Speaker 1: So with those doing episodes every single day, we're trying
Speaker 1: to start earlier so we can maybe do two and
Speaker 1: or three on some of those nights to like get
Speaker 1: as much. But then at that time it's like we're
Speaker 1: on a time crunch, and then the conversation we feel
Speaker 1: like we cut it off short, and that's not always
Speaker 1: the best. So starting earlier, like it sucks because our
Speaker 1: lives don't always allow for it because of work and
Speaker 1: family and everything else. But when we can, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Actually I was.
Speaker 4: I had already.
Speaker 3: I had worked today, and so whenever you were like, oh,
Speaker 3: I thought it was eight pm Central, I was like, fuck,
Speaker 3: that means I gotta cut it even shorter. But it
Speaker 3: was a shitty day at work anyway, so I was like,
Speaker 3: fucking no, it's all good. I mean, the podcast is
Speaker 3: the future, so that is always more important.
Speaker 2: It's the real work. It's the work that doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like work because it's.
Speaker 1: So nice, right right, It's the income I want to
Speaker 1: call it work, right, It's the revenue stream.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. So so how's uh, how's show being going?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Yeah? I'm excited. I really I don't know
Speaker 2: I got to this place where I was like, this
Speaker 2: may sound really fucked up, but I was like, I
Speaker 2: have people on to interview them, and I think when
Speaker 2: you're a guest on a show, I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people assume that, like the person interviewing them doesn't
Speaker 2: know a lot about what they're talking about, that's why
Speaker 2: you have them on to interview them. And so I
Speaker 2: kept having people who I felt like I was misleading
Speaker 2: because I'm like, no, I actually know everything you're saying.
Speaker 2: I just am interviewing you to make a show, and
Speaker 2: I like what you do and I like you, and
Speaker 2: so like, right, I like this, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how else to explain it. It got really weird, and
Speaker 2: so I'm doing interviews way less and I'm doing way
Speaker 2: more of just me talking about things we've noticed, which
Speaker 2: I like more.
Speaker 1: With interviews, though, especially if you get with somebody who
Speaker 1: knows a lot about it, and if you yourself know
Speaker 1: a lot about it, it's hard to not step over them.
Speaker 1: But it it works well if you can work with them,
Speaker 1: and y'all could build off each other. But it depends
Speaker 1: on the person, because some people can do a conversation
Speaker 1: and can do it back and forth, and it's great.
Speaker 1: Some people cannot. They have to have there have those scripted.
Speaker 2: They're like, here's my script, like ask me these questions,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, it's like the worst kind of interview.
Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, Honestly, like some of my favorite podcasts
Speaker 3: out there, Like I mean, I'm not going to throw
Speaker 3: anybody in the bus or name anything, but it's like
Speaker 3: it's so like they're my favorite because they're very informative,
Speaker 3: but conversely they're I would never want to do my
Speaker 3: show that way because it's so scripted and there's no
Speaker 3: room for thought, there's no room for interjection. It's that,
Speaker 3: you know, here's the question, here's the answer, here's the
Speaker 3: next question, here's the answer. That's not fun.
Speaker 4: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And this is still this is still a this is
Speaker 3: a hobby for us. We're not going to try to
Speaker 3: make it all scripted and stupid.
Speaker 2: No. I actually told someone once when they gave me
Speaker 2: the script us like, honestly, it's not the way my
Speaker 2: show goes. If you want to just come on and talk,
Speaker 2: let's talk. And if not, like, maybe there's another show
Speaker 2: that's better for you. And they were like they didn't
Speaker 2: want to come on, so it's like, okay, cool, we'll
Speaker 2: both have a better time this way, No, no disrespect,
Speaker 2: see you later.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We also have one guy come on the show who
Speaker 1: is like and then I ended up going on his
Speaker 1: show and it was to Long Story Short TLDR. Here
Speaker 1: it was to basically prove that the Bible and every
Speaker 1: story of old has been written in the stars. And
Speaker 1: it's something that like multiple people have talked about in
Speaker 1: multiple different ways.
Speaker 4: We had a guyology.
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating topic and this dude laid it out.
Speaker 1: Again me as a Christian, I don't necessarily agree with
Speaker 1: what he's saying, but again I third eye all the
Speaker 1: way open. It is a beautiful tapestry laid out before you,
Speaker 1: and you can really connect a lot of dots figuratively
Speaker 1: and literally if you look at it this way. And
Speaker 1: it was great. But the problem was his premise didn't
Speaker 1: denounce my faith. If anything, it like doubled down and
Speaker 1: made me believe it even harder because it's like, see,
Speaker 1: you're telling me it's even proven in ways I didn't
Speaker 1: even know before. Yes, But the problem.
Speaker 2: It's just like how great is God that he can
Speaker 2: write the story of stars and have it written in
Speaker 2: a book. Yes, And in more ways than that, it's
Speaker 2: also in our body. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 2: look at what what is the book called God Made Flesh. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fucking amazing. You're like, oh, our whole body is
Speaker 2: the same fucking story that's in the Bible, that's in
Speaker 2: the store. Sorry, it's like, how else could you show
Speaker 2: people that divinity is everywhere?
Speaker 1: It blows people's minds. But that was the problem his premise.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was and he was a great guy.
Speaker 1: His name was actually, I'll say, his name is Micah
Speaker 1: dank I got yeah. Do you think solid on his shoulder?
Speaker 1: He a little bit? You've met him?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I actually yeah. And so that was
Speaker 2: the I was like, dude, you need to like you
Speaker 2: need to like be a little more professional, and you
Speaker 2: need guesse your ship is read, and you also have
Speaker 2: to like stop being attacked, stop attacking people.
Speaker 1: That was the thing he And it wasn't just him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a and he's not a flat earther.
Speaker 1: But it's the same with flat Earth community when you
Speaker 1: go at them or even go at them, if you
Speaker 1: even say anything, counter, a little jab whatever. They go
Speaker 1: into immediate defense mode. And I think the reason why
Speaker 1: is because they don't know how to talk about flat
Speaker 1: Earth except for in defense mode.
Speaker 2: Because like, and then with other flat earthers who already
Speaker 2: believe it, you're like, but you have to be able
Speaker 2: to converse about it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Other flat earthers don't echo chamber it
Speaker 1: to themselves. They don't say the same shit over and
Speaker 1: over again when they're hanging. They just know what's what.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's the same with like globe Earth iss I get it.
Speaker 1: But then I like, whenever I talk about round Earth,
Speaker 1: it's usually like I'm almost comical in nature about it
Speaker 1: because this is a silly premise to talk about. But
Speaker 1: flat earthers go into immediate defense mode. Mikah Dank does
Speaker 1: that same thing with his his premise, which and it's
Speaker 1: not that it's a bad premise and it holds water
Speaker 1: and like it's wonderful to talk about. But it was
Speaker 1: like he was not upset, but he was bummed that.
Speaker 4: He couldn't sway you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't sway me. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: understand that this premise only works in Western astro theology. Right,
Speaker 1: as soon as you bring in the Chinese zodiac, your
Speaker 1: whole premise is shot to shit. Oh well, I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let's not even talk about the Mayans. Let's not talk
Speaker 1: about their star wars worship, like this only works in
Speaker 1: Mediterranean esque.
Speaker 3: Well there's yeah, there's all the different kinds like vedic
Speaker 3: and tropical.
Speaker 1: Right, and his whole premise about how the Bible is
Speaker 1: only seen in the stars and it's only this way.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, that that's busted, like a few time
Speaker 1: zones away from where you're based off of. But anyway,
Speaker 1: but a solid guy. And again, it was a wonderful conversation,
Speaker 1: but it was like having an interview with this person.
Speaker 1: It was like he had a he had a whole
Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentation, he had his shit ready to go, and
Speaker 1: it was amazing. But it was more like a lecture
Speaker 1: style and not a conversation style. And there's there's places
Speaker 1: for both.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I agree that, but my problem is
Speaker 3: and I like how you brought up flat Earth because
Speaker 3: we've had on Dave Weiss.
Speaker 4: I think it's a fucking awesome guy.
Speaker 1: I love him. He's fucking why.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's no room for conversation
Speaker 3: because what he believes, he believes, and if you believe
Speaker 3: any different, then you're an idiot and you can't see it.
Speaker 3: And that kind of conversation isn't going to persuade anybody.
Speaker 3: That kind of conversation doesn't leave any room for thought
Speaker 3: or what ifs or how's it's you believe it or
Speaker 3: you don't, and there is no home between, and that's
Speaker 3: the wrong way to go about anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fundamentalism doesn't do well with me, really. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: like I just I have to have room for wiggle
Speaker 2: room and questioning, And I mean, that's how I came
Speaker 2: to understand my soul in the first place. And like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I knew things were written in stone
Speaker 2: and there was no questions about them at all, would
Speaker 2: have been a lot easier, maybe, But that's just not
Speaker 2: how my brain was trained to work. So I have
Speaker 2: to be able to question it and whatever come to,
Speaker 2: whatever conclusion comes out of that. I had this teacher
Speaker 2: who put it to me. She was a professor at
Speaker 2: my associate's degree, and she was like, you know, we
Speaker 2: did this whole thing about like what is truth? You know,
Speaker 2: and I was like, honestly, truth has to be something
Speaker 2: that is true. Whatever we're saying true is everywhere, all
Speaker 2: of the time, every dimension, every possible perspective, like it's true.
Speaker 2: And she was like that doesn't leave a lot of anything,
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, exactly, like there's very little
Speaker 2: truth right. Everything is actually just perspective and like where
Speaker 2: you're standing from except in my life one thing, which
Speaker 2: is you know, the true source of nature, God, whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call it, and my soul's connection to
Speaker 2: it is the only thing that's always been true from
Speaker 2: every perspective, from every place that I could possibly look
Speaker 2: at it. And that's why my faith is like so
Speaker 2: unshakable in that. But she was like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: however we define truth or whatever at the end of
Speaker 2: this exploration we had in this philosophical discussion in this class,
Speaker 2: she was like, you know, you just, at least at
Speaker 2: the very least, whatever you call true, just hold it
Speaker 2: in one hand and then hold the other hand open
Speaker 2: for the truth that will replace it. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that's like the bet that's have always lived. And this
Speaker 2: was like the best description of it is like I
Speaker 2: can say, for now, this seems true right. If I
Speaker 2: was flattered at or globe birth, I could say like,
Speaker 2: it seems like this, but I don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: So I have this hand open, like what do you
Speaker 2: got for me? Give it to me, and then as
Speaker 2: you give me more and more, I might be like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: it's it's this instead actually and now here's but it
Speaker 2: still could go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I don't I love we think exactly the same way
Speaker 3: I and that's why I always say like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like and I think that I don't know is the
Speaker 3: best answer you could possibly give somebody, and the best
Speaker 3: answer that you could, you know, kind of hold within
Speaker 3: yourself because saying I don't know it accepts all possibilities.
Speaker 3: Because are you trying to tell me that your opinion
Speaker 3: of life is right now and will remain the same
Speaker 3: way until your day of death. Well, why fucking keep
Speaker 3: on living if you already know everything? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: But also to that I don't know isn't always the
Speaker 1: wisest bro Actually, I think we talked about this on
Speaker 1: the show once before. There was like there's four ways
Speaker 1: to ask I don't know, and some of them are good.
Speaker 1: There is the one that's like, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I want to learn, right, the one who's gonna like
Speaker 1: he's saying, I don't know, not out of a place
Speaker 1: of stupidity, out of a place of sheer ignorance. But
Speaker 1: well no, but.
Speaker 3: It's understood that that's what we're talking about. We're saying,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm I'm willing to take in
Speaker 3: all kind of information. I'm willing to shape however it's
Speaker 3: going to take take shape. I'm willing for, you know,
Speaker 3: to include all suggestions.
Speaker 1: No doubt. I'm just saying you got to test that
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if it's a fool saying it,
Speaker 1: then like all right, you don't know because you're you
Speaker 1: don't know because you're dumb and.
Speaker 4: Not the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just like, yeah, go ahead, I don't know.
Speaker 2: With with the added like I do seem to know this.
Speaker 2: This seems true to me. I've studied it immensely and
Speaker 2: I've come to this temporary conclusion. But that sounds stupid
Speaker 2: to people. So this is like the Dunning Kruger thing, Right,
Speaker 2: Dunning Kruger, you guys know it. No, Okay, Dunning Kruger
Speaker 2: were just two social scientists, and they just were looking
Speaker 2: into the perception of intelligence and the response to it.
Speaker 2: And so they found that people perceived anyone who did
Speaker 2: not claim to know for sure, who didn't act brash,
Speaker 2: who didn't say like this and this and this and yes, yes,
Speaker 2: yes and like loudly and surely anyone who didn't act
Speaker 2: like that was stupid, and people who did act like
Speaker 2: that were intelligence. And the truth is they found if
Speaker 2: they measure IQ or do other intelligence types of tests
Speaker 2: right that the people who were like, this is for
Speaker 2: sure and this is what I know and it's this way,
Speaker 2: those people had the lowest IQ's, and the people who
Speaker 2: were like, I'm not sure it might be like this,
Speaker 2: they had the highest IQs. So our perception of intelligence
Speaker 2: is exactly opposite in general from how it is actually
Speaker 2: in reality. And the reason why is the people who
Speaker 2: are less intelligent don't know that they don't know. They're
Speaker 2: not smart enough to understand that they don't know, so
Speaker 2: they think they believe that they're sure that people who
Speaker 2: are not sure are intelligent enough to know that they
Speaker 2: might know a lot, but they don't know everything, and
Speaker 2: so they're like saying, well, I don't know for sure
Speaker 2: that seems stupid, this seems smart. They're actually the opposite.
Speaker 2: And it's super fascinating if you look around, all the
Speaker 2: people who are in charge most of the time in
Speaker 2: most places are not very intelligent because they got there
Speaker 2: because people perceived them to be very intelligent because they
Speaker 2: were brash and short. One of who are super intelligent
Speaker 2: or almost never in charge because no one thinks they're intelligent.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that goes back to like the monkey brain, right,
Speaker 1: because like it's like mob mentality, right, the pit bull
Speaker 1: tactics will work on a large group of people, or
Speaker 1: like a big scare, or like of somebody shouting fire,
Speaker 1: a big group of people will act like animals when
Speaker 1: the time comes, the individual is smart, right, So I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's kind of a thing that humans are
Speaker 1: inherently gonna do. We're gonna follow the one that seems
Speaker 1: the surest because our our lizard brain is telling us,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, he knows what's up. In reality, if
Speaker 1: we would have stopped and thought about it a little bit,
Speaker 1: be like, ah, he's not making a lot of sense, bro.
Speaker 2: Because that well, yeah, and that's the thing too. Not
Speaker 2: everyone falls into this because intelligent people often know that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't trust the loudest person. But you're right, I think,
Speaker 2: because like if you're in the jungle and your a
Speaker 2: gorilla or whatever, you're beating your chest and you're the
Speaker 2: biggest and you're the loudest, you are the most trustworthy.
Speaker 2: Like that's the one who's going to keep you safe.
Speaker 1: That's all of him.
Speaker 2: Right, that's not true anymore, but we still have that
Speaker 2: same mentality seemingly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to have. I played chess a lot,
Speaker 3: and I kind of relate chess to life in this
Speaker 3: certain circumstance in that I'm going I'm you know, whenever
Speaker 3: I play, I play it on the Chess dot Com app,
Speaker 3: which means like I can literally play anybody in the
Speaker 3: world fucking wherever, right, Like it could be fucking Zimbabwe,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Right, Well, the way that they were
Speaker 3: taught chess is going to be differently than the way
Speaker 3: than I was taught taught chess. Right, So if I
Speaker 3: go in there and I think I'm the best fucking
Speaker 3: chess player in the world, and there's not a single
Speaker 3: motherfucker that out there that can beat me, Now, how
Speaker 3: I could say that, Like you know, uh cockishly like
Speaker 3: cocking lee is that I don't even know cocky or
Speaker 3: or you know, I can go up against them he
Speaker 3: does a move that I've never seen before. I could
Speaker 3: either a be in shocked because I thought that I
Speaker 3: knew everything, or be like learn that in that way,
Speaker 3: I'm better prepared next time, still not going into a cocky,
Speaker 3: but still very open to all possibilities that may happen
Speaker 3: that I'm unaware of. And so like that's kind of
Speaker 3: how I play it, like and so I don't really
Speaker 3: even have a specific way that I like to play chess.
Speaker 3: I kind of just fuck with their minds a little
Speaker 3: bit and throw them off, make them think, make them
Speaker 3: think that I'm doing something differently than I than they
Speaker 3: think that I am.
Speaker 4: Kind of deal, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's all just five D.
Speaker 1: Basically, I've been playing it more lately to shit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I fucking hate it. I've been playing more lately, and
Speaker 1: every now and then I'll pull some gangster shit, right,
Speaker 1: I will pull off something I was like, I'll even
Speaker 1: be like impressed with myself that I pulled off this
Speaker 1: move to get a checkmate. However, the very next game
Speaker 1: that I play, I will get so outmatched in six
Speaker 1: moves into the game, and I'm just like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I thought that about it.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what happened, right right.
Speaker 2: Right, Like my method of playing chess is like I
Speaker 2: know that this piece moves this far, and I'll move
Speaker 2: it here. Like I don't have any plan. I never have.
Speaker 2: When I was young, I had this neighbor and he
Speaker 2: was paraplegic. He actually was in the Olympics and he
Speaker 2: had gone off the high jump that's a run that
Speaker 2: you go super deep, down and far and then you
Speaker 2: fly right. Yeah, he was on that in the Olympics
Speaker 2: and whatever black and white photograph times, and he broke
Speaker 2: his legs or his spine or whatever he could. He
Speaker 2: was in a wheelchair. So he he was rad though,
Speaker 2: because I lived just down the street from him, and
Speaker 2: you know, he had this big, huge barn. It had
Speaker 2: all this hay in it. He had cows and all
Speaker 2: the stuff, pigs, and he had apple trees. We could
Speaker 2: come get apples whenever you wanted. And he had pinball
Speaker 2: machines and foodsball machines and all this shit out in
Speaker 2: his barn. Because for some reason, being paraplegic. People gave
Speaker 2: him like old shuffleboards, a chat I don't know. He
Speaker 2: had all this cool shit. So he's super fun to
Speaker 2: hang out his house and he would teach me chess,
Speaker 2: and he just like made my ego so big. He's like,
Speaker 2: why you're so good at chess? You beat me all
Speaker 2: the time. And I was like, man, I'm crazy good
Speaker 2: at chess. But you know, once I was like older,
Speaker 2: at a teenage or whatever, I was like, oh, he
Speaker 2: was just fucking with Like I was never good at chess, Okay,
Speaker 2: he just made me think that, so I would keep trying, right, yeah, just.
Speaker 3: Playing, just playing chess, even before the chessboard dude, like
Speaker 3: before the fucking first piece is even laid out.
Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude.
Speaker 1: You know a game I want to learn how it plays? Go?
Speaker 1: It even pre dates chess.
Speaker 3: I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's like chess and about strategy and all of
Speaker 1: that and figuring things out.
Speaker 3: But uh, especially it's a really difficult game. But they
Speaker 3: taught AI how to beat it like super quick.
Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah I saw that. Yeah, it was like not
Speaker 2: that long ago that it finally beat like the best
Speaker 2: player in the world. Supposedly or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like super quick too, dude?
Speaker 1: Has he played? Has Ai played chess against like the ultimate? Oh, dude,
Speaker 1: what's his name? Not Metatron? Is it? What's his name?
Speaker 1: It's something like that. I don't even know megaladon Metropolis,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking.
Speaker 4: Know, something along those lines.
Speaker 3: But I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: Daddy of chess who quit. Not because he was dethroned.
Speaker 1: He literally got to the top and got bored and said,
Speaker 1: I'm out this bitch.
Speaker 2: No one can beat me. You guys, ever watched Samurai?
Speaker 2: Not Samurai, Champloo, Space cow Boy? What is the name
Speaker 2: of anime?
Speaker 1: Not Cowboy Bebop?
Speaker 2: Cowboy Bebop? Yeah, one of those episodes? Or is that?
Speaker 2: Chess player is like all he wanted? He was like
Speaker 2: this mastermind. He set up all these criminal like things,
Speaker 2: all interstellar like traps and whatever in heists, and all
Speaker 2: he really wanted was a good chess player. He ended
Speaker 2: up playing ed Hi, you are slightly only really good anime.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go down the list here. Let's see
Speaker 1: if you're about all that. All that pollution is here?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: How o g not very give me like a year.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you a list of every anime I've ever watched,
Speaker 2: and it was not that long.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, start with, like the first anime
Speaker 1: you like actually got into, and I'll start from that basis.
Speaker 2: First. Unfortunately, unfortunately, the first one I ever watched was
Speaker 2: Bleach and I only watched the episode. Someone had a
Speaker 2: list of the ones to skip, you know, So I
Speaker 2: just watched like the main actual arcs and it was okay,
Speaker 2: it was pretty good. Yeah. And then and then I
Speaker 2: did Steinsgate. Okay, I fucking love Seinsgate is great. And
Speaker 2: then I did Uh Samui, Champloo, Cowboy Bebop and excellent Avatar.
Speaker 2: I don't think Avatar counts, but I.
Speaker 1: Love Avatar gets it by default.
Speaker 2: Avatar is particularly animated, but it's not Japanese.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not true anime, but it gets its
Speaker 1: own honorable mention that like animes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Good Dragon ball Z. I was like, no, no, uh
Speaker 1: Full Metal Alchemists, Oh yeah, full is one of them.
Speaker 1: Two Okay, Uh bizarve that? Nope, okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: You guys are fucking dorks. True, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I just never really got into it.
Speaker 1: We could roll with it. We've been having a pre
Speaker 1: show for almost twenty minutes. We do have to start.
Speaker 4: I think that's like the longest.
Speaker 3: Pre show we ever had.
Speaker 1: It was a good one, though.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's parts of it that go in the show.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 1: Well that takes editing. Magic, that's up to this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I editing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We're doing fucking five shows a week now, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my life is already editing. I'm having to edit
Speaker 3: my life to make time for all these shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Anyway, all right, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Okay, hello, and welcome to the show. This is the
Speaker 3: Cult of Conspiracy, and my name's Jonathan Jacob and as promised,
Speaker 3: we are bringing back Lindsay Sharman of Rogueways.
Speaker 4: How you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm so good. It's nice to be here again with
Speaker 2: you guys. The last time I was on, so many
Speaker 2: of your audience reached out to me for help with
Speaker 2: parasites and more so, I'm glad you could come back
Speaker 2: and maybe round things out for everyone.
