Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another Geek First
Review episode of this time talking about Dexter Original Sin.
I'm one of your host the mad Dog Kurklym Patzer, and.
Speaker 2: I am the compete with that Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Can I compete with that Taylor Field? Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
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just want to talk some dexter. Taylor Field, are you
ready to jump in jump in the blood? All right?
What do you think about episode four? Fender Bender?
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's the title, fender Bender. Yeah, Oh,
I think I liked it a lot more than maybe
some of our other fellow Geekers members. But I'm not
gonna point fingers or name names breaking the fourth wall.
Speaker 1: It was Travis Snell. Okay, yes, I'm gonna I wanna
name names here. He was. He was popping off in
our group chat. He had some grievances which we will
bring up.
Speaker 2: We'll address them. Yeah, I had a lot of fun
with this episode. I thought it was it was great,
and it just it concluded on just that classic Dexter
kind of cliffhanger that's been making me want more, and
I think that you really get to see our characters
make some interesting decisions here. You got Dexter kind of
going full steam ahead, really trying to take advantage.
Speaker 3: And I feel like he's he's manipulating hair hair Harry, right,
not Harrison.
Speaker 2: I always get those two.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: I feel like he is manipulating Harry into certain things. Well,
he's presenting and this isn't a spoiler. He's presenting certain
reliable well maybe not reliable, that's up for debate. He's
presenting information to Harry, and I feel like that it's
still him manipulating certain things. And the way he talks
to Harry is him trying to manipulate the situation a
little bit, you know, my dark Passenger, all that kind
of stuff. And I like that because I feel like
we get to see a lot of that later on,
with how he tries to justify his actions with certain things,
and the way that this episode was going, I really
did think that, Okay, there's gonna be a big mistake
that happens here, and what mistakes are made it goes
the way that I was not expecting, and I'm actually
I'm I'm I'm happy with it. I thought it was really,
really quite something. And again we're getting more backstory involved
with these characters too, And of course.
Speaker 2: Deb just making very bad decisions, and it's hard for
me to kind of affiliate that this deb is the
same Deb that becomes a cop, a really really good
cop in the actual show, because this Deb is just
the actress is fantastic. I think she's doing an amazing
jobs as this character, and this character is just really
pissing me off and bothering me hence my nickname, which
we'll get into spoilers where we'll bring that up, because
it's such a brutal scene that she has and she's
just she's a really good actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. Yeah, No, I am continuing to love
this show. I think it's absolutely fantastic. Once the show
is all said and done, you know, I don't want
to over commit to things. Right now. We got we
got Daredevil retros in the works right now we're watching.
There's there's plenty of other retros coming up, and of
course our schedules already bunmed. Up, But man, I want
to jump back into Dexter after watching this show, Like
it's totally capturing the same magic and elements of what
that show had for me, at least in early portions
of the show. So yeah, I think they're doing a
fantast job at just capsuling that but still making it
feel like it's a different era in Dexter's journey. It
doesn't just feel like they're remaking season one or anything like.
It does feel like it is a different show, you know,
mainly because we have different characters and different periods of
their lives. Someone like Harry, like we didn't really get
them to the extent of where we have him here. Obviously,
deb is in a completely different area of her life
at this point in time versus the original show. So
I think they have enough here that is different. But
I'm continuing to like our cast and crew. I think
I'm starting to like Christian Slater more in the Hairy role.
