WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:42.399 Will you wait, Miss. 2 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:49.359 School. 3 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.040 Welcome back Midnight viewers to part two of our Look 4 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.480 at the Late Great. 5 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:28.000 Jenno'swark, in a twelve dollars and fifty cent pine box, 6 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:32.519 reposes the body of a frontier of Frankie, armed but disarmy, 7 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.840 a victim of an old West philosophy that any man 8 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.439 with a good eye, a limber finger, and a well 9 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:43.439 known trigger skirts the pastures of immortality. But this chap 10 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.719 found out the hard way that immortality is a wish, 11 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.400 a word, but infrequently your reality. 12 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.519 You wait your pleasure in a painting we call the 13 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:54.239 Waiting Room. 14 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.439 The Waiting Room was written by Rod Serling, directed by Jeno'swark, 15 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:03.680 and stars Thieve Forrest, Albert Salmi, Jim Davis, Buddy Ebsen, 16 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.760 and Gilbert Rowland. They're throwing out some blank as blank 17 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.840 credits all of a sudden in the opening credits, which 18 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.439 I don't understand. This is the story of a gunslinger 19 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.400 named Dictor who stops into a saloon and encounters a 20 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.000 literal murderer's row of fellow outlaws. The problem is they're 21 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:24.479 all dead. They are not Dictor. Oh no, anyone but Dictor. 22 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.240 It would be hard to figure that thing out, wouldn't it. 23 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.879 What do you think of this one, Chris? You take 24 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.439 us back to that wholy original episode of Tales from 25 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:34.840 the Crypt. 26 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.840 So what was funny is Season four, episode eight of 27 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.599 Tales from the Crypt Showdown aired in nineteen ninety two. 28 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.439 That was not even an episode of Tales from the Crypt. 29 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.319 Father Malone, correct me if I'm wrong, but that was 30 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.319 actually a two fisted Tales segment that had been repurposed 31 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:52.280 into a Tales from the Crypt episode, which would explain 32 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:56.039 why the theme almost doesn't match that show and almost 33 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.759 more matches this show, and as much as this show's 34 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.560 theme is whatever the hell it wants to be. Yeah, 35 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:05.280 that segment is about a gunslinger who wanders into a 36 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.400 town where he's wait, I remember you. You were Dusty Bill, 37 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.080 you were dead on the I saw you get gunned down, 38 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.439 and I swear to god, Buddy Edson's doing the exact same. 39 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.520 This whole thing is just that just ah, oh, I 40 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.000 remember where am I in Hell? Yes? You are in hell? 41 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.199 And so am I for having to watch this segment 42 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.520 because it was just it was like I was having 43 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.199 a flashback to like nom where I was like, oh, 44 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.199 I've seen this before, and it was just as bad 45 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:32.840 last time. 46 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.039 Wow, Tales from the Crypt is the equivalent of the 47 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:40.719 Southeastern Asian Conflict of the late nineteen sixties. Okay, Mike, 48 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:41.759 what do you think of this one? 49 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:43.919 I don't know if it's a badest nom, but it 50 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.879 definitely felt like it went on as long as the 51 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.759 Korean War did. In mash it was a very long 52 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.520 long segment. I literally I looked down at one point, 53 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.800 I looked back up and I said, this is still 54 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:57.479 going on? What's going on? 55 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:57.800 What? 56 00:03:58.120 --> 00:03:59.199 How can this be happening? 57 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.080 You were dictor all of a sudden, Yes. 58 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:07.120 Twenty eight minutes, twenty eight breaking minutes, and you feel 59 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:08.400 every single one of them. 60 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.360 But you know what, Rob no longer had control at 61 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.639 this point, and they were doctoring his scripts when he 62 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:14.280 wasn't looking. 63 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.240 Oh right, sure, it's too bad that they took step 64 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.240 in additional minutes of them reminiscing out because boy, I 65 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.519 really miss that, Oh boy, good lord. It's just it's 66 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:29.680 you know what it is. It's almost a blackout sketch again. 67 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.000 And even the Tales from the Crypt episode is the 68 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.360 same way. If an old Western guy wanders into town 69 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.759 and the town looks deserted and there's a bunch of 70 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.600 guys around the table. I think everybody in their mother 71 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.360 who has at least a inkling of an idea of 72 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.240 the tropes here would understand what's going on here. 73 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.800 Yeah, like most of Serling's loop episodes, which we've gotten 74 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.160 quite a we've got a lot back in the Twilight Zone, 75 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.519 but we certainly have had some here as well, just recently. 76 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.839 What is that clacking sound in the heavens? To be 77 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:59.759 honest with you, the first twenty minutes or so of this, 78 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:04.680 not twenty, but like ten, I was actually totally intrigued. 79 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.040 I'm a sucker for the supernatural. I'm a sucker for 80 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:10.000 the Old West. Put them together. I'm on board. And 81 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:12.920 the performances are solid uniformly. 82 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.759 Yeah, Buddy Epsen's fucking great. He's awesome. He's so good 83 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.399 he can't even salvage how bad this segment is. 84 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.000 And it's shot beautifully. The problem is, as soon as 85 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.160 the first gunfighter steps outside, all lingering out of what's 86 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:31.120 going on here dissipates. And that's within seven or so 87 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.800 minutes of the episode beginning, and now we've got twenty 88 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.199 one to go. It should have remained as oblique as possible, 89 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:40.639 because when it was oblique, when it was unclear what 90 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.680 was happening, I was really into it. I was intrigued. 91 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.240 I want it to be I wanted it to be 92 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.839 really mysterious and not, oh my god, they're not just 93 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.680 going to go to the most obvious place possible. At 94 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.319 the same time, if I had the unfortunate luck of 95 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.879 living in pioneer times in the Old West, I hope 96 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.439 that I would at least have Steve Forres's sense of style. 97 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:05.160 That fucking stripes suit and that really tasteful kerchief just 98 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.399 read just around the throat in a wide brim chapeau, 99 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:12.879 but not too overstated. I liked it. There is a 100 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.040 recent movie, The Coen Brothers Ballad of Buster Scruggs. They 101 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.600 have the final segment in that it called the Mortal Remains. 102 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:25.319 Oh yes, first time, Yeah, that exactly that. That's what 103 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.160 this should have been and could have been. Unfortunately, all 104 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.000 we're saddled with is a moron of the lead character 105 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.639 who everyone keeps telling him their story. 106 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:36.879 This is how I die. 107 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.920 He already knows. He mentions it himself like, oh, I 108 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:41.480 heard you got gunned down by so and so and 109 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.720 such and such, Yes, that did happen. I'm that guy. 110 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.800 And here you don't understand though, how did it happen? 111 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.720 I don't get it. How are you here now? It's like, dude, 112 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.480 put one, one and two or next to each other. 113 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.439 There is nothing else in between it. It's you're dead. 114 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.680 You're dead, you're dead. 115 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.560 Tell me what has happened? 116 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:05.680 And I love that. It even does the thing where 117 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.120 it's like, well, do you remember how you got here? 118 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.000 I don't even remember how it got here. Did we 119 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.959 never leave? We never left, We're still there. It's like that, 120 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.399 it's so again, this is seventy two, so we're not 121 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.480 It's still It was used then, but it's overused now. 122 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:26.560 Maybe it's our twenty twenty three sensibilities peeking through. But 123 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.600 it doesn't even feel. It feels so rote it The 124 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.399 rotness of it gets in the way of it even 125 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:35.319 attempting to be entertaining. And then you saddle that with 126 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.720 it being four times as long as it needs. 127 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.720 To be, just that they kept doing it over And 128 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.319 I love a good groundhog Day type story. A time 129 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:48.639 loop story is great, but not this way, not that 130 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.879 we get to hear every single person every time, just 131 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.639 over and I'm like, please just figure it out. 132 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.319 Other thing I liked quite a bit it was the 133 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.600 second gunfighter, the gun the gunfighter who's sitting closest to 134 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.959 Buddy Ebson. He's the second one to get up and go. 135 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.160 That guy's performance was fantastic. That's Albert Selmi. I knew 136 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:12.319 I knew him from somewhere. He's Noonan's dad in Caddy Shack. 137 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:13.639 Whose child is this? 138 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:14.680 What? 139 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.120 How many Kochs did you have? That guy was that 140 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.079 fucking fantastic Western character here in the winter. 141 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.279 He really sticks it to Steve Forest too. He's like, 142 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.279 I don't want to be your brother, and I would 143 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.120 never be related to some vulture like you. It's like 144 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:34.840 geez Christ, Him and Buddy Ebsen are turning in real, 145 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:38.679 like blistering performances in this. I appreciate that they showed 146 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.360 up and they were like, we know what you're asking 147 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:43.639 us to do. Lean into this really hard and they do. 148 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:47.320 Like I appreciate the commitment to what they're needed. It's 149 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.000 just like, you don't need it this much. 150 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:52.360 Yeah, because the tone demands the performances those guys are 151 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:55.200 giving that first opening sequence when we're unsure as to 152 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:59.879 what's happening here. It's it needs a level of seriousness 153 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.600 bolster everything else. And that's what's good about the episode. 154 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.200 That can I just ask you, guys, because I was 155 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.720 unclear on this the opening and closing shot of him 156 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.240 riding up to the hanged man which turns out to 157 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.519 be him, was that day for night or was that night? 158 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.679 And they just had a really hard light on the 159 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.360 hanging man and Steve forrest or his stunt up. 160 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.039 It looked like a hard light to me anyway. 161 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.960 Yeah, in the opening the first time I said, I went, 162 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:28.639 that's gotta be day for night, and then at the 163 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.879 end I was like, no, it really looks like a light. 164 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.919 So I'm with you. 165 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.360 By the way, when it comes to horror mixed with Westerns, 166 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:40.600 I'm a sucker from Brett Hart. And yeah, this had 167 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:43.799 so much promise of oh cool, an Old West segment. 168 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.919 We haven't had one of those before. Even what was 169 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.559 it what was the Star Trek episode like Day of 170 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.159 the Gun or whatever that was shot? So yeah, just 171 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:56.159 the amazing like big red backgrounds and just that kind 172 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.960 of like symbolism rather than sets type of. 173 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:03.639 Thing set fronts obviouslyzy saddle set fronts right. 174 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.919 Yeah, obviously they didn't have that much money or anything, 175 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.200 but it worked out really well. So and this one, 176 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:10.919 like you guys said, shot very well, looks really good. 177 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.159 But just the storytelling. 178 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.919 Yeah, and I've said this before, like the hamdbone purple 179 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:20.399 prose that I usually accuse Sirling of, if you put 180 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.759 it into a period piece that it alleviates a whole lot. 181 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:27.840 Suddenly it sounds like sparkling dialogue. And I have very 182 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:31.080 little to complain about. The problem is it just never ends, 183 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.759 and it goes nowhere, and we're all in on it, 184 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.440 like the guys who were sitting in the fucking saloon 185 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:39.320 from the scene one, and we're just waiting for the 186 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.320 dummy to wake up. And I work twenty eight minutes 187 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:42.559 for that. 188 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.360 But I guess the other thing that I wonder is, 189 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.320 obviously you have the story of a guy who's died, 190 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.679 and then is this the first time he's gone through this? 191 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.799 Are they like at the point, Like the way that 192 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.120 they're acting, it's like this motherfucker is not remembering time 193 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.559 to time. So is this like ten loops into this? 194 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.720 Which is that would have been a more interesting conversation 195 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.960 to go towards as what does it mean to be here? 196 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.120 Is there any way to leave? Or are we doomed 197 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.600 forever by our bad choices? No, it's instead it's this 198 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.639 guy's dumb and doesn't know that he's dead, buh like. 199 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.519 But the audience picked up on it immediately. I don't 200 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.600 see any way you as an audience member couldn't pick 201 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:22.759 up on it in this episode. The show has done 202 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.720 good twists in the past. I'm sure it will do 203 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.360 good twists in the future that are not telegraphed, but 204 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.759 this is telegraphed from shot one. We can't be smarter 205 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:32.519 than the character on screen because then we're just like, 206 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:33.519 this guy's just an idiot. 207 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.919 I do think that this is this character's first time 208 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.440 because he rides up and he looks at the hanged 209 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.639 man and doesn't bother to figure out who he is, 210 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.200 and then the next time he comes he changes that. 211 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.840 So I think this was his first time at the 212 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:48.919 After Life rodeo. 213 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:51.919 Maybe, but Steve for seems pretty dumb. 214 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.039 Yeah, I would think at least the Buddy Ebsent character 215 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.200 would be like this guy again. 216 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.080 Yeah, I'm saying that's why they're so frustrated with him. 217 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.240 It's like this guy just keeps coming back asking the 218 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.120 same stupid goddamn questions, and we keep telling him the 219 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.519 same shit over and over again, and he's just not listening. 220 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:10.360 Fuck this guy. 221 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.360 The Albert Salmi character would have said, how many times 222 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.000 do we have to tell you this? You idiot? 223 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:18.759 That would have been what I would have written, because 224 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:21.519 it would have been more interesting as opposed to just okay, 225 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:23.840 like he's here for the first time, but he doesn't 226 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.480 realize it. Maybe it's okay, maybe I understand why you 227 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:27.159 don't realize it. 228 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.279 Then no, but and it would let the character off 229 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.559 the hook, maybe like we know he's an idiot from 230 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:38.080 the opening. We would then view this scenario through the 231 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:41.519 ghosts who are already participating his eyes, and it's kind 232 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.759 of a tragedy could have that could have worked. 233 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.000 They're much more interesting to those amongst you with a 234 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:51.919 predilection toward antique collection or the occasional bargain hunting that 235 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.519 takes place in out of the way nooks and stalls. 236 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.240 This painting suggests a certain required wariness when it comes 237 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:02.279 to your shopping. There are moments when behind some dusty 238 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.480 book or in a cobwebbed corner of an ancient vestibule, 239 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.000 you'll uncover a little object duart which can horrify the 240 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:12.200 heck out of you, such being the case in this painting, 241 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.039 when a lady goes junking about and uncovers a mythological 242 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.039 statue that has lived past its time and intrudes on hers. 243 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.279 We call the painting the Last Rights for a Dead Druid? 244 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.799 All right, Last Rites of a Dead Druid? Written by 245 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.039 Alvin T. Sappinsley, directed by Jenno Zwark or should I 246 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.840 say Jeno Zoom. The segment is a zoom fest. More 247 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:39.120 on that in a minute. And also you didn't see 248 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.720 it at home, but Ron's introduction was very atmospheric. There's 249 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.480 a lot of camera moves this episode. There's a lot 250 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.200 of zooming in and out for bumpers. I dig where 251 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:51.919 it's going anyway. Druid stars Bill Bixby first. This is 252 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.279 his first of two appearances on Night Gallery. Carol Linley 253 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.720 the Knightstalker's own and man, she's adorable? 254 00:13:59.120 --> 00:13:59.840 Is that reactive? 255 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:05.679 I don't care? And Donna Douglas as Mildrick as Mildred mcvain. 256 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.799 She gets the and as credit that that trend has 257 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.639 continued into the next segment. It also starts ned Glass. 258 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.600 He's in two Cold Check episodes Spanish Moss Murders and 259 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.519 Horror in the Heights, which I did with you guys 260 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:19.559 on the On the Kill Jack daves. 261 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:23.080 Over There almost a decade to go down the first. 262 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.320 Time I met you, mister Michael. But the unseen performer 263 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.399 in this segment is Gerald Penny, Gerald Perry Finnerman. He 264 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.919 was the cinematographer. I mentioned the zooms and the focus pulling. 265 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:38.000 Here he's doing muscular work and it's delicate and elegant. 