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Speaker 2: That I'm This is exactly what I need you to
Speaker 2: do tonight for your kind consideration. Look, we're gonna cover
Speaker 2: all kinds of fun stuff. You know, Launch season is
Speaker 2: no longer coming soon Detroit Liveries happened, host drops and
Speaker 2: renders twenty twenty six. We sets are gonna feel a
Speaker 2: little real, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We got Cadillac Audi. Should we just talk about Audi dos?
Speaker 2: I don't know. We're gonna talk about stuff. But before
Speaker 2: doing that, I gotta go find my my co host
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Speaker 3: How you doing? I'm doing pretty good, Todd, How are
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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for do you
Speaker 2: happen to own a pair of Audi Doos, Grace.
Speaker 3: I don't own any Audi dos oh okay, just checking.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But why do we call him Adidas?
Speaker 3: Audi Dos? Is much more fun to say, isn't it fun?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it is right.
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Speaker 2: Almost like the metrics system. We refuse to say it rightly.
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 4: Well that, I mean that would be very American of us,
Speaker 4: Like we know, we know that's wrong, but we choose
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Speaker 3: It's foxy.
Speaker 4: Not only would we choose to be wrong, but we
Speaker 4: would we would double down on it. Well, you're the
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Speaker 4: If not, we didn't invent it, but we are claiming it,
Speaker 4: and we will say correctly.
Speaker 3: And you are the ones that are.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about some Formula one news because
Speaker 2: this is an F one podcast. So look, Ferrari announced
Speaker 2: this week they've changed Lewis Hamilton's race engineer. Ricardo Dami
Speaker 2: moved off of number forty four. What happened, well, Ferrari
Speaker 2: reassigned Ricardo Dami to a new rule. I think grace,
Speaker 2: what is it the test team and.
Speaker 4: Again right, yeah, I think they made him a helmet Marco,
Speaker 4: the helmet Marco of Ferrari.
Speaker 2: That's right. They were kind of like good by, good
Speaker 2: luck and good there you go. So they moved him
Speaker 2: over like a potted plant, over to this part of
Speaker 2: the office in Ferraris.
Speaker 3: That is jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. So are those china paper plates
Speaker 2: they hold chinette? That's it.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 2: Thanks for correcting me. Yeah, so that means Lewis gets
Speaker 2: a new race engineer for twenty twenty six. Now Ferrari
Speaker 2: head and folks don't get excited. Ferrari hasn't named the
Speaker 2: replacement yet. But I did see some speculation online that
Speaker 2: it could be Luca Dilla. But I don't No one
Speaker 2: knows that. Okay, I can't say that for now. How
Speaker 2: would I know that. I don't work for Ferrari. I
Speaker 2: don't see here I know, so I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's Luca. I mean, but it why not, right, that's
Speaker 2: the name of one of my.
Speaker 3: I means, that's true, but not after that Luca.
Speaker 2: But yees, not after that look at different one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we.
Speaker 4: Can make up anything, right, it's pre season. Yeah, who
Speaker 4: knows who is engineer race engineer?
Speaker 3: Mind?
Speaker 2: It could be Christian Horner, who knows.
Speaker 3: That is not who? Again?
Speaker 4: A race engineer needs to be the medium guy, right
Speaker 4: because something's.
Speaker 3: The drivers is like wow, what's happened? Oh my god.
Speaker 4: He just needs to be like listen, Todd, focus on it,
Speaker 4: on the race in front of you.
Speaker 3: Just keep your you know, like.
Speaker 4: He's the coolest, you know guy like Christian Horner is
Speaker 4: not that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I mean, look you yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought up. I mean, race engineer is all about relationship, right.
Speaker 2: That equals like execution under pressure, strategy, calls tired state,
Speaker 2: tied person, switch setting, what engine modes. You know, there's
Speaker 2: that confidence that builds between race engineer. It's not just
Speaker 2: an f one. I've heard Paul do that and when
Speaker 2: I was, you know, sitting in with harder racing. So
Speaker 2: there's a real cadence and a relationship that that is there.
Speaker 2: I would say a change though, is kind of a
Speaker 2: big admission that the process isn't working or needs improving, right,
Speaker 2: And you know, the reporting frame to this is sort
Speaker 2: of a fallout from a tense for a season and
Speaker 2: radio friction and I don't know, in one sense, I think, okay,
Speaker 2: well that's probably that's been relatively easy to detect if
Speaker 2: I'm if I'm honest. But you know, you could say, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: we hear the radio snippets and that sort of thing,
Speaker 2: and that might be. But on the other sense, I mean,
Speaker 2: how fair is that given Lewis's long history of Bono,
Speaker 2: they had a long time to develop that relationship. And
Speaker 2: on one sense you could say, well, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's odd that Lewis struggled with him when you know
Speaker 2: clearly Carlos did Ricky. It can't be Ricky. And then
Speaker 2: I thought, well, no, wait a minute, I have that
Speaker 2: other one that shows maybe there is a struggle. Oh see,
Speaker 2: Lewis is the only one not getting response.
Speaker 3: No, I mean Carlo.
Speaker 4: Him and Carlos always had yeah, some issues him and Ricky. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, and it could be. I mean again, it's
Speaker 4: kind of like it's dating. Like sometimes it takes a
Speaker 4: couple of dates and you're like, you know what, I
Speaker 4: was a little luke warm on this person, and now
Speaker 4: I wore a couple of days in it. Sometimes you're
Speaker 4: halfway through date one day like I never want to
Speaker 4: see this person again, right, you know what I mean? So,
Speaker 4: because it is that is the person, not only who
Speaker 4: they have to triangulate not just it's not just the
Speaker 4: person that talks to the driver, but they also have
Speaker 4: to like translate from the driver to the rest of
Speaker 4: the team and to the team principle, Like it's that
Speaker 4: conduit between you know, you on the track and everybody
Speaker 4: else on the team because they can talk to each other,
Speaker 4: but you can't as the driver.
Speaker 3: So it's not just that which is the only communication
Speaker 3: we hear.
Speaker 4: We just hear the race engineer to the driver, but
Speaker 4: that race engineer is also like, you know, managing other
Speaker 4: stuff at the same time.
Speaker 3: But it's like a co driver in you know, rally,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: That person and has the notes and you if they say,
Speaker 4: you know, long left open, you have to drive like
Speaker 4: that's correct.
Speaker 3: You can't second guess that.
Speaker 4: So I think any kind of tension you're gonna have,
Speaker 4: that's that's gonna be a that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if it could just be optics,
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's one way to view it.
Speaker 4: Like if you think this is just an overblown thing
Speaker 4: because of not you, but people think this is an
Speaker 4: overblown thing, and that oh Louis this was it could
Speaker 4: be optics, right, like, and that may be fair.
Speaker 3: May not be fair.
Speaker 4: Things happen for optics all the time, but I think
Speaker 4: it's very clear that people are like, something's not right here, yeah,
Speaker 4: and something needs to be fixed. I mean it's kind
Speaker 4: of like with Yuki, right, everybody's like, oh Yuki in
Speaker 4: his language. Well, everybody kind of has to mind their
Speaker 4: p's and q's on the radio.
