WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:06.879 Dark Destinations may be end times Night's creature. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:09.919 Why would a few more casually struggle. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:10.919 Me because of their blood? 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.519 Will join yours a. 5 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:17.039 Radio drama anthology. You are wrong how you figure Every 6 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:20.079 mark on Mongo is hunting you down. Not you, your partner, 7 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:23.800 he said, I didn't have a ray gun. Full cast 8 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:28.000 performances set in the haunted corners of the globe. Darkness 9 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:31.960 is coming for you. That's the fear that taunts me. 10 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:41.359 Dark Destinations by fatherm Alone at Weirdingwaymedia dot. 11 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:49.840 Com weird Way. 12 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.599 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing, the horror anthology podcast, where 13 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.879 this season we're taking a look at George A. Romero's 14 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.920 nineteen eighties series Tales from the Dark Side. Sharing the 15 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:58.239 Midnight view with me are the Culture Cast, Chris Statue 16 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:04.640 he wasn't absent, Jay Landlord, and the projection booths. Mike White, 17 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.280 Hello Detroit, you're on the air. Hello, Hello tonight. We 18 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.759 are taking a look at two episodes from season one, 19 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.360 though I guess everyone wants to talk about one in particular. 20 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.599 Those are The Devil's Advocate and The Distant Signals. Now. 21 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:22.039 The Devil's Advocate is from season two. It is episode seven, 22 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.000 It originally aired on November tenth, nineteen eighty five. This 23 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.240 was written by George A. Ramero, So watch yourselves, gentlemen, 24 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.360 and it was directed by mister Mike Hornick. This one 25 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:34.520 stars Jerry Stiller. It's the tale of a late night 26 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.800 talk radio host who's bitterness and anger with humanity make 27 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:41.400 him the perfect mouthpiece for hell. All right, who wants 28 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:42.680 to go first? Have at it? 29 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:47.599 Chris, Go ahead, ladies and gentlemen, Mine is Luther Mandrake 30 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.639 And this is Infu Warphus Jesus Christ. This is I think, 31 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.199 so far for me, probably the best thing seen in 32 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:59.159 the show. Jerry Stiller is off the wall as one 33 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.599 of the worst people we've seen on this show, if 34 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:03.960 not the worst. Some of the things that he says 35 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.199 are beyond the pale. I like that we finally have, 36 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.400 by my approximation, the first good radio DJ bit on 37 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.039 any of these anthology shows that really I think works. 38 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:18.280 Is it a little on the nose what happens at 39 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.159 the end with the mo haha, I'm the devil and 40 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.639 Nevenman my best helper, Like, oh, Jesus fucking Christ show, 41 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.800 no shit, that's what was going on. So it feels 42 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.280 a little like the show thinks that we're dumb and 43 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.280 obvious with a name like the Devil's Advocate. But I 44 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.479 think Jerry Stiller is so good that I just enjoyed 45 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:37.240 this episode I mentally and I couldn't help but thinking 46 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.719 about all of the people that are like this now 47 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:43.560 un ironically as opposed to this character being written. I 48 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.919 guess ironically, I mean for a specific purpose to be 49 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.080 an asshole who gets his come uppance, but stake lutheriper 50 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.639 Mandre can put in any one of the Alex Jonesy 51 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.199 and friends and any one of those dudes, and it's like, look, 52 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:57.520 see this is what's gonna happen with them. In the end. 53 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.879 They're gonna be on the old is the old switchboard 54 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:01.400 in hell? 55 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.360 How about you, Mike, I'm going to peel back to 56 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.439 Burton a little bit here on MADI Viewing. When we 57 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.599 record these episodes, we actually record them back to back. 58 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.400 I won't say if this was the first one or 59 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.120 the second one. You're gonna have to figure that out. 60 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.120 But a few weeks ago I was telling you guys 61 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:22.360 that of these four episodes we watched, I really liked 62 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:26.879 three of them. This is the fourth. I did not 63 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:31.759 like this episode whatsoever. I just you were talking about 64 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:35.040 how George was dumbing it down for us. I didn't 65 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:37.120 understand what the hell was going on as far as 66 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.319 at the end. Okay, so I guess he's being