Speaker 3: Definitely, And there's there's a lot of things that I'm
Speaker 3: sure we could have. You know, Divin Doven, dove into,
Speaker 3: Dove into a little bit more so that we can
Speaker 3: kind of get a little bit more details and a
Speaker 3: better understanding of everything. We kind of covered a broad
Speaker 3: range of things last time. This show, righty here is
Speaker 3: going to be strictly into the nitty gritty of parasites,
Speaker 3: how to get rid of them, you know, what to
Speaker 3: do with them.
Speaker 4: So I guess where do we start with this?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's important to first say that, like,
Speaker 2: everyone has parasites all of the time, but it's not
Speaker 2: that big of a deal, and that humans are designed
Speaker 2: to get rid of parasites because parasites exist in our environment.
Speaker 2: They always have. They've always been on meat, on vegetables,
Speaker 2: on you know, you pick produce and maybe you don't
Speaker 2: completely sterilize it, you eat it, there's like a little
Speaker 2: parasite egg in it. Who knows their microscopic sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the time. So we get parasites and
Speaker 2: we get rid of them, and that is just what humans.
Speaker 2: That's what animals do. It's what humans do when we're healthy,
Speaker 2: that's what happens. Unfortunately, we're in a time in our
Speaker 2: history that is not healthy, and most people are not well,
Speaker 2: and so our bodies have a harder and harder time
Speaker 2: getting rid of parasites. So if you're an especially healthy person,
Speaker 2: you probably don't have a problem with the parasites that
Speaker 2: are moving through you at various times in your life. Right,
Speaker 2: That is just what your body's designed to do. But
Speaker 2: we've got poison in our water, We've got poison raining
Speaker 2: down on us from above. We've got poison in our food.
Speaker 2: Even if we're growing organic. The soil's been sprayed for
Speaker 2: how long or what happened to it before that person
Speaker 2: who's farming got there. You know, who knows what's in
Speaker 2: the water. It's raining down when things like the Ohio
Speaker 2: disaster happen. There's just toxins everywhere in this world. And
Speaker 2: I also don't want to scare people about that because
Speaker 2: our body also is made to get rid of toxins.
Speaker 2: Like our body was designed by whoever you want to
Speaker 2: feel like, designed us to do this perfect job of
Speaker 2: keeping us healthy, and its genius level design. And so
Speaker 2: you know, we are saturated with these toxins and everything
Speaker 2: we seem to consume, and we do have parasites coming
Speaker 2: through us, but our body is literally made to handle that,
Speaker 2: and all of us can live in a way that
Speaker 2: supports our body's ability to get rid of toxins and parasites,
Speaker 2: and that two really go hand in hand. They can't
Speaker 2: be separated. Right, If you have parasites that have taken
Speaker 2: root in your system, it's because you have a toxic system,
Speaker 2: and if you have a toxic system, you're going to
Speaker 2: have parasites take root in your system. That's all there
Speaker 2: is to it, until you can throw in.
Speaker 1: To your point, humans also have the ability to adapt
Speaker 1: to parasites. They're in their environment. Very so if anybody's
Speaker 1: ever taken a trip to Mexico, there's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: The people in Mexico have no problem drinking the water there,
Speaker 1: but Americans have problems drinking the water there. Why now
Speaker 1: we know it is because of parasite. That is like
Speaker 1: a understood fact. However, they have built an adaptation to it.
Speaker 1: They have in a sense evolved, if you want to
Speaker 1: go that route with it. I don't agree with Charles
Speaker 1: Dorwin in a lot of things, but for this principle.
Speaker 1: For that so we for whatever parasites you may have
Speaker 1: going through your body, we may have just adapted to them.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they're not present.
Speaker 2: So to your point, yeah, it's very very true. And
Speaker 2: I'm going to also throw imbalanced bacteria into this pile
Speaker 2: as well. So when we're saying parasites, let's just know
Speaker 2: that we're also including things like overgrown yeast and small
Speaker 2: intestinal bacterial overgrowth and these types of biosis in our
Speaker 2: dis BIOSes in our guts that are also affecting us negatively.
Speaker 2: So we'll just call them all parasites just for ease
Speaker 2: of the conversation, because they're all going to be affecting
Speaker 2: us in the similar ways and they're all going to
Speaker 2: be cleared out in similar ways as well. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting because there are scientists. If you go looking
Speaker 2: at the literature, you can find these studies where some
Speaker 2: scientists will say, well, because we've you know, come up with,
Speaker 2: or evolved with, or whatever you want to call parasites
Speaker 2: in our environment, there are some parasites that are good
Speaker 2: for us, they say, and when you start removing them
Speaker 2: from the system, you start seeing things like allergies and illness.
Speaker 2: And their idea is that's because you actually need this parasite,
Speaker 2: almost like a symbiotic relationship. But I will just say
Speaker 2: if it was a symbiotic relationship, we wouldn't call it
Speaker 2: a parasite. Parasites aren't symbiotic parasites or parasites. Parasites feed
Speaker 2: off of their hosts and take things the host needs
Speaker 2: in order to live, and it is damaging to the host.
Speaker 2: So I think these scientists are misguided, and I'm not
Speaker 2: a scientist. People can agree with me or not, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to be. But in my understanding, what they're seeing
Speaker 2: when they remove the parasites and they seem to see
Speaker 2: allergy or other sorts of illness strike this person who's
Speaker 2: just had their parasites removed is what we call the
Speaker 2: Herkshimer effect or the cleansing effect, right, which is that
Speaker 2: when you start to remove things that have been holding
Speaker 2: you back for a while, your body can suddenly release
Speaker 2: a lot of toxins that it was holding on too.
Speaker 2: And if you don't allow those to clear from your system,
Speaker 2: then it will cause you to feel sick and have
Speaker 2: this maybe allergic looking or illness looking type of reaction.
Speaker 2: But all you have to do allow your system to
Speaker 2: clear those out and release those toxins, and that doesn't
Speaker 2: happen either. So I don't think those scientists, most often doctors,
Speaker 2: most often a medical professionals most often don't recognize the
Speaker 2: herkshimmer effect or the cleansing effect. We can call it
Speaker 2: as a I guess real effect. I mean they don't
Speaker 2: understand it. And this also goes to another thing that
Speaker 2: we are going to talk about today, which is you
Speaker 2: know that most people are constipated severely, and by severely,
Speaker 2: I mean there is stuff in there intestines that has
Speaker 2: probably been in there for decades, and that surprises a
Speaker 2: lot of people. But you think about this. If you
Speaker 2: go to the healthiest people, let's say they're like in
Speaker 2: maybe the Amazon jungle, right and they're like barefoot on
Speaker 2: the earth, like eating what they find and living around
Speaker 2: a campfire. Those people will usually have maybe three vowel
Speaker 2: movements a day or so. And when they do have
Speaker 2: a vowel of movement, it doesn't take them time. It's
Speaker 2: no strain and it comes out in case in like
Speaker 2: a sort of let's just call it like a goo,
Speaker 2: right like, because it's just easily just coming right out
Speaker 2: and then it's just gone and now we move on
Speaker 2: with life. We don't have that experience in modern life, right,
Speaker 2: people spend time in the bathroom, they're often straining. It
Speaker 2: definitely does not come out with this nice plasma cover
Speaker 2: on it that helps it just move right through. And
Speaker 2: it's most people, it's not happening three times a day.
Speaker 2: Some people it's not happening once a day, and that
Speaker 2: means that you're constipated, and so it doesn't constipation doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be this like strenuous like strain. That's like
Speaker 2: extreme acute constipation. But there is this long, long term
Speaker 2: I guess you could say, like low level constipation that
Speaker 2: everybody has a very few people don't have this level
Speaker 2: of constipation. So that's why you get the HRK Simmer effect,
Speaker 2: that's why you get the cleansing effect. Anytime you make
Speaker 2: adjustments to your life that push you towards healthy, you
Speaker 2: get some of that. Usually most people can relate to that.
Speaker 2: It's because they're dumping toxin suddenly, but it's not coming
Speaker 2: out easily. It's got got to come out in your sweat,
Speaker 2: your peet, or your poop. Your body has very few
Speaker 2: ways to get rid of stuff, and those are the
Speaker 2: main ones. So if you're not doing those things frequently,
Speaker 2: correctly and in the right balance, you're holding on to
Speaker 2: all these toxins.
Speaker 3: So I'm somebody that I believe that. To give you
Speaker 3: an example real quick of something of where I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get to, so I was sent a video by
Speaker 3: a cult member on Instagram and it was basically it's
Speaker 3: called the light bulb theory.
Speaker 4: Have you heard of this?
Speaker 3: That essentially what happened is is like back in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen hundreds, like nineteen oh one, nineteen oh two,
Speaker 3: somewhere in there, it's.
Speaker 1: The light that's still on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they used to have light bulbs that would
Speaker 3: just literally last forever. And it's the same for the
Speaker 3: car industry and all that. We know that they they're
Speaker 3: capable of making fucking cars that last longer than fifteen years.
Speaker 4: Let's just be real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's the same thing is that, you know,
Speaker 3: the the light bulb companies, whoever they were, maybe it
Speaker 3: was g E this one was, but they made a
Speaker 3: light bulb that was lasting forever, and they sold it
Speaker 3: as that, like it's almost like a warranty here, this
Speaker 3: light bulb is gonna last forever, so definitely buy this.
Speaker 3: You're never gonna have to buy another one. Well, the
Speaker 3: problem is is that obviously in a consumer driven market,
Speaker 3: you know you're not going to be making a lot
Speaker 3: of money off of that, because you're not gonna have
Speaker 3: a lot of repeat customers. Why would you if you
Speaker 3: have something to last forever. Well, the same thing goes
Speaker 3: and well, let me just go back. So what they
Speaker 3: did was is that, according to this theory, all of
Speaker 3: the light bulb makers, they all got together. They said, look,
Speaker 3: we all want a little piece of this market. We
Speaker 3: know lights are going to be a very vital, you
Speaker 3: know thing moving forward into the future and so on
Speaker 3: and all the things that are going to be coming
Speaker 3: from light bulbs and the spark and everything else like that.
Speaker 3: So what they did was they all came together and said, look,
Speaker 3: we're all going to make all these different companies, but
Speaker 3: let's let's pump the brakes on this hundred year bullshit
Speaker 3: that you've been running. So we're gonna make them last
Speaker 3: for a couple of months. That way, the people are
Speaker 3: still going to be able to use them. They're still
Speaker 3: they're still going to buy them, but it keeps money
Speaker 3: coming into our pockets. We know people are always gonna
Speaker 3: need light bulbs, And how I relate that to what
Speaker 3: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I would love to see the connection you're about to move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So how I relate that, and and a
Speaker 3: lot of cult members with their third eye all the
Speaker 3: way open, we'll be able to understand where I'm coming
Speaker 3: through with this, and that is is that, well, first
Speaker 3: of all, you know, I know that doctors and nurses,
Speaker 3: I know that they're all most of them are probably
Speaker 3: really really great, intelligent, smart, like want to do the
Speaker 3: right thing kind of people, right, but they're only they
Speaker 3: only know what they've been taught. And now you know,
Speaker 3: you get into well who you know, you can you can,
Speaker 3: you can teach somebody something, but if if you're teaching
Speaker 3: them the wrong way or a slightly less good way,
Speaker 3: then they're never going to really know the true way.
Speaker 3: And so a lot of people will say, well, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, like this this day and age, the advancement,
Speaker 3: you know, as far as technology and and and all
Speaker 3: of the medical you know, instruments and everything, we're able
Speaker 3: to live longer than we ever have. Well, if that
Speaker 3: was true, you know, it would be evident. But it's not,
Speaker 3: you know, And so where that really gets to is
Speaker 3: is that I'm somebody that I believe that wisdom has
Speaker 3: been slowly, slowly, slowly lost over the years, that everybody
Speaker 3: thinks that we're so much smarter, we have so much
Speaker 3: more knowledge and everything we're not. It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 3: It's a trickle down until we know, fucking like literally
Speaker 3: Jack Squatt. And take it back to the CIA guy
Speaker 3: you know in the eighties who said that, you know,
Speaker 3: we will know that like our evil plan has come
Speaker 3: to fruition whenever the American everything the American people know
Speaker 3: is absolute horseshit. And where I take that is is
Speaker 3: that if they're fucking out there and they're trying to
Speaker 3: limit the lifespan of humanity, you wouldn't kill them all
Speaker 3: at once. You wouldn't just drop a nuke. No, no,
Speaker 3: because we need their trust, we.
Speaker 4: Need their love.
Speaker 3: They tax dollars, we need their work, dollarge for the
Speaker 3: fucking slaves that they are. Yeah, all right, So what
Speaker 3: you do is is that you say, all right, here's
Speaker 3: here's the plan.
Speaker 4: We're not gonna kill all of you.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna slowly kill all of you, and and
Speaker 3: do it in very numerous type ways. So whenever you
Speaker 3: get into and how you were talking about, you know,
Speaker 3: the the shit that gets all up in us constipation,
Speaker 3: they constipation everything else, the symbiotic relationship that we form
Speaker 3: with whatever kind of bacteria. And they're saying, well, we
Speaker 3: need it, well, according to them, they do, according to them,
Speaker 3: like we all need it, right.
Speaker 1: I hear you, bro, And I'm actually kind of glad
Speaker 1: you brought that connection up in the way that you did.
Speaker 1: I was you kind of lost me on the light bulb,
Speaker 1: but then you brought it back as you do. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this now you're saying, and I'm
Speaker 1: very much open to all sides of this argument. I
Speaker 1: see valid on all sides. Now to say that the
Speaker 1: people living in the in the Amazon, for instance, right,
Speaker 1: these people who are pretty much is in tune with
Speaker 1: nature as a human being could possibly be. They are
Speaker 1: untouched by the modern world. Okay, Now you say that
Speaker 1: they have a better overall health than us. Now I
Speaker 1: don't know this. I have not looked at the studies
Speaker 1: I've seen, but I mean, I actually don't know the
Speaker 1: validity of any of them. So I can't say one
Speaker 1: way or the other. Now, I'm not saying that they
Speaker 1: don't live very long lives. These people may be living
Speaker 1: into their late eighties, they may be dying in their fifties,
Speaker 1: but like that's their lifespan, I don't know. But I
Speaker 1: also and again sickness is not a thing for these
Speaker 1: people because most of them are nomadic and they go
Speaker 1: with the whatever whatever. I get it. But who is
Speaker 1: to say who is living better or worse? Now? I
Speaker 1: am not. Obviously, modernity comes with its faults, and we
Speaker 1: could go down the long list of reasons why living
Speaker 1: with electricity and a cell phone in your pocket is
Speaker 1: going to slowly kill you over a thousand you know,
Speaker 1: I get it, get it. But to say that these
Speaker 1: people who also literally if they break their arm, that
Speaker 1: might be the death of them, like a sniffle might
Speaker 1: just kill the whole village. Like who's to say who's
Speaker 1: actually living better or worse now? Also to your point
Speaker 1: about their bowel movements, then that also goes to do
Speaker 1: with their diet, because we can have that if we
Speaker 1: were to eat smaller meals throughout the day rather than
Speaker 1: three big meals as we have been taught and so
Speaker 1: custom to do, if we and we actually get higher
Speaker 1: work per volume doing that, As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: I would say they generally. So let's just say you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right about the breaking your arm thing, and this
Speaker 2: is actually what I love allopathic modern medicine for is like,
Speaker 2: if you get your head slammed by something, you break
Speaker 2: an arm, you've got a sudden trauma to your gut. Like,
Speaker 2: these people are going to be the ones who save
Speaker 2: your life. And that's what you could probably trust them with.
Speaker 2: Almost everything else, they've proven that they have no fucking
Speaker 2: clue what to do about it, and all they can
Speaker 2: do is throw a pill at you, and the pills
Speaker 2: almost never make you better, and then they sometimes make
Speaker 2: you worse. Also, a lot of the surgeries they describe
Speaker 2: two for people who have like slip discs or other
Speaker 2: things with their spines. Like do you look at the
Speaker 2: literature again, it's like two thirds of the people who
Speaker 2: get the surgery and up worse. But they still keep
Speaker 2: doing the surgery and they're like, well, this is the
Speaker 2: only thing we got for you, let's try it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, I'm so desperate, my back hurt's
Speaker 2: so bad. And you get the surgery and then you're like,
Speaker 2: my back hurt's worse. Now they're like, well, sorry, I
Speaker 2: mean you can't undo the surgery. Right. So there are
Speaker 2: a lot of things that that they're good at, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that they're not at all
Speaker 2: good at, but they're stuck in the mentality that there's
Speaker 2: a surgery or a pill for anything. And you know,
Speaker 2: so this is the story of me. I grew up,
Speaker 2: you know, and I slowly developed this autoimmune syndrome and
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I had it. The first time
Speaker 2: auto mune mentioned was mentioned to me was when I
Speaker 2: was like eleven. But no one said, like, you have
Speaker 2: an autoimmune disease. They just said, oh, you're having an
Speaker 2: autoimmune like reaction and we don't know why, and it
Speaker 2: just happened. Sometimes it will be fine, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of fine.
Speaker 1: I just went on, but that's like saying, you're having
Speaker 1: strip like symptoms. It's probably not strap but having right right,
Speaker 1: you're having a going bald. Oh you're showing alpcia style symptoms,
Speaker 1: but it's probably not Wait what that what that means?
Speaker 2: Bro? Yeah? So and no one cared, like it's it's
Speaker 2: just not something that anyone took the time to look
Speaker 2: deeper into or wonder why that might be happening. And
Speaker 2: they just said, you know, try to notice what's causing
Speaker 2: it and then stay away those things. And the thing
Speaker 2: was anything could cause it. Anything could cause it. It could
Speaker 2: be a soap one day, and then that same soap
Speaker 2: wouldn't another day, but then a bug bite would one day,
Speaker 2: and then something else, and like it could because I
Speaker 2: just touched my arm and all of a sudden it's
Speaker 2: covered in welts, and it's like, well, what I mean?
Speaker 2: There was never rhyme or reason to it until I
Speaker 2: actually discovered the book by the medical medium. His name
Speaker 2: is Anthony, I forget his last name, but the medical medium.
Speaker 2: You'd find him if you went looking, and he, you know,
Speaker 2: supposedly channels some entity that's a medical kind compassion. I
Speaker 2: think he calls it the Spirit of Compassion, but it's
Speaker 2: like a medical entity. And I don't ever claim to
Speaker 2: know if someone's actually channeling or not. I don't really care.
Speaker 2: I read his book anyway, because I went to the
Speaker 2: doctor one day and now I had formerly been diagnosed
Speaker 2: with autoimmune for years. This is like thirty years after
Speaker 2: the first time I heard it mentioned I had been
Speaker 2: possibly rheumatoid arthritis and possibly you know, lupas and possibly
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And then one day they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's hashimotos thyroiditis. Now you have this you know name
Speaker 2: attached to it. This is your diagnosis. Here's some pills.
Speaker 2: You're done now. Took the pills, kind of felt better
Speaker 2: for a minute, and then started feeling worse. And then
Speaker 2: four years go by and now I feel really bad.
Speaker 2: I'm on the couch most of the time. I don't
Speaker 2: have my life like I normally do. My brain is
Speaker 2: so foggy I can't think. I mean, I'm someone who
Speaker 2: is pretty intelligent, written many books. You know, I'm a
Speaker 2: very active person. I do a lot. I like doing
Speaker 2: a lot. It feels good to me to get things done.
Speaker 2: I enjoy the things. I'm a happy person. But I
Speaker 2: was crying on the couch for days at a time,
Speaker 2: unable to think. Someone asked me my phone number one day.
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell them. I had no idea what my phone
Speaker 2: number was. Doesn't even make sense. I didn't know my
Speaker 2: own phone number. So I went back to the doctor again.
Speaker 2: I was like, look, I think I need a higher
Speaker 2: level of medication or something. And she said to me,
Speaker 2: we actually have to reduce your medication because your labs
Speaker 2: just came back and your cholesterol is getting high and
Speaker 2: that could be dangerous for your heart. And this medication
Speaker 2: is known to cause that, so we have to reduce it.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, okay, like, yeah, I don't want
Speaker 2: to mess my heart up. But what am I supposed
Speaker 2: to do then? Because my symptoms are getting really bad?
Speaker 2: And I just like, I am laying on the couch
Speaker 2: crying a lot, and I can't live my life like this.
Speaker 2: And she said, unfortunately, there's nothing we can do. And
Speaker 2: I said what, I'm forty, Like, what do you mean
Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do. Am I supposed to lay
Speaker 2: on the couch and cry for the rest of my life?
Speaker 2: And She's like, you know a lot of times the
Speaker 2: symptoms just get worse until you die.
Speaker 1: And I was like, my god, God, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll just go fuck myself real quick.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2: Here, hopelessness, Like, what are you saying to me right now?
Speaker 2: And I said to her, well, I have heard that
Speaker 2: some people with this condition have changed their diet and
Speaker 2: that might help them. Do you think I should do that?
Speaker 2: She said, there's no evidence that that would help.
Speaker 3: You, and I changing your diet and getting healthier would
Speaker 3: help you at all.
Speaker 1: What that's crazy, dude.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Solacky left there going well, hey, I'm never
Speaker 2: going back to the doctor again. There's no point. Clearly
Speaker 2: like they're not willing to help me, they have no
Speaker 2: idea how to help me, and I have to find something.
Speaker 2: So I found someone sent me in this direction. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how, some synchronousy or another. And I
Speaker 2: was like, fine, I'll read this weird medical channeling book.
Speaker 2: And I read it, and again, who cares if he's
Speaker 2: channeling or not. What he did was in the first
Speaker 2: chapter laid out my entire life for me. He said,
Speaker 2: you probably had some event you don't remember, but you
Speaker 2: were probably with scarlet fever. What's the kissing disease mono mono? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's some other really normal one. Yeah. And he's like,
Speaker 2: you probably got that when you were a kid and
Speaker 2: you were really, really sick, maybe for a while. And
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, I did have scarlet fever when
Speaker 2: I was like nine years old. And he's like, and
Speaker 2: sometimes shortly after that, you probably started having rashes or
Speaker 2: just what they called allergies. And I was like, that's
Speaker 2: exactly when that doctor said you have autoimmune like responses.