266 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.360 The focus pulling, like I said, is out of hand. 267 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.679 He was a lifelong TV camera guy with occasional for 268 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.840 rays into features. But there were some interesting TV shows 269 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:52.320 he worked on, like Cork the Richard Benjamin Sifo written 270 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.080 Button by Buck Henry. He did that entire series. He 271 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.279 did The Planet of the Apes entire TV series. He 272 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:00.919 did one of my favorite TV movies, Devil Dog, Hound 273 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.399 of Hell and oh yeah, sixty episodes of Star Trek. 274 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.679 Speaking of Star Trek, but anyway, hey guys, do you 275 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.080 remember when Steven Moffatt created the weeping angels on Doctor 276 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.879 who Ah? Thank you? Those statues that move when you're 277 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:21.679 not looking. Yeah, terrifying and holy original creation. Anyway, this 278 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:25.440 is the story. It all looked like Bill Bixby, a 279 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.120 young lawyer whose wife gives him an ancient statue that 280 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.879 may not have started out as stone. Chris, what'd you 281 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:31.480 think of this one? 282 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.200 Similarly to the last segment, it was a tadlong, but 283 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:38.759 it was goofy if that was what they were going for. 284 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:42.759 I had a chortal or two throughout, and I'll tell 285 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:45.679 you why, because that statue doesn't look like Bill Bixby 286 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.639 at all, no matter how hard they try to convince you. 287 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:51.600 They could have had him rip his own face off 288 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:52.919 and put it on there, and then it would have 289 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.039 been like, yes, now it looks like Bill Bixby, only 290 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.559 because Bill Bixby's actual face is on it. It doesn't 291 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.279 look like him. So it makes every time they show 292 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.159 its face really funny because it looks funny. And then 293 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.480 the premise is I was gonna say the omen kind 294 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.000 of I don't know. It's like there's all these like 295 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.600 weird like premontory premonition things. If you were going to 296 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.159 do this and you're being possessed by this, and it's 297 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.600 it's goofy and for that I can appreciate it. It 298 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.960 didn't need to be thirty minutes. But again, I feel 299 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.639 like maybe that's like our we should stop saying that 300 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.080 at this point, because holy shit, we've said it a lot, 301 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.919 and this episode obviously is a candidate for that because 302 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.240 there's only two segments. So I think it was fun 303 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.399 and goofy, but if they were trying to be serious, 304 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:37.960 they failed real hard. 305 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.320 I thought this was a lot of fun. I had 306 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.039 a great time. First off. I think that the Night 307 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:50.960 Gallery should expand just from posters or sorry paintings into 308 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.360 satuary as well. I think that they really need to 309 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:58.279 expand their business, and having this in the gallery I 310 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.679 think would be a great conversation piece and it could 311 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.839 be sold fairly easily. I'm not sure who's in the 312 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:09.799 market for life size statues of people screaming with crowbars 313 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:11.319 in their hands. 314 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.359 An ancient crowbar, by the way, an ancient crowbar. 315 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:15.880 Yes. 316 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:18.519 And to your point, Mike, I thought that they were 317 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.079 going to do something with a statue because Rod is 318 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.279 standing in front of a weird dragon statue at the 319 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.599 beginning of this episode, and I was like, oh, hold on, 320 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.799 are like there are things in the background in the 321 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.440 night gallery that aren't paintings. They just never go up 322 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.559 to them. And it's like, why wasn't this that time, 323 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.319 of all times you could have your Bill Bixby statue 324 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:39.359 just standing there. 325 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.559 I actually have an answer for that, which is the 326 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:44.680 sculptures were all purchased all at once, make us weird 327 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.680 objects to Pepper the background and Tom Wright did all 328 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.599 of the individual paintings for the episodes because they even 329 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.880 if they're going to have statues show up, it's still 330 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.640 a painting gallery. I agree wholeheartedly with you. They should 331 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.720 have just had the goddamn statue sitting in the night. 332 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.119 Gawn already goes this thing. 333 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.759 Isn't it weird looking? Won't you like to know what 334 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.440 the story behind this is? Yes, we would, Rod, but 335 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.680 I get but again, like I get why they had 336 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:14.839 to stick with the consistency of the paintings. The paintings 337 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.319 ultimately are more successful, but that you could have made 338 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.079 it feel more tailored to each story, like you know, 339 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.720 a specific item like look at this item. 340 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.359 Here, A narrow view of what a gallery can hold, 341 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.839 even when they're displaying what a gallery can hold right 342 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:29.640 all around him. 343 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.519 I really was hoping that the statue would change as 344 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.599 it was going through. I did like that this episode 345 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.480 has what the last episode didn't, or a segment I 346 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:43.720 should say, which is actually things happening and changing so 347 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:46.359 it's not just the same thing over and over again. 348 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.880 I was afraid the first time the statue showed up 349 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.200 in his bedroom that it would only terrorize him at 350 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.200 night and that it would just keep doing the whole 351 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.599 creep up thing. But I was really happy to see 352 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.000 the way it progresses, in the way that Bill Bixby 353 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.559 is changing, and especially when he tries to sacrifice the cat, 354 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:12.759 which just so funny. I gotta say, Donna Douglas, this 355 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:16.119 is a competition between who is the more attractive blonde. 356 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.319 These ladies are both just incredible. 357 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.799 It's really a fistfight. Yes, yeah, I totally agree, because 358 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:27.880 here's the wife who is one thousand percent adorable, Carolynley, 359 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.160 and then here's the temptress. It's like, what could they 360 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.400 possibly owe her? Oh yeah, okay, I got it. 361 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.839 I got yeah, yeah, And I honestly it took me 362 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.240 a minute to realize that that was Donna Douglas. I 363 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.079 and she even had the Southern accent, so I'm like, 364 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.440 why did I not just immediately think Ellie May when 365 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:45.960 I saw her, and I guess it might have been 366 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.119 the outfits or something, but man, oh man, she's a knockout. 367 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:54.519 Of Beverly Hillbilly's alumni in this episode too, right. 368 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.319 Yeah, yeah, and yeah, Buddy wasn't looking too bad either. 369 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:00.400 No, yeah, she's no, she's great, she's great. I don't 370 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.039 know if the segment needed another like her character, like, 371 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.400 she's not in cahoots with the Sorcerer, She's just she's 372 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.279 just tempting him. So it feels like these things happening 373 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:14.720 at the same time. I wish they had maybe given 374 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:16.200 us a little bit more of a through line as 375 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.680 to maybe she has some sort of ulterior motive, because 376 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.440 again that we've seen that before in this show as well, 377 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:24.759 where they're like, oh, she's she just seems to be 378 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.119 into Bill Bixby, which you know what with those turtlenecks 379 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.240 and stuff, Like, I get it, she's a good looking guy, 380 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.000 but that statue with that facial hair, on the other hand, 381 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.000 he's looking like a real dork. 382 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.559 We've got a triangle here, and it's a pretty good one. 383 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.559 But to your point, Chris, what we needed is more 384 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.359 of Mildred's character to get her point of view from 385 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.200 what was going on here. Having said that this is 386 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.240 one of my favorites from this season, like, I had 387 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.960 a blast watching this one. I thought Swark's direction is 388 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.400 on point. I thought the story was good. Even if 389 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.279 I knew where it was going. Nobody could predicted that moment, Mike, 390 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.960 where Eddie's father holds a cat over a barbecue with 391 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.200 the full intention of frying and alive, and I fully 392 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:10.680 believed he was going to do it. 393 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:16.359 Oh, just the maid that comes up. I'm just putting 394 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.119 in my notice. 395 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.400 The poor maid that's just like a guest. She's have 396 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.319 to leave. Now. This man's trying to cook his cat. Oh, 397 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:25.079 it's so good. 398 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.240 It's just the adr of all the cats sound effects. 399 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.519 The poor cat's just like, what are you doing? And 400 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:31.920 then the sound effects. 401 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:37.200 As a callback to an earlier Night Gallery episode, Bill 402 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.839 Bixby struck me this time round as a perfect analog 403 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.720 of Roddy McDowell, because when he's endearing, he's very endearing, 404 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.359 and when he's smarmy, oh, I just want to drown him. 405 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.480 And he gets both here and now added layer here 406 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.240 the sort of fierce character the fierce Bill Bixby. We 407 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.200 get here as the Sorcerer was actually pretty great too. 408 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:02.119 I mentioned the all the zoom's going on here when 409 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:06.200 Bill Bixby lays out the statue's origins, This is before 410 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.640 he starts to get possessed. It starts on a close 411 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.079 up of the statue, which turns out to be a photograph, 412 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.000 which pans tilts up to Carolynley, which turns out she's 413 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.160 in a mirror. It then zooms back to include the 414 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.920 entire room. It's slick and economical coverage. Geno's wark ladies 415 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.519 and gentlemen. I just I can't anyway. Also during that scene, 416 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.200 Bill Bixby's laying out the history, as I said, and 417 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.359 he's being very ariutite in it. And then when he 418 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:35.240 gets to the word raping, he says rapin. There's no 419 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.119 g at the end like I could rape. 420 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.400 He sure does say is it twice? Actually? Which is 421 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:41.240 hume there. 422 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.039 Just a little odd to hear it so casual, you know. 423 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.599 I also laughed like crazy when they said the statue's 424 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.960 eyes have changed, and then they cut to it and 425 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.200 it looks like a whole different head on the statue, this. 426 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.559 Orange red eyes though these red eyes or head. 427 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.920 I'm like, what did they do refurbish its head? 428 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.000 I actually loved the shop owner who's just had this 429 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.000 thing sitting around for years, Like, this is the freakiest 430 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:10.960 fucking thing. I would get that thing out of my 431 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.799 shop and take it away, you know, after a while, 432 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:15.480 if it's sitting in your shop, he's like, I think 433 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.880 it's time to just get rid of this nightmare of 434 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.279 a piece of artwork because it looks like a human 435 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.400 being stuck in concrete. 436 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:26.359 Oh wait, oh wait. He's only getting rid of it 437 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.920 to make room for a dinette, so otherwise he wanted 438 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:32.240 to have it around some more. I guess he takes 439 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.599 it back at the end, he doesn't get that one back, 440 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.279 and he's very mad. He wants it back. 441 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:37.960 Had a set. 442 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:44.559 Yeah, so Bill Bixby murders his wife. Then at the end, 443 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.839 like after he turns, he just kills her and then 444 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.480 just becoming Anton Levey of the seventies. 445 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.279 Gets their Yeah, she's right, Yeah, I kind of like 446 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.599 it doesn't mind at all. 447 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.799 Hey, that's a fun bad ending, like a bum it's 448 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:02.960 a bummer of an ending, right. I guess if you 449 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.799 perceive the Bill Bixby character as the hero of the piece. 450 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:09.400 He gets frozen, but you know, the bad guy wins 451 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:10.720 in the end. Ain't nothing wrong with that. 452 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.759 Oh, speaking of zooms, that second scene, the scene where 453 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:16.079 Mildred gets confronted by him that she doesn't mind at 454 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.519 all things talk about the first of all, they're subtle 455 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.839 like hints with lighting, and then they got that circular 456 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.160 fucking barbecue that explodes into flame. But the scene where, 457 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.559 like I said that, there is this very subtle lighting 458 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.079 shift on Bill Binksby and then he's possessed. So it's 459 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:34.519 mostly Bill Bixby's performance that sounds. But that whole scene 460 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.960 is fantastic. I'm just gonna keep praising this. To this segment, 461 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.799 I will disagree with one. Yeah, yeah, it's mostly work 462 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:46.640 his work here. But the performances are just as on point, 463 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.720 as is the script by Alvin Sappinsley, who is our 464 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:51.240 only hope these days. 465 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.200 These are originals too. These aren't based I mean, that's 466 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.920 the other thing. A lot of these are like you 467 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:57.880 go and Look and it's based on a short story 468 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.960 by X Y and Z. And these two segments have 469 00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:04.680 both been a Serling original and a Sapinsley original, and 470 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:06.160 Serling is what he is. 471 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.119 But this is way better, way better. 472 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.640 Yeah, yeah, this one. I think if I had seen 473 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:14.119 this when I was a kid, it would really stick 474 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.000 with me. I could see, Oh, don't you remember that 475 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.079 episode with Bill Bixby where he turns it to a 476 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.359 statue because at the end when he's going to beat 477 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.440 it with that with his own crowbar, I thought that 478 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:26.440 was very effective. 479 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.240 And remember we had an episode with James Farantino earlier 480 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.720 in this season. It's basically the same story as this one, 481 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:35.079 so they can keep telling the same stories over and 482 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.680 over again as long as they're eventually going to get 483 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:37.880 it right. Because they got it right here. 484 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.559 And this was better than that segment two, that one 485 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:41.720 that you're referencing. 486 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.680 I think way better, That's what I'm saying. A thousand 487 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.279 yeah better. But it's the same idea. It's the same 488 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:50.359 plot effectively, but reworked and shot well and written well 489 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:51.799 and performed well and here we go. 490 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.160 And it was also smart to switch the main character 491 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.240 as opposed to like the secondary character, because in that one, 492 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.000 wasn't it his wife is the one that's right, And 493 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.720 this gives it, like, yeah, this gives it like a 494 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.480 lot more steaks and also like, it just gives it 495 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.559 a lot more weight that he's the one and he's 496 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.200 doing it, but the story is being presented effectively by 497 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.160 his point of view. It just gives it some more 498 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.400 weight because it's I'm with that character the whole time, 499 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.359 and that one it was like it it's his wife 500 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.680 and he has to prevent it. And again we're in 501 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.559 as invested as he is. But here it's okay it 502 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.240 he's the one who's in trouble. And yeah, he swings 503 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.319 at the statue and because he throws the same way, 504 00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:32.359 the exact same way is convenient with his own chrowbar. 505 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.200 It was fun. It was fun, and that's all it 506 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.279 needed to be. And I'm with you, Mike, if I 507 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:39.680 had seen this as a kid and we're like, that's 508 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.720 some freaky shit. Because the statue sticks with you. It 509 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:43.960 is such a choice. 510 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.599 The last one does look like Bixby, though, Oh yeah, yeah, 511 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.000 And I love that when he becomes the monk that 512 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.000 he then gets like the little fake beard. 513 00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.400 Oh my god, it's so wonderful. Yeah, seeing fixed beied 514 00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:02.200 any attempt at sinister is welcome, very welcome. 515 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.319 Oh yeah, and when his eyes change, I'm just like, oh, 516 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:07.240 don't make him angry? 517 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.720 Here we go, Yeah. Check the end credits leaf forragno 518 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:12.160 in here. 519 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:14.240 Yeah. 520 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.359 Painting number two in the Night Gallery addressing itself to 521 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.680 the strains and stresses of the married, having to do 522 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:23.839 with the fact that there is more than one way 523 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.960 to kill a cat and more than one way to 524 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:28.119 dispose of a wife. 525 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.640 Our painting is called Stop Killing Me. 526 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.119 Stop Killing Me was written by Jack Laird from a 527 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.640 short story by Hal Dresner Kuhan Luke's Hal Dresner Zorro 528 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.359 the Gay Blades Hal Dresner. Kind of a slide whistle 529 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.119 situation there. This one was also directed by Jenno Zwark, 530 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.880 starring Geraldine Page first of three appearances in the Night Gallery, 531 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.279 and James Gregory only. This is about a wife enlisting 532 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.359 the aid of a police officer because she believes her 533 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.799 husband is slowly ordering her through worry. What'd you think 534 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:03.960 of this one, Chris. 