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That's a little bit of 10 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:36,240 the Spanish lingo thrown in in homage to Rush Limbaugh 11 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:38,840 seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten and the 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,840 WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC, it's the 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,960 exact same number, seven oh four five seven oh eleven ten. 14 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:49,880 Not to go over all of the details again, but 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,159 in the last hour I started talking about Donald Trump's 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,600 executive order directing the Justice Department to eliminate laws and 17 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:03,479 regulations that hinder city ability to remove homeless people sleeping 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,959 on the streets, saying the move is necessary to crack 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,599 down on crime and drug use. Under the order, Attorney 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,560 General Pam Bondi will take steps to quote reverse judicial 21 00:01:14,599 --> 00:01:19,079 precedents and consent decrees that limit local and state governments 22 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,599 from removing homeless people from the streets and help move 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,879 them into treatment centers. They go to the phones here 24 00:01:25,879 --> 00:01:29,359 because Bob is called in. Welcome to the show, Bob. 25 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for taking my call. 26 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:34,719 Speaker 1: Sure, pardon me, Yeah, what's going on? Yeah? 27 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: I was hopeless for like a year and a half 28 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:45,319 and I stayed at the George shin Uptown Men's Shelter. 29 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: Nice George Shinn. There's a blast from the past for you. 30 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: The George. I remember for Christmas, he brought us a 31 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,840 bunch of tennis shoes. Okay, he brought us tennis shoes 32 00:01:56,879 --> 00:02:01,200 for Christmas. But I stayed there for nine and you know, 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,159 just to echo what a lot of people have been saying, 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,760 is that there's so many at least back then thirty 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,039 years ago. It was ninety five and ninety six when 36 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:14,719 I was there, and you know, there were there's so 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,240 many things that they offer you that you can to 38 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:22,840 get out of homelessness that nobody was taking advantage of, 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,599 you know, and they make it very very comfortable there, 40 00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:30,639 you know. And I remember on my exit interview, they 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,120 asked me, you know, after I you know, I took 42 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:37,680 advantage of every program they offered, you know, any program, 43 00:02:37,719 --> 00:02:42,520 every program, whatever, and was able to get out of it, 44 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:46,039 you know. And and then when they asked me on 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,400 the exit interview, you know what, what would you change, 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,319 and I said, get rid of the TV, you know, 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,280 get rid of the TV in the lobby, you know, 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,000 because a lot of those guys would just sit around 49 00:02:56,479 --> 00:03:00,919 and watch TV, you know, and wanted to give back 50 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,639 to the community. 51 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: You know. 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: After I got on my feet and started doing you know, 53 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,680 my own thing, I would go back there and try 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 to get help, you know, try to offer them, you know, 55 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,039 a job for them. They don't want to work, man it. 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,960 I mean some of you could tell the ones that 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,599 want to work, the ones that want to work don't 58 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:24,240 have any questions. They jump in the truck and they're 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,199 ready to go. Yeah, you know what I mean. But 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,879 the ones that don't want to work have a thousand questions, 61 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:31,840 you know, of you know what they're gonna you know, 62 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:34,360 what are we doing? What do we you know? Just 63 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:36,400 I mean it's just kind of funny. But all I 64 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:39,680 the only point I wanted to make is my experience, 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,479 was that you can get out of this homelessness. Loop 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,680 if you want to, you know, if if if you 67 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:52,319 at least that was my experience. I was able to 68 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:56,439 take advantage of all their programs and you know, course 69 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:59,000 of course quit using drugs and drinking. That was the 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,639 biggest thing, you know. And uh and and get back 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,199 on my feet. 72 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Was that a requirement to be in the shelter? No? No, 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,680 uh no drugs, no drinking, and like you were not. 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,879 Speaker 2: Allowed to h they would they would breathalyze. And I 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,879 made a lot of enemies because they made me a 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,879 breath aalizer. 77 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: Oh no, and. 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Uh oh they made me uh they made me head 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,720 of the kitchen. You know, I was man. I was 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,079 king of the homeless shelter man. 81 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not so why do you think it? 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,879 Why do you think you were different? Like why did 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,439 it work for you? And why and why it doesn't 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,759 work for others? 