But it's still, as I said in the previous episode,
it's just I just I just kind of see Christian
Slater on screen. But I am starting to maybe look
past that a little bit more, and I think it's
just due to how good. His his like on screen
chemistry is whether it's it's him and the other police
officers or him and Dexter, or even like the few
scenes that we have between him and Deb. I see
where you're coming from with Deb. I feel like I
still really like this version for for where we are
in the timeline. I'll go into that more when we
get into the spoiler section of the episode, but yeah,
I think it's still really really solid. Patrick, I forget
his last name, but the actual that's playing Dexter, I
think he's just he's so great, like all of his
mannerisms of being like i'll say, like the daytime Dexter,
like when he's just like the quirky, nerdy guy working
the forensics. I think it's like pretty dead on to
Michael Chall's version. So huge credit there of just like
little things that he does with his shoulders or like
like I don't know, just just little smirks here and
there that he does, like when he's playing you know,
the everyday Dexter, which is literally like a role that
he plays because that isn't his his like what he
actually is on this on the underneath, like he has
this dark passenger with him but I think he's just
doing such a good job of portraying that version of
the role. And yeah, I think this episode had a
wild ending and it was it was an ending that
I'm like, fuck, I gotta wait a week to watch this,
Like I I just want it now, which is what
you really want for these weekly episode reviews. You want
the people feasting for more. And yeah, no, I I
might be like a couple of little nitpicks here and there,
but overall, I still think this was was really really
solid and yeah, no, it's it's a good time, it's funny.
I guess. Minor spoiler, there's a character that's introduced in here.
Mad Dog is his name, which is you know my nickname?
And man, I'm like, this is the exact same role
that he has in The Matrix. It seems like like Cipher.
Speaker 3: I guess that's right, that's where he was from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, Joe Pantoliano, that's the actor's name. He plays
Cipher in The Matrix. Of course, you know the great
betrayal that he does in that movie. I guess supports
for the Matrix nineteen ninety nine movie. I apologize, but
I just couldn't get that character out of my mind.
I'm like, man, this is just like Cipher if he
like escaped to the real world and he's just doing
like his own side gig now, So that was kind
of funny for me to get through. But No, I
liked everything that was going on here. I think it's
really great. I'm really digging this show, and yeah, no
I recommend it to people. I still believe that it's
better if you watch the original show first. Obviously, you know,
the episode one has a big spoiler of like what
happens for the continuation show, but yeah, for many other reasons,
like beyond that, I still think it's really good to
jump into this, even just like things that they're mentioning
with the mom and obviously that big eventuality that's gonna
happen with her, because we're getting like flashbacks with her
and we're just getting closer to that event and they're
like mentioning names that she's getting closer to, and I'm like,
oh my god, this is so sad, especially now that
we're like seeing more of the character. It's just an
impending doom that's coming. So uh, yeah, no, I'm digging
it though.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Yeah, I am too.
Speaker 3: Impending doom.
Speaker 2: Like we'll talk more about that in the spoilers. But
it's good you bring that up because I feel like
there's a few there's a few things, a few characters
that we see here that's in pending doom for sure,
and it's only because we know where things go on
the story, right.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so exactly anything else? I think, well, hops
kip jump. Maybe we'll slide a quick little ad break here,
and then when we come back, we'll unravel the story.
So we'll go back. All right, we are back, Taylor Field,
where do you want to You want to start with
deb because you're yeah, you were mentioning you're not loving
some of her life decisions here, which definitely questionable. I
think maybe I'll just start my opening statement on the
defense of Deborah Morgan. Here, I she's doing some three things,
especially for being I feel like I keep forgetting and
like thinking that she is older than she is. But
here she she reaffirms that you know, she is in
high school, like she is a student. So this is
just I don't know, maybe I just wasn't adventurous as
a high schooler. Put some of the things that she's
doing here are extremely questionable. However, some and like the
things that she's doing are obviously very different than what
happens in the original show, because by that point, she's
already a cop, so obviously she's she's being more by
the book and not just being off the rails going
to these parties meeting guys and like doing coke and
whatnot and just partying all the time. But I think
that like a big character trait of what Deborah Morgan
has throughout the whole events of the original Dexter Show
is being someone that was not like the focal point
of like like her parents, like obviously they don't have
their mom, and then even in that show, they in
the original show, like she's still stressed how Harry always
was just like had a way better relationship with Dexter,
so she was always envious of that, And I think
that's clearly being shown here, like she's mentioning it pretty
much every other episode, how they're just like obsessed with
each other because they're both just in their little cop
realm and they really don't have any time for her,
And this episode, like she kind of blows up at them,
like in that episode, how they don't even know that
like she's like the captain of the cheers or not
the cheer squad, the volleyball squad, and there's just a
lot of big things happening in her life, and she's
just not getting that attention that she kind of should
be getting from at least like a parent or family
member or anything like that, Right, So then she's kind
of forced to get those just affirmations from like the
outside realm, right, whether it's her going to the clubs
and just getting hit on by guys or have guys
like buy or drinks or whatnot. Like that's just how
she's kind of seeking that out. And I think that's
pretty I think that's like it's not like that's happening
throughout the whole show of Dexter, like the original Dexter,
but I still think, especially later on, like she it
seems like she does struggle with that just self confidence
because she never really has reaffirmations. I hope I'm using
that word rate a couple of different ways now, but
I just think that like what I'm seeing here as
an origin for the character, it like it fits for
for where deb is later on in the original Dexter show.