535 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.319 Yeah, this is a lot of fun. I mean it 536 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.119 does go on a little long too, but the length 537 00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.240 of this one is to sell. What's the length is 538 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.359 selling what they're going for? And like it works here, 539 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.519 so she is so haired with him that he is 540 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.559 just fuck Yeah. I see why this is the way 541 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.240 that it is like that works here, and I enjoyed 542 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.200 this episode. But I'm gonna be biased because I love 543 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:29.279 James Gregory now again when we started the Barney Miller Show, 544 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.359 not so much the case, but his characterization has grown 545 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.519 over time and grown on me. But seeing him here 546 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.400 is great. He's fun. She plays that character great. He 547 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.400 plays that character great. And I love that they keep 548 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.680 focusing on the photo of his wife uh at fucking 549 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.480 desk because it is the funniest thing reasoning Yeah, you're right, 550 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.799 I see there's you know, one would ever think divorce. 551 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.079 It's oh my god, this guy is just so pent 552 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.400 up and angry all day. Huh. He's just been waiting 553 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.680 for someone like her to walk through his door. And 554 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.039 I love that kind of storytelling where it's like these 555 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.200 two people were faded to be in this room together 556 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.319 for ten minutes and it totally works. 557 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.119 I wish that the well Jane's wark does something interesting 558 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:16.319 in this episode where Gerald and Page will basically imitate 559 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:20.079 her husband and repeat the lines that he keeps saying 560 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.519 to her, and when she does that, we get these 561 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:28.359 interesting cuts to almost like from the side. All of 562 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.559 a sudden and she will turn to the side and 563 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.319 start doing her husband's voice, not like literally saying what 564 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.319 he's saying, and then cut back and she'll move back. 565 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:40.759 And they did that a few times, but then they 566 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.920 just started doing it kind of willy nilly. As far 567 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.960 as where she was going to turn to the left, 568 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.759 to the right, to the straight to wherever. I wish 569 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.519 she had been a little bit more consistent with that, 570 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.839 because I thought it was a good device. The way 571 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.799 it ended up overall, I still liked it, but it 572 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.279 just I thought it could have been a little bit 573 00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.599 more powerful as far as that went. But I thought 574 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.319 that was nice, and I also like that to your point, Chris, 575 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.079 we have to spend this time. We have to take 576 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.119 this time to hear the basically psychological warfare that this 577 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:17.000 guy has been waging on his wife, letting her know 578 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:22.160 that she has very little time to live, and when 579 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.599 the payoff happens. I complain a lot about, Oh, we 580 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.079 know where this is going to go. I was really 581 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.440 looking forward to this going where it went to. 582 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.279 This one is a flip side not of Satan but 583 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.960 of the late mister Pettington from two episodes ago, except here, 584 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.759 instead of a woman talking herself into murder. She convinces 585 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.559 another of the ease of which he can dispatch his 586 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:46.799 own spouse starts with a great b roll of the 587 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:51.680 New York City skyline, dingy kind of nineteen seventies. Look 588 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.319 at the show, which I always love. I think, I 589 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.680 think Geraldine Page is so electric here in that scene 590 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.519 that those moments killer Michael. She's pantomiming her husband, and 591 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.759 we keep cutting to this unknown point of view. It's 592 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.119 ultimately the viewer's point of view, or her point of view, 593 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.440 because it's the husband talking to her and being servered. 594 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.319 The cuts are so jarring, but she's so funny. This 595 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.039 is a horrible situation, and the things that this husband 596 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.480 is doing to her is really beyond the pale when 597 00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.039 you really think about it, and the way her performance 598 00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.920 just I don't know, I thought it was hilarious, if 599 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:28.920 only he could stop with the killing me, killing me, 600 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:29.440 killing me. 601 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.640 When I really thought I knew what way this episode 602 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.680 was going to go with that title, I thought that 603 00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.279 she was going to come in and it was going 604 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.680 to be a d OA situation. I want to report 605 00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.279 a murder who's mind. But then I actually thought that 606 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.839 she was dead and was coming in. When she said, 607 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:55.039 my husband's killing me right now, I was like, oh, okay, 608 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.920 that's interesting, Like she's astral projecting or something. So I 609 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.839 took this in a whole different way, but I ended 610 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.680 up liking where it went, which was not supernatural whatsoever. 611 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.279 I thought that too. I thought that too when she 612 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.039 said that. It was like, oh, like, cause again, like 613 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.880 that's what it seems like, there's some angle here and 614 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.319 it's just no, he's just he's almost like Pusher from 615 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:19.880 the X Files, where it's. 616 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.000 Like that's. 617 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.400 Yeah, it's this weird, like just suggesting over and over 618 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.079 again that it's putting her on edge constantly. I can't 619 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.400 even imagine what that would be like. 620 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.400 But good lord, I don't think we needed the sound 621 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.839 effect of her getting run over in traffic. That wasn't necessary. 622 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.680 Like the plot, the plan of it was obviously working. 623 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.640 She left that police station feeling really no better than 624 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.400 when she came in. There's certainly no less safe, So 625 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.440 just having the police officer talking to his wife would 626 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.119 would have been sufficient. I do think we hold a 627 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.480 little too long at the end, a little too long 628 00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.559 on the picture of his wife, Like a minute feels. 629 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.759 Like I was I mean, to your point with the 630 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.079 sound effect, it almost seems like it was added after 631 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.960 the fact, and I know it obviously was, but more 632 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.799 like they didn't ask James Gregory to react to anything, 633 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.880 because I watched it a couple times and he doesn't 634 00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.880 react at all, but we hear it as the audience. 635 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.400 It's like he would have heard it. He should have reacted. 636 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.680 There should have been like a sly little smirk or 637 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.799 a grin or something, and there's nothing. So it almost 638 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.640 it feels like they gilded the lily just a little. 639 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.480 I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a pretty good 640 00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.880 segment that is just too on the nose. 641 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.720 I think it's twice as long as it probably should 642 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.119 have been. But I'm not in any way angry at it, 643 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.920 because I would watch Geraldine Pages do just about anything. 644 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.839 I think she's great here anything else about this one, though, 645 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.519 I think it's just really solid and I'm glad we're 646 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.039 getting them. Yeah, peaks and valleys with this show, gentlemen, 647 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:47.119 Peaks and funtin all right. 648 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.240 I like the idea that James Gregory is at one point, 649 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.599 he's like she asked him, is your wife still as 650 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.480 beautiful as the day you married her and he just 651 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.519 like stares at that photo just a moment too long, 652 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.920 just a no, you're right, it's just again like James 653 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.960 Gregory was the perfect person for this role. 654 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.680 You know, it's funny perfect. While watching it, I was like, 655 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.920 I know this guy from somewhere. He's so good. I'm like, 656 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.199 I'm gonna look him up so we can discuss him 657 00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:12.920 on the show. And then I saw the credits of 658 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.519 Barney Miller and I'm not gonna just close my notebook, 659 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.760 Like these guys can supply all the information we need 660 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:19.920 to know about James Gregory. 661 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:24.880 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is almost a prequel. But 662 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.000 I don't think Luger took this career path. Plus I 663 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.880 don't think he would be married according to Chris's theory. 664 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.760 I am my theory hashtag Luger big gay. 665 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.760 Well maybe that's why he's got to kill the wife. 666 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.760 He's come out, you know. 667 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.679 Yeah, bottom alone. Just two highlights off of mister Gregory's career. 668 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.480 Won the role that he played in Manchurion Candidate. He 669 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:55.480 was the husband what's her name, Angela Lanceberry? Really good role, yes, 670 00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.360 And then the other one is General Ursus. I believe 671 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.000 is his name from Planet of the Apes, Planet of 672 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:02.440 the Apes. 673 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.519 Yes, yeah, that voice, man, he's so good. He's great 674 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.519 in this As a two person segment, yeah, bottle thing. 675 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.000 We got here for fourteen straight minutes. These two could 676 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.480 have taken another fourteen. Honestly, if they could have had 677 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.320 some machinations added to this would have been perfectly satisfied. 678 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.880 Now this one here, unabashed and unashamed, I submit to 679 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.280 you as a dandy. It does into an ancient funeral 680 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.320 rite having to do with a person. It's called a 681 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.039 sin eator, one who attends awake and partakes of the 682 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:38.840 funeral food, and in the process digests all the transgressions 683 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.760 of the deceased, so that he departs the earth a 684 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:45.400 much cleaner and sweeter little item. Proving that we've become 685 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:48.719 a bit more sophisticated in our tribal rites, but we 686 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.239 are much the poorer for our twentieth century chromium intellect. 687 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.519 You might agree with me after you've seen Sins of 688 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:57.199 the Fathers. 689 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.559 The Sins of the father written by Halsted Wells from 690 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.000 a short story by Christiana Brand and directed by Jenno 691 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.079 Zwark or Jean Zwark. He's Jean Zuark Now. It stars 692 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.519 Geraldine Page, Richard Thomas, Michael Dunn, Alexander the Star Trek. 693 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.880 People will recognize him from Plato's step children. He was 694 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.440 also in eure A Big Boy Now, the Copolas first film, 695 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.880 but I will always know him as doctor Migolito Loveless. 696 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.880 For so many seasons, he was Jamee West, central antagonist 697 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.960 on The Wild Wild West. Rounding out this massive caster, 698 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.760 Alan Napier, Cyril de Levante, John Barclay, and Barbara fucking Steele. 699 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.039 This is okay this tale. It tells one of my 700 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.320 absolute favorite Old World rituals. This is a Wells tale. 701 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.320 We had in our last episode, we had a Wells tale. 702 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.639 This one is also from Wales and the Men. The 703 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.960 myth is the sin Eater, which we'll see it play 704 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.360 out dramatically here. But the actual tradition was there would 705 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.320 be an outcast in a village and he would be 706 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.199 given a feast every time somebody died, so that he 707 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.159 would take on their sins of the deceased, and the 708 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.159 deceased would go to heaven and he'd be given the 709 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.280 feest no matter how much food that village had. If 710 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.480 there was a famine, there it didn't matter. Every morsel 711 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.119 needed to go to the sin eater. He always was 712 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.360 eating like royalty. The downside, of course, was he was 713 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.800 going to burn in hell for eating all of those sins. 714 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:16.920 Now. 715 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.320 I heard about this tradition long before I saw this, 716 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.719 and it's always fascinated me. And recently I was talking 717 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.800 to a friend of mine named Janisman, who is Welsh 718 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.719 and lives in Wales. I asked her about this tradition 719 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.320 and she had no fucking idea what I was talking about. Anyway, 720 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.599 this is the tale of the sin Eater, or the 721 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.000 son of a sin Eator. Richard Thomas has prodded into 722 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.800 a sin eating con game where he's to spirit away 723 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.119 all the food from the corpse and thus sidestemped the 724 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.639 whole damnation thing and feed his family, which actually sounds 725 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.800 like a pretty good idea, except it's a double cross. Chris, 726 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:49.679 what did you think of this one? 727 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.480 You forgot to mention the most important sin eating piece 728 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.079 of media, the two thousand and three classic The Order 729 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.760 starring Heath Ledger, as a sin eat in there. I 730 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.800 think investigating sin eating in the Vatican. 731 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.280 Wow, actually not bad, not. 732 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.480 A bad movie, But I digress. I'm with you. I 733 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.320 like the whole sin Eating angle, which is why I 734 00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.079 mentioned the order if anyone else is interested in seeing 735 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:19.159 something not this old world like. That's the thing I 736 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.599 appreciate about this is that it is an old world 737 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:27.239 tale that feels proper disgusting and griming and weird. I 738 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:28.840 think again, I go back to the well of the 739 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.719 things that I've said before, the well of brevity. Here 740 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:37.400 they just don't want to tell three stories anymore. They 741 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.079 just want to tell two. And it's I can see 742 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.360 in these episode segments where they just needed to chill 743 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:48.239 out and maybe maybe take your story through two or 744 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.760 three more passes, because it's just there's just too much 745 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.000 going on here again, and I don't think all the 746 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.280 pieces that are moving around the main moving pieces needed 747 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.199 to be there to get the main moving piece. His 748 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:01.920 story told in an interesting way. 749 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.280 How about you, Mike? 750 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:09.199 I prefer the sin Eater enemy of I believe he 751 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.239 was the enemy of both ghost Rider and Spider Man, 752 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.239 but I mostly remember him from Spider Man comics, so 753 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.480 that was my familiarity with Sin Eating. I love Michael Dunn, 754 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.880 he was great in this. Richard Thomas, Wow, what a performance. 755 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.960 Rereally screamy throughout this whole thing. I was so confused 756 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.119 at parts because they were talking about eating the food 757 00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.559 out of the guy's chest. 758 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:35.039 Right. 759 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.360 They said that like two or three times, right, Yes, yeah, 760 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.519 there's no food on the chest, it's just around. It's 761 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.760 a bunch of plates around. I didn't get that. 762 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.960 Well, yeah, and even further the way they kept saying it, 763 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.079 I thought he was they had hollowed out his chest, right, 764 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.400 put the food inside it, and then when it wasn't that, 765 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.199 I thought that if it's on his chest and he 766 00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.639 has to take it all off of it, that would 767 00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.400 be something. But you're right, it's just ringed around body. 768 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.440 Very nice plates. I mean, the presentation could have been better. 769 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.800 I don't know about the taste myself, but yeah, definitely 770 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.400 the plating needed some work. 771 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.840 I tried to find out what else was filming on 772 00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.320 the Universal lot around this time, because in this episode, 773 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.719 in the previous episode as well, they're clearly using an 774 00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.679 amazing set, this old the Old World set that's an 775 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.199 interior set, interior for ext year. It looks fantastic. It 776 00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.199 looks better here than it looked in the previous episode 777 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.880 where that it was directed very clumsily, but you know, 778 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.639 Sark makes this one look great. I love Barbara Steele, 779 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.599 always glad to see her. Wish she was in the 780 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.880 episode more quite frankly, she's got like maybe two lines 781 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.639 in the whole thing, the mom in it, Geraldine Page. 782 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.480 This is a very recent return here. She was in 783 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.440 a previous episode stopped killing me here on Night Gallery, 784 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.119 and I thought she was really good here. I speaking 785 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.760 to what you were saying, Mike. I can't tell if 786 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.360 Richard Thomas is good or bad here. It's a thankless role. 787 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:02.239 This like muling petulant child. So he's nailing that part 788 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:03.880 of it. Should Is it good? 789 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.119 Though? I don't know. 790 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.760 Also, I don't need to see his saliva, does anyone 791 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:10.960 Richard Thomas's saliva A. 792 00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:12.239 Lot of saliva. 793 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.360 Yeah, the tongue just lolling around in that mouth of 794 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:16.960 God Almighty. 795 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.800 It did portray hunger very well. 796 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.000 But well, I believed he was hungry, but he made 797 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.360 me completely disgusted. 798 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:24.599 Yeah. 799 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:27.039 Well, I don't think that he needed to ride that 800 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.280 horse sall twelve miles and have poor little Michael Dunn 801 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.239 who looks like every step he takes hurts him. I mean, 802 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.679 it was painful to watch Michael Dunn walk because you know, 803 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.400 he's got the dwarf legs and it's just not very 804 00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.119 easy for him to do that. And I was like, now, 805 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.360 let this guy ride on the horse with you. He 806 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.760 doesn't need to walk twelve miles with you over hill 807 00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.559 and dale and through this mountainous, treacherous pass. Just give 808 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:53.320 the guy a lift. 809 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.239 Man conboy doesn't share no horse. 