Speaker 3: It's not just the drivers.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, you bring up what I definitely could
Speaker 2: see some criticisms, and oh, you're just over indexing the
Speaker 2: whole radio drama. I mean we hear edited snippets, not
Speaker 2: the full you know, engineer driver loop. We don't really
Speaker 2: hear that, right, uh, and fair enough, But I would
Speaker 2: say still for already making a move implies internal consensus
Speaker 2: and that something wasn't quite working there.
Speaker 4: No, and and you know, and I think again, it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean he's bad at his job or a bad person.
Speaker 4: He may just not be Lewis's person. He may not
Speaker 4: have been Carlos's person, and Lewis has the juice.
Speaker 3: To get it moved, you know, in a way.
Speaker 4: That didn't have that kind of juice for sure, Right,
Speaker 4: But you know, I think that we've all worked with
Speaker 4: another enough human beings as coworkers are our life that
Speaker 4: sometimes you can be like that person's really smart and
Speaker 4: I cannot work with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have.
Speaker 4: To make it work, or you find a new position,
Speaker 4: or you find some other project to work on.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes just.
Speaker 2: That what Ricky and Lewis's love languages are?
Speaker 3: You know, maybe maybe acts of service?
Speaker 2: No, not active service. Who knows in.
Speaker 3: Terms of endearment, but probably not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, on the flip side, a
Speaker 2: new engineer isn't a silver bullet. But if the core
Speaker 2: issue was you know, is the car, then but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, i'd suggest even so, they're definitely felt like
Speaker 2: there was just sort of a lack of chemistry and communication.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly didn't have that. I did. I did.
Speaker 4: When I read this news story though, I was like,
Speaker 4: what else from my wish list from three podcasts ago
Speaker 4: came true?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe somebody does listen to this podcast?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: What else could I have this season that I really wanted?
Speaker 2: Right? Right? Right?
Speaker 3: I had that kind of power?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, it's you know, one sense
Speaker 2: you think, well, you know, but you know, you and
Speaker 2: I we said this one a podcast or two ago
Speaker 2: we were talking about, you know, on one hand, you think, well,
Speaker 2: Lewis does seemed to be sort of struggling on that
Speaker 2: communication thing. He's not getting the kind of feedback that
Speaker 2: he would want, et cetera, et cetera. But then we
Speaker 2: were talking about, you know, but I can't say that
Speaker 2: Charlotte Clair's radio and it's some little snips that we hear.
Speaker 2: You know, he gets a little animated with his race
Speaker 2: engineer too. So yeah, maybe maybe, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: Ferrari needs to have those guys log into their ADP
Speaker 2: LMS system and take a few courses. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think there's more Ferrari than a few courses can solve.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying, right.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, don't I know it.
Speaker 4: Like Williams of Old Like I think I think, you know,
Speaker 4: everything just being done, Patrick head heads away.
Speaker 3: Isn't it does something you can untrained?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's you know, right, so true? I agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick, All right, there you go.
Speaker 2: And other big news this week, well, we did have
Speaker 2: Red Bulls twenty twenty six hour launch had in Detroit
Speaker 2: launch and Ford Power Unit messaging around the launch. Early
Speaker 2: engine you know, a scuttle butt though going on, I
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. So what happened, Well, Red Bull
Speaker 2: and Racing Bulls they had a joint launch, a joint
Speaker 2: event in Detroit, revealed the twenty twenty six looks of
Speaker 2: the car, the liveries, et cetera, et cetera. Over at Reuters,
Speaker 2: they in the article they were talking about Red Bull
Speaker 2: push back on the idea that the Ford partnership is
Speaker 2: just marketing. They're saying, no, no, no, this is an
Speaker 2: engine leadership initiative. And they were saying, hey, look, you
Speaker 2: know the engine development. This is a big move for
Speaker 2: in it is it's a huge move, folks. Engine leadership
Speaker 2: is you know, was publicly setting some strong expectations of
Speaker 2: what they hope to get out of the car. Is
Speaker 2: reading some other articles and they were talking about the
Speaker 2: gamble and we've talked about this certainly Grace in the past,
Speaker 2: you know Red Bull when Dietrich made the decision that
Speaker 2: you know, it was after the Renault RAU and then
Speaker 2: the Honda and then they were kind of like, okay,
Speaker 2: so they're going to change the engine regulation. Look, I'm
Speaker 2: done being attached to an engine supplier deal. And Mercedes
Speaker 2: and Ferrari wouldn't sell them a lumpfect in the Renault row,
Speaker 2: and so they said, we're just going to build her own.
Speaker 2: And it was a huge investment, very smart people over
Speaker 2: there working on that program. So it's a big gamble, right.
Speaker 2: And the interesting part about this is sort of percolating
Speaker 2: coming out of the F one scene, is that the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six engine rig interpretation is there's a little
Speaker 2: dispute bubbling here. It's centered on the allegation or the
Speaker 2: alleged exploitation of thermal expansion which impacts the compression rate measurement.
Speaker 2: And so I got to dig in a little deeper
Speaker 2: on there. Yeah, the loophole in how the max I'm
Speaker 2: going to read this. I thought it was a decent
Speaker 2: breakdown of it, sokay, Pole, because I'm not an engine engineer, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I just relied on the race's graphics department in
Speaker 4: order to understand what was going on.
Speaker 2: Right, right, I mean if Derek Berry doesn't work on it,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. So you know, if so,
Speaker 2: the loophole in how the maximum geometric compression ratio of
Speaker 2: sixteen to one is measured in force, that's what it's around.
Speaker 2: So while the rural state that the limit must be
Speaker 2: met at ambient cold temperature, rival teams suspect that Mercedes
Speaker 2: and Rebel power trains of design engines that exploit that
Speaker 2: that thermal expansion where the components actually expand when they
Speaker 2: get heated during operation, allowing the effective compression ratio to
Speaker 2: rise above sixteen to one while running on track. Now,
Speaker 2: this could estimates and suggestions are it could restore performance
Speaker 2: close to the previous eighteen eighteen to one limit, potentially
Speaker 2: delivering what's that mean on track ten to thirteen horsepower
Speaker 2: gain equivalent to about point three or point four seconds
Speaker 2: per lap, or at least that's the argument.
Speaker 4: I mean in a sport where they're like taking off
Speaker 4: paint because the car's too heavy, it matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know right, like that means right right right,
Speaker 2: As we've talked about before Grace, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: three tenths, four tenths over fifty sixty seventy elapses a lot, right,
Speaker 2: So that's a big deal. But anyway, Red Bull effectively
Speaker 2: becoming a new power unit manufacturer at the exact moment
Speaker 2: F one's biggest reset arrives, and you know that's a
Speaker 2: that's the highest variance bet on the grid if you're
Speaker 2: asking me of all the gambles and the bets, and
Speaker 2: and you know, Audi coming in, I think is one.