Speaker 2: I started getting rashes and wells. He's like, sometime later,
Speaker 2: probably at a very stressful time in your life, you
Speaker 2: developed something which they then gave you a much scarier
Speaker 2: diagnosis for, or it at least looked like a much
Speaker 2: scarier autoimmune disease. And I was like, yeah, I one
Speaker 2: day and I was just after I had been abducted
Speaker 2: by a man and dragged down the street, one of
Speaker 2: the most terrifying and stressful things in my life, right,
Speaker 2: so very stressful time. He nailed it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2: Was his own crazy story. So I got away and
Speaker 2: I was okay, but for a while I didn't think
Speaker 2: I was going to get away, and it was the
Speaker 2: most terrifying thing. So I had some PTSD about that
Speaker 2: very stressful time right after that happened. Within days of
Speaker 2: it happening, my ankles, my knees, and my hips swoll
Speaker 2: up to like watermelon size and I couldn't move for
Speaker 2: three days. Yeah, and I and so I went and
Speaker 2: I couldn't move, So I didn't go to the doctor
Speaker 2: during that, But as soon as I could move, I
Speaker 2: went to the doctor and I was like, I like,
Speaker 2: what is happening my body? And he was like, it
Speaker 2: sounds like rheumatoid arthritis, but we won't know because we
Speaker 2: can't test you because you're not in the flare up
Speaker 2: right now. But next time you have al come in,
Speaker 2: we'll test you. You probably have rheumatoid arthritis. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's really.
Speaker 1: Bad, right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's like, and so then again I'm leading
Speaker 2: his book, and he's like, and then again, something str
Speaker 2: what happened in your life and you probably had another
Speaker 2: flare up. It might have even looked like a completely
Speaker 2: different autommune condition at this current moment, I'm not remembering
Speaker 2: exactly what it was, but that's that happened too. He's like,
Speaker 2: and eventually you probably, if you didn't already, get a
Speaker 2: fully this is your disease. And mine was the thyroiditis again,
Speaker 2: Hashi Boda cybroiditis. I finally got diagnosed. I think I
Speaker 2: was like thirty seven or so, thirty eight, who knows
Speaker 2: thirty six? So yeah, he described my whole life to me.
Speaker 2: He's like, and now, if you've made it this far,
Speaker 2: this is a late stage infection that's been going on
Speaker 2: since your childhood, and if it gets to your thyroid
Speaker 2: or higher, you're in like the end stages. And what
Speaker 2: happens after that is people get cancer and then they die,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, because that's what
Speaker 2: I felt like. I was like, I'm dying and no
Speaker 2: one cares. I can't move, I can't think, I can't
Speaker 2: live my life and no one cares. So my story
Speaker 2: might be a bit past most people's, like, it's a
Speaker 2: bit more extreme. Not many people are in this late
Speaker 2: stage of disease, right, Not many people have been abandoned
Speaker 2: by their doctors, but a lot of people have. In fact,
Speaker 2: a lot of your audience that reached out to me
Speaker 2: was in that state, and that you know, they're in
Speaker 2: the point where they're like, I don't know, no one
Speaker 2: can help me? Can I just try anything? Like please
Speaker 2: help me? And I'm like, yeah, let's all try this.
Speaker 2: So this whole process led be again to abandon my
Speaker 2: doctors because there's no point to them, right, and to
Speaker 2: find out like, well, what is it then that will help?
Speaker 2: And this Anthony guy started me on some of the
Speaker 2: right tracks. And what he sent me on was this
Speaker 2: journey where at the very least, you're trying to get
Speaker 2: these high density nutrients into you because your body is
Speaker 2: in a late stage of disease and your body works
Speaker 2: on nutrients and it needs the nutrients to heal itself, right,
Speaker 2: so you're trying to heal yourself. And he also he
Speaker 2: doesn't emphasize it as much as I think it would
Speaker 2: be nice too. But he started talking about, like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's also good to maybe fast a little sometimes and
Speaker 2: also open up some of your detox pathways. It was
Speaker 2: other people synchronistically again who were like, you need to
Speaker 2: start doing animas, like you have to open your detox
Speaker 2: pathways way more than they are right now, and you're
Speaker 2: probably super constipated. Luckily, many years before, I had gone
Speaker 2: to a colon hydro therapist at the urging of somebody,
Speaker 2: and this colon hydro therapist was like fifty five, I
Speaker 2: want to say. And when I first went to her,
Speaker 2: super unsure about like why I'm even doing this. Colon
Speaker 2: hydro therapy, by the way, is like a professional level
Speaker 2: anema you get from a person in like an office setting,
Speaker 2: and uh, I was super unsure and she's like, well,
Speaker 2: let me just show you this. How old do you
Speaker 2: think I am? And I'm like, I don't know, like
Speaker 2: my age, like you're probably like thirty a little older
Speaker 2: than me, thirty something, you know, I was in my
Speaker 2: late twenties. She's like, no, I'm fifty five. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the wow? What She's like, Yeah, this is what
Speaker 2: colon hydro therapy does for you because your body is
Speaker 2: actually almost an eternal youth machine. I mean, you're going
Speaker 2: to get old and dive actually right. But like in
Speaker 2: the meantime, we think people should look so old and
Speaker 2: so beat up and so sick, because that's what our
Speaker 2: society is. It's a sick, beat up society. So people
Speaker 2: who are forty to us like, they're like so old.
Speaker 2: But when you're forty, I'm forty two this year, I think,
Speaker 2: and I don't think I look forty two.
Speaker 1: No, I want to say thirty two.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. You were You might put it
Speaker 2: a little higher, but no, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're around our age. Yeah yeah, low thirties.
Speaker 2: Thank you. And that's because I think I've been on
Speaker 2: this severe healing journey since I realized that I'm either
Speaker 2: going to die of this slowly and in pain, or
Speaker 2: I'm going to heal myself because no one else is
Speaker 2: going to do it for me. So I've been like
Speaker 2: working really hard to reset this.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you something semi off topic, but I
Speaker 1: actually feel like you've dabbled in this before. What is
Speaker 1: your opinion of kretom.
Speaker 2: I've only used it once because I have also chronic
Speaker 2: pain because I have a severe scoliosis. I had severe
Speaker 2: surgery on it when I was sixteen, which is a
Speaker 2: totally separate issue in my life. But because of my
Speaker 2: chronic pain, I've used all of the pain meds in
Speaker 2: the world, and I don't like they make me sick now,
Speaker 2: maybe be partially because of auto and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I bar when I take any kind of opiates. So
Speaker 2: for pain management, I tried Creative and it did nothing
Speaker 2: for me, really nothing. I don't know why. I just
Speaker 2: no effect. I was like, well, this is a really
Speaker 2: pointless thing to do.
Speaker 4: Then, oh okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: We had a woman on the show before and she
Speaker 3: was kind of like diving into all the effects of
Speaker 3: kreatom and how the government is trying to make it
Speaker 3: seem like it's just this you know, big bad like
Speaker 3: gas station, heroin or whatever, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: are coming out and saying like, look like I've been
Speaker 3: taking it. It helps me get through the day. I
Speaker 3: no longer feel like an addict. I can drive to work,
Speaker 3: I can do my job, and then you got you know,
Speaker 3: other people on the other side that are like no, no,
Speaker 3: like that's that's bullshit. And so we're you know, we
Speaker 3: remain open minded. We take all kinds of information and everything.
Speaker 1: So you with the pain that you've had, and because
Speaker 1: you've like loops at one point and all of this,
Speaker 1: I knew it at least you've tried it. So I
Speaker 1: was very curious with you because you're very holistic. What
Speaker 1: is your opinion of Creatom? You say for yourself it
Speaker 1: did nothing, But do you have an issue with it?
Speaker 1: Are you pro against where you at with it?
Speaker 2: I'd say, you know, in the end, everyone should take
Speaker 2: whatever it is that's working for them and helping them
Speaker 2: get healthy year. So if you're going especially off of
Speaker 2: like an opiate addiction, and Creative's helping you, like by
Speaker 2: all means, do it. If you're in this really severe
Speaker 2: pain and you don't want to take pharmaceuticals like use Kreatum,
Speaker 2: I would also say that this is something that no
Speaker 2: one's going to tell you, but it is absolutely true,
Speaker 2: which is that you can relieve yourself of any level
Speaker 2: of chronic pain through being vital and healthy as well.
Speaker 2: And you don't need creative to do that. So I
Speaker 2: think you should take it and till you don't, but
Speaker 2: I think you should give yourself the chance to understand that,
Speaker 2: like you don't need it forever. And I don't have
Speaker 2: chronic pain anymore. I don't have it, I have no
Speaker 2: I very rarely have pain now. Went from chronic my
Speaker 2: whole life to no pain now. And that's and that's
Speaker 2: something again, nobody's going to tell you as possible. Nobody's
Speaker 2: going to tell you can heal yourself from cancer. Nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna tell you can heal yourself from autoimmune disease. People
Speaker 2: pretend like autoimmune disease is a forever sent it's not.
Speaker 2: I'm here to I have now been off my medication
Speaker 2: for years, and I am better than I was before
Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with hashimotives.
Speaker 3: I mean, so Magic Johnson is still around.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but that's good cure for HIV. Is money?
Speaker 1: South Park said, So Bro's.
Speaker 2: Probably it's probably blood transfusions from his blood boys.
Speaker 1: But it's blood with liquid money, is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: Well here's another thing then, So there's all these rich
Speaker 2: people like him who will will buy these blood transfusions
Speaker 2: get these blood boys, keep them healthy, get their plasma
Speaker 2: or whatever. And they'll also pay top dollar for We're
Speaker 2: not even getting into adrenochrome. Right, this is the legal
Speaker 2: on the bookshit. They also pay top dollar for human
Speaker 2: growth hormone. Right, Well, you can create a human growth
Speaker 2: hormone for yourself for free, just by fasting for more
Speaker 2: than like fifteen hours. Yeah, that's it, and you get
Speaker 2: human growth herd. Yes. So another reason why I probably
Speaker 2: look younger than I am to most people is because
Speaker 2: I do a good amount of fasting longer fast and
Speaker 2: that's a it's like the untapped health potential that every
Speaker 2: human has built in them for free. So I have
Speaker 2: a I have a list like pages long. If you
Speaker 2: go to my substack, I have like six different articles
Speaker 2: of all these different protocols I use or am using,
Speaker 2: or use continuously or whatever. Fasting is the one that
Speaker 2: anyone can do. It's free, you can do it healthily.
Speaker 2: It is always healthy for any condition. There's no condition
Speaker 2: that's contraindicated by fasting, and that includes diabetes and being hypoglycemic.
Speaker 2: I was hypoglycemic and that's pre diabetic in my opinion.
Speaker 2: And I can fast now for eighty six hours. It
Speaker 2: was my longest and it was easy. It was easy. Hypoglycemia,
Speaker 2: I don't even have it anymore. I don't have chronic
Speaker 2: pain anymore. I would say, I don't have hashimotis thyride
Speaker 2: ititis anymore. Will people believe that I don't care? What
Speaker 2: I would really just like is for people to try
Speaker 2: some of these things themselves. And there's actually just like
Speaker 2: this really simple three tear approach to healing literally anything,
Speaker 2: and it is to take good things in to your body,
Speaker 2: limit or cut out anything that is not serving your
Speaker 2: highest health. And again that's a journey. We all are
Speaker 2: in different places, and you cannot jump straight to like
Speaker 2: the healthiest thing, right, especially if you're like in the
Speaker 2: middle or kind of whatever. You have to take steps
Speaker 2: that are actually sustainable. But taking in the healthiest things,
Speaker 2: you can release all of the toxins you can sweating, peeing,
Speaker 2: and pooping, but the only way is that happens, so
Speaker 2: you have to stay hydrated, maybe do some saunas, work out,
Speaker 2: sweat right, and also maybe do some anemas if you're
Speaker 2: really into especially if you're in your late stage of disease.
Speaker 2: I would highly emphasize the enemas. That's really what I
Speaker 2: think got the most bang from my buck. And then fasting.
Speaker 2: Fasting is this superhealing tool. Fasting creates atophagy after a
Speaker 2: certain amount of time. Atophogy is when your body goes
Speaker 2: in and kills all of the bad cells, cancer cells.
Speaker 2: It kills cancer cells right, It kills any malfunctioning cells,
Speaker 2: any cell with the mitochondria's damage. It just destroys it
Speaker 2: and creates a new one. This is what you do
Speaker 2: when you're fasting. This is why animals were six stop eating.
Speaker 2: We were all programmed with this. We don't have to
Speaker 2: buy all this expensive stuff. You don't have to buy
Speaker 2: a sanna, you don't have to buy whatever. You could
Speaker 2: just fast healthfully. And I'll also add that's the same
Speaker 2: as everything else. You do it slowly, You do it
Speaker 2: how you can manage it. You work up to it.
Speaker 2: You don't just jump into it. And you definitely don't
Speaker 2: do it if you're not opening up your detox pathways,
Speaker 2: because fasting will dump toxins.
Speaker 3: You know, I always think to uh, you know, they
Speaker 3: talk about I feel like that there are certain things
Speaker 3: that you can kind of pull from, you know, whatever
Speaker 3: the uh, the general verbiage. I guess that they say
Speaker 3: within the hospitals and doctors and stuff like that, right,
Speaker 3: And so one thing that they say that that has
Speaker 3: kind of always stuck with me is that, you know,
Speaker 3: they've always said, you shouldn't eat right before you go
Speaker 3: to sleep, because then you're gonna get a shitty nights
Speaker 3: sleep right because your body, it's it's gonna be expounding
Speaker 3: all of its energy, breaking down what you just ate,
Speaker 3: and therefore not allowing you to rest and be able
Speaker 3: to like basically jumpstart your whole body. Like you know,
Speaker 3: whenever you eat in the morning, you're breaking your fast.
Speaker 3: But it's the same thing on the back end. And
Speaker 3: so I wonder, you know, and this is somebody. I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Believe that we are fully.
Speaker 3: Capable of healing ourselves one hundred percent, and I don't
Speaker 3: think that we need much of anything on the outside
Speaker 3: as far as quote unquote medicine by big pharma.
Speaker 1: Not by big pharma, but like outside like herbal from
Speaker 1: the earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going there. What I'm saying is as
Speaker 3: far as like, you know, hyde your codone is not
Speaker 3: gonna fucking make me, you know, it's just gonna make
Speaker 3: me think that the pain's not there, right, it's still there.
Speaker 3: And so I kind of look at it like, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever you go to sleep in your and you didn't
Speaker 3: eat right before you went to sleep, right, Well, if
Speaker 3: you apply that same mentality to a fast now you're taking,
Speaker 3: that's you know, six eight nine hours of sleep that
Speaker 3: you would whenever your body is regenerating and getting rid
Speaker 3: of all your other shit. And you apply that to
Speaker 3: a two or three or a day or a four
Speaker 3: day fast, now you're you're fucking like that's on steroids.
Speaker 3: That's the fucking hgh And that's what you're I mean,
Speaker 3: That's how I kind of comprehend it in my mind
Speaker 3: is that you know, now your body isn't focused on,
Speaker 3: you know, breaking down whatever you take in, and therefore
Speaker 3: it can rebuild everything that maybe you have some fucking
Speaker 3: damage tissue or some damage whatever on the inside of you.
Speaker 3: Our body is a naturally like, extremely well oiled, well
Speaker 3: oiled machine, and that it's capable of so many things.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that we keep on taking in
Speaker 3: fucking cheetos or pepsi or you know, little caesars or whatever,
Speaker 3: and so obviously you're gonna stay sick. Obviously you're not
Speaker 3: gonna get any better because your body's focused on breaking
Speaker 3: that shit down first, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's very true. And also the HGH thing, that's like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Not many people know
Speaker 1: about that. And also it's that doesn't mean that you'll
Speaker 1: get extra extra you know, if you go forty eight hours,
Speaker 1: like okay, there's a limit, there's an in between there,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of protein intake that goes into
Speaker 1: that as well. But that also kind of goes back
Speaker 1: to our quote unquote caveman ancestors because basically how their
Speaker 1: eating habits were and how they stayed strong enough to
Speaker 1: take down those animals while only eating at a very
Speaker 1: short portion of the day. If that day, it kind
Speaker 1: of forces your body into supergrowth mode, right into an
Speaker 1: almost like dip your toe in the water survival mode.
Speaker 1: And you can do that very regularly because like you said,
Speaker 1: it was fifteen hours, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again this goes back to your point, right
Speaker 2: that these caveman ties with people who are still living
Speaker 2: in land in that same way, they have this high
Speaker 2: level of health. Again, they may not make it as long,
Speaker 2: they might have a higher being prone to accident or whatever, right,
Speaker 2: or infection or who knows what. That might be a
Speaker 2: different story. But on this front, they've got it made right.
Speaker 2: They have little bursts of food, high dense calidaries and whatever,
Speaker 2: and fat and all these good natural things are coming
Speaker 2: in and then they might go for a while without eating.
Speaker 2: They naturally are fasting, right, and so their body our
Speaker 2: bodies aren't made for that. Our bodies are like, oh,
Speaker 2: you haven't eaten in a while. Here, here's some growth hormone,
Speaker 2: here's some autophogy, like, these are all the things you're
Speaker 2: going to need so that you can take down that
Speaker 2: deer whatever, right, and eat it, and you could be
Speaker 2: able to eat again.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And we're going to burn these excess fat
Speaker 1: cells because we need to do something to fuel all
Speaker 1: of this moat like survival mode that we're going into,
Speaker 1: no doubt. But again, you have to do that carefully
Speaker 1: because if you do that too much, your body will
Speaker 1: start taking in those carbs and immediately storing them as
Speaker 1: fat because it's getting ready for the next time you
Speaker 1: put it in survival mode the next day. So again
Speaker 1: you have to space it out and do things accordingly,
Speaker 1: you know, but absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: I'll say too. It's so on this on this front
Speaker 2: of you know, doing things accordingly, it is best to
Speaker 2: break your fast with things that are really like good protein,
Speaker 2: good fats, and then a good amount of vegetables maybe
Speaker 2: but like not carbs, not a lot of cars, and
Speaker 2: maybe you never really eat a lot of carbs again
Speaker 2: because maybe carbs are like not really the way that
Speaker 2: your body wants the energy to come in. Unless you're
Speaker 2: a woman, there's sometimes where you might need higher cars. Men.
Speaker 2: You guys can never eat carbs again and do great.
Speaker 2: It seems like that based on all the studies, right, women,
Speaker 2: we like there's a couple of times in our cycle,
Speaker 2: I'm finding we're like we do need some carbs, and
Speaker 2: so like the no carb or very low carb lifestyle
Speaker 2: like one hundred percent of time might not serve us
Speaker 2: as much either way, though it still serves us to
Speaker 2: have really good protein, really good fats. Not the seed
Speaker 2: oil bullshit, right, but like the good animal fats. Maybe
Speaker 2: coconmut oil and fucking I just lost oil is pretty good.
Speaker 2: I I swear there was another one I usually throw
Speaker 2: in here, but I'm forgetting it right now. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's some good fats that we can take in that
Speaker 2: are all serve us most. There's this woman in Terry Walls.
Speaker 2: She was a doctor. She had severe multiple scrosis. She
Speaker 2: was laid out in a lay down chair, not even
Speaker 2: a sit up like wheelchair, which like laid back. She
Speaker 2: couldn't sit up, she couldn't move, she couldn't lost her
Speaker 2: ability to talk, she couldn't walk. This is what multiple
Speaker 2: scrosses is like, right, It's a death sentence for people.
Speaker 2: They get worse and worse, some wors it's neurodegenerative, and
Speaker 2: then they die. She was at this point, she was
Speaker 2: already a doctor. She started developing this way of eating
Speaker 2: that was high nutrient density, no carb good fats and
Speaker 2: liver and a little bit of really high quality meat.
Speaker 2: Now and then this is called the Walls protocol. You
Speaker 2: have a lot of especially the cruciferous vegetables. And she
Speaker 2: reversed her ms and now she walks and talks. And
Speaker 2: that's impossible according to medical science, according to the Rockefeller
Speaker 2: Allopathic right, they can't heal that. They don't think it's
Speaker 2: possible to heal that. And so because it's impossible to them,
Speaker 2: despite that, she has all of this documented by testing
Speaker 2: and medical professionals and all of this, they still call
Speaker 2: her a fraud and a quaque, as though she somehow
Speaker 2: faked all those tests over all those years and doubt whatever.
Speaker 2: So again, think whatever you want. She's walking and talking.
Speaker 2: Now that's her protocol. This protocol turns out to be
Speaker 2: helpful for again cancer, autoimmune diseases, and neurodegenerative like she has.
Speaker 2: These are really the only three categories of diseases we have,
Speaker 2: and most of them are metabolic in nature. And so
Speaker 2: this is going to go back to parasites in a moment.
Speaker 2: But before then, now we have the science, just in
Speaker 2: the past year or so. Now we have the science
Speaker 2: to know why the Walls protocol works, why that diet
Speaker 2: specifically Wahl Walls protocol, why it works. And it's because
Speaker 2: we found this acid, this specific acid I cannot remember
Speaker 2: the name of right now. This specific acid is remielinating.
Speaker 2: And this remilination is what happened. Neurodegeneration is when you're demielinating,
Speaker 2: all your nerves and all your brain is like losing
Speaker 2: its fat, it's losing its sheet, it's losing its ability
Speaker 2: to hold electrically, you start d what twitching out demielinating.
Speaker 2: So violin is the sheeting along the nerves and the brain.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I get it because it sounds like dl eminating,
Speaker 1: like when you have two dissimilar metals that are like
Speaker 1: you might have in a forging situation. You might have
Speaker 1: a softer metal and a harder metal and you're trying
Speaker 1: to put them together and like forge well them. But
Speaker 1: they can delaminate, i e. Peel all from each other.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, all right, Yeah, yep, same exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's peeling off it. You're losing the sheathing. That's
Speaker 2: what all neurodegenerative diseases are, all of them cancer and autommune.
Speaker 2: We won't connect those automatically right here, but they still
Speaker 2: get better from this for whatever reason. All right, So
Speaker 2: we found the sacid totally not connected to terry walls
Speaker 2: at all, not connected to MS. We just found the sacid.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They said this remilinates the nerves. They thought,
Speaker 2: once you're demilinated, you can't remilinate, and it's oh, it's
Speaker 2: going to degenerate until you die. So any of these
Speaker 2: Parkinson's MS, all these neurological degenerative diseases, all these nerve issues.
Speaker 2: You're screwed. There's nothing that can help you, they said.
