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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast. Today,

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we're very excited to have an old friend of the

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show back with us. It's Tina discoviaged from Moms for Liberty,

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who you may know from spend spending time on a

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Florida school board. She's currently working on several nonprofit boards

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in her community, all of which support kids. Obviously that's

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the cause near and dear to her heart. So we

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wanted to catch up with you, Tina and ask you

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about some current events.

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Speaker 2: And we'll kick it off.

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Speaker 1: With all this hullabaloo that is happening with this school

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superintendent Ian Roberts in Iowa, who we don't even know.

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Speaker 3: Do we call him doctor Roberts?

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Speaker 1: Does he even have a degree?

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Speaker 2: We don't know is named Ian? Like, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: He was just arrested, and so we wanted to get

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your take on that, especially when it comes to how

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in the world he was selected.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, as you said, I was on a school board,

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and so I just don't even know how this guy

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got his job, because there is such a thorough vetting

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process with anyone that's going to be around children nowadays,

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of course there is, but for a superintendent of schools.

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Speaker 3: There's extra layers of that.

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Speaker 4: All of the elected school board members need to be

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held accountable for this, and I had mentioned it the

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other day. So when I was on the school board

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here in Florida, about twice the size of the Des

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Moines School district that this is the superintendent of, I

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actually used to go into school board meetings hours early

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and ask for the personnel files, background checks and everything

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on every single leader in the district that we were

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voting on. And so we had nine thousand employees, so

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it wasn't all the employees I did that for, but

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every principle, every vice principle, anybody in leadership, and absolutely

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a superintendent candidate. So we used to hire a third

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party firm. I think that's what most school districts do.

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They do background checks, they do research. They usually have

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a pool of candidates that they are constantly checking on

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and checking in with, and they move them around, you know,

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they all switch through school districts all the time. I

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have no idea how this guy got through. Not only

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was he an illegal immigrant that they were trying that

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had lost his visa, which should have come up immediately,

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he also had a weapons charge for two years prior.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's just mind blowing.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, I mean he had a loaded gun in

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his car when he was arrested. He's like, yeah, he

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had been Like they saw him speeding. We had talked

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about him speeding earlier, and they just like, oh, it's

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fine because he wears flashy colors. What I know, just

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the whole story is completely bizarre. I don't know how

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this happened either, but it did happen. And so I mean,

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I'm looking at this and I'm like, Okay, Like, our schools.

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Speaker 2: Are in Origi Estate too.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what always surprises people, right, is it

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how does this happen in a conservative area?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: So, we have a very strong chapter in Polk County

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that is Des Moines, one of the strongest in the country,

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and they are amazing and they have made huge progress

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at the state level with legislation, but they have not

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had go success with school board elections at all. The

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union comes in with ten times more money than we

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ever could have and they get behind those candidates in

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Des Moines and so we've had no luck there.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised in that aspect.

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Speaker 2: We've got to get rid of these unions.

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Speaker 1: Man, and then he's on paid leave even though he's

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been arrested and has a deportation. What how does that

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even work? Why would the leave be paid, especially because

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they revoked his license. Look, some people need to be

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held accountable. And I hope the people of Des Moines

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wake up and vote for school board members that are

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not going to hire an illegal immigrant with weapons charges,

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who's speeding and running with a loaded gotten hiding cops.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome for the vacation. Like that's a good

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gig if you could get it, My goodness. All right,

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So the Fairfax County steff I got, we got to

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talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your face everything is like I can't even deal.

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Speaker 3: It's like welcome to America.

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Speaker 2: We're covering our faces talking about this stuff. Okay.

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Speaker 5: So Fairfax County has been in the headlines lately over

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this because this is a story, and this is just

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a subject that's near and dear to my heart because

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I have a daughter who is a swimmer, she's a

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high school swimmer, and I start seeing all this stuff

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where it's like oh men or men, you know, boys

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and girls sports, and it's totally Okay, and this is

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the narrative.

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Speaker 2: It's all completely absurd to me.

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Speaker 5: But you know, they were this is Fairfax County telling

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girls change quickly and when they and they had the

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audacity to when girls had the audacity to complain about

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having to deal with the boy watching them get undressed

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in a locker room. Right, So what's the takeaway here? Like,

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what are we talking about? Because I look at this

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and I'm like, I didn't think this was supposed to

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be happening when Trump got into office, and now we're

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still seeing it happening. And I just I think to

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myself because I live in Texas, and so the first

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thing I think is this wouldn't happen in Texas because

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the fathers would take care of it immediately, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it makes you wonder about the men in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: The father y.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: On a more serious note, these are Title nine violations.

