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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another Geek First

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Review episode of this time talking about Dexter Original Sin.

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I'm one of your host the mad Dog Kurklym Patzer, and.

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Speaker 2: I am the compete with that Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Can I compete with that Taylor Field? Yes, ladies and gentlemen,

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if you've been with us for I guess this is

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only our second week doing Dexter because we compiled the

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first three episodes into it one single episode there. But yeah,

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if you're back again, thanks for coming, excited to give

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our thoughts on what's been cooking on this Dexter Original

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Sin show. Before we get to all of that, just

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a couple of plugs, and by just a couple, I

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mean quite a few, because it's been a freaking busy

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Lots of content in the month of December, whether it's

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to be getting these reviews and just episodes out for

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the listeners. But I don't know without further ado, there's

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probably some other things to say in there, but I

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just want to talk some dexter. Taylor Field, are you

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ready to jump in jump in the blood? All right?

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What do you think about episode four? Fender Bender?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that's the title, fender Bender. Yeah, Oh,

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I think I liked it a lot more than maybe

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some of our other fellow Geekers members. But I'm not

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gonna point fingers or name names breaking the fourth wall.

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Speaker 1: It was Travis Snell. Okay, yes, I'm gonna I wanna

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name names here. He was. He was popping off in

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our group chat. He had some grievances which we will

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Speaker 2: We'll address them. Yeah, I had a lot of fun

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with this episode. I thought it was it was great,

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and it just it concluded on just that classic Dexter

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kind of cliffhanger that's been making me want more, and

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I think that you really get to see our characters

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make some interesting decisions here. You got Dexter kind of

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going full steam ahead, really trying to take advantage.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like he's he's manipulating hair hair Harry, right,

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not Harrison.

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Speaker 2: I always get those two.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he is manipulating Harry into certain things. Well,

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he's presenting and this isn't a spoiler. He's presenting certain

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reliable well maybe not reliable, that's up for debate. He's

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presenting information to Harry, and I feel like that it's

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still him manipulating certain things. And the way he talks

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to Harry is him trying to manipulate the situation a

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little bit, you know, my dark Passenger, all that kind

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of stuff. And I like that because I feel like

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we get to see a lot of that later on,

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with how he tries to justify his actions with certain things,

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and the way that this episode was going, I really

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did think that, Okay, there's gonna be a big mistake

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that happens here, and what mistakes are made it goes

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the way that I was not expecting, and I'm actually

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I'm I'm I'm happy with it. I thought it was really,

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really quite something. And again we're getting more backstory involved

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with these characters too, And of course.

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Speaker 2: Deb just making very bad decisions, and it's hard for

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same Deb that becomes a cop, a really really good

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cop in the actual show, because this Deb is just

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the actress is fantastic. I think she's doing an amazing

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jobs as this character, and this character is just really

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pissing me off and bothering me hence my nickname, which

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it's such a brutal scene that she has and she's

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just she's a really good actress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. Yeah, No, I am continuing to love

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this show. I think it's absolutely fantastic. Once the show

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is all said and done, you know, I don't want

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to over commit to things. Right now. We got we

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got Daredevil retros in the works right now we're watching.

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There's there's plenty of other retros coming up, and of

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course our schedules already bunmed. Up, But man, I want

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to jump back into Dexter after watching this show, Like

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it's totally capturing the same magic and elements of what

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of the show. So yeah, I think they're doing a

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fantast job at just capsuling that but still making it

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feel like it's a different era in Dexter's journey. It

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doesn't just feel like they're remaking season one or anything like.

