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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it. Okay, Damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence and they would dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here looking him new the window now and
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside
Speaker 2: this point. You're right, Sarah here, hello, hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2: What quent on out there? It's thought of a bit
Speaker 2: just about sixty ft nine. I don't know easy, I'm
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, I'm walking right, Ahady, Oh.
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for joining me. Is Fred and Alaska. What
Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you today comes from Brad.
Speaker 3: Brad is his real first name, Brad and his eight
Speaker 3: year old son at the time. This was back in
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, so this was twenty years ago
Speaker 3: now his son was finally old enough to start getting
Speaker 3: out in the wilds with him. At the time, Brad
Speaker 3: had an amphibious a stall I believe it was one
Speaker 3: eighty five. Amphibious means it has floats and wheels, so
Speaker 3: he could take off from a runway and land in
Speaker 3: the lake. Just for those who don't know, Brad had
Speaker 3: been up the Salta River a few times on a
Speaker 3: buddy's airboat. There's a whole lot of traffic of airboats
Speaker 3: up there nowadays, where it's just hillacious man. So he
Speaker 3: started looking at maps and stuff, and he decides he's
Speaker 3: going to go up past the splits on the Salta
Speaker 3: and go to the beginnings of the north fork of
Speaker 3: the Salta River. There's a cabin there. He researched it.
Speaker 3: He flies out there alone one time, checks it out,
Speaker 3: make sure it's accommodating enough for him to get in
Speaker 3: and out in the plane or whatever. He decides, okay,
Speaker 3: this is a spot. So he goes does this thing,
Speaker 3: and he waits till after the hunting season to make
Speaker 3: the trip happen. He wanted to go sooner when his
Speaker 3: son was not in school, but it couldn't work out
Speaker 3: that way, so he said, screw it, I'll take him
Speaker 3: out of school for a week and he's going to
Speaker 3: go a dad. He gets everything planned out. He's over
Speaker 3: visiting with his uncle. Brad has an Alaska, Nada background
Speaker 3: at the basket and he had happened to be talking
Speaker 3: to his uncle about a week before his trip. He
Speaker 3: remembers his uncle telling him to beware of the harry man,
Speaker 3: and he thought his uncle was just giving him shit.
Speaker 3: He had heard of the hairy man. He knows the
Speaker 3: oral tradition. He wasn't naive to it. He just never
Speaker 3: experienced outside of his uncle. Hadn't known anyone in his
Speaker 3: family who had, so he was just like, all right, uncle,
Speaker 3: I'll keep that in mind. His uncle warned him, if
Speaker 3: you hear his screams and stuff, be aware, keep your
Speaker 3: boy clothes, don't play yourself cheap. You want to be aware. Honestly,
Speaker 3: at the time, Brad said he was more concerned about
Speaker 3: bears versus some hairyman, some story. He believed his uncle,
Speaker 3: but he had never seen it, so it wasn't a
Speaker 3: reality to him. He had planned on being there for
Speaker 3: a total of approximately five days. He went through the
Speaker 3: proper channels for all the reserving and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, because a lot of times you got to
Speaker 3: reserve one of these steak cabins just in case someone
Speaker 3: had already reserved it or what have you. So it
Speaker 3: was free and clear of whatever. His plan was to
Speaker 3: be there four days, five nights, a day of flying in,
Speaker 3: day of flying out, because he was trying to give
Speaker 3: his son the whole picture, not just oh fly in,
Speaker 3: boom boom, you're just right here. He flew around showing
Speaker 3: his son the sights and all that stuff, which was
Speaker 3: great for his son. Now this experience I'm going to
Speaker 3: be sharing from his point of view, and some of
Speaker 3: it from an eight year old's point of view that
Speaker 3: he remembers. Something to keep in mind. This is remote Alaska.
Speaker 3: Anywhere you go remote Alaska, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: You got the whole gambit of grizzly bears, moose. There's
Speaker 3: serious predators out there. So he gets in there. He
Speaker 3: said the first night beautiful, that he could see clouds coming.
Speaker 3: He had a satellite phone that was outside of getting
Speaker 3: in his plane and firing up his radio, gaining altitude
Speaker 3: to reach somebody. Those were his forms of communication. He
Speaker 3: said that when they got there, he had pulled the
Speaker 3: plane into a little bit of an eddy spot to
Speaker 3: where he could tie it off and it not be
Speaker 3: pulled too hard by the current break a tree or
Speaker 3: a branch that is tied off to and float away
Speaker 3: while he's sleeping. Fair enough, the last thing you want
Speaker 3: is your expensive airplane floating away. He gets everything done,
Speaker 3: and he keeps his son right by him, and we'll
Speaker 3: just call him his son. We won't even give him
Speaker 3: a fake name. So him and his son they do
Speaker 3: their thing. He's teaching him how to tie knots and
Speaker 3: just a total learning experience for his boy. Now they
Speaker 3: get up to the cabin and he said, there's approximately
Speaker 3: three steps you go in. There's a standard waft right
Speaker 3: in front of you. There's a wood stove off to
Speaker 3: the left, next to a window. Off to the right,
Speaker 3: it was another window, and then you got two bunks
Speaker 3: in the back below the loft with the little table
Speaker 3: in between and a small window right there above it.
Speaker 3: So he came prepared. He brought a little Dwalt drill
Speaker 3: thing with the screws so he could hang up temporary
Speaker 3: curtains and whatnot. Just because he just didn't like the
Speaker 3: idea of open windows, which, hey, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: I don't need to have something staring at him, he said.
