WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:40.560 Two games, but after Dark live from San Francisco, the 2 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.320 home of self driving cars, and. 3 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.280 Uh uh I don't know what else. 4 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:53.000 Some bridges, bridges we got, luke that all you got? 5 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.079 How much you know about your city? Yeah, that's that's it, right, 6 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.159 like driving cars and bridges. 7 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.400 We got bridges. But the self driving cars can't actually 8 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:05.840 go over there. It is true, they can't. 9 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:06.200 True. 10 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:08.439 Yeah. 11 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:08.599 No. 12 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:13.159 Uh. It's GDC week, which here in U in s 13 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:15.599 F which doesn't really probably mean a lot to the 14 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.519 audience at home, but that's the Game Developers Conference. It's 15 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:20.560 it's like one of the few things in our industry 16 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:23.000 that actually happens here in the city. So it's exciting 17 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:24.799 for us because it means we get to have developers 18 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:28.159 come in, which we uh have had throughout the week, 19 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:30.359 which means we've got a lot of cool stuff coming out, 20 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.040 but we don't get anyone here because uh, you know 21 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.760 who wants to be on this show anyway? Hi, kurtin Divina, Hi, 22 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:38.519 I'm Kurrent Divina. 23 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:43.840 Hey Holm was this damn it? I like half looked, 24 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:44.879 I like half looked. 25 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:50.200 I didn't even see your finger And that's Jacob Decker. 26 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:56.400 Hi. Yes, actually, well I was gonna ask if you've 27 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:57.920 done anything for GDC. But I guess I know that, 28 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.239 but the audience does. It's all pretend. I don't, Kurt, 29 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:02.200 have you done anything cool for GDC this week? 30 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:06.359 I've been locked in this room with me for basically 31 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:11.039 every single day of the week. So I have done 32 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.680 lots for GC, but not at GDC. I've not gone 33 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.080 to I've not been able to go to GC. I've 34 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.400 not been able to go to any talks. I've not 35 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:18.800 been able to go to the show floor, even though 36 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.479 the show floor would be just be showing, like would 37 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.879 be corporate people like, hey, you live and you should 38 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:27.919 come to Cincinnati. We'll give you a dollar to make 39 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.120 a game in Cincinnati. There's a lot of you know, 40 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.319 initiatives like that on the floor. 41 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:34.520 Do you make a game with a dollar in Cincinnati? 42 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.360 Talk to go to the booth, you man, I can 43 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:40.000 make some games. 44 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.000 Can give you a We'll give you a couple of games. 45 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.800 We'll give you a dollar and some skittles. Come on 46 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.960 live in Cincinnati and make games. Because every study's got 47 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.599 a game initiative like that. I don't know if that's true, so, 48 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:56.120 but no, we've I've been in here interviewing lots of developers, 49 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:02.680 seeing lots of games true hands on, hands off, some embargoed, 50 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:03.879 so you got to wait a bit. 51 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:05.719 Yeah, I'm exciting stuff. 52 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.000 Yeah, what about you? 53 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.400 You do anything around GDC? 54 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:09.240 Nope? 55 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:12.319 Cool. GDC is a. 56 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.159 Really weird one because I never. 57 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:21.039 Feel it's the Games Developer Conference, so uh, with that 58 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:25.360 title of mind, it's geared heavily towards game development, so 59 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.520 it's not your typical sort of showcase of games in 60 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:33.400 most cases, like in Summer Game Faster, you know, Rest 61 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.080 in Peace E three or something of that nature, or 62 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:36.879 packs E three is dead. 63 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:42.919 Richard all three of all Richard Lee in the office 64 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.319 I've been shot killed, turning me and I forget what 65 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.199 the conversation was, but he's like, bro, no one knows 66 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:50.400 what E three is anymore. 67 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:56.319 And I was like, is that true, Richard? Yeah? 68 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.120 The back and I kind of to think about it 69 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.199 where I was like, no, like what do you mean like? 70 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.159 And then I was like, when was like the last 71 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:07.039 E three twenty nineteen, yeah, which I'm like that six 72 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:08.599 years ago? And I was like, oh, I one and 73 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.520 only at least you made it to one. Yeah, you 74 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.879 know that that that is like a sizeable generation of 75 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.560 like people who play games that have like grown up 76 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.079 and like with no context of like E three not 77 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:26.360 experiencing it, like maybe they've heard about it but didn't 78 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:27.120 actually like care. 79 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:28.839 I mean, I don't think that. I don't think people 80 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.000 who are actively paying attention to care about it. But 81 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.879 I think no, I have faith in those young's They 82 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.639 want to know, like where did we Where did I 83 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.000 come from? Where did where? What are my roots? If 84 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:39.720 they care about video games, at one point or another, 85 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.199 they'll look up a VHS YouTube rip of E three 86 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.160 in nineteen ninety five where they have the real Mortal 87 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.120 Kombat actors doing kicks and like booth babes and all 88 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.199 those things of the past, which most of it should 89 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:51.399 I think. 90 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.519 I think once like a YouTuber makes like a video 91 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.000 that's like what you would be there used to be 92 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.879 this thing called E three, they've probably already made that. 93 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:00.879 The mecca of gaming or whatever. 94 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:02.759 Yeah, and like it gonna be so good back in 95 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.920 the day, Like you're not gonna believe how big this A. 96 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.839 Four and a half our video essay? Yeah on the 97 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:10.480 booth babes. 98 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:14.040 Yeah, they say, like, don't give away my ideas? 99 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.240 Are you gonna are you going to become a booth babe? 100 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:20.800 Yeah, I'm going all in. 101 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:25.839 I mean I feel, look, who am I to say anything? 102 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.680 But I remember talking to a few, uh, I remember 103 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.120 having a conversation with people how like, obviously booth babes 104 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:36.639 are weird because it's a sexualized objective kind of look 105 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.439 at making women flashy on it and what was a 106 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:44.079 male dominated audience. But having spoken to some of those 107 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:45.839 and heard down the grape line for a lot of them, 108 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:47.959 it was a just a good gig. It was just 109 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.240 a good paying gig. But this is a this is 110 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:52.920 where my whole support for you know, if you want 111 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:53.600 to do that, you can do that. 112 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.319 Yeah, I think anyways, all I'm saying is like a 113 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.800 you know, like a local, like a co op owned 114 00:05:59.279 --> 00:05:59.959 booth babe. 115 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.160 Yeah, like industry, like. 116 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:02.959 You know, with proper health insurance. 117 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:03.199 Yeah. 118 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:04.920 Game show. When I went in twenty eighteen, they were 119 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.079 doing Japan. I'm sure Japan as well, because because even 120 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:09.959 like my first three is twenty fifteen, and I think 121 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.199 at that point there were like virtually no booth babes anymore. 122 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.519 But then I went to a Brazil game show and 123 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.120 I was like, all right, this industry is still alive 124 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:19.519 and kicking in Brazil. 125 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:21.680 I support and empower anybody who wants to be a 126 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:23.480 babe of any gender. 127 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.600 Or booth men like the techan boys. 128 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:29.920 Oh oh yeah, christ those were some summer some summer 129 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:31.920 game fest. Like the best part is like so summer 130 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.839 game Fest, there was these two tech and men who 131 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.279 are so fucking ripped. I think we like all have 132 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.240 pictures of them, but I didn't. I was too intimidated. 133 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.120 People believe they weren't real. Like there were somebody who 134 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.720 was like that that's a that's not that's a statue. Yeah, yes, yeah, 135 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.720 everyone thought that's a real human breathing person with muscles. 136 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.000 Yeah yeah, they were that fake looking. 137 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:52.959 I saw them there and then I saw them again 138 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.439 that EVO. They were also there for EVO, and I 139 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.879 was like, look at it. I'm like, I hope you're 140 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.519 going to be at every trade show I go to 141 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.360 now and son, I just see those tech and boys 142 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:03.480 right there. 143 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.360 So yeah, anyways, no booth babes a GDC as far 144 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.279 as we were because I didn't. I didn't walk the 145 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:11.279 show florid and see them unless they're made of AI. 146 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.040 Mm no. 147 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:16.439 Uh. 148 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:19.279 This is podcast about video games. 