810 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.239 No, that's true. That negotiation occurred when we were talking 811 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.519 about her an a husband. It made sense that he 812 00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.519 was probably going to be sprawled out on the horse, 813 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.239 so I agree. I kept wondering why you wouldn't just 814 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.760 reach down and go, come on, let's go, just so 815 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.079 he can get there quicker, like what slowly can't beside 816 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.679 this dwarf? Like it's a bit cruel. 817 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:18.280 It is. 818 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:18.840 It is. 819 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:24.039 The makeup on both the corpses. Oh, spoilers looked pretty good. 820 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.760 But yeah, I saw that twist coming a mile away. 821 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.760 So I was just like, okay, yeah, why aren't you 822 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.760 eating the food? Why are you saying I won't eat 823 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.679 a morsel? Why are you saying that your son will 824 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.760 eat all of this food? Because there's another sin eater. 825 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.320 And now you have to eat the sins of the 826 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:38.840 sin eater. 827 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:42.320 I like that tis honestly, it's a good twist, but it. 828 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:45.000 Is a good question. 829 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.320 It was just a little telegraphed, Yeah, but it posed 830 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.440 an interesting solution to the sin eating lifestyle. You just 831 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.840 have to have a relative that'll eat yours and then 832 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.280 you got to keep that thing going. 833 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.079 Right, and someday you'll have a son I love, and 834 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:00.800 she says. 835 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.639 Horrible, horrible. I did wonder a little bit how long 836 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.039 has he been living there with them, this Richard Thomas's character, 837 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.199 and have no interest in the family business, Like he 838 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.280 doesn't know the words, he doesn't know anything about it, Like, 839 00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:17.320 how can you not? 840 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:18.360 It's all they do. 841 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.840 Should be the first thing they taught you was that 842 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.599 prayer you're supposed to scream out when you're about to 843 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.199 eat the sin. You would think, right, you just pick 844 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:30.480 it up just by osmosis, right right, Yeah, I agree 845 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:30.639 with you. 846 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.760 That Geraldine Page was very fun in this. She with 847 00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.519 that head thing around her head. I was just like, 848 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.159 she looked very much like a tale from Canterbury Tales 849 00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:43.480 or something like from the story from the artwork. I 850 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.440 should say. Yeah, I thought she gave a great performance. 851 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.920 As well, and I agree with you that I wish 852 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.480 there had been a lot more Barbara Steele because it 853 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.599 was just like a tease at the beginning of the 854 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.239 end once again, the end with Geraldine Page, where she 855 00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:00.920 has effectively tricked her son into eternal damnation, all the 856 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.599 while assuring him of all these different ways that you 857 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.679 will prevent him from being damned. 858 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.559 I just loved it. I thought it was so good 859 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:09.480 that she did it to him. 860 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.079 And you know what, Yes, it is twenty nine minutes, 861 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.840 but I think even if it went a little long, 862 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.800 as weird as Richard Thomas's performance is, I think it's 863 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:25.199 an interesting performance, even if it is just get overde 864 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.039 he's overacting. I feel like he's slabbering, yeah, and a 865 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.119 lot of just like big decisions. But I like it 866 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.679 in this because it feels a little different than all 867 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.960 these other episode segments we've seen in the Old World, 868 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.280 where there's not like one kind of big performance. He's 869 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.239 just going for it, which I appreciate. Again, I just 870 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:49.039 it is a thankless, completely thankless role for someone having 871 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.880 to just lick their tongue constantly for half an. 872 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.719 Hour, and a thankless role for us having to watch it. 873 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:00.480 There are horror stories and horror stories elements terror that 874 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.079 take myriad forms, but this item has a built in 875 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.159 terror which can refrigerate even the most dispassionate amongst us. 876 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:09.960 It has to do with a little beastie known as 877 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:16.000 an earwig, a small bug that crawls into the human 878 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:20.960 ear and while inside it doesn't whisper sweet nothings, it 879 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.519 performs quite another function. 880 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:24.159 Over do you now? 881 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.079 On Night Gallery a brand new nightmare which we call 882 00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:29.639 the Caterpillar. 883 00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.800 The Caterpillar was written by Rod Serling from a short 884 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.199 story called Boomerang by Oscar Cook, which is a better title, 885 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.159 and it was directed by Jean Zwarc who I think 886 00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.440 this might be his best direction of the entire series, 887 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.079 maybe his career. This one stars Lawrence Harvey, Joanna Pettitt. 888 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.960 This is her third of four appearances on Night Gallery, 889 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.639 Tom Hellmore, John Williams this is his second appearance, and 890 00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.360 Don Knight as a He's a professional English scumbag. This 891 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.199 guy was on every television show including Banichick, including Colombo 892 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.719 in Swamp Thing. The Trader is pricked, That Australian traders prick. 893 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.840 That's him, but I mainly know him from abandoning three 894 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.519 adorable children, and then, just when Bill Bixby and Susan 895 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.880 Clark have them settled into a comfortable life, he thinks 896 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.239 he can swoop in and rip them away for what money? 897 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.440 How dare you separate the Apple Dumpling Gang? Anyway, this 898 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.719 is a tale of jealousy and borneo and a most 899 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.119 elaborate and simple plan with which to woo a prospective mate, Mike, 900 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.079 what do you think of this one? 901 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.199 Shouldn't it really be called the Earwig? 902 00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:34.039 Can we? 903 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.679 That was really bothering me now all. 904 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.119 The problems in the episode, that's the dumbest one. Like 905 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:47.039 like boomerang is a perfect title for it. It means 906 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.400 just as much as a caterpillar, because neither feature in 907 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:51.199 the episode at all. 908 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.599 Yeah, yeah, it would have been nice if something. But yeah, 909 00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:00.119 I I must have either seen this or seen one 910 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.440 of the countless adaptations of this story or this feels 911 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.440 like a It's like a campfire tale, right, this whole thing. 912 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.480 We took out the thing, but the thing laid babies. 913 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.880 And I think I heard spider when I first heard 914 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:20.119 this story. Okay, cool, but that was well done. I 915 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.480 really like the Lawrence Harvey. I find it very funny 916 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:25.800 because Chris, we're gonna be talking about Lawrence Harvey again 917 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.800 this week, so like Lawrence Harveying all over the place 918 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.599 right now, which is great. Yeah, but it was just 919 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.239 like a black out skit that was stretched very long, again, 920 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.079 but better than most of these ones that we've talked 921 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.960 about lately. They're going out on a high note. 922 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.239 How about you, Chris, You know Father Malone. 923 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.679 You and I used to do a show about Tales 924 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:49.519 from the Crypt, and I think that this is in 925 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.880 that wheelhouse. There are a couple episodes of that show 926 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.280 that I can remember back. I want to say one 927 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.880 there's a woman with her hit and she's a zombie, 928 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.159 and then there's a guy's head on a plate and 929 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.000 they're in like Jamaica or something, and it's to be 930 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.719 careful what you wish for type thing where he's a 931 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.519 jilted lover or something. So I'm I love it. I 932 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.440 love the bunch of these studgy British Dickens in Bonio, 933 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:18.159 like I love that. It's fantastic. The setting is great. 934 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.159 I don't think they take too much advantage of it 935 00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:24.440 because it feels rather set bound. Unfortunately, because it takes 936 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.920 place inside of this plantation house with Lawrence Harvey just 937 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:32.599 being horned up big time, like an erection popping through 938 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.159 his fucking pants, like the moment he sees her, and 939 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.320 it's just like she, to her credit, she is like 940 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.000 hell no. Johanna Pettitt is like hell no from moment one, 941 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.840 which is interesting because normally in these kinds of stories, 942 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.239 there's like this in the air up in the airness 943 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.440 about the female character's feelings towards the unrequited male love. 944 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.679 In this, she's like, go take a cold shower, an 945 00:48:58.800 --> 00:48:59.639 ice your dick. 946 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.480 I wrote in my notes, finally a love triangle story 947 00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.639 where there aren't two people who are wrong. 948 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.400 Right, And I absolutely loved that aspect of this because this, honestly, 949 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.360 father Blah, feels like the crescendo moment of having spent 950 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.960 all those years watching Tales from the Crypt and they 951 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.320 just kept doing that shit over and over again. You 952 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.079 have to have one of the people on the love 953 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.039 triangle say no at some point, and it totally works here. 954 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.199 It was very fresh, It was fresh, and the title 955 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.400 is terrible. Yes, both things we can agree on. Oscar Cook, 956 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.360 the author of the short story, apparently was in the 957 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.159 military in Borneo wrote a lot of stories that took 958 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.840 place there, which is why it's set here. And and 959 00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.760 himself said that this is a parable for rich white entitlement, 960 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.400 that Lawrence Harvey's character is just this wealthy guy who 961 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:50.960 just wants what he wants and he's gonna take it 962 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.679 no matter what I do. Like that. Lawrence Harvey is 963 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.119 one year away from death here. He has stomach cancer. 964 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.039 He's in the throes of it here, and evidently during 965 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.079 the scenes when the earwig is eating his brain, did 966 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.639 not take his pain medication for that day of filming. 967 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.920 So what you're seeing is actual genuine torment of Lawrence 968 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:18.000 Harvey that coupled with the makeup is fantastic. Here, if 969 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.280 you look at his ear, you can see that the 970 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.400 hair all around the area has been scratched off. You 971 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.880 can see where his nails have gouged at his own ears, 972 00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:31.239 thus necessitating him being tied to that bed. I thought 973 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.000 that was really hard to watch and therefore really good. Also, 974 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.559 he's wearing some fantastic button up boots when we first 975 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.760 meet him. They were beautiful. The music in this episode 976 00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.920 was handled by a new composer to Night Gallery. His 977 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.239 name's Eddie Sauter. If you listen close in the background, 978 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.599 there's an electric sitar and a marimba and these electronic squeaks. 979 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.960 It's fantastic. Eddie Saunter used to be an arranger for 980 00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.039 Artie Shaw and Tommy Dorsey and the Benny Goodman Orchestra, 981 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.159 and he will be provided the new theme for Night 982 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.679 Gallery that we have with season three. In fact, Eddie 983 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.159 Saunter will compose all of the music from here on 984 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:09.280 out for Night Gallery. 985 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:10.559 Yeah right. 986 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.360 I mentioned that I think this is Juark's best segment, 987 00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.519 is best directed segment. I agree, Chris. This is a 988 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.599 bottle episode. It is definitely a one location episode, but 989 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.039 I don't think it's set bound at all. I think 990 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:28.079 it's beautifully shot, very carefully lit and photographed. There's a 991 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.599 shot where there's a wooden scrim on the left side 992 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.079 of the screen and Lawrence Harvey and the husband's heads 993 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.760 are both floating above it, and Joanna Pettitt steps into 994 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.920 the frame on the right full frame, So these two 995 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.199 floating heads of these two characters who want her, and 996 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:47.199 then Harvey has that super creepy line that his appetite 997 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.360 is increasing while he's staring at her. The camera slides 998 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.639 to the left. The husband is now gone. It's now 999 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.280 Joanna Pennitt and Harvey in the frame together and in 1000 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.239 the background behind them are rifles and pistols. It's a 1001 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.199 beautiful shit. It's he should have been nominated for an 1002 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.079 Emmy for this thing. The day after the earwig has 1003 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.679 been inserted into the wrong ear or was it the 1004 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.480 right ear, everyone at breakfast is dressed like George Ramia. 1005 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.679 They're all wearing the Safari jackets. It was so distracting 1006 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.400 for me because I know George Ramia is just kind 1007 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.360 of wear that as a uniform, and I know that's 1008 00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.599 exactly what everyone would be wearing in Borneo at this 1009 00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:25.480 time period. But it was still a bit unsettling. Okay, 1010 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.800 the Don Williams character, I said, was it the wrong 1011 00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.559 ear of the right ear? Because do you think it's 1012 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.719 possible that character intentionally had the earput heard the earwig 1013 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.800 put into Lawrence Harvey's ear, like hearing his plan and 1014 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:38.480 what he was doing. 1015 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.719 I thought that for a little. 1016 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.239 Bit, but I wondered that too. 1017 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:47.159 But that scene where he's like, oh sorry, they put 1018 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:51.039 it in the wrong I paid some times, like fucking 1019 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.079 the most British guy around everybody. He had a fucking 1020 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.599 eel pie hanging out of his mouth for fos sake. 1021 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.519 I love that scene. You get that out? 1022 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.559 Yeah you figured out am Britain. 1023 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.840 I am him like but I but there's like in 1024 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:11.320 that scene Shirk's conventions too, because I'm expecting him to 1025 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.199 show up at the window and be like, you know, 1026 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.599 tough shit, asshole, but he's like, I'm sorry. So I 1027 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.920 don't know. I don't think. I think he was genuinely 1028 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.960 an accident and he feels bad because that scenems like now, 1029 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.920 I say, it's moving, but a couple that with Lawrence 1030 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.599 Harvey just going and like making the noises like you 1031 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.360 feel for both of the characters in the scene, which 1032 00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.400 is not something I can say for a lot of 1033 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.880 the segments in Night Gallery. So I kind of feel 1034 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.320 like it was an accident just based on that one 1035 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:40.079 scene alone. 1036 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.920 What's funny is I hadn't considered that it was intentionally 1037 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.800 put into Laurence Harvey's here until he comes up to apologize, 1038 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.800 and then I thought, he's really contrite about this. Did 1039 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.559 he do this? And now he feels bad because he's 1040 00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.880 seeing the results of it. I don't know, maybe I 1041 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.599 was working overtime on this one, but at least this 1042 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.440 particular segment begs these kind of questions and are conversation's 1043 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:06.000 worth having. 1044 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.880 Also, you mentioned the lighting in some of the scenes. 1045 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.000 The scene where they're in the bar and it's the 1046 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:17.039 first time that Lawrence Harvey and mister Britton meet with 1047 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:22.119 his hat and it's lit really darkly except for Lawrence 1048 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.039 Harvey's eyes. 1049 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:28.280 Yeah, that's called the halo eyelight, which Jean Jean zik 1050 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.440 here like he uses on Lawrence Harvey at every opportunity. 1051 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.840 And why wouldn't you Lawrence Harvey's faces. Look, I know 1052 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.360 he's sick here, but what a face, man. He always 1053 00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:41.679 had those cheekbones and that gaunt, stony kind of stare. 1054 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.440 This is a guy who too often, in my opinion, 1055 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.800 got cast as a hero in movies, and that's what 1056 00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.119 kept him from getting further, I think, because if you 1057 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.639 cast him as a villain, he's fucking aces man, just 1058 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:53.480 like you see him here. 1059 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.440 That's why he was perfect in the mentoring candidate because 1060 00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.639 you didn't know is he this or is he bad? 1061 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.760 Everybody's fawning over him, but you know something's that right? 1062 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:06.800 I love his eyebrow raises. It's the eyebrow raises. I 1063 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.760 mean it's his eyeline. Really, it's that tease zone area. 1064 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:11.360 But those eyebrows. 1065 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:15.000 Man, he's like he can do like a John Philip 1066 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:20.199 Law eyebrow raise like he he would be the American diabolic. 1067 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.400 That's exactly. I could not put my finger on who 1068 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.760 he was reminding me of. But yes, John Philip Law. 1069 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.559 Holy lord. Here's here's a fun fact that ruins the 1070 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.440 entire episode. There are no pain receptors in the brain. 1071 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.599 But other than that, I really really liked it, which 1072 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.039 is a fact. This is an episode I knew about 1073 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.760 long before I had ever seen it, because Stephen King 1074 00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.199 chronicles it in his book Dance Macabre, his his fiction 1075 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.079 book of horror from nineteen seventy nine or so, where 1076 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.320 he kind of he kind of lays into the series 1077 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.960 as not being anything very good, but he singles this 1078 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.800 particular episode out as achieving the highest level of horror 1079 00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.679 that he thought the series would ever get to. 1080 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.519 Yes, yeah, I can see, I would agree. Well, we 1081 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.159 haven't seen the rest of the season so or the series, 1082 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:11.079 so that doesn't boat will. But the Master of Horror. 