Speaker 3: The first night was great. When they got up the
Speaker 3: following morning, while he was making breakfast, it started raining
Speaker 3: like real hard. His crap. He wanted to get his
Speaker 3: boy out and fish, and he goes, okay, we brought
Speaker 3: rain gear, so I'm gonna ring gear him up. We're
Speaker 3: gonna take this little trail that goes just up a
Speaker 3: little ways to the river's edge near where the plane
Speaker 3: was follow the game show a little further, there's a
Speaker 3: nice deeper depression in the river where there's potentially some
Speaker 3: nice trout laying in there. So it's raining there may
Speaker 3: probably be more active. So he all right, cool, I
Speaker 3: got a game plan for me and the boy. Now,
Speaker 3: as he's cooking this breakfast, it's twilight in the morning.
Speaker 3: His son is a sleep up in the lock, just
Speaker 3: crashed out from all the excitement and traveling fresh air.
Speaker 3: So as he's cooking, he hears this clink dingdingk was
Speaker 3: what the hell is that? He was like, something must
Speaker 3: have fell off a branch off a tree, or something
Speaker 3: fell onto the metal roof and rolled off. Okay, no problem.
Speaker 3: Continues doing what he's doing and making up some bacon
Speaker 3: and eggs and stuff and some bright potatoes. He's using
Speaker 3: one of those little twin burner Coleman stove, so he's
Speaker 3: doing his thing on that. He just focused on cooking,
Speaker 3: and again he hears clank, dank, clink. Taxs, what the
Speaker 3: hell is that? And it's still fairly it's twilight on
Speaker 3: the horizon, still dark in the brush, and so he is,
Speaker 3: what the hell. He had the stove set up on
Speaker 3: one of the bunks if you're facing inside the door.
Speaker 3: He said, it was over on the left hand bunk,
Speaker 3: which is right near the wood stove and the window.
Speaker 3: The reason he didn't have it set right on top
Speaker 3: of the wood stove, it was it got a little
Speaker 3: chilly before bedtime and he lit a fire in there
Speaker 3: overnight and it was still a little warm, and he
Speaker 3: didn't want propane, and he was just avoiding excess heat
Speaker 3: and potentially a bad situation. So he said, he went
Speaker 3: around this little wood stove and looked out the window,
Speaker 3: and all he saw was darkness in the trees, light
Speaker 3: on the horizon, the mountain off to his left, and
Speaker 3: it was trees off to the right and stuff, and
Speaker 3: so he was like, man, that's weird. Maybe the wind's
Speaker 3: blown higher because of the rain and it's knocking pine cones.
Speaker 3: It must be pine cones, right, So he decides it's
Speaker 3: pine cones. A little while later, clankd ink, and he's man,
Speaker 3: that sounds like a rock, not a pine cone. So
Speaker 3: now his curiosity's really peaked because this is three in
Speaker 3: a row. There's not really any wind. There's more of
Speaker 3: a drizzly rain. It's not like a storm going on.
Speaker 3: So he's like, all right, grabs his gun. He had
Speaker 3: a forty five seventy. He had a four to fifty
Speaker 3: four casule chess holster. He wasn't playing any games. He
Speaker 3: had dealt with bears in the past, had some bad experiences,
Speaker 3: and he said he would never be caught off guard
Speaker 3: with the bear again. Forty five seventy and a four
Speaker 3: to fifty four, you're doing all right, especially when it
Speaker 3: comes to bears. So he goes out. He has a flashlight,
Speaker 3: a real nice one. From what he said, it was
Speaker 3: a surefire or weapon light. Right when they were coming out,
Speaker 3: they had some good ones, even though the batteries didn't
Speaker 3: last long. They had some really good lumens Candela power.
Speaker 3: He goes out, He goes to the side to where
Speaker 3: the rocks were hitting, which would if your face in
Speaker 3: the cabin, it would be the left side which he
Speaker 3: was on cooking and stuff where the stove was. He said,
Speaker 3: when he got outside and went around, he was just
Speaker 3: using a flashlight padded around. He had the four to
Speaker 3: fifty four and he said when he hit the tree line,
Speaker 3: it was about twenty five yards away. He thought he
Speaker 3: saw dark movement. He wasn't sure. It could have been
Speaker 3: a shadow from a tree with the light and stuff
Speaker 3: moving as he moved. So he was like, a you're
Speaker 3: spooking yourself. But as he's outside, clank, ting ting ting ting, tink,
Speaker 3: comes another rock and he turned when he heard the
Speaker 3: river rock plunk fall off the roof. Right, So now
Speaker 3: he's okay, something is throwing rock. So he calls out,
Speaker 3: keep in mind his son's inside sleeping. He yells out, hey,
Speaker 3: who's out there? Who's out there? Nothing dead? Quiet? He
Speaker 3: can hear just the drizzle falling on the leaves and stuff.
Speaker 3: So he gets this real weird I'm being watched feeling.
Speaker 3: As he's going back to the door, he hears this
Speaker 3: weird grunt, turns around. He's looking all around, ready to
Speaker 3: get down the business, and he sees nothing. It's limited distance.
Speaker 3: He's got maybe twenty five yards open visibility at most,
Speaker 3: not counting the little trail down to the river, and
Speaker 3: then there's a trail that hooks up going northbound to
Speaker 3: where he's tied off this plane. Now he's really spooked.
