 3>very straightforward and it was obviously a medical issue or

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<v Speaker 3>medical emergency type of deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So they make arrangements with a funeral home which is

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<v Speaker 2>located in Lynchburg, to have Johnny Cashman Junior cremated so

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<v Speaker 2>that they can bring his remains back to Maine his ashes.

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<v Speaker 3>They're having to do this all from Afar because they

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<v Speaker 3>live in Maine, so they're just making phone calls and

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<v Speaker 3>arranging this to be done. At no point has anyone

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<v Speaker 3>stepped foot into Johnny Cashman Junior's apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Not until April twenty ninth. That's when Johnny's ex girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and her mother go to the apartment to get a

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<v Speaker 2>few things. Now we don't know her name. She has

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<v Speaker 2>requested to remain anonymous, but she has spoken to the

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<v Speaker 2>media and this is what she said. Well, we open

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<v Speaker 2>the door and the first thing you see is an

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<v Speaker 2>abundant amount of blood in the bathroom, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>at all what they were expecting to see, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>right they say that the whole floor is just covered

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<v Speaker 2>in blood. There's blood on the counters, the sinks, the walls,

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<v Speaker 2>and the toilet, and there's even in other parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment. There's blood on doorframes, floors, walls, windowsill and

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<v Speaker 2>even on a chair. And there are streaks of blood,

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<v Speaker 2>including some that looked like they were left by fingers.

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