tortured, 67 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.319 but yet he's the devil's advocate. So is he promoting 68 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.839 that like I don't understand, and that people are talking 69 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.639 to him without a radio. He's now like a DJ, 70 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.279 taking calls from all times in all centuries. I just 71 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.360 I didn't understand how it goes. I thought that the 72 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.680 makeup effects were pretty nice, especially the way that they 73 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.319 build on him as they're going along to a point 74 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:05.120 where I was like, oh, his face looks a little different, 75 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.000 and I thought that was nice and subtle. But otherwise 76 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.439 I just didn't jive with this one. 77 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.199 Okay, near as I can figure, what has happened is 78 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.519 this man who has spent the latter part of his 79 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:23.639 life spreading hate amongst the populace, is now dead and 80 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.839 has taken his place in hell as a voice in 81 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:32.879 people's heads telling them that they're hopeless. So these people 82 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.000 don't have radios. They're confused by the idea of radios. 83 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.000 In some cases, they just hear a voice talking to 84 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.720 them and they're talking back, So that part of it 85 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.160 is really really good and actually really scary. 86 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.560 Now that makes a lot more sense. That might make 87 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.959 me reevaluate this episode. Thinking the whole voice inside their 88 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.240 heads thing that I did not connect with. 89 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.759 Yeah, I think there's a lot of cheese going on here. 90 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.319 You know, I sent you Fellows a link to what 91 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.759 Ben Stiller, son of Jerry Stiller, seemed to think of 92 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.920 this episode where he parodied it in on The Ben 93 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:15.040 Stiller Show. This five minute like late night, low budget horror. 94 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.319 I agree with you, Chris, however, that Jerry Stiller is 95 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.839 fucking going for it here and I love him. There's 96 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.120 a scene where he's just reacting to a caller where 97 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.959 he's just making fun of him by gyrating and like 98 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.879 making faces and stuff. It's fuckings, it's fucking hilarious. Like 99 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.600 it usually wouldn't work with most actors here, but he 100 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:37.959 made it great. 101 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.879 I mean, yeah, Jerry Stiller, he's gonna be Yeah, he's 102 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.199 always swinging for the fences. I mean, this is him 103 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.079 as George Costantz's dad at his most unhinged. I know 104 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.399 it's not his line. While he does say it eventually, 105 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.240 but while we were watching this episode, I was just 106 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.480 like spreadity down throughout so much of it. 107 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.480 This also reminded me of a Ninth Gallery episode, Flip 108 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:04.439 Side of Satan with Artie Shaw or already but Artie 109 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.639 Johnson from Yes. 110 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.360 Think that's what kind of yeah, that's what this When 111 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.759 I think of that episode, I think this is the 112 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:14.120 better version of that episode. 113 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.199 Of course, I was thinking, and I was curious as 114 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.959 far as when talk radio was out compared to this, 115 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.279 because it reminded me of that. And I know, I 116 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:26.319 mean that was a weird shift in America when radio 117 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.079 came back, and it came back as talk radio. I 118 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.279 mean it never left, I know, but just this whole 119 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.439 thing of like these evil DJs, and I think that's 120 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.040 what Bogosian was kind of, you know, talking about in 121 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.079 talk radio. But I mean this is well, I guess 122 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:45.600 Imus was on the air, though not what he eventually 123 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.399 became when he put on the c Span cameras or 124 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.120 whatever that was. But I mean this is prime Rush Limbaugh. 125 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.399 I mean, my gosh, both of these episodes. So this 126 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:58.560 week and last week I'm talking about us talking about 127 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.439 my stepdad, my stepdad listening to fucking rustling ball all 128 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.639 the time, which meant I had to listen to him. 129 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:06.360 Drove me up a fucking wall, and he just got 130 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:07.800 worse and worse as the years. 