85 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a very negative atmosphere. First of all, it's 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,079 a very very you know, Uh, the man is keeping 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,079 me down, you know. Here there, here's the man offering 88 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,079 you programs to get out, you know, but it's the 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,759 man that's keeping him down, you know what I mean? Yeah, 90 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:57,839 and uh and uh, you know, it's just it's if 91 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:03,839 you're ready to be on home less than you can 92 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,600 become unhomeless. You know, that was my experience. Now you know, 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,439 of course that's a blanket that's a blanket statement for everybody, 94 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,720 you know, I mean, because everybody's experiences aren't the same 95 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:18,160 as mine, right, you know. 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: And uh, well, but I think you mentioned something there, 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,079 and I wrote down as you were saying it, I 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,720 wrote down the acronym TIV. And I've talked about this 99 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:31,920 many times over the years, which is the tendency for 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,600 interpersonal victimhood, which is this psychological profile of people who 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,639 once they go down this path, it's almost impossible to 102 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:43,720 get off it, which is that they view themselves as 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,000 this tendency to view themselves as the victim in virtually 104 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:52,040 all areas and aspects and relationships in their life, and 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,360 it's crippled. 106 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: I became homeless. I became homeless noly from from you know, 107 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,120 being an alcoholic. But also I became homeless because I 108 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:04,240 chose not to pay my rent. You know, That's why 109 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,279 I became homeless, because I made the decision that I 110 00:06:07,319 --> 00:06:10,040 wanted to party rather than pay my rent, you know. 111 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,120 And again, you know, I'm going back thirty years ago, 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,839 you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, and you know, 113 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:22,360 but you know, I mean I hate to say this 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,720 because it goes against a lot of things, but you know, 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,120 I really believe that, you know, people make it. You 116 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,279 got to make that choice when you're standing in front 117 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,800 of the beer cooper or whatever that Wait a minute, 118 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,160 I want to get out of this, you know, right, well, 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:41,120 of course, you know, and it so anyway. 120 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: So when you were at the shelter, they had the 121 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:45,319 you said, they have so many services. I'm assuming they've 122 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:48,560 got you know, twelve step program access. 123 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, big time, Yeah, twelve step program access and 124 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,439 how you know, if you go to a few mental 125 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:02,199 health classes, you know, uh, sign up for everything they've 126 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,319 got you know. Uh wait, hey how about this? How 127 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:08,160 about follow the rules? 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a that's a big order. I think 129 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:13,720 for some people it is. 130 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big order because we're such a selfish 131 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:21,319 and self centered, you know, like you said t I V. Yeah, 132 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,639 you know, you know, it's it's it's a very and 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,439 it's hard to see it from the inside. 134 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:32,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's it's it's sort of like our sheriff, 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,480 nothing's ever his fault. You know, it's not my fault 136 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:38,160 that I'm in this situation. You know, somebody else is 137 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:41,519 to blame for all of my problems, and that's not 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,959 the case. But it gives people the comfort to not 139 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:48,040 change and they have an excuse, just like you were 140 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:50,279 saying with the people that ask you all of the questions. 141 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:54,360 And I've encountered that in the past when i've you know, 142 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,120 I was one day sitting on my front steps and 143 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,839 the guy walked up to me and the two other 144 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,680 housemates and he was like, hey, check it out. I 145 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,439 just got out of prison and I really need some 146 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,480 money to go see my uncle on the other side 147 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,079 of town. And this was down in rock Hill, and 148 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,959 I said, well, I don't have any money, like I'm broke, 149 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:16,079 so I can't give you any money, and and he's like, 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,959 I just need some food. And I was like, well, 151 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,560 I'll give you some food. I was like, you want 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,319 a sandwich? Well what kind of sandwich? He starts grilling 153 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,759 me on, like what kind of food I'm going to 154 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:27,720 be able to give him. Yeah, if you're starving, dude, Like, 155 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,160 I'm not going to let you starve to death. I 156 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,120 got a ham sandwich. This is what I eat ham 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,720 and cheese sandwich. That's all I can afford. He's like, oh, 158 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,320 I need a hot meal. I need a hot meal. 159 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,279 I was like, well, how about some ramen noodles. I 160 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,919 buy those things for like seventy cents a bag. You know, No, no, no, 161 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,279 that's all right, And like anything, that bad. 162 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,799 Speaker 2: Thing is Yeah, I was just gonna say. The sad 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,399 thing is is that like for the guys in the 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,159 shelter that are trying to do the right thing, that 165 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,120 are following the rules, that are taking advantage of their programs, 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,960 you know everything, you know that they're made fun of 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,399 and look down on it really by by the gang. 