Speaker 3: He goes back inside, calms down, shuts the door. One
Speaker 3: of the tots he had brought with he just slides
Speaker 3: it in front of the door. He said the door
Speaker 3: the latch was wonky, and just to make sure he
Speaker 3: doesn't pop open or whatever. So he goes back tending
Speaker 3: to his food. He was burning a little bit smoking
Speaker 3: up the place, so he was like, crap, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to open this door. And it's getting lighter, so
Speaker 3: he feels a little better about opening the door, so
Speaker 3: he opens the door. He's tending to his food and
Speaker 3: stuff so it doesn't get too scorched, and he's salvaging
Speaker 3: what he can. Because he was outside for a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes, he wasn't paying attention to his food, and
Speaker 3: he's kicking himself at that moment, Brad said his son
Speaker 3: had woke up and came down the stairs. So he
Speaker 3: was sitting over on the bunk across from him, where
Speaker 3: he had the little stove set up and stuff, and
Speaker 3: the other stove was cooled off enough. The wood stove
Speaker 3: was cooled off enough to where he felt comfortable moving
Speaker 3: the Coleman stove over on top of it. A small
Speaker 3: window in the back. He did not put a curtain
Speaker 3: over because they were sleeping up in the loft. He
Speaker 3: just wanted the bigger windows cover. So as they're sitting
Speaker 3: there talking, he's talking to his son about yeah, it's
Speaker 3: burned a little bit, bud, but it'll be all right.
Speaker 3: And he's nowhere, he's dad. So as he's talking to
Speaker 3: his son, goes, who's that? And he looks at the
Speaker 3: door right immediately, what do you mean who's that? Because
Speaker 3: he already had on his chest holster he had the
Speaker 3: four fifty four right there, and he looks towards the
Speaker 3: door and he's there's no one out there, son, And
Speaker 3: he goes, no in the window, and he turns and
Speaker 3: as he turns to look in that little window again,
Speaker 3: it's much lighter out now. He sees darkness move out
Speaker 3: of the way of that window. Immediately, all alarms are
Speaker 3: going off. He rushes over, slams the door shut, slides
Speaker 3: a toe over. He's looking around. He takes some of
Speaker 3: the firewood pieces and makes a makeshift board across the
Speaker 3: door lock on the inside. Hey, good mcguy ring me personally,
Speaker 3: it probably would have took me about twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: minutes before I started looking to do that, but he
Speaker 3: said he felt like he needed to reinforce that door.
Speaker 3: He did not go outside to look. He fixes the door,
Speaker 3: which takes time. He tells his son, just tell me
Speaker 3: if you see anything else. He waited until he had
Speaker 3: secured the door. His initial tries weren't working, and he
Speaker 3: knew he had stuff he could work with in the plane.
Speaker 3: So what he ended up doing is he got it
Speaker 3: started and everything, and then he used three inch screws
Speaker 3: to screw through the door into the frame to reinforce it.
Speaker 3: So he put, like he said, five or six That
Speaker 3: was how he secured the door initially.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So, as this is going on, he said he was
Speaker 3: having friendly conversation with his son, not talking about the
Speaker 3: topic of what was in the window, even though he
Speaker 3: was dying to ask him. So he gets done doing
Speaker 3: all that and then turns around and says, come over here, son,
Speaker 3: because he had him at the edge of the bunk
Speaker 3: and there's this little it was built into the wall
Speaker 3: kind of thing. It was like a small little table
Speaker 3: underneath that window to the right, and not very big.
Speaker 3: It's smaller than half the size of a card table.
Speaker 3: So he has his son over there and he's so,
Speaker 3: what was it you saw? And he goes, you didn't
Speaker 3: see it, Dad, And he was like, no, son, I
Speaker 3: didn't see it. I saw something move, but I didn't
Speaker 3: see it. He goes someone with the fur hood on
Speaker 3: and he goes a fur hood and he goes yeah.
Speaker 3: He goes did you see his face? And he goes, no,
Speaker 3: all I saw was the fur hood. He says, okay, son,
Speaker 3: someone's obviously playing a prank on us. He goes, I'm scared.
Speaker 3: You're locking the door. You're putting screws through. You don't
Speaker 3: do that at home. The kids being curious, why are
Speaker 3: you doing this. Brad was like, we're in a strange place.
Speaker 3: There's this stranger outside. I don't know what they want.
Speaker 3: His son understood no from his son's point of view,
Speaker 3: he was sitting there. This is his rough memory because
Speaker 3: he was eight at the time. It's twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: he said. As he was watching his dad cook and
Speaker 3: his dad explaining, hey, I burnt some of this stuff
Speaker 3: or whatever his dad was carrying on about it. At
Speaker 3: the moment, something caught his attention at the window and
Speaker 3: he turns and looks and just sees this silhouette of
Speaker 3: what he referred to as a fur hood. It looked
Speaker 3: like a fur lined hood on someone's head, and he
Speaker 3: couldn't see the face.
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Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Now. His son said that when that was going on,
Speaker 3: he had the urge to want to initially go outside
Speaker 3: and play, but once his dad noticed and stuff, he said,
Speaker 3: the mood changed for him. He felt scared inside. He said.
Speaker 3: It was real weird. He remembers vividly as a kid,
Speaker 3: feeling like, oh, it's playtime, to all of a sudden dread.
Speaker 3: He never felt that before. It was real, real, hard
Speaker 3: for him to understand as an eight year old. As
Speaker 3: it got much much lighter, Brad removed the screws from
Speaker 3: the door had looked out the one that was nothing
Speaker 3: going on. He had his son stay inside while he
Speaker 3: did a little circle around the cabin. Saw nothing, look
Speaker 3: for any kind of sign of anything. Saw nothing. It
Speaker 3: was like, all right, they chill out and tell about
Speaker 3: He said about tell about ten am in the morning.
Speaker 3: And then he said, all right, you know what, I'm armed.
Speaker 3: I'll keep my son close. We're going to go fish. Still,
Speaker 3: there was a portion of him that didn't believe his
Speaker 3: own eyes. With the dark movement. He thought maybe the
Speaker 3: high tension and the rocks and stuff was just like
Speaker 3: messing with them. He was looking for easy explanations to
Speaker 3: what was going on around him. He was just grasping
Speaker 3: at straws. At that point, he was feeling like his
Speaker 3: well planned trip with the sun was getting messed with. Right,
Speaker 3: we totally understandable. You can't account for that shit. So anyway,
Speaker 3: so he gets his sun day, it's drizzly, you know,
Speaker 3: he's takes him up, just passed the plane up along.