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And yeah, President Trump one of his first, if not

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his very first executive order was keeping boys out of

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girl sports. We were there at the White House for it.

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We had thirty of our moms there with their daughters.

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It was like that photo. I don't know if you

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guys have seen it. Of the moms and daughters standing

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behind him. I was in the crowd just like weeping,

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like just watching the girls admiring their moms, because I've

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watched them trash their moms maybe the last few years.

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Speaker 3: Mom, why do you have to speak up? You're embarrassing me.

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Stop doing this.

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Speaker 4: And then to see that the work that their moms

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have been doing brought them to the White House to

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stand with the President as he was standing firm on

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something as important as Title nine and keeping boys out

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of girls spaces and girls sports and so, how.

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Speaker 3: Is this still happening?

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Speaker 4: Well, this is how it works in America. It's just

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an executive order, and it's wonderful and it's you know,

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it's a stake in the ground, but it's it's not

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necessary the law of the land long term. There's a

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lot of other things that need to happen. Congression, Congress

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doing something would be really nice. The States need to

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take action too to fortify that. Baalid initiatives potentially is

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another great thing we can do in this I know

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Colorado's working on one right now, and then it has

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to be played out in the courts. You know, we

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know what's happening in Fairfax. The DOE has, you know,

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laying fines, going to revoke federal funds. But to be honest,

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federal funds for school districts is about ten percent, and

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Fairfax is the largest school district in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: They're very well funded.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that ten percent of their funds,

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if that's what they get from the federal government, is

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going to make that big of a deal. They may

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just say to keep your money and we're going to

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keep boys in the locker rooms. And so then then

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there has to be you know, lawsuits from the parents

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and getting the kids to stand up and the parents

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to stand up with the pressure and the attacks. And

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you know, the trans world is not kind. They are ruthless,

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they are they are terrible. Often they've treated us what

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they've done to us in our organization. And obviously we

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know what happened with Charlie and others like it's it's

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nothing to play around with. And so the courage it

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takes for these families to stand up is exceptional.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to know where where are the feminists?

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Where are they? Yeah, we've become the feminist ladies.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, ladies, we're the feminists now right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that Do you think that the

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election for governor in Virginia, I mean, do you think

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there's hope that we can see a win some sears

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win or not, because I feel like that will make

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a huge difference in what's going on in Virginia schools,

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which seems to still be so problematic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when some is standing firm in the right place

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and on the right side of this issue, she's speaking

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very vocally about it. Everything I've seen is she's down

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in the polls a few points. But you know what,

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do you believe Poles? I don't believe Poles. Polls told

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me that Romney was going to win. Poles told me

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Trump was going to lose. Polls to like, don't believe

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the polls. You you know, keep team win some keep

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it up, file forward, knock every door you can knock,

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get every vote you can get, and let's shock the

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polls and get her elected in Virginia.

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Speaker 5: I totally agree with you on the polls. And we

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just and I'm pushing her like we're putting her out

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on our social media too, because we just we love her.

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We think she's fantastic. So I'm I'm curious what you

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think about all this the cell phone stuff because my

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daughter I'm in Texas, like I said, and they cannot

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have cell phones in school. There's a part of me

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as a mom where I'm like, I'm so I was

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so used to her having a cell phone. So you know,

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she does sports after school and all that kind of stuff.

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can't get in touch with her if she has X

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or whatever. Sometimes it can be a little inconvenient as

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a parent. But at the same time, I think that

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not having phones in the classroom is a wonderful thing

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because I'm a gen xer and I remember the days

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of your when we didn't have phones all the time,

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and that was a good thing for us as a society.

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Speaker 2: So what is your view on this.

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Speaker 3: I am grateful for that.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine the things that would have been caught

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on camera in high school, even junior highway that would

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be coming out now all over the New York Times

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in my case, like what she did when she was fourteen.

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So in that aspect, allelujah our organization. I would say

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our moms are very divided. We have a lot of

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chapters and moms that wholeheartedly support like banning them outright

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anywhere near campus, and then we have other moms that say,

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absolutely not the stuff that's going on in classrooms right

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now between radical teachers and safety, you know, just getting

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beat up, chairs flying, all kinds of things are happening

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in schools all the way up to school shootings, and

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so I'd say we're very divided as a whole. My

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personal opinion is I've seen plenty of teachers that have

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check your phone at the door, and so I think,

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in my opinion, kids should be allowed to have their

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phones with strong parameters and rules in the hallway. Sure,

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lunch maybe, uh probably lunch y af before and after

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school on campus. Sure, absolutely, you've got sports. You got

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to be picked up at eight pm after cheerleading practice.