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,679 So you got to able to overcome that social stigma 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,399 of being a kisspot, you know really and oh oh 170 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,440 big time. Oh it's yeah, it was. It was ridiculous. 171 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,639 I was like, man, here's the guy that's trying to 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,559 help himself and you know, it's it's it's it's it's 173 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,120 really weird. 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, you down well and that's you know what 175 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,519 you've just described. Also was one of the things that 176 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:28,120 jad Vance wrote about in his book He'll Billy Eleogy, 177 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,360 where he talked about the crab or the buckets. The 178 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,320 crabs in the bucket where you throw crabs in a 179 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 bucket and they could climb out if they wanted to, 180 00:09:36,759 --> 00:09:38,879 if they tried to, and they and if they all like, 181 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,600 they could make it out, but they never do because 182 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:44,679 whenever one crab starts getting up high, the other crabs 183 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:46,600 grab a hold of it and bring it back down 184 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:50,600 into the bucket. And that's what you're just describing. It's 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 the it's the the bucket of crabs scenario. 186 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:56,399 Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you get out right. 187 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, whereas he called it, you know, you're too 188 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,759 big for your breeches, like, oh, who are you to 189 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:01,879 come back from college? 190 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Now? 191 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh, you're better than we are, and that because that's 192 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,519 what that's about, is like, oh, look at you, Bob 193 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120 trying to better himself. Oh you think you're better than 194 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:12,679 I am? Well, I mean on this score, yes, like 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,200 I think you would be better because you're trying to 196 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:18,559 improve yourself into not be in this situation that you 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 don't want to be in. So yes, on this measure, 198 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,440 I would say you are behaving better. 199 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: You just have to rise above and ignore them, you 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,440 know what I mean? Yeah, you have to or not 201 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,799 rise above you just have to ignore them, you know 202 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,200 what I mean, You just you know, you just have 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,559 to ignore them. Yeah, because there's no winning the argument 204 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:44,840 with Key said, I like that, PIV Yeah yeah, yeah. 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: It's it's a victim mindset, and once you start down 206 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,120 that path, it is it's almost impossible to break out 207 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:50,279 of it. 208 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: Bob. 209 00:10:51,039 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad your story is a happy 210 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:55,159 one here at the end, And thank you for the insight. 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,080 I really appreciate it. 212 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. 213 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,879 Speaker 1: All right, take care, have a great weekend. 214 00:10:59,279 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: All right. 215 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:01,519 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 216 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:03,279 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 217 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,399 I know you do too. And you've probably heard me 218 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,639 say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because 219 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,360 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 220 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:15,720 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,559 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 233 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 234 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,039 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,639 as they make the media landscape more transparent. We'll go 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,879 back to the phones. Here's Scott. Hello, Scott, welcome to 237 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:08,279 the show. 238 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,159 Speaker 2: Hey b Hey, we met. 239 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,799 Speaker 4: We met at the News and Brews, the original one 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,440 towards the end of it all, and we're talking about 241 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,759 fans and stall and all that type of thing. But 242 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,879 I was a recipient of the f f VF program. 243 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:29,080 You know that, that's a federal program. About three years ago. 244 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,000 I got really sick and I'm a veteran, and they 245 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:36,480 gave us, not directly, but they gave us over thirty 246 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,080 three thousand dollars through this grant to take care of 247 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,159 all of our rent and all of our bills and literally, 248 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,159 I mean everything, wow, for almost five months. So that 249 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,559 my body could just recover and then then we were rebounded. 250 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,159 But before that, over the last twenty five years, in 251 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,840 my pursuit of trying to be an entrepreneur, I ended 252 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:04,440 up homeless three times, checked in the George Shenn what 253 00:13:04,519 --> 00:13:08,759 they called the Dog Pound, and you know, took advantage 254 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:11,679 of all the programs that were available at the time. 255 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,759 And I mean this was back when Patriccrory was you know, 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,279 the mayor. Yeah, and you know, I've seen more things 257 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,600 to help the homeless with you know, Sue Myerk and 258 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Richard Benruth than I ever did with pat Munsford and 259 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,600 the ten year planned in holmlessness and the liberal you 260 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:35,679 know agenda they once the Liberals gut into Charlotte. I 261 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,960 mean they they have all but destroyed any hope of 262 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:45,279 you know, the homeless crowd progressing. And I've gone down 263 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,399 and trying to get involved two three times. And because 264 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,360 I kind of feel like I'm almost an expert in 265 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:54,159 this kind of get off the street thing, but it 266 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:59,360 you know, it's you're right, I mean, the victim mentality. 