Speaker 2: Now they're like have to admit, Oh, there is this
Speaker 2: can remilinate you, this specific acid. So someone sent me
Speaker 2: this and I was like, wow, that's fascinating. What is
Speaker 2: this acid? And I went and looked at what is
Speaker 2: this acid in? What foods is it in? Naturally? Because
Speaker 2: let's all eat more of that? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that the ship Michael J. Fox is doing? Because
Speaker 1: that dude is not as bad as he used to be.
Speaker 2: Really, No, probably because it's the only thing that I
Speaker 2: know of that could reverse it. So you can get
Speaker 2: this acid if you're rich enough in its own like
Speaker 2: former I'm just saying, like what foods habits so all
Speaker 2: of us can access it? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And it turns out it's highest in cruciferous vegetables. Terry
Speaker 2: Wallas's diet is like eat a shitload of cross vegetables,
Speaker 2: healthy fats, a little bit of meat, liver once a week.
Speaker 1: Give a couple of examples types of vegetables cruciferous.
Speaker 2: I never heard of the cerus, broccoli, cabbage. Uh, those
Speaker 2: are the only two that are brustles sprouts like cauliflower.
Speaker 2: So vegetables that are kind of like I want to say,
Speaker 2: woodier almost.
Speaker 1: Right, So the ones that are very high and iron
Speaker 1: from what I'm gathering.
Speaker 4: And fiber yeah.
Speaker 2: Leafy greens, yeah, dark dark leafy greens. So not ice
Speaker 2: for lettuce, radish or another one. You can go look
Speaker 2: up Cruciferus vegetables and you'll get a whole list and
Speaker 2: it's all these things. So what I've said, crucifix Yeah,
Speaker 2: isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: Cruciferous vegetables are what we need to be healthier. How
Speaker 1: interesting Jesus saves. Indeed he does.
Speaker 2: We're desperately in need of these, all of our nervous systems. Again,
Speaker 2: whether you notice it or not, you're around five g
Speaker 2: and all this EMF soup. Your nerves are fried, like
Speaker 2: you've been stressed, Like there's a lot of things that
Speaker 2: have been trying to eat away your nerves. So Cruciber's
Speaker 2: vegetables of the way, So like you know, throwing a
Speaker 2: little broccoli every day, throwing some every time you have
Speaker 2: like a dinner that you make, like, have some of
Speaker 2: these vegetables. The easiest way I found is I freaking
Speaker 2: love coleslaw, So I'll make a cole slaw that's all
Speaker 2: just like all of those thrown together, right and and
Speaker 2: with a healthy fat as the dressing. And it's like
Speaker 2: now I'm just like, you know, super high level charge,
Speaker 2: like healing.
Speaker 1: Up with you. I even speak. I don't like cole
Speaker 1: slaw anyway, I love no. But it's also kind of
Speaker 1: sounds like you at first were saying like cruise service vegetables.
Speaker 1: They kind of reminded me like a CRUI serve, like
Speaker 1: a cruise serve machine gun. For a crazy second, I
Speaker 1: was like, what, I'm so deaf. It took me a
Speaker 1: couple of times here and you say it to here cruciferous,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, oh oh wait, what the hell?
Speaker 3: That show there used to be this guy And this
Speaker 3: was like a couple of years ago. Whenever I felt
Speaker 3: like I whenever my awakening started to happen, and everybody
Speaker 3: remembers like around about the time that that starts, right,
Speaker 3: and for me, like I always to be real, I
Speaker 3: was probably an NPC for like the first twenty six
Speaker 3: years of my life. Sure, And and so whenever I
Speaker 3: started going down into a lot of conspiracies and a
Speaker 3: lot of spirituality, I felt like that's where it really
Speaker 3: whenever my my perception of a lot of things started
Speaker 3: to open up a lot of bit or a lot
Speaker 3: not a lot of.
Speaker 1: Bit, and a lot of bit.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I really was looking up
Speaker 3: is I was trying to like lose a bunch of
Speaker 3: weight because I just started this new sport and in
Speaker 3: this I'm not going to say it, but in this sport,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to be pretty fit. And I mean,
Speaker 3: fuck it, yeah, I was trying. I was trying to
Speaker 3: be a professional wrestler. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I but I was a little bit
Speaker 3: on the heftier side, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get like fucking John Cena up in
Speaker 3: here and just get all yoked. And so but I
Speaker 3: knew that, you know, not only is that, you know,
Speaker 3: working out, that's also dieting. And I was trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what would be the fastest way for me
Speaker 3: to get to where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 4: And I I stumbled across fasting.
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, well, who here has
Speaker 3: a lot of information on fasting and also could be
Speaker 3: you know, maybe somewhat.
Speaker 4: Of a motivator.
Speaker 3: And there was this dude, and he is a fucking
Speaker 3: fuck Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the snake snake juice diet or whatever he does.
Speaker 3: My god, I would love to get him on the show.
Speaker 2: Here one day, four times. And he'll always respond, he'll
Speaker 2: be like, thank you so much. I don't do shows.
Speaker 3: I'm like please, I know well, And and he has
Speaker 3: such a cool way of doing it because he'll open
Speaker 3: it up and he'll say, hey Fatty, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 3: let's go. I need that, I need that.
Speaker 1: You need that coach in your face. Bro, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do too something.
Speaker 3: And so the way he went down, and that's really
Speaker 3: where where when I started fasting, and you know, I
Speaker 3: would do it for like half a day. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: oh man, I'm feeling weak. I need some pizza in
Speaker 3: my life. And then I would just be like, no,
Speaker 3: go watch one of his videos and I would start
Speaker 3: it and he would would start off, Hey Fatty, and
Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, I'm back, let's go. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: This is so counterintuitive to a whole all right, So
Speaker 1: there's a diet that my wife stumbled upon here recently.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to hear both of y'all's two cents
Speaker 1: on it, because I already have my opinion of it.
Speaker 1: But and I also understand where they're coming from. But
Speaker 1: let's let's go there. And I don't know the name
Speaker 1: of it offhand, but basically, you eat whatever you're craving
Speaker 1: at that moment because your body is telling you that
Speaker 1: it is deficient in something that that particular item might have.
Speaker 1: So hear me out. This in theory is like I
Speaker 1: am craving an apple right now.
Speaker 4: And fruit roll upspro yes, yes, yes, icient.
Speaker 1: In theory, it sounds great like, Okay, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I am craving cellery right now, I can't explain why.
Speaker 1: So you just go and eat teller. Your body was
Speaker 1: telling you to do it. You don't know why. It's
Speaker 1: because of X, Y or Z. And I'm thinking that's beautiful.
Speaker 1: In theory, my body is going to tell me to
Speaker 1: eat so much pizza non stop. And and these people's
Speaker 1: response would be, well, yeah, like maybe it's the tomato
Speaker 1: in it, maybe it's the cars. Maybe it's just your
Speaker 1: body is telling you that it requires pizza for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: you should go for it. That's a bit of a
Speaker 1: cop out, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit of a cop out, But what
Speaker 3: is y'all's opinion of this?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just say, Okay, first of all, I want
Speaker 2: to say col Robinson is the best motivator, and also
Speaker 2: his snake juice. That specific recipe is crucial for longer
Speaker 2: term fasts, like you have to have those minerals in
Speaker 2: order to fast well, so you need to be drinking
Speaker 2: water with those minerals in it in order to last.
Speaker 2: That's how I made it eighty six hours without even carring.
Speaker 2: I could have gone like another four days. I felt like,
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is so easy. Once you
Speaker 2: get past the initial twenty four hours or so, it's
Speaker 2: usually a lot easier. Yes, but so and so it's
Speaker 2: great for that. I'll also say for women, Mindy Pels
Speaker 2: Mindy Pelz is really great because, like I was saying,
Speaker 2: there might be sometimes in your cycle where you need
Speaker 2: a little bit more carbs and whatever. So she has
Speaker 2: really specific suggestions for that, and that's very helpful for women.
Speaker 2: We just have a different we have different stuff going on, right,
Speaker 2: So I think they're both really the best possible resources
Speaker 2: for those or for fasting for different people. I would
Speaker 2: say again, both and I don't think men need MINDI pels,
Speaker 2: but women do so anyways, for cravings. For this diet
Speaker 2: of cravings, I think that's actually genius. Unless you have parasites,
Speaker 2: unless you have metabolic disorders. And most people, again are
Speaker 2: in a state of some kind of disease and you
Speaker 2: have some level of parasites in you, and parasites again,
Speaker 2: this is no wu wu shit. This is scientifically studied
Speaker 2: forever we know this. Parasites control your behavior. They tell
Speaker 2: you what to do. Parasites will make you sad if
Speaker 2: they know that you're going to go eat ice cream
Speaker 2: when you're set. They'll make you angry, if they know
Speaker 2: that you're more likely to eat ice cream when you're angry.
Speaker 2: They will tell you to do things. They control your mood,
Speaker 2: your mind, your thoughts. And I'm not saying all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm saying they know how to influence you in order
Speaker 2: to make you up cravings for whatever they want. So
Speaker 2: if you are just doing this from a state of disease,
Speaker 2: you're gonna eat the pizza, and you're gonna eat ice
Speaker 2: cream and you're gonna crave that, and you're gonna tell yourself, oh,
Speaker 2: I need it, my body needs it or your body
Speaker 2: doesn't need that. Your parasites need that, and they literally
Speaker 2: need it to survive. They only eat carbs.
Speaker 1: It's a good thought they eat because all the people
Speaker 1: that are doing this diet are super fit. They are
Speaker 1: in the gym NonStop. Their whole Instagram is in the gym,
Speaker 1: so they are already at like their version of peak performance.
Speaker 1: Whatever that's at their parasite level that they're personally dealing
Speaker 1: with is probably on a different spectrum. Then the person
Speaker 1: who's watching them listening to them spit this and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: so I just go get a big mac, Like I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. They crave healthy stuff because they
Speaker 1: eat healthy, Like it's not absurd for them to crave
Speaker 1: celery out of nowhere. This person will never go crave
Speaker 1: a hot fudge Sunday anyway, so it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: Maybe they did need something in the hot fudge Sunday,
Speaker 2: but they're probably only gonna have like a tiny little bit,
Speaker 2: like Okay, I'm like full now, that was way more
Speaker 2: than enough, right, whereas the rest of us will be like, oh,
Speaker 2: eat a whole find like yeah, okay, that's a different state.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think about this on more of a
Speaker 3: psychological psychological level, because I mean, that's kind of like
Speaker 3: how my mind works. I want to understand why it
Speaker 3: is why we do the things that we do in
Speaker 3: order to become aware and prevent and all that other shit.
Speaker 3: But I wonder, so if the parasite is making me
Speaker 3: think that I want a certain food, right, I want
Speaker 3: to relay it into another train of thought. And you
Speaker 3: talked earlier about channeling, right about how you know old
Speaker 3: boy was channeling and that's how he got the help
Speaker 3: from the channeling god or not the channeling god.
Speaker 2: The whatever passionate spirit or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right.
Speaker 3: It almost makes you wonder that there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people channeling. And I'm not hating. I'm not a hater
Speaker 3: of channeling by any means. I think they're absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1: I want to get more of them on the show.
Speaker 1: They are fun as hell, if for nothing else for
Speaker 1: the conversation.
Speaker 3: Right, but let's just call it channels or downloads or
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. It makes you wonder that is,
Speaker 3: are there parasites on a higher level that you feel
Speaker 3: like you're getting that information from that It has to
Speaker 3: be good because it's not from you. You know you're
Speaker 3: discerning it's not from you. Are we thinking that it
Speaker 3: kind of is as above so below kind of situation
Speaker 3: with these parasites.
Speaker 2: Yes, so, And I do now call myself up amongst
Speaker 2: the channelers, which I never would have I hate channel
Speaker 2: I don't hate them anymore because I had to admit
Speaker 2: finally that I was one. But so I'm coming from
Speaker 2: that perspective now where I resisted it forever. I thought
Speaker 2: these people were insane and stupid and just a bunch
Speaker 2: of fraudsters, right, And now I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I do that now, and like I never wanted to,
Speaker 2: and it's the last thing I ever would have wanted
Speaker 2: to admit about myself else. So I'm coming from that
Speaker 2: perspective and having this life of many spiritual experiences and
Speaker 2: synchronousies and downloads and now channeling and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm a shermanic healer and I work with all
Speaker 2: these different energies and whatnot. And for like, maybe a
Speaker 2: large portion of people listening or watching just went like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're not listening to anything she says now, which I
Speaker 2: totally get too, because I'm to be there too.
Speaker 1: Potate and it's good.
Speaker 2: Right. I am my own biggest skeptic, and I started
Speaker 2: as the biggest skeptic of literally everything. So I have
Speaker 2: to prove things to myself very securely before I will
Speaker 2: accept them. So, having said all of that, yes, we
Speaker 2: have parasites at every level. We have physical parasites, we
Speaker 2: have emotional parasites, we have mental parasites, and we have
Speaker 2: spiritual parasites. And we also all say have social or
Speaker 2: political parasites, which is another level. It's not really of ourself,
Speaker 2: but it is what we interact with, right, Yes, so
Speaker 2: there's parasites at every level.
Speaker 1: A sense of tribalism could be a parasitic things well.
Speaker 2: Yes, or these psychopath class right, who controls seemingly everything,
Speaker 2: they're feeding off all of us, like where they're little slaves, right,
Speaker 2: that's a type of parasitism. So all of these have
Speaker 2: the same exact cure, which is that you starve it
Speaker 2: of the energy it is sucking off of you, and you,
Speaker 2: in no uncertain terms, clean your house in such a
Speaker 2: way that they have nowhere to live anymore. That's the
Speaker 2: same in your physical body, that's the same in your
Speaker 2: mental It's the same in your emotional and it's same
Speaker 2: on the spiritual and social levels. So you always have
Speaker 2: to think about what does the parasite want from you,
Speaker 2: and every time it's actually something that you don't need.
Speaker 2: You never needed it. You don't need to have all
Speaker 2: this crap in your gut that is feeding these parasites.
Speaker 2: You don't need to live in a way what they
Speaker 2: can eat off of you. You don't need to think
Speaker 2: the thoughts that the parasites wanting. You don't have to
Speaker 2: feel in these ways the parasites feed up. You don't
Speaker 2: have to act socially in a way that gives them
Speaker 2: power over you. But it's easier to do all those
Speaker 2: things for many of us. It seems easier to eat
Speaker 2: the pizza. It seems easier to just keep thinking the
Speaker 2: same dejected, lowly thoughts that you've been thinking your whole life.
Speaker 2: It seems easier to just deal with the emotional unit,
Speaker 2: self suppression and harm that you've done to yourself all
Speaker 2: of these years. And it seems easier to just keep
Speaker 2: like going along, to get along socially and just letting
Speaker 2: it be how it is, because it's easier. Then the end,
Speaker 2: it's not, though, and the end. It's the same on
Speaker 2: every level, and it's disease, and disease is something that
Speaker 2: you can always heal. You were made to heal it. Actually,
Speaker 2: so it's the same again. Whatever you think, God's source,
Speaker 2: love of the universe, whatever it is, made your mind
Speaker 2: in such a way you don't have to feed parasites,
Speaker 2: made your heart in such a way you don't have
Speaker 2: to feed parasites, made your body in such a way
Speaker 2: you don't have to feed parasites, and definitely made your
Speaker 2: will in such a way that you don't have to
Speaker 2: feed those social political parasites at the external level. You
Speaker 2: have to actually do it. You have to say like no,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you feed off me. And
Speaker 2: that's final. You said to have that discipline to carry through.
Speaker 1: On it, discipline because people are lazy by nature, and
Speaker 1: it's so easy, like you said, to just eat the
Speaker 1: pizza right now, and like even once you acknowledge what
Speaker 1: to be done, like the work that needs to actually happen,
Speaker 1: that you yourself. That's that's a you versus you thing.
Speaker 1: It is so easy to be like look, look, look,
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow, okay, starting in this weird time, it's the
Speaker 1: middle of the week starting Monday, right, But then like
Speaker 1: it is so easy to play that game of kick
Speaker 1: the can in your own mind and in your own soul.
Speaker 1: But sooner or later it's like, dude, pick the fucking
Speaker 1: can up.
Speaker 4: Then it turns into like the New Year's resolution.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, like, yah, stop being
Speaker 1: a bitch after it.
Speaker 2: One of the things, one of the things that changed
Speaker 2: my life. And I wish I remembered who said it,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm sure many people said it. At
Speaker 2: this time. It hit me and they said, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're saying that you want to do something, you're
Speaker 2: a liar. If you're like, I want to do this,
Speaker 2: you're a liar because if you wanted to do it,
Speaker 2: you'd do it, and you would just do it. And
Speaker 2: now you don't have to say you want you'd say
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, and so if you want to do it,
Speaker 2: do it. And I'm like, damn, it's so true. If
Speaker 2: you say, like I want to lose weight, or I
Speaker 2: want to get rid of the parasites, or I want
Speaker 2: to be healthier, I want to get off my prescriptions,
Speaker 2: well then can do it. That's the end.
Speaker 1: What are you doing towards that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and another person I said, well, sometimes it's just
Speaker 2: easier to send. They said, no, it's not easier, because
Speaker 2: later you're gonna have to deal with the consequences. Way
Speaker 2: harder to be in pain and to be sick, and
Speaker 2: to be fat and to be unhealthy, to be sad
Speaker 2: and hell, all these thoughts and whatever. That's harder. It's
Speaker 2: actually easier to be healthy. And it actually only takes
Speaker 2: like three days, maybe a month at the very very most,
Speaker 2: to completely switch yourself over to like, oh I don't
Speaker 2: even want any of that crap. I feel so good.
Speaker 2: Why would I ever stop doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I actually experienced this firsthand just a few
Speaker 3: days ago. So I've been on I've been on the
Speaker 3: the Keto diet for going on probably two months now,
Speaker 3: and I've lost like thirty pounds.
Speaker 4: It's been great.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can fit, boy.
Speaker 4: Dude, awesome.
Speaker 3: Trying to get I'm trying to go from dad bod
Speaker 3: to zadbod you know what that But really what I was,
Speaker 3: you know, So, I've been staying away from carbs, even
Speaker 3: like even things that only have a carb or too.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm just like trying to I'm trying to fucking expedite
Speaker 3: this process, and that would be slowing it down. So
Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay away from it. And so I've
Speaker 3: been doing really good. I hadn't been taking any off days.
Speaker 3: Everything's been great. I've been losing weight like crazy. Every
Speaker 3: time I step on the scale, there's another pound or
Speaker 3: two gone, right, And so that's like you wake up
Speaker 3: and that's the first bit of good news you get,
Speaker 3: like it sets the day up, oh, or like success,
Speaker 3: how can you not just win? Right? Well? But then
Speaker 3: recently here, just a few days ago, my baby got
Speaker 3: sick and then my wife got sick, and they were
Speaker 3: both sick, and I was like, oh, man, I know
Speaker 3: it's a matter of time until I get it, Like
Speaker 3: it's a matter, like it's it's an inevitability, and and.
Speaker 4: Sure as fuck, I got it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I got sick, and I was like I couldn't go
Speaker 3: to work for a few days, and like I couldn't
Speaker 3: even stand up. I just felt so it was I'm
Speaker 3: not going to call it by a name. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna say it was the fluke, right, I don't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck it is. I'm sick, Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I like, I had no appetite and all that other shit.
Speaker 1: Well, my wife, I just realized, did you hit this vape?
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not sick right now.
Speaker 1: Did you hit this one though?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fuck no, I'm fine.
Speaker 4: I'm fine, or else I wouldn't be here. But anyway,
Speaker 4: I just got over it.
Speaker 3: And so, uh, my wife was like, well, look, we
Speaker 3: feel like shit, Like it sucks like fucking thinking about
Speaker 3: this shit moving forward. She goes, how about we just like,
Speaker 3: let's just eat our comfort food. At least that'll be
Speaker 3: something that will make us at least make us think
Speaker 3: that we're, you know, feeling a little bit better. So
Speaker 3: we started eating fucking all of our favorite foods right,
Speaker 3: and oh my god, they were delicious. Let me tell you,
Speaker 3: I I went to sleep like I went to sleep
Speaker 3: so uncomfortable, and it was such a reminder of how
Speaker 3: I used to go to sleep every night like that,
Speaker 3: and I never want to experience that again.
Speaker 4: I'm honestly considering doing.
Speaker 3: Keto literally forever, because and I know some people might say, oh,
Speaker 3: it's not sustainable, it's not good for you if you
Speaker 3: do it that long, I don't care. It works for me,
Speaker 3: and I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: I like eating healthy.
Speaker 3: I like eating steak, I like eating vegetables, I like
Speaker 3: eating chicken. I don't see a real need to eat
Speaker 3: like a fucking lasagna.
Speaker 1: No, as long as okay, if you're gonna replace the
Speaker 1: carbs out of your diet, then you have to replace
Speaker 1: them with healthy fats. That's it. If you can successfully
Speaker 1: do that and your body has something to burn for energy, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're fucking Gucci bro exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of something that I've learned here too,
Speaker 3: is that I think that's actually called the Palaeo diet.
Speaker 1: I might be awf on that.
Speaker 3: What's that like?
Speaker 1: It's pretty much just no grain, no breads, no, nothing
Speaker 1: like that. It's strictly vegetables, fruits.
Speaker 4: And meat, right right. And you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I tried that.
Speaker 3: I can't stick to it, Keto. I know I know
Speaker 3: how to do it, so I stick to it.
Speaker 1: Basically.
Speaker 3: More of the story is is like we feel so
Speaker 3: much better when we eat better, and we are reminded
Speaker 3: of how shitty it feels after a while, like to
Speaker 3: go back to the same old eating habit.
Speaker 1: I will say this too. If you're gonna continue the
Speaker 1: Keto up your fruit intake not crazy crazy because abundance
Speaker 1: of sugars is bad for you. But I'm also gonna
Speaker 1: say that too, because carbs will break down your body
Speaker 1: to give your body the natural sugars that you need,
Speaker 1: and you can't get that from vegetables. There are some
Speaker 1: out there with natural sugars. It's great. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: make sure you're looking at it from all sides. Brother.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: So how keto works is that you know your body
Speaker 3: is so used to breaking down carbs for energy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and once you're actually in ketosis, now it changes your
Speaker 3: bodies like mechanism of burning fat. Instead of burning the carbs,
Speaker 3: you're now burning the fat and that is your fuel.