149 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.920 We've been talking about it, and we we we've been. 150 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:23.920 Playing some mm hmm. 151 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.000 Should we talk about the big one this week? 152 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:26.759 Well? 153 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.879 Wait, what is the big one? Yeah? Because there are 154 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.759 two big ones? Sure, well, what's to come out till 155 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.959 next week? But the embargoes up, embargoes up. 156 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.519 There's like the big one and then there's like the 157 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.439 bigger one for us probably in terms of. 158 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:39.920 US three, US three. Yeah. 159 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.040 When he said the big one, only one game game 160 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:42.959 to my mind. 161 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:43.920 And that game is. 162 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.000 Why don't we talk about Adam Fall first? 163 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:48.319 Then well, hold on, why don't we? 164 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:48.839 Why don't we? 165 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.079 I I feel like we're gonna have a lot less 166 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.560 to say about the other game, you know, sure, so 167 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.120 I would say, let's talk about the other game that 168 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:01.680 starts in an a ass ass Ends Creed. 169 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.160 The band Shadows of the Damned. 170 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:10.199 Assassin's Creed came out. It's out right, it's out, It's out, 171 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:13.079 it's out. Okay, cool, you can buy it right now. 172 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.399 You can buy it right now. Jordan Remay reviewed it 173 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.279 for us on game Spot gave it an eight out 174 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:18.759 of ten. 175 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:23.839 Assassin dude, Jordan has played every fucking Assassin he has game, Like, 176 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.120 actually played them, Yes, actually finished them. And then the 177 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:29.959 best part is if you watch the Game Spot show 178 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:32.600 which Jordan Remy is on, where we talk about Jordan's 179 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.200 review of Assassin's Creed, It's almost like every time I 180 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.360 said you've played all of them, Jordan was like, why 181 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.240 are you? Why are you putting on? Is it not 182 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.799 true that you've played all the Assassin's Creed games? 183 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.519 Like I don't understand, I'm not shaming you or was I. 184 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.000 Anyways, continued only uh no, Well, I was gonna say, 185 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.360 if you want to hear Jordan's opinion, you should go 186 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.200 watch that episode of the Game Spot. Never watching it, 187 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.519 I find it okay. So I think Jordan I would 188 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.759 What I would say is I think Jordan's review is 189 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.039 the perfect review. If you're somebody who is very I 190 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.000 would say similar to Jordan, because I think there's like 191 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.600 two kind of camps with Assassin's Creed. Now there's people 192 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.759 who you know, are like I, I love Assassin's Creed, 193 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.360 I know what it is, I'm okay with what it is, 194 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.399 and I just want, you know, more of that, or 195 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.440 I want it kind of like you know, like within 196 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.480 that sphere of Assassin's Creed, right, because it's like I 197 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.279 think it's easy to kind of dunk on Assassin's Creed, 198 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:32.759 but like it is popular, and it's popular for a reason. 199 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:33.320 People like it. 200 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:36.679 Jordan likes that kind of game, and I think if 201 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:40.960 you are into that, like Jordan, is like a good 202 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.600 metric for like, is this going to scratch. 203 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:44.360 That itch for you? 204 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:48.720 The person who likes Assassin's Creed? And I do not 205 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.480 mean like that's not me being like I'm not trying 206 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.279 to be derogatory or anything like that. I don't know 207 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.240 if I'm coming across that way, but like no, like 208 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.279 I mean that, like Jasony, like you know, it makes sense. 209 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.799 This is all the set up my perspective, me the 210 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:07.679 person who once really liked Assassin's Creed. I loved Assassin's Creed. 211 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:09.039 Did you just walk around with like a hood? 212 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.320 I did have an Assassin's Creed T shirt at one point, 213 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:13.840 but you did you do the hood? No? 214 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:14.559 Cool? 215 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.919 No, I didn't do that because that's not because that's 216 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:18.399 not very. 217 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.919 Cool, because you like you didn't jump off a building 218 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:22.399 into and went like to. 219 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.559 A hay Band spider man. 220 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:37.600 Man Peter Parker who Peter parked that ass over there? Assassin. Yeah, yeah, 221 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.039 you could have been you could have been a come on, 222 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.279 you got a hood on it right now, you gotta. 223 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:42.440 Throw it up. 224 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:43.480 And this is like. 225 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:46.320 An assassin. I don't know what they do. 226 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:48.879 It's oh my god, I can't see you. 227 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:52.120 The crowd once again for has tricked you into doing 228 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:53.240 an impression of God. 229 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:58.720 Dammit, yeah do is Enzio? 230 00:10:59.279 --> 00:10:59.679 Let's see you? 231 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.519 Sure do you do that? Well? 232 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.399 I don't even know. It's he's just like Italian assassin man. 233 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.120 I'm not gonna do that. No, no, you do it. 234 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.519 You're Talianule. 235 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.279 Never played an assassin's creed game. 236 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.519 What do you think the Italian assassins man? Sounds like 237 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:21.039 fucking mean you stuff fun, get the funk out of 238 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:21.559 my way. 239 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.519 And he's you know, it's just like shaking people in 240 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.159 the streets, throw me balls all over the place. 241 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:30.360 I think I would have liked Assassin's creak. That was it. 242 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.360 I'm fucking walk in here? 243 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.559 Is that what it's like? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he's done 244 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.279 by It's voiced by Sonic guy, right it is. 245 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.320 Yes, Yeah, it's gotta go fast, Roger Craigs. 246 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.080 I'm gonna asassinate you for there. 247 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.679 I'm coming for you. Pope is a pope. 248 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:49.639 There's a pope in the one? 249 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:51.759 Yes, yeah, I would you fist fight the pope in 250 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:52.039 that one? 251 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:54.039 Damn? 252 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:55.399 Should I please? Game? 253 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.039 No, because you only do it. You gotta play like 254 00:11:58.080 --> 00:11:58.639 fisty hours. 255 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.759 I mean, the pope is barely standing on two feet 256 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:02.919 right now in real life. So if there's any. 257 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:04.559 Time, yeah, I mean the pope, the pope is like 258 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.240 in his deathbed when you show up and just start watching. 259 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.039 Got all right? Cool? 260 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:11.879 Anyway? 261 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.759 I did at one point like Assassin's Creed and used 262 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.000 to wear hoods and used to wear hoods and and 263 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:18.279 say get out of here. 264 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:20.879 I want to come up and I you, You're not 265 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:22.679 gonna know what the fucket you. 266 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:27.919 But eventually, you know, the lester wore off. I don't know, 267 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.080 I just kind of did it. I think four was 268 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.799 the last one that I was like really enjoyed, which 269 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.759 was Black Flag, and then and then after that they 270 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.840 were like we're making two at once, and I was like, 271 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.399 oh a, didn't you. 272 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.679 Unity and Rogue and where were you. 273 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:48.799 The day of Union and Rogue released? 274 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:51.399 I don't know. 275 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:57.519 What a question, that's the least question. Wanted me to 276 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.799 ask that to Jordan because I knew where I was 277 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.240 where were you just behind the counter at a game stop. 278 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:05.240 It was the worst fucking day of my life. 279 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.320 Oh, that must have the people up with hoods and 280 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.799 like yeah, and confuse Grandma's being like not even But 281 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:12.240 that's the thing. 282 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:13.879 It didn't didn't have. 283 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.159 To be confused, Gramma. It could just be like normal personally, 284 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.000 like hey, I'm going to pick up then Assassin's Creed. 285 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.840 I was like, what one and they're like, I don't know, 286 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:23.879 the one for Xbox, like Xbox or six yr Xbox one, 287 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:25.519 like you have like a series like you know, like 288 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.720 deduction you had to go through in order to do it, and. 289 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:29.519 You should just like everyone a little piece of paper, yeah, 290 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:31.759 like a little checklist, and they like checked the books. 291 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.600 Then there were the older folk who were buying them 292 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:36.679 for their kids, and it was like that's when I 293 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:38.600 got real confused because there was like actual they don't 294 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:41.279 know what the system they have. Yeah, So it was 295 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:41.759 a nightmare. 296 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:46.200 Imagine working at game stop when the Xbox series X 297 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.759 and S came out, or the Xbox One, or you know, 298 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:53.360 just working at a game stop. Yeah, probably, mm hmmm. 299 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:55.440 Do you want to put five dollars down towards the 300 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.919 pre order. Oh god, I hate that all right, as 301 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:00.200 that's great shadows. 302 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.559 Anyway, Okay, the whole reason I was setting this up 303 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.279 was to say, like, I am no longer someone who's 304 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.720 you're a lapsed fan, a lapsed fan, but I always 305 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.320 pop back in to be like, maybe this one will 306 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.759 rekindle the lost magic. You know, it'll it'll get the 307 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:21.360 spark back and it and it's not happened. And unfortunately 308 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.000 for me, I played like four hours of this game 309 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:25.519 and I went, I don't I don't want to keep 310 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:25.840 playing this. 311 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.960 Did you even play as both protagonists? 