267 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,759 I mean I had to get over that, and it 268 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,200 took probably twenty years for me to get over it. 269 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,840 And you know, all I was dealing with was you know, 270 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,000 hard economic times. I had no drug issues or no, 271 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,039 you know. 272 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,159 Speaker 1: Alcohol issues, that type of thing, right, so, right, so, 273 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,480 but you also had this this victim mentality, this tendency 274 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,360 for interpersonal victimhood you. Yeah, so when did you realize 275 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,720 that you When did you really or when did you say, like, 276 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,600 I'm not the victim anymore, I'm not going to look 277 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,639 at myself like that or was it even a conscious 278 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:35,840 thing that you you did? 279 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:39,559 Speaker 4: Yeah? And two you started talking about it, you know, 280 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:43,320 two or three years ago. I didn't really think of 281 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:46,039 it that way, but that's exactly what it is. And 282 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:49,679 you know, it's funny that you speak about it quite often. 283 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:51,679 And I you know, it's like I used to say, 284 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,440 John Hancock when he was on the air, he would 285 00:14:54,519 --> 00:15:00,240 give like great uncle fatherly wisdom, you know, how to 286 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:02,600 you know, kind of budget your money and that type 287 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,360 of thing. And I always try to get send him 288 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,159 a message every so off and just to say thank 289 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,840 you so much for always making you know, being responsible 290 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,480 a part of your show. And you do that, you 291 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:17,000 do the same thing. I mean, you're like, you know, listen, guys, 292 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,159 I mean, you don't have to do it. You don't 293 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:20,799 have to struw, but you just have to be smart 294 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:23,519 about you know, what you're gonna do on a daily basis. 295 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:27,639 But yeah, I think I think probably about five years 296 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:30,759 ago I really started, you know, looking in the mirror. 297 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:32,919 I tell everybody you should go look in the mirror 298 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,600 for about ten minutes. Uh, we all should do that, 299 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,080 and and then look at you know, uh, if things 300 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,159 are going good. If guy told me a long time ago, 301 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:44,799 Scott or you involved, I said, yeah. He said, well great, great, 302 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 he says, when things are going bad, congratulations, you're involved too. 303 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: You know. 304 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: So I I I tend to look at that and 305 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,799 really take it to heart. And then about once a year, 306 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:58,879 I just go up to the mirror and stare at 307 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:02,000 the mirror and you know, trying to figure out, you know, 308 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,919 what am I doing right and what am I doing wrong? 309 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,559 And you know we got to change that. 310 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,679 Speaker 1: Well, Scott, I would say, I will return the compliment 311 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000 and say that that's some good uncle and fatherly advice 312 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,759 that you've just given to people as well. 313 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:19,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, after being almost three times and 314 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,000 then getting really sick and then watching you know, our 315 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:27,000 federal government, you know basically have a program. It's called 316 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,600 the f SBF program, and it's only initiated out of 317 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:35,240 a couple people in North Carolina or South Carolina. But 318 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:38,600 they they will help you. I mean, but but you 319 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,399 you got to be wanting to help yourself. And if 320 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:43,440 you're if you're not willing to help yourself, there's not 321 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,600 much help out there. 322 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,039 Speaker 3: Right. 323 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: I think that's really the message that I wanted to 324 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 call in today, is that all this help, all this 325 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,279 helps is out here matters nothing if if we're not 326 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:55,440 willing to help ourselves. 327 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:55,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:58,519 Speaker 1: No, and that's what the you know, hitting rock bottom, 329 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,360 the moment of clarity, like, that's what all of that 330 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:04,240 is about. Yeah, Scott, I appreciate the call, brother, good 331 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,880 to hear from you. I have a great weekend, all right, 332 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,559 take it easy. Let me see if I get James 333 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:09,519 on here before the break. 