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standing outside in front of the school in the dark,

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all by myself, waiting for my mom to show up after.

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Speaker 3: Her third job.

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Speaker 4: You know, A phone would have been really great then

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and so, but in the classroom actively without without the

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teacher using it for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Check them at the door with.

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Speaker 4: A box or a bucket or you know whatever. Some

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teachers get real creative and have charging stations at the door,

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like plug it in and charge it, like offer you

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a free service so that you know you'll want to

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Speaker 3: At the door.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but obviously, like how hard is it to like

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but like I would want to I would want my

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kid to be able to capture that if necessary. And

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why can't a teacher just simply say your phones stay

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in your backpack for the duration of this class and

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just monitor that and discipline kids who don't abide by that.

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Speaker 3: But if there's if there's.

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Speaker 1: A reason all of a sudden for a kid to

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need to record something, I kind of want them to

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Speaker 2: I guess that's where I stand on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to pull them away entirely or even

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necessarily have them across the room. There just needs to

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Speaker 5: And to your point, Mock, I think in high school

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the rule should be a little bit different than say

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middle school or elementary school, because you know, like my

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daughter is a sophomore in high school and she's going

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to be in college in three years, and so they're

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going to have full autonomy. And I think what they're

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doing is they're making these kids feel younger than they are,

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and they're taking away freedoms rather than saying, here are freedoms,

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but you need to have parameters, like you said, to

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those freedoms, respect that or you will be punished. I

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think that would be a better way to handle it,

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especially at the high school level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that idea a loto.

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Speaker 1: One more question because before we ask you about the

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summit that you have coming up, because that's exciting, that's

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in a couple of weeks. One more thing, because I

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know that this is something that's near and dear to

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you as being part of the Mormon.

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Speaker 2: Community, this attack on this Michigan church.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been posting a lot about it on

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X and I'm just I mean, I'm curious, like what

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you've learned that we may not know yet, even about

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the attacker himself. Do you believe that there is a

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concerted attack on Christians in the country right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course this has been really challenging for me.

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political beliefs that you all have and I have close.

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so you go through this whole mental gymnastics of they

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want me dead too.

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Speaker 3: I believe the.

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Speaker 4: Same things I'm saying the same things. You know, we

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get you guys probably get it too. You're so out

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their threats and hate all the things.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: About you guys, but I'm always like, eh, whatever, whatever, whatever,

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keyboard warriors, people sending stuff in the mail, even the

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phone calls, take it, FBI, take it police.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep going and doing.

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Speaker 4: But with Charlie, it was like that was very, very

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brazen and very close to home, and so you know,

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I'm still trying to get over that, like the rest

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of the country. And then Sunday was it was just

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a little too much for me because now it's people

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that have my religious beliefs too, not just assassinated in public,

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but shot and burned alive, basically, you know, burn the

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church to the ground. And so you know, you have

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to do a lot of is it all worth it?

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what you guys are speaking out and vocal to is

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what we're doing and standing for worth it? And so

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do I have any more information than you? Unfortunately know

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what you're seeing. First of all, I don't feel like

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we're getting enough news coverage of it at all. I

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don't think they're giving us up details. I do see

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videos from members of that congregation, some things that they've

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started to put out. I don't know if you know

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those have come across your you know, your feed as

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much as they would mind at this point because of

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those great algorithms. But you know, in the LDS church,

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nobody's paid. The bishop, who's like a pastor in traditional churches,

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he's not paid.

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Speaker 3: He's a volunteer. He's a dad.

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Speaker 4: He may be I don't know, he may work at lows.

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he does this on the side part time, and now

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he's got this whole congregation that's just in shambles. And

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speaking from his heart. You know, he's not the best spokesperson.

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do this, and so he's just talking about their community

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and how they're going to pick the pieces up and

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rebuild and come together. What is concerning is the gentleman

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that was the shooter, the goot, the shooter, the killer.

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with what he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the rhetoric that I'm hearing that he was viewing

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before the attack is very concerning. I haven't seen proof

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of it yet, so I'm going to kind of withhold

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my judgment. But yeah, there's an attack on Christians, there's

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attack on churches, there's an attack on faith. You know,

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what we're seeing in America is good versus evil. And

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even when we started mom'ster Liberty, I knew that, like

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I knew good versus evil. I get postcards from Satan.