Speaker 2: But it's Audi, right, yeah, Renault Alpine moving to Mercedes
Speaker 2: and Mercedes eight Cadillac coming in using Ferrari, that makes sense,
Speaker 2: Hash using Ferrari doing some engineering work and concepting with Toyota,
Speaker 2: Honda going over to Aston Martin. But it's Honda, right,
Speaker 2: they're just leaving. So I think that I would say
Speaker 2: the two biggest gambles certainly is Red Bull with its
Speaker 2: own power unit and Audi. But Audi has a history
Speaker 2: of making racing engines.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and Red Bulls yeah, and Red.
Speaker 2: Bull doesn't have it. So they're really smart people that
Speaker 2: have made them, of course, but this is a new program, right.
Speaker 2: But I will say on the flip side of that,
Speaker 2: they've had time to let that bake, right and let
Speaker 2: it cook. You know, if the loophole debate is real,
Speaker 2: it's also a preview of the twenty twenty six politics, right,
Speaker 2: the rules, wording, the test conditions, the accusations will fester
Speaker 2: before the cars even run publicly.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see Ted try to explain this
Speaker 3: to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a wedge of yeah, which should be good.
Speaker 2: I think he can pull it off. He's an enterprising
Speaker 2: young fellow.
Speaker 4: That ted, that's right, And then he'll start asking other
Speaker 4: people you know that it was walking past him, like
Speaker 4: you understand what it's talking about?
Speaker 2: Do you know the cheese? Right that?
Speaker 3: You know? It's an engine right ford on it.
Speaker 2: We've seen enough of these preseason We've been around, you know,
Speaker 2: a season or two Grace you know, in the past,
Speaker 2: loophole talking January is off and sort of that fog
Speaker 2: of war and rivalry paranoia that you kind of get
Speaker 2: leading into the season. But the fact that reputable outlets
Speaker 2: and reporting it suggests that there's probably some paddock seriousness
Speaker 2: to this and not just a fan rumor.
Speaker 4: Right, that's right, No, No, there's there's there's investment being
Speaker 4: made by you know, yes, legitimate news sources into this issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know Red Bull's confidence at
Speaker 2: the launch, certainly that was a good marketing event. Uh.
Speaker 2: The real question though, beyond the livery and beyond even
Speaker 2: some of the trick arrow and those kind of things
Speaker 2: that we're not going to really see definitive rear wings
Speaker 2: until they run. But all that being said, it really
Speaker 2: comes down to reliability, energy deployment once the testing begins,
Speaker 2: and how that red Bull engine performs along with in
Speaker 2: conjunction with Ford. So that'll be interesting to see. I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess from my perspective, Grace, is Red Bull's biggest
Speaker 2: risk in twenties twenty six really hardware or the political
Speaker 2: cost of being seen as gaming the new REGs or both?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I think I think the political
Speaker 4: the you know, are they pushing the engine rangs that'll
Speaker 4: get solved real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's not like we're going to be like.
Speaker 4: You know, at you know, Catalonia, trying to decide if
Speaker 4: there's a thing it'll be settled by a show, right
Speaker 4: like it it's gonna come and go real fast if
Speaker 4: it's one way or the other, right because you can't,
Speaker 4: you can't run this series with something like that hanging
Speaker 4: over everybody's heads.
Speaker 3: And really they've probably already solved it. Now.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that we won't keep talking about it,
Speaker 4: or that the teams won't continue to push the narrative.
Speaker 4: But this isn't just something. It's not like, well, I
Speaker 4: guess we'll just wait and see. That's not how this
Speaker 4: is going to work, right, So I don't I don't
Speaker 4: think that's going to hang out for a very long.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always about the hardware. I think that
Speaker 4: we'll you know, and especially if the hardware doesn't do well, right,
Speaker 4: I think that'll be a surprise because we're just not
Speaker 4: used to seeing Red Bull. You know, even red Bull
Speaker 4: at it's it's bad days, we're still pretty good, you know.
Speaker 4: So I think I think that they're just it would
Speaker 4: be like Mercedes, right, Like Mercedes. Some part of mercedes
Speaker 4: struggle with the hybrid is they've struggled with the hybrid,
Speaker 4: but it's also taken a hit to who they are,
Speaker 4: to their you know, their ego or their ethos or whatever,
Speaker 4: like they're uncomfortable being in this place, unlike you know
Speaker 4: McLaren or Ferrari that I was born in the darkness,
Speaker 4: right like they are from this place, and they continue
Speaker 4: to put themselves back in this place right for no
Speaker 4: reason to themselves. Right.
Speaker 3: So I think that.
Speaker 4: Mercedes was sort of like, but but we're Mercedes, we win.
Speaker 4: We were not winning, right like, So I think that
Speaker 4: Red Houle there would be some struggles on top of
Speaker 4: the teething pains that they have to be going through.
Speaker 4: They just they went through a big change. You know,
Speaker 4: they're keeping Mechi's on board a lot of other I'm
Speaker 4: sure that. You know, again, as we've talked about, like
Speaker 4: we know four names, there's hundreds of people, thousands of
Speaker 4: people that work with that team, right, and so that's
Speaker 4: going to al reshuffle itself as well. There are going
Speaker 4: to be people that are going to be like, you
Speaker 4: know what, I don't like Mechi's, or you'll hire people
Speaker 4: because like any side of a big change like that
Speaker 4: is going to shuffle all your other people, just like
Speaker 4: it would at any of our other jobs. So I
Speaker 4: think that's really I mean, I think that's what will
Speaker 4: be of interest. I think this loophole talk will go
Speaker 4: behind doors. It's I mean, if people if people think
Speaker 4: you don't want to hear about tires, you definitely don't
Speaker 4: want to hear about engine compression, right, You're like, what,
Speaker 4: it's just such a such a minutia that people are
Speaker 4: not not gonna want to hear listen to that.
Speaker 3: So but I did.
Speaker 4: I did also enjoy it the launch itself. I like
Speaker 4: that all they can ask Max is about the color,
Speaker 4: the color scheme.
Speaker 3: It's a new kind of paint now. He's like, yes,
Speaker 3: I've been telling you to use that paint.
Speaker 4: Like this is all we can talk about is the
Speaker 4: shade of red and blue that we're using. This is great,
Speaker 4: shut yay, shine.
Speaker 2: No more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 4: Ezac was just sort of like checking out the car,
Speaker 4: like what's going on back here? Max is just like yeah,
Speaker 4: I know this works, and chatting away with you know
Speaker 4: whoever the host was. Ezac just like what's the car?
Speaker 4: He's like vetyl, you know, like checking it out, see
Speaker 4: what's going on. It's like, man, it's not your car.
Speaker 3: It's all right.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, they had some they had some
Speaker 4: stuff going on, and you know, it's red Bulls, so they.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like the Racing Bulls looked better
Speaker 2: than the Red Bulls. I kind of liked the Racing
Speaker 2: Bulls delivery. Yeah, I did like that. So I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty nice. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see
Speaker 2: how they do. It's certainly a lot of debate, and
Speaker 2: I was reading a lot of debate and there's been
Speaker 2: you know, videos on it and stuff like that about
Speaker 2: where where they pundits Anyway, I think they'll be competitively.