Speaker 3: It wasn't quite a quarter mile from the cabin. There
Speaker 3: was just enough riverbank that had brushed behind him that
Speaker 3: was real thick. He didn't care for that too much.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of willows and stuff and poplars. He
Speaker 3: didn't care for that much at all, but still he
Speaker 3: let his son fish while he constantly kept watching. They
Speaker 3: started noticing fish in the river moving up because the
Speaker 3: drizzle had stopped. It was just the river water moving,
Speaker 3: but wearing his polarized glasses, he was seeing fish moving
Speaker 3: up to a hole just a little further up. So
Speaker 3: he say, hey, son, let's move up a little waste.
Speaker 3: We'll get ahead of these fish moving upstream and then
Speaker 3: cast down to them and maybe catch something. His boy
Speaker 3: was there for adventure, so they walked a little ways further.
Speaker 3: Just before this bend in that river, there's a little
Speaker 3: bit of an overwashed spot. So the side of the
Speaker 3: river the cabin's on, there's a bunch of overwashes from
Speaker 3: river ice that's getting basically a blockage from when it
Speaker 3: goes out. It's an ice dam, so the water will
Speaker 3: find another way, and so that's why you see these
Speaker 3: teardrop shapes, some bigger than others, and that's just from
Speaker 3: overflow from the ice when it's retreating out in the spring.
Speaker 3: So there was a smaller one, and there was brush
Speaker 3: and then a little bit of an old channel and
Speaker 3: then more brush, so they had a straight line of
Speaker 3: sight with brush here, line of sight in the thicker
Speaker 3: brush here. Brad was standing with the line of sight
Speaker 3: down that overwashed spot. His son was just right in
Speaker 3: front of him, ten feet away, casting out trying to
Speaker 3: catch fish. Well, as he's standing there, something catches his
Speaker 3: eye way off in the line of sight down this
Speaker 3: little overwashed spot, to the opposite side of the river bank,
Speaker 3: just slightly around the corner. He turns and looks, and
Speaker 3: he sees this black thing and he's looking and something's off.
Speaker 3: Immediately he stops and he's really focusing on it, and
Speaker 3: he notices it just still is still, and he's like
Speaker 3: awkwardly cocking his head, like what am I seeing? Because
Speaker 3: it was like the silhouette of a man, but much
Speaker 3: bigger in the context of what he was looking at,
Speaker 3: just brush all around and everything. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: there's this pitch black silhouette of a person right down
Speaker 3: over there about he said, it was about one hundred
Speaker 3: yards from his position where he was at to across
Speaker 3: the river and to where it was, and immediate he's
Speaker 3: what the hell is that? And at first he thought
Speaker 3: maybe it's an old sign or so. It was this
Speaker 3: pitch black and there he was trying to explain it
Speaker 3: away in his own mind of what it could be,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, this thing bit down a
Speaker 3: little bit, stood back up, and then bolted out of you.
Speaker 3: To his right. He was like, what the hell because
Speaker 3: it moved and it was big and it just boom,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, was just animated. It went from
Speaker 3: static to animated like that. He was shocked, but he
Speaker 3: didn't feel scared until he heard splashing in the water
Speaker 3: out of view around that bend. He just snatched his
Speaker 3: son up and retreated back to the cabin. He said.
Speaker 3: As he was going along, he left the fishing gear
Speaker 3: and stuff there. He had his forty five seventies sung
Speaker 3: over his shoulder. But when he snatched his son, his
Speaker 3: son dropped the fishing poles. Scared the shit out of
Speaker 3: the boy. He retreats right on back to the cabin,
Speaker 3: he said. As he was going back to the cabin,
Speaker 3: he could hear this thing moving back behind him off
Speaker 3: to his left. He said, it was maybe fifty sixty yards,
Speaker 3: but it stayed paced with them, but just back. So
Speaker 3: he's hearing this brush moving. You got to remember, there's
Speaker 3: thick brush on that side. On his left hand side,
Speaker 3: it's just a wall of willows and stuff. So he
Speaker 3: can't visually see this, but he could hear all the
Speaker 3: movement and the brush rustling and stuff because the drizzling
Speaker 3: had stopped and it was just quiet, so it was
Speaker 3: real easy to hear all that noise. He said, it
Speaker 3: sounded like a freight train coming through there, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't passing him or catching up to him. It stayed
Speaker 3: at the same pace he was. He said. It freaked
Speaker 3: him out. He said. Once they got past the plane
Speaker 3: and was back up to the little trail that goes
Speaker 3: up to the cabin, he set his son down, had
Speaker 3: his son stop and sit down on the ground for
Speaker 3: a second because where he was there was an opening
Speaker 3: from one of those washouts from the river right there,
Speaker 3: right near where he had the plane parked, and he
Speaker 3: was waiting for this thing to show itself come into
Speaker 3: the clearing so he could see it because he had
Speaker 3: a line of sight where he was perceiving this thing
Speaker 3: was going to come out of the brush. He was
Speaker 3: standing there with his forty five seventy his son's on
Speaker 3: the ground crying now as he's standing there, his heart's racing.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what's going to happen. Only knows is
Speaker 3: he's going to protect the sun regardless. He's aim in
Speaker 3: his forty five seventy towards the direction of the brush.