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mainly because we have different characters and different periods of

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their lives. Someone like Harry, like we didn't really get

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them to the extent of where we have him here. Obviously,

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deb is in a completely different area of her life

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at this point in time versus the original show. So

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I'm continuing to like our cast and crew. I think

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it's just I just I just kind of see Christian

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past that a little bit more, and I think it's

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just due to how good. His his like on screen

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chemistry is whether it's it's him and the other police

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officers or him and Dexter, or even like the few

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scenes that we have between him and Deb. I see

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where you're coming from with Deb. I feel like I

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still really like this version for for where we are

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think he's just he's so great, like all of his

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mannerisms of being like i'll say, like the daytime Dexter,

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like when he's just like the quirky, nerdy guy working

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the forensics. I think it's like pretty dead on to

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Michael Chall's version. So huge credit there of just like

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little things that he does with his shoulders or like

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like I don't know, just just little smirks here and

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there that he does, like when he's playing you know,

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the everyday Dexter, which is literally like a role that

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he plays because that isn't his his like what he

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actually is on this on the underneath, like he has

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this dark passenger with him but I think he's just

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doing such a good job of portraying that version of

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the role. And yeah, I think this episode had a

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wild ending and it was it was an ending that

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you really want for these weekly episode reviews. You want

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the people feasting for more. And yeah, no, I I

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might be like a couple of little nitpicks here and there,

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but overall, I still think this was was really really

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solid and yeah, no, it's it's a good time, it's funny.

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I guess. Minor spoiler, there's a character that's introduced in here.

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Mad Dog is his name, which is you know my nickname?

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that he has in The Matrix. It seems like like Cipher.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's right, that's where he was from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, Joe Pantoliano, that's the actor's name. He plays

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Cipher in The Matrix. Of course, you know the great

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betrayal that he does in that movie. I guess supports

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for the Matrix nineteen ninety nine movie. I apologize, but

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I just couldn't get that character out of my mind.

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I'm like, man, this is just like Cipher if he

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like escaped to the real world and he's just doing

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like his own side gig now, So that was kind

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of funny for me to get through. But No, I

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liked everything that was going on here. I think it's

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really great. I'm really digging this show, and yeah, no

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better if you watch the original show first. Obviously, you know,

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the episode one has a big spoiler of like what

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happens for the continuation show, but yeah, for many other reasons,

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like beyond that, I still think it's really good to

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jump into this, even just like things that they're mentioning

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with the mom and obviously that big eventuality that's gonna

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happen with her, because we're getting like flashbacks with her

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and we're just getting closer to that event and they're

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like mentioning names that she's getting closer to, and I'm like,

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oh my god, this is so sad, especially now that

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we're like seeing more of the character. It's just an

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impending doom that's coming. So uh, yeah, no, I'm digging

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there's a few there's a few things, a few characters

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that we see here that's in pending doom for sure,

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and it's only because we know where things go on

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the story, right.

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and then when we come back, we'll unravel the story.

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So we'll go back. All right, we are back, Taylor Field,

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where do you want to You want to start with

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deb because you're yeah, you were mentioning you're not loving

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some of her life decisions here, which definitely questionable. I

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think maybe I'll just start my opening statement on the

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defense of Deborah Morgan. Here, I she's doing some three things,

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especially for being I feel like I keep forgetting and

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like thinking that she is older than she is. But

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here she she reaffirms that you know, she is in

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high school, like she is a student. So this is

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just I don't know, maybe I just wasn't adventurous as

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a high schooler. Put some of the things that she's

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doing here are extremely questionable. However, some and like the

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things that she's doing are obviously very different than what

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happens in the original show, because by that point, she's

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already a cop, so obviously she's she's being more by

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the book and not just being off the rails going

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to these parties meeting guys and like doing coke and

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whatnot and just partying all the time. But I think

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that like a big character trait of what Deborah Morgan

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has throughout the whole events of the original Dexter Show

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is being someone that was not like the focal point

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of like like her parents, like obviously they don't have

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their mom, and then even in that show, they in

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the original show, like she's still stressed how Harry always

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was just like had a way better relationship with Dexter,

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so she was always envious of that, And I think

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that's clearly being shown here, like she's mentioning it pretty

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much every other episode, how they're just like obsessed with

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each other because they're both just in their little cop

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realm and they really don't have any time for her,

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the cheer squad, the volleyball squad, and there's just a

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lot of big things happening in her life, and she's

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just not getting that attention that she kind of should

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member or anything like that, Right, So then she's kind

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of forced to get those just affirmations from like the

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outside realm, right, whether it's her going to the clubs

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and just getting hit on by guys or have guys

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like buy or drinks or whatnot. Like that's just how

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she's kind of seeking that out. And I think that's

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pretty I think that's like it's not like that's happening

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throughout the whole show of Dexter, like the original Dexter,

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but I still think, especially later on, like she it

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seems like she does struggle with that just self confidence

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because she never really has reaffirmations. I hope I'm using

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that word rate a couple of different ways now, but

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I just think that like what I'm seeing here as

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an origin for the character, it like it fits for

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for where deb is later on in the original Dexter show.