Speaker 2: It's hard to know, you know, it really is hard
Speaker 2: to know. Will they come out? You know, they they
Speaker 2: they had been working with Honda. Honda was very strong.
Speaker 2: They developed with Honda, they had that great relationship, produced
Speaker 2: world championships together, reliable power unit, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And now this is their own creation. Will it be
Speaker 2: competitive on pace? Will they come out and have a
Speaker 2: shot at the championship? If as rumors would suggest that
Speaker 2: Mercedes is rumored to have the strongest engine going into
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. If that's the case, then Mercedes, McLaren, Alpine,
Speaker 2: Williams all have a really good strong engine that, if
Speaker 2: the rumors are right, would be the strongest. Well that's four.
Speaker 2: Then that would put red Bull possibly fifth, right, sixth
Speaker 2: maybe could be depending on Aston, Martin and Honda and
Speaker 2: how good the Honda is. So I don't know. It's interesting.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine Red Bull running of fourth, fifth fastest.
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3: I have no faith in Alpine. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think you can put any engine you want. That pile
Speaker 3: of cardboards.
Speaker 2: Well, they got to get the chassis right, I seen right.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Flavio's fixed it and
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. I just think that you can go whatever
Speaker 4: engine you want in that pile of aluminium cardboard.
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm not sure it's going to be fourth.
Speaker 2: But I don't know either, you know, but Williams, I
Speaker 2: could see them pulling surprise run fifth, you know.
Speaker 3: Surprises all this year.
Speaker 4: I think they surprise themselves. So I think that, yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So I don't know where they're gonna Let us know
Speaker 2: what you guys think. Where do you think Red Bull
Speaker 2: with their brand new power unit is going to be running.
Speaker 2: It'd be very interesting this this shakedown, and very interesting
Speaker 2: to see where the Audie runs too. It's going to
Speaker 2: be very interesting.
Speaker 4: I hope somebody hires Christian Horner like I need Hit,
Speaker 4: I need drive to survive. I need him speaking about
Speaker 4: this team. If it doesn't go well.
Speaker 2: I know you've got a problem. Change your car exactly
Speaker 2: like I just I think Alpine should do it. I
Speaker 2: think Alpine he should come in, have an ownership position,
Speaker 2: turn that team around using Toto's own engine. I think
Speaker 2: it would be glorious Christian Horner using Toto's engine. I
Speaker 2: just think that would be capital, that would be drive
Speaker 2: to survive gold.
Speaker 3: That's right, That's what I remember, you know, the.
Speaker 2: The the the words and stuff with Renault. You know
Speaker 2: when he was mad at that engine. Imagine him being
Speaker 2: mad at the Mercedes.
Speaker 3: That would be Lars.
Speaker 4: Oh I can't, I can't, So somebody please, I'm putting
Speaker 4: that all my wish.
Speaker 3: Please somebody hire him. And I'd like to see.
Speaker 2: You may have to go all cereal of bite bull
Speaker 2: on Toto, you.
Speaker 3: Know, funny, we need that. That's the content we do.
Speaker 2: That is the content we need. Hey, and other big reveals.
Speaker 2: Now has Reville the F twenty six VF twenty six look.
Speaker 2: Everybody was kind of squinting at the new air of
Speaker 2: proportions and what the cars are supposed to look like,
Speaker 2: or at least what the renders did. They released did
Speaker 2: it renders of the VF twenty six Livery and some
Speaker 2: early styling cues. It was good look and livery though,
Speaker 2: I will say that, so, you know, and some of
Speaker 2: the sort of twenty two and six design queues kind
Speaker 2: of starting to show their show their their look. The comfort,
Speaker 2: you know, the coverage really is all about most of
Speaker 2: these cars, smaller, lighter cars, and season is sort of
Speaker 2: what would one would imply that this could be a
Speaker 2: season of real rapid development, or or so one would hope.
Speaker 2: So despite the cost cap limitations, but you know, those
Speaker 2: can always thwart your developments program. But to be fair,
Speaker 2: host did a really good job of that last year.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not like they got to Aberlin and
Speaker 2: said we're out of money. That's that's the we have
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. They really did a
Speaker 2: great job of developing, bringing a new underfoor late in
Speaker 2: the season, putting in some great performance. Very proud of
Speaker 2: that team and what they achieved mid and late season
Speaker 2: in that development, because I would have thought they'd squeeze
Speaker 2: that limon for all the juice they got early on,
Speaker 2: but they didn't. So one, yeah, exactly. You know, he's
Speaker 2: an engineer at heart, right. I think they did it,
Speaker 2: did a good job. There was some suggestion that the
Speaker 2: six twenty six cars may require drivers to relearn and
Speaker 2: entire fundamentals of what they knew, and perhaps that's true.
Speaker 4: That's what o'conn said, right, was like I'm going to
Speaker 4: forget everything.
Speaker 3: I'm starting all over here, you know.
Speaker 2: They're all over right, And perhaps that's true given all
Speaker 2: the serious change in chassis arrow fifty to fifty energy deployment,
Speaker 2: you can imagine some of that would have a pretty
Speaker 2: dramatic effect on the driveability of the car. And they'll
Speaker 2: have been used to the old power unit and the
Speaker 2: driveability and engine deployment this will be even more so.
Speaker 2: So I think that that I think he's got a
Speaker 2: point there. Yeah, so, but I think I think Grace
Speaker 2: Haas is a great barometer. You know, if they're talking
Speaker 2: about the severity of a reset, then I think the
Speaker 2: reset's real. They you know, Kamatsu's They're not the kind
Speaker 2: of people out talking.
Speaker 4: They're not gamesmanship, No, not really at right, like who
Speaker 4: you're gaming?
Speaker 3: Right? Like where is Mercedes or Red Bull?
Speaker 4: And the statesmanship and so you know, like you know,
Speaker 4: the more Lewis would complain about his tires, she's funny,
Speaker 4: the better they seem right, right, you know.
Speaker 3: So it was like, yeah, but has there's who are
Speaker 3: they playing that game with? They're Haas, They're last, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think yeah, because I think they're they're
Speaker 2: a pretty good barana or a good bell weather for
Speaker 2: what really is a situation I twenty twenty six may
Speaker 2: reward teams who kind of hit the baseline earlier, weight, cooling,
Speaker 2: drive ability, Like I mentioned, I think those are all
Speaker 2: good more than than chasing, like fancy concepts and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I got to think could has have gotten the
Speaker 2: baseline right because that tends to be what they focus on.
Speaker 2: This nail the baseline right and then developed there instead
Speaker 2: of gambling on some sort of trick design and we're
Speaker 2: all in and we're upside down for the balance of season.