And I definitely think that even like looking at this character,
if Harry dies, you know, and like she she loses
that father figure and she kind of just has to
grow up really fast. I think that, yeah, I can
easily see her grow up to be this like badass
cop that's by the book and doing everything as she
should be. So yeah, that's kind of my defense for
this version. But I see where you are coming from.
I think it really wouldn't have expected her to be
part of me. Got the little hiccups now, but this
off the rails as an origin character, especially her being
in high school. But she doesn't have the best home life.
There's definitely worse home life out there, but she's just
kind of ignored by Harry, and obviously Dexter's doing his
own thing. So yeah, she's.
Speaker 2: Buying drugs from a blockbuster guy and going to the
clubs and drinking boxers like alcohol and stuff like that,
just making bad decisions. And that's where it's just it's
so funny to think that this is the character it
becomes like a really really good cop and like Harry's
Harry's legacy. But yeah, I just think though that her
being upset about not being able to have the truck
because her brother and her dad are doing their own
kind of meeting or whatnot, and just the whole line
of where the dad's like, I'm sorry you couldn't take
the truck, but like there was a dead kid hanging
in downtown or whatever, and then she's just.
Speaker 3: Like, well, fuck, how I can't compete with a dead kid.
Like it's just like Jesus this.
Speaker 2: The girl's not had a great upbring, and I absolutely
blame Harry for that, but it's just a nasty dynamic
and it's just, oh, it's like, cauld she imagines your
daughter calls you when the phone leaves a voicemail, which
is like I'm staying at so and so, and you
just hear a guy laughing in the background. It's like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's also like Harry doesn't fucking care, right, He's like, well,
that's a bad lie. Then he like cracks open his
beer and watch the game or whatever. So it's like
man like, like, clearly he has things in his own
life and he has the whole dexter dynamic, but like
he's very much is like as long as she's doing
stuff and she's kind of out of my way, it's
it's it's worked out, and obviously it's a pretty unhealthy
dynamic to have her father, especially for like your daughter
kind of needs you, you know, like this is kind
of a big period of her life, and like multiple
times she's like crying out for some help and support there.
And like even even like that line where you said
I can't compete with a dead kid, Like I feel
like it's it's it's almost like brute, Like it's just
a lot of emotions and like it's so raw that
like Harry would just be upset with how that was going,
but like she didn't fucking know this right, like like
like it says if he just brought that up and
threw it in her face. So like I definitely don't
blame her at all in those instances. So yeah, I
think I'm just feeling bad for the character because she
is doing these things. But I just feel like there's
a lot of pieces at play, Like like when she
comes home and like, yeah, so won't be home for dinner.
Here's some money, and she just calls this this hot
Italian guy or whatever the hell he is. I'm like, man,
like this is so like yeah, like upsetting, but also
like not unbelievable for you know, like an eighteen year
old girl or however old she is. Yeah, just anyways,
I don't blame her, but let's here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I don't blame her either because
to me, yeah, it's just it's bad upbringing and it's
all fucked up. And she's got her like she's got
her one good friend. But even though she became captain
of the volleyball team, she's got like her friends, I
guess not really your friends. Her squad mates just ditch
her and you got that one.