312 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:33.559 No, kind of because as right, start off Yosk at 313 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.240 the very beginning for like like twenty minutes and then 314 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:40.120 switches to no Away, the other protagonist, and then you 315 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:44.200 just keep playing as an Away for like twelve fifteen 316 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.559 hours until finally Yoske comes back into the story. So 317 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:49.480 I didn't even get to that point because I was 318 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:53.919 just like, nah, I'm good. It's really weird, how much 319 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:57.679 like the opening of that game feels like this is 320 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:00.519 like why is there two protagonist. 321 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:00.559 In this game? 322 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.399 Like it's just seems like that was Jordan's per review. Also, 323 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.759 by the way, since we are doing this live. If 324 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.799 you do have questions in chat, oh yeah, uh, drat 325 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.320 them in chat and then we will answer them at 326 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:14.039 the end of the show. 327 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.000 Yeah, where we're going to build up some questions. If 328 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.679 you have questions regarding either Assassins created, anything we talked about, 329 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.879 or whatever, the whole question. 330 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.840 Yeah, if you want to share a lemon bar recipe. 331 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:31.159 No chat, I want to know where you were. Yeah, yeah, Evin, 332 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.399 was it like August seventeenth, twenty twelve or something twenty fourteen? 333 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:39.279 I think fourteen? That was off thirteen, fourteen fourteen, because 334 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.360 twenty thirteen was black Flag, wasn't it, because that's when 335 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.000 that there was a launch title with the Xbox One 336 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.879 in PS four which came out twenty to twenty fourteen. 337 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.039 You are correct, I mean you were correct. 338 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.440 I just still it from me. 339 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:59.879 I'm just like, yeah, yeah, November twenty fuck. 340 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:12.320 Nikki's November fourteen twenty fuck. Okay, great, okay, November, thank 341 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.000 you Nick, Thank you Nikki. 342 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:15.120 Thank god. 343 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.559 I was so in the last minute plot twist. I've 344 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.320 played two and a half hours of Assassins. Whoa yeah, 345 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:27.399 expense to copy, thanks Jan And you know what I 346 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.320 like it? Oh you do? No, Actually, I haven't played 347 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:32.759 enough to actually give like an opinion. 348 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.840 But one day you've even gotten past the tutori. 349 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.360 Well that that was my favorite thing because before I 350 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:39.039 played it, you pointed out You're like, yeah, this game 351 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.320 has two tutorials for some reason, and I'm like, huh. 352 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:43.200 And then you play it and it has straight up 353 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.440 two tutorials, like for just the basic combat. 354 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.399 And it's like, should I get into my my theory, 355 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:49.360 my theory. 356 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.039 Jordan also has a conspiracy theory. 357 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.399 Okay, I'm gonna get into my conspiracy theory for this game, 358 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:58.240 So play this game. I'm gonna also, sorry, I am 359 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.440 going to straight up spoil the first like two hours. 360 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.200 But I'm going to spoil the opening of this game, 361 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.519 so if you care about that, just gip ahead, you know. 362 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.359 I like, yeah, live. 363 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:17.079 Funk off like whatever exactly opening of the game. He 364 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.799 plays that way, and her village is being attacked and 365 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.559 and like her her dad gets killed, and that is 366 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:26.640 the the. 367 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.519 Well sorry to spell something, yeah I really care. 368 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.640 And that and that is like the crux that like 369 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:39.480 sets off this entire journey where she like seeks revenge 370 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:42.640 against this like group of people that murdered her dad 371 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.599 and you're playing it, and you're like, okay, like whatever, 372 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.640 it's weird because like the dad has this like really 373 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.240 long extended death scene that's like you're really supposed to care, 374 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:57.960 but I'm like, I've just met the dad like two 375 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.319 minutes ago. I don't really care. 376 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:03.200 Sorry. They're like all right. 377 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:10.680 Then it proceeds to flash back and then start setting 378 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.680 up the Dad afterwards, and you're like, oh, that's kind 379 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.480 of weird like that you're like now introducing all this 380 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:19.200 like setup for the Dad afterwards. And as Jake pointed out, 381 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:22.000 at this point, you've you've done a couple of like 382 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.960 gameplay sections as nowway that are kind of satorializing, like 383 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.240 combat and stealth. When it goes into the flashback, the 384 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:33.480 dad goes and now we will do our morning training, 385 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.599 and then it goes into a training sword and you 386 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:42.400 do like a training combat tutorial for the combat that 387 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.039 you've already been doing and it doesn't teach you anything new, 388 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:45.759 And I'm like, well. 389 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.519 And it straight up teaches you that at the beginning. 390 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:50.319 When you play as Yaske too, yes, it is like 391 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:52.720 slightly he feels slightly different, but it's still the same 392 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:53.720 buttons you're hitting. 393 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.839 To do exactly, so you're like, why hold on, why 394 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.400 am I doing a tutorial for combat? I already know 395 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.559 this is weird. And then the flashback continues, and then 396 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.440 it kind of just like abruptly ends, and you're like, okay, 397 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:08.599 all right, I guess I have a little more context 398 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:09.720 for the dad now whatever. 399 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.960 It doesn't it end after you eat breakfast or something 400 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:14.039 too like that. 401 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:16.200 It's weird. It like it ends in a very like 402 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:17.839 abrupt way, and you're like, that was kind of awkward. 403 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.400 So then game keeps going for a bit. You finally 404 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.319 get to the the like you can now explore the 405 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:28.960 open world. The tutorials done, the setups, there go the 406 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:33.480 One of the first things you find is this like shrine. 407 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:34.960 It's like right next to the opening area. 408 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:36.440 I go up to the shrine. I'm like, oh, that's 409 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:37.599 the thing, let's go up to it. 410 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.240 You do this little mini game where you like meditate 411 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.400 and like hit some buttons and. 412 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.799 You met you meditate and press buttons while you're meditating. 413 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.799 It's not meditation, I know, it's I actually find that. 414 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:50.200 I mean the game very aggravating. I don't find it 415 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.880 very meditative, but meditating is supposed to be You're not 416 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.559 supposed to be rhythmic. You're it's like boom boom, and 417 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.079 it's like little chimes are happening. It's supposed to be peaceful. 418 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.400 Put the damn controller. Don take a deep breath in 419 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.119 breath life anyways, Okay they should They could have used 420 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:08.079 you the like microphones, like they hear you breathing in 421 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.000 h So then you do this minigame and then suddenly 422 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:17.000 it goes to another flashback that continues exactly where that 423 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.599 last flashback ended. So breakfast or yes, like you know, 424 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.680 right after breakfast, people are attacking the village. This is 425 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.039 all like you know, two years before, and you get 426 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:31.720 more tutorialization of the combat, and then you're like and 427 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:36.440 then it abruptly ends and that sequence is over. You 428 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:37.960 go back to the open world and you're like, Okay, 429 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:41.759 that was weird, And then every time you go to 430 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:46.279 a shrine, it does another one of these flashbacks. What's 431 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:50.720 really weird is that these flashbacks feel extremely well produced. 432 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.400 They are like full on like story cut scenes, but 433 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.359 the game is not telling you that, like it's not 434 00:20:57.480 --> 00:20:59.680 pushing you towards these it doesn't even like on the map, 435 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:01.799 it's not like, hey, you should really go check this out. 436 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:06.039 It's just a thing you discover and every time you 437 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.880 do it, it's the same thing. Like cuts back to 438 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.039 where the flashback ended, kind of awkwardly has a tutorial 439 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:13.960 section that's like, now you're kind of learning stealth, and 440 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.359 now you're doing this, and you do it like five times, 441 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:19.960 and then the last one it stops right where the 442 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:26.799 game begins with her village getting attacked. My conspiracy theory 443 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.640 is that, oh, all of this was supposed to be 444 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.000 the intro to the game, and they cut it all 445 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:38.559 out and then sprinkled it throughout because they realized that 446 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.680 the opening would have been way too slow or something 447 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.519 like I don't like, I'm not I don't know anyone 448 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:47.240 at you be soft, like I'm not gonna like confirm, 449 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.440 like I have no idea. This is just a theory 450 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.200 playing this game, but you play it, it feels so 451 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:56.599 awkward and like why am I doing these in it? 452 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.240 You could potentially play this without ever you couldn't. 453 00:21:59.240 --> 00:21:59.920 You could skip them. 454 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.319 You cannot experience where you could find them, like hours 455 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.960 in and being like, oh now I'm just to sneak. 