131 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:08.120 Why not. 132 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.759 Yeah, Romero himself had a bit of a fascination with 133 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.600 talk radio because it has been around forever and ever 134 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.920 and ever. Yeah, it plays a big part of his 135 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:20.800 nineteen seventy six film Martin. Like, the lead character of 136 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.360 Martin uses a talk radio show to call in and 137 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.439 you know, spill it his feelings and it's actually really 138 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.720 chilling at the end. Incidentally, that talk show host in 139 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.120 Martin was played by Mike Gornick, who directed this episode. 140 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.360 He's got a great Wow, he's got a really great 141 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.039 radio voice. In fact, at the end of this episode, 142 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.440 the voice of Satan telling Mandrake he was doing a 143 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.240 great job is also Mike Garnick. 144 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.039 Oh wow, Yeah, he does have a great radio voice. 145 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.120 It's been so long since I've seen Martin, but I 146 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:49.039 remember loving it. 147 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.399 Yeah, it's it's, no doubt Jeorge Ramiro's best movie. You know, 148 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.440 not my favorite, but like, but you can tell it's 149 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.360 obviously you know, it's best anyway, And yeah, I keep 150 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.679 talking about it. Lately, and somehow I keep not watching it. 151 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.039 I'm gonna have to do that later tonight. 152 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.000 Just coming soon to a culture Cast episode near you 153 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:06.639 in September. 154 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.080 Oh my god, that's right. Okay, yeah, that's why you 155 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:09.600 keep thinking. 156 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.000 That's why you've never seen September. 157 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.639 Find that lost cut that was being sold on ebed 158 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.279 and then somebody bought it and they won't release it. 159 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.960 Now, what's Yeah, I don't know what's up. I'm sure 160 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:23.919 we'll talk about that in the episode. But yeah, if 161 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.399 said print exists, and I please need to see it 162 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.759 before I die, for Christ's sake, somebody get the fuck 163 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.799 on that, like like three hours, four something. 164 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.200 I don't know, yeah, I think four hours. 165 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.320 Yeah, Okay. Here's a couple of things that I thought 166 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:42.320 about this episode. First of all, it's really interesting choice 167 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.440 to be eating a bowl of pea soup while you're 168 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:49.879 performing on a talk show that you're hungry, right, But soup, 169 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:51.360 I mean. 170 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.159 Well, what else is going to eat? Apple? Carrots? 171 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.320 Soap is very quiet if you know how to do 172 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:56.759 it right. 173 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.159 Okay, all right, all right, You've got. 174 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:00.720 You put the whole spooning your mouth and you just 175 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.840 turn it upside down. The soup falls under your tongue 176 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:04.399 and you pull it out and there's no sound. 177 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:06.639 Okay, here's the. 178 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.360 You're right, you want him to be eating ruffles once 179 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.919 you're scientifically accurate. 180 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:17.879 Here, I want him to be eating soft tacos. Okay, 181 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:23.039 oh all right, Man Drake is a prick, right, Like 182 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.679 everyone who calls in no matter what, he just slices 183 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.559 them down, right, which a couple things going on. His 184 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.519 show is called the Devil's Advocate, right, So by the 185 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.120 very nature of that title, he's going to be adversarial. 186 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.879 So what are these people calling in without hope hoping 187 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:44.639 to achieve He's literally doing his job by telling them 188 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.639 that they're wrong. You know, at least on the Night 189 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.639 Gallery there Ardie Johnson had an affair with like his 190 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.240 station manager's wife and it ended up with a suicide 191 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.679 or something like that. Right, Because here's this guy's crimes. 192 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.200 He's being a dick to people, right, but he kind 193 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.200 of has cut some legitimate beef. He rattles off a 194 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:05.600 list of things that have happened him recently or you know, 195 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.279 over the course of his life, where his mom died 196 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.320 in a plane crash because the crew sold like like 197 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.320 faulty lug nuts to them, and then his dad died 198 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.240 on a union picket line, and then his wife is 199 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.639 currently in a coma because of every yearesthetic snafu, and 200 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.759 then his son was killed by a drunk driver. You 201 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:27.080 know what, the fact that he's on his feet is 202 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:29.519 pretty okay by me, and the fact that he's just 203 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:32.279 being a dickhead on the radio doesn't mean he should 204 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.320 go straight to hell out out there. I think this 205 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:39.320 guy is he's doing okay, and he's. 206 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:40.480 Not crawling on the ground begging for mercy. 