Speaker 3: And so it's essential to take in the in the fat,
Speaker 3: and that's really what gives you the energy. So I
Speaker 3: don't need the sugar. I don't need the you know,
Speaker 3: the fucking handful of blueberries or grapes or whatever it is,
Speaker 3: because I'm already getting that sustainable energy as the fat instead.
Speaker 1: But I thought there was other reasons why your body
Speaker 1: I'm not saying needs quote unquote sugar, like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that doctor's ever gonna prescribe you have so many
Speaker 1: milligrams of sugar a day, nothing like that. But I
Speaker 1: thought there was other things within your body that do
Speaker 1: benefit from having sugar naturally, Like eating a peach is
Speaker 1: not going to do bad for your body. The sugar
Speaker 1: is in it actually help your body in other ways,
Speaker 1: not just the vitamins, but the sugar itself.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I'll say that you even on Keto,
Speaker 2: you can have up to what is it, twenty grands
Speaker 2: of net carbs a day.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the body type, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can have a couple of blueberries and blackberries and stuff.
Speaker 2: And like the Walls diet for example, she says, look,
Speaker 2: have some citrus now, and then have like a grapefruit now,
Speaker 2: and then have like a very small handful of specifically blueberry,
Speaker 2: raspberry and blackberries. Right, So you're having some cars and
Speaker 2: some sugar there. Your muscles like that. There are some
Speaker 2: things in your body that want that, but you're still
Speaker 2: not going above that, like twenty net grands a day, right,
Speaker 2: And so throwing that in there, I would say, is great.
Speaker 2: I would also say, you know that the Walls diet
Speaker 2: is it's not technically Keto because there's no focus on
Speaker 2: the high fat. It's focus on good fat and having fat.
Speaker 2: But it's not I know, Keto is like this really
Speaker 2: high fat, like you should just have like sixty percent
Speaker 2: fat and forty percent protein.
Speaker 1: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: Right, So that did not work for me, And the
Speaker 2: reason it didn't work, and it might not work for
Speaker 2: some women especially again, might be the cycle thing, and
Speaker 2: it might be if you're in like a later stage
Speaker 2: of disease. So for some people you might want to
Speaker 2: do not do the like Keto Keto diet unless you're
Speaker 2: pretty healthy and you whatever. You might also if you
Speaker 2: have any sort of gall or liver issues, not want
Speaker 2: to do the high fat part because that gumbs up
Speaker 2: your liver and your gall bladder which you're trying to
Speaker 2: clean out. So you still want the good fats, but
Speaker 2: you don't want high fat. So some people like Walls
Speaker 2: will say, like, you know, it's it's Keto esque. It's
Speaker 2: no carb slash, very very low carb, but you don't
Speaker 2: do the super high fat. So I think people should
Speaker 2: choose between those. I think they're the best possible diets
Speaker 2: that we have access to on this planet if we
Speaker 2: want to support our bodies to heal and lose fat.
Speaker 2: So here's one more thing to throw onto the pile. Here.
Speaker 2: The reason that it didn't work for me also, so
Speaker 2: I was in a high level of toxicity. Our fat,
Speaker 2: our body is genius. Our fat is like an insulation
Speaker 2: for toxins. If I pile in some toxins and my
Speaker 2: liver's like, whoa, dude, we cannot process this, it's going
Speaker 2: to shove it into some fat and store it. So
Speaker 2: I was doing keto, I was doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I was working out, and I was gaining weight, and
Speaker 2: it was like people were like, that's not even possible,
Speaker 2: Like it's not possible. And I was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: my body's a weird mystery and I have this crazy disease.
Speaker 2: That right, But that's why. Actually it's because I had
Speaker 2: all these toxins and my body was protecting me. And
Speaker 2: it was like, no, we're not burning this fat. It's
Speaker 2: filled with shit. You smoked meth your entire childhood. I
Speaker 2: used to dip my hands in this stuff. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what it was. When I was a pad
Speaker 2: printer at a machine shop, and it was like this
Speaker 2: solvent that took inks off of things and nobody gave
Speaker 2: me gloves. Who knows what I was absorbing into my system.
Speaker 2: I would go home dizzy and unable to see. And
Speaker 2: I just like didn't think there was a problem with that,
Speaker 2: cause whatever other chemicals in my life I've been subjected to,
Speaker 2: my body has stored a lot of that in fat.
Speaker 1: So people don't people sleep on huffing fumes. That gets
Speaker 1: you there, boy, I tell you what.
Speaker 4: That was the first time I ever got high.
Speaker 1: Actually I've never done it, but I know some people
Speaker 1: that the health gasol for the better part.
Speaker 2: Of the life. Man, you're poor. That's how you know
Speaker 2: you're from a poor part of shout if you huffed
Speaker 2: gas for a while.
Speaker 4: Mine was spray paint.
Speaker 1: Spray paint or gas.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it started in middle school with the
Speaker 3: with the fat sharpies.
Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody started with the sharpies and the highlighters. Man.
Speaker 1: But one day, that one school, Yeah, that one kid
Speaker 1: got on the bus a little extra zuded and he
Speaker 1: came from his dad's shed and You're like, bro, what
Speaker 1: was that? What? Like, dude, hold on, hold on?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So you're so you're fat? And I say this
Speaker 2: not because we want to hold onto the fat, right,
Speaker 2: But because if you're stressed, if you're you feel like
Speaker 2: you failed all these diets and you can't get rid
Speaker 2: of your fat, just stop for a secon and go, oh,
Speaker 2: my God, thank you body, you and your divine wisdom
Speaker 2: given to you again by God source whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call. It, saved me from getting flooded with all
Speaker 2: these toxins that perhaps would have sent me into toxic
Speaker 2: shock and killed me. Thank you for not burning that fat. Actually,
Speaker 2: so now I'm very much on this other side of things.
Speaker 2: And this is one of the things I got from
Speaker 2: that Anthony Medical Medium book as well, was this idea
Speaker 2: that like, no, my body's not broken. I don't have
Speaker 2: this autoimmune disease that's irreversible. My body's not just malfunctioning.
Speaker 2: My body has been trying its best to save me
Speaker 2: my entire life, and all I need to do is
Speaker 2: give it what it needs and it will heal anything.
Speaker 2: And so this is a totally different mindset than what
Speaker 2: we're told. We're told that our bodies just slowly break
Speaker 2: down over time and they just go wrong and they
Speaker 2: just start attacking you and you just get cancer and
Speaker 2: die and black. And it's like no, you don't. Actually,
Speaker 2: your body is trying desperately to save your life, and
Speaker 2: it will do it by storing toxins and fat and
Speaker 2: keeping you kind fat even if you don't like it,
Speaker 2: and all of these other things just to try to
Speaker 2: hold on a little bit longer. So if you just
Speaker 2: give it what it needs, which is again good stuff
Speaker 2: in these diets we're talking about with all the highest
Speaker 2: nutrient density food you can get, the organic stuff, the
Speaker 2: really local stuff, the high quality stuff, whatever it is
Speaker 2: you can get in that's good. Trying your best to
Speaker 2: release the toxins, especially from your liver. That's what's the
Speaker 2: gold of the coffee enema specifically, it's got compounds in
Speaker 2: it that trigger your liver to release its toxins and
Speaker 2: then you immediately let it go because it comes out right,
Speaker 2: unlike many other things. So that's the coffee enema, right,
Speaker 2: That's why people do it. It's it's designed, it's studied,
Speaker 2: it's science like, that's how it works. It's got the chemical,
Speaker 2: it's got the fat and the oil and the chemical
Speaker 2: your liver needs in order to release all this toxin.
Speaker 2: So you're releasing all these toxins and then you're also
Speaker 2: hopefully fasting longer and longer amounts, right, And you can
Speaker 2: start small, like you can just say, okay, well tomorrow,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wake up and I'm just not gonna eat
Speaker 2: for a few hours, not gonna drink any coffee or
Speaker 2: creer or you can have coffee, I guess, but no
Speaker 2: cream or sugar or whatever in it. And then like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quit eating like an hour or two earlier
Speaker 2: than I normally do, one of the two or both, right,
Speaker 2: just at both ends. I'm just gonna shave it off
Speaker 2: a little and then do that for a little while
Speaker 2: and then go, okay, well that's pretty easy. Actually I'm
Speaker 2: gonna shave it a little shorter. Even You never have
Speaker 2: to eat in more than like a four hour window
Speaker 2: every day if you don't want to, you can. But
Speaker 2: like then you're every day fasting. Every day, you're getting
Speaker 2: any sh every day, you're getting a little bit of
Speaker 2: a toapage. Every day, you're getting a little bit of
Speaker 2: a poptosis, which again is like your body's way of
Speaker 2: cleaning house. Right, And you can just do that all
Speaker 2: the time. You can do that for the rest of
Speaker 2: the time. That's perfectly healthy for you and any day
Speaker 2: you can't, oh well, don't do it that day, but
Speaker 2: like you could do it every time.
Speaker 4: Intermediate fasting. I believe it's coind intermittent yeah, intermitten.
Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, Terry Crews has gotten to where he's at
Speaker 1: doing intermittent fast and there's shipped to it.
Speaker 3: Oh dad, whenever your tits literally bounce and dance on
Speaker 3: your chest, bro.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean.
Speaker 1: Robot himself dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's the one way that people do
Speaker 2: it too, is just omad right, one meal of a day,
Speaker 2: they're just like, I'm just gonna eat this one. It's
Speaker 2: still you're not like reducing calories. Even you're just eating
Speaker 2: in a shorter window. You're still eating all the same stuff,
Speaker 2: just less time, so you're giving your body more time
Speaker 2: to like you said earlier, when you're digesting, just try
Speaker 2: it one day, like just eat and then notice, oh
Speaker 2: I got maybe colder or hotterer, was if people are different,
Speaker 2: but like all my energy just went to my gut
Speaker 2: and everything else is now slowed down. I'm thinking less clearly,
Speaker 2: Like you can notice it if you start to notice it.
Speaker 2: Your body puts so much energy into digesting and all
Speaker 2: you're doing is giving it more time off from that
Speaker 2: really heavy duty task and more time to then clean house,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And that's something as far as the whole keto thing
Speaker 3: that I'm doing now is that I will go on
Speaker 3: you know, twenty four thirty two hour fast somewhere in
Speaker 3: between two because like I said, I mean, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to lose weight with the quickness, and you know, if
Speaker 3: I got to miss a meal, it's not gonna kill
Speaker 3: me because I'm I'm so focused on getting to that
Speaker 3: that goal weight, and so it's definitely helping I I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a whole like, I'm a super fan of fasting.
Speaker 3: I understand all the benefits and everything that go along
Speaker 3: with it. But if it's also getting rid of helping
Speaker 3: like starve out the parasites, yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: A fucking that's a bogo right there.
Speaker 1: Skipping a meal, just chug like a half gallon of
Speaker 1: water in place of a meal. I promise you you're dehydrated,
Speaker 1: even if you think, yeah, I promise you dehydrate or
Speaker 1: get some water. If you're listening to this, by the way,
Speaker 1: why while you're here, take a sip of an actual water,
Speaker 1: not a coke or something okay, but yeah, it's skipping
Speaker 1: a meal is like actually good for you from time
Speaker 1: to time.
Speaker 3: I tell you what, Yeah, I tell you what too.
Speaker 3: Is that you know, whenever you're limited to what you
Speaker 3: can eat, like like how I am you understand that?
Speaker 3: Like whenever we get hungry when we're not on a diet,
Speaker 3: most of the time it's out of habit, Like am
Speaker 3: I am I hungry for a whopper? Or am I
Speaker 3: okay to go home and have a carblo tortilla with
Speaker 3: some unseasoned chicken breast and a little bit of butter?
Speaker 4: Like am I hungry for that? Because if I'm not
Speaker 4: hungry for that.
Speaker 3: Then I'm not hungry, right And that's how I look at.
Speaker 1: It, Like am I just hungry for beef right now?
Speaker 1: Like in reality? Do I want a whopper? Like yo,
Speaker 1: a couple slabs of jerk? You'll get me? Like on
Speaker 1: some real levels here, do I crave chicken nuggets? Or
Speaker 1: is it just like you know, a couple of strips
Speaker 1: of some chicken breast would would suit me right?
Speaker 3: And little do I know, little do I know? Am
Speaker 3: I saying go fuck yourself?
Speaker 1: Demon? There you go, get out of here.
Speaker 2: To get out of my house.
Speaker 1: You're not giving the demon a place within your temple,
Speaker 1: your your body, if you will, you're not giving the
Speaker 1: demon a place to reside.
Speaker 3: It's it's so biblical, bro, You're not welcome here, Yes
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: You know who is a master faster? Is that Jesus
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ? Yeah? Yeah, boy, guy was a master so
Speaker 2: and also he did it for spiritual reasons. And I
Speaker 2: will just throw in here now. When you're doing all
Speaker 2: these things, especially if you're not used to them, and
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, tomorrow, I'm gonna eat a little bit
Speaker 2: less long, right, it's still gonna eat all the same
Speaker 2: good stuff, meaning we're just singing a little bit less long.
Speaker 2: Or you're like, you know what, tomorrow, I'm gonna cut
Speaker 2: out something negative that I've been eating and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: replace it with an apple or a salad or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, any of these things you're doing, you will
Speaker 2: notice that you you will encounter emotional outbursts from yourself.
Speaker 2: And you can look at it both ways. You can
Speaker 2: look at it as one, like, this is my emotional
Speaker 2: shit I've been avoiding by eating this crap and by
Speaker 2: eating all the time, or you can say like on
Speaker 2: another level. Some aspect of this might be the parasites,
Speaker 2: the emotional, the mental, the spiritual, or the physical, right,
Speaker 2: and either way, this is something that you like you
Speaker 2: have to address now. And I deal with this all
Speaker 2: the time with people out who work with They're like, man,
Speaker 2: I just started like eating less or eating shorter, and
Speaker 2: I just started like crying and getting really angry. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's the stuff that's like suppressed within you, and
Speaker 2: that's maybe being triggered by parasites on other levels as well.
Speaker 1: And this isn't azing. This isn't like an emotion like
Speaker 1: I want to eat lunch. So just kid, stop cry,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's not what this is. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a random, out of nowhere outburst or this overwhelming you
Speaker 1: just start weeping out of nowhere. This has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with like meal times. Just so we're on the
Speaker 1: same page absolutely.
Speaker 2: So when I first started fasting longer periods, I had
Speaker 2: done intermint and fasting before and tried some of these
Speaker 2: other things. But I was I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go like twenty four hours this time, never done
Speaker 2: that before, and I just got so depressed. I was like,
Speaker 2: really sad, and I felt like I was like abandoned,
Speaker 2: Like I have all these abandoned feelings, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what is this? And then I started thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, when did I feel abandoned?
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, when I was young, we
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of food all the time, and
Speaker 2: we were really poor sometimes, and my parents were just
Speaker 2: like kind of absent, a lost And here I was,
Speaker 2: for the first time in my life since then, not
Speaker 2: having a lot of food, And so all of those
Speaker 2: old feelings came up again. Right for other people, you know,
Speaker 2: I know some people who are sexually abused will overeat
Speaker 2: for lots of different emotional reasons in response to that.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people when they then stop eating,
Speaker 2: if they've had that sort of a history, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, all of those emotions will come up. So
Speaker 2: we all have different way different things that are caught
Speaker 2: up and eating. Eating is this highly emotional thing for us.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying everybody has those, but a lot
Speaker 2: of people do, And a lot of people eating is
Speaker 2: like an addiction, right, which is usually avoiding some emotional
Speaker 2: stuff is what that usually is. So I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like if you're going on this journey, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: start taking these steps and you have some of that
Speaker 2: stuff come up, that's not a bad thing. While all
Speaker 2: you what you really want to do is just notice
Speaker 2: it and then just say to yourself, hey, I love me,
Speaker 2: I love you and me. You're doing a great job.
Speaker 2: And then also give yourself time to process the emotion,
Speaker 2: like let it out, just go yep, I feel that way,
Speaker 2: and I felt that way sometime to form. Maybe you're
Speaker 2: not consciously aware of what it is, that's cool too,
Speaker 2: but you can at least just say like, this is
Speaker 2: some old stuff and I'm just gonna let it out now.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna love myself through it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let myself do it, and I'm not going to eat
Speaker 2: in response to it. Right, I'm not gonna go get
Speaker 2: myself the comfort food to comfort myself through it because
Speaker 2: I want it to finally just release, let go. And
Speaker 2: if I keep eating through it or I keep doing
Speaker 2: whatever that response is, it's just going to stand there
Speaker 2: even longer. So you really have to take some like
Speaker 2: some real nice good care of yourself and so give
Speaker 2: yourself these really good, you know, loving experiences and energies
Speaker 2: through this, because that's what makes this really hard for
Speaker 2: most people. It's not that people are you know, don't
Speaker 2: know what to do or don't know how to do
Speaker 2: it necessarily. It's much more often that they've got these
Speaker 2: emotional mental things going on that are keeping them in
Speaker 2: these cycles. Right, and then a lot of it's unconscious.
Speaker 2: We didn't know that we were eating for this addictive reason.
Speaker 2: We just thought this is what you just eat this much,
Speaker 2: this is what everyone does. It's like, yeah, but not
Speaker 2: for good reasons, right, right, We're all kind of sick
Speaker 2: in many ways.
Speaker 3: It's whenever you start to get like get away from
Speaker 3: what is traditionally done, and that's like you can really
Speaker 3: put that with anything. But like if you start to
Speaker 3: understand the reasons why people have traditionally done things, most
Speaker 3: most of the reason, most of the time, people are
Speaker 3: only doing it because it's traditionally the way you've done things.
Speaker 3: The reason why we eat three or four meals of
Speaker 3: a day, well, it's because that's what everybody in the
Speaker 3: family did. That's what everybody I know does. There's what
Speaker 3: we're brought up.
Speaker 4: There's breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1: Unless you believe in Lord of the Rings and you
Speaker 1: get down with the hobbit meals you know whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but it's it's just understanding.
Speaker 3: It's really all this conversation is is just the awareness
Speaker 3: and not being so affected by your emotions and letting
Speaker 3: your emotions guide you into doing something that you really
Speaker 3: don't want to do, but maybe you know, the demons are.
Speaker 4: Making it seem like it like it is something that
Speaker 4: you want to do.
Speaker 3: And so man, that is so crazy about how I
Speaker 3: And that's why I love the conversation so much, because
Speaker 3: you really like brought it into perspective. Whenever we're talking
Speaker 3: about how these parasites are literally controlling how we think
Speaker 3: and tempting us with all these things that we know
Speaker 3: we shouldn't be, you know, interested in as much. At
Speaker 3: the bare minimum, I get it, you know, a little
Speaker 3: dab ain't gonna kill you. But whenever you're just over
Speaker 3: doing these things and you don't want to, Like, nobody
Speaker 3: wants to be five hundred pounds right right, but like.
Speaker 1: There's some people that do, but then they regret it
Speaker 1: once they get there.
Speaker 3: But it's yeah, you feel like your will is just
Speaker 3: being bent and that's why you know, that's what ultimately
Speaker 3: causes the anxiety and the depression, and along.
Speaker 1: With the legs of your chairs being bent constantly.
Speaker 4: I get that too, Tommy boil style.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm sorry, were you going?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So let's say somebody's listening for the first time they'd
Speaker 1: never heard Lindsay from Rogue Ways. They don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about with the parasites, and you say that
Speaker 1: all of us have parasites living within us. We can
Speaker 1: all agree to this to some degree. Even if you
Speaker 1: want to look at the probiotics in your body, that
Speaker 1: is still a living you know, a living organism, it's
Speaker 1: still a parasitic situation. Maybe for a positive reason, but
Speaker 1: either way. So if somebody is questioning, hey, I wonder
Speaker 1: if like what I'm dealing with is negative parasite connected
Speaker 1: like she's talking about, give a couple of and I
Speaker 1: know that your case is different because you had autoimmune situation,
Speaker 1: But for somebody that may not understand how this might
Speaker 1: apply to them, give a couple of like examples of Hey,
Speaker 1: this could be a symptom of this, this could cause this.
Speaker 1: Just go down the list.
Speaker 2: If you could oh, there's so many. I don't mind.
Speaker 2: Actually that all the symptoms are the symptoms of those
Speaker 2: same three categories, cancer or demyelination, degenerative nerve diseases, or
Speaker 2: autoimmune All of them are the same symptoms as parasite infestation.
Speaker 2: So there's no coincidence there by the way. But if
Speaker 2: you have things like you know, akey joints, or you
Speaker 2: have headaches for somewhat frequently, or just headaches that come
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know and then they're like
Speaker 2: gone or whatever. You have any kind of digestive issues,
Speaker 2: meaning any level of constipation, any level of loose tools
Speaker 2: sometimes right ibs, and all those things are this too.
Speaker 2: If you have any kind of bloating, if you have
Speaker 2: any level of gas that's more than like I don't
Speaker 2: know if you farts today, right, like everyone farts, but
Speaker 2: like if you fart more than a couple of times
Speaker 2: a day, you may not might be a fine of parasites.
Speaker 2: I literally like you could just say a symptom and
Speaker 2: that could be on the list of the symptoms of parasites.
Speaker 2: There's so many parasites in the world. There's many types
Speaker 2: of parasites, and they all end up affecting us in
Speaker 2: these ways because all of these symptoms are actually symptoms
Speaker 2: that your body doesn't have what it needs.
Speaker 1: So basically, I think the reason what anything chronic or
Speaker 1: anything long term that somebody's been dealing with for a
Speaker 1: while you're saying, or, well, that's not necessarily true because
Speaker 1: the same as like the Mexican water, if you drink that,
Speaker 1: you we immediately see the results of that parasite. So
Speaker 1: really and truly this could be a short term and
Speaker 1: or long term situation that you may or may not
Speaker 1: be dealing with.
Speaker 2: Yep, because as soon as you get the parasite, you
Speaker 2: might have a violent reaction to it. You might have
Speaker 2: an illness, it might seem like flu, you might have
Speaker 2: a severe allergic sort of reaction. But then it takes
Speaker 2: root and you won't have symptoms for a while because
Speaker 2: it's just sort of getting it's getting into wherever it
Speaker 2: can fit in, right, and then eventually you know, again
Speaker 2: the way this medical medium describes it, when you have
Speaker 2: these really stressful experiences in life, that parasite has this
Speaker 2: like opportunity, like, oh, the defenses are down because stress
Speaker 2: lowers all our defenses, so we're like super stressed out
Speaker 2: in the paris is like, oh cool, now I can
Speaker 2: get in even deeper. And then it goes into another
Speaker 2: organ or another area of your body, or another system
Speaker 2: of your body. And this is how you get to
Speaker 2: the point where you have cancer or autoimmune or degenerative diseases.