334 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:13,759 Speaker 3: Hello James, Hey, Pete, Hey, try to keep this real short, 335 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:18,519 so interesting topic. I love it so Pam and the 336 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,119 Jam often has reports on our traffic reports bout hit 337 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,359 and run accidents right throughout Charlotte. Yeah, and I'm tying 338 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,000 that to you had mentioned about these I'll call them 339 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:32,599 beggars out on the street corners with their signage and 340 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,240 props and everything else. What would be the parasite the 341 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:42,000 local blob and I've including those the local officials, some 342 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:49,119 of the local media, TV, radio, newspaper, and advocates of 343 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:53,039 the homeless population. What would be their response. Do you 344 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,279 suppose if some motorists picked off one of these homeless 345 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,640 beggars out on the street corner and. 346 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:06,279 Speaker 1: Led what would be the response? Oh, I'm I think, 347 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,160 I mean, I would go out on a limb and 348 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,200 say it would It would be big news, right, Like 349 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,759 they would report that, you know, somebody hit a homeless 350 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:17,200 person and drove away, and then there would be a 351 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,000 man hunt and they would be, you know, trying to 352 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:20,880 find them and that sort of thing. But but honestly, 353 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,559 I mean, I think if that was the case, that's usual. 354 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:26,160 I think it would get much the same coverage as 355 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,440 anybody that got hit, you know, a hit and run 356 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:31,319 kind of a thing like that, the local media on 357 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,920 a hit and run where they're trying to look for 358 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,880 the driver. I think, I mean, I've seen so many 359 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,400 of those stories over the years, not involving homeless people, 360 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,039 but just you know, housed people that get that get 361 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,000 hit and killed by hit and run drivers, and usually 362 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,279 it's a drunk driver, right right, And and I think 363 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:53,640 the coverage is pretty it's it's similar across I think 364 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,720 all all of the no matter who the victim is, 365 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:59,279 especially if you're looking for the person so right. 366 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: So you don't think it to be more sensationalized though, 367 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,960 because it was a homeless person hit. 368 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:06,039 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that would be an angle to it. Sure, 369 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,839 but I think, just like all of this stuff, the 370 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,640 story would die as soon as they caught the person, 371 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:14,640 the driver, you know what I mean. So, yeah, James, 372 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,160 I appreciate the call man. Have a good weekend. I 373 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,000 appreciate it. Here's a great idea. How about making an 374 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,319 escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western 375 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:24,839 North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and 376 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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I'm with a shelter in 398 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:48,440 Rockhill and this guy was spot on, speaking of in 399 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,599 the last hour, the mayor of Tika, k called in 400 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,279 and he talked about, you know, the programs at Pilgrim's 401 00:20:55,279 --> 00:20:58,400 in down in Rockhill, and Dan said that if Tigak, 402 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,920 Fort Mill and others would stop sending all they're homeless 403 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,119 to rock Hill, then rock Hill would not be overrun 404 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,799 with homeless people. Help your own folks, don't ship them 405 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:10,160 out to be somebody else's problem. That's to the to 406 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:17,799 the mayor of Tika Kum. I thought there was another 407 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:20,160 one in here. Uh here, yeah, here it is from 408 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,400 Deborah responding to one of the earlier callers. In other words, 409 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,680 she says, it's never the wrong time to do the 410 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:34,079 right thing correct. Let's see, there is a phone number 411 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,000 or a there's a tip line for traffic. Oh no, 412 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,599 what is it? 413 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:37,799 Speaker 3: Is it? 414 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,759 Speaker 1: Seven oh four? Nickel? Bring it up? Somebody's asking me 415 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,240 because he says they are crawling on I eighty five 416 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,839 north after exit forty one. So there we we just 417 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240 got the tip line, the traffic tip line up and running, 418 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,559 and uh, I'll relay it to you. It's is it tips? 419 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,759 It's six six' nine? Tips is that? It is? It 420 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:00,279 seven oh? Four look at that check out out the 421 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,200 memory on me seven o. Four i'd LIKE i looked 422 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,920 at this email like On monday seven oh four six 423 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:13,799 six' nine. Tips godspeed somebody else wants to know if 424 00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:17,200 we moved. Our, tower no we have not moved. OUR 425 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:24,960 tower i Live, In valdiese valdiese and can't pick up, 426 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,000 clear today seventy five. MILES northwest i. Don't know it 427 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,759 could actually be, heat. RELATED sunrelated i. Don't know i've 428 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:35,000 not heard anything. About that we'll check with the, engineer though. 