207 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.840 No, because this isn't you know, this isn't like talk radio. 208 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.240 This isn't like Barry Champlain, who is just a miserable, 209 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.799 fucking human being who you know, wants to harm other 210 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:57.559 people like because he's so like dissatisfied with himself. Like so, 211 00:11:58.200 --> 00:11:59.759 I don't know. I mean, maybe this is just a 212 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:03.080 case of this being tells from the dark side, and 213 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.600 sometimes this is what you get, motherfuckers. That's the world 214 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.200 we live in. But you know, it was a little lopside. 215 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:12.960 I mean again with something like the last episode that 216 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.879 we did with Halloween candy and satanic panic or panic 217 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.639 satanic piano. I mean the first episode is pretty mean, 218 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.720 and then this episode's pretty mean. I mean, this is yeah, 219 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:28.480 it does he deserve to become like Satan's ghoulish radio DJ. 220 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.679 Probably not, but and it's also essentially implied. It's not 221 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.600 essentially implied. It is more or less said outright that 222 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.440 the devil is the one who did all of this 223 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.960 shit to him to make him like this. So it's like, 224 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.320 wait a second here, this isn't even you're not even 225 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.360 playing fair. I mean, who expects the devil to play 226 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:43.879 fair too? 227 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.399 By the way, nobody's calling in with any real problems. 228 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.440 Heady bullshit, right, so like who cares. It's not like 229 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.440 people are calling in and going like I don't know 230 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.440 what to do. My child is dying, and he's like, 231 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.919 fuck you and your child, Like I wytn't just smother him, 232 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:57.320 mother pillow. 233 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.759 It's not like that, right though. No, it's like you're 234 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.720 a watchman. You just like to sit and watch people, 235 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.679 like what the fuck is this guy's problem? Dude? I 236 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.559 mean but again, like you, like you said father moment, 237 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.399 like I understand what his problem is. This guy has 238 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.320 had like every bad thing happened to him. Ever, is 239 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:19.000 what it feels like like, this show's moral compass always 240 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.720 points in a very strange direction, and rarely does it 241 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:24.120 point the direction I would assume it's going to point. 242 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.799 And this is one of those episodes where it's like, sure, 243 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.360 he deserves to be damned to hell forever, You're right, 244 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.600 all right, Sure, I'll follow that. 245 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.200 This show has inherited a lot of the bitterness of 246 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.519 the original Twilight, so they are totally the kind where 247 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.480 that makes Burgess Meredith just for being a book where 248 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.240 I break his glasses like that, that that spirit lives 249 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:48.120 beating hard and strong hair and fails from the dark side. 250 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.279 But that would but this show would go one step 251 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.080 further and have Burgess Meredith be blinded. 252 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:55.480 That's true. 253 00:13:55.720 --> 00:14:00.000 Yeah, yeah, he falls down and just blinds himself by accident. 254 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.440 That's how this show would go, because this show pushes 255 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:06.279 it just that little notch more, which I appreciate obviously. 256 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.440 Like for me, this show pulls the trigger when it 257 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.720 needs to and look, well, while Luther Mandrake doesn't maybe 258 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.080 deserve to be damn to hell in the context of 259 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:16.879 the story, this guy's kind of a piece of shit. 260 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.080 I mean, he's maybe not the biggest piece of shit, 261 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:21.639 and it turns out that the Devil was not playing fair. 262 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.559 But when does it ever right? 263 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:27.159 Exactly what I really want to Georgia. 