Speaker 2: So this is where it gets crazy. Now, this is
Speaker 2: something that apparently all parasitologists know, and some oncologists, which
Speaker 2: are the cancer doctors, some oncologists eventually discover. So this
Speaker 2: woman was a cancer she was on college, she's a
Speaker 2: cancer doctor. She was at some parents or sorry, some
Speaker 2: conference that had to do with cancer, but there also
Speaker 2: was a group there that were parasitologists. She just happened to,
Speaker 2: maybe even accidentally, I don't remember, go into one of
Speaker 2: the parasitologists, you know, talk and up on the big
Speaker 2: screen or whatever. He had a blest to site which
Speaker 2: is a cancer like baby cancer cell or something. I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure. I'm not a cancer person, but let's
Speaker 2: just say it's like a little baby cancer cell, said
Speaker 2: a blast side, but it said next to it like
Speaker 2: something like parasite egg or something. She was like, why
Speaker 2: does he have a cancer? So he must have got
Speaker 2: his slides mixed up or he just whatever you mislabeled
Speaker 2: this image he got it from. So afterwards she went
Speaker 2: to ask him, like, why did you say that that
Speaker 2: was a parasite egg, that was a blasticite And he
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you're just now figuring it out. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: all parasitetologists know that all cancer blasticites are parasite eggs.
Speaker 2: And she was like, she was like, no, this can't
Speaker 2: be And she went and she looked and she researched
Speaker 2: and researching. Yes, they are indistinguishable, meaning you could give
Speaker 2: a cancer doctor a picture or sample or the physical
Speaker 2: actual thing of a parasite egg and they'd say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cancer. And you could give a parasitologist the cancer
Speaker 2: blasticite and they'd say, yeah, that's a parasite egg. So
Speaker 2: what's the difference.
Speaker 3: Where where are all these parasitologists where like, yeah, are
Speaker 3: they very specialized? Are they screaming from the fucking mountaintops
Speaker 3: as far as you know this being the same thing
Speaker 3: as cancer? And are they just being silenced.
Speaker 1: Because you're the only person I've ever heard say this.
Speaker 1: Where are these parasitologists?
Speaker 2: So there's very few parasitologists in the world who wants
Speaker 2: to go study parasites, and some of them are then
Speaker 2: contracted by the Department of Defense and brought into biological
Speaker 2: programs and right other things that we are not supposed
Speaker 2: to even know about.
Speaker 1: And then the ones that didn't exist or whatever.
Speaker 2: And they're very rarely going to be funded. And if
Speaker 2: they are funded, it's to go do like different types
Speaker 2: of pair like the severe parasites that last for twenty
Speaker 2: years in the African you know, Savannah or whatever, and
Speaker 2: to find pharmaceutical responses to those. So the ones who
Speaker 2: are outside of any of those realms are rare, and
Speaker 2: they all know, and they all say it, but everyone
Speaker 2: says what the same thing they say. If you say
Speaker 2: I have a parasite, you are crazy. That's not possible.
Speaker 2: And that's the end of the story. You I went
Speaker 2: to my doctor before with UH so again, I have
Speaker 2: a severe I had. I am overcoming a severe late
Speaker 2: stage disease. I went to my doctor with very clear
Speaker 2: parasite SCIGNCE. I'm not saying now, I'm saying, like, beyond
Speaker 2: just the fact that we all have some at some
Speaker 2: level disturbing levels of parasite sign that I won't even
Speaker 2: share because it's disturbing, and I'm saying I have this,
Speaker 2: and they instantly start like, okay, this is a psyche
Speaker 2: patient now, and I'm not joking. They don't ever even
Speaker 2: for a second to consider that you might actually have
Speaker 2: a parasitic infection. This is despite that anybody with children
Speaker 2: will eventually probably be forced to admit that sometimes there's parasites.
Speaker 2: Kids are especially prone to pinworms for example. Yes, and
Speaker 2: we all know this, we all.
Speaker 1: Know in our household multiple times. I'm not gonna lie ooh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nightmare, and so so this we know
Speaker 2: what exists. But doctors, for whatever reason, are trained to
Speaker 2: tell you first that you're crazy, and at the very
Speaker 2: extreme end process perhaps actually test your fegal matter in
Speaker 2: a very extreme setting in which I think most people
Speaker 2: can't really produce poop because it's hard. You're like poop
Speaker 2: on command. Then this bucket you're like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 2: who's going to do that? That's rare, that's extreme, and
Speaker 2: then they might finally admit that you have some parasites.
Speaker 2: It's also not true, which they think they for whatever
Speaker 2: they've been trained by Rockfeller signs or whatever they think
Speaker 2: any time you poop you should have parasite site. No,
Speaker 2: parasites don't always produce the eggs and produce the sign
Speaker 2: that is going to come out. They're very good at
Speaker 2: staying in you. In fact, we know now there's things
Speaker 2: like biofilm that they create out of your body materials
Speaker 2: to hide in, like a sheathing that like your everything
Speaker 2: else will just go right by because it looks like
Speaker 2: your body, but it's not.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this?
Speaker 4: I have no.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just read a little article and it was a
Speaker 1: little one. It was basically saying, like new studies showing
Speaker 1: that it wasn't parasites. I think this was actually about tapeworms,
Speaker 1: but it's it's in the same realm. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: this goes from all parasites. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it was about tapeworms specifically, but I'm sure it
Speaker 1: covers all parasites. I mean, according to this it does.
Speaker 1: But basically it's saying that tapeworms getting harder to treat
Speaker 1: because they have adapted to now create a biofilm. Basically,
Speaker 1: they are letting your skin cells grow over them, and
Speaker 1: it is not like an artificial It is legitimately, they're
Speaker 1: embedding themselves in your skin to a level to where
Speaker 1: basically think about like a snorkel. They're they're under your skin,
Speaker 1: but they're still able to feed off of whatever they
Speaker 1: need to feed to. But they're getting to where it's
Speaker 1: like under the skin to where it might even take
Speaker 1: surgery in that regard to get some of these.
Speaker 3: Well, for all my for Alli Marvel dorks out there,
Speaker 3: this is like venom. Right, like venom, it's a parasite
Speaker 3: and it can't live unless it has the host. Therefore,
Speaker 3: it's going to try and do everything it can to
Speaker 3: maintain its position in that body so that it doesn't die. Right,
Speaker 3: this makes sense.
Speaker 2: So biofilm all it can be in your intestines, and
Speaker 2: most of it probably is it can be in your sinuses, right,
Speaker 2: and so you have to increase your body's level of
Speaker 2: health to the point that it can find, detect, break down,
Speaker 2: and get rid of this biofilm, which is hard for
Speaker 2: your body to do because it seems like your body.
Speaker 2: And this is also why you get autoimmune, because your
Speaker 2: body has figured out, oh, some of my body isn't
Speaker 2: my body, So I have to attack some of this stuff.
Speaker 2: And now you're reacting to that. It's not that your
Speaker 2: body's broken. Your body's actually so wise. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to help you, but in the meantime it
Speaker 2: might hurt a little bit, and I'm trying to save
Speaker 2: your life. Like it's extreme. So here's more evidence that
Speaker 2: cancer is parasites. And I know there's gonna be tons
Speaker 2: of people that like, no, not all cancer. I okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say most, if not all, cancer is parasites. One.
Speaker 2: Based on what we just talked about. Anybody can go
Speaker 2: try to research it. If there's anything left for you
Speaker 2: to find. Good luck, it's hard these days. But also
Speaker 2: we have plenty of evidence, plenty of stories billions okay,
Speaker 2: maybe not billions, but of animals and humans combined, perhaps
Speaker 2: billions of stories of people curing cancer through anti parasitic
Speaker 2: drugs ibermectin and fan benzidol. And we have so much.
Speaker 2: We have from doctors. We have doctors who are like,
Speaker 2: I'm astounded. This person had stage four, multi systemic, every
Speaker 2: organ saturated with cancer. We gave them two months to live.
Speaker 2: It's been ten years. How did they do it? They
Speaker 2: took fan benzidol just a little bit of it, even
Speaker 2: not even that much, like one course and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they had no cancer. Wow, how would that
Speaker 2: be possible unless cancer was a parasite every system of
Speaker 2: their body like. And you can find these stories everywhere,
Speaker 2: and especially in animals, because we're allowed, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: to give animals anti parasitic drugs and we're not, for
Speaker 2: some reason, allowed to give them to ourselves. So that's
Speaker 2: all out there for people to find. Tutor's search on
Speaker 2: YouTube for friend benzical cures cancer or ivermectin cures cancer.
Speaker 2: Search on rumbles, search from all of the other places,
Speaker 2: and you will find tons of these stories.
Speaker 3: And so the fenn benzidol and the ivermectin. You know,
Speaker 3: you're saying that it's mainly for animals, but we're able
Speaker 3: to ingest it too, because all it is is just
Speaker 3: anti parasitic. It doesn't matter, you know what the body
Speaker 3: that takes it.
Speaker 2: The human version is called something else. And I just
Speaker 2: say fen benzil because that's the one I can buy
Speaker 2: because it's for animals and we're allowed to buy it
Speaker 2: without a prescription. So that's what I take. Okay, So
Speaker 2: I've done ivermectin and fen benzidol. Finally, I will add
Speaker 2: two that everyone used to treat for parasites once a
Speaker 2: year or twice a year. Everyone. It was just done.
Speaker 2: People just treated themselves for parasites. People who still live
Speaker 2: out in the country are people who still live without
Speaker 2: doctors at their beck and you know, command or whatever.
Speaker 2: They still treat themselves and their children and their animals
Speaker 2: for parasites at least once a year. And they do
Speaker 2: this with turpentine, and they do it with other methods,
Speaker 2: but tine is a really good one.
Speaker 3: The castor oil.
Speaker 1: Cast roil was also used once point in time. Wasn't
Speaker 1: it to prove your point?
Speaker 2: Tobacco?
Speaker 1: Yes to bat all right? Hitting tobacco to prove your point.
Speaker 1: Once upon a gap, there was a black and white
Speaker 1: series called Little Rascals maybe you've heard of it.
Speaker 3: Good shit.
Speaker 1: There was one particular episode where Spanky had his little
Speaker 1: brother with him. In this episode, Spanky and a little
Speaker 1: brother and uh, he had a bottle of castor oil,
Speaker 1: and it was like, what was that for worms? And
Speaker 1: it was so normal. It was so understood that a
Speaker 1: kid would just be siping on castrole because he's got
Speaker 1: he's treating himself for worms right now. It's it was
Speaker 1: so understood. It was in a children's program based in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 3: I always heard castorrole was great for like women who
Speaker 3: are trying to like hurry up and push their baby
Speaker 3: out quicker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that too. Yeah, and it's also good
Speaker 2: for your liver. People do castor oil packs on their
Speaker 2: liver to also release toxins, which I would say again,
Speaker 2: if you're going to do that, you should do an
Speaker 2: anima right afterwards.
Speaker 1: But but I'm not saying the castrole is a good
Speaker 1: use for for D. My point is, though, that the
Speaker 1: process of a kid just going through a deworming process
Speaker 1: of whatever they thought to the technology of the time,
Speaker 1: understand that that was so normal. It was brought up
Speaker 1: on a children's program. It wasn't even seen as a
Speaker 1: weird thing, not crazy, that wasn't even a huge plot point.
Speaker 1: That was just like a little thing he happened to
Speaker 1: be doing that episode. It has funny, nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the plot.
Speaker 4: Funny, not crazy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's also you know a lot of people
Speaker 2: will be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are you taking
Speaker 2: fen Ben's little ivermectin? You're talking about the allopathic system.
Speaker 2: You're trying to get off your medications, and I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if you have late stage cancer, if you have late
Speaker 2: stage autoimmune, if you have degenerative diseases, it might be
Speaker 2: good to go with the hard stuff. If you don't
Speaker 2: and you want to try some parasite cleansing, you would
Speaker 2: just eat less carbs or no carbs, right, You would
Speaker 2: just do that for like thirty days or more, and
Speaker 2: that would kill all the parasites within you. You might
Speaker 2: do some turpentine if you just want to try that,
Speaker 2: and protocol there's a very specific way to do it.
Speaker 2: Please don't ever just drink turpent time. In fact, you
Speaker 2: do anything that I say, just go to your medical
Speaker 2: advisors and do what they say. I will say, you know,
Speaker 2: for legal reasons as well, although I firmly again I
Speaker 2: don't go to doctors. I treat myself.
Speaker 1: So anyways, right, we had to get reasons for sure, right.
Speaker 2: But also you could take like wormwood and black walma
Speaker 2: and these types of herbs. And if you don't, again,
Speaker 2: if you're a healthy person, pretty healthy and you that'll
Speaker 2: work for you. That didn't work for me because I
Speaker 2: was in a lady stage, what works for you?
Speaker 1: You like absinthe?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever actually had absent of
Speaker 2: it on top of like a whiskey once or something.
Speaker 2: And that's it. Yeah, I don't know what actual absent.
Speaker 1: Oh, first off, I don't know if you drink or not,
Speaker 1: but at least experience it once just to say you did.
Speaker 1: Do you like Jaeger?
Speaker 2: I hate Jaeger. I don't drink anymore either, thinking a
Speaker 2: while ago for the spiritual parasites, get rid of them.
Speaker 1: So absence is like a menthol Jaeger. And that's the
Speaker 1: flavor of wormwood. So you're saying, like, take that like yo.
Speaker 1: If somebody wants menthol liquorice in their life, like yo,
Speaker 1: it is that is exactly what this is. But man,
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of it. Yeah, but there's
Speaker 1: other methods. There's other ways.
Speaker 4: I don't even like cough syrup, so no, no thank
Speaker 4: you on that.
Speaker 1: Depends on the cough syrup.
Speaker 2: Y know.
Speaker 1: I do love me some niquil. We'll talk about put
Speaker 1: me in a coma toast because you know how sep.
Speaker 3: Bro anyway, lindsay continue, I'm sorry we go off on
Speaker 3: these little escapades here.
Speaker 2: Well, this is why I've collected, like so many protocols.
Speaker 2: They're all leading to the same place, though, And so
Speaker 2: if people want to go on my substack where it's
Speaker 2: rogueways dot substack dot com, and any of my health
Speaker 2: articles are free for anybody, I think you still have
Speaker 2: to subscribe technically, but you can subscribe at their free level,
Speaker 2: and all of them should link to each other, and
Speaker 2: all of them are fantastically good. And I would say,
Speaker 2: especially if you're in a late stage of do as
Speaker 2: much of it as you can do, because the more
Speaker 2: you're supporting your body to regenerate and to get rid
Speaker 2: of the toxins and get rid of the parasites, the
Speaker 2: better you're going to be. So again, parasites probably in everyone.
Speaker 2: If you're relatively healthy, they're not going to take root.
Speaker 2: If you're relatively unhealthy, they probably are going to take root.
Speaker 2: And if you're adding onto that any kind of a
Speaker 2: toxic lifestyle, like some of the things I've mentioned, like
Speaker 2: having smoked crystal meth when I was young, or you know,
Speaker 2: dipping my hands in these crazy toxins for no good reason,
Speaker 2: anything like that. Parasites eat toxins, Parasites love toxins. Parasites
Speaker 2: will flourish in a toxic environment. So being overweight or
Speaker 2: OBEs having a high toxicity level and other levels of
Speaker 2: disease are going to promote parasites. And so anything you
Speaker 2: can do to reduce all of those things, reduce exposure
Speaker 2: to those things, Increase the really high good nutrient dense
Speaker 2: stuff that is good for your body, cut out the
Speaker 2: carbs as much as possible, unless you're a woman at
Speaker 2: certain times of your cycle. According to mindy peals right,
Speaker 2: you know, then those are all good things. But again,
Speaker 2: you can get fenn benzil and I Remectin from pets suppliers.
Speaker 2: I will just add I have links to those on
Speaker 2: my substack, or people can just go to second Smartest
Speaker 2: Guy in the World dot com. It's two not the
Speaker 2: word second, but two and d second smartest guy in
Speaker 2: the world, and every pretty much everything he posts has
Speaker 2: his link to Fenbenzidl and I Reme for pets, So
Speaker 2: you can buy them for your pets, and it's exactly
Speaker 2: the same as what you would get for yourself if
Speaker 2: it was prescribed to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you this. Now we're talking
Speaker 1: about our physical bodies and we're talking about detoxifying them
Speaker 1: and doing this through our diet and through our lifestyle choices,
Speaker 1: and all that does connect to the mental and the
Speaker 1: physical and the spiritual and all these things I absolutely
Speaker 1: agree do connect through the silver cord if you will.
Speaker 1: But now, what are you doing as far as the
Speaker 1: mental side?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yes, de paraciting? Is that the word deep deep de parasit?
Speaker 1: I don't know, taken out the bugs? Okay, that doing
Speaker 1: this absolutely will help your mental status. It will absolutely
Speaker 1: help your spiritual well being one thousand percent. But aside
Speaker 1: from that, it's not like that's the one cure for
Speaker 1: all these things. There's other work you have to do
Speaker 1: for the mental and spiritual as well. Now, your spiritual
Speaker 1: we could talk about that for days, but let's talk
Speaker 1: mental for a second. Aside from your dietary plan, what
Speaker 1: are you personally doing to better your mental status as well?
Speaker 2: Oh? So, my favorite tools are mantras because they are
Speaker 2: reprogramming tools. Your your brain is a programming machine. Your
Speaker 2: mind is a programmed result.
Speaker 1: It's a computer, absolutely computer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you want to take in good things just
Speaker 2: like you do with your physical body. So I try
Speaker 2: to like have good positive music and positive shows, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they're not all that positive, but I then at
Speaker 2: least put my positive spin on it. So if I
Speaker 2: want to take in some news and it's like apocalyptic,
Speaker 2: I'll just go like, well, you know, I'm okay here
Speaker 2: and there's my way to survive this whatever. So I
Speaker 2: put my own positive spin on those things. If I do,
Speaker 2: you take them in. And mantras are this fantastic way
Speaker 2: to program yourself. So no matter what you're doing right
Speaker 2: and for me, it's like I'm getting rid of any parasites.
Speaker 2: No parasites are allowed to live in my body. Right.
Speaker 2: That's like, for example, in mantra, I could use I
Speaker 2: sit down in the morning, I do an infrared sauna
Speaker 2: every day. That's another super good healing tool for your mitochondriam,
Speaker 2: for your whole system and for it's just very and
Speaker 2: it helps sweat, which is another way that detox. And
Speaker 2: while I'm in that sauna, I will meditate and visualize
Speaker 2: the toxins leaving my body or I will do this
Speaker 2: mantra like toxins are leaving my body, parasites are leaving
Speaker 2: my body. They're not welcome here, They're gone now, right,
Speaker 2: And I'll just use these mantras. I'll say them over
Speaker 2: and over again. And when I do that and then
Speaker 2: I go do my enema, I have way more results.
Speaker 2: It's not I have tried it over and over again
Speaker 2: the days like I won't do it at all. And
Speaker 2: then I'll do my enema. I'll be fine. I'll do
Speaker 2: the days and I'll say the mantras and I'll do
Speaker 2: the visualization a huge massive cleansing.
Speaker 1: So you are speaking them into existence. You are physically
Speaker 1: going out of your way. You're not just thinking them,
Speaker 1: because that's good, it does work regard as well. But
Speaker 1: you are physically speaking them. You are manifesting that these
Speaker 1: things are coming out of my body there and welcome here.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get a little I'm gonna get a
Speaker 3: little woo wou raid here.
Speaker 1: Let's go do.
Speaker 4: Because why not? We got Lindsay on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so everybody knows that I do the
Speaker 3: hypnosis stuff. Anybody that wants to visit a past life
Speaker 3: or anything, please email me at Cult of Conspiracy Podcasts
Speaker 3: at yahoo dot com.
Speaker 4: We can set up a session. They're one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: If you're a member of Patreon, a rockfin very very
Speaker 3: very beneficial to your life moving forward.
Speaker 1: Forget you need to come be members of Patreon and
Speaker 1: rock fan.
Speaker 3: While we're all on the topic anyway, Yes, Yes, So
Speaker 3: basically why I wanted to bring that up is is
Speaker 3: that I've been having a lot of sessions here lately
Speaker 3: because I've been promoting it a little bit more and
Speaker 3: letting people know that I'm doing these and all of
Speaker 3: the crazy benefits that people are are getting from it,
Speaker 3: whether it just be emotional or spiritual, sometimes even physical.
Speaker 1: Let's get weird, why not?
Speaker 3: Uh not, let's get weird in that way, but you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But you know a lot of
Speaker 3: people are seeing a lot of benefits from this. And
Speaker 3: why I bring that up is because you know, obviously
Speaker 3: that is something that is taught from Dolores Cannon. Well,
Speaker 3: Dolores Cannon she talked a lot about in her books
Speaker 3: and a lot of her interviews. She talked about how
Speaker 3: we are all going to be shifting to the New Earth.
Speaker 3: She called it like the five d Earth or the
Speaker 3: New Earth or whatever, right, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: were like, well, I mean, you know, is everybody going
Speaker 3: Is there going to be some people that stay back,
Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, there's gonna be some people that
Speaker 3: stay back. There's gonna be some people that don't shift
Speaker 3: into this this new like frequency of this new literal earth.
Speaker 3: And you know, I guess some of the people were
Speaker 3: just like, well, I mean, what if I want to
Speaker 3: stay What if I want to help out some of
Speaker 3: the other people that like haven't brought up their vibration
Speaker 3: or their frequency. What if I want to stay back
Speaker 3: and help them bring it up so they can come
Speaker 3: along too. And she goes, well, that's fine, but you got.
Speaker 4: To be careful with that.
Speaker 3: And now an example of that would be, you know
Speaker 3: that there are a lot of people out there who
Speaker 3: who want to better their life, who are trying to
Speaker 3: surround their self and with positive activity and trying to
Speaker 3: get rid of all the negativity and every and everything
Speaker 3: like that. But at the same time, you know, you
Speaker 3: are who you associate yourself with. So you're if you're
Speaker 3: hanging out with fucking you know, low vibrational beings and
Speaker 3: you know exactly who I mean. Whenever I say that,
Speaker 3: who are they don't bring nothing good to the table.
Speaker 1: You know, there's always it's always.
Speaker 3: Just judgmental or or harsh or mean or rude or
Speaker 3: only very you know, very selfish or whatever.
Speaker 1: You might be related to this person, you might work
Speaker 1: with this person. You don't know.