Speaker 2: They want to make sure that they nail the baseline,
Speaker 2: that they've got a relatively competitive card, then we can
Speaker 2: develop from there. It'd be interesting to see if they've
Speaker 2: got that baseline there that they can develop. But all
Speaker 2: that being said, I think that that you know, these
Speaker 2: are renders, renders hide a lot. I mean, obviously the
Speaker 2: first real tales will be the package and cooling exits
Speaker 2: on track behavior, not Instagram and angles and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, I think it's a big rule
Speaker 2: reset and do smaller teams gain because the map is
Speaker 2: erased or lose because resources matter more than ever We've
Speaker 2: seen this. We've seen this before, Grace with Haas themselves
Speaker 2: in the first season, and then some might say, well,
Speaker 2: the little teams, you know, but Braun came out, you know,
Speaker 2: a punch him other ways, But I'd argue Braun was
Speaker 2: really Honda.
Speaker 4: Right they were, But I mean, and I think it'll
Speaker 4: be interesting to see how they're I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's a full partnership, but the relationship with Gantu and
Speaker 4: with Toyota, right see how that I guess their new
Speaker 4: wind tunnel isn't going to come online until later in
Speaker 4: this April, I think they were saying.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see how.
Speaker 4: That relationship kind of plays out because it's it seems
Speaker 4: more complicated than just like, hey, they're on board, and
Speaker 4: it certainly, I certainly don't get the sense from any
Speaker 4: of the pundits that all of a sudden Toyota is
Speaker 4: just going to step in like this is just you know,
Speaker 4: like like Sober is going to step out and out
Speaker 4: He's going to step in, right Like.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be that kind of relationship.
Speaker 4: But it definitely is to Ahasa's benefit to have the
Speaker 4: resources and the personnel from Toyota. So it'll be interesting
Speaker 4: to see how that relationship continues and Toyota operates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and certainly the correlation data with the
Speaker 2: wind tunnel when they get up that up and going,
Speaker 2: and that'll be interesting to see how they develop over
Speaker 2: the balance of season. I think the delivery looks terrific
Speaker 2: on the renders anyway, I just think it looks correct.
Speaker 4: I think everybody's livery is going to look great except
Speaker 4: for Ferraris.
Speaker 3: I don't like the blue. The blue is not I.
Speaker 4: Mean, this isn't just like Spoopo went on blue your Ferrari.
Speaker 4: I don't care that HP is pain. You're like, you know,
Speaker 4: side pods of money.
Speaker 3: What is the blue in your car? Get out of here?
Speaker 3: I can't. So they're all gonna look lovely until we
Speaker 3: get the Ferrari in it. That's gonna be it blue.
Speaker 4: Like you thought you thought having a pink car on
Speaker 4: the grids was got everybody all on a twist.
Speaker 3: Just wait the blue Ferrari.
Speaker 2: Big rebel. No here, look behind me. It's a Ferrari there, folks.
Speaker 2: It's tough being a Ferry fan. So anyway, keep your
Speaker 2: eyes on that. I don't want to overplay it, but
Speaker 2: I do think host is a good bell Weather and
Speaker 2: and what they do, and that's honestly, it's just a
Speaker 2: compliment to the team's no nonsense.
Speaker 3: I like the Yeah, I think they have some believable
Speaker 3: Williams energy. Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, they're not point, they're not James Vows. But Kamatsu
Speaker 4: has definitely got something on with that team. And of
Speaker 4: course they are building up for what was there and
Speaker 4: what Gunther did. But I think that he seems to
Speaker 4: really be turning this team into a turning a corner
Speaker 4: in a direction that isn't the positive.
Speaker 3: And he's not having to call Gene right.
Speaker 2: So right, and I think Jeane's got to be happy
Speaker 2: with the direction I U was doing. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, I was not. He's not the effrofescent character
Speaker 2: that James Valley, right, you know, I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2: But he's a good guy and they're moving the right direction.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of men and women working their tail
Speaker 2: off at that time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it's I think it's the and
Speaker 4: and and this should be watch this space. People who
Speaker 4: are going to be like as show you. I can't
Speaker 4: believe cadillacted you. Yeah, it takes a while, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And this is not has's first year, it's not their
Speaker 4: second year in the sport.
Speaker 3: It takes a bit to get your sea legs as
Speaker 3: a team.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so it's gonna don't expect Cadillact to just
Speaker 4: be bonkers great.
Speaker 3: Out of the gate.
Speaker 2: So it takes I would expect a TV in better
Speaker 2: shape than that, give me as long as their power
Speaker 2: unit's good. Yeah, you would think, because it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's sober right. Speaking of Cadillac, well, they had a
Speaker 2: little bit of a visibility milestone. They had some special
Speaker 2: testing Livery revealed. They revealed a special testing Livery heever,
Speaker 2: it's for shakedown phase, so that was good and a
Speaker 2: little full race Livery later that's supposed to come later.
Speaker 2: You know, they're kind of I do, I do like
Speaker 2: Cadillacs saying, you know, we're just not another throwaway entry.
Speaker 2: We are Formula one's eleventh team, major US brand, taking
Speaker 2: real steps into the ecosystem. They've got staffing and identity
Speaker 2: and public holms and infrastructure. This program is massive grace.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you were just.
Speaker 4: Like trying to like up your optics, like your Cadillac
Speaker 4: and you just want to sell more, kind of like
Speaker 4: this is a really dumb way to.
Speaker 3: Go about doing that.
Speaker 4: Like, I can't imagine anybody gets into Formula one just
Speaker 4: to sell more of their car Like this is I
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm trying to think of like a there's some.
Speaker 3: Sort of like other example. I got it.
Speaker 4: Just I can't imagine that somebody would be like, you
Speaker 4: know what we're gonna do. We're gonna go get in
Speaker 4: Formula one and we're not really going to be both
Speaker 4: feeded and we're just trying to sell some cars. We're
Speaker 4: just trying to get some pr This is not really
Speaker 4: how I would go about doing that. This seems like,
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of money if you really aren't
Speaker 4: invested into being in Formula one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: it's a massive, massive operation.
Speaker 3: They're trying to do a lot of work for some shine.
Speaker 2: I just it is. It is, you know. And the
Speaker 2: whole camouflage thing's kind of funny. Nobody wants to show
Speaker 2: any other era of riding pieces and all that stuff,
Speaker 2: especially this year with the move layer, so you're not
Speaker 2: going to see a lot there the livery moment is
Speaker 2: is good or whatever is it might be, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad they're putting it out and they should be.
Speaker 2: They should be making some marketing out of messaging and
Speaker 2: building brand. And that's all good, one hundred percent great,
Speaker 2: that's good. It doesn't equate to competitive readiness, obviously. And
Speaker 2: the harder question is is sort of that power unit.
Speaker 2: I know they're using Ferraris and that's one thing, but
Speaker 2: still power unit readiness, right Ferrari's this is a new
Speaker 2: engine for Ferrari, Right, So you think it's not just
Speaker 2: using you know, Ferrari and the development and the engine
Speaker 2: like constant for the last two or three years. This
Speaker 2: is a new engine for Ferrari too. So when you
Speaker 2: talk about power unit readiness, it's the same for Cadillac
Speaker 2: as it is Ferrari themselves.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And they went back, they went back to
Speaker 4: push rods or pull rods or like you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Like they did the whole like yeah,
Speaker 3: suspension as well, so I know anymore, so.