264 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.759 That's when what I really liked in the episode is 265 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.720 it begins with Mandrake arriving and he's complaining. He's apologizing 266 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:35.960 for being late and complaining for the reason, which is 267 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:38.720 there was a dead guy outside his apartment, and it's 268 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.000 him like in the end, Like I just thought that 269 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:44.279 was like and nice, Yeah, but I also see all 270 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.519 of the cheese that was involved in the episode with 271 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.600 him just sort of railing against the problems of America 272 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:55.480 and you know that switchboard, that glowing thing that ugh, 273 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.080 that was not great, you know. And here I wrote 274 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.360 in my notes to things, these makeup changes are not subtle. 275 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.360 And then I also hear it, Ah wolf Man wolf 276 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:10.120 Man Stiller baby, Yep, he was. He was gotten pretty 277 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.759 wolfy pretty quickly. Like it's, like I said, not a 278 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.360 subtle effect. But I don't know. Ultimately, I like this episode. 279 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:18.320 I like that this show has spent a lot of 280 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:21.919 time getting these like old school actors into like ugly makeup, 281 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.279 like Jerry Stiller, Eddie Bracken, Like let's just get these 282 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.840 like classic comedic actors and make them look gross and 283 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.679 fucking weird, Like all right, sure, why not? Who cares? 284 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.240 What I love is all these old school actors are game? 285 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.600 Yeah, oh totally yeah. Fuck yah Chuck McCann talking to 286 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.759 some aliens. The best one still, Frankly, that one will 287 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.120 stick with me forever. 288 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:45.600 As it should. 289 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:46.840 Right, that was the. 290 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:52.720 Point, all right? Moving on? Our next episode is Distant Signals. 291 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.279 This is season two, episode eight. It aired originally on 292 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:58.960 November the seventeenth, nineteen eighty five. Written by Ted Gershooni. 293 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.320 Written by Ted Gershooni from a story by Andrew Wiener, 294 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.440 directed by Bill Travis. This one's starring a trio of spooksters, 295 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.000 Colchak and X Files and Millennium Darren McGavin and Twin 296 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.960 Peaks is Lenny von Dollen and the Ghostbusters mayor David Margallies. 297 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.759 This is about a mysterious businessman who reunites the creator 298 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.600 and actor from a fifties detective series that was canceled 299 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.600 mid season to film a new ending for an audience 300 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.200 not from around here. What do you think of this one? 301 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:37.360 Chris so Galaxy quis right, That's what this reminded me of. 302 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.440 I mean one, I mean, yeah, yeah, well, I mean 303 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:43.200 it's this. When I realized where this was going, I 304 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.519 was like, oh my god, that's what this is. Huh. 305 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:48.720 And look what's funny is on top of everything else, 306 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:53.200 it's oddly prescient about legacy sequels and the return of 307 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.840 like TV shows from twenty or thirty years ago. What 308 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.559 can you let me? Wan Dolan literally from Twin Peaks. 309 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.320 I think it was by the time the return. 310 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.879 Yeah right, But I mean if he had been alive, 311 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.559 he totally would have been in it, right, I mean, 312 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.400 I mean everybody else was literally Everett McGill showed back 313 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.960 up and he hadn't done shit for what the lolling time. 314 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.559 Missing an action. I remember David Lynch putting out a 315 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:17.960 call at the same way. Know where ever McGill is 316 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:19.039 he alive. 317 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.319 But you know, with something like this, there's a lot 318 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.680 going on here that feels very contemporary in a way 319 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:28.880 that I was not expecting. But it does feel like 320 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.720 other things that have come out since that are I mean, 321 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.359 for me, Galaxy Quest is the top of the pile 322 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.319 of these kinds of things for a lot of reasons. 323 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.200 But actually really liked this and I think it was 324 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.359 really good. In Luck Dade. We had to talk about 325 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.440 Dearren McGavin. Mike, what's up with that? I know, so 326 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.799 excited we go dear McGavin again just for a little bit. 327 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:50.440 Didn't even realize it was him at first, and then 328 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.319 I was like, oh, holy shit. As soon he started talking, 329 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.359 I was like, oh wow, this is great. Yeah. I 330 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.079 was just already tickled pink just to see Harold from 331 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.759 Twin Peaks come back or whatever his character's name was 332 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:06.720 in Electric Dreams. I mean, he plays that creepy alien 333 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.160 so perfectly, and he always has that other world that 334 