1083 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.679 There's so many books at half price books with ks 1084 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.360 on them that are just even King and no other 1085 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.639 horror writer. So he must be right. I hope not. 1086 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.800 But at the same time, I mean, this is I 1087 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:24.920 guess this is scary. I don't know. I don't to 1088 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.320 sit and think about. The ending is the ending of 1089 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.480 this scary ending? He's just gonna die, That's it. Like 1090 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.440 he's just gonna his head's gonna explode and he's gonna die. 1091 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:35.840 Oh is that all? 1092 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:40.039 We watched him with one in his ear, writhing and 1093 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.679 not being able to vocalize at all from the horrendous 1094 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.920 amount of pain he was enduring. And now he's going 1095 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:47.599 to have at least a dozen or so more of 1096 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:48.199 them in there. 1097 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:50.320 Yeah, and they'll kill him, right. 1098 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.400 The only ending for him is a pistol, right, just 1099 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:53.480 take it off of the wall. 1100 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.360 That'd be too good for you, mate. You'll have to 1101 00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:57.840 say and endure the pain. 1102 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.559 Here's what I really liked, go through this entire ordeal. 1103 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.360 It's a miracle. John Williams shows up to tell us 1104 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:06.800 that the ear came out to the other ear, and 1105 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.920 then Laurence Harvey immediately reverts to being a cocksucker in 1106 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:16.679 the face. Miracle. Yes, Oh, so this this come up 1107 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.679 and absolutely genuinely earned. 1108 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:24.000 You're gonna have me arrested at the dock, aren't you? No, 1109 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:25.039 We're not. 1110 00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:27.880 Oh so good. 1111 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.280 Yeah, Yeah, there were some good bits to this definitely, 1112 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.480 but like I said, it just felt a little long. 1113 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.239 I guess it was those writhing and pain scenes, Like 1114 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.320 it felt like it just went on for a long time. 1115 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:42.679 If you've watched the recent one, this is probably the 1116 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.000 one off of the DVD that the episode is thirty 1117 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:49.639 three minutes, but that's technically like a director's cut because 1118 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.239 when it was originally aired, I think like six minutes 1119 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.639 were cut out of it, So we definitely got to 1120 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.960 see the full length version. Maybe had we seen the 1121 00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.719 original and what ended up on syndication version, like a 1122 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.679 lot of a lot of our problems might have gone 1123 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:02.440 away with the episode. 1124 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.440 In the area of the old cult, it's customary to 1125 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:10.000 preoccupy ourselves with witchets, and too infrequently we dabble on 1126 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.239 the male side of that time honored profession, the sorcerer. 1127 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.840 On display here is a painting showing the natural habitat 1128 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.280 of this species of black art practitioner Dark Alley, murky light, 1129 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.679 A few sundry skulls, and the gentleman himself on the 1130 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:29.280 right of the picture with the upraised hand and the 1131 00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.400 funny little goat horns. Yes, indeed this is a sorcerer, 1132 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.079 and for those of you who disbelieve his existence, we 1133 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.239 invite you to check this out for a little while. 1134 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.840 Our painting is called the Return of the Sorcerer, and 1135 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.719 we're a better place for him to return than right 1136 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:47.599 here in the night gallery. 1137 00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.559 Rod wants us check this out. It's Return of the Sorcerer. 1138 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.400 This was season three, episode one, released on September the 1139 00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.559 twenty fourth, nineteen seventy two. It was written by Holston Wells, 1140 00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:02.360 based on a Clark in Smith's short story, and directed 1141 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.320 by Jenno Zwark or jenzwark I noticed that Yeah, he'll 1142 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.639 be known by the more sophisticated and way easier to 1143 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.519 say Jen Zwark for the rest of the season. This 1144 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.840 one stars Vincent Price. This is his second appearance on 1145 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.039 That Guy, Tia Sterling her first, and Bill Bixby special 1146 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.559 appearance by Bill Bixby and his second appearance. In this one, 1147 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:25.000 Bill Bixby is hired to translate an ancient text by 1148 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:25.679 a sorcerer. 1149 00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:27.000 What could go on? 1150 00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:29.760 What did you think of this one, Mike, I was very. 1151 00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.920 Confused, but the one I kept trying to figure out 1152 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:37.639 the power dynamics between Tisia Sterling and Vincent Price. And 1153 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.800 then there's this whole talk about Vincent Price is a 1154 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.960 twin and he cut off his twins head and the 1155 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:48.280 head is someplace, and I'm just like, this sounds far 1156 00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.280 more interesting than a translation story. And then this goat 1157 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.199 keeps showing up, and I'm like, Bill Bixby's okay with this. 1158 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.039 I mean, seven hundred and fifty dollars a week as 1159 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.320 somebody's making. Yes, I'd be okay with that as well, 1160 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.239 because that's. 1161 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.079 I'd be okay with that. Now in nineteen seventy two, 1162 01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.519 that was the equivalent of fifty five hundred dollars. 1163 01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.559 Holy cow wow. I mean, I guess he's not going 1164 01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.000 to be around to spend it. Is The thing is 1165 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.119 because the person who translates the stuff is supposed to 1166 01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.519 have all these horrible things done to him. 1167 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.519 Or is he. 1168 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.840 Yeah, nice hand off there at the end? 1169 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.519 I mean, is it just me or is it very confusing? 1170 01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:30.079 Oh? 1171 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:31.519 Yeah, it's all over the place. 1172 01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:32.119 It's okay. 1173 01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.360 It's Clark Ashton Smith who's just trying to emulate his 1174 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.760 idol HP Lovecraft, but not really understanding what HP Lovecraft 1175 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:40.239 was doing. 1176 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.760 Right, That's what it felt like. It felt like Lovecraft light. 1177 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:49.079 To me, Lovecraft light or Lovecraft two words love Craft, 1178 01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:49.719 you know what I mean? 1179 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:51.880 Oh, he went there? 1180 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:53.159 He went there? 1181 01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:54.360 Can he say that? 1182 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:56.440 Pull his license? 1183 01:00:57.639 --> 01:00:57.880 For me? 1184 01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.239 It ultimately comes down to, once again, we have a 1185 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.559 story of a man with a secret who brings someone 1186 01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.599 else in to help him solve that secret. I feel 1187 01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:07.800 like we've seen this story in the end of season 1188 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.920 two a lot, and now it's like their opening season 1189 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.119 three with it. And the biggest shame is that it's 1190 01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.199 Vincent Price more than anything else. Let's just get Vincent 1191 01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:19.400 Price to mug for thirty minutes. That's what this feels like. 1192 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.440 A lot of close up shots of Vincent Price mugging 1193 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:27.000 for the camera, which is fine, but that's there's not 1194 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:29.480 a story there per se. It's just a lot of 1195 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.880 I don't know, it's a lot of gothic looking settings 1196 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.199 and not a lot of story to go along with it. 1197 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.280 I think there are quite a lot of problems with 1198 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.679 this episode, and yet I fucking loved it. I really 1199 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.320 had a good time with it. Wow. Yeah, just beginning 1200 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:44.400 to end. I know this is a setup we've seen 1201 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.920 one billion times, but I think I think as Jean 1202 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.480 Swarz is doing fucking great work here for the opening shot, 1203 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:51.679 not the opening shop, but the first time he steps 1204 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.880 into that house. It's all drenched in red and Bixby 1205 01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.599 is framed in the jons of a crocodile that you 1206 01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.360 know he would have used a split diyopter if they 1207 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.280 could have afford. When Vincent Price mentions he was a twin, 1208 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.199 I was so excited. I was like, oh my god, 1209 01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.679 we're getting two prices for the price of one. This 1210 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.840 is going to be freaking fantastic. Fern is the female 1211 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:14.400 character in the Sterling character and when we meet her, 1212 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:18.320 she's wearing a thermal shirt with a star on it. 1213 01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.800 Right star is obviously added by wardrobe. It's a slate 1214 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:26.000 thermal shirt with a blue star, and I think it's 1215 01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:28.119 there to clue the audience into the fact that she 1216 01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.760 has more than a passing familiarity with magic. But it 1217 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.800 also kind of subtly clued me into that famous shot 1218 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.079 of Sharon Tate from Esquire magazine back in sixty seven. 1219 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.679 She's wearing a white shirt with a Red Star. It 1220 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:42.559 got talked about a lot a decade ago because on 1221 01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:46.199 mad Men, Megan Draper's character wore the same shirt as 1222 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.119 Sharon Tate and it was on purpose and people were 1223 01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:50.239 thinking she was going to be murdered. It turned out 1224 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.760 to be nothing. But it's probably a coincidence here. But 1225 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.239 I hope it's my design because they've inverted the Sharon 1226 01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:01.599 Tate shirt and that's but this is because we end 1227 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.440 up with this character doing the sacrificing. Anyway, that might 1228 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.559 be more ominous than the episode deserved. But it was 1229 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.360 on my mind the moment she opened the door. As 1230 01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.639 much as I am praising Geno or Jean Swark for 1231 01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:15.760 that opening scene, the second scene's fucking atrocious. The lighting 1232 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.280 is the most garish lighting I've seen on any episode 1233 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.599 of Night Gallery ever. It looked like the crew from 1234 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.039 The Price Is right lit the scene. You can see 1235 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:26.079 all the flaws in all of the set decoration behind 1236 01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:28.760 Bixby and Price. By the way, Bixby and Price is 1237 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:30.280 my ya detective novels. 1238 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:31.239 Oh I like that. 1239 01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:31.719 Yeah. 1240 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.400 I love a plot where there's an unseen force like 1241 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.480 slowly approaching, and they do that here with the sort 1242 01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.559 of sliding the scraping sound that's slowly approaching, which my 1243 01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:48.199 favorite thing is the Fern's character tries to explain it 1244 01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:51.039 away by saying it's just rats, as if that's preferable 1245 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:52.880 to whatever else is there. Oh, it's just a wall 1246 01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:56.599 full of rats. Bixby is hired to translate this book 1247 01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.760 and he has to do so in this main like 1248 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.920 sacrificial chamber on the altar with seven candles burned. Could 1249 01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:06.920 I take the book to my room? Would that be okay? 1250 01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:10.239 They explained that other translators have come and they've done 1251 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:13.320 the translation, and they've fled. To prevent that, Vincent Price 1252 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.800 has armed himself with a revolver. Right, there's going to 1253 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.119 make this guy speak the thing but. 1254 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:23.000 Makes sense. Yeah, but logically follows. You're a rich guy. 1255 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:24.079 You can get away with it, right. 1256 01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:25.800 Oh yeah, you could shoot somebody in the middle of 1257 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:27.199 Fifth Avenue. He'd get away with him. 1258 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.039 Wouldn't lose any you wouldn't lose any demons involved. 1259 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:33.760 Now there's magic involved here. But the thing is Bixby 1260 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:37.639 has written the translation down. I'm assuming the other translators 1261 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.920 did as well, unless they were keeping the entire quad 1262 01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.039 train or whatever the fuck it is in their heads, 1263 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:47.360 So why don't they just why doesn't he just say, 1264 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:52.679 hand me that and I'll read it. I don't okay anyway. 1265 01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.159 But that, But there's not an invocation if he just 1266 01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:58.360 hands them a telefax and goes read it, bub you know, 1267 01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:00.880 like that, there's there's none of there's none of the 1268 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.840 horseshit of Bill Bicks feeling. You know, I'm I'm confused 1269 01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:06.760 as to what's going on, and wait, what does it say? 1270 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:08.400 It's like, there's none of that. If he just goes here, 1271 01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:12.079 you go like, yeah, it's so a lot of this 1272 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:16.199 requires one party to know what's going on and the 1273 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.800 other to have literally no idea. It just normally isn't 1274 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:22.079 the audience. We're not normally supposed to be the ones 1275 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.719 that have no idea, That's true, It's supposed to be 1276 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:27.960 the characters. Like, yeah, the characters. I feel like the 1277 01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.559 characters know about more, what's more about what's going on 1278 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.920 than we do, and they never get that across to 1279 01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.159 the rest of us. There's a lack of exposition in 1280 01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:36.880 this episode. 1281 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.519 Shockingly, I like how specific the curse is, like it 1282 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:43.199 has a pre cursing the reader of it, and then 1283 01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.440 it has a clause that seems to relate directly to 1284 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.039 Price the situation. It's like he thinks he's scott free 1285 01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.760 until he reads the dismemberment conicil. You know, like, oh no, 1286 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.440 even if I cut him up. 1287 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:58.000 God damn and laid up play alive across hot coals 1288 01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:58.519 or something like that. 1289 01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:00.800 God, it goes hard. 1290 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.599 Yeah, I mean at the end of the scene before 1291 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.679 the brother shows up, Vincent Price goes catatonic and he's 1292 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:08.440 just sitting there, and all I thought was, like, what 1293 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.800 a wonderful piece of furniture. I'd love to have a 1294 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.800 Vincent Price in like the corner of the corner. 1295 01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:15.679 I think. 1296 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.960 My speaking of furniture, my favorite piece of furniture was 1297 01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.800 the hands with the candle sticking out. 1298 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:22.320 Of the walls. 1299 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:25.719 That was a nice piece of set dressing. Though though again, 1300 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.760 if they were trying to go for the interchamber of 1301 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.559 Anton Levy, I don't know how well they managed, because 1302 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:35.679 I'm sure his room was very red. But yeah, I 1303 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:37.920 don't know. It looks I like the main chamber, but 1304 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.599 it is a little on the nose. I feel like 1305 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.159 that felt a little wonka e to me, right, Like 1306 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:45.719 it's over the top. 1307 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:49.599 Here's the kids' version of Satanism maybe or as a 1308 01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:53.440 top maybe or any number of names we're gonna We're 1309 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.880 gonna speer out during the during this episode that when 1310 01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:59.679 Bixby and Fern first get together, now before we figure 1311 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.039 out what Fern's intentions are here, he says to her 1312 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.320 at the end of the scena, I depend on you 1313 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.599 as a friend. And I thought, like, are those words magic? 1314 01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.039 Because it's the easiest pickup line I've ever seen. She 1315 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.159 immediately like falls into his arms. I'm like, WHOA, Okay, 1316 01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.760 I guess friendship means a little something different in their house. 1317 01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:18.400 A friendship is magic. 1318 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.039 I can't not love this and recommend this segment this 1319 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.679 episode because it has one of my favorite exchanges in 1320 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:28.480 the entire exchange and transition in the series, where Bixby 1321 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:31.559 says what makes you think I'll stay and Vincent Price's 1322 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:33.519 dinner and then it cuts to a closeup of a 1323 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:37.559 black goat eating from a plate, sitting in a carved 1324 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.199 wooding chair at a table that wouldn't be out of 1325 01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:44.280 place at like Wayne manor Oh, by the way, Falling Tower, 1326 01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.719 I called it a goat, forgive me his name is 1327 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.519 Falling Tower. And he's Vincent Price's father. And then that's 1328 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:52.679 the last mention of that fact. 1329 01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:55.960 That's the best part of the entire episode is the 1330 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:59.960 goat eating at the table, Like that alone is a visual, 1331 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:04.800 you will, that's worth seeing, especially that transition, but it 1332 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:06.760 never lives up to the lofty goals of a goat 1333 01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:10.840 eating at the table, you know, the heights of a 1334 01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:15.840 goat consuming whatever, like fucking Risotto is never reached again. 1335 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.880 Evil Vincent Price shows up. Now they got to sacrifice good, 1336 01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.960 Vincent Price, good being a relative term. And I noticed 1337 01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:24.159 that they cut to an above shot of the altar, 1338 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:27.359 and there's a disco floor. The altar had a disco 1339 01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.439 floor underneath it, lights and red and blue and yellow 1340 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.840 just flashing away like wow, some nights at a disco, 1341 01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:37.399 Some nights sacrificial chamber. If Vincent Price knew Fern was 1342 01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:39.800 the culprit, knew she was pulling the strings, what was 1343 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:43.359 all this charade about? That's the confusion, Mike, Like the 1344 01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:46.159 power ends up being like, what is happening here? And 1345 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.079 here's a fun fact. If you read the original short story, 1346 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:50.199 Fern isn't in it? 1347 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:50.920 Oh really? 