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Used to be weekly, now monthly. They're postmarked out of

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Colorado by the way, but they're signed by Satan usually

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casting Daven's spell and all of these things.

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Speaker 3: So I know, oh, this is a good versus evil.

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Speaker 4: But what we've seen in the last two and a

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half weeks in our country is beyond anything I thought

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could happen.

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Speaker 1: Is it true that the church doesn't allow its congregants

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to be armed? And if that is true, you would

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you want to see that change.

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Speaker 4: So we have a handbook that The one thing about

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the Audios Church is it's very well structured. So the

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handbook is international. It goes everywhere, so a lot of

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times these policies are baseline standards so that everyone can

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Speaker 3: It does say in the handbook we shouldn't have weapons.

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I will tell you that it's not a commandment.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't say thou show not to vent yourself and

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have a weapon in church. And until they put gun

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detectors in and start patting us down on the way in.

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I don't know too many people that really follow it,

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but yeah, it shouldn't be in there. It's you know,

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your right to your First amendment, right to free speech

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in freedom of religion is so important, but it's not

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even more important than the second Amendment right that God

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gave you to defend yourself, and so for a church

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to not allow you to defend yourself.

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Speaker 5: Is in my opinion right, Yeah, yeah, it's definitely spiritual warfare.

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And I don't think that the lack of coverage is

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by accident. I think it's by design. It's kind of like,

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you know, we're just now, you know, some talking heads

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are starting to talk about the slaughtering of Christians in Nigeria,

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and that's I mean, it's it's happening all over the world.

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that it's definitely happening here. And I think, yes, we

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do get afraid kind of like, you know, you take pause,

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you know, like is this worth it? Because you mentioned

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that I think Mak and I have done that too.

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But then you start thinking, then they win, right, the

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double wins if we stop. So you just can't stop.

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And so we're glad that you do what you do. Yeah,

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really great.

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Speaker 1: How how can people learn more about Moms for Liberty

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and especially how can they get involved in the summit

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that you have planned for a couple of weeks from now.

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Speaker 4: We are so excited about our annual big event is

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our Joyful Warrior National Summit.

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Speaker 3: Last year was DC. The year before was Philadelphia. That

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was wild.

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Speaker 4: We had thousands of protesters at that event, talk about

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it hateful. They came in in Philly and smashed in

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the windows of the museum where we had our kickoff,

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the Museum of the American Revolution. They spray painted over

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the Washington crossing the Delaware mural they had like just

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Philly p d was great. We'll give them a shout out.

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But this year we're in sunny Orlando, Florida, where we'll

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be safe and secure, probably no protesters, and we're at

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the Gaylord, which is like set back and it's all

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a great place. Yeah, so we're excited about that. We've

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got an amazing lineup and still announcing speakers all the time.

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We've got Benny Johnson coming and James O'Keefe, Byron Donalds

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and his wife. We've got the Lieutenant Governor of Florida

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and the Attorney General of Florida.

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Speaker 3: We've got some asks out.

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Speaker 4: To the administration that are still trying to make their

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schedules work to come. So it's going to be great.

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The breakouts talk about screen time for kids, video games,

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cell phones. We're having a huge debate on the main

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stage about AI and education. Should we go back to

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just books in classics or should we be full force

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ahead with technology and AI. We're going to have a

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screening of Fifteen Days, a movie that just came out,

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the first live screening.

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Speaker 3: That they're going to have that.

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Speaker 4: I just have a lot going on, and the biggest

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thing that we have as our gala dinner, where we

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award seven women that are on the frontlines fighting this

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and highlight them. There's usually not a dry eye anywhere,

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so hopefully maybe you ladies will come down and join us.

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Speaker 3: We're very excited.

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Speaker 5: About that would be a lot of fun. Where can

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people find out more about it? And what are the

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dates again?

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It's in two weeks October sixteenth through the nineteenth, okay

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and galor Palms, Orlando, and they can go to Momsfliberty

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dot org Forward Slash Summit twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Sounds like a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us and catching

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us up on what Moms for Liberty is doing. It's

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great work that you all do, and we love to

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get We love to check in with you from time

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to time to get the scoop.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, love being with you ladies. You guys are fun.

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Speaker 4: Also, you know we share the same values, so that

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makes it but a little bit more fun.

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Speaker 5: Totally appreciate you spend time with us today. Thank you, Yes,

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thank you.