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And I definitely think that even like looking at this character,

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if Harry dies, you know, and like she she loses

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that father figure and she kind of just has to

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grow up really fast. I think that, yeah, I can

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easily see her grow up to be this like badass

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cop that's by the book and doing everything as she

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should be. So yeah, that's kind of my defense for

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this version. But I see where you are coming from.

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I think it really wouldn't have expected her to be

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part of me. Got the little hiccups now, but this

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off the rails as an origin character, especially her being

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in high school. But she doesn't have the best home life.

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There's definitely worse home life out there, but she's just

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kind of ignored by Harry, and obviously Dexter's doing his

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own thing. So yeah, she's.

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Speaker 2: Buying drugs from a blockbuster guy and going to the

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clubs and drinking boxers like alcohol and stuff like that,

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just making bad decisions. And that's where it's just it's

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so funny to think that this is the character it

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becomes like a really really good cop and like Harry's

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Harry's legacy. But yeah, I just think though that her

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being upset about not being able to have the truck

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because her brother and her dad are doing their own

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kind of meeting or whatnot, and just the whole line

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of where the dad's like, I'm sorry you couldn't take

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the truck, but like there was a dead kid hanging

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in downtown or whatever, and then she's just.

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Speaker 3: Like, well, fuck, how I can't compete with a dead kid.

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Like it's just like Jesus this.

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Speaker 2: The girl's not had a great upbring, and I absolutely

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blame Harry for that, but it's just a nasty dynamic

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and it's just, oh, it's like, cauld she imagines your

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daughter calls you when the phone leaves a voicemail, which

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is like I'm staying at so and so, and you

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just hear a guy laughing in the background. It's like,

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oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it's also like Harry doesn't fucking care, right, He's like, well,

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that's a bad lie. Then he like cracks open his

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beer and watch the game or whatever. So it's like

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man like, like, clearly he has things in his own

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life and he has the whole dexter dynamic, but like

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he's very much is like as long as she's doing

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stuff and she's kind of out of my way, it's

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it's it's worked out, and obviously it's a pretty unhealthy

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dynamic to have her father, especially for like your daughter

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kind of needs you, you know, like this is kind

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of a big period of her life, and like multiple

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times she's like crying out for some help and support there.

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And like even even like that line where you said

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I can't compete with a dead kid, Like I feel

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like it's it's it's almost like brute, Like it's just

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a lot of emotions and like it's so raw that

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like Harry would just be upset with how that was going,

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but like she didn't fucking know this right, like like

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like it says if he just brought that up and

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threw it in her face. So like I definitely don't

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blame her at all in those instances. So yeah, I

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think I'm just feeling bad for the character because she

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is doing these things. But I just feel like there's

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a lot of pieces at play, Like like when she

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comes home and like, yeah, so won't be home for dinner.

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Here's some money, and she just calls this this hot

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Italian guy or whatever the hell he is. I'm like, man,

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like this is so like yeah, like upsetting, but also

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like not unbelievable for you know, like an eighteen year

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old girl or however old she is. Yeah, just anyways,

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I don't blame her, but let's here we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I don't blame her either because

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to me, yeah, it's just it's bad upbringing and it's

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all fucked up. And she's got her like she's got

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her one good friend. But even though she became captain

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of the volleyball team, she's got like her friends, I

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guess not really your friends. Her squad mates just ditch

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her and you got that one.