Speaker 3: As he's standing there, he's not seeing anything. He hears
Speaker 3: the movement coming, but it hasn't broken through the brush yet,
Speaker 3: and there's not a whole lot of leaves left on
Speaker 3: the trees. This is after hunting season. This is further
Speaker 3: up north. You got to understand in Alaska, come September first,
Speaker 3: in some places, things go from green and ninety the
Speaker 3: week before by ruby and stuff, to literally the next
Speaker 3: day bitter cold, frozen poddles, and everything's yellow and orange.
Speaker 3: It's literally that quick. He's dealing with not a whole
Speaker 3: lot of leaves on the brush, but it's so thick
Speaker 3: and dense he can't see through it. So as he's
Speaker 3: standing there, he's looking around all directions on the constant.
Speaker 3: He's on the verge of losing his shit. And I
Speaker 3: could totally understand because he said in that moment he
Speaker 3: was less worried about himself and worried about something getting
Speaker 3: to his son and so as he's standing there, he
Speaker 3: hears it coming up to the edge of the brush
Speaker 3: and he knows it's back in there. He can hear
Speaker 3: it moving. He just doesn't have a line of sight
Speaker 3: on it with the gun. There's so much brush he
Speaker 3: didn't want to waste any AMMO. So he stands there
Speaker 3: a few moments and nothing happens. He goes dead quiet.
Speaker 3: He said that he got so quiet. He is telling
Speaker 3: his son, calm down. His son's being quiet, sobbing, telling
Speaker 3: him I'm scared, whispering him scared. And he goes, I know, son,
Speaker 3: I know we'll get out of here. And so what
Speaker 3: he does is he has his son stand up, He
Speaker 3: squats down, has his son jump on his back to
Speaker 3: piggyback him right. He's holding the rifle. He's watching their
Speaker 3: back trail, and he turns around and he's going through
Speaker 3: the trail as fast as he can. He cuts through,
Speaker 3: gets up to the cabin, and when he gets to
Speaker 3: the cabin door in view of the front of the cabin,
Speaker 3: he notices sleeping bags. Some of the tots had been
Speaker 3: drug outside of the cabin and stuff was scattered about.
Speaker 3: The cook stove was upside down. It had been mashed
Speaker 3: and twisted. The sleeping bags were basically laid out how
Speaker 3: they were up in that little loft, just laid out,
Speaker 3: opened up a little bit, and just laid the way
Speaker 3: they would have been up in the loft. Real real
Speaker 3: strange stuff. So he's what the hell he's looking a room,
Speaker 3: and again he was thinking important stuff, but with his
Speaker 3: shoulder hole stars his chest holster. He had important paperwork
Speaker 3: and all his other stuff in that holster. So he
Speaker 3: had all his stuff. So when he gets up there,
Speaker 3: he goes inside and looks real quick, there's bunky smelling there.
Speaker 3: He said. The little ladder that went up to the
Speaker 3: loft was broken off a little bit and looked like
Speaker 3: something obviously very heavy was messing with it or bumped
Speaker 3: into or something. He said. That woodstove that was in
Speaker 3: there had been basically twisted sideways and pushed up against
Speaker 3: the wall. These little woods stoves that they're small, but
Speaker 3: there's still a few hundred pounds, so it's just not
Speaker 3: like you can just shove it out of the way
Speaker 3: kind of deal. He's freaking out. It's damn near pandemonium
Speaker 3: because now his son is picking up on his vibe
Speaker 3: of just freaked out. He had a small bag with
Speaker 3: extra animal and some other stuff, and he found that
Speaker 3: he got the extra ammo. He's got that little bag.
Speaker 3: He has his son wear this little miniature Duffel bag
Speaker 3: like a backpack on his back. He's helped dad now
Speaker 3: from his son's perspective, he said that one of the
Speaker 3: things he remembered so clearly was the smell. He said
Speaker 3: it was like a mix of rotten eggs and like
Speaker 3: rotten meat. Real bad pee older. That's what he remembers
Speaker 3: very vividly. He said. The rest is murky because there
Speaker 3: was so much stuff scattered round. As a child, he
Speaker 3: couldn't really make it out. But as they're standing there
Speaker 3: and his dad's doing what he's doing, and he's got
Speaker 3: this little Duffel bag on, they hear this shrieked scream
Speaker 3: coming from outside. But it's not from the direction of
Speaker 3: the plane. It's off to their left. If you're facing
Speaker 3: out the door, a beat off to your left, like
Speaker 3: down river waste. It was so loud, he said, the
Speaker 3: whole place was just damn, you're shaken from this scream.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It was real high pitch shriek, but there was this
Speaker 3: low tone that was real, barely audible. It was all bad.
Speaker 3: It was all bad because now he's feeling surrounded. At last,
Speaker 3: he knew this thing was over near where the plane is,
Speaker 3: and now there's noise coming off to his left right.
Speaker 3: So he tells his son, Okay, here's what we're going
Speaker 3: to do. You got to keep your eyes out looking
Speaker 3: around behind us, but hold on tight. We're going to
Speaker 3: go to the plane. You keep an eye out. Just
Speaker 3: let me know if you see anything and what have you,
Speaker 3: and Dad'll take care of it. Brad felt bad because
Speaker 3: he's putting his son in a position that he's really
Speaker 3: not in a position to be in. He's young, he's
Speaker 3: just a little boy. He's eight years old, and now
Speaker 3: he has to be the lookout. He has to use
Speaker 3: critical thinking and all these things to help keep them
Speaker 3: both safe. And he put that weight on his son's shoulders.
Speaker 3: It really hurt us feelings that he was in that
Speaker 3: position and now his son has to carry that burden
Speaker 3: of looking out behind them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And as a dad, I get it, especially with any
Speaker 3: young child just in general. So he said, when they
Speaker 3: went out the door and they got to the bottom
Speaker 3: of the steps, his son says, ow, and he turned around.