1348 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.319 And the Vincent Price character and then the Vincent Price 1349 01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:57.000 brother shows up and then that's it. You don't suppose 1350 01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.600 there's anything in that preamble about the reader dismembered. You 1351 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.079 don't think there's anything to that, do you? No, Bill, 1352 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:05.079 You're going to be fine with her. 1353 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:09.520 Hey, she knows that that actress knows how to hold 1354 01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.760 a frog though, or toad. I guess walking around with 1355 01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:15.039 that toad in her hand that whole scene. 1356 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:17.640 Last season we had Richard Thomas, and I mentioned like 1357 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.720 I couldn't tell if he was giving a good performance 1358 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:21.239 or not. I feel the same way about her. 1359 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.199 She reminded me a lot of Life Dianner for some reason, 1360 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:26.720 while she was talking. 1361 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:31.000 Like facially and that sort of that yeah, that airy demeanor. 1362 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:33.720 But I couldn't Sometimes I thought she was really good, 1363 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.520 and then sometimes I was like, God, she's awful. 1364 01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.119 I mean, yeah, I can't imagine how much they spent 1365 01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:39.680 on candles for this episode. 1366 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:41.520 Where's any of this money coming from? 1367 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.800 I got well, I was going to say they spent 1368 01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.640 all the money on candles, that they didn't spend on 1369 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.720 the sound effects because no owls and hooting, no were 1370 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.920 wolves know nothing in this episode. Lack of fun sound 1371 01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:54.600 effects even they weren't. 1372 01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:57.000 He did get Castle Thunder briefly at the beginning. 1373 01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:58.439 Oh right, once. 1374 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.840 That's just because that's a Union thing. Castle Thunder has 1375 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:02.760 to appear at these once. 1376 01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:04.800 I was just waiting for like a hooting owl or 1377 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.479 something just in the background incessantly, because you know the 1378 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:08.680 show likes to do that too. 1379 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.840 So we did get that scraping slurpity. I'm coming to 1380 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.680 get you. My feet and hand are coming to get you. 1381 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.239 That was a good effect. By the way, those the 1382 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:18.840 dismembered hands, and they. 1383 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.399 Looked pretty good, like crawling and stuff. 1384 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:23.239 It looked great. The foot looked fantastic. 1385 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.079 And when he's there at the end and apparently the 1386 01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.760 dismembered head is now back attached to the body and 1387 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.319 his face is all like corpse like, I thought that 1388 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:36.680 looked really good. I thought it's a Vincent Price. He 1389 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.640 knows how to hold his head and all that to 1390 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:41.159 really up the creep factor. 1391 01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:43.359 To me, this is a redemption for Vincent Price, because 1392 01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:45.039 the last time we saw him was in that Class 1393 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:47.880 of ninety nine episode where he was just a moderator 1394 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:49.159 for the robots. 1395 01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.359 Yeah, it was a waste of Vincent Price. I liked 1396 01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:58.039 that story. Like, thinking back about it. But yeah, yeah, 1397 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.720 why him, of all the people to have in that episode, 1398 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:02.720 why Vincent Price. 1399 01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:05.560 I think that was a studio thing where they were 1400 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.119 really pushing the guest stars for that the only thing 1401 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.319 they could think to help the show that they did 1402 01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:11.439 never understood to begin with. 1403 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:13.600 Toe out of the three here are pretty big stars. 1404 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.520 I mean, Bill Becksy and Vincent Price. So yeah, starting 1405 01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:18.520 out the third season at least in terms of like 1406 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:20.680 visibility of who it is pretty strong. 1407 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:26.800 So our artists and artisans take a rather pardonable pride 1408 01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:28.439 in their work that you see hanging here. 1409 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.279 An example is this item here. 1410 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:36.399 It's called Rare Objects and represents that potpourri of collector's 1411 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:40.000 items that some men are prone to acquire. But there 1412 01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:42.720 are collectors' items and collector's. 1413 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.960 Items, aliver, do you know? An excursion into the very 1414 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:48.279 strange Tonight's offering in the Night Gallery. 1415 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:53.680 Rare Objects is from season three, episode three. It aired 1416 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.359 on October the twenty second, nineteen seventy two. This was 1417 01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.239 written by Ron Serling and directed by Jean Zoik, starring 1418 01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:06.079 Mickey Rooney, Raymond Massey, Fay Spain, David Fresco, Victor Senjung. 1419 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.079 He was hop Sing on Bonanza, but they've reduced him 1420 01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.960 to a virtually non speaking servant role here. Also Regis Kordick. 1421 01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:17.760 He was doctor Peel in Primal Scream Night Stalker season two, guys, 1422 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.479 and he's in two of episodes of Colombo. And he's 1423 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:23.479 in two of my favorite episodes of the Monkeys Christmas 1424 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.359 episode and fairy Tale. This one's about a gangster on 1425 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:28.960 the Lamb seeking asylum with a man with a pension 1426 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:33.479 for collecting interesting people or not so interesting. What do 1427 01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:34.159 you think, Chris? 1428 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:42.079 It is so goofy and the reveal is so oh 1429 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:46.000 my god. You know when they start going down the 1430 01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:48.319 list of people and the first one that they start 1431 01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:51.039 with is, hey, look they come out swinging. They don't 1432 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:54.319 have Hitler immediately, but they have anastasias, so you know 1433 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:57.000 where this is going. And then it's Judge Crater and 1434 01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.279 stuff like this story is. It is a black out 1435 01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:05.039 sketch once again played for a thirty minute episode, and 1436 01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:08.159 it could have been. This is almost in a lot 1437 01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:11.439 of ways, the essentially a different version of what was 1438 01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:14.680 the one with the not Kevin Spacey, Bobby Darren and 1439 01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.319 the old man from will Wana Boy. Yeah, Jack Albert Simley, 1440 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:20.720 is that not this? But just oh, here's another iteration. 1441 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.439 Instead of him being turned into dog food, he's just 1442 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.079 kept in a cage somewhere. It's that, it's that and that, 1443 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.279 And I think we all agreed dead Weight was a 1444 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:32.119 blackout sketch, and I think that this is a blackout sketch. 1445 01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:34.600 I do think the I've Got a Hitler thing is 1446 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:39.640 pretty funny, but it was bizarre through and through. But hey, 1447 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.359 Mickey Rooney sure knows how to disgustingly eat a plate 1448 01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:47.079 apasta just like a real fucking just ugh. 1449 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.680 Who ever thought that Mickey Rooney could play a tough 1450 01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:55.119 guy that? I just don't understand that at all. 1451 01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.479 Wait, wait a second. It's the same people who asked, 1452 01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:01.479 could man play Japanese? 1453 01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:05.720 Oh Man, oh Man. I just the whole time. I 1454 01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.479 was just like, he's a gangster. He's supposed to be 1455 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:09.560 a gangster. 1456 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:12.359 That's what he always wanted to be my whole life. 1457 01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.199 I wrote in my notes, I love tough guy Rooney. 1458 01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.239 He's four foot nothing with a marble bar between him 1459 01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.720 and a six foot guy who looks like he could 1460 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.600 tear him apart. Later on, where with him and his 1461 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:26.760 gangster mall and I thought she could tear him apart. 1462 01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:31.520 Yeah, yeah, Dwayne Grey, Oh okay, write that post off 1463 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:32.279 your face first. 1464 01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:34.840 It was a rough This was a rough one. I mean, 1465 01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:37.880 I love Raymond Massey, but I think I was better 1466 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.359 off with Raymond Massey the last time he was on 1467 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:40.920 the show. 1468 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.640 He was more appropriate in that one. Speaking of the 1469 01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.680 last one, it's the same set. He's in the same house. 1470 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:47.000 Wow. 1471 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:49.720 I was about to ask because it looked like and 1472 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:51.960 I was like, man, it's too bad they didn't show 1473 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:53.960 the top of the mantle and his head was there, 1474 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.039 Like that'd be a little weird. What's the continuity of 1475 01:14:57.079 --> 01:14:57.399 that one? 1476 01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.079 That would have been great, Actually, that would have been fantastic. Yeah, 1477 01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.479 nobody needs to see Mickey Rooney's mouth close up with 1478 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.399 sloppy Feticini. Oh my god. Also Fetuccini in a red 1479 01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:10.920 sauce chick his papers. 1480 01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.039 Wait a second, you're saying the si of thing. 1481 01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:17.800 It shouldn't be no joke by the way. Okay, his 1482 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:22.239 name's Collodney and he's played by a tiny irishman, but 1483 01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:25.800 he's clearly Italian. He's eating pasta in an Italian restaurant. 1484 01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:29.319 His right hand man is named Tony He's clearly supposed 1485 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:32.600 to be Capone or somebody like Capone, But why wouldn't 1486 01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:34.960 they just lean into the irishness of him, Like there 1487 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.439 aren't any Irish gangsters. I'll name some Dean O'Banion, bugs, 1488 01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:43.720 Moran Onny Madden, come on man, Buddy McClean, Mickey Mean 1489 01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:47.039 Machine Murphy. He was a Boston Weddy Bulcher. Yeah, there 1490 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:49.520 you go, there's a Boston boys. How about Sean Irish 1491 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:52.880 carbon McKenna. That to me was a mess in the episode. 1492 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:56.000 Either just make him straight Italian or make him Irish. 1493 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.720 I don't know why this interim Collodney. It feels like 1494 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.720 the stuff that certainly used to come plain about when 1495 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.680 he was writing for like Playhouse whatever. Oh, they made 1496 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:08.079 me change the character's ethnicity, so that wouldn't offend anybody. 1497 01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.640 But that's what he's doing here. Okay, was this the fifties. 1498 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.079 I'm guessing it's the nineteen fifties. Oh until there was 1499 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.720 a wah wah guitar and synth playing, so then I 1500 01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.319 assumed we're in the seventies. But then Mickey Rooney gets 1501 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.880 in a Model t Ford, so now I guess it's 1502 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:25.399 the thirties. But then Hitler so forty six afterwards, I 1503 01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:29.199 don't know, this was the weirdest time episode of all 1504 01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:31.159 time and I have no idea whatever we were in. 1505 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:33.159 I was disappointed that at the end it wasn't like 1506 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.079 d D begin and then there's an alien. There's just 1507 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.720 an alien. So that's what That's what I wanted. I 1508 01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.600 wanted to fully just embrace the dumb because this is 1509 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:47.000 like the reveal in this episode is a really like 1510 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.720 just again at some dumb sounds derrogatory, but it is 1511 01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:55.319 very not well thought out. It makes very little sense, 1512 01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:58.479 like it is a gag. It is a visual gag 1513 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.279 that once you start thinking about logistically, it makes no sense. 1514 01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:05.359 But it's not being played purely as a visual gag, 1515 01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:07.840 like this is the climax of the episode. This is 1516 01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:10.279 how the episode ends. We are led to believe the 1517 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.800 episode wraps up with him being placed in a cell 1518 01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:17.399 the end, like it's I laughed. I thought it was funny, 1519 01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:19.279 But I'm not going to sit here and defend it 1520 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:22.600 his quality, like I can appreciate for something for how 1521 01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:26.159 absolutely just ridiculous it is, which I think this episode 1522 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.439 is is firmly in that camp. 1523 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.640 I think I could have enjoyed this one if it 1524 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.359 were a blackout skit, but it just takes so long 1525 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.720 to get there, and Raymond Massey just chewing it up everybody. 1526 01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.600 Rooney and Massy are both chewing up the scenery, but 1527 01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.880 it takes Massy a long time to get where he's 1528 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:51.319 going with his soliloquy. And I can only think that 1529 01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:53.920 that's thanks to Rod where it's just like, oh cool, 1530 01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:56.079 I get to write for this guy, and I'm just 1531 01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:58.560 gonna write overwrite it. 1532 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:03.680 So much, overwrites something I know. Evan for fenned Ron 1533 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:05.920 for some reason, designs that we need to know how 1534 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.520 he's keeping these people here, that there's a wonder drug 1535 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.800 involved that makes them docile and also gives them longevity. 1536 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.800 So he's going to be yeah forever, Okay if we 1537 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:18.880 didn't need it, because you mentioned the episode dead Weight 1538 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:22.960 with Bobby Darren and Jack Albertson, and while we were 1539 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:25.920 watching that episode, I think we all theorized that it 1540 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.520 was going to go to some weird supernatural place, like 1541 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.960 all of the potential lame avenues that that episode could 1542 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.279 have gone in this one did. Yes, he's going to 1543 01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:36.680 hold him and keep him prisoner forever and there's going 1544 01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:40.439 to be some so bad and then oh, let me 1545 01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:42.680 say this. I mentioned I would start doing this hooray 1546 01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:45.199 for day for night. It looks so good, looks so 1547 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:48.840 fantastic in this episode. Congratulations yet again, night Gallory for 1548 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:53.399 a glorious day for Night. The other thing I want 1549 01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:56.079 to say is they feature it a lot. Mickey Vernie's 1550 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:59.479 trembling lower lip. All I could think every time he 1551 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:02.880 did it was some studio handler not beating him on 1552 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.439 the day that he was able to do that, where 1553 01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:08.479 they instructed him that he needed to look scared. It 1554 01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:11.560 just it was such a roade thing like, oh, I'm 1555 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:13.720 scared now I will do the lower lip thing that 1556 01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:15.720 they taught me or they beat into me when I 1557 01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.960 was a child. I know that's terrible, but kept thinking 1558 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:19.279 about it. 1559 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:21.479 The question that I have is what does one do 1560 01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:23.840 with a Hitler? Yeah, what does one do with an 1561 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:25.880 Amelia Earhart or a Judge creator? 1562 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:26.039 What? 1563 01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:28.520 You just have them in a cell and they just 1564 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:32.439 sit there like it's again like the stakes of the episode. 1565 01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:34.560 All of a sudden, Yeah, like you mentioned, they go 1566 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.720 from feeling realistic too, and then there's a door that 1567 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:39.199 opens and Hitler's there. 1568 01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:42.680 And It's very similar to that Star Trek episode, well 1569 01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.359 many Star Trek episodes, but especially that one with Saul 1570 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:49.239 Rubinstein where he is kidnapps data and hashim there he 1571 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:50.960 wants these unique items. 1572 01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:53.319 Oh, he's the collector from Marvel. 1573 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:58.319 Yeah, exactly, so rold Emondson, Sure, yeah, why not? I 1574 01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:00.680 love Norwegian Polar Explorers. 1575 01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:03.600 Let's get this guy in here, Judge greater of great 1576 01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:06.039 they are just a couple of years away from Haffa. 1577 01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:09.800 That's the one that we don't have here. But yeah, again, 1578 01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:13.159 like the logistics and everything aside, like the twist is 1579 01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:17.800 just okay, and his explanation is just very strange. And 1580 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:21.600 for all the posturing that he does essentially before we 1581 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:23.600 find out what the reveal is, for that to be 1582 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.840 the reveal, it's like and that's what all the posturing 1583 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.560 was for Hitler in a cage like okay. 1584 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:33.399 Also, it's Amelia Earhart and Anastasia and blah blah blah 1585 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.800 blah blah and Kalodney and Hitler. 1586 01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:40.680 Colodney and Hitler are of this. It's the way that 1587 01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:41.479 they ate Pasta. 1588 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.479 Just make it about al Capone. This is what an 1589 01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:45.239 al capone. 1590 01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:49.399 Everybody, thank you for Haffa again like or Haffa, Like, 1591 01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:51.960 that's what I equated this too, but they hadn't gotten 1592 01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:55.279 there yet. And again, this dude was just some schmuck criminal. 1593 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:58.399 He wasn't anything like right, Oh, but. 1594 01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.960 I think you under sell yourself well, sir, I think 1595 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:03.000 you are much more than just that. 1596 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:06.039 Yeah, I would say Bobby Darren was worth more of 1597 01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:09.239 a rare object worth keeping because he killed kids and 1598 01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.479 that it said it was okay. Most gangsters aren't okay 1599 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.760 with that. He was a real scumbag gangster. This guy's 1600 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:15.640 just you know, this. 1601 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.319 Guy's a loser obviously, like guys want. 1602 01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.439 To kill him, like his own people want to kill him. 1603 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:25.680 I don't understand you're not good at the job, sir. 1604 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:29.239 You're going into hiding because you're a bad gangster. It's 1605 01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:32.159 a just the conceit of the episode is bizarre. And 1606 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:34.079 then yeah, it feels like it's a joke because it's 1607 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:34.720 Mickey Rooney. 1608 01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:36.720 Oh you know, when he paints the waiter, he pulls 1609 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:39.479 out this huge wad of cash. I am one hundred 1610 01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.520 percent convinced that that's actually was just Mickey Roney's wad 1611 01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:46.560 of cash. He's renowned first walking with a wad big 1612 01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:47.560 enough to choke a horse. 