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Speaker 1: Like this was such like an unhealthy relationship to with

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the team where I feel like the whole team dynamic

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is them just trying to like win them over, Like well,

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I'm gonna drive in to the beach, and then the

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second that like this other girl shows up, like the

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whole team just leaves them, and like I gotta imagine

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like my own friend group be like oh yeah, we'll

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just squeeze in or like we'll we'll divvy up and

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get a right, it's like see you later, a loser,

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like find your own way to the beach. Its just

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it seems so cheesebally in my mind, and yeah, I

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don't love the uh that's kind of like her threat

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like like right now, you know, it's just trying to

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impress her friends and being being popular, and I don't

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know like what happens like is entertaining. But for the

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plot wise, I'm definitely more invested in stuff that's going

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on between Harry and Dexter.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. I guess speaking with Harry and Dexter

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here you get them kind of revisiting, maybe more so

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Harry revisiting than Dexter, although you can see it's still

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evident in Dexter and we know his backstory, but it's

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not like he's just he doesn't understand why because he

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sees the dead kid, he's not feeling good about it.

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He's feeling a little bit weak at the knees. And Harry,

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through his flashbacks, we see him sleeping with Dexter's mom

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and he's going to the archives section of the Miami

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ped is like, hey, can you make sure that Dexter

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can't like look up anything and figure out where he

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was found and the shipping container all that kind of stuff.

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So he's keeping it, he's keeping it pretty uh tightly

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wound up. So no one else can really figure this out,

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but you see it, it triggers for Dexter, and they have

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kind of like a brief heart to heart about it,

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and the Dexter kind of bonds with that other cop.

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I can't remember his name, but the other cop kind

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of kind of yah boosts up his morale a little bit,

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like going, you know, you can do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No. I really like that that character sure that

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Dexter was interacting with, And I feel like there's moments

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like this where you just like forget where Dexter is

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just like an actual serial killer. You know, he is

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just a straight up murderer, because even when he's interacting

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with like the Captain's kid, when he's playing the game

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boy and he's just kind of like bonding with him

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and gives him a twix, and he just seems like

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such a genuinely nice guy. Like I guess that it's

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a good thing that he's able to channel these things,

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because he would just be more of a monster. But

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at the end of the day, he still is murdering people.

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So I and like, again, that's just where I like,

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I credit like the actor of just being able to

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like put on that like persona of what the Dexter,

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you know, day to day Dexter is, and that's something

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that Michael C. Hall was so good at doing, just

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the balance there and then later on when he goes

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like full monster mode and you just feel like he

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is this menacing killer. So just the differences there, I

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the star contrast. I guess it's just it's really felt

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in those moments. But now I really like all of

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the all the moments that Dexter was having with those

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with those side characters, and even just like the weight

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that he felt because of like finding the dead kid

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and just that really stuck with him the whole time.

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Even though he is used to seeing dead bodies, you know,

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he is a killer, Like, he still just gets so

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caught off by stuff like that. And I think that's

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another thing that what this show is. Like, something that

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I'm really appreciated about the show is just getting those

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scenes between Harry and Dexter, because like he is alive here,

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so we can like see like they both come back

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from work and they're just kind of talking about stuff.

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So that's just something which is a fresh dynamic that

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we don't really get. Obviously, he speaks to Harry when

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he's when he's dead, but that's just kind of ghost

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for him, so it's much different in the sense of

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actually having them there. So I just, yeah, I like

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those moments and Dexter being the good guy Dexter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and him being the good guy. I mean, he

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was trying to find another victim here, and I feel

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like he's really just picking up because he hasn't killed anyone,

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I mean, until he kills that nurse that was his

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first and then you get this other guy that he kills,

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and now he's got his target on the third person,

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mad Dog, And that's why I feel like he's kind

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of manipulating Harry because he drops the evidence in front

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of him and he's like, oh, this guy like da

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da da da, Like oh, let me use what you

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taught me, and he's thrown in like, oh this guy

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could he's gonna kill a witness, he's gonna you know,

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all these other people he's gonna hurt so forth. So

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I feel like he's really laying it on and trying

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to manipulate his dad, like you know, a kid would

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like pointing out all the reasons why he wants to

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get an Xbox or he deserves an Xbox or whatever.

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It's just needs to have it. And so with Dexter

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here getting his wish and getting the green light to

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go and kill him, yeah, he could have been a

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lot more careful. And he's not using the drugs yet either,

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he's still just like knocking out. But yeah, it's funny

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how things kind of go real sideways. It works out

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for him, but it's.