Speaker 2: For Cadillac, they've got to look at that power unit,
Speaker 2: how it mirrors to the chassis, the gearbox, all this
Speaker 2: sort of thing. You've got the correlation and the winds
Speaker 2: on with their arrow chassis, downforce, all of those elements
Speaker 2: that come around the chassis that are critical operational maturity,
Speaker 2: you know, in year one, that's their focus. Can they
Speaker 2: work well with the Ferrari power? And is there a
Speaker 2: win total correlation data on point? These are all important ones,
Speaker 2: you know, and you were talking about it. You know,
Speaker 2: what would success look like for Cadillac in year one?
Speaker 2: Points Q three is just not being a movable.
Speaker 4: Game finishing right, Like, yeah, not being a movable Hitkaine.
Speaker 4: That is the realistic goal for them to see progress,
Speaker 4: but that progress is not going to be what we
Speaker 4: can It's kind of like we were talking about testing, right,
Speaker 4: Like to us with our naked eye, testing means nothing,
Speaker 4: but to the engineer sitting on the pitwall, testing means everything. Right,
Speaker 4: So I think that's gonna be the same thing I
Speaker 4: think for us using our just are you know, naked
Speaker 4: layman's eyes, I'm not going to be able to see
Speaker 4: Catillac succeeding. But they have goals which they can see
Speaker 4: in their data and they should be hitting those marks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're going to be.
Speaker 4: They're going to be low enough that we can't we
Speaker 4: can't see it. They're not going to be winning races.
Speaker 4: They're not going to be getting lots of points that
Speaker 4: that would be craziness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I going to be discip pointed at
Speaker 2: the end of the year if they're last and the construction.
Speaker 3: No, no, that's probably going to end up.
Speaker 2: I just know.
Speaker 4: I mean really, I'm just here for the entertainment of
Speaker 4: Team Ruman's, you know, Like so I just want some
Speaker 4: good some good on box videos from Kaylak is what
Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's military and check. Oh you know that'd be
Speaker 2: good too. I'll tell you who won't be hanging around
Speaker 2: the grid. Well, that's Jack doing grace. You hate to
Speaker 2: see it, you know, you hate to see it.
Speaker 3: I do. I do hate to see it. Jack Don's
Speaker 3: my boy.
Speaker 2: I know, I know his dad. You're a big fan
Speaker 2: of his dad.
Speaker 3: I sure am.
Speaker 2: You know Mick, Mick is the dude.
Speaker 3: Mick is named after. Yeah, Mick Schumacher is named after
Speaker 3: Mick Doing.
Speaker 2: I mean right right, Mick is the dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack do its white Russians?
Speaker 2: I'm sure right right? Well, you know, man, that's just
Speaker 2: like like your opinion.
Speaker 3: Man, jelly shoes and big sweater the room together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Alpinea Jack doing mutually agreed to part ways
Speaker 2: in his contract after he already had been dropped for
Speaker 2: the race seat last year. It's another signal of Alpine's
Speaker 2: high turn, high pressure environment. Sorry for the dog folks,
Speaker 2: but when you have three Australian Shepherds, that's what you get.
Speaker 3: That's how they feel about Alpine, right.
Speaker 2: Exactly how they feel. Well, they're Australian Shepherds. They're pissed
Speaker 2: off about doing that's right, That is correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing no pun intended? Where's it? That was actually
Speaker 2: really good, grace, Thank you. I thought I had a
Speaker 2: too dumb for you, but I guess I don't. So anyway, Well,
Speaker 2: yeah I do, there you go there it is so anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so high pressure. Just how quickly the driver programs can
Speaker 2: turn from you know, next big thing to a total reset.
Speaker 2: And I get that for doing. I think the key
Speaker 2: story is what comes next for him? Is it a
Speaker 2: different series, a different team, a path back by a
Speaker 2: testing or throw driver roles? I don't know, And I
Speaker 2: think Alpine calling it quote mutual maybe diplomacy. Uh, I
Speaker 2: doubt it was that mutual. The under the underlying reality
Speaker 2: is f one contracts off the end because you know,
Speaker 2: the leverage is very one sided here.
Speaker 4: I just feel like like the contract person at Alpine
Speaker 4: like has Flavia on the phone. He's yelling, right, the
Speaker 4: person is pulling the phone out here because he's just okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna write down mutual. Let's put mutual on the press.
Speaker 3: Yes, mutual, that's that's mutual.
Speaker 4: I can't put that on the contract. I can't put
Speaker 4: that in the pressor right, like.
Speaker 2: Right, right, I know it's difficult. Yeah, I feel bad
Speaker 2: for Jack because I think to race that Come on, man,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it was. You know,
Speaker 2: when Flavio came in and somebody made the decision with
Speaker 2: Jack and he wouldn't happier. I don't know, I get it.
Speaker 2: But you put Franco in there, and I think Jack
Speaker 2: would have done every bit as good as Franco had.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sliding Franco, but.
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. Right, They're just.
Speaker 2: Saying it's kind of a bad deal for Jack. I
Speaker 2: felt like he he had that one crash where you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't get the DRS closed, and okay, but he's
Speaker 2: a rookie. You know, Gabby had crashes that happens.
Speaker 3: It just it just there's there.
Speaker 4: I guess what you're trying to say, right, Like, there's
Speaker 4: no reason to think that I don't know where they finished,
Speaker 4: but let's say they finished eighteenth. There's no way of
Speaker 4: saying that they would have finished second if they'd kept
Speaker 4: Jack doing or second, which they didn't with Franco Calpino,
Speaker 4: they probably would have been eighteenth with.
Speaker 3: Either of those drivers.
Speaker 2: Yep, right right.
Speaker 4: And so there was not like some big upside in
Speaker 4: bringing Calpento on, but they they had convinced us or
Speaker 4: they didn't convince anybody, but like that was their storyline
Speaker 4: if you will, like that We're going to put Franco
Speaker 4: in and he's just going to be amazing, and it's like,
Speaker 4: well he's not, and he wasn't.
Speaker 3: He was fine.
Speaker 4: He was exactly as expected, which is exactly what Jack
Speaker 4: doing would have been. I just don't I don't think
Speaker 4: it did either of them any service.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either. It's just I hate to seem
Speaker 2: drummed out of F one because he only got two races.
Speaker 2: That's a little frustrating. So I can't harsh reality. So
Speaker 2: what are we going to look forward to? What should
Speaker 2: you be looking while you look, look for whatever you
Speaker 2: want to look at. But I will say I think
Speaker 2: it's January twentieth. You got audio Berlin launch, Honda Power
Speaker 2: Unit Launch. That's kind of going to be a big
Speaker 2: content day I think going to be talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like that you wrote Honda Power Unit launch, like
Speaker 4: as if they get their own, Like they're just gonna
Speaker 4: the engine is going to come out, like you know,
Speaker 4: and there's gonna be some confetti cans, like look at
Speaker 4: the look at.
