Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: They're calling it a face off in the Oval Office
Speaker 1: between President Trump and Canadian Prime Minister the new guy,
Speaker 1: Mark Carney elected because everyone up there hates the other
Speaker 1: guy sitting across from him.
Speaker 2: Today it's where we kick off swamp Watch.
Speaker 3: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
Speaker 3: and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 4: are done.
Speaker 2: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere So.
Speaker 6: That now you drain the swat, I can imagine what
Speaker 6: can be and be unburdened by what has been. You know,
Speaker 6: Americans have always been going at President.
Speaker 7: They're not scupid.
Speaker 8: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the.
Speaker 6: Truth whether people voted for you were not swamp watch.
Speaker 6: They're all count of on.
Speaker 8: Not a giant surprise, But this was mostly cordial, this
Speaker 8: Oval Office meeting between President Trump and the new Prime
Speaker 8: Minister of Canada, Mark Karney. President Trump, for example, talked
Speaker 8: about some of the great things that come from Canada.
Speaker 4: Canada is a very special place to make I know
Speaker 4: so many people that live in Canada. My parents had
Speaker 4: relatives that lived in Canada, my mother in particular, And no,
Speaker 4: I love Canada a lot. I have a lot of
Speaker 4: respect for the Canadians, Wayne Gretzky.
Speaker 1: This reminded me of love actually when it was the
Speaker 1: American president and the British Prime Minister talking about David
Speaker 1: Beckham's right foot, I mean, just so kitchen.
Speaker 8: There is so much about the shared history of these
Speaker 8: two countries together, obviously, but Mark Carney comes into this
Speaker 8: knowing that Trump has for many months now said that
Speaker 8: Canada would benefit from being the fifty first state of
Speaker 8: the United States.
Speaker 9: As you know from real estate, there are some ps
Speaker 9: that are never for sale. We're sitting in one right now,
Speaker 9: you know, bucking and Pallace. You visit it as well,
Speaker 9: And having met with the owners of Canada over the
Speaker 9: course of the campaign last several months, it's not for sale,
Speaker 9: won't be for sale.
Speaker 1: Ever, this sounded weird the way he said owners of
Speaker 1: Canada like just the voters or what have you?
Speaker 6: Right, but he made it.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, this guy is not a great orator.
Speaker 8: You've been around, You've been around friends who come into
Speaker 8: the evening it a disagreement, right, you know. You go
Speaker 8: going out with the friends and it turns out that
Speaker 8: Josie and Biff were fighting in the car, maybe on
Speaker 8: the way, and then they show up and they're pretending
Speaker 8: like everything is just fine, and they're like, yeah, well,
Speaker 8: your mother in law's breath wait, that'd be my mother.
Speaker 8: My mother in law's breath smells like onions and pickles.
Speaker 8: And then she goes, oh does it that's too bad
Speaker 8: because your mom's breath smells like oh.
Speaker 2: Never really about them?
Speaker 8: Is ever about the moms? And it's always this is
Speaker 8: the kind of thing where this is. This is it's
Speaker 8: Mark Carney's opportunity to show to the people of Canada
Speaker 8: that he is willing and capable of standing up to
Speaker 8: Donald Trump, because that's what they elected him for, is
Speaker 8: they want him to stand up to Donald Trump. And
Speaker 8: Donald Trump owns that room. He just owns that room
Speaker 8: no matter who is in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want him to stand up
Speaker 1: to Trump so much as we're not going to take
Speaker 1: you seriously, you're not a serious person and anything that
Speaker 1: you say is not going to be it's not going
Speaker 1: to land with any sort of gravitas. After he said
Speaker 1: it was not for sale, Trump shot back, time we'll tell.
Speaker 1: A reporter asked if there was anything Carney could tell
Speaker 1: him to lift his tariffs of as much as twenty
Speaker 1: five percent on Canada, and Trump bluntly said no.
Speaker 2: Now, Trump went into.
Speaker 1: This thing blasting on truth social we need nothing from Canada,
Speaker 1: we need nothing, We need nothing from you.
Speaker 2: We have all the things. All we need is friendship.
Speaker 8: Well, and he said specific in response to that question
Speaker 8: from the reporter, he was talking specifically about the timeline.
Speaker 8: He said, there's nothing he could say today that's going
Speaker 8: to make me change this. And Mark Karney went on
Speaker 8: to say, yes, this is a lengthier, bigger discussion that
Speaker 8: would be involved when it comes to the tariffs. And
Speaker 8: that's with our that's with one of our biggest trading
Speaker 8: partners in the entire world.