Speaker 3: If you don't know that person, If you don't know
Speaker 3: that person, you're probably that person. Let's just be real
Speaker 3: and so that that's really where, you know, I think
Speaker 3: that in order to get rid of a lot of
Speaker 3: the parasites of our life, first we have to to
Speaker 3: you know, like I always try and tell my wife, like, look,
Speaker 3: if you're ever really stressed out or have anxiety, just
Speaker 3: clean the house, and like that's that's really the best thing.
Speaker 4: You can do.
Speaker 3: So don't worry so much about And this is not
Speaker 3: a selfish thing, Like it's not your duty to save everybody,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, don't hang out with somebody because all
Speaker 3: what they need you or oh this or oh that,
Speaker 3: If they're bringing you down, then there's no need for
Speaker 3: that anymore. Get rid of that parasite, and that way
Speaker 3: you're able to move forward and start seeing the positivity
Speaker 3: in life. And I've done a lot of that here lately.
Speaker 1: Cut the dead weight, so to speak.
Speaker 3: Bro. Let me tell you my life is completely just
Speaker 3: surrounded in I mean, it's it's not always going to
Speaker 3: be positive every single second of the day, but for
Speaker 3: the most part it's been heavily upgraded.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I just want to bring that up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this is like the thing you know, and
Speaker 2: my most recent health article actually was called only you
Speaker 2: can heal you, and that's absolutely true. And even you
Speaker 2: know you're healing people through your past life stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: healing people through my spiritual work stuff. But we're not
Speaker 2: actually doing it. We're providing this space, the time, and
Speaker 2: the energy for them to heal themselves. Actually, this is
Speaker 2: what anyone has to do, and any good kealer knows
Speaker 2: that a the healing energy isn't coming for me, It's
Speaker 2: coming from God or whatever you want to call it. Right,
Speaker 2: And also you're the one who's actually doing it. I'm
Speaker 2: here to witness and help and support and that's about it.
Speaker 2: Actually whatever people go, no, yeah, but give your self credit,
Speaker 2: Well sure, yes, but you're still the one healing you.
Speaker 2: You chose to come, you chose to take it in,
Speaker 2: you chose to do it. But that so switch that
Speaker 2: back around and look at that person who you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: but they need me, You're oh, but look, oh they're
Speaker 2: trying so hard. Oh they're just their life was so
Speaker 2: hard and so now they need all these excuses. And
Speaker 2: then just say to yourself, are they healing them And
Speaker 2: if the answer is no, they're not, then go well
Speaker 2: then I can't either, so bye bye. Like and when
Speaker 2: you do that, you then realize you have all this
Speaker 2: more energy and you can heal yourself more. And when
Speaker 2: you become a more healed person, you automatically allow everyone
Speaker 2: around you to heal themselves more too, because they see
Speaker 2: it and they go, oh, I want some of that,
Speaker 2: or do they see you doing these things and go
Speaker 2: oh that it might be a good way for me
Speaker 2: to do it, or they find that you have what
Speaker 2: they need and you can share it with them because
Speaker 2: they ask you for it. But they're still the ones
Speaker 2: healing themselves. So anyone not doing that same what we
Speaker 2: said before, or do you want to No you don't
Speaker 2: or you would so are they no? Then bye bye?
Speaker 1: I love how you have you have the same mentality
Speaker 1: as like a personal trainer. Like this person that was
Speaker 1: like three hundred pounds and now they are like a
Speaker 1: very cut one forty five and it's like they cannot
Speaker 1: praise their personal trainer enough because like they couldn't have
Speaker 1: done it without them, and this and this, and the
Speaker 1: trainer always one hundred percent of the time, it's like, look,
Speaker 1: I like coached you, but like you're the one that
Speaker 1: lifted the weight. You're the one that's sweated, Like I
Speaker 1: might've been here sweating with you, yeah, but like you're
Speaker 1: the one that actually put forth the work in the
Speaker 1: effort to get to where you're going. Bro. So I
Speaker 1: love that you have the exact same mentality, and so
Speaker 1: do you y'all. Don't y'all are not doing this and
Speaker 1: helping these people in these ways, they're helping themselves. You're
Speaker 1: just there to maybe guide them a bit.
Speaker 3: Lindsey, I would love to get you on my other
Speaker 3: podcast here soon called Meta Mysteries, and basically what we
Speaker 3: it's it's me and my cousin Sean. We've I think
Speaker 3: we've done I don't know, seven or eight episodes or
Speaker 3: something like that, but we go into just literally just
Speaker 3: trying to understand reality itself and just very open my mind.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked about the you know, the
Speaker 3: the Akashic records or the astral field or you know,
Speaker 3: all of these other things that are not seen but
Speaker 3: understood in a way. Once you kind of start dabbling
Speaker 3: into that, and I know that you're somebody who is
Speaker 3: you know, you're you know you're You're into a lot
Speaker 3: of the the meta shit astral and the astro and
Speaker 3: and the tarot and and everything.
Speaker 4: And I love how you're into that. So I would
Speaker 4: love to have you.
Speaker 3: On a meta mysteries podcast.
Speaker 4: That would just be awesome, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to. Yeah, any thoughts. That's my
Speaker 2: bread and butter. That's what I do most often. This,
Speaker 2: this physical healing and the parasite stuff is like a
Speaker 2: side tangent for me on the way. But you know,
Speaker 2: like we said, as you're healing your physical body, you're
Speaker 2: actually opening up more to the spiritual. Your mind's becoming
Speaker 2: more clear, your emotional self is releasing all those old
Speaker 2: traumas and all those old stuff, all the toxins are
Speaker 2: leaving you. And this is that higher level spiritual self
Speaker 2: that all of us has is now more able to
Speaker 2: be like hey, don't go down that alleyway, or like hey,
Speaker 2: and like our intuition increases and what I call our
Speaker 2: spiritual channels starts to open up more. And again, let's
Speaker 2: go back to like the Master Jesus, right, he fasted,
Speaker 2: he took care of himself, and he didn't force anybody
Speaker 2: to get healthy. He was like, I'm the light and
Speaker 2: the way follow me.
Speaker 1: You do it.
Speaker 2: You heal you right, right, And that's just the way.
Speaker 2: That's the way it is. So all of these things
Speaker 2: are actually one thing. Right. We can talk about physical
Speaker 2: health all we want, but eventually we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about mental health. We can talk about mental health we want.
Speaker 2: Eventually were going to talk about emotional health. We can
Speaker 2: talk about all of those all we want, and eventually
Speaker 2: it's going to become spiritual. They're all one thing. Actually,
Speaker 2: they all heal together. And I tell people this too.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of spiritual teaching and coaching and
Speaker 2: all of this stuff as well, and I always am
Speaker 2: saying this, like if you want to when people are like, well,
Speaker 2: how do I become psychic or how do I get
Speaker 2: my healing abilities? Or how do I get my spiritual gifts?
Speaker 2: You already have them, right, But what you all have
Speaker 2: to do is you have to remove the blockages. And
Speaker 2: that happens on the physical, and it happens on the mental,
Speaker 2: and it happens on the emotional and when you're doing
Speaker 2: it on one level, you're gonna end up doing it
Speaker 2: on all the other levels too. It's not going to
Speaker 2: be avoidable because they're all connected.
Speaker 1: I get this. Okay, So you said that you're a
Speaker 1: shamanistic healer. Now I did want to ask more about that,
Speaker 1: so aside from actually give me a little bit more
Speaker 1: description on that, because usually when I hear shaman or shamanistic,
Speaker 1: it usually just and usually and this could be improperly
Speaker 1: used by the people I've heard it from before, but
Speaker 1: typically just means that they go on mushroom trips and
Speaker 1: they just.
Speaker 3: Know shit plant medicine.
Speaker 1: So to say, yeah, which again, hey, I got nothing
Speaker 1: against it's from the earth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, But is that what you are about,
Speaker 1: or when you say shamanic, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the more universal that is very
Speaker 2: much a thing that a lot of shamans do. I'd
Speaker 2: say that even more universal way of using it would
Speaker 2: be just someone who can go to the other side, right,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call that, and then come back
Speaker 2: with something. So, so I use this in that term.
Speaker 2: I don't use plant medicines anymore myself, unless I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. If I really felt like I needed
Speaker 2: to and I was guided to, I would. I've used
Speaker 2: some plenty in my life, but I don't use them
Speaker 2: anymore because I have a plenty wide enough channel without them,
Speaker 2: and I received enough and I can go to that
Speaker 2: side easily without them, So I don't need them. And
Speaker 2: that's not to say there's no judgment in that. That's
Speaker 2: just where I'm at, Like, I don't want to use them.
Speaker 2: I have every love of every plant medicine, and I'm
Speaker 2: happy if people are using them in the ways that
Speaker 2: are best for them. I don't use them anymore for
Speaker 2: that way. But I do you know, I'd say, travel
Speaker 2: to other dimensions and come back with information and energy
Speaker 2: or however you want to describe that. So I both
Speaker 2: go into what I call spiritual states, which people are like, well,
Speaker 2: is that like a trance or is that like self hypnosis?
Speaker 2: And I just say, yes, it's like both of those things, right.
Speaker 2: Deep meditation would also be similar, and this is just
Speaker 2: maybe you want to call it an altered mind state,
Speaker 2: but for me, it's pretty easy. It's pretty close always
Speaker 2: to where I'm already at and so I go into
Speaker 2: that state in that place, and or another way to
Speaker 2: describe it is I open my spiritual channels and information
Speaker 2: comes in, which is also to say that light comes
Speaker 2: in or energy comes in, because they're all actually just
Speaker 2: one thing. And so sometimes I see that in my
Speaker 2: spiritual eye, and sometimes I'm hearing it inside of my
Speaker 2: mind right or sometimes I'm just knowing it. I just
Speaker 2: understand it. Sometimes I feel it physically in my body
Speaker 2: as well, And so I have all these different ways
Speaker 2: of receiving it, and then I'm sharing it with the person,
Speaker 2: and a lot of times that's me just telling them
Speaker 2: the information or telling them what I see or telling
Speaker 2: them what I hear. But more often what I've learned
Speaker 2: is the person is actually also just receiving this energy too,
Speaker 2: because they're in that field and consciously intentionally connected and
Speaker 2: open to receiving it. And this would be the same
Speaker 2: I would say as if somebody went into their own
Speaker 2: deep meditative state, or they went into deep prayer and
Speaker 2: requested the assistance of like Jesus or the angels or
Speaker 2: saints or Buddhas or whoever people relate to best and
Speaker 2: received some of that energy. So the way I see
Speaker 2: it and understand it is that's directly from whatever we
Speaker 2: want to call heaven. I call it heaven. I like Jesus,
Speaker 2: I like heaven, I like angels. I default to some
Speaker 2: of these terms, but I don't really care how people
Speaker 2: describe it to themselves. And you know, in my path
Speaker 2: of coming into this, uh, this place, in this role
Speaker 2: or this job, right, I was trained exclusively by by
Speaker 2: Shamans until really recently. I've had some other some Eastern
Speaker 2: teachers as well, but for a long period of my
Speaker 2: life it was only Shamans. I would just end up
Speaker 2: in their laugh and again, just like I resisted channeling,
Speaker 2: I was always like, these people are fakes and frauds,
Speaker 2: Like what are these people trying to?
Speaker 1: But then there's also a lot of people in this field.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to say the wu wou field.
Speaker 1: Let's call it the field.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're taking back the term. It's all.
Speaker 4: It's a good thing.
Speaker 1: But in the field that y'all work in, in the
Speaker 1: field that are people that we know work in. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, sure, I could absolutely see how
Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of phonies. I could totally see
Speaker 1: how Like I mean, if you dig hard enough into
Speaker 1: somebody like, oh see this person is not even real. Well,
Speaker 1: I really woke. They just went to a yoga class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about you're talking about the televangelists, so
Speaker 3: to say of the wu Wuo.
Speaker 1: The Charlatans of the wu Woo, which there is a
Speaker 1: very large camp of people to say the entire movement
Speaker 1: is that. But then hey, there's an even larger camp
Speaker 1: to say that the Christian Church is also even Charlatan.
Speaker 3: Here Joel Ostein of Woo Woo you know there, yeah, go,
Speaker 3: there's plenty of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so there are.
Speaker 2: I just would end up and I seriously like, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't even be trying, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: just be like with a shaman and they'd be like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna heal you, so, you know, sit down and
Speaker 2: here's a healing and I'd be like whatever, it was
Speaker 2: this bullshit, but I guess I'll just go along fit
Speaker 2: and see. And then crazy things that I could not
Speaker 2: explain would happened in my whole life would change. But
Speaker 2: I was like, well, what was that? And eventually I
Speaker 2: just had to like acknowledge, like, yeah, that stuff is
Speaker 2: real for some people. Then and then I had to
Speaker 2: go like, well, why was that? Why did this happen?
Speaker 2: I didn't seek it, I didn't want it, I didn't
Speaker 2: choose it. Why is this happening to me? And then
Speaker 2: someone would be put in my path who needed what
Speaker 2: I had been taught and given, and I would be like,
Speaker 2: I mean, here's this, We'll try it. I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: be like I'm a Sean and I can heal you.
Speaker 2: I would just be like, here, wait, let's try this,
Speaker 2: and we would do it and it would work with
Speaker 2: profound results, and I was like, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: I was given that for a reason, right, And eventually,
Speaker 2: after how many decades, I had to just admit that
Speaker 2: I have these gifts. I was given this teachings and
Speaker 2: these practices and these modalities for a reason. And finally
Speaker 2: I got really clear with my spiritual channels enough to
Speaker 2: really be able to hear and understand my guides and allies,
Speaker 2: my angels and whoever well enough that when they were like, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're opposed to just do this, like you're just supposed
Speaker 2: to help heal people with these practices, and I was
Speaker 2: like embarrassed. I was like, no, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be this person that I hated before and that I
Speaker 2: thought was a fraud before, but I just had to
Speaker 2: do it, and I've done it, and I get the
Speaker 2: same response. I get people who are like, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: like you you swear and you like whatever. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not a perfect person, and also I have this
Speaker 2: and whoever wants it. And what I've found is the
Speaker 2: people who feel drawn to me and called to me,
Speaker 2: I have exactly what they need. And the people who don't,
Speaker 2: there someone else somewhere else down on the road will
Speaker 2: like maybe help them or whatever. It doesn't matter. And
Speaker 2: if people don't like it, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: How many of those people We're not going to listen
Speaker 1: to you anyway. How many of those people were already
Speaker 1: had a predisposition to whatever you were going to try
Speaker 1: to do for them, and it didn't matter what you
Speaker 1: showed them. It's like, yo, okay whatever.
Speaker 2: So it's like all right, you know, well, and I've
Speaker 2: never tried because I'm also like I don't care. I
Speaker 2: don't care if anyone wants it, doesn't want it, likes it,
Speaker 2: doesn't like it. I just know that My guidance and
Speaker 2: my soul was like, you do this now, and I
Speaker 2: was like, cool, I'll do this now. And again, everyone
Speaker 2: who's come to receive that has gotten fantastic energy from it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes this was true. Before I've been started doing
Speaker 2: spiritual healing, I was into tarot and I would do
Speaker 2: tarot readings, and sometimes someone will come to you and
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, you can just feel it, and well,
Speaker 2: I can just feel it and tell that they are
Speaker 2: like very dubious and they're skeptical. In fact, the reason
Speaker 2: they're doing it is to disprove it to themselves. They
Speaker 2: want to not experience something and not receive answers and
Speaker 2: not write because they want to tell themselves all this
Speaker 2: is bullshit and this person is bullshit. And those people
Speaker 2: are the hardest people, not because again that I care
Speaker 2: what they think or not, but because when you're not
Speaker 2: choosing openly to be a part of the field that's
Speaker 2: created and the connection to Heaven, the energy that's created,
Speaker 2: it's way harder to pull the things through.
Speaker 3: I agree more. And so it's like, you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like the more open you are towards just whatever
Speaker 3: whatever comes to you, you know, like just being this
Speaker 3: energetic body of the universe or of the creator or
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. I find that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of you'll start to notice a lot of like
Speaker 3: weird synchronicities, like insanely like like beyond coincidental. Throw that
Speaker 3: shit out the window, because I'm talking about it's absurd
Speaker 3: how many synchronicities happen. And an example, I mean not
Speaker 3: to plug the Meta Mysteries podcast, which you haven't gone
Speaker 3: and done, so definitely go check that out. But this
Speaker 3: is something that me and my cousin Sean, we actually
Speaker 3: just did a show on on you know, like numerology
Speaker 3: and synchronicities and stuff like that. So I know that
Speaker 3: people on this show probably heard a section of this
Speaker 3: story before, but I'll say it again. So I created
Speaker 3: the Cult of Conspiracy a little over three years ago,
Speaker 3: and I was literally I I I pushed the show
Speaker 3: from being created for so long because I wasn't sure
Speaker 3: what I wanted to name it, such like literally the
Speaker 3: dumbest reason to push off something that you really want
Speaker 3: to do, and so I prastination, uh right, right, And
Speaker 3: so I was like, man, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna go with it. And the reason so I had
Speaker 3: always wanted to call it the Cult of conspiracy. But
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but the acronym is gonna be
Speaker 3: cock and I was like, I don't want it to be.
Speaker 4: Like that, and I was, you know, I was just
Speaker 4: thinking too heavy on it.
Speaker 3: But I was like, you know what, nobody's gonna call
Speaker 3: it cock like and still to this day, nobody has.
Speaker 1: It's funny because CEOC is actually chain of command. So
Speaker 1: in my brain when I see CEC, I think of,
Speaker 1: like from my military days, I think of like straight
Speaker 1: up the order of leadership. I'm not saying that's what
Speaker 1: we are, but the acronym to me resonates a whole
Speaker 1: different way.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just a perve then. But but anyway,
Speaker 3: but what I was, what I was saying is is
Speaker 3: that it wasn't until you know, a year year and
Speaker 3: a half in that I that I started learning about
Speaker 3: numerology and and you know, uh jamatria and stuff how
Speaker 3: all that works. And I found out the cult of conspiracy,
Speaker 3: you know in uh in in numerology boils down to
Speaker 3: eleven and wow.
Speaker 4: And then I was like, oh, I wonder what my
Speaker 4: name is.
Speaker 3: My my first and last name combined equal eleven. My first,
Speaker 3: middle and last name equal eleven, and so whenever my
Speaker 3: my cousin Sean, you know, we were talking and we
Speaker 3: were thinking about, you know, what we should what we
Speaker 3: should call the new podcast the Meta Mysteries, because initially
Speaker 3: it was The Library of Conspiracies, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't want it to be conspiratory. Conspiratorial already have
Speaker 3: one of those shows, so let's make it something different.
Speaker 3: And you know, we would always talk on the phone
Speaker 3: for literally hours just about what could be possible in
Speaker 3: the universe. I was like, dude, let's that's us, let's
Speaker 3: learn more. And so we were trying to come up
Speaker 3: with a with a name of a show, and and
Speaker 3: in the beginning he was like, bro, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Ever since we started doing this, I just been seeing
Speaker 3: one one one literally everywhere, and I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's the craziest thing about And he goes like, literally
Speaker 3: everywhere I look, I've seen it probably twenty times in
Speaker 3: the last three days. I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 3: is going on, And a lot of other crazy synchronicities.
Speaker 3: You know, we started talking about the matrix, and then
Speaker 3: literally the day after we're done talking about the matrix,
Speaker 3: he goes, his wife went shopping, right, His wife went
Speaker 3: shopping for for uh for for school for their kids,
Speaker 3: for uniforms and pencils and shit, and and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got everything for the kids, and she goes, I
Speaker 3: didn't get anything for myself. But then she goes, oh wait,
Speaker 3: yeah I did get myself one thing. I got a
Speaker 3: red dress. And we were like, what the fuck? That
Speaker 3: is so insane, And so then we were like, you
Speaker 3: know what, it would be really cool to, you know,
Speaker 3: to name the podcast something along those lines of, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: just something weird, something meaningful, and literally out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: And this is why I asked you that.
Speaker 3: Whole channeling question earlier too, because I feel like I
Speaker 3: kind of get these downloads in a weird way at
Speaker 3: the same time, and out of nowhere, I get this
Speaker 3: fucking thought. And I was like, meta mysteries. It has
Speaker 3: to be that, right, And so now here Sean is
Speaker 3: so here I am with the eleven eleven right, like
Speaker 3: I'm eleven the pot my culture conspiracy is eleven. I
Speaker 3: did Sean's name, He's a one, right, and so, and
Speaker 3: then I came up with the meta mysteries. And that's
Speaker 3: also if it's metamisteries, it's one. If it's metamistery, it's eleven.
Speaker 3: And so now here's Sean and me and all these ones.
Speaker 3: And while you kept on seeing all those ones, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: the fucking synchronicities are insane. You can't ignore them. You
Speaker 3: just got to keep on going with it, and don't
Speaker 3: be scared and fucking just open yourself up to it.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Look, I don't even mind that. That's a plug and
Speaker 1: a half and it's well deserved. If you haven't already
Speaker 1: gone and done so, go check out Meta Mysteries. Hit
Speaker 1: that like, and that followed, the subscribe and the five stars,
Speaker 1: and while you're at it, while we got your attention
Speaker 1: for this podcast. If you haven't already gone and done so,
Speaker 1: hit the five stars, hit the likes, the shares, the follow,
Speaker 1: the subscribes, all the things. Leave a comment, even if
Speaker 1: you've left a comment in the past, leave another one
Speaker 1: for the hell of it. Help us break through that
Speaker 1: algemithic algorithmic matrix that we have found ourselves in. Help
Speaker 1: us break through that glass ceiling. The more activity the
Speaker 1: algorithm sees, the more we get pumped out to more people.
Speaker 1: So let's go hit all the stars with the knife.
Speaker 3: Fans always.
Speaker 2: You cannot miss a Wait, that's not how I should
Speaker 2: say this sentence. You have to understand how important it
Speaker 2: is to have any level of engagement, likes, dislikes, comments, shares,
Speaker 2: all that stuff is so so if you love a show,
Speaker 2: that is like the best way to do it. Yes,
Speaker 2: I love that story, though, I will just say so.
Speaker 2: Synchronousies are the way like for sure your your life.