Speaker 3: He's looking all around. He's like what. He goes, something
Speaker 3: hit me, and so he's looking around, he goes, what
Speaker 3: hits you? And he's I don't know. It bounced off
Speaker 3: my head, right, and so immediately he's okay, something s
Speaker 3: throwing stuff at my son. We gotta go. He starts booking,
Speaker 3: not full on running, but moving as fast as he can,
Speaker 3: telling his son, keep a lookout, keep a lookout. So
Speaker 3: you're doing great, just reassuring him the whole way, right,
Speaker 3: because they got three hundred feet one hundred yards at
Speaker 3: least to get to the plane. So he said, just
Speaker 3: as they were coming up to where the little trail
Speaker 3: cut off to the right that leads over to the plane,
Speaker 3: he noticed something fly by him and it bounced on
Speaker 3: the ground and then he looked it was a pine cone.
Speaker 3: He goes, in that moment, he was like, okay, he
Speaker 3: was hit with a pine cone. And because that's what
Speaker 3: he is putting together. So they continue on down the tree.
Speaker 3: When they get to the bank where he had just
Speaker 3: been standing a little bit before, holding a bead on
Speaker 3: the brush, he let his son down off his back
Speaker 3: because it's a drop bank, right, there, he has to
Speaker 3: lower his son down. He lowers his boy down and
Speaker 3: hands him the rifle to hold and tells him back away,
Speaker 3: and he jumps down real quick, grabs a rifle from
Speaker 3: his son, has his son get back on his back.
Speaker 3: He's facing back towards the cabin at this point because
Speaker 3: where he just looked, it's open. He sees the plane
Speaker 3: over there. There's no brush obscuring his view, so he
Speaker 3: noticed there was nothing there, So immediately his focus is
Speaker 3: on their back trail where those pinecones are being thrown.
Speaker 3: He said, what he saw once his son jumped back
Speaker 3: on his back, looking back up that trail where two
Speaker 3: of these things just barely in view. They were about,
Speaker 3: he said, about maybe sixty feet away tops, but they
Speaker 3: were on either side of that little trail. They had
Speaker 3: just came down, and they were both doing this number
Speaker 3: just just kind of looking. He said, in that moment,
Speaker 3: it looked more like a curious thing, because obviously they
Speaker 3: had him dead to rights. They could have easily snatched
Speaker 3: him up, and his son for whatever reason, they were
Speaker 3: standing there doing this, and they were almost synchronized with
Speaker 3: their swaying back and forth. So now he's got another conundrum.
Speaker 3: He's got to get his son in the plane. He's
Speaker 3: got to warm it up, but there's no reverse in
Speaker 3: the plane. He's got to push it off. He's got
Speaker 3: to untie it and push it off from the bank.
Speaker 3: He's mentally mapping out, how am I going to do that?
Speaker 3: He goes, what I'm going to do is, I'll leave
Speaker 3: the pontoon lines tied off. I will cut the rope
Speaker 3: on the lines that go from the wings down, I'll
Speaker 3: cut those ropes. I'll leave the pontoons tied off until
Speaker 3: the engine warms up. Then I'll step out of the door,
Speaker 3: cut those off, push off. He didn't give a shit
Speaker 3: if he got wet pushing the plane backwards. He didn't
Speaker 3: have that kind of time. He didn't have that kind
Speaker 3: of environment that gave him that luxury. So what he
Speaker 3: does is he fires up the plane. The son's in
Speaker 3: the back laying down low. He told his son keep low.
Speaker 3: Had his son put on the muffs and with the
Speaker 3: little mouthpiece of the colms. He had the colms on
Speaker 3: and he has this It's basically like an old phone cord.
Speaker 3: Let's got the it's all coiled up for stretching and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So he has it on as he cut the lines,
Speaker 3: t reassuring his son because the prop is going, it's
Speaker 3: pretty damn loud, you know what I mean. So he's
Speaker 3: talking into the mike's sun everything's okay, just stay low,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. As he's doing that, he hears this
Speaker 3: clink clink, clink clink, which it had to have been
Speaker 3: big enough to make enough noise to get his attention.
Speaker 3: With the prop going, you got to understand this, his
Speaker 3: immediate fear was rocks and thin a little um skin
Speaker 3: on his plane. So he gets back inside the plane
Speaker 3: and he's looking at the other door is still open.
Speaker 3: He's looking out, and he knows he has to shut
Speaker 3: that door. There's things to do still, but he's looking
Speaker 3: to see what the hell. He notices where they jumped
Speaker 3: down from the bank, there was one of these things
Speaker 3: squatted down doing this number with his hands like a
Speaker 3: juggling motion. But it was squatted down him just above
Speaker 3: the ground, spread out pretty wide and doing this number
Speaker 3: like it was juggling something that wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea, we'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He said that was the damnedest thing he ever seen.
Speaker 3: He was focused on what it was doing versus trying
Speaker 3: to concentrate on what it looked like. He said, it
Speaker 3: looked like tan leather. That's what he remembers most, because
Speaker 3: he was watching its body movements and looking for the
Speaker 3: other one at the same time. Freaked out. The plane
Speaker 3: is warming up. He knows he's still got a moments
Speaker 3: before it is ready. So what he does is he
Speaker 3: grabs a rifle. He gets down into the water and
Speaker 3: has a rifle on the pontoon. He's looking under the
Speaker 3: plane back at this thing still not moving, squatted down
Speaker 3: doing this juggling motion, which is the damned to sing.
Speaker 3: So he cuts the pontoon lines, which wasn't an easy task.