429 00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:37,920 All right so there's a piece At The carolina journals 430 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,880 actually from a few, months back Written By. David larson 431 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,680 the headline on this Was Make North carolina Downtown's. Great again, 432 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,240 he said my WIFE and i were married In downtown 433 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,640 raleigh five, summers ago and we decided to celebrate our 434 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920 fifth anniversary this summer by staying at this. PAST summer 435 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:59,240 i guess. It, was oh this is a, Year ago 436 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,440 august of Twenty, For, sorry well it's been in the 437 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,720 stack of stuff. That. Long okay so they celebrated their 438 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,440 anniversary by staying at The same marriott hotel and visiting 439 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:11,160 some of the same locations in the heart Of. Downtown 440 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,920 raleigh it was quickly evident that things had. DRASTICALLY changed 441 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:18,799 i doubt we'd have planned the same kind of event 442 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,599 if we were planning the. Event, today so in, other 443 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:24,480 words they would not get married In downtown raleigh like 444 00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:30,039 they did five. Years ago that's, how far, you know 445 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,880 the decline, has been and how quick the decline has 446 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:39,240 been In, downtown raleigh. He said saturday Nights Along, fayetteville street, 447 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:42,480 you know used to have, you know raucous, college students, 448 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:46,640 young professionals gave the area life, and revenue but now 449 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,799 it's eerily empty of people visiting the once crowded bar and, 450 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,240 restaurant scene. He, said instead the few people wandering or 451 00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:57,519 loitering on benches appeared to be homeless people and those 452 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:01,319 intoxicated by things stronger. Than alcohol having Lived in raleigh 453 00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,039 for quite a while during my, SINGLE days i remembered 454 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,319 That The moor square area had a reputation, for this 455 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,799 but that it had been fairly well contained to that 456 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 area at the. Very least the massive number of patrons 457 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:23,720 to downtown businesses diluted, their, Impact right but then you 458 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:29,680 end up with repeated interactions with, intoxicated vagrants and that drives. 459 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,799 Business away that's me, saying that, he says bringing this 460 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,039 kind of thing up can make city boosters accuse you 461 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,279 of whining or focusing on the negative or exaggerating, the 462 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,160 problem but He says i'm. Not alone there was a 463 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,839 recent social media Post By Mayor Mary ann baldwin where 464 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,519 she decried the Possibility that raleigh could lose its, downtown 465 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,480 amphitheater even saying that if, it happened they would lose 466 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,920 the future. Of downtown she called for a re envision 467 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,440 of downtown with a focus on more foot traffic and better. 468 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,559 Public safety he points out the irony that the mayor 469 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,519 is calling out these issues because she's been in Charge 470 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:14,720 of raleigh for the entire five year period from when 471 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:16,960 he was married to when they went back to celebrate 472 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:21,279 their anniversary when this decline in commerce and safety. Have occurred, 473 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:23,599 HE says i don't want to focus too much on, 474 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,519 one mayor though in, one city, this problem as the 475 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,000 commenters on This mayor's facebook post, spelled out this is 476 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,759 seen across the state in downtown. After downtown it's not 477 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,000 just the conservative law and order types that are noticing 478 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,839 and calling attention. To it Over At, indie week Which 479 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,240 is durham's very progressive, local newspaper they have a pinned 480 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,400 tweet from weeks ago to the top of. Their account 481 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,759 they cite, rising rents which is, a problem but also 482 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,039 business is closing left, and right causing the downtown to 483 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,359 hollow out and public safety, to deteriorate making the city. 484 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960 Feel unwalkable if people don't, feel safe they. Don't come 485 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,559 if they, don't come businesses lose the foot traffic needed to. 486 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:14,079 Stay open if they, closed down even fewer people come 487 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,799 and the once vibrant areas become places for vagrancy. And 488 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:24,079 crime see this is for people like ME who. I 489 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,440 knew I mean i knew like almost every block Of 490 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:32,799 uptown charlotte twenty five. Years ago those were the, days 491 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:35,519 WHEN like i was a REPORTER and i was going 492 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:38,960 to cover all sorts, of, events meetings, you know, crime 493 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,319 obviously but it was all over, the place all over 494 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,759 the City, of charlotte driving around IN the Wbt, news 495 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:51,680 TOYOTA and i DIDN'T. HAVE gps I like i had 496 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,200 an old book map and and one of those next 497 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,000 tell walkie talkie, type phones remember, Those, Things peach AND 498 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720 so i could call back to the newsroom and ask, 499 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,680 the anchor, You Know. Jim barrow i'd Be, like jim, 500 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,920 You know i'm Lost where i'm on. This road i'm 501 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,680 trying to get to this, location whatever and he would. 