Speaker 2: If it's giving you synchronosies, you have to listen. And
Speaker 2: that's part of what when I say like I'm guided
Speaker 2: or my guides are interacting with me or whatever, that's
Speaker 2: definitely like part of the way they do it. There
Speaker 2: was there have been times in my life where the
Speaker 2: syncreticities were so thick and so frequent that I just
Speaker 2: had to stop and like float through and just accept
Speaker 2: it or else I would have gone insane. And it's
Speaker 2: the same sort of feeling when you have really extreme
Speaker 2: deja vus where you're like like the extreme deja vous
Speaker 2: where you're like someone's about to walk around that corner
Speaker 2: and they are going to be wearing a red dress,
Speaker 2: and then there they are in the red dress and
Speaker 2: then like a bird's gonna fly by, and there goes
Speaker 2: the bird and you just know everything that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: It's that same feeling, like like that reality isn't real.
Speaker 2: So one time I was listening it was actually to
Speaker 2: a Freeman Fly podcast by the way, stuff super awesome.
Speaker 2: So I was listening to her Free and five podcasts.
Speaker 2: I was on a walk and it started to be
Speaker 2: that every single like word or sentence or phrase in
Speaker 2: the podcast was being reflected in reality around me. And
Speaker 2: it lasted for like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Wow, whoa that would have fucked me up.
Speaker 2: Oh, it fucked me. I just sat on a bench
Speaker 2: eventually and just like was like don't move and just
Speaker 2: don't react and don't tense up and don't freak out.
Speaker 2: And it just kept going and going.
Speaker 1: This is a very crazy series of glitches and matrixes.
Speaker 1: This is not real life right now. I'm okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, maybe I'm having a really
Speaker 2: intense dream right now and I'm about to wake up.
Speaker 2: And so I just was like sitting and waiting and
Speaker 2: it would be to the point where like that person
Speaker 2: would be like yeah, and then like a bluebird and
Speaker 2: a bluebird would like fly by, and I'm just like, dude, No,
Speaker 2: kept going and going and going, and finally it just
Speaker 2: like started to ebb and like they were just every
Speaker 2: like two minutes instead and then there was every like
Speaker 2: ten minutes and then and then it stopped, you know,
Speaker 2: But I was like, what was that? Like was this
Speaker 2: like a portal point or like a timeline jump for like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think you witnessed the Mandela effect happening. We may
Speaker 1: not know what it was, but something's different now.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, those things have happened. I have some
Speaker 2: synchronous stories that would like blow everybody's mind, but I
Speaker 2: know we don't have time for that. Maybe on Meta
Speaker 2: Mysteries we can talk about the synchronis Meta mysteries.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what, speaking of Mandela effect, I gotta
Speaker 3: throw one out there. A cult member threw it out Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you and this is gonna fuck you up. Now,
Speaker 3: we've all heard of like, you know, the Monopoly guy
Speaker 3: not wearing the moncle and all that shit like and
Speaker 3: and that one still to this day fucks me up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: here's one that will definitely fuck you up. Did Richard
Speaker 3: Simmons ever wear a headband?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so glad you brought this up.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Did he You cannot find a
Speaker 3: single picture of him wearing a headband.
Speaker 1: There is one. I found one where there is one
Speaker 1: video from when Richard Simmons first star it out. He
Speaker 1: came out wearing a matching headband and wristband. Situation. That
Speaker 1: was one time, dude.
Speaker 3: But I never I remember watching the nutty Professor, right yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was like yeah, whatever, what was he saying, yes,
Speaker 3: I can, yes, right, and like he's watching the Richard simmonshit.
Speaker 4: I know for a fact he was wearing a headband
Speaker 4: in that.
Speaker 1: I went back, Nope, no, there's only one, and you've
Speaker 1: noticed it because I'll even throw something out bro in
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie, whenever Goofy like went to go like,
Speaker 1: uh do something with like something physical, he threw on
Speaker 1: an afro with a headband and there. It's been mentioned
Speaker 1: so many times. It is such an understood like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's almost like an owl with a graduation cap on.
Speaker 1: It's an understood thing in the cartoon world. It's an
Speaker 1: understood thing. In the icon world that when you have
Speaker 1: an afro like that and you're doing something physical, you
Speaker 1: throw on a matching sweat band wristband combo. Because of
Speaker 1: Richard Simmons. However, there's no video evidence this combination.
Speaker 3: That's the craziest thing, dude. And this is why I
Speaker 3: love these kinds of conversations because this is what stirs
Speaker 3: the mind. It makes you think that, like, it actually
Speaker 3: serves as a reminder that reality is nothing about what
Speaker 3: you think it is. Like it's literally like so far
Speaker 3: removed from whatever you envision it to be the illusion
Speaker 3: that you think that it is. It's so far removed.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I love talking about conspiracies or
Speaker 3: talking about anything health wise or spiritual wise, because it
Speaker 3: really helps shape a different perspective every conversation. And lindsay,
Speaker 3: I know you do a lot of that same stuff
Speaker 3: on Roagueways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to really free our minds. You know.
Speaker 2: The psychopaths who would like to be perceived as being
Speaker 2: in control, they are parasites and they control through this
Speaker 2: agreement basically of like this is reality, this is how
Speaker 2: it is. And so when we can start to free
Speaker 2: our mind, we start to free ourselves from every level
Speaker 2: of being, and so I I love those things for
Speaker 2: the same reason. That is what I talk about on
Speaker 2: Roagueways and Middle Path. I live stream every Monday through
Speaker 2: Thursday on rockfan dot com slash Roagueways at nine pm
Speaker 2: Eastern and also on Sundays at five pm Eastern. I
Speaker 2: do Day Zero with some guys that are really cool.
Speaker 2: That one's more like a news sort of commentary show,
Speaker 2: but we like to evis orate the psychopath class and
Speaker 2: those as well. Do a lot of spirituality stuff as well.
Speaker 2: That's just kind of my default now, that's just who
Speaker 2: I am, and so that's involved in all it. But
Speaker 2: Middle Path on Thursdays is for supporters only and it
Speaker 2: is purely spiritual. I do meditations and spiritual teaching also
Speaker 2: on Sundays, so if people want to join in a
Speaker 2: community that already exists and do some meditations, they're always
Speaker 2: healing because that same energy that I tap into and
Speaker 2: I do any of my healings is coming through and
Speaker 2: we're all, you know, sharing in that together in the
Speaker 2: safest place. Everything I do comes straight through the heart
Speaker 2: and of love and heavenly energy. So it's super beautiful
Speaker 2: and healing and I also do those one on one services.
Speaker 2: So if people want need, you know, a coaching a
Speaker 2: talk session for some of this physical stuff we're talking
Speaker 2: about parasites and that kind of thing, I do that.
Speaker 2: Or if you're looking for more like the tarot or
Speaker 2: the healing side of things, the shamanic side of things,
Speaker 2: I do one on one sessions with that as well.
Speaker 2: And I always want to invite everyone to my substack
Speaker 2: because roadways dot substack dot com. I have again all
Speaker 2: of those free health guides, so you don't even need
Speaker 2: a coaching and talk session. You can just go read
Speaker 2: through all that and just start applying it to your life.
Speaker 2: But I also do channels messages, and those are for
Speaker 2: supporters who want to subscribe on substack at the paid level,
Speaker 2: and I try to do those a couple times a
Speaker 2: week at least, or whatever is coming through basically a
Speaker 2: guides and allies are like, hey, start start thinking, start
Speaker 2: getting this download. You got it? Okay, Now I sit
Speaker 2: down and actually channel the message through. So I do
Speaker 2: it when I'm called to, but it ends up being
Speaker 2: usually a couple times a week or so, and so
Speaker 2: that's all available as well.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I love that you offer just so much,
Speaker 3: and like you're not just somebody out here just talking
Speaker 3: the talk, that you're actually walking the walk and you're
Speaker 3: helping other people kind of rediscover what it means.
Speaker 4: To be thyself.
Speaker 3: Indeed, and if you would actually after this conversation, text
Speaker 3: me all the links to everything, including you know, the
Speaker 3: links to that website where you can get the D
Speaker 3: Wormer and the D com parasite.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, everybody listening to this, links will be in
Speaker 1: these show notes, in the descriptions below.
Speaker 3: Yes, all of your links. I will happily put it
Speaker 3: in the show notes.
Speaker 1: As well as the links for our merch. I've had
Speaker 1: a couple of cult members hit me up like, hey,
Speaker 1: where's those merch links.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's the bottom link and all of our
Speaker 4: show notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, every time.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and there's never not been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But uh oh, you know what, I did want to
Speaker 3: say this one more thing before we wrap up, and
Speaker 3: and it's kind of taken away from how you run
Speaker 3: your podcast. You always start your podcast with pointless question
Speaker 3: of the day, and I love that. That's always like
Speaker 3: something I look forward to every time I hear it.
Speaker 3: So my pointless question of the day you're into Tarot
Speaker 3: just like I am. If you were going to get
Speaker 3: a Tarot tattoo, which card would it be?
Speaker 1: We going for a kill shot? Boy?
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, only because I've been thinking about it myself,
Speaker 3: of course you have.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of torn. So there's two that really
Speaker 2: call to me? So can I can I give two?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want to hear the pros and collins and
Speaker 1: the reasons of the whole top nine here, let's go.
Speaker 2: So I'll say the first one that would be the
Speaker 2: most surprising I think to people would be the Tower.
Speaker 2: And the Tower is if people don't know, it represents
Speaker 2: a time in your life where everything is going to
Speaker 2: get shaken up. The idea of the Tower is that
Speaker 2: your life is like on a foundation, and you've built
Speaker 2: on that foundation and you've gotten to this point in
Speaker 2: your life and now something major is going to happen
Speaker 2: and it's going to test your tower. It's going to
Speaker 2: test your foundation. It's going to test the walls, and
Speaker 2: it's going to test and see like, how how stable
Speaker 2: are you really? What have you? Have? You built it
Speaker 2: on the rock like we've been in to do and
Speaker 2: buy the Bible and Jesus or have you built on
Speaker 2: like silt injection, and everything's going to come tumbling down.
Speaker 2: And people look at the tower and they're always like,
Speaker 2: oh God, the Tower's coming, like oh am I going
Speaker 2: to pass the test or not? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: bring the test, like I'm ready for it, right. But
Speaker 2: also I can't wait for some of the walls to
Speaker 2: tumble because anything that tumbles that shit wasn't built, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want it anymore. I want to rebuild it
Speaker 2: better than ever before. So like I love tower moments.
Speaker 2: I thrive in the tower energy, and I can't wait
Speaker 2: to get rid of whatever isn't working for me and
Speaker 2: rebuild something new. So I love the tower. The tower
Speaker 2: in my deck just so happens to have the Sagittarius
Speaker 2: sign on it as like part of its corresponding energy.
Speaker 2: And I'm a Sagittarius, so it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2: We're like prey it, We're like running into the storm, right,
Speaker 2: So that makes sense to me. But the other one
Speaker 2: that is also obvious, I think it's more obvious, would
Speaker 2: be in my deck it's called the universe, and a
Speaker 2: lot of decks it's called the world. Same thing. They
Speaker 2: actually mean the same thing. Linguistically, but in my deck,
Speaker 2: it's the universe, and it's a giant dragon flying through
Speaker 2: like space, like the universe, and it's breathing this fire
Speaker 2: and it's actually so big that it wraps around like
Speaker 2: the sun. It's bigger than the sun. And ideas that
Speaker 2: you've gotten to a point in your life where you
Speaker 2: are so at one with everything that exists that there
Speaker 2: is nothing good, bad, neutral, whatever that you would even judge,
Speaker 2: because all of it just gets used for your propulsion
Speaker 2: through the universe, your own evolution. And where I think
Speaker 2: we touched on this earlier, right like even the hard
Speaker 2: times or even like the negative things we experience, like
Speaker 2: they get transformed into your ultimate good. And that's what
Speaker 2: the actual truth is. Like you are the universe, and
Speaker 2: everything here, even if it seems scary and bad, is
Speaker 2: actually propelling you into the new Earth or the next
Speaker 2: level of yourself or heavenly energy or alignment with the
Speaker 2: crystic energy or whatever it might be. And that's actually
Speaker 2: who all of us are.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: We are the ocean and a drop and a drop
Speaker 3: in the ocean. I was thinking of maybe I'd get
Speaker 3: the magician. I always thought that that was a really
Speaker 3: cool one.
Speaker 1: The Dark Magician like the yu gi Oh chord.
Speaker 3: No, it's just a magician, I mean a good magician.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean sure.
Speaker 1: I mean Yukioh thought the Dark Magician was a good guy.
Speaker 1: He used it.
Speaker 3: Well, sure, I don't know, but I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I really know anime shit that y'all like, I got
Speaker 1: into that for about three episodes. Home me, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. People thought that it was gonna be the
Speaker 1: next Pokemon, which was my shit. I know. That's all
Speaker 1: for another day anyway, Thank.
Speaker 4: You so much for coming on the show, Lindsay.
Speaker 3: This was so much fun and very informative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me back. I'm glad to share
Speaker 2: more of this information with your audience because I know
Speaker 2: they like god little taste And then people were like,
Speaker 2: well wait what So I love it, and I just
Speaker 2: want all of us to heal more and more on
Speaker 2: every level because that is how we would build the
Speaker 2: new world.
Speaker 4: That's right, that is correct.
Speaker 3: Well, this was another awesome episode of the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 3: In my name's Jonathan dreg And there's one very important,
Speaker 3: extremely vital piece of information we need you to learn
Speaker 3: just as soon as humanly possible open up that third.
Speaker 1: Legit, let's go.
Speaker 4: That was so much fun.
Speaker 2: That awesome.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Oh no problem. I'm sorry we kept you
Speaker 3: so late. I know you got the Grandma.
Speaker 2: Past my bedtime.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I think that conversation was worth it.
Speaker 2: Though it was, it was very awesome. Yeah, it floads perfectly.
Speaker 3: We gotta do it again, but I seriously, I do
Speaker 3: want to get you on meta mysteries that here soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it for sure.
Speaker 4: That's so awesome.
Speaker 2: That's my real like I said, that's my bread and
Speaker 2: butter shame.
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like, yeah that that show completes me.
Speaker 3: It completes me. But uh, all right, Linda, Well we'll
Speaker 3: let you get out of here. We don't want to
Speaker 3: keep you too long. But yeah, it was it was
Speaker 3: great talking with you, and I can't wait to do
Speaker 3: it again.
Speaker 2: I will text you all that supper, I'll email let
Speaker 2: you is that okay? Sure, okay, I'll do that instead.
Speaker 3: It's faster, alright, we'll see all well, all right, you
Speaker 3: can keep the show going.
Speaker 4: Daddy gotta go take a week.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I could just be talking to myself
Speaker 1: over here. I mean, well, I'm talking to the cult members.
Speaker 1: I mean, but there's no response. You know me, I
Speaker 1: don't do well with monologues. Daddy, got a piss this,
Speaker 1: You're the fucking divine feminine all of a sudden, your daddy,
Speaker 1: my ass, dude.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: But to everybody who's still listening, all of our Patreon
Speaker 1: and rock fan members, yeah, y'all know, Lindsay has been
Speaker 1: a return cult member for a very long time. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I think she predates me as
Speaker 1: far as this show is concerned. I think that was
Speaker 1: one of Jonathan's, if not his first guest. It was
Speaker 1: like within the first five guests that he had. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we absolutely adore her, Lindsay, her show Rogue Wades. If
Speaker 1: you haven't gone and check that out, please do so.
Speaker 1: It is definitely more of the woo woo side of things,
Speaker 1: but I have a sneaking suspicion that most of our
Speaker 1: cult members are at least a little bit inclined to
Speaker 1: that side of things as well. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the good things and all of the good stuff, happy, happy,
Speaker 1: joy joy. But yeah, oh and a little behind the
Speaker 1: scenes cut caveat if you will. I think I have
Speaker 1: decided on the premise for the show for me and
Speaker 1: my brother. I don't know about a name yet. I
Speaker 1: don't know about the design art. I haven't thought about
Speaker 1: that because that's, you know, for show, the actual essence
Speaker 1: of it. I think I I've figured it out. I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna do it's it'll be about an hour, okay,
Speaker 1: give or take. And I think what I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: is half of the show we will do like a
Speaker 1: rapid fire basically react style to the most ridiculous off
Speaker 1: the wall news that I could find. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean like China is a rearing up to Taiwan, Like no,
Speaker 1: I mean the fucking Florida man slash Polish man slash
Speaker 1: the wild shit. Yeah, And I think I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: half of the episode that and I think the other
Speaker 1: half we might talk conspiracies, but more of the uh.
Speaker 3: Open ended, open ended conversation is what you're saying. No,
Speaker 3: are you gonna be like hammering on a specific topic
Speaker 3: the all time, or we'll like it'll be a you'll
Speaker 3: have segments where you're shit talking the news and you're
Speaker 3: talking about conspiracy, but then there's this which is the
Speaker 3: actual topic of the conversation.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, like we're gonna do like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have half of the time block section off where it's
Speaker 1: just talking about the current events, the modern news, the
Speaker 1: what the fuck ever we just I define in the
Speaker 1: news that day, and then the other half I think
Speaker 1: we'll move off into a conspiracy that is completely true, confirmed,
Speaker 1: and all parties have admitted to their faults, right the
Speaker 1: document or like the CIA Iceberg shit, the ones that
Speaker 1: the CI have definitely come forward and said, yes, we
Speaker 1: did that. Or to the towns and we're I was
Speaker 1: saying about the cities that are flooded to black towns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do a whole episode about that type of shit.
Speaker 1: And this is all confirmed. This isn't like if you
Speaker 1: believe it, No, no, no, this is they acknowledged. They
Speaker 1: ain't none to believe anymore. It's more or less just
Speaker 1: talking about things that a lot of people I feel like,
Speaker 1: don't know. And I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: that want to open up their third eye, I don't
Speaker 1: think they are able to because they're more or less
Speaker 1: scared of the unknown. Right, they can't talk about the
Speaker 1: crazy woo woo. If they can't even acknowledge that the
Speaker 1: CIA have done half the shit that they're accused of.
Speaker 4: Oh, you gotta crawl before you can walk, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I think that on the conspiracy side of things,
Speaker 1: it should be more or maybe I should turn this
Speaker 1: more from a comedic, all of this to be taken
Speaker 1: with all of the humor, all of the laughter. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be me and my brother and whoever the fuck
Speaker 1: he decides to bring in that day. We may have
Speaker 1: a third, we may just be he and I. We'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes me. I have guess from time
Speaker 1: to time. We'll figure it out. But I think that
Speaker 1: might be a way I want to take this.
Speaker 4: Have you decided on a name yet?
Speaker 1: No, that's all I was just telling them. I said,
Speaker 1: I haven't figured out a name, I haven't figured out
Speaker 1: art which me and you need to discuss this.
Speaker 4: What's all that?
Speaker 1: Because you're way better at creating creative creativity than I am.
Speaker 1: You really are, thank you. No, we both have our strengths. Man,
Speaker 1: creativity is you're.
Speaker 3: My divine feminine nature. As Christy might.
Speaker 4: Say, sure, oh, but I have a surprise.
Speaker 3: Oh so that surprise is going to be coming this
Speaker 3: week and only the Cult members who are here for
Speaker 3: Patreon and Rockfin for the after show. Are gonna know
Speaker 3: this and that's going to be a show that we
Speaker 3: are going to release this week probably. I was just
Speaker 3: thinking probably Thursday.
Speaker 1: Do I know about this yet? Or am I hearing
Speaker 1: this for the first time?
Speaker 3: Hearing it for the first.
Speaker 4: You're hearing the idea for the first time.
Speaker 3: But we've uh, we've already done a show on it,
Speaker 3: only to the patron and.
Speaker 4: Rock Fin members.
Speaker 1: Which thing my story.
Speaker 4: The story podcast version.
Speaker 1: Oh is it time?
Speaker 3: It's it's been fucking what four months? We didn't We
Speaker 3: didn't even say it was gonna last it was gonna
Speaker 3: be that long. But I don't have that recording anymore,
Speaker 3: so we would just have to do it over again,
Speaker 3: which is fun.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it's time.
Speaker 1: It might be time. It might be time to just
Speaker 1: let that all hang out and and let the chips
Speaker 1: fall where they may, as it were.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I say that's the show we do right
Speaker 3: after this right now? Yeah? Oh yeah, let's get fucking weird.
Speaker 3: You weren't see you didn't have to study for this one, right, Like,
Speaker 3: there's nothing to research for this. I mean, it's all
Speaker 3: on memory.
Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't have a reason to
Speaker 1: say no. Let's oh, dude, I guess that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Full send, full fucking send boys all right and girls
Speaker 1: all right? Well, cult members, that's what we're about to
Speaker 1: get ready to do. Although I do feel bad for
Speaker 1: the cult members and rock fan members or excuse me,
Speaker 1: Patreon and rock fan members, the cult members who have paid,
Speaker 1: who have have have heard the story, and y'all went
Speaker 1: that extra mile to support us in order to hear
Speaker 1: the story. I hope y'all don't feel like y'all.
Speaker 3: Know we've said it at that time that we would
Speaker 3: eventually release it on podcasts, and honestly, like we said
Speaker 3: that it was only going to be like a month
Speaker 3: or two.
Speaker 1: I think I was hoping for six. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's been a little while. The schedules have gotten crazy, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have gotten crazy. But I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, with as many shows of as we've been
Speaker 3: doing lately, yeah, all the before shows, all the after shows,
Speaker 3: plus you know, for for those who are with the
Speaker 3: the Third Eye all the way opened tier, which you know,
Speaker 3: I actually thought about it. We're still going to post
Speaker 3: the actual, the actual live for Rock fin and Patreon,
Speaker 3: like for those who missed it or or whatever that
Speaker 3: want to see it, you know, a couple of days
Speaker 3: after the fact, we'll probably just like post.
Speaker 4: It on a Saturday or something like that.
Speaker 3: Actually, we may post it that Sunday night right after
Speaker 3: as soon as we're done.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. Or maybe the follow up
Speaker 3: week story is a tonight thing, sir?
Speaker 2: Are you.
Speaker 4: There's no reason not to?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. It's not like I'm being hesitant towards
Speaker 1: that one. But that's something that we could also do anytime.
Speaker 3: Including right now. Yeah, you know what I mean, no
Speaker 3: time like the present. Baby.
Speaker 1: Again, that procrastination will get you, will.
Speaker 3: It will just like those fucking parasites, bro, And we're
Speaker 3: gonna get parasitic with this conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not, let's go there.
Speaker 3: Let's get fucking weird anyway, all right.
Speaker 1: We got a wrap so I can at least piss
Speaker 1: and get myself mentally prepared for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, all right, see y'll later.