Speaker 6: Imagine what we're going to have to do with others.
Speaker 1: The two sat there in the chairs and looked at
Speaker 1: each other and nodded at each other, with both thought
Speaker 1: bubbles being oh, bless your heart, where Trump is looking
Speaker 1: at Canada as not even the JV team, maybe the
Speaker 1: Frosh team, and Carney looking at Trump like he is
Speaker 1: a simple minded buffoon.
Speaker 2: Both thought bubbles said.
Speaker 8: Oh, bless your heart, We'll look at you. There was
Speaker 8: a side note, a California side note to all of this.
Speaker 8: President Trump blasted the ongoing turmoil that is the high
Speaker 8: speed rail project in California.
Speaker 4: It's the worst cost over and I've ever seen. I've
Speaker 4: watched a lot of stupid people build a lot of
Speaker 4: stupid things, but that's the worst cost over and I've
Speaker 4: ever seen what's happening between San Francisco and Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: It is awful.
Speaker 1: But you know what, and I stick to my freaking
Speaker 1: statement I made yesterday. Reopening Alcatraz as a prison is
Speaker 1: just as dumb as the high speed rail project. It
Speaker 1: makes about as much sense, it's about as much necessary
Speaker 1: as that, and it's a pit.
Speaker 2: It's a money pit, both projects.
Speaker 8: If you know somebody who is using an AI chat
Speaker 8: bot for I don't know, relaxation or entertainment or therapy,
Speaker 8: it's time to step in. It's time to intervene because
Speaker 8: this is a very bad.
Speaker 6: If we're going out yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Would you admit it if you were using an AI
Speaker 1: chatbot as your friend, as your confidant.
Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't tell me.
Speaker 8: I would just make up a name and talk about
Speaker 8: how that person tells me things that I should say
Speaker 8: to you that you would not.
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Speaker 3: AM six forty.
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Speaker 1: Thank you don't have to say period, but amen. You
Speaker 1: know I am afraid of using the voice to text thing.
Speaker 1: I've never used it because I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna.
Speaker 6: You've heard what comes out of your mouth that and yeah.
Speaker 1: I need I need it to be a thought and
Speaker 1: then it needs to come out and then I need
Speaker 1: to proofrate it before I hit seven.
Speaker 6: There needs to.
Speaker 8: Be a speed bump between between the brain and the mouth.
Speaker 1: I had one of each in the home. My dad
Speaker 1: was a teacher, my mom was a nurse. Brother's a plumber,
Speaker 1: and I brought nothing to the family.
Speaker 8: We you bring joy and I'm making things up.
Speaker 2: You bring Thank you very much, very sweet.
Speaker 6: So anyway, this meta AI app last week.
Speaker 8: Was launched by Mark Zuckerberg, who I have yet to
Speaker 8: determine if I think he's one of the brilliant minds
Speaker 8: of our time or if he is ushering in the apocalypse.
Speaker 2: Well that's what they're all doing, right, Well.
Speaker 6: I don't understand.
Speaker 8: I mean, this guy is a parent, and I look
Speaker 8: at it as from that perspective when we talk about
Speaker 8: things like meta AI. This is a dedicated home for
Speaker 8: the AI chatbot that exists in all of the meta
Speaker 8: products the Facebook, the Instagram, WhatsApp, et cetera. It is
Speaker 8: now number two on the iPhone download charts, and it's
Speaker 8: promising you a more personalized AI with tailored answers and.
Speaker 6: Advice.
Speaker 1: The person who wrote this article says, the first time
Speaker 1: I opened the app, I asked it to describe me
Speaker 1: in three emojis, and it could by drawing on years
Speaker 1: of personal information tracked by its sister apps, Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker 8: They also said that he found out that it built
Speaker 8: what it refers to as a memory file about me,
Speaker 8: or as they said in Westworld Reveries that said that
Speaker 8: their interests included natural fertility techniques, divorce, child custody, a
Speaker 8: payday loan, and the laws about tax evasion, and that
Speaker 8: by default, Meta AI keeps a copy of everything I
Speaker 8: say to it. Now, if you have one of those
Speaker 8: personalized devices in your home, for example, that you scream
Speaker 8: at to ask what the temperature is going to be outside,
Speaker 8: or what the weather's going to be like tomorrow, or
Speaker 8: what time it is, you also, by default, in many cases,
Speaker 8: give that company the ability to record and store everything
Speaker 8: that you ask your little device.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like that thing in my home.