456 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.599 Here's now how to sneak, And here's the back. 457 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:09.160 It's so bizarre. 458 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:10.480 It's really bizarre. 459 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.440 It's really bizarre, and like because you play it, those 460 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:15.720 those flashbacks and you're like, well, this is at least 461 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.119 giving me context for like who the dad is and 462 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.759 her relationship, and like it makes the part his death 463 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:26.599 at least, you know, makes sense. It's very strange. I've 464 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.559 never seen that in a game before, where it's like 465 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:34.240 so obviously like feels chopped up, you know, and like 466 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:36.000 they just like maybe I don't know, maybe they had 467 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.599 like some sort of epiphany of like, h like it's 468 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.559 just not working, but like we also don't want to, like, 469 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.240 you know, we all put all this hard work into it. 470 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:44.720 I don't know, I don't I don't want to get 471 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.319 overly speculatively about it, but like it's just I think 472 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.559 it says something that when you play it, it feels 473 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.400 weird and disconnected and yeah, it just feels off. 474 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:56.599 I mean, even with all all that out in the beginning, 475 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:58.240 I feel like for the two and a half hours 476 00:22:58.279 --> 00:22:59.680 I was playing, I never got to the point where 477 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.319 it's like explore, like I felt like it was still moving. 478 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:04.519 It a very oh I agree. 479 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:06.359 Yeah, So it's like part of me is like I'm 480 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.160 glad they that stuff wasn't all in the beginning, because 481 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.680 I also was like get moving. And as we'll talk 482 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.240 about with Adam Fall, that game just like falls, like 483 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.240 it kicks you out the door, Well, you kick a 484 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:18.880 guy and then you go out the door, and then 485 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.480 it's like all right, here you go, and then you explain. 486 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:25.480 What Assassin screen shadows feels like. And then I just 487 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:28.039 played like forty minutes of Adam Fall. It is the 488 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.759 absolutely opposite liked. Game opens guys like I'm bleeding out 489 00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.400 and you can choose to help him, but apparently also 490 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.240 Jan Luke and Jake, really you actually don't have to 491 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.559 help this dude. You could just kick him right in 492 00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.839 the face, take his key, and leave, and that's exactly 493 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:43.400 what I And then the moment you walk out, you 494 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.079 like beat up a guy and then world open no 495 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.160 like no direction, no like hud at the point you 496 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.799 where to go. So two big games this week, ye, yes, 497 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:55.200 well no one of them is a big game. One 498 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:56.039 of them is kind of a. 499 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.599 Sleep double somewhere between Double A and Triple A. 500 00:23:59.759 --> 00:23:59.920 Yeah. 501 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:01.680 I will say it seems like we're about to like 502 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.680 kind of change subject. But there are some things that, like, 503 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.400 I've kind of been enjoying an Assassin's Creed even though 504 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.079 I'm not very far, I can already tell like, after 505 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.079 I do it, you know, three or four times, I'll 506 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.480 be bored. But I do like the combat. I think 507 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:20.119 the combat is it's not like super intense or crazy, 508 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:21.759 but it does feel like the best version of this 509 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.960 combat that they've been doing for a while for the 510 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.640 most part. Like there's still some weird like floatiness to 511 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.519 it that I've never really been a fan of, but 512 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.240 I think like it feels pretty good to play. The 513 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.400 stealth I'm enjoying. The stealth feels way better. I like 514 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.400 the grappling hook how you can just kind of like, yeah, 515 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.440 climb up anywhere. And I also think this game looks incredible. 516 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.359 I've been playing it on Ultra Wide. Well, certain things, 517 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.519 like some of the cut scenes, some of them are good, 518 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.039 some of them are okay. But like the world itself, 519 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:54.440 I've really been digging, especially the season changes, Like I 520 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:56.079 don't know how much of that adds for gameplay. I 521 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.160 know that was kind of a big maybe not a big, 522 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:00.799 but like a marketing point was like, oh yeah, seasons change, 523 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.920 it affects the gameplay upon that was you could swim through. 524 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.359 Now you can slide on or whatever. Right, cool, But 525 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.799 I think visually that's really cool, and I kind of 526 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.119 wish more games would play with seasons in a way that, yeah, 527 00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.599 this does maybe like a more dynamic more a more 528 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.599 dynamic game could have done something cooler with it. I 529 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.400 haven't played enough to really say yeah, but I'm probably 530 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.640 gonna play a little bit more, at least I think 531 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.480 because for me, like, I played the first Assassin's Creed 532 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.400 and I thought was okay. I tried the second, did 533 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.240 not like it, tried Brotherhood, not a fan for some reason, 534 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:35.839 played all of three even though I didn't like it, 535 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:39.759 played a little bit of four but liked it but 536 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.319 didn't love it like and then just kind of like 537 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:44.640 didn't play any of them until Origins, which I actually 538 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.440 really liked Origins. I thought Origins is probably like the 539 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.720 last decent story they've had in an Assassin's Creed game. Yeah, 540 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.039 but that's another thing I've heard about this Assassin's Creed 541 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.279 is and just U BEI Soft Games recently. I think 542 00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.240 Skillett mentioned it in his review, but I definitely noticed 543 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:00.920 it in Star Wars out where they do this thing 544 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.599 where they like have like a very story heavy setup 545 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.000 and then there's no story for thirty or forty hours 546 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:07.799 and then it's like, okay, now we have story again 547 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.039 at the end, and like it just throws pacing up 548 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:10.920 the Yeah, it like. 549 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.559 Forces you to like do things in any order. But 550 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.359 because of that, it's just throwing like characters and like 551 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.240 that they just come like so fast and heavy and 552 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.680 you don't remember any of them. I definitely feel that 553 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.640 with this game, where all of the dialogue and all 554 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.079 the characters were just like going over my head. I'm 555 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.599 just like I don't care about any of this, Like 556 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.519 I find it extremely dull and boring. I agree with 557 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:36.839 you that I think like the stealth is actually like 558 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.079 pretty good. It does feel like they finally have like 559 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.240 come back around to emphasizing stealth in a major way, 560 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.839 which Assassin's Creed has not done for a while. And 561 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.279 because to me, it's like it's called Assassin's Creed like 562 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.759 it was built with the idea of like stealth, so 563 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:54.000 like stealth, you know, seeing them kind of like put 564 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:58.519 another an emphasis back on that is nice, but it's 565 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:02.480 just not doing anything new enough for me that I 566 00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.319 found myself. You can go prone quickly, Yeah, you can 567 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:06.759 go prone. 568 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:07.599 That's cool. 569 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.839 You know, they're like, oh, we should do that, like 570 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:15.519 you know, we like, no one's gone prone in forever, 571 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.279 Like where could that be. It's not like we have 572 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.000 a franchise where a guy went prone. 573 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.799 No, okay, all. 574 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.279 These years and they finally were like, what if you 575 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:31.160 laid down, if. 576 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:35.960 You laid down, took a nap, It's fine. It's just 577 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.680 it's I don't for me, It's just like it doesn't 578 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.839 do anything interesting for me. But I'm just like I'm bored, 579 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.039 and I don't want to keep playing it. 580 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.920 You know what I do want to keep playing Adam Fall, 581 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:51.599 which is the new. 582 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:54.279 Rebellion. 583 00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.839 Yeah I was my brain went RPG, but I that's not. 584 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:00.519 I don't It's not an RPG. It's the new game 585 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.200 from Rebellion, which revival game. The survival kind of but 586 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.240 it's not of survival and like drinking water and eating food, 587 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.599 you know. Yeah, it's it's the new game from Rebellion, 588 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:12.200 the people who made Sniper Elite, which I've actually never 589 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.359 played a Sniper Elite, so I have no they're good. 590 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.000 I have no frame of reference for like how much 591 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.720 of this game is taking from those games. Like I'm 592 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.000 coming into this very like fresh to this developer, but 593 00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.599 I think this game like is like amazing, Like I'm 594 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:32.720 I'm really really into it, Like I know the the 595 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.920 the the tagline that like, because when when someone first 596 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:39.519 told me about this game, because I never heard of it, 597 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:40.720 They're like, oh, yeah, it's like a it's like a 598 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.440 Fallout type game. I was like, oh, okay, it's not 599 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.920 like a Fallout game, which is so adult, but I 600 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.960 mean it's it's I'm the closest comparison I would say 601 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:53.720 is Stalker or like far Cry too, Like it kind 602 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.519 of has more that elements where everything is very like deliberate, 603 00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.960 everything is paced, a. 604 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.759 Lot of shit working. Again, yes, there's a lot of. 605 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.440 Friction in the game in a way that is I 606 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:10.440 find like so like engaging where it's like, you know, 607 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.279 like combat is like difficult. You can die in like 608 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.440 a hit or two. You know, you have limited ammo. 609 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.200 You you have to like think on your feet, and 610 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:24.400 there's like interesting little I don't know, uh, like immersive. 