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Speaker 1: I don't know though, It's it's not like it's just

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a clean, okay, perfect that's dealt with, Like just talking

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about the ending here, like when he does escape, runs out,

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gets hit by the car, and best case scenario, he dies, right,

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so he can't really speak about anything that just happened,

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but liked but like cops are gonna go to his house, right,

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and there's obviously so much evidence of like a full

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on rough housing things going on. There's probably bruises on

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his actual body. Why is he naked? Like there's a

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lot of questions out here that is gonna have breadcrumbs

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And yeah, I just think it was a really shocking

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way to end the episode because now it's like, what's

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dex are gonna do? Does he have to run back

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and like clean up the whole house of like any

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evidence that he was even there. Probably he smashed up

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a bunch of guitars. He don't think he was really

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wearing gloves in any of those moments. Maybe he was,

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maybe I missed it, But there's just a lot of like,

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holy fuck, pick up the pieces here, like like how

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can we roll with the punches and just adapt to

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to to what just happened. So I love the way

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that the episode ended, honestly, especially that there was such

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a big emphasis on this guy isn't a regular guy,

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Like he is a hit man. He is a professional.

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Like you can't just you can't just just bag him

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in his house. You know, he kind of did get

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that the upper hand of him, but I knew as

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soon as he undid his feet, the old eyeballs, you know,

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cipher awoke and just started popping off. And Yeah, I

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just like the I like the the danger I think

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that is at play when Dexter's try to take out people,

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because I emphasized it last week when we were talking

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about it, But like he's not a professional at this

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point in time. You know, he doesn't know the exact

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dosage or any dosage to give people to like actually

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make it a clean takeout. So yeah, I like how

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messy it is.

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Speaker 2: And that's where I honestly thought that, Okay, this is

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Dexter making a mistake, that he's done the research, he's

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in the homework, but this guy is not a killer,

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because I mean, he was convincing to me he was

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into foreclosures. But when Dexter, yeah, under the feet and

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this guy like wraps his legs around Dexter's head and

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like flips, and I was like, Okay, no, this guy's

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definitely guilty. He's a contract killer because he's got all

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the dance moves here.

472
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was clean. That was like some black

473
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,119
belt Brazilian jiu jitsu.

474
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm glad that that's the case and that

475
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,279
they went the route that they did and it wasn't

476
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,319
just him making a mistake and killing the wrong person,

477
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,480
because I feel like they were rushing a little bit

478
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,680
and he couldn't really get the right information aside from

479
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:39,119
just this witness testimony person that was like almost fully

480
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,359
shredded in the shredder. So yeah, like I think that

481
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,440
they they did a good job.

482
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like that moment, for me, it's like this

483
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,480
is pretty fucking convenient. You know, it's like a half

484
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:51,720
shredded piece of thing that he could just like totally

485
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,359
piece it together. There's a scripture on the back that

486
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,319
like details more of what's happening there, and this is

487
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,839
something like it's happened a couple times already. I had

488
00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:02,640
some beef with the whole nurse killing, and now that

489
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,680
I'm watching, I'm like, maybe this was just always a

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720
thing in Dexter, Like I just haven't watched the show

491
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,200
in a while, or there is just a lot of

492
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,000
lucky moments that happen, because yeah, I really thought it

493
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:14,839
was going to be set up actually that this wasn't

494
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,680
actually a killer and it was a complete thing where

495
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,799
like Dexter thinks that he has him dead to rights,

496
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,680
he thinks he has his evidence, and then he rushed it,

497
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,039
and then and then he didn't actually and something bad

498
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:27,240
happens to like an innocent person, and then that's like

499
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,119
a big thing that Harry can throw in his face

500
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,319
to like really emphasize that, like you have to be

501
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,400
one hundred percent sure. I really thought it was gonna

502
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,119
be going that way because it just seemed way too

503
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,519
fast and way too lucky that he like everything was

504
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,480
falling in place until I see the naked Brazilian jiu jitsu.

505
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,599
You know, when he's doing he's popping the moves on him, like,

506
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,039
oh my god, Okay, No, he is just the Navy

507
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:51,039
seal like that that we thought he was the whole time.