Speaker 1: Like this was such like an unhealthy relationship to with
the team where I feel like the whole team dynamic
is them just trying to like win them over, Like well,
I'm gonna drive in to the beach, and then the
second that like this other girl shows up, like the
whole team just leaves them, and like I gotta imagine
like my own friend group be like oh yeah, we'll
just squeeze in or like we'll we'll divvy up and
get a right, it's like see you later, a loser,
like find your own way to the beach. Its just
it seems so cheesebally in my mind, and yeah, I
don't love the uh that's kind of like her threat
like like right now, you know, it's just trying to
impress her friends and being being popular, and I don't
know like what happens like is entertaining. But for the
plot wise, I'm definitely more invested in stuff that's going
on between Harry and Dexter.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. I guess speaking with Harry and Dexter
here you get them kind of revisiting, maybe more so
Harry revisiting than Dexter, although you can see it's still
evident in Dexter and we know his backstory, but it's
not like he's just he doesn't understand why because he
sees the dead kid, he's not feeling good about it.
He's feeling a little bit weak at the knees. And Harry,
through his flashbacks, we see him sleeping with Dexter's mom
and he's going to the archives section of the Miami
ped is like, hey, can you make sure that Dexter
can't like look up anything and figure out where he
was found and the shipping container all that kind of stuff.
So he's keeping it, he's keeping it pretty uh tightly
wound up. So no one else can really figure this out,
but you see it, it triggers for Dexter, and they have
kind of like a brief heart to heart about it,
and the Dexter kind of bonds with that other cop.
I can't remember his name, but the other cop kind
of kind of yah boosts up his morale a little bit,
like going, you know, you can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No. I really like that that character sure that
Dexter was interacting with, And I feel like there's moments
like this where you just like forget where Dexter is
just like an actual serial killer. You know, he is
just a straight up murderer, because even when he's interacting
with like the Captain's kid, when he's playing the game
boy and he's just kind of like bonding with him
and gives him a twix, and he just seems like
such a genuinely nice guy. Like I guess that it's
a good thing that he's able to channel these things,
because he would just be more of a monster. But
at the end of the day, he still is murdering people.
So I and like, again, that's just where I like,
I credit like the actor of just being able to
like put on that like persona of what the Dexter,
you know, day to day Dexter is, and that's something
that Michael C. Hall was so good at doing, just
the balance there and then later on when he goes
like full monster mode and you just feel like he
is this menacing killer. So just the differences there, I
the star contrast. I guess it's just it's really felt
in those moments. But now I really like all of
the all the moments that Dexter was having with those
with those side characters, and even just like the weight
that he felt because of like finding the dead kid
and just that really stuck with him the whole time.
Even though he is used to seeing dead bodies, you know,
he is a killer, Like, he still just gets so
caught off by stuff like that. And I think that's
another thing that what this show is. Like, something that
I'm really appreciated about the show is just getting those
scenes between Harry and Dexter, because like he is alive here,
so we can like see like they both come back
from work and they're just kind of talking about stuff.
So that's just something which is a fresh dynamic that
we don't really get. Obviously, he speaks to Harry when
he's when he's dead, but that's just kind of ghost
for him, so it's much different in the sense of
actually having them there. So I just, yeah, I like
those moments and Dexter being the good guy Dexter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and him being the good guy. I mean, he
was trying to find another victim here, and I feel
like he's really just picking up because he hasn't killed anyone,
I mean, until he kills that nurse that was his
first and then you get this other guy that he kills,
and now he's got his target on the third person,
mad Dog, And that's why I feel like he's kind
of manipulating Harry because he drops the evidence in front
of him and he's like, oh, this guy like da
da da da, Like oh, let me use what you
taught me, and he's thrown in like, oh this guy
could he's gonna kill a witness, he's gonna you know,
all these other people he's gonna hurt so forth. So
I feel like he's really laying it on and trying
to manipulate his dad, like you know, a kid would
like pointing out all the reasons why he wants to
get an Xbox or he deserves an Xbox or whatever.
It's just needs to have it. And so with Dexter
here getting his wish and getting the green light to
go and kill him, yeah, he could have been a
lot more careful. And he's not using the drugs yet either,
he's still just like knocking out. But yeah, it's funny
how things kind of go real sideways. It works out
for him, but it's.