Speaker 1: It's listening to every single thing you say all the time.
Speaker 1: I only have one in the bathroom that's.
Speaker 2: Where you do your real communication.
Speaker 6: No, no, it's where we do the least amount of communication.
Speaker 8: I would say, if it's in the kitchen, or if
Speaker 8: it's watching TV with us or whatever.
Speaker 2: No, it's smart. But but what does she do for
Speaker 2: you in the bathroom?
Speaker 6: Nothing? My wife yells at her and demands to know.
Speaker 8: What the temperature is, like whether to if she's is
Speaker 8: it a sweater day?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 2: Does us say? The name is Amanda?
Speaker 6: Amanda?
Speaker 2: Really, I've never heard your voice your wife's tone?
Speaker 1: Do that?
Speaker 6: You've never been in my bathroom? For one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have, well the bathroom downstairs.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, but there's not anyone in there. Now that's
Speaker 8: where we keep the camera, but that's not where we.
Speaker 2: Have the because that's what you want to see.
Speaker 6: So she put money on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all here my husband being like Amanda, Amanda, like
Speaker 1: the like the tone you'd use with a bad kid. Amanda, Amanda,
Speaker 1: like are you listening?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 8: I always because it bothers my wife, I will say
Speaker 8: hey girl.
Speaker 6: To respond.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you are one of the people who
Speaker 1: wants this app Hi, Fred Rogan.
Speaker 10: How are you?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's good to see your face. That's
Speaker 2: excellent news.
Speaker 6: We will be here too.
Speaker 1: If you've gone in and downloaded this app because you
Speaker 1: want the AAI personal bought experience, be careful because yes,
Speaker 1: they're listening to everything.
Speaker 2: Everything you share is public.
Speaker 1: There is no button to share only with your Facebook
Speaker 1: and Instagram friends or over a direct message. So if
Speaker 1: you're sharing it, you're sharing it for everyone everyone.
Speaker 6: And don't forget there are kids in the house.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they are much more savvy when it comes to
Speaker 8: this kind of technology than you are. And if they're
Speaker 8: a little concerned or shy about asking you questions about something,
Speaker 8: they're going to ask this unfiltered computer about it, and
Speaker 8: that unfiltered computer is going to tell them whatever they
Speaker 8: want to know.
Speaker 1: This is early AI, right, so they're using everything to
Speaker 1: make it better. So everything, all all your chats they're
Speaker 1: training metas ai. This AI will remember everything, a transcript
Speaker 1: or a voice recording of every conversation you have with it.
Speaker 1: It's hooked into Facebook and Instagram. This is all also terrifying.
Speaker 1: Makes you want to touch anything, and oh yes, follow
Speaker 1: the money. Your chats can be used for ads. They're
Speaker 1: going to tailor all the ads more so than they
Speaker 1: already are to you. Yeah, this is the makes me
Speaker 1: want to buy nothing. By the way, I have such
Speaker 1: a contrarian that I have that response. The more tailor
Speaker 1: the ads get to me of exactly what I want,
Speaker 1: the more I'm not buying anything.
Speaker 8: Was it the great mathematician ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park
Speaker 8: who said, just because we can do something doesn't mean
Speaker 8: we should. Yes, this is this is this is the
Speaker 8: latest version of it for me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: Is that Mark Zuckerberg is both feet into this and
Speaker 8: we're not paying attention to it?
Speaker 2: Coming up next?
Speaker 8: Oh, this was an interesting study about autism. This is
Speaker 8: not a ground I should say it is groundbreaking. This
Speaker 8: is not the end of the conversation about autism, but
Speaker 8: it is an interesting look at because that's been so
Speaker 8: much in the headlines lately. A new study about maybe
Speaker 8: how to treat and then down the line even prevent
Speaker 8: some forms of autism.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry we're late, but I had one. I'll say
Speaker 1: it later.
Speaker 6: Say now, well, just.
Speaker 2: The whole meta thing.
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna talk sex with you that app so
Speaker 1: you're training this meta AI on how to talk about sex,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna turn around and talk to possibly your
Speaker 1: children about sex one percent.
Speaker 2: That's freaking terrifying.
Speaker 8: Again, Mark Zuckerberg has kids, and should that should be
Speaker 8: number one on his mind. My wife says, she's not
Speaker 8: screaming at Amanda, she's just letting her know the hierarchy
Speaker 8: in a stern tone.
Speaker 2: Oh that is it makes me.