Speaker 3: The Honda engine. Yeah, he's right.
Speaker 2: Hi, we're Honda. We make up one engines like.
Speaker 3: These and this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually these are going to one of the cars
Speaker 2: on the grid. But this is the Honda engine. We
Speaker 2: just won all those world championships. This is a Honda engine,
Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, superior customer service, a class leading warranty.
Speaker 2: Huh have you ever thought of the benefits owning a
Speaker 2: really nice Honda engine? Right?
Speaker 3: And if you want to put.
Speaker 2: It in an Aston Martin at Lance, you can, that's
Speaker 2: up to you. We're not saying we would, but they
Speaker 2: bought them, so they are.
Speaker 3: We're just the engine.
Speaker 2: We're just the engine. Okay. However, it doesn't that Aston Martin. Well,
Speaker 2: that's down to the car and Adrian Newey. But the engine,
Speaker 2: oh it's there, wasn't us It is broke before we
Speaker 2: got there, so we got that. Then later in January
Speaker 2: we got first meaningful running windows in the Barcelona shakedown.
Speaker 2: So that's exciting. You know how that goes U So yes,
Speaker 2: we'll have that. And then to Grace's point, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be possibly will this be where the loophole chatter
Speaker 2: dies or explodes? I find that it typically e blows
Speaker 2: until it gets to the first race, you know, So
Speaker 2: they show up in Auscaria, they'll follow a protest and
Speaker 2: you know all that, and then the stewarts in Austro
Speaker 2: have to deal with it.
Speaker 4: I mean, and they've had so much lean time to
Speaker 4: be working on this to think of an answer, right,
Speaker 4: like they come up with there, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, what are they gonna do Take the pistons
Speaker 2: out and stuff like that and preheat oven to four
Speaker 2: hundred degrees and put it in there and say well
Speaker 2: that's hot. Yeah, yes, he still measures sixteen to one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Be interesting to see what happens. I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what time it is though, Grace,
Speaker 2: Oh heck, yes, it's time for albums cats. Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: it become lot that's right? What what happened in the socials, Grace?
Speaker 4: Well, so for my first bin of Albin Albons Cats News,
Speaker 4: I have the most al cats album's Cats News album
Speaker 4: and Lily got engaged.
Speaker 2: No way, I missed that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's good for this, you know, very very.
Speaker 2: You know great, I totally missed that. How did I
Speaker 2: miss that?
Speaker 3: It's terrible, especially that never on the social side missed it.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so yeah, so yeah, Alex and Lily are
Speaker 4: getting are engaged.
Speaker 3: No details, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Ricky, it can't be, Ricky.
Speaker 3: It cannot be. So there's another driver off the market
Speaker 3: for everybody.
Speaker 2: No, no, that's not good. That's right, poor Alex. Well,
Speaker 2: that's no, she's she's still and they make a great color.
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.
Speaker 3: So that was. That was lovely. That was And then
Speaker 3: I have a this is a question for you time.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, have you ever been to Augusta, Missouri?
Speaker 3: Yes, very good.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of west of Saint Louis So yes,
Speaker 4: I didn't. So I was in a particular video game
Speaker 4: I was playing. They referred to Augusta, Missouri as this
Speaker 4: like wine capital of the Midwest. I was like, that's
Speaker 4: not a hilarious thing, and then we looked up.
Speaker 3: It truly is. It is Missouri's rhineland of wine. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, look at that.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. Yes, I can tell you here, Grace.
Speaker 2: You asked if I've ever been there.
Speaker 3: All right, let's see.
Speaker 2: Uh up up up. It is about forty five met
Speaker 2: to pen on traffics, about forty five minutes to an
Speaker 2: hour from my house.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I'm like, I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, so it's really pretty out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we looked it up and it was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: that's near Saint Louis. And then you know, I know,
Speaker 4: you know, precisely we live. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's really.
Speaker 3: Close to it is.
Speaker 2: It's very close to me.
Speaker 4: So anyway, so I guess the Missouri next time I'm
Speaker 4: in the Saint Louis area. This seems like a lovely
Speaker 4: place to visit. I was just like, I just thought
Speaker 4: this was some like random spin the globe, put your
Speaker 4: finger on the place, and that's what we're gonna use
Speaker 4: in this video game. But it actually was you know,
Speaker 4: a very lovely wine location.
Speaker 2: It is all along the Missouri River right there in
Speaker 2: that particular like little area. You get Augusta if you
Speaker 2: come in Marthasville. So it's really kind of cool because
Speaker 2: the Missouri River in America is the longest river in America.
Speaker 2: And so in Marthasville, which is just west of Augusta,
Speaker 2: it's in the Missouri. If I'm talking to a global
Speaker 2: audience here, but the rivers in the yeah, okay, So
Speaker 2: there's a big river basin right that goes through there.
Speaker 2: So and then there's these cliffs and little known fact,
Speaker 2: I mean the the so my house is in like
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred acres of forest, but it's the beginning
Speaker 2: of the Ozark Mountains, and it's some this is some
Speaker 2: of the oldest rock formations in the world. And so
Speaker 2: this river has cut through this basin and they're they're
Speaker 2: up on top of the hill. You can see all
Speaker 2: the way down in this basin and all this farmland.
Speaker 2: So there's a winery called Lake Creek Winery there that's
Speaker 2: really nice. But you go a little bit further west
Speaker 2: Grace and kind of the well known wine area of
Speaker 2: Missouri's Herman Herman Missouri. Yeah, all right, so there you go.
Speaker 2: Next time you're in in Missouri, that's where we'll go.
Speaker 3: Who needs Sonoma and Napa? I could be you know,
Speaker 3: Missouri wine, you know west of Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: You know, it's okay. It's not like having an Italian
Speaker 2: Bordeaux or anything.
Speaker 3: I don't know, miss I mean if you go to Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: they talk.
Speaker 4: Abou as if it's as if it's the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 3: So it's fine. I mean I grew up. I grew
Speaker 3: up in Pennsylvania with maple syrup.
Speaker 4: You would have thought we were Vermont for the way
Speaker 4: we talked about our maple syrup.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: It was not until I moved elsewhere that was like,
Speaker 4: oh what other people other places make?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vermont. So it's fine.
Speaker 4: If Pennsylvania can be proud of their wine, Missouri can
Speaker 4: be proud of their wine.
Speaker 2: It's why not. I've actually had some Missouri on it's
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I just was like, I just thought this
Speaker 4: is some random thing that was made up and it
Speaker 4: was not.
Speaker 3: And here's this lovely location that we should all be visiting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely don't finger links Sonoma, Augusta, Missouri.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ever. I mean, Missouri is also I
Speaker 2: was born and raised here, so I love Missouri, always have.
Speaker 2: But the whole always are southern part down in New
Speaker 2: York and so it's just stunningly beautiful forest and woodlands
Speaker 2: and hills and it's there was our mountains. They're wonderful.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're looking for a place to go,
Speaker 2: there you go. It's lots of fun.
Speaker 3: And you can always stop buying Satan.