Speaker 1: I don't know though, It's it's not like it's just
a clean, okay, perfect that's dealt with, Like just talking
about the ending here, like when he does escape, runs out,
gets hit by the car, and best case scenario, he dies, right,
so he can't really speak about anything that just happened,
but liked but like cops are gonna go to his house, right,
and there's obviously so much evidence of like a full
on rough housing things going on. There's probably bruises on
his actual body. Why is he naked? Like there's a
lot of questions out here that is gonna have breadcrumbs
And yeah, I just think it was a really shocking
way to end the episode because now it's like, what's
dex are gonna do? Does he have to run back
and like clean up the whole house of like any
evidence that he was even there. Probably he smashed up
a bunch of guitars. He don't think he was really
wearing gloves in any of those moments. Maybe he was,
maybe I missed it, But there's just a lot of like,
holy fuck, pick up the pieces here, like like how
can we roll with the punches and just adapt to
to to what just happened. So I love the way
that the episode ended, honestly, especially that there was such
a big emphasis on this guy isn't a regular guy,
Like he is a hit man. He is a professional.
Like you can't just you can't just just bag him
in his house. You know, he kind of did get
that the upper hand of him, but I knew as
soon as he undid his feet, the old eyeballs, you know,
cipher awoke and just started popping off. And Yeah, I
just like the I like the the danger I think
that is at play when Dexter's try to take out people,
because I emphasized it last week when we were talking
about it, But like he's not a professional at this
point in time. You know, he doesn't know the exact
dosage or any dosage to give people to like actually
make it a clean takeout. So yeah, I like how
messy it is.
Speaker 2: And that's where I honestly thought that, Okay, this is
Dexter making a mistake, that he's done the research, he's
in the homework, but this guy is not a killer,
because I mean, he was convincing to me he was
into foreclosures. But when Dexter, yeah, under the feet and
this guy like wraps his legs around Dexter's head and
like flips, and I was like, Okay, no, this guy's
definitely guilty. He's a contract killer because he's got all
the dance moves here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was clean. That was like some black
belt Brazilian jiu jitsu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm glad that that's the case and that
they went the route that they did and it wasn't
just him making a mistake and killing the wrong person,
because I feel like they were rushing a little bit
and he couldn't really get the right information aside from
just this witness testimony person that was like almost fully
shredded in the shredder. So yeah, like I think that
they they did a good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like that moment, for me, it's like this
is pretty fucking convenient. You know, it's like a half
shredded piece of thing that he could just like totally
piece it together. There's a scripture on the back that
like details more of what's happening there, and this is
something like it's happened a couple times already. I had
some beef with the whole nurse killing, and now that
I'm watching, I'm like, maybe this was just always a
thing in Dexter, Like I just haven't watched the show
in a while, or there is just a lot of
lucky moments that happen, because yeah, I really thought it
was going to be set up actually that this wasn't
actually a killer and it was a complete thing where
like Dexter thinks that he has him dead to rights,
he thinks he has his evidence, and then he rushed it,
and then and then he didn't actually and something bad
happens to like an innocent person, and then that's like
a big thing that Harry can throw in his face
to like really emphasize that, like you have to be
one hundred percent sure. I really thought it was gonna
be going that way because it just seemed way too
fast and way too lucky that he like everything was
falling in place until I see the naked Brazilian jiu jitsu.
You know, when he's doing he's popping the moves on him, like,
oh my god, Okay, No, he is just the Navy
seal like that that we thought he was the whole time.
So I guess maybe a little bit of a con there,
because I would have wanted more juice there on on
just the emphasis of because because that's a big thing
in the code, right, like you have to make sure
that they actually are completely guilty. So I just thought
that maybe in the show we'd be seeing a moment
where he didn't do that and it fucked everything up.
So then that's what really solidifies the importance of that,
but it doesn't really seem like that's what we're getting here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's a reoccurring thing because we see
that in the first first season, I mean all the
seasons really, but yeah, him just being oh, where he's
got to find evidence to confirm that this is someone
he has to kill or someone he has permission to kill.
I guess ask for the code, and I think a
lot of times in the actual like the main Dexter show,
he finds maybe their trophies is and that's his confirmation.