508
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,400
So I guess maybe a little bit of a con there,

509
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,039
because I would have wanted more juice there on on

510
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,319
just the emphasis of because because that's a big thing

511
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,039
in the code, right, like you have to make sure

512
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:09,440
that they actually are completely guilty. So I just thought

513
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,519
that maybe in the show we'd be seeing a moment

514
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,759
where he didn't do that and it fucked everything up.

515
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,759
So then that's what really solidifies the importance of that,

516
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,160
but it doesn't really seem like that's what we're getting here.

517
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's a reoccurring thing because we see

518
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:25,720
that in the first first season, I mean all the

519
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,559
seasons really, but yeah, him just being oh, where he's

520
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,640
got to find evidence to confirm that this is someone

521
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,799
he has to kill or someone he has permission to kill.

522
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,119
I guess ask for the code, and I think a

523
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,519
lot of times in the actual like the main Dexter show,

524
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:42,599
he finds maybe their trophies is and that's his confirmation.

525
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480
He finds other little things they I.

526
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,519
Speaker 1: Just can't remember if it's as like easy, because like

527
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,680
we're talking about the nurse one, how she just fucking

528
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,880
has like the kill list like in her work drawer,

529
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
like really, and Dexter like just like saw her like

530
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,519
two minutes ago, and he's already found like it's just

531
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,279
really like that's how easy it is. And now that

532
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:01,960
it's happened a couple times already in this show, it

533
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,160
makes me think of like, wow, maybe it just wasn't

534
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:11,559
that clean in the original show. But nonetheless, nonethless, we

535
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,680
don't go now where. Now, maybe we'll take a quick

536
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720
little ad break here while we gather our thoughts, and

537
00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:23,400
then we'll be right back. All right, we are back.

538
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:30,160
Have we gathered our thoughts? Probably not? I had something

539
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480
written down here. Oh, it was cool to just see

540
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Dexter on this boat here. I had to look up

541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,920
like his original boat because I in my mind I

542
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,680
thought it was like the exact same design to what

543
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,839
don't fret that's that was the name of this ship,

544
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,839
whereas Dexter Morgan's was a slice of life, I believe,

545
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,400
And they have different models for sure, But I just

546
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,839
like the moments when he's like, oh, maybe I'll have

547
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,759
to get one of these myself one day. And some

548
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:57,680
people might think that's cheesy, just a little bit of

549
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,400
a nod to the future of what Dexter is, but

550
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680
it's just I don't know. I like the whole setup

551
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,759
and location of what it was. I like how he

552
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,319
thought he was going to have him alone, and then

553
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,319
of course he's just it's like a multiple chartered plane.

554
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,519
And again, like shout out to the actor that he

555
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:14,279
is playing mad Dog. I think he's got a good

556
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,160
level of charisma and sleaziness to him, where like you

557
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,119
are suspect to him even though he's putting this big

558
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,160
smile on and feeling friendly. So I think he's a

559
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,279
good I think it was a good casting choice for

560
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,039
the role.

561
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I agree, he was. Yeah, he was shady

562
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,279
when the questions weren't were kind of like piling up

563
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,039
and getting a little bit too invasive. Just felt super

564
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:41,640
super shady and redirecting it. Yeah. I enjoyed that whole

565
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,200
sequence too, of the charters, kind of like piling up.

566
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,359
It's not a private charter or anything like that. And yeah,

567
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,839
I just feel like these are all little things that

568
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,359
kind of come to Dexter as ways to improve because

569
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,079
this is a guy who's running a boat and dexters like,

570
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:58,279
you know, I want a boat, and so that's a

571
00:28:58,319 --> 00:28:59,839
little foreshotow like he wants to get a boat and

572
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:04,000
that's how he does his body dumpings. And then I

573
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,079
guess you have him see well he already knows about

574
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,079
collecting trophies, but I'm assuming him using medications like drug.

575
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:14,400
The person is inspired from the nurse at the start,

576
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,519
but I mean it doesn't have to be. That's just

577
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:19,039
kind of like my my head canon.