Speaker 3: He crawled over the one, cut from underneath the plane,
Speaker 3: cut the one called back up, and over cut the
Speaker 3: other one and pulls the plane. And what he does
Speaker 3: is he gets to the inside of the pontoon and
Speaker 3: he walks the plane out, turns it around and pushes
Speaker 3: back up against shore. Now, these pontoons, you gotta understand,
Speaker 3: they have these little guides in the back for turning
Speaker 3: when you're in the water, right, They're just little rudders.
Speaker 3: There's a lever that lifts them up and lowers them
Speaker 3: down inside the plane, it drops them and picks them
Speaker 3: up right. So what he does is, just before he
Speaker 3: turns the thing around, he jumped back up in there,
Speaker 3: hold that lever up to where those little guides kick up,
Speaker 3: those little rudders kick up. He gets back down, crawls
Speaker 3: underneath again so he's protected on both sides by the pontoon.
Speaker 3: He had to take his head set off to make
Speaker 3: this happen. He pushes out, turns the plane around, and
Speaker 3: backs it to where it's not catching the current too
Speaker 3: hard because he still has a little bit of time
Speaker 3: for it to warm up. Now he feels a lot
Speaker 3: better about the situation because they're facing the right direction
Speaker 3: to taxi away, you know what I mean. Again, there's
Speaker 3: no reverse on these old planes. So he climbs back
Speaker 3: up and he's looking this thing is still sixty five
Speaker 3: seventy feet at the most away doing this number, and
Speaker 3: he says, now it's off to his left hand side.
Speaker 3: Because he's back in the plane at this point, the
Speaker 3: current isn't really affecting him where he's sitting. His motions
Speaker 3: in the water are making more of an effect than
Speaker 3: the current. Where he was, the deeper channel was across
Speaker 3: the way, so he was relatively in a safe place
Speaker 3: as far as the water current goes. Now, he said,
Speaker 3: as he was sitting there, he's looking off at this thing.
Speaker 3: He's got his door wide open, and he's got his
Speaker 3: rifle down. He's not pointing it directly at it, because
Speaker 3: this thing is really it's not doing anything other than
Speaker 3: this weird motion. He's continually looking all around, made sure
Speaker 3: the other door was shut. He's got his colms on,
Speaker 3: and he's talking to his son's son, just stay low.
Speaker 3: We're good, Dad, got it turned around, you. God of
Speaker 3: reassuring him, right, because his son's still crying. Now. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden he hears an impact pay and he
Speaker 3: looks and the little window right behind him, which is
Speaker 3: basically a shaped kind of window, one of the smaller ones.
Speaker 3: It was fractured right, and it was obvious something impacted it.
Speaker 3: So he's, oh, hell no. He's right about ready to
Speaker 3: get moving in this plane, and now they're chucking rocks
Speaker 3: and it broke his window. So immediately he lifts up
Speaker 3: the gun and pops around at this thing. He said
Speaker 3: he'd shot from the hip, just raised up and boom
Speaker 3: fired a shot, levered in another room, and this thing
Speaker 3: took off out of you up that dry wash out
Speaker 3: spot breaks out that direction off to the back behind
Speaker 3: him going around. He was like, screw this, it's almost
Speaker 3: warm enough. Get the show on the road. Basically, so
Speaker 3: he powers up and he pulls away from shore. He
Speaker 3: dropped in the rudders and he was doing his thing.
Speaker 3: He checks he down river at this time again overcast,
Speaker 3: low ceiling. He was very unsure exactly distance before he
Speaker 3: banks to the left and so on, and he's hoping
Speaker 3: that in his mind's I I'll clear this mountain here
Speaker 3: off to my left when I take off. Because he
Speaker 3: had to go down river, taxi turn around and come
Speaker 3: back upriver to take off. So he does that. He
Speaker 3: taxis down and at this point he tells his son,
Speaker 3: it's okay, keep an eye out. Tell daddy if you
Speaker 3: see them. His son what he'd done is where he
Speaker 3: was laying down, he climbed up and over and then
Speaker 3: ended up plopping right next to his dad. Bair enough.
Speaker 3: Brad said not to him, sit strap in whatever, and
Speaker 3: his son's looking out the window. Now this is from
Speaker 3: his son's perspective when they were taxing downriver and he
Speaker 3: had just jumped over or whatever, and his dad got
Speaker 3: enough distance to turn around start powering up to come
Speaker 3: upriver to take off, right, he said. As he turned around,
Speaker 3: he noticed one off to his right. It was coming
Speaker 3: out into the water a little ways and it was
Speaker 3: squatting down. From what his son said, this thing was
Speaker 3: doing this weird juggling things with his hands, and this
Speaker 3: is the first I've ever heard of that. And what
Speaker 3: do he do with that? God only knows what it
Speaker 3: was doing. So he's watching it. He points it out
Speaker 3: to his dad and his desk. I see it, son,
Speaker 3: I see it, And he's powering up right. He's got
Speaker 3: his flaps ready to go, Brad said, as soon as
Speaker 3: he was getting to the point, and he lifted off
Speaker 3: because most experienced pilots they'll lift one pontoon up then
Speaker 3: pull the other one out just to break water tension.
Speaker 3: So as he does that and he's gaining altitude, he
Speaker 3: looks off to his right past his son, and that
Speaker 3: same one that he assumes he had popped a shot
Speaker 3: at was squatted down. So there was one squatted further
Speaker 3: down below the cabin on the river doing this weird
Speaker 3: juggling motion with his hands, and this other one that
Speaker 3: he popped a shot at that was originally doing that
Speaker 3: was doing the same thing, squatted down right near where
Speaker 3: the plane was originally. He said. He gaining up altitude.
Speaker 3: He was real nervous getting into the clouds, not sure,
Speaker 3: so he's counting to himself and then starts gaining more
Speaker 3: altitude and banks off to the left, praying at that
Speaker 3: point that he didn't just him and his son to death.