He finds other little things they I.
Speaker 1: Just can't remember if it's as like easy, because like
we're talking about the nurse one, how she just fucking
has like the kill list like in her work drawer,
like really, and Dexter like just like saw her like
two minutes ago, and he's already found like it's just
really like that's how easy it is. And now that
it's happened a couple times already in this show, it
makes me think of like, wow, maybe it just wasn't
that clean in the original show. But nonetheless, nonethless, we
don't go now where. Now, maybe we'll take a quick
little ad break here while we gather our thoughts, and
then we'll be right back. All right, we are back.
Have we gathered our thoughts? Probably not? I had something
written down here. Oh, it was cool to just see
Dexter on this boat here. I had to look up
like his original boat because I in my mind I
thought it was like the exact same design to what
don't fret that's that was the name of this ship,
whereas Dexter Morgan's was a slice of life, I believe,
And they have different models for sure, But I just
like the moments when he's like, oh, maybe I'll have
to get one of these myself one day. And some
people might think that's cheesy, just a little bit of
a nod to the future of what Dexter is, but
it's just I don't know. I like the whole setup
and location of what it was. I like how he
thought he was going to have him alone, and then
of course he's just it's like a multiple chartered plane.
And again, like shout out to the actor that he
is playing mad Dog. I think he's got a good
level of charisma and sleaziness to him, where like you
are suspect to him even though he's putting this big
smile on and feeling friendly. So I think he's a
good I think it was a good casting choice for
the role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I agree, he was. Yeah, he was shady
when the questions weren't were kind of like piling up
and getting a little bit too invasive. Just felt super
super shady and redirecting it. Yeah. I enjoyed that whole
sequence too, of the charters, kind of like piling up.
It's not a private charter or anything like that. And yeah,
I just feel like these are all little things that
kind of come to Dexter as ways to improve because
this is a guy who's running a boat and dexters like,
you know, I want a boat, and so that's a
little foreshotow like he wants to get a boat and
that's how he does his body dumpings. And then I
guess you have him see well he already knows about
collecting trophies, but I'm assuming him using medications like drug.
The person is inspired from the nurse at the start,
but I mean it doesn't have to be. That's just
kind of like my my head canon.
Speaker 1: N Yeah, good head canon. So we're mentioning devil already. Uh,
she's meeting up with this interesting man who you know
works for his father. Seems like it's just a crime
syndicate thing I don't know, could be tied to the
main Extrata guy. I guess that that's kind of where
my thoughts are going. That's that's the chap who's like
the head of Oh no, Estrata am I mixing up
my people right now? Is a strata the one from
the flashbox that MM because Astrata is the one that
like chops up the mom, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, there guys to blame for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was I was gonna just start going
off on I feel like this character that Deb is
interacting with is extremely suss and is potentially linked to
like the mob stuff that's happening with this child, like
the deceased boy at the start of this episode. How
that they keep saying it's cartel related, I feel like
this character is also cartel related, And in my mind,
I just don't love the idea of like our main
threat for like just the police force is now getting
intertwined with like Deb, who's kind of off on our
own thing. I guess it's a way to like combine
the stories, but it just seems I don't know, it
seems like we're adding too much significance on or maybe
like putting an emphasis on trying to make a lot
of importance on like making all the characters fit together.
I don't think you really have to do that in
this show, even though you know, we have the cast
on screen, like we have the characters to write around with.
But I just I don't want them to like overdo
it in the sense of trying to do too much,
because this is still a prety cool show, right, Like,
we still are going to be doing gross and development
with these characters later on, So yeah, maybe I just
I just don't want them to overcomplicate it, if if
that makes any sense at all, But yeah, that makes sense.
What do you think about this, this handsome man with
a nice car and nice blue car. You know, he's
got the he's got the car phone. It's a big
deal back in the day. The carphone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the five disc CD player.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what his deal is. I I
get kind of like the that preemptive kind of flashbacks
to the Brian being the ice.
Speaker 1: Truck Killer and this is just Brian again talking with
the Dexter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean he would be around that age range.
Speaker 1: But no, I he's been after this whole time. It's
not until he's Ice truck Killer. Really.