502 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,920 Direct me BUT like i had to figure. It out 503 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:15,799 you had to learn. The city now you just plug 504 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,680 it into your phone and you know it'll take, you 505 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480 there and you don't learn the names of streets and 506 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:24,279 all of. That stuff AND when I then i Went, 507 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:28,000 to ashville AND then i, came back and obviously all of, 508 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,359 the growth the new buildings and all of, this stuff 509 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,680 IT'S like i don't even recognize. It anymore BUT what 510 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,759 i see around on the streets, is DISCOURAGING because i 511 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:43,519 remember twenty five, years ago when city leaders spent so 512 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:51,519 much time and effort and political capital and taxpayer money 513 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,920 To Revitalize. Uptown charlotte they renamed it for the love, 514 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,680 of me LIKE they, i mean they didn't name, it 515 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,279 that but they renamed it uptown right in order to 516 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:07,680 try to shape this image of a hollowed out downtown that's, you. 517 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Know dreary and, you know the old joke was you 518 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,519 can roll a bowling ball down trade and try on 519 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,000 at five point thirty and the only thing you would 520 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,720 hit would be, you know hookers and pimps because there 521 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,200 wasn't anything. Down there after the bank's closed and all 522 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,440 the bankers, went home there wasn't Anything there for all, 523 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,160 that effort all, that work all that, treasure spent and 524 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,920 you're gonna wiz. 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Listen. 562 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Back Okay So david larson At The, carolina journal this 563 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,079 was a piece he wrote a, while back but it 564 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,960 still retains, its value much, like me which is this 565 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:53,759 making downtown great. Again idea downtown's across. The state he Talks. 566 00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:58,720 About raleigh he Then Mentions, winston salem and then he 567 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,039 talks about how he had friends coming In From washington 568 00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:04,000 state and they wanted to Go visit asheville because they 569 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,319 had heard wonderful Things, about ashville and so they Went 570 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,000 to ashville and then they came back to their House 571 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:12,079 in raleigh and, they, said quote it reminded us Of, 572 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:18,920 home seattle and not in a. Good, way yeah making 573 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,319 reference to the rampant drug use. And. Homelessness yeah and 574 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:24,920 this was always an ISSUE when i was Up in, 575 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,880 asheville too and it still. Is, now look a lot 576 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,920 of that is. Tourism related we would have stories pretty 577 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,400 regularly up there of people who came in To visit 578 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,480 ashville from out of town and they would come to 579 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,839 party and they would buy some drugs and they would 580 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,640 all die of fentanyl poisoning in their. Hotel room so 581 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,119 that was a pretty regular occurrence. UP there i Don't 582 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,200 blame asheville. FOR that i do blame them for a 583 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:55,079 lax view on allowing the vagrancy in the, downtown area which. 584 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:59,720 Is interesting you never saw It In, biltmore village which 585 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,720 is all a. Tourist destination but like even the left 586 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,400 wing city, leaders knew you don't do to build more 587 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,319 village what you allowed to occur In. Downtown ashville Message, 588 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,160 on twitter it's a pete Tweet from trent WHO says 589 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,119 i will never forget working Outside The salvation army In 590 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,319 downtown ashville when a group of tourists walk through, a dense, homeless, street, 591 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,480 saying quote this place isn't as nice as. We thought, 592 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Since then I've noticed Ashville leaders ashville T oh. Ashville 593 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,319 leaders he probably did voice, to text because It's, ash 594 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,920 villains THAT'S what i. Call them they Call. It ashvillians, 595 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:46,440 but anyway, Since then i've Noticed ash villains Don't or. Ashville, Leaders, 596 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,960 Oh ashville i'm Sorry that ashville tears down the homeless 597 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,279 encampments along. Two, forty yeah they started doing that and 598 00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,599 they got a lot of pushback, for it but especially 599 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,480 After Her hurricane helene like there's been a new. Found 600 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,440 love they are rediscovering their appreciation for the Tourists. In 601 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,000 ashville the WHOLE time i was, up there there was 602 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:20,119 this constant drum beat, against tourists and, you know it 603 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,039 would pit business owners and the business community against the 604 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,519 local rabble that would elect the. City leaders and so 605 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:32,400 there's this constant tension because the local leaders also needed 606 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,960 the business community to, you know keep, providing revenue but 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,920 also to keep funding. Their campaigns they needed their support 608 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,559 for stuff. And initiatives so there was this. Constant tension 609 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,599 and because there are a lot of people that are, 610 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680 up there they went up there so they could live 611 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,880 this lifestyle OF what i would REFER when i. WAS 612 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,759 there i referred to it as like the year, after college, 613 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,720 you know where you're living in an old mill house 614 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,200 with four other roommates and you got the couch on 615 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,400 the front porch and a keg set up, out there 616 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 and you're just living this this, party lifestyle, you know 617 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,559 