611 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.079 It has like immersive kind of like moments that you 612 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.119 get out of like a like a far Cry game 613 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:29.799 or like that. 614 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:31.519 I only I've only played like forty minutes of it. 615 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:32.720 But the one thing I do want to talk about 616 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.599 and go back to it is like I think last 617 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:35.799 week or a few weeks ago, I was at a 618 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:41.400 bitch fest about the fault three opening and nonsensical and weird. 619 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.400 That is like, so, I'm so proud of you for 620 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.039 being a boy. I'm so proud of you for here's 621 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:46.640 your own. 622 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.160 Pity, here's your own pit boy. 623 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.880 And then you deal with the bully who's like cockroach. 624 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.240 Here's a baby, gone boy, go shoot up can or 625 00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:56.759 two and it just takes like fucking and you take 626 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:58.920 a test. You take a goddamn test and it takes 627 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:00.559 like an hour and a half get through, and then 628 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.160 you get outside. And by the time I do the 629 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.039 im like I'm fucking done. I don't want to be 630 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.680 a part of this. I was this game the hinjhow to. 631 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.319 This game is like ten minutes and then you are 632 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.799 shoved into the open world. You're like, go, we're not 633 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.559 telling you shit. That's all you get, and like hear it, 634 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.640 like that's like it's not comparable to fall Out anyway, 635 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.680 but it's funny to hear this comparisons like be like 636 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.920 you should start up find them fall and compare that 637 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.559 to it. But that's the opening because this game just. 638 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.920 Goes and it's and from there it's extremely open end. Yeah, 639 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.039 you know you can you have an opening area, but 640 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.400 you can go to any of the little areas in 641 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.160 the game. Like immediately there is like it gives you 642 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.079 like a direction to go in with the story, but 643 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.759 like you can totally ignore it and just do something else. 644 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.240 And like I went on a completely like tangent that 645 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.400 I thought was just like I'm doing a side thing, 646 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.519 and then it wrapped back around to the main story 647 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.839 and I realize, like, oh, I think I just unlocked 648 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.039 a path to lead to like one of the game's 649 00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.839 alternate endings, like and like that's awesome, Like like no 650 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.759 matter what I do, it does eventually like very naturally, 651 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.680 just like loop you back in like the main objective. 652 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.960 That's what I was gonna say. It feels like because 653 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.279 I was exploring the first area somewhat thoroughly and I 654 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.440 felt like I found multiple clues that like pointed me 655 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.880 towards my objective, even if I was just off the 656 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.960 beaten path doing something else, and I kind of like 657 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:25.000 that natural sort of quest development, I guess, especially compared 658 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.519 to something like we just said, it's not like Fallout, 659 00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.200 but like the whole like just marker on the map 660 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:32.559 and it's like you go and talk to the guy 661 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:33.799 and he's like, you do this for me, and then 662 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:35.279 you go do it and come back and talk to him. 663 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:35.440 You know. 664 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.240 Yeah. I mean, I guess to explain what anfhol is 665 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.279 because we really haven't. I mean, do you wake up 666 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.920 at music? Is that the whole thing? Like do not 667 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:42.240 know what's going on? Or do you. 668 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.440 I don't think you know what's going You're not supposed 669 00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:47.680 to know what's going oka. I think you just wake 670 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.960 up and you're like where am I? 671 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:50.920 So you wake up this guy and has math Suit's 672 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:51.519 like I'm believing. 673 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.279 Now you gotta give me a bandage and if you me, 674 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:55.759 you help them, if you're Kurt. 675 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.920 Well, it was great because the punching that game, I 676 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:03.400 just immediately and has ragged. 677 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.160 All to the one and then I realized we bashed 678 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:06.799 against the door and like broke his neck. 679 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.519 But when you punch in that game, it's just two 680 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.960 fists on screen, just like just like going back and forth. 681 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.720 It's not there's no rhythmic sort of fighting. It's just 682 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.839 like you just kick and kick and go. You will 683 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.440 get attacked by birds in this game too. 684 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.480 When you're like a murder of Froze. 685 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.759 There's something so goofy throw or throw your weapon at them. 686 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:29.319 Yeah, And. 687 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:31.920 That was the other thing is like, once you get 688 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.480 into the world and it's open to you, all you 689 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.720 get is a strange phone call from a phone booth. 690 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.440 That's like, oh my guy, that's it. That's all you get, 691 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.079 and you're out. You gotta go. And it's more or 692 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.559 less you said this in your preview, that's like a 693 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:48.440 detective game, like you're more so investigating what the fuck 694 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.880 is going on, and you actually get like leads that 695 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.200 then take you to different areas. But like I only 696 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.000 had small hands on time with it, so I was like, 697 00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.599 I'm just gonna push whatever this m is to my limit. 698 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.519 And I was I can't play cricket bats like throwing 699 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.599 them over my head at these dudes when you stuck 700 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.720 a knife in a guy's face. Yeah, when you get guns, 701 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.599 they're all rusty and fucked up. And as you point out, uh, 702 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.359 it does the Peter Jackson King Kong game thing where 703 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.559 you have to check your AMMO to know how much 704 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:23.400 like you actually have to like h so you're not 705 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.160 there's I don't know, there's there's this sort of like 706 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.640 a dancy sort of thing you do where you can't 707 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.440 you're not just constantly reloading your gun because you're not 708 00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.799 actually seeing how muchmm you have in the first place. 709 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.039 Heerio. 710 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.240 It's more methodical, I guess in that way. And I 711 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.640 don't know, like I'm excited to play more. I have 712 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:47.720 no opinion opinion yet other than I fucking saw a 713 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.559 group of dudes just doing their thing and I threw 714 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.880 a Molotov cocktail at them. It was the best feeling 715 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:52.319 in the world. 716 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.160 But there is one of the most effective Molotov cocktails 717 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:57.720 I've seen, thank you very much, thank you. 718 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.200 And there were like six people and they were in 719 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.680 a puddle. They could have just laid down, but that 720 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:09.119 it's not that type of immersion. But uh, the the 721 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.599 and the and that brief moment, it was just like 722 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.480 really good to play in an opening of a game 723 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.440 that at no point told me that I had to 724 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:16.000 do anything. 725 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:16.320 Yep. 726 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.480 It was just like, go, You're in the world, figure 727 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:18.800 it out. 728 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:19.039 Go. 729 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.719 I like that, And from what everything I played so far. 730 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.599 It just it keeps that spirit going like it it 731 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.320 has not at any point been like hey, you gotta 732 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.480 go do this, like you know, it's like a main objective, 733 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.239 but like the way you get there is up to you. 734 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:40.320 Another thing I really love is the there. So there's 735 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.760 the open world areas. In each area I would say 736 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.360 like has a very different like flavor to it, not 737 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.599 just visually but almost like the way enemies are populated 738 00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.679 with like allies. So like the first area feels very 739 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.599 just like okay, it's full of bandits. It's kind of 740 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.719 here to give you like the basic flavor. But then 741 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.280 you'll go to this other area and it's actually like 742 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.639 a village and it's like okay, like this is like 743 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.079 there are no enemies here. Technically it is like an 744 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.199 open village where you can go around, you can like 745 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.039 talk to people, you can get quests and edit, but 746 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.000 also you can at any point kill anyone, like you 747 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.639 can kill all the major quest givers. 