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.720 they look with those like light blue eyes and the 335 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.680 dark hair. I thought that he was perfect in that role. 336 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.839 And I really liked just this whole thing. Yes, even 337 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.559 though I'm a big fan of Galaxy Quest and I 338 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:24.720 know this is coming much earlier, and I kind of 339 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:28.240 want to track down the Andrew Weener Distance Signals story 340 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:31.799 to read it and see how much that is, you know, 341 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:33.839 how close it is to this is and how close 342 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.519 it is to Galaxy Quest, because yeah, this just felt 343 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.640 so much like that and I appreciated it though, and 344 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.559 I'd like this whole idea of like, you know, nobody 345 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.839 is ever going to see this other than the people 346 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.960 on my home planet Sea Pouci. 347 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.119 Out excellent comparison there, because this reminds me of an 348 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:56.000 episode of Futurama called When Aliens Attack, where Aliens are 349 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.880 going to destroy Earth unless they get the final episode 350 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:02.039 of Single Female, which is a parody of Ali McBeal 351 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.119 a character named mc neil. It's one of the best 352 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.720 episodes of Futurama. It is this exact lot. 353 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.000 Wow, that's funny. 354 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.400 Who would want to watch a show in black and white? 355 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:14.720 Really? 356 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:17.680 Who would know a network would ever air such a thing? 357 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:20.839 The funniest just like. 358 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:23.920 The articles about the Ripley series that. 359 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.119 Was just oh yeah, right, that put That did put 360 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.359 off a lot of people. Actually, yeah, what's funny is 361 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.920 that the Twin Peaks the Return thing like immediately sprang 362 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.799 to mind. Thanks to Lenny von Dolan's involvement here, this 363 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.079 in fact, could be a documentary of how that show 364 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:44.720 got made. Twin Peaks yeps, you know, I could totally 365 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.720 see they send some fucking total weirdo. We're just like, 366 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.240 I've got gold bars everybody, you know. 367 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.160 The people that I represent have lots more gold bars. 368 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.039 Where that came from? 369 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.279 As well. What did you say about gold Bars. Yeah, 370 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:00.759 if it's a little. 371 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.000 Weird that the show that they end up producing doesn't 372 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:06.640 take place in the seventies, Like I know that they 373 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:09.599 try and age everybody down and everything, but like if 374 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.680 you're on that planet waiting for the next episode and 375 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.160 suddenly you get this Darren McGavin, you'd be like, wait, 376 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.319 what happened? Did they falter a time warp? Like? And 377 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.799 I'm sure those questions are valid on that planet, like 378 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:22.559 what happened? Like why? 379 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.680 Well? And I imagine they have to be kind of 380 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:29.599 speaking to Darren McGavin as Mike camer when you with him, 381 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.039 you know, years before Colechak. I'm sure that they I 382 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:34.839 wouldn't be surprised as if I went back and watched 383 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.799 Mike camera if it was kind of cripping from the 384 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.480 dialogue and stuff, just very typical Gribby stuff. And I 385 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.000 like that they finally solved the mystery. I thought that 386 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:45.960 was kind of nice that we actually get to see it. 387 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:47.839 I thought that they were going to keep that from us. 388 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:51.279 Yeah, I thought we did spend a lot of time 389 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.000 at the end with the actual episode of the series 390 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.160 a little too long, maybe because that it's not great. 391 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.359 It is very cliche The long whilest Brother, And although 392 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.240 I did enjoy McGavin pirouetting before he shot his brother, 393 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.480 and then I also loved by the way, how fucking 394 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.599 blaise Like he's like, I'm your long lost older brother, 395 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:14.640 pirowett bang sayya, just like saunters off into the sunset. 396 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.920 That's the end. I hope you enjoy that, Aliens, I. 397 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:20.440 Got to see the end of the series of the 398 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:21.680 historical documents. 399 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.599 Yes, you know, it's kind of a silly episode in 400 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:28.039 some ways, but in other ways it feels like, you know, 401 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:31.599