working in the restaurants at night and then drinking away 618 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,159 the rest of the night and waking up at, you 619 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:19,440 know one o'clock in. The afternoon And that's ashville like, 620 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,760 like that that mentality that scene and people people want 621 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,039 that for the rest of. The life and that's why 622 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:26,880 you end up seeing these people who are sixty five 623 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,679 years old still living. LIKE that i mean they have a, 624 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,280 trust fund don't get. Me wrong that's how they can. 625 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Do it but everybody else that doesn't have a, trust 626 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,280 fund they're just in poverty and hooked. On Drugs and 627 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,039 i've said This to ashville is a case study and 628 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,360 long term. Drug, abuse anyway back to, this piece a 629 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,960 new report From The Major Cities chiefs association shows that 630 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,920 violent Crime in Raleigh and charlotte. Had increased this was. 631 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,679 Last year there's a general lawlessness that has grown into 632 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,519 a violent crime problem and a cause of downtown deterioration 633 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,000 and uneasiness from. The public progressive das not prosecuting low 634 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,679 level crime is a major source of. The lawlessness another 635 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,719 source is the distrust toward police that spiked after the 636 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,559 Killing Of Saint. GEORGE floyd i added the saint. Part 637 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,360 there both have made it harder to implement the broken 638 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,079 windows policing and community policing shown to be most effective 639 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:26,559 for creating. Thriving downtowns here's another Message, On, twitter pete 640 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,840 these people are they are broke? Not hungry talking about 641 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,679 you Know, the yeah the PEOPLE that i mentioned that 642 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,400 my wife has offered food and look a lot of 643 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,559 times the people take the food. From her but on 644 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:47,360 occasion there are some that refuse to take the food. 645 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,400 From her she'll walk out of a restaurant and one 646 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,559 TIME she i told her this was the wrong thing. 647 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,039 TO do i do not. Advise this. She got she 648 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,159 met somebody for lunch, or something and they leave the 649 00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,719 restaurant and, somebody, says HEY can i have some money? 650 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,239 For food and, she's, LIKE well i don't have any 651 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,360 money to give. To you, she's like but if you 652 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,599 want something, to, Eat, like i'll, You Know i'll i'll 653 00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:10,000 get you something AT this i think it was a. 654 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,199 Pizza place i'll get you something in, The, restaurant like 655 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,880 come on into, The restaurant i'll buy you. Some food and, 656 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,280 He's like i'm not allowed to go. In there so 657 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,679 obviously he was known to the proprietor of. This establishment so, 658 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,519 she says, all, right well, you know tell me what 659 00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:30,440 you Want and i'll go in and. Get IT and 660 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,239 i need, a menu, All right so she goes against. 661 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960 The menu she brings in the Menu is i'm, A 662 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:43,440 vegan like this is a, pizza, Place, man like WHAT 663 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,400 did i have a? VEGAN option i don't? Even know, 664 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,400 And whatever and she ends up buying this guy something 665 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,199 that he said. He wanted she brings it out and 666 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,079 then he turns his nose up at it and chastises 667 00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:02,119 her for not giving her him, A fork like do 668 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,159 you understand what that does to somebody with a kind 669 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,320 heart that tries to do? Something? Good right do you 670 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,760 think now she's more or less likely to ever do? That, 671 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,719 AGAIN well i can tell you she's, less likely not 672 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,559 really because of, his actions but MAINLY because i, told 673 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,400 her don't you ever do? That again like you you 674 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,920 are not you are not to. Do that and somebody 675 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,519 sent me an IMAGE from i Guess. It's shelby they 676 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,719 have posted signs on the side of the road at 677 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,920 these hot spots for for, the panhandling for the flying 678 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,039 signs guys you know that, you know, need help, homeless 679 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,320 veteran that kind. Of thing they've put up signs there 680 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:48,360 telling people do not, encourage panhandling. Encourage help and then 681 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,320 they've got the like logos for the various charities that, 682 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,039 that help and they've got to think, they've, got like, 683 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,119 you know one of those one OF the, qr codes 684 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,880 those things like that's a. Better alternative direct people to 685 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,559 the resources that can actually help them if that is 686 00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:11,039 in fact what they. Are Seeking, all right that'll do 687 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,599 it for. This episode thank you so much. FOR listening 688 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,880 i could not do the show without your support and 689 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,599 the support of the businesses that advertise on, the podcast 690 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,039 so if, you'd like please support them too and tell 691 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,800 them you heard. 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