578
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:28,079
Speaker 1: N Yeah, good head canon. So we're mentioning devil already. Uh,

579
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:31,880
she's meeting up with this interesting man who you know

580
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680
works for his father. Seems like it's just a crime

581
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,000
syndicate thing I don't know, could be tied to the

582
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,440
main Extrata guy. I guess that that's kind of where

583
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,720
my thoughts are going. That's that's the chap who's like

584
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:49,119
the head of Oh no, Estrata am I mixing up

585
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:50,799
my people right now? Is a strata the one from

586
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:55,279
the flashbox that MM because Astrata is the one that

587
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,039
like chops up the mom, right.

588
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes, there guys to blame for that.

589
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was I was gonna just start going

590
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,599
off on I feel like this character that Deb is

591
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,759
interacting with is extremely suss and is potentially linked to

592
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,440
like the mob stuff that's happening with this child, like

593
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,000
the deceased boy at the start of this episode. How

594
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,079
that they keep saying it's cartel related, I feel like

595
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:26,880
this character is also cartel related, And in my mind,

596
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,400
I just don't love the idea of like our main

597
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,119
threat for like just the police force is now getting

598
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,279
intertwined with like Deb, who's kind of off on our

599
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,359
own thing. I guess it's a way to like combine

600
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,839
the stories, but it just seems I don't know, it

601
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,200
seems like we're adding too much significance on or maybe

602
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,279
like putting an emphasis on trying to make a lot

603
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:51,160
of importance on like making all the characters fit together.

604
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,039
I don't think you really have to do that in

605
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,480
this show, even though you know, we have the cast

606
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,920
on screen, like we have the characters to write around with.

607
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960
But I just I don't want them to like overdo

608
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,559
it in the sense of trying to do too much,

609
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,559
because this is still a prety cool show, right, Like,

610
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,240
we still are going to be doing gross and development

611
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:15,759
with these characters later on, So yeah, maybe I just

612
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:18,680
I just don't want them to overcomplicate it, if if

613
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,319
that makes any sense at all, But yeah, that makes sense.

614
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200
What do you think about this, this handsome man with

615
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,240
a nice car and nice blue car. You know, he's

616
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400
got the he's got the car phone. It's a big

617
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,519
deal back in the day. The carphone.

618
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the five disc CD player.

619
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

620
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what his deal is. I I

621
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,079
get kind of like the that preemptive kind of flashbacks

622
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,720
to the Brian being the ice.

623
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Truck Killer and this is just Brian again talking with

624
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:48,640
the Dexter.

625
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean he would be around that age range.

626
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,319
Speaker 1: But no, I he's been after this whole time. It's

627
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,799
not until he's Ice truck Killer. Really.

628
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:03,079
Speaker 2: I think that him being very private makes you think, Okay,

629
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,640
it's definitely not anything good. He's redirecting when deb is

630
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,880
asking and he's changing the topic of conversation. Yeah yeah,

631
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,720
but he's got a lot of money, so it's gonna

632
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,880
be something illegal, that's for sure. Maybe he wants Deb

633
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,559
in on it. I don't know why, but hopefully she's

634
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:19,279
she's in a position where she's trying to do things

635
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,319
to spite her dad, and hopefully this guy doesn't. He

636
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,559
isn't able to capitalize and take advantage of that, but

637
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,200
I feel like he is. I just need a little

638
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,119
bit more context and just need to know exactly where

639
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,279
he stands, because all I have so far is him

640
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,359
just being a bit of a flirt. That's it.

641
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, what do we got else else wise? I

642
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,200
guess the flashback stuff we get a little bit more

643
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,160
of just building upon like a fatherly blonde, fatherly blonde

644
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:04,759
fatherly bond between Harry and i'll say Dexter and Brian

645
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,599
pretty much just Dexter. Brian's pretty fucking weirdo. You know,

646
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,519
he opens the door and he's got like twenty seven

647
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:15,079
fucking lizard tales just lined up in a row. You know.