Speaker 3: And after a minute or two, he obviously cleared the
Speaker 3: mountain because he's still alive in gaining altitude and he
Speaker 3: knows he's above any mountains at this point, and then
Speaker 3: they break through the clouds, their sunlight, everything. It was
Speaker 3: like being reborn. He said. He felt a huge sense
Speaker 3: of relief. So he gets back, He gets son to mom,
Speaker 3: explains everything. He goes to his uncle. He's got stuff
Speaker 3: to retrieve. He had stuff that he felt he needed
Speaker 3: to go back for, but he wasn't taking his son.
Speaker 3: He gets his uncle and his uncle's good friend. So
Speaker 3: he gets back. Son goes with his mom and they're
Speaker 3: dealing with the aftermath of this. He needed to go
Speaker 3: get his stuff in the interim getting connected with his
Speaker 3: uncle and making the arrangements, because this is all he's
Speaker 3: trying to make it happen right away before everything freezes
Speaker 3: up and all that kind of stuff. He wants to
Speaker 3: go and get his stuff. When you have certain things
Speaker 3: that you inherited and that you make use of over
Speaker 3: the generations, you have an obligation to keep those things
Speaker 3: for your heritage and that type of thing. Anyway, so
Speaker 3: he had some stuff that he definitely wanted to retrieve
Speaker 3: if it was still retrievable. So his uncle brings his
Speaker 3: friend now. He said when they flew back up, they
Speaker 3: basically flew to the richardson to the Salta and then
Speaker 3: followed the Salta back up to the north Fork there
Speaker 3: past the splits, and he said he saw a bunch
Speaker 3: of people in boats and canoes on the lower portion,
Speaker 3: and then once they got to a certain point it
Speaker 3: was really no activity. He said. They went through the
Speaker 3: little valley where the cabin was, tried a spot from
Speaker 3: the air anything going on before they landed, came back
Speaker 3: a room, came in landed parked basically where he did before. However,
Speaker 3: this time plane was facing out and it was already
Speaker 3: warmed up. They had only planned on being there as
Speaker 3: long as it took. To gather stuff up. He had
Speaker 3: his uncle to keep guard, and his uncle's buddy. Both
Speaker 3: these two gentlemen, basking natives. They were not playing games.
Speaker 3: They were well thetude. They dealt with things similar before,
Speaker 3: so they're on point. A good portion of his stuff
Speaker 3: was gone. He didn't know if these things took it,
Speaker 3: or if someone came along and was like Geez, who
Speaker 3: left his cabin a mess, that kind of thing. Thankfully,
Speaker 3: there was one smaller tote that he was concerned about,
Speaker 3: with some family heirlooms in it, and stuff like an
Speaker 3: old compass and some other stuff that really meant a
Speaker 3: lot to him, some honest keepsakes. Luckily that was there untouched.
Speaker 3: He retrieved that, grabbed the other miscellaneous stuff that was
Speaker 3: still around, and they went back to the plane. Now
Speaker 3: at the plane, because everything was calm, there was songbirds
Speaker 3: of stuff. The tone, the mood was totally different. It
Speaker 3: wasn't as ominous. Right, He's sitting there walking his uncle
Speaker 3: and his friend through. Hey, we were just down over
Speaker 3: here when I saw it bolt and all this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. His uncle's listening, but the whole time his
Speaker 3: uncle's listening, he's looking around, and same with his friend.
Speaker 3: They walked back to where the trail was and they
Speaker 3: were looking for sign of tracks, and there are a
Speaker 3: couple you could see you'd see tracks in there, and
Speaker 3: they were like stepped on each each other and that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But they were a good seventeen inches
Speaker 3: eighteen inches long. One of them was about seven inches
Speaker 3: wide at the heel. They were just discussing it. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: all eyes are looking around. His uncle says, ah, we
Speaker 3: should probably get going, and everyone agrees, Yeah, let's get
Speaker 3: out of here. We got what we came for. He said.
Speaker 3: When they were getting back into the plane, up behind
Speaker 3: the cabin, which he didn't know for sure how far away,
Speaker 3: but behind the cabin the very exact same high pitched
Speaker 3: squeal scream they heard inside the cabin as they were
Speaker 3: retreating to the plane, him and his son, he said,
Speaker 3: it was the same pitch. There was a lowness to
Speaker 3: it that you couldn't hear, but it was there, almost
Speaker 3: feeling it. This shriek just gave them chills to their bones.
Speaker 3: So that was all the motivation they needed. They all
Speaker 3: hopped in squared things away, fired up, and flew out
Speaker 3: of there. Another portion from his son's perspective is that
Speaker 3: when he was sitting there in aw the man in
Speaker 3: the hood, the fur hood out the window. It was
Speaker 3: something that he never fully expressed. But remember I mentioned
Speaker 3: he had the feeling like he wanted to go out
Speaker 3: and play, and then it was immediately changed to fear.
Speaker 3: What caused that, he said, is this thing was in
Speaker 3: essence mind speaking to him, come outside, come outside and play.
Speaker 3: He never fully verbalized that to his dad. He didn't
Speaker 3: know how to because he felt so weird about it.
Speaker 3: In the mind of an eight year old, what do
Speaker 3: you do with that? Someone's talking to me in my head?
Speaker 3: Even adults they could say, mind speak all they want,
Speaker 3: but in the moment of that, what the hell you know?
Speaker 3: And as an adult it's real hard to even speak about,
Speaker 3: let alone when context of being a little eight year
Speaker 3: old boy not knowing what the hell is going on.
Speaker 3: I want to thank Brad for sharing that. Thank you all,
Speaker 3: and we'll catch you on the next one. They say,
Speaker 3: you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
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