Speaker 6: That's a nuanced yell.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 8: Forty Soviet era spacecraft is coming back to crash down
Speaker 8: upon our heads one of these days. After about fifty years,
Speaker 8: the Cosmos four to eight to two spacecraft is supposed
Speaker 8: to come back to Earth sometime between tomorrow and Tuesday.
Speaker 8: We'll wipe us out then somebody it might. I mean,
Speaker 8: chances are pretty infinitesimally small, but they said it's life
Speaker 8: to begin its official deorbit on Saturday, but they do
Speaker 8: not know exactly what it's going to do. It was
Speaker 8: originally designed to withstand entry into the atmosphere of the
Speaker 8: planet Venus. That's where it was originally going to go,
Speaker 8: So it is possible that parts of this thing do
Speaker 8: survive re entry.
Speaker 6: It never actually got out of low Earth orbit back.
Speaker 8: In nineteen seventy two, when it was launched and is
Speaker 8: now falling and will fall at some point in the
Speaker 8: next week or so.
Speaker 1: A study out of the UNLV Running Rebels has discovered
Speaker 1: a new molecular path that leads to autism. They say
Speaker 1: that this could open the way to treat and prevent autism.
Speaker 1: This was published last week in the journal Nature Neuroscience,
Speaker 1: and it found that a gene that causes myotonic dystrophy,
Speaker 1: a genetic condition that creates progressive muscle weakness, also causes autism.
Speaker 8: Now, this is one of those small but large. It's
Speaker 8: small because there are different causes they believe, but large
Speaker 8: because it is a piece of the puzzle. One of
Speaker 8: the psychiatrists or research director at Integrative Clinical Psychiatry Assistant
Speaker 8: at Columbia said, this is a landmark example of an
Speaker 8: RNA mediated pathway to autism. Doesn't account for all of it,
Speaker 8: but it does expose one route among the many that lead.
Speaker 6: To the spectrum.
Speaker 8: Part of it is that about ninety five percent of
Speaker 8: kids who are autistic have at least one extra condition.
Speaker 8: And they said they noticed a high crossover between people
Speaker 8: suffering from myotonic dystrophy and autism. So he asked this question,
Speaker 8: what's happening in the brains of people with myotonic dystrophy
Speaker 8: on the molecular level, and what is happening in the
Speaker 8: brains of people with autism. So they looked at all
Speaker 8: of this and they said, it's going to be important.
Speaker 8: This research itself is important because it has the potential
Speaker 8: to develop treatments that would target missplicing so that the
Speaker 8: healthy versions of proteins are produced. The autism is a
Speaker 8: genetic disorder. About sixty to ninety percent of it, they say,
Speaker 8: is genetics, which would leave room for outside factors, external
Speaker 8: environmental factors, but not quite conclusive on what those genes
Speaker 8: or what those mutated genes would be. So there's a
Speaker 8: laundry list of genes that might contribute to autism, and
Speaker 8: this again is one of those. It's not the final
Speaker 8: piece of the puzzle, but it is one that hopefully
Speaker 8: can bring some sort of clarity to all of this.
Speaker 1: So how would they go and prevent this from happening.
Speaker 8: That's a great question, other than finding some treatment that
Speaker 8: specifically goes after the DMPK gene is what they're talking about.
Speaker 8: DMPK that causes myotonic dystrophe can also cause the autism
Speaker 8: related genes. Again, they know the laundry list of some
Speaker 8: of them, but it would cause them to be mis
Speaker 8: spliced so that these autism related genes work differently, and
Speaker 8: when they are created they act as a sponge to
Speaker 8: absorb otherwise healthy proteins from a family of genes that
Speaker 8: would disrupt muscle and brain development. Again getting in there
Speaker 8: and hopefully stopping that cycle somehow, and again, then you've
Speaker 8: got to figure out when is this something that you
Speaker 8: would be able to detect in vitro? Is it something
Speaker 8: that comes that people are predisposed to autism and then
Speaker 8: some environmental factor affects them.
Speaker 1: When they're messing around DNA. At that point, it's I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's hard to say that that's down the
Speaker 1: road as far down there it is down the road,
Speaker 1: all right. Coming up next, near death experiences and how
Speaker 1: they change how people view their careers. I think you'd
Speaker 1: change the way you'd look at everything if you had
Speaker 1: a near death experience, I'd hope. So, how you choose
Speaker 1: to use your time, who you choose to spend it with.
Speaker 2: Why are you looking at my shoes?
Speaker 6: You'd probably rethink those shoes You're.
Speaker 3: Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 3: six forty.