1613 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:51.560 Wow, I forgot that Rooney played a gangster once before. 1614 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:55.159 At least he was a blue Chips packer and Scud 1615 01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:58.079 Do the classic Auto premature. 1616 01:21:57.720 --> 01:21:59.880 Film, a movie I have never gotten through. 1617 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.560 Oh boy, Yeah it's tough, and yeah I think he 1618 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:07.640 does acid with Jackie Gleason and Jail. 1619 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:10.199 See that makes me want to watch it. And I'm 1620 01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:12.319 gonna get fucking twenty minutes into it again and I'm 1621 01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.399 just gonna go, what am I doing? Don't do it. 1622 01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.039 It's not worth it. It's not worth it. 1623 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:17.760 Maybe there's a clip on YouTube. 1624 01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.359 At least Mickey Rooney wasn't doing yellow face. At least 1625 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:21.760 there's that. 1626 01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.600 Thank Heavens for small favors. Aha, make a very tiny. 1627 01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.800 This item here a commentative on what aj Leebling referred 1628 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.279 to as the sweet science, obviously having something to do 1629 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:37.720 with the manly art of self defense boxing. But if 1630 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:41.159 the Marcus of Queensburry Mayhem doesn't particularly turn you on, 1631 01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:43.000 don't turn this off. 1632 01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:47.000 This painting tells the story infinitely more intriguing than a 1633 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:48.760 couple of fast boys mixing it up. 1634 01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:53.159 It's called the Ring with the Red Velvet ropes, and 1635 01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:56.279 it tells you the tale of precisely who is the real. 1636 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:59.359 Heavyweight boxing champion of the world. And I think you'll 1637 01:22:59.359 --> 01:22:59.920 be surprised. 1638 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:04.319 Surprised it happens to be our stocking trade because this 1639 01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:06.520 is the night Gallery. 1640 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.880 All right, ring with the red velvet ropes. It is 1641 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:13.279 season three, episode ten, originally aired on January the seventh, 1642 01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.880 nineteen seventy three. This one was written by Robert Malcolm 1643 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.239 Young from a short story by Edward D. Hawk and 1644 01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:23.159 directed by Jean Zwark. This one stars Gary Lockwood, Chuck Conners, 1645 01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:27.439 Joan van Ark, and Ralph Manza playing Gary Lockwood's manager. 1646 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:30.359 In the opening scene for once, he's not playing a 1647 01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:33.760 show for. He is Banichik's major domo in the entirety 1648 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.600 of the of that series, and every other time I've 1649 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:38.680 seen him pop up on a show, he's played a 1650 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:39.039 show for. 1651 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:41.680 You're not watching enough, Barney Miller, Baby, he plays a 1652 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:45.039 blind guy most of the time, or someone who doesn't 1653 01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:48.479 understand a lick of English, or my favorite Ralph mans 1654 01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:51.800 Roll nineteen ninety nine Fishermen running Away from Godzilla on 1655 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:54.439 the Pier, which is my favorite Ralph Manze. 1656 01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.079 Now I'm gonna have to look that up. 1657 01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:56.560 Geez. 1658 01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:59.960 That's from the trailer where like Godzilla's coming through the wall. 1659 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:03.880 The person who's fishing is Ralph Mannish. Yeah, there's like 1660 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.079 an older guy fishing at the end of the year. 1661 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:10.680 That's Ralph Manze. Wow, you're welcome world and Ralph Manze, 1662 01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:12.359 who I think passed long past time. 1663 01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:14.880 This one is about a boxing champ who learns hees 1664 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:18.359 not the champ. Maybe supernatural could be. I don't know, 1665 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:19.239 what do you think, Chris. 1666 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:23.279 I like this idea, but we've seen it better when 1667 01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.600 we did Dreams for Sale, we did in that pool 1668 01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:29.720 episode or was this no? Was this show? Oh, we've 1669 01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.039 done it. Every time we've done an anthology show, there's 1670 01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:35.560 one of these kinds of things where it's you're fighting 1671 01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:40.239 the opportunity, and most of the time the setup makes 1672 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:43.560 more sense. The setup here doesn't make any fucking sense 1673 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:48.319 at all. Normally it's you're dead and you're going to 1674 01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.159 face the person and you get something out of it, 1675 01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:53.760 or you're alive and you're facing the person and you 1676 01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.840 end up being damned because of it. I like the setup, 1677 01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.720 but boy, it's like they jumped from the ground onto 1678 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:02.520 the pond and then broke their back immediately. I just 1679 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:06.279 do not understand how they fucked up. What is again, 1680 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:11.840 in my opinion, an easy concept. The ex champion is 1681 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:15.880 facing the current people, but he's dead or I don't 1682 01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:17.760 even know. They don't even seem to know here, so 1683 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:22.079 it's rather unintelligible. But it's at least again an idea 1684 01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:24.159 that I can understand where they were going with this, 1685 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:26.079 but they really fucked it up. 1686 01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:28.720 I think you're thinking of Game of Pool over on 1687 01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:32.199 the Twilight Zone, the same setup. I'm the champ, all 1688 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:34.319 the spectral champ to come play me in a game 1689 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:35.439 of Pool anyway, Mike. 1690 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:39.399 Good makeup effects. I really like the effects on these 1691 01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:42.560 guys's faces when they get the shit kicked out of them. 1692 01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:46.880 That's pretty good, especially the African American gentleman who visits 1693 01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:50.920 him as a I guess a specter after he beats 1694 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:51.800 them at boxing. 1695 01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:54.520 But they too. Kombuka. 1696 01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.960 Yes, and I did watch an interview with him earlier 1697 01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:01.560 today which was very interesting. Yeah, he has been in 1698 01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:04.039 a bunch of stuff that I really like, and it 1699 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:05.760 was great seeing him show up, but he was in 1700 01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:09.920 here for so short and then Gary Lockwood, I'm pretty 1701 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:12.079 unfamiliar with him other than I want to say he 1702 01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:14.439 was in a Jacques de Mei film of course, two 1703 01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:18.239 thousand and one, a Space Odyssey. He looks so shaggy here, 1704 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:22.960 it's kind of wild. He almost was unrecognizable because I 1705 01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:27.239 used to seeing him with the tighter haircut. Chuck Connors 1706 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.880 always amazing. But yeah, I also don't really understand everything 1707 01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:34.760 that's going on. I'm so surprised that Rod didn't write 1708 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:38.920 this screenplay because I know he likes boxing. So it 1709 01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:42.039 reminded me too of what was that called the was 1710 01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:43.840 it the Way of the Gun or The Day of 1711 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.760 the Gun? The Star Trek episode where they ran out 1712 01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.840 of money so they were using like big like colors 1713 01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:55.800 behind them and things. That's very similar to this boxing 1714 01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:56.640 ring at the end. 1715 01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.840 I actually expected Frank Driven to walk in at the 1716 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.600 beginning of the episode because it looked like that same 1717 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:07.640 boxing sete from one of those police squad no before 1718 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:12.880 the fight. Yeah, it was that was universal too as well, 1719 01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:15.880 So there's a distinct possibility that could be the case. 1720 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:17.840 But you know, we kind of mentioned it on the 1721 01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:19.960 last episode. I want to mention it here. The set 1722 01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:22.680 design we can commented every now and then, but not often. 1723 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.760 Set design is in these two episodes is fantastic, like 1724 01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:29.800 genuinely feels like they went out of their way to 1725 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:33.039 do something different. Story doesn't live up though. 1726 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.640 Oh I disagree. I fucking loved this one. 1727 01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:40.159 I feel that it would have been really good if 1728 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.399 it was a lot shorter. I think half an hour 1729 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.159 was way too much for this. I like the idea 1730 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.960 of I guess it's the very first. It feels like 1731 01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:54.119 the very first champ is still kind of boxing. It 1732 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:59.880 feels like after Garia Lockwood, after somebody else becomes the Champ, 1733 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:02.239 Gary Lockwood's going to have to face him and then 1734 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.279 he'll die in the ring or something. I'm not exactly 1735 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:08.039 sure what's going on. So, Father Malone, since you do 1736 01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.399 like this one a little bit more than us, what 1737 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:11.479 is going on with that? 1738 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.000 Okay, it is exactly that it's now he's no longer 1739 01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:19.760 he's some supernatural being at this point who has to 1740 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:22.920 be the champ, and he will be the champ until 1741 01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:25.359 he loses, and then he will die because he will 1742 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:28.279 have aged however, you know, however long So it's not 1743 01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:30.960 necessarily that he was beaten and Chuck Hunters was beaten 1744 01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:33.199 to death. It was that he was beaten. They could 1745 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.760 have been a little bit more clear, certainly about what 1746 01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.680 was actually happening here at the end. Nevertheless, there was 1747 01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.359 a lot that I liked about it. I liked that 1748 01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:45.159 teleportation shower he got into with this game, Oh my god. 1749 01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:47.000 And then when he stepped out for a moment, I 1750 01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:50.239 was like, wait, is this a time travel episode? It 1751 01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:54.600 was like a throwback, or is he changed bodies with somebody. 1752 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:55.680 He's in for say? 1753 01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:56.520 Is what it looks like? 1754 01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:01.560 It's a very It's strange and unexplained. 1755 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.079 Literally, never thought he was going to visit Dave Bowman 1756 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:05.920 in the two thousand. 1757 01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.880 And one, you know, Lockwood. I agree. I don't think 1758 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:09.800 I've seen him this shaggy, but I liked it, and 1759 01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.000 I liked him here. I thought he was really great. 1760 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:15.680 I thought he was so good because when he finds 1761 01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:18.079 himself suddenly trapped in this mansion and he knows he 1762 01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:22.239 can't get out, he gets rather amused by the whole thing, 1763 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:24.680 Whereas I think any one of us would have started 1764 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.399 punching everybody out and trying to knock down doors. And 1765 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.840 I believed it. I think he carried that off. I 1766 01:29:32.039 --> 01:29:33.960 like that this season, We've had a lot of we're 1767 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:37.319 waiting for characters to arrive. Roderick is coming. I remember 1768 01:29:37.399 --> 01:29:40.039 they had that kid with the horrible haircut coming to 1769 01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:42.600 kill Ross Martin, like he's on his way. Oh yeah, 1770 01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:44.960 and then the Sorcerer of the same thing. I hear 1771 01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:47.159 my brother, my brother is coming. This is a year 1772 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:52.520 for a watch out. I love that crazy highlight Chuck 1773 01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:55.840 Connors gets right before we go out to that weirdo room. 1774 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:58.800 Was that a room where the statue is with the 1775 01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:01.239 ring of fire on the ground, And speaking of rings 1776 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:03.640 of fire? Why didn't they box in a ring of fire? 1777 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:05.880 But anyway back to the other thing. Was that an 1778 01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:08.760 outside area or was that in the house? 1779 01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:11.600 Yeah? When that ring of fire started, I was like, ooh, 1780 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:16.039 this is the boxing ring. Oh cool, that'll be awesome. 1781 01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:21.319 No, I don't want no. Unfortunately sad where they box 1782 01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:23.640 is pretty good though that it is true. I do 1783 01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:24.079 like that. 1784 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.199 And there's a great shot of like Chuck Connors staring 1785 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:31.399 down and he just looks proper fucking menacing. I mean, 1786 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.439 having spent a fair amount of time watching that Werewolf 1787 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:37.479 TV show that featured Chuck Connors where he has to 1788 01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.239 be menacing for like the two episodes he's in, but 1789 01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:42.520 then his body doubles in the rest. He's great. I 1790 01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:45.119 loved him here. I don't not sure if I believe 1791 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:48.560 Gary Lockwood could actually beat a big dude got Chuck 1792 01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:54.680 Connors looks gigantic next to Gary Lockwood. He's fucking gigantic 1793 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:56.840 as a human being, obviously, but Gary lock would obviously. 1794 01:30:56.920 --> 01:30:59.359 The disparity in height between the two is a parent 1795 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.560 When you kind of get those wide shots of the ring, well. 1796 01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:04.479 You see him standing next to Joan van Ark when 1797 01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:07.600 he walks into the scene, he's like twice her size. 1798 01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:09.079 She's like at his past. 1799 01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.239 I was like, Gary Luckwood is dead. 1800 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:13.880 I don't know, but I do like how his makeup 1801 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:15.720 starts out really good and then he starts looking more 1802 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.720 and more Neanderthal. As the match goes on, he gets 1803 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:22.279 a little Neanderthaly right at a little too much on 1804 01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:25.319 the upper brow. I like the idea of the story, 1805 01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:28.039 and just I wish I understood the steaks. 1806 01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:30.880 Yeah. The thing is, I love a setup where he 1807 01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:33.800 sees a ghost and it's because that person has just 1808 01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.840 died in another location and they're appearing to them. That's 1809 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:43.600 such a great setup. And when Kombuka appears and it's 1810 01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.960 really accusatory. It seems like the champ has been up 1811 01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:50.439 to no good or something and like, I know from 1812 01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.119 beyond the grave what you've done. 1813 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:56.600 In fact, it was a warning, which is what I 1814 01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.000 don't get. And did he have a fucking aneurysm in 1815 01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:01.920 the shower? And dug why And that's what's going on here. 1816 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.399 I need. I would like just a little clarification as 1817 01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:08.279 to why this is happening, other than the fact that 1818 01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.760 does everybody who becomes the champion have to go fight 1819 01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:12.159 this guy? 1820 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:15.560 So then there's this moral conundrum. You are the champ, right, 1821 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.199 nobody can beat you. The only way you can continue 1822 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.520 to live is to throw a fight and then go 1823 01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:23.000 on living a lie that you're the champ. Meanwhile, the 1824 01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:26.720 guy you're fighting probably can't beat you. It's actually a 1825 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:27.880 really great setup. 1826 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:30.680 I'd be curious to read the short story for this one. 1827 01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:34.399 Yeah I did not, but yeah, it bears investigating red 1828 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.680 velvet ropes, red velvet ring, red velvet everything there in 1829 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.279 the last scene. My god, even Chuck Connors is red 1830 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.079 velvet draped. It's the good stuff. I like the warped 1831 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:46.600 bell for the round changes, the sort of slightly off 1832 01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:51.840 kilter bell. There is one fucking spectacular transition Jean Zoark, 1833 01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:55.239 I love You, where it's Chuck Connor's training and he's 1834 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.239 boxing and it's just his silhouette and the whole thing 1835 01:32:57.439 --> 01:32:59.479 washes out red and then we zoom in on the 1836 01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:02.720 speed bag a silhouette, and then now we're in the 1837 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:05.359 into the actual match at the end. I love that. 1838 01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:07.920 Anything else that I love, I don't know. I just 1839 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.439 really enjoyed this one. I know it wasn't as it 1840 01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:13.760 wasn't enough explanation as to what was going on, But 1841 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:15.640 for this one, I was able to fill in enough 1842 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.319 myself where it didn't feel like I was it was 1843 01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:18.760 a cheat. 1844 01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:22.800 I get. I understand that. I genuinely just it wasn't 1845 01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:25.079 explanation as much as I think the episode needed a 1846 01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:29.960 clearer direction of where it was going because at the end, yes, 1847 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.560 I understand the conundrum that he's in, but does her. 1848 01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.720 Yeah, there needs to be that conversation maybe. 1849 01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.520 Right like do you understand what's about to happen here? 1850 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:39.880 Dude? 1851 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:42.960 Like, well, no, because he's such a bulldog. He's just like, 1852 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.039 I'm not throwing I've never thrown a fight. I don't care. 1853 01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:46.600 I'm just going to go in and box that guy. 1854 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:48.560 And then he does, and he wins, and he doesn't 1855 01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:50.399 seem that upset about it, honestly. 1856 01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.079 No, and I don't. Are we supposed to root against 1857 01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:56.279 his characters? That's what I didn't understand, Like we're. 1858 01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:57.760 Rooting for him to win, and he does, but it 1859 01:33:57.920 --> 01:33:59.000 comes with a price. 1860 01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:02.039 Yelling at the guys like why didn't you stop the fight? 1861 01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:03.960 When did you stop the fight? I'm like, you could 1862 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:05.840 have stopped beating up on the guy too. 1863 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:11.800 Yeah. Here the wait staff as audience but central casting. 1864 01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:15.000 Here's the chef, here's the chauffeur, here's the maid. They're 1865 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:18.119 all just watching the match. What like, what's their story? 1866 01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:20.720 How are they so condemned to eternity that they have 1867 01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:22.920 to wait on the fake chat? 1868 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:23.399 Yeah? 1869 01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:25.800 Again, I'd love to know more of this stuff. 1870 01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.199 Yeah, it's interesting, Like, there's a lot of interesting stuff 1871 01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:32.359 going on here that just is not Again, it's not 1872 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:34.439 that it's not explained, it's it's not even hinted at. 1873 01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:38.239 What's going on? This could this Once he transitions from 1874 01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:41.520 the shower to the villa or whatever it is, it's 1875 01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:43.199 like he just goes from a real place to a 1876 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:46.439 set is what it feels like. He's removed from everything 1877 01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:49.399 and it feels like on reality and they never explain 1878 01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:53.640 what it is. So I have no fucking clue where 1879 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.039 anything takes place. Beyond the beginning of. 1880 01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:58.399 The episode, he has a lot of conversations with Joan 1881 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.399 van Ark and one of them might have been what 1882 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:01.520 is this place? Right? 