748 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.559 Yeah, there was like there was a saddle his guitar 749 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.679 as a guitar and he was like, well, I'll see 750 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.239 you later, and I was like, can I kill this guy? 751 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.400 Like Kingdom ten times? Like I don't know if I can. 752 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.039 So then it took out a gun and shot in 753 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:32.840 the face. I was like, oh, yeah, I can kill them, 754 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:33.119 all right. 755 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.320 Yeah yeah, one of the major quests that I did 756 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:36.960 that led to that, like, oh, I think this is 757 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.599 an alternate path. Like there were multiple moments during that 758 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.599 quest where I could have like abandoned that quest or 759 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.400 like antagonized them or just on my own decided to 760 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.840 like you know, snap their neck or whatever, which is 761 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:50.960 like awesome. 762 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:51.960 I just love that game. 763 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.039 Lets you do that, and it's like fine, like yeah, 764 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.320 I keep going yeah whatever. I mean, even like down 765 00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.559 to like some of the some of the like mechanics 766 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.800 you may not even get because like you haven't found 767 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.000 the metal detector, which is a pretty key part of the. 768 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.559 Game to find a flashlight. 769 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.000 Yeah, like you don't have a flashlight and you have 770 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:08.760 and you found it in like ten minutes. And it 771 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:10.000 took me like an hour and a half to find 772 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.039 a flashlight. So I was just like you, blundering through 773 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.199 dark corridors trying to figure out where I'm going. Yeah, 774 00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.679 and you just find it right away. 775 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.280 And the flashlight works like the Doom flashlight where you 776 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.960 can't have the gun and the flash light out at 777 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:21.440 the same time. 778 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:22.000 I love it. 779 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:27.480 It's oh so good there there you mentioned dark areas. 780 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.960 I will say one thing that I have not loved 781 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.760 about this game or found like a little bit of 782 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:38.719 friction with is in a bad way, is because the 783 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.000 combat can be so brutal in how quickly you die. 784 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.679 There are some areas where I just get shot out 785 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.320 of nowhere and I had like no context for it. Yeah, 786 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.679 Like that can be like a little annoying where you're 787 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.920 just like, okay, I don't even I didn't even feel 788 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:56.440 like I was given the opportunity to see this enemy 789 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.920 and not in like not in like oh they ambushed me, 790 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.079 just more like is that a guy over there? And 791 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.239 all of a sudden, it's like and you're like, I'm dead, 792 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.760 and like that can be a little frustrating, especially in 793 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.639 like I went to this castle and there's like an 794 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.840 underground you know, cavern in there, and like that area 795 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.480 is like so dark and you can barely see. And 796 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:17.920 there were times where I'm just like I feel like 797 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.840 I'm just kind of stumbling around and getting killed in 798 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.679 a way that wasn't as fun, nothing like game breaking, 799 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.599 but like that moment, I found the game to be 800 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.920 like a little like, eh, it's okay, or like you know, 801 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.159 the enemies can can sometimes, I don't know, be a 802 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.920 little brain dead in a way that can be where 803 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.400 they just like rush you or you know, like so 804 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.239 I wish that stuff was like a little stronger because 805 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.960 I think it would make the game, I don't know, 806 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.119 like feel like in comparison to other games that I 807 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.960 think I've done it better, like a Stalker or or 808 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.119 like a far Cry, like that feels like just not 809 00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.679 quite as up to stuff as those games. But it's 810 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.679 by no means like a huge distraction. It's just like 811 00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:04.079 if I had to come up with a thing that 812 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.000 I a criticism so far, it would be that. 813 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.119 There are like because I remember in my preview one 814 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.360 of the criticisms I guess ahead at the time was 815 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.559 the AI because I could they especially melee, people would 816 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.079 just charge me and I just kick swing kick swing. 817 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.000 But I feel like it it's not maybe it could 818 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.280 just be in my head or maybe now that I've 819 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.000 played more, it's like a little different. But it doesn't 820 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:26.960 doesn't feel quite as bad as it did during that 821 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.480 preview because even like when I was watching you play 822 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.920 and you got flanked. Yeah, that was I don't really 823 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.719 I don't think that happened when I was playing it before. 824 00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:39.000 It could have just been the situation I was in, Nick, 825 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:39.599 you are you okay? 826 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.480 There's a hand coming from a dark I'm I'm, I'm, 827 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.320 I'm I'm shocked. So while the while they're doing whatever 828 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:50.679 they're doing. Uh, yeah, there was a there was a 829 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.039 moment when all these enemies were coming through like a 830 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.920 small doorway, and I was like, I got these, I'm 831 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.679 gonna just funnel these through, and all of a sudden, 832 00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.760 a dude like ran around the other side of the building. 833 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.199 It's like a little thing that other games have done, 834 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:00.760 but still it. 835 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:01.800 Just was like, oh my god, jeez. 836 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:02.360 Yeah. 837 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.000 So I feel like maybe there's like moments of it. 838 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.599 But then also like in that same encounter, I think 839 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.280 you saw a guy on the horizon. 840 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.599 Like oh yeah, yeah, we were a dude through a trap, 841 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.880 which I was like, but then he just kind of 842 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:18.519 was on the hill go this way, No fuck, you 843 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:19.440 want to go this way? Just kid. 844 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.280 It was but I will say they have the enemy. 845 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.159 AI do one thing that I think is like so 846 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.199 so simple, but like say bloody, yeah, every every video 847 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:31.119 game they should. 848 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.199 All go bloody you you throw a cricket bat. 849 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:38.079 No, it's it's when they, uh, they don't immediately attack you. 850 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.239 Oh you know, like you'll like encounter them and they'll 851 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.480 be like, hey, back off, and if you back off, 852 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.480 they're like, yeah, that's right, and then they keep going. 853 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.480 And I like genuinely love that because I think about 854 00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.920 other games like of like a Fallout where it's like 855 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.519 I don't know, you're running across a bandit and they 856 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.760 just immediately like time to kill you, and like, I 857 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.800 don't It's just something as simple as like, you know, 858 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.880 because because when that happened, you're like, yeah, you're a 859 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.320 video game enemy. But the fact that they like have 860 00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.760 some level of like self preservation of like we don't 861 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.679 necessarily want to pick a fight with you, we just 862 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.039 will if you like get in our space is like 863 00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.480 very subtle, but a very like cool thing that I'm 864 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.599 just like, I think every video game that like should do. 865 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.760 That more sure. I'm I'm really curious to see if 866 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:24.599 that like develops, because I know when I was talking 867 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.280 to the director, he was saying that, like there's a 868 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.480 faction system and if anything, it's sounded like that's probably 869 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.559 the thing that was most inspired by Fallout far from 870 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.400 Vegas in particular. Yeah, I'm curious to see like how 871 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.320 that sort of stuff affects gameplay. Like I wonder if 872 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.519 you know, you piss off one faction enough, they're not 873 00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.760 even gonna give you like a hold on, let's step back, 874 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.840 and they just you know, shoot on site. Yeah, versus 875 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.400 like one maybe you've buddied up with and they're like, oh, hey, pow, 876 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:50.840 what's up. 877 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.480 You know, he bro. 878 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.239 I've done a little bit of that and and it's 879 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.519 a little hit or missed for me, Like so and 880 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.519 went and I attacked the Druids, which were the like 881 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.639 weird force. So yeah, yeah, we're like, yeah, living in 882 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.039 the castle, and they're like the castle is their base, 883 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.480 so if you're there, they're gonna kind of agro more 884 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.840 immediately makes sense, you know, we're like an intruder attack 885 00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.679 your home. They're going to be more aggressive. After I 886 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.880 did that quest though, I did kind of keep going 887 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.639 and I eventually like sort of sided with their faction. 888 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.440 And and they forgave you. 889 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.039 Well no, that was kind of the weird part was 890 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.559 like it seemed like they did and for this specific quest. 