648
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:19,839
We were mentioning last week how the decision to have

649
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,359
Harry of like lost a son in the past, like

650
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920
that was a new decision for this show that wasn't

651
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,160
something in the original. I feel like, as we're getting

652
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,240
more of these flashbacks, I actually liked the decision. As

653
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,599
fucked up as it is, I think it just adds

654
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
a lot more of a an emphasis on like why

655
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,200
he would be maybe like seeking out or not necessarily

656
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,160
seeking out, but just feel like he has a duty

657
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,599
to be a fatherly figure to these to the keep

658
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,519
saying these kids, but just Dexter because of course, like

659
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,680
the boy that he lost and how that was his fault, right,

660
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,920
Like he just wasn't paying attention and that's what happened.

661
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,640
And I think that weight is something that would weigh

662
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,960
on a character for a very long time, if not

663
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,039
their whole lives. And just how protective he is over Dexter.

664
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,800
I think if you think about that being in the

665
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,400
back of his mind or just the history there, I

666
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,079
think it just makes more sense and just adds to

667
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:23,119
the just the concreteness of their don't you think it's

668
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:27,719
a word of the concreteness you know what I'm going for? Yeah, yeah,

669
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,840
just the strength of of that bond and why he

670
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,920
would want to really be that role for Dexter. So

671
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,320
I as the show goes on, I I like the

672
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840
decision to switch it up for the for the new canon.

673
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:51,239
M oh No, I had something else too. It's nice

674
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,920
to see more Dexter just doing his little investigative thing.

675
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,320
That's always something from the original show that I admired

676
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,679
when he's doing his like splatter recreations and just explaining.

677
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,239
You know, I always love a good cop show in

678
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,199
that sense. Yeah, he's got his melons. You have fucking

679
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,480
Masuka doing his little giggly laugh, you know, like, well,

680
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960
I don't remember what he says, some of it like

681
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,679
grabbing her melons and he does this stupid little laugh again,

682
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,559
you know, I like, I like the amount of Masuka

683
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,840
that we're getting in this show. It's not overdone. He's

684
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,119
he comes in there and he has a memorable laugh,

685
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,599
and that's kind of it. Oh that was the other

686
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,679
thing I was gonna mention, you know, like we had

687
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,159
a kidnapped Judge's son who's like ten years old or something.

688
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,119
Through this whole show. He got his fingers chopped off

689
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,719
and started this episode, he's just he's dead now. He's

690
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,400
hanging off of Like anytime like a child is murdered

691
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,639
on on like any type of media is just like

692
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:50,920
just wrenching it. Obviously it's a very horrible thing. But

693
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,280
I think I was just extremely surprised as well, Like

694
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,360
I did not think at all this character would have

695
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,599
been killed. But how do you react to that? Because

696
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,760
for me, I was very shocked at first. I thought

697
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,800
it was like like a dummy or something like that.

698
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Just in denial, I guess, I'm like, there's no way

699
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,559
that's actually what they did. But yeah, the cartails that

700
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:10,480
fucked up. They took an ice pick to the back

701
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,880
of his neck and just fucking murdered him. So yeah,

702
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,159
got wrenching. But how did that hit for you?

703
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I was definitely surprised. You have the cartel

704
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,639
not having any demands of any kind anything like that,

705
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,840
So it's the motives are a little bit unclear, and

706
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,760
just the precursor scenes leading up to this, I feel

707
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,679
like it wasn't we didn't get enough kind of information

708
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,079
to understand what we're dealing with. And I'm just assuming

709
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,760
that they're just playing that off because of where we're heading,

710
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,679
and by the end of the season it'll all make sense.

711
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,360
I don't know, but I just I do think it's Yeah,

712
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,920
I think it's kind of odd.

713
00:36:52,440 --> 00:37:01,039
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Uh. I think if you don't have anything

714
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,199
else to add, we can just skittle scattle on out

715
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:04,480
of here.

716
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,639
Speaker 2: Let's let's skittle, let's scattle.

717
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,639
Speaker 1: You want to skit on scattle, all right, please, we'll

718
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:14,440
be skilling on to UH to our next adventure and

719
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,119
that's where we'll be okay, So thanks for joining us.

720
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,679
Until next time you know, we'll be here, But goodbye,

721
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:26,119
bye bye