1883 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:04.880 Right? That would be a first fucking question, like why 1884 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:07.960 can't I use the phone? Why can't I leave? Are 1885 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.000 people looking for me? Did? I just dislike? That's the 1886 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:13.640 other question. If all these champions are going and fighting, 1887 01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:16.600 this guy or this champions just must be disappearing, like 1888 01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.399 just it's yeah, it's a strange setup. I do like 1889 01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:23.399 the guy that they got to play dead Old Chuck Connors, though, 1890 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:28.680 slam that fucker with some pancake makeer. He's a white. 1891 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:31.520 That was another man, right, That was not Chuck Connors himself. 1892 01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:32.960 That was no. 1893 01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:35.640 I would assume it was someone else entirely. 1894 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:37.479 I think he would have been gone back to Jack 1895 01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:42.640 Johnson Days or something, the Marquis of Queens Bear, Queensberry 1896 01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:43.359 or whatever that is. 1897 01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:45.960 And you can tell it's not written by Rod because 1898 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.680 it doesn't have some sort of like tongue clucking morality 1899 01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.199 horseshit that he likes to do. He would have had 1900 01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:54.359 that scene where he's like, oh, you know, you should 1901 01:35:54.439 --> 01:35:58.079 know better. You don't do it, you know better. There's 1902 01:35:58.119 --> 01:35:59.079 none of that, so it's not. 1903 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:01.520 Written by Rod. That's the price you get with the 1904 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.760 over explanation. Rod also would have told you exactly what 1905 01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.880 that place was, right, everyone's motivations were, but it comes 1906 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:10.680 with everything else. 1907 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:14.920 Whisper strips of ethereal night clouds are seen from the 1908 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:18.159 vantage point of a square, a group of tombstones, and 1909 01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:22.319 the face of a neutral onlooker who surveys the silence, well, 1910 01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:25.560 perhaps not quite total silence, because the name of our 1911 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:28.800 painting is Whisper, and it tells the story of one 1912 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:30.560 body inhabited by two people. 1913 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.279 And at a point, as you can well imagine, this 1914 01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.239 gets crowded. And if this one doesn't ice up. 1915 01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:39.079 The old spine, we'll send you one of our official 1916 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.199 apologies along with the body. 1917 01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:45.000 That's the kind of guarantee you get in the night Gallery. 1918 01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.720 This is season three, episode thirteen. It aired on May thirteenth, 1919 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:51.960 nineteen seventy three. The previous episode aired in March. They 1920 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:54.600 skipped the entire month of April. I wonder why that is, 1921 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.880 because they couldn't handle the awesomeness of April of nineteen 1922 01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:02.159 seventy three Anyway by David Orrayfield from a short story 1923 01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:06.560 by Martin Waddell, directed by Jean Zuark. It stars Tony Hey, 1924 01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:12.600 Tony no Phony, Baloney, Tony the Tiger, LaRusso, Dean Stockwell, 1925 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.800 Ladies and Gentlemen, also Sally Field. It is about it. 1926 01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:18.079 It is the story of a young wife who's getting 1927 01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.760 high on ghosts and her husband is the dealer. Mike, 1928 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:24.000 what do you think about this one? Don't nobody can 1929 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:24.720 see you? Whisper? 1930 01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:29.920 You couldn't hear me? Whisper that vague that I could. 1931 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:34.840 I didn't really like this one all, especially the way 1932 01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.000 that it ended. I had no freaking idea what was 1933 01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:41.960 going on for so much of this one and then 1934 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:42.760 it just ended? 1935 01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:44.479 What the fuck? 1936 01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:48.239 So what did I miss? What did I miss with it? 1937 01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:51.199 That seems to be my thing for the shows, And 1938 01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:52.760 somebody please explain this to me? 1939 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:58.399 Okay, very simple young couple Stockwell and Sally Field. Sally 1940 01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:01.279 Field is touched. She and communicate with the dead or 1941 01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:04.079 she's like a conduit for the dead. They can take 1942 01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.399 her over and they can solve their problems, their unfinished 1943 01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:11.560 business on earth through her. And Stockwell has always known 1944 01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:14.119 this and known it's true, and is attracted to that 1945 01:38:14.359 --> 01:38:16.880 aspect of it, even though it's frightening, and he's a 1946 01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:19.119 little worried she which one time she won't be able 1947 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:23.800 to get back. They she feels a poll across the country, 1948 01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:26.439 and so they end up stopping the small town where 1949 01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:28.800 they've been living for about three months, and she keeps 1950 01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:31.760 looking for this house over and over again, and then 1951 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.560 Stockwell goes, see, here's the thing. Stockwell goes to a 1952 01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:38.039 doctor to get her sleeping pills. At that point, the 1953 01:38:38.159 --> 01:38:41.840 doctor said, doctor is categorizing it as hallucinations, and he's 1954 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:46.399 basically blaming Stockwell for enabling these things. And he says, 1955 01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:50.239 I've seen cases like this. The subject wants to go further, 1956 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:53.560 they don't want to come back. That's the setup for 1957 01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:58.520 the end, because eventually the main ghost that's been haunting 1958 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:02.319 her trying to find the summer how it's another young 1959 01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:08.079 bride whose child had died and their baby was interred incorrectly, 1960 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.199 and that has to be corrected. And that's been the 1961 01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:11.119 task the whole time. 1962 01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:11.479 Wow. 1963 01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.960 So Dean Stockwell plays the part of the husband and 1964 01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:19.159 he buries the baby, the proxy for the baby. But 1965 01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:23.159 it's been happening for so long that what Sally feel, 1966 01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:25.399 what Dean Stockwell was worried about, and what the doctor 1967 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:27.880 warned about comes to pass and she can't get back 1968 01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:28.479 to her body. 1969 01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:29.359 Yeah. 1970 01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:32.920 Wow, So I was so confused because Sally Field through 1971 01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:36.680 this whole episode is talking I guess with the ghosts. 1972 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:40.279 She but yes, but she is the ghost at times, 1973 01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:43.439 but she's talking with the ghost and then Dean Stockwell, 1974 01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:48.720 I guess he's talking to us the audience. Yes, okay. 1975 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:51.600 See that's the most confusing thing. You can't have one 1976 01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.800 character talking to nobody and then have another character talking 1977 01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:58.239 to nobody. But one character's talking to another character and 1978 01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:02.000 another character's talking to us. That was really fucked up. 1979 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:02.279 Man. 1980 01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:08.680 I'm sorry, but I just like, I'm with you. It's 1981 01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:11.760 fucking bizarre. Look hy like, are you like it's my 1982 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.960 thing on this show? It's not yet? Things like fucking win? 1983 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:15.479 Are you that? 1984 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:17.359 That's what I feel like? 1985 01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:20.760 I mean, how many times have I asked that on 1986 01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:23.680 this show? I'm not high while I'm. 1987 01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:27.600 Watching these episodes, I swear I'm straight, but to be fair, 1988 01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.520 I was gonna say I did get what was going on, 1989 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.800 and I can tell you with absolute certainty, this is 1990 01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:35.640 just a god. 1991 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.720 This is just a spinning of wheels and a treading 1992 01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:44.680 of water for twenty minutes, just and you know what, 1993 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:48.600 Dean Stock's fine, Sally Field's fine. Sally Field doesn't play 1994 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:52.880 crazy very well. She's just too goddamn and daring as 1995 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:55.520 an actress. And yeah, the ending is just. 1996 01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:00.439 Oh, you need to see Sybil, she's as. 1997 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:07.119 Yeah, I haven't seen that, so barring not having not 1998 01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:10.399 seen that, this is not a very good representation of 1999 01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.079 that is probably a better way of putting it. And 2000 01:41:13.239 --> 01:41:17.920 the ending is laughably bad. I mean it's it's it's yeah, 2001 01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:21.199 it's it's Asaines. Oh my god. But what so the 2002 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:23.319 question then becomes, if you can't get back to your body, 2003 01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:27.479 what does that mean? What the what does that mean? 2004 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:31.359 Does that mean she's just a catatonic shell, eyes rolled 2005 01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:33.279 back into her head, can't do anything, or is the 2006 01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:36.880 ghost still in her body? Again? This isn't Oh, they 2007 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:39.239 don't explain it because they don't need to. They don't 2008 01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:41.199 explain it, because I don't think they have a way 2009 01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:45.199 to explain it, because they spend twenty minutes doing everything 2010 01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.520 in their power to try to show, not tell, what's 2011 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:52.680 going on, and they somehow fail remarkably. 2012 01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.399 You just wait, Father Malone's gonna love this episode. I 2013 01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:57.960 fucking loved this episode. 2014 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.720 It boy, that is the theme here. It's too hot, 2015 01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:07.239 too cold, just right right. 2016 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:11.399 It's the magic of Jehan's work. No, I'm not that's 2017 01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:13.239 not the case. I'm not liking it to the John's. 2018 01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.319 The magic OF's Wark should be the name of your 2019 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:17.800 next podcast, because I think at this point you have 2020 01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:21.159 been You have defended no director more ever in the 2021 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.199 history of anything we've worked on than Jean's Wark. 2022 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.640 He's really good and he does fucking really good work here, Man, 2023 01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:28.199 what can I tell you? 2024 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:29.880 He's no John Batham. 2025 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:34.319 I'll tell you that he's at least Batham's equal. Love sir. Okay, 2026 01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:37.239 here's what I liked about it. I liked the confusion 2027 01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:40.319 at the beginning where okay, first of all, it starts 2028 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.319 in it It's typical of Night Gallery the entire run 2029 01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:47.199 of the series, where I think we've all been baffled 2030 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:49.479 for a good portion of every segment as to what 2031 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:53.039 time period this is. But this episode actually embraces that. 2032 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:55.119 It makes us think that we're in some sort of 2033 01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:59.479 like little little house on the prairie time. And then 2034 01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:02.560 suddenly she's burning a plane ticket in the thing. I 2035 01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:05.239 thought that was great, I do understand what you're saying, like, 2036 01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:08.760 because she's talking to what I thought was her. I 2037 01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:10.800 thought she was breaking the fourth wall. I thought she 2038 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:13.880 was talking to us initially, but then she's just talking 2039 01:43:13.960 --> 01:43:18.479 to nobody. And then when we get outside, it's this 2040 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:22.199 slow pan of her and we get this voiceover. I thought, 2041 01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:24.439 I like, oh, we're getting a voice over from Dean Stockhold. 2042 01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:26.119 We're gonna pan over and see what he's up to. 2043 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:29.960 And then we realize he's speaking out loud, and then 2044 01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.239 is he narrating to himself? And then he turns to us, 2045 01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:36.600 and it's so unnerving. Every time they've done it, and 2046 01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:39.920 they've done it a lot this season, it works like Gangbusters, man. 2047 01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:43.039 And not only that, in this he basically says to us, 2048 01:43:43.319 --> 01:43:47.560 you're dead. That was extra uneasy, thinking I'm now supposed 2049 01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:49.479 to be viewing this in the guise of a ghost. 2050 01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:51.880 I'm just one of these floating spirits around her, and 2051 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:55.039 he keeps looking to us. Over and over again, he'll 2052 01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.359 notice us peering at them. I liked that a lot. 2053 01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:02.439 I think, honestly, is the this is an episode that 2054 01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:05.479 Rod envisioned. I know he had nothing to do with 2055 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:07.800 this episode, but this is what he wanted Night Gallery 2056 01:44:07.880 --> 01:44:11.359 to be beginning to end. I think these gentle character 2057 01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:15.640 pieces with supernatural overtones. That's what I took away from 2058 01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:17.560 a Navy. I do want to point out one thing. 2059 01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:19.920 I haven't done this in some time, but there is 2060 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:23.279 another performer in this episode who deserves a bit of 2061 01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:23.840 a spotlight. 2062 01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:24.279 Here we go. 2063 01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:34.960 Oh that stormy wind from the Hannah bar Era library 2064 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:37.840 so good. 2065 01:44:37.920 --> 01:44:39.319 I'm glad I had to hear it again. 2066 01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:42.439 I'm gonna play it again because it comes up again later. 2067 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:43.479 Oh. I know. 2068 01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:46.079 It really to the point where when I was watching 2069 01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:48.520 it with my wife, she goes, can you turn it down? 2070 01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:52.439 It's really obnoxious? And then I go of all the 2071 01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:55.279 times to be watching this in the even as opposed 2072 01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:56.319 to early in the more. 2073 01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.920 So, here's something cool. When William, Hannah and Joseph Barbera 2074 01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:06.479 left MGM to start Hannah Barbera animation, they took their 2075 01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:09.800 sound editor from MGM, who in turn took with him 2076 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:13.960 a massive amount of sounds from the MGM library, which 2077 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.359 had made available to all the studios in nineteen sixty 2078 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:20.760 five when Hannah Barbara released it as their own soundtrack 2079 01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:25.800 library that includes Stormy Wind. Here it plays a prominent role. Here, 2080 01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:28.720 it's been played too often, too long. It is no 2081 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:31.319 longer in use, thank god, but it has appeared a 2082 01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:36.039 lot in nike Gar gallery. It just was so prominently displayed. 2083 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:37.399 I had to had to point it out here. 2084 01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:41.680 Yeah, I am shocked that you like this, But to 2085 01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:46.359 Mike's point, it is kind of on brand. But that's 2086 01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:49.680 not a bad thing. Like I think my issue is 2087 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:52.720 more in tune with where Mike is coming from, which 2088 01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:55.920 is I really had a hard time understanding what the 2089 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.199 fuck who the buck was being talked to and that 2090 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.680 I mean again understand I ended up understanding what was 2091 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.079 going on. I just I don't know, coupling the weird 2092 01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:10.279 storytelling with a very weak ending, Like again, I'm really 2093 01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.960 struggling to understand what the what the the meaning of 2094 01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:14.880 the story is. 2095 01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:19.079 Can I say about the ending? I actually found it 2096 01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:24.279 horrified that the concept, Like I know they don't explain 2097 01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:27.960 to us what it means. But in my mind, she's 2098 01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:30.279 just floating in the ether now and her body is 2099 01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:31.680 a vegetable, like. 2100 01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:34.760 Right, so it's like get out there, like okay. 2101 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:39.239 Yeah, and now not even that. But Dean Stockwell now 2102 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.000 is stuck with the notion that everyone has said to him, 2103 01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:45.640 you shouldn't be encouraging this in her, and like the 2104 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:47.359 docu even says to him, she's got all these things. 2105 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:47.880 What do you have? 2106 01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:51.119 I've got her. So the horror here is that now 2107 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:56.199 he's caused this thing and this crisis of supernatural conscience. 2108 01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:57.279 This I don't know. 2109 01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:00.560 It bothered me. It worked on me. This ending what 2110 01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:01.119 can I tell you? 2111 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:07.199 I get it you and passionately describing it I think 2112 01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:10.039 made me appreciate it a little bit more just now 2113 01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:14.079 because it did a very poor job in expressing. 2114 01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.920 It's Dean Stockwell man. He's just so goddamned expressive. 2115 01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:19.359 The best part of this episode. 2116 01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:23.279 Oh my god, he's amazing. I enjoy any chance to 2117 01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:25.720 see him, and he elevates everything and I don't think 2118 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:27.800 I don't think the script does him in the service. 2119 01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:31.239 Too often on this show, we've had really like Powerhouse 2120 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:34.119 guest stars who have been ill served by the script. 2121 01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:35.760 I don't think the script will served anybody here. 2122 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:36.720 I know. 2123 01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:38.920 I understand the problems you guys had with it, and 2124 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:40.920 I understand them. I don't know it just this one 2125 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.159 just vibrated on a different frequency with me for some reason. 2126 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.159 It's okay. I feel like while we might disagree about 2127 01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:48.920 this one, I feel like the longer we go on 2128 01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:51.720 in this episode, the less we're gonna disagree, probably to 2129 01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:54.399 the point of complete and total agreement. 2130 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:55.800 And something gonna be a high five at the end. 2131 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:57.159 We don't need to say a word. 2132 01:47:57.640 --> 01:48:00.520 Yeah, it'll be a freeze frame. Yeah, it'll be good. 2133 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:07.520 Anything else about the whispering? All right? Then? 2134 01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:11.359 Dally Field is cute in this She's very adorable. 2135 01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:14.039 I know it's been adorable, I know. 2136 01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:18.279 But it's like extra adorable, like extra adorable, Like they 2137 01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:20.359 shoot her in such a way and she's just sent 2138 01:48:20.439 --> 01:48:24.159 her free in the whole time, talking into the distance, 2139 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.000 like just something about it, Like they just went adorable 2140 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:28.800 twenty five. 2141 01:48:29.520 --> 01:49:02.560 And they were lucky to get its 2142 01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:26.239 Sis sist