Speaker 8: There's a new study out of the Journal of Management,
Speaker 8: Spirituality and Religion. Yes, one of these things. One of
Speaker 8: these kids is doing his own thing, Management, Spirituality and Religion.
Speaker 8: What a racket. Found that after brushing up against death,
Speaker 8: near death experience something like that, employees frequently reprioritize their
Speaker 8: professional lives and they shift away from shoes like that.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: They shift away from pursuing money or status or career
Speaker 8: advancement and go towards something meaningful, like what authentic relationships
Speaker 8: with colleagues and clients?
Speaker 2: Do we have anybody who had a near death experience?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shannon, I had a near death experience, and about
Speaker 5: twenty years ago after that, I took my watch off
Speaker 5: and said, I'll never wear this watch again because.
Speaker 7: Wherever I need to be able to be there on time,
Speaker 7: because I'm not going by time anymore. I'm just thank
Speaker 7: god I've on my got a second chance. Yeah, no, watch.
Speaker 6: Interesting.
Speaker 8: I wonder what happened to him there, because I guess
Speaker 8: you don't fall off the stadium at a Pirates game.
Speaker 2: Well that's a near death, I guess.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he could have he could have died out there
Speaker 8: on the warning track, they said. For many near death
Speaker 8: experience survivors, the transformation is dramatic. Many people quit their
Speaker 8: jobs in search of more meaningful work. One participant in
Speaker 8: this study said they chose to purture press sorry, They
Speaker 8: chose to pursue to entrepreneurship rather than corporate advancement, and
Speaker 8: focused on their spiritual fulfillment rather than ego gratification.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have this feeling that you would, just many people
Speaker 1: would the desire for money or more money, money beyond
Speaker 1: what you need in a basic level, would go out
Speaker 1: the window.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: I think that if you had one of these experiences,
Speaker 1: it would be all about like being grounded and being
Speaker 1: around people you love and experiencing life, and not the
Speaker 1: constant pursuit of more money. I think that that would
Speaker 1: be the first thing that went by the wayside. If
Speaker 1: you could support yourself just in a basic way, you know,
Speaker 1: not the biggest house, the best house, the best cars,
Speaker 1: close watches to it, whatever, All that crap would just
Speaker 1: be that crap, and you would only care about like
Speaker 1: what feels good in a like a a basic.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I also know, I would be curious to know
Speaker 8: if you were a witness to someone's near death experience,
Speaker 8: if it had the same impact on you. Right, if
Speaker 8: you had a good friend who was dramatically injured in
Speaker 8: a car accident or something like that, would that be
Speaker 8: enough to change your attitude because it didn't happen to you.
Speaker 6: But you were there or you saw it, or.
Speaker 8: You you know, help them recover or whatever, and saw
Speaker 8: that transformation in them other things.
Speaker 1: That's what they say all the time too, when people
Speaker 1: are on their deathbed. You know, you say, like, what
Speaker 1: do you wish you did more?
Speaker 10: Of?
Speaker 2: People never say work work for more money.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Other people said they would craft their existing jobs. They
Speaker 8: wouldn't quit their job, but they would craft their job
Speaker 8: to align with their new values. Or they would develop
Speaker 8: a heightened empathy for colleagues and customers. One participant said
Speaker 8: how they suddenly gained the ability to intuitively sense injuries
Speaker 8: and accident victims, things like seat belt injuries or whiplash
Speaker 8: or broken bones and head drama.
Speaker 2: That's odd, that would be an odd one.
Speaker 8: The occupations of the those they studied included everything farming, marketing,
Speaker 8: waiting tables, law.
Speaker 1: You would devote your life to your true passion, which
Speaker 1: is adult theater.
Speaker 8: Uh, I would still feel like I had all of
Speaker 8: you into it.
Speaker 6: I would still feel.
Speaker 8: I had a responsibility to provide for my family, so
Speaker 8: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Well, your kids are grown and they're out of the
Speaker 1: house and they're providing for themselves. Yeah, but you and
Speaker 1: your wife are going to be fine. You could devote yourself.
Speaker 1: You could create theater, you could act, you could direct,
Speaker 1: you could do all of those things. You could pour
Speaker 1: all of your creative mind into that. Doesn't that sound
Speaker 1: like a nice day?
Speaker 6: Do you want me to quit this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 1: If that's how it came out, that's absolutely not what
Speaker 1: I meant at all.
Speaker 6: Like, isn't there anything else you could do?
Speaker 2: I get it there had experience dialed up. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk trending when we come back.
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