891 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.800 It was like, hey, like they're cool, they're not going 892 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.599 to attack you. And then it's like you're with them now, 893 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.199 and I'm like okay, like great, and then I'm like 894 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.440 I'm going to leave now. And then immediately as I left, 895 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.360 like a bunch of them attacked me, and I was like, okay, 896 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.280 so I thought we were cool, but then it seems 897 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.519 like it's not, or like maybe it just wasn't clear 898 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.000 on how that worked, but yeah, it seems like they 899 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.559 still wanted to kill me anyway, So sure, what's up 900 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:00.800 with that. 901 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.039 The one thing I'm curious about that I noticed pointing 902 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.679 this out, it's like people in these gangs, like Norwegian 903 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.880 the ones, I uh, look like like these Yeah, I 904 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.360 look like these Norwegian death metal dudes with like white 905 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.000 face paint black things, like like black paints, smeared down. 906 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.639 They're wearing like crazy feathers. They look like birds, they 907 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.360 look like crows. They look like they've been living in 908 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.360 the wild, and they're acting like they're wild. But the 909 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.199 moment I like killed them, I realized they had like 910 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.519 really clean dap, like really close like faded damper haircuts. 911 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.599 I was like, what's what's going on? 912 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:32.840 Here. 913 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.280 Why, like, are these guys this is what they do 914 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:35.880 on the weekends. 915 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.079 It's that British plaiting here and then they just yeah, 916 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.320 they're like yeah, like back off. But then during the 917 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.119 week they're just going to their normal desk job. 918 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:44.920 I don't know what's going on. 919 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.079 So anyways, I have nothing to add to that other 920 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.320 than I'm curious. 921 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:50.679 You know, hair develops. 922 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.480 Yeah, how why are these why are they taking so 923 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.719 much time to look fucked up? But then they spend 924 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.000 all this time getting their hair cut and combing it 925 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.079 properly and putting proper hair products. 926 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:02.519 In it unless. 927 00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.159 They're reused assets from Sniper Linked. 928 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.039 Oh oh, I don't even think of that. Damn. 929 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.880 I will say the game can look a little rough 930 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.639 on the character models. Sometimes some of the faces maybe 931 00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:23.159 don't look as a as A I don't know, expressive, 932 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.199 expressive or or like highly detailed is maybe you would 933 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.119 expect in twenty twenty five. But I think the art 934 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.840 direction more than makes up for it, especially in the 935 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.519 environmental details, like you can tell it's not it's more 936 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.559 double a I guess, But I think it still absolutely 937 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.960 is punching above its weight in terms of like the 938 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.000 art direction and also it's like I don't know, I 939 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:46.280 think I care less and less about it. 940 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.840 I don't give a shit over Like the game is 941 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.519 very sharp looking, as we were saying, like there's there's 942 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.400 just a lot of actually a lot of grain, but 943 00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:56.280 you know, if you squint your eyes through that blur, 944 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.880 that blurry vision, you see a really really well designed sort. 945 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:01.559 Of vista in world. 946 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:03.960 But I don't know, graphics never make or breaking experience 947 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.039 for him, No, I agree, but it was enough that 948 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.559 when I still play the game and like went out 949 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.039 to the open world, the way the world has presented 950 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.079 to you with like that red phone booth box and 951 00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.000 like there's two of these press hills and like the 952 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.119 weird anomaly in the background and these uh and these 953 00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:18.679 like paths going in production, I was like, it's a 954 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:22.599 sick shot, Like yeah, awesome, so yeah, yeh point punch 955 00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.679 and above its weight, punch, above the atom all absolutely uh. 956 00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.719 So obviously still early kind of impressions on this game, 957 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.840 but it's like my biggest surprise of the year so far, 958 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.320 you know, like I like I knew like Monster Hunter, like, ah, 959 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.920 it's gonna be great, and does seem like this. 960 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:41.880 Game went from like nobody knowing what the hell was 961 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:42.760 to suddenly. 962 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.400 Like like, oh, I want to tell everyone to go 963 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:46.159 check this game out. 964 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.239 I mean especially you know, Sniper Leite Deaf like they've 965 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.280 been making They've made other stuff, but like they've been 966 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.320 making Sniper League games right long, and like this game 967 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.519 does borrow some DNA from it. I think when I 968 00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.440 was talking to the director, he had talked about how 969 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.039 that sort of open ended objective style they kind of 970 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.679 tried to carry over. But the difference was that Sniper Lead, 971 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:09.360 those open ended objectives are kind of just like a 972 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.840 localized just to one map, while this they were trying 973 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.079 to like have those objectives spread across the entire world. 974 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.199 I will say, like I've played some Sniper Lead. I 975 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.280 do like those games. They're kind of like hit Manny 976 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.599 in a way. But I think like you can kind 977 00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.039 of play with the environment a little more in Sniper Lead. 978 00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:27.480 There's a little more. There's a little more there's more 979 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.559 tools in your in your toolkit I think to like 980 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.840 really manipulate AI. And I think part of that just 981 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.000 has to do with how that game is designed versus 982 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.679 this one. This one feels a little more personal up 983 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.480 close and and because of that, I feel like your 984 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.760 kit might be a little more limited, but I think 985 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.360 it works. I don't think it needs to be like 986 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.400 this crazy immersive sim where you're doing all these wild 987 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.480 stuff with enemies. I think it's like a it's a 988 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.960 pretty good balance. I agree. 989 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.559 That's how we have a thing to talk about. We 990 00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.760 have a thing to talk about because if you've been 991 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:02.440 one this podcast, listen to this podcast orb and following, 992 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:04.800 listen to here us talking about something that we've been 993 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.360 working on for a really long time. It's finally out, Yes. 994 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:13.280 The Stalker documentary, How Stalker to Survived the War? Oh man, 995 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:14.199 where do we even start? 996 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:16.920 Finally it's on YouTube. 997 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.000 You can watch it. It's about forty five minutes long. 998 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:27.119 It documents let's see it, documents Jesse game World, half 999 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.719 the team that evacuated right before Russia invaded Ukraine, and 1000 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.440 sort of the ways they had to adjust and change 1001 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:42.599 Stalker two because of the conflict. God, I think I 1002 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:49.320 pitched it to the PR team in June of last year. Yep, 1003 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.679 we flew out in September. We shot it over the 1004 00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.119 course of a week. We came back, started editing layoffs. 1005 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.760 Lost Chris Morris, who was like pretty instrumental, and I 1006 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.880 mean still was throughout the entire project, but like you know, 1007 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.119 there was we had a plan and that plan just 1008 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.320 kind of like evaporated after that, so we I don't know, 1009 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.920 we got Richard's help and kind of pushed through. But yeah, 1010 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.960 I'm super proud of it. It's yeah, I don't know 1011 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.760 what else say. I feel like that was like a 1012 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:27.760 quick version of it. 1013 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.000 But yeah, I think there's just a sense of relief 1014 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.639 like it came out, you know, yeah, at least for me, 1015 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:35.760 there was a moment where I was like, is this 1016 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:40.320 gonna happen? I don't know, Yeah, but I'm really glad 1017 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:40.599 we did. 1018 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:41.159 I don't know. 1019 00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:45.400 It's just, uh, it feels very it feels like the 1020 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:48.039 most important thing I've worked on a game spot, which 1021 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:49.559 is like because like I don't know, we talked about 1022 00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:50.239 like silly. 1023 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.639 Video games, yeah, a lot of times, and it's just 1024 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:53.199 like like. 1025 00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:59.639 Stuff that's like not frivolous, but like like you're not 1026 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.519 gonna like it's not gonna matter in like a week 1027 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.599 or two, and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. 1028 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.760 That kind of stuff, Like I like doing that, but. 1029 00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:12.039 It's like this feels more like I don't know, there's 1030 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.880 like we're we're preserving and telling someone's story that can 1031 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:20.719 that can like live on for much longer and should 1032 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.719 be heard by people. So I'm I'm just really like 1033 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:25.960 glad we were able. 1034 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:27.920 To get I just want to give a big shout 1035 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.480 out to and Jake had already mentioned, but Richard Lee, 1036 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.760 who's in the credits for Stockertoon, is also in the 1037 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.719 back room. Richard is basically the reason why this thing 1038 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.039 like really got over the finish line, like all through 1039 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.719 like YouTube. You two actually went there along with Chris Morris. 