Speaker 2: Could stop being yeah, stop see the three Australian shepherds Man.
Speaker 2: They're so there you go. Cool. You want some no
Speaker 2: ship headlines.
Speaker 3: I'm ready always okay, all right, I only.
Speaker 2: Got two this week, but here they are. I think
Speaker 2: you like them. First one. You're gonna love this one.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this with Grace, You and I. You
Speaker 2: know how we love former F one driver stuff. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know, if we find a blurb in the
Speaker 2: press about Ralph Furman, we are on it like a
Speaker 2: druck Russell Terry. I mean, we just love Eddie Irvine says,
Speaker 2: what we're there, you.
Speaker 4: Know, anything that it would not have to it's gonna
Speaker 4: be great anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if if Mika Hawkins is going
Speaker 2: to read the phone book. I'm there right, all right,
Speaker 2: you're gonna love this one. Grace. Do you remember the
Speaker 2: pizza man? Oh yeah, that's right, Antonio Pizonia himself. The
Speaker 2: headline is watch moment X one x F one driver
Speaker 2: and Tonio Pizzoni. You have forty five lands flying kick
Speaker 2: on man, threatening son leading to assault arrest.
Speaker 3: Right? Was there a peque involved? I just wanted to.
Speaker 2: Is that no? I? Yeah, you know? Was there an
Speaker 2: Adrian suteel involved?
Speaker 3: I don't know something?
Speaker 2: No, nobody. Now, you know, your veterans will know this.
Speaker 2: If you're a uniform one and you don't know Adrian
Speaker 2: Sutil and the smash champagne flute and the glass and
Speaker 2: jabbing a Renault employee in the neck with broken glass.
Speaker 2: If you don't know that, you go google that one.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting story. Yeah, that's great, Lord, that's that's
Speaker 2: you know. That's why Grace and I still talk about
Speaker 2: suit and.
Speaker 4: Then and the fact that like him and Lewis were
Speaker 4: friends until that moment.
Speaker 2: Until that moment right when Loise to back him up.
Speaker 2: Louis is like they were, well, Louis was right there
Speaker 2: when it happened. Louis is like I didn't see anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was in the restaurant. Man, you're talking about I.
Speaker 2: Don't. I don't know who this guy is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a career, man, I can't get exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was one of the one of the stranger.
Speaker 2: Very strange incident. Yeah, you have to you have to
Speaker 2: go read about that one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so he kicked somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah so if that shows up in the next week
Speaker 2: or two on an influencer uh content, I think there
Speaker 2: is footage of pizza. Yes, I think that there is. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: I mean not a suit. Yes, but I think of
Speaker 2: this watch moment X one dar. I didn't even click
Speaker 2: on the link because I just it was there.
Speaker 3: Is you shouldn't. I just want to know if there's
Speaker 3: some you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: I just I'm always looking for a good p K kick.
Speaker 2: That's one thing. If a dude was threatened Antonio's son,
Speaker 2: get it, I get right as you do, you go up,
Speaker 2: shove the guy back, threaten him whatever, right, But a
Speaker 2: flying kick, that's taking it to another love. I didn't
Speaker 2: want to see that he's threatening your son. You don't
Speaker 2: go pushing back time get lost. You can you go medieval. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of envision that Hong Kong Fui thing, you know,
Speaker 2: all the way through the flying and flying through the air. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So there you go, I know. So that's the first one.
Speaker 2: Now the next one is this F one star. Such
Speaker 2: a throwaway story and deadline I love it. The slow
Speaker 2: news week F one star to inherit massive net worth
Speaker 2: five times, Lewis Hamilton and max Ver stomping combined. You're thinking, oh.
Speaker 3: My gosh, it seems like a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Is that like mix Shoemacker? Is it said? Who could
Speaker 2: it be? Is it like is it Nico Who? No,
Speaker 2: it's a Lancetrol.
Speaker 3: Oh it gets lords of Money.
Speaker 2: Yeah of course, yeah that's why don't you take the
Speaker 2: watch off my wrist and tell me what time it is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there you go. That's a that's a lovely one.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's loaded.
Speaker 4: That's like that's I would be so disappointed if I
Speaker 4: clicked on that headline. I mean, because that's like one
Speaker 4: of those like on the like homepage where it's like
Speaker 4: seven million news articles. You're like, what what what it's
Speaker 4: all screaming for your attention.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's his dad yeah, we knew that because.
Speaker 2: You're because I was trying to think as soon as
Speaker 2: I read that, oh who is that? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, Like I'm kind of thinking, like, wow, that
Speaker 3: seems like a lot decklestones.
Speaker 2: He didn't have you have one star and come on, yeah, yeah, grief,
Speaker 2: a man, that's bottom feeding.
Speaker 3: It's not fun.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not fun at all. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: what are you weather of genius?
Speaker 4: You tell me before gosh, what are you gonna do
Speaker 4: in an entirely different category?
Speaker 2: Well, he is, That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: That will always be my favorite lance, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he'll be able to top it this year.
Speaker 4: He does always have some great, great radios, you know,
Speaker 4: I know he does.
Speaker 3: His is just great.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping every race is changeable conditions because he does
Speaker 2: really well in conditions. He just does. I I gotta,
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta, you know, give credit work credits to.
Speaker 4: That's something I don't know, Adrian, how long we should
Speaker 4: like that's what they should like? We should parlay how
Speaker 4: long Adrian new he stays at that team and like
Speaker 4: what things happen in the meantime?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we give the what's the over under?
Speaker 2: Until Adrian just blows up with Lawrence's Oh dude, you
Speaker 2: got to get rid of your son. Dude, he's killing
Speaker 2: the head off.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's alms away from the pit wall. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 2: You got to get rid of him. He's killing me
Speaker 2: out here, you know that's right? Anyway? All right, Well
Speaker 2: that does it for this week. That's what we think
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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to see what my basement looks like?
Speaker 2: Why not everybody wants to see a new basement? A
Speaker 2: new camera angle from me because I bought a new monitor.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, you know so, I mean, why not?
Speaker 2: You know it's not asking a lot? If it was,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask it. You guys know me well enough.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of sheepish. I'm the world's worst. I'm terrible
Speaker 2: at shameless self promotion. I'm horrible at it. I feel
Speaker 2: embarrassed before I know it. I'm I'm you know, I
Speaker 2: feel embarrassed by it. So anyway, all right, Well, until
Speaker 2: next week we'll find more news. We'll find more news,
Speaker 2: I promise, And until next week we'll be back to
Speaker 2: do this all over again. Until that time, this is
Speaker 2: on AKA negative campers saying so long, grace.
Speaker 1: See you next week's man came over, Man, this came over.
Speaker 1: I prove it's all. I don't think. I don't really
Speaker 1: want to prove anything. I thought it as an amateur.
Speaker 1: I had no idea or no intention of actual becoming
Speaker 1: a world champion. It was I was curious to find
Speaker 1: out what it was lying to drive a Comcast to drive,
Speaker 1: so I get to drive ast type of common