Speaker 2: I think that him being very private makes you think, Okay,
it's definitely not anything good. He's redirecting when deb is
asking and he's changing the topic of conversation. Yeah yeah,
but he's got a lot of money, so it's gonna
be something illegal, that's for sure. Maybe he wants Deb
in on it. I don't know why, but hopefully she's
she's in a position where she's trying to do things
to spite her dad, and hopefully this guy doesn't. He
isn't able to capitalize and take advantage of that, but
I feel like he is. I just need a little
bit more context and just need to know exactly where
he stands, because all I have so far is him
just being a bit of a flirt. That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, what do we got else else wise? I
guess the flashback stuff we get a little bit more
of just building upon like a fatherly blonde, fatherly blonde
fatherly bond between Harry and i'll say Dexter and Brian
pretty much just Dexter. Brian's pretty fucking weirdo. You know,
he opens the door and he's got like twenty seven
fucking lizard tales just lined up in a row. You know.
We were mentioning last week how the decision to have
Harry of like lost a son in the past, like
that was a new decision for this show that wasn't
something in the original. I feel like, as we're getting
more of these flashbacks, I actually liked the decision. As
fucked up as it is, I think it just adds
a lot more of a an emphasis on like why
he would be maybe like seeking out or not necessarily
seeking out, but just feel like he has a duty
to be a fatherly figure to these to the keep
saying these kids, but just Dexter because of course, like
the boy that he lost and how that was his fault, right,
Like he just wasn't paying attention and that's what happened.
And I think that weight is something that would weigh
on a character for a very long time, if not
their whole lives. And just how protective he is over Dexter.
I think if you think about that being in the
back of his mind or just the history there, I
think it just makes more sense and just adds to
the just the concreteness of their don't you think it's
a word of the concreteness you know what I'm going for? Yeah, yeah,
just the strength of of that bond and why he
would want to really be that role for Dexter. So
I as the show goes on, I I like the
decision to switch it up for the for the new canon.
M oh No, I had something else too. It's nice
to see more Dexter just doing his little investigative thing.
That's always something from the original show that I admired
when he's doing his like splatter recreations and just explaining.
You know, I always love a good cop show in
that sense. Yeah, he's got his melons. You have fucking
Masuka doing his little giggly laugh, you know, like, well,
I don't remember what he says, some of it like
grabbing her melons and he does this stupid little laugh again,
you know, I like, I like the amount of Masuka
that we're getting in this show. It's not overdone. He's
he comes in there and he has a memorable laugh,
and that's kind of it. Oh that was the other
thing I was gonna mention, you know, like we had
a kidnapped Judge's son who's like ten years old or something.
Through this whole show. He got his fingers chopped off
and started this episode, he's just he's dead now. He's
hanging off of Like anytime like a child is murdered
on on like any type of media is just like
just wrenching it. Obviously it's a very horrible thing. But
I think I was just extremely surprised as well, Like
I did not think at all this character would have
been killed. But how do you react to that? Because
for me, I was very shocked at first. I thought
it was like like a dummy or something like that.
Just in denial, I guess, I'm like, there's no way
that's actually what they did. But yeah, the cartails that
fucked up. They took an ice pick to the back
of his neck and just fucking murdered him. So yeah,
got wrenching. But how did that hit for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I was definitely surprised. You have the cartel
not having any demands of any kind anything like that,
So it's the motives are a little bit unclear, and
just the precursor scenes leading up to this, I feel
like it wasn't we didn't get enough kind of information
to understand what we're dealing with. And I'm just assuming
that they're just playing that off because of where we're heading,
and by the end of the season it'll all make sense.
I don't know, but I just I do think it's Yeah,
I think it's kind of odd.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. Uh. I think if you don't have anything
else to add, we can just skittle scattle on out
of here.
Speaker 2: Let's let's skittle, let's scattle.
Speaker 1: You want to skit on scattle, all right, please, we'll
be skilling on to UH to our next adventure and
that's where we'll be okay, So thanks for joining us.
Until next time you know, we'll be here, But goodbye,
bye bye