1040 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.119 I was just like two of my thumbs most of 1041 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.559 this time. But I mean like I helped. I tried 1042 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.320 to do my best the way I can. But yeah, 1043 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.239 it was. If it wasn't for Richard, I don't think 1044 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.079 this thing would even really exist. 1045 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.519 So and if it did, it would have been no. 1046 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:56.719 Come on, Richard, it's. 1047 00:48:56.679 --> 00:49:03.880 More than a thank you, like come on, So yeah, 1048 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.960 to your point though, John Wick, it's I never describe 1049 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.039 this job as I never say I'm a journalist, even 1050 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.199 though like a lot of people call themselves games journalists 1051 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:14.960 and that's fine, and like I go and do a 1052 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.320 lot of what I'm doing with like journalistic content, you know, 1053 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.440 like the way I cover games, but I would never 1054 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:20.400 call myself a journalist. 1055 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.000 But I think this is one of the few projects 1056 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.639 that I've done where I was like, oh, this actually 1057 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.119 feels like I not journal It sounds bad. And it 1058 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.079 was like, this actually feels like journalism. 1059 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:36.199 But like you're gathering, yeah, gathering information, you're putting stories together. 1060 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.079 It's like you had the interview many people string something together. 1061 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.119 It wasn't a story that was just like given to 1062 00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:42.039 you on a piece of paper. 1063 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:43.199 You have to do research. 1064 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.880 You then had to go and like quantify the things 1065 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:47.840 you were saying with educational. 1066 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.199 Like yeah, got all this stuff fact. Well that is 1067 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:51.239 like that is the job. 1068 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.679 Like, that's what you have to do to be able 1069 00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:54.360 to make sure the story is being properly told and 1070 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.039 represented from all angles. That's being a journalist. So you 1071 00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:58.880 did it. Yeah. 1072 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.000 I think the biggest relief was like, after working out 1073 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:02.920 for so long and some of the some of the 1074 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.559 guys that you see game World saw it and they, 1075 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:09.440 i mean, like, is probably not what they described because 1076 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.760 reliving those memories I'm sure are terrible, but like they 1077 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.239 were happy with how it turned out and That was 1078 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:21.639 like a big relief for me because not that I 1079 00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.679 not that I was trying to like I don't know, 1080 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.440 I was worried something would be off or something would 1081 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.079 be wrong, you know, like you want to do it justice. Yeah, 1082 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.280 you know what. I feel like you did them a 1083 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.239 disservice in telling their story. Yeah. Anyway, give it a 1084 00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.199 thumbs up when you watch it, watch the whole thing through, 1085 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.920 leave a comment like juice that algorithm. Come on, let's 1086 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.639 let's get it on YouTube. Recommend them or too, uh. 1087 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.639 Like subscribe? No, what do you kids do these days? 1088 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.400 Share it with your mom or your guardian if they 1089 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.159 enjoy it or not. Nonetheless, I have make sure they 1090 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.280 watch it to the end, like share, subscribing, comment and 1091 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.960 all that jazz. But all that aside. I've talked about 1092 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.280 that game end they'll see and I'll probably wean off 1093 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:09.840 of it. But I mean, I also just think soccer 1094 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:11.840 two rules, so good game. 1095 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.519 It's true. Yeah, yeah, I was playing a lot more 1096 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.599 to capture for that thing, and I I played it 1097 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:19.159 some when it came out, but I didn't get to 1098 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:20.320 like really sit down and play it. 1099 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.559 And I was playing a lot more, and I was like, damn, 1100 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.519 a man, A. 1101 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.519 Man, Hey stalker, cool stalker man? 1102 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:33.519 Hey, hey guy, real cool you you shoot you killed stalker? Yeah, man, 1103 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.599 that's what they're always like, that's just my stalker. Every 1104 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:38.079 time I told that given to someone, I'm like, I 1105 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.360 have one guy that I quote basically, you're a cool 1106 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.559 stalker guy. Dude, Yeah, listened through his pants. That's a bug. 1107 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.599 I think they got rid of where they walk unfortunately. 1108 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:48.079 Yeah. 1109 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.519 Uh well, we're gonna start winding down this podcast. But 1110 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.000 do you want to ask do we have any questions? 1111 00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:10.840 We have any questions? It'd be real awkward to answers. Now, yes, 1112 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:12.760 oh great, where were you? 1113 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:19.400 And okay? Cool? 1114 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.920 Okay, great? So I mean, how do you have have 1115 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:30.039 enough time to cares the great question? Where were you 1116 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:30.559 playing it? 1117 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:30.920 Like? 1118 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:32.719 Where were you in that environment? Did you see like 1119 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:34.719 a do you get a letter that says, hey, this 1120 00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:42.559 is Creed Brogan un came out? What about it? 1121 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.920 Why we didn't even talk about it? 1122 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:57.400 No, get a job like Kirkland products. 1123 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.480 They are more Kirkland. 1124 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.320 Well I there. I do think they're toilet paper is 1125 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.920 pretty good. I'm pretty sure that's the toilet paper I 1126 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.119 buy is Kirkland. I have to go back at my 1127 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.920 at my corner market. That's the one I choose. The 1128 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:19.920 job done. I also have a good day. 1129 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:27.400 So I remember getting the the big peanut butter pretzel 1130 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:35.039 like the bins and and you know, destroying those is. 1131 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:41.039 Yeah, I think. I think like my favorite Kirkland product, 1132 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.960 hot You have the hot dogs? 1133 00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:44.920 Do they make hot dogs? 1134 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.119 Well, I mean Kirkland's Costco brands? It's Costco? Yeah? Wait 1135 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:49.760 do I hate? Wait? 1136 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.679 Then? Does is Kirkland carried at other places other than Costco? 1137 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:53.840 I don't know. 1138 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.840 I don't know, so maybe I'm lying. Do I tolet paper? 1139 00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:02.360 I'll have your toilet paper. 1140 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.320 My answer is the chicken bake rap? 1141 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:06.000 Okay? 1142 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.480 Cool, but you can't buy it separately anymore. They used 1143 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.039 to sell it frozen. It's a meme, right, you're doing 1144 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:11.360 the meme? 1145 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:12.000 Oh? 1146 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.639 I genuinely like the chicken bake rap? What's the meme 1147 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:14.920 about it? 1148 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.639 Don't worry about it after jan you got something else. 1149 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:18.599 Uh. 1150 00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.400 People are also asking your thoughts on the burger chain. 1151 00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.400 Red Robin gives a fuck. I've been there, questions. I've 1152 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.800 been there once and way too many. 1153 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:33.000 Times because Rochester, New York is a sad calling. Well 1154 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.679 in the suburbs is a sad culinary place, right, I've 1155 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:36.679 been there quite a few. 1156 00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.480 Times, if you remember anything about it. 1157 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.440 It's like the corporate you know, Russia's the Apple, Bee's 1158 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.320 and burgers or whatever. Like the chili is a burger 1159 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:47.079 is like sort of thing. 1160 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:48.519 Red Robin. 1161 00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.280 I like that part. Uh, thankfully I don't have to 1162 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.920 look at I don't see those in San Francisco. I 1163 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.760 don't remember the last time I've seen one a person anyways, 1164 00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:57.079 Only what do you think of Red Robin? 1165 00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.159 Nothing, That's what I was gonna say. I don't remember 1166 00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.119 anything about it, and once I couldn't tell you a 1167 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:02.880 single thing about it. 1168 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.920 People like the burger is all they have is that. 1169 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:11.679 The whole point they got fries too, probably is that 1170 00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:12.159 it jam. 1171 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:14.760 Probably, I hope that's it. 1172 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.239 People are also saying they love the doc. Great job, 1173 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:20.519 thank you, cool. 1174 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.199 Thank you very much. 1175 00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.559 That you should just you should have. 1176 00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.440 I appreciate everyone who's giving us the time of day, 1177 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.159 but I appreciate you, uh saving that for last last 1178 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:30.400 of it. 1179 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.280 Anyway, I think we're gonna call a wrap on this 1180 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:35.559 podcast because you asked me anymore about fast food plays 1181 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.719 and like gives a ship I don't know. 1182 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.519 I got other things. We'll go home and investigate whether 1183 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.400 or not we have a Kirkly tilet paper, and please 1184 00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:45.360 report back next week. 1185 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.199 I have a chicken enchiladas. 1186 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:52.480 Yeah, I'm in my fucking no, absolutely not. Rather, I'm 1187 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:56.280 never gonna forget that. Well, unfortunately me neither. I'm sure 1188 00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.840 they have the cheesecake factor, along with every other monstrosity 1189 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.000 that's this god damn planet. 1190 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.880 I'm Curtrent Divino, you're Curtain Divina, You're Jake Decker, that's me. 1191 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.920 I'm John Lokzecki. Thanks again for watching, everyone, and we'll 1192 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.039 see you the next time