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Body of Christ where questions or curiosity didn't result in

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the lynch mob showing up. We have got to put

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the infrastructure of the coming beast system like in the

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days of Noah. Through our technology, we are going to

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dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and grow,

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not what we want. If you were looking for an

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much appreciated. Man, guys, this is one of my one

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of my favorite people. Nobody's going to hear that. But

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six seven years now. So this is a dear friend

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probably the fourth or fifth time at least, but I'd

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like to welcome back to the show Vicky Joy Anderson VICKI,

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how are you, my friend?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I am doing great as always. Thanks for having

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me on. This should be a good combo.

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it's going to be because the technical issues we've had

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getting this thing started, so we finally got figured out

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and I was like, get behind the evil spawn of Satan.

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have a good conversation.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, it seems like I just know I'm in

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the right place when it takes twenty minutes to get started.

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known person. But if somebody is maybe new to the space,

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or new to the channel, or just thought the subject

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of this episode sounded intriguing they wanted to check it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, I'm Vicky Joy Anderson, writer, author, researcher, poet,

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and most people who know me for they only come

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out at Night, which was a book exposing the spiritual

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be an extrapolation of sleep paralysis or maybe a deeper

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fall under the umbrella of spiritual warfare, because obviously the

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enemy is coming at us from many different angles. And

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all these conversations about it, and then you get five

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theological language. It was the providence of God where he

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just kept nudging me until my passageway got more and

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the answer, but collectively, if I invite hundreds of other

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and we got to do it together. Let's be a body.

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people who are geologists, the people who do study these

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things that the higher learning and the more educated voices

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I got it. This will blow your mind. Justin, I

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their wheelhouse that blows my mind. And I'm the type

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justin where I can go to church and you can

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on some amplifiers and sing like really loud worship music

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start to connect and it exposes the deeds of the devil,

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glory and the efficiency and the sovereignty and the beauty

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their entire lives, and they went into fight or flight

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with an open mind and then search the scriptures to

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have intellectually honest and stimulating conversations within the body of

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Christ where questions or curiosity didn't result in the lynch

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take this person into consideration or Vicky, you know what

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oh you're right, you're right, Okay. Justin in the last

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fifteen years, I have considered things that I've never considered before,

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never taught in church. But I'm also now because I'm

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which is highly organized, and we know from the Book

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of Revelation from an eschatological point of view, for a time,

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for a season, Jesus is sovereignly going to allow this

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need to remember, like Solomon, that there's nothing new under

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the sun. And there are aspects of this AI that

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go beyond binary code. It goes beyond zeros and ones.

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are going to be unwittingly practicing divination by directly communicating

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with the ancient ones. And we're not even going to

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know it because it's going to be disguised in our technology.

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And so we as believers. I don't care how scary

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it is. I don't care how on call comfortable it is.

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These are conversations we are going to have to have

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because every generation, whether you're from the older generation and

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you're smart and you know better, or you're from the

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young generation and you think they don't know anything, which

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is funny because the younger generations know way more about

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this tech than we do. And so much of this

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agenda that's being unraveled is mirroring the gaming world, which

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the younger generations have us out gamed on, right, And

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so it is important that all generations in the body

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get together start these conversations. You know what, the younger

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generations have things to learn from us with the gray hairs,

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and those of us gray hairs have a lot to

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learn from the younger generations who understand this infrastructure. So

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We got to get over all these divisive little categories

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like church denomination and age and all this baby boomer

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millennial nonsense. Right, we have to unify because the enemy

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is unified. They're they're organized, they have an agenda, and

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so we have to unify, and we have to start

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thinking outside of the box. And we have to stop

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thinking about technology and AI through the very limited framework

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of binary code and zeros and ones and gaming and

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computers and five G. We have to expand the borders

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of that framework to include history, anthropology, especially ancient Near

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East culture, because if that's what's coming back, the days

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of Noah, if that's what's coming back, but you know

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nothing about that culture, you're not going to see what's

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happening because they're mirroring these things. And I talk extensively.

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In fact, one could even say the entirety of my

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new book is about how these gods are coming back,

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but instead of the vessels being made of stone like

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they were in Antidiluvian times, the vessels are now being

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made of tech, like these are the new Bethels, the

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new houses of God. So we're not bowing down to stones,

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but we're likewise bowing down to man made objects, physical

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tangible pieces, elements that may at one point house these

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entities and these demons and these fallen ones. Days of Noah.

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That's what was going on, and days of Noah are

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going to return. So we need to understand that at

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some point the sentience isn't the binary code. The sentience

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isn't coming from programming. Sentience isn't coming from coming up

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with something quantum that's beyond the zero and one.

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Speaker 2: But the mist bottle that holds the fragrance.

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Speaker 1: It's the bottle that holds a fragrance. And the mystery

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of the black box really isn't that big of a mystery.

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We type in zeros and ones and this sentient like

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thing comes out. We have no idea what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's the scary part. When I heard a guy

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say that, he's like, oh, we set up the parameters

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and the defence and the guidelines and you know the

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boundary lines, he said, But this thing just takes off

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and does all this on its own. We just say, okay,

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you can't go here, you can't say this, but it

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just does it on its own, and we don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Well and justin the reason

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they don't know, and I do believe so are there

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people way up here that know, of course, but the

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compartmentalized little guys at the desk do they know? Probably not.

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The reason they don't know is the same reason why

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I was just saying, we have to get in touch

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with the historical anthropological culture of the ancient Near East,

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because this is everything I've been talking about for years.

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What they only come out at night. This has to

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do with thresholds, if you prefer the word liminal space

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or portal, fine, whatever. These are the invitations, these are

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the covenants. These are the lines that we're crossing. So

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if you are writing out binary code and there's parameters

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saying you can come this far but no farther, you

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have just legally given them permission to come this far,

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which in twenty twenty six is always all way farther

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than the boundaries we would have set in nineteen fifty

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or before that. And just a small little caveat for

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those of you listening, and I'm actually going to be

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doing a livestream on this this week. The phrase artificial

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intelligence was first coined in a paper that was presented

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in nineteen fifty six at a Dartmouth College symposium, and

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there was about five brains behind this paper. It was

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it was a fundraising paper because they wanted to raise

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funds for their project. The phrase artificial intelligence was coined

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in that paper written in nineteen fifty five. The word,

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the concept and the definition of artificial intelligence has been

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around since nineteen fifty five, but hear me, it was

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a new term coined for a new generation because the

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terms and phrases that they had for the same concept

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prior to nineteen fifty five weren't cool enough. You know,

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they had to update it. Before that, it was you know,

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cybernetics and automatons and different things like that. So what's

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very important for people to understand is artificial intelligence has

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been around as a phrase since nineteen fifty five, but

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it has been around as a concept for hundreds of years.

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They just keep changing the name, and as things that

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are deemed artificial intelligence become common place, as the Uncanny

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Valley aspects of it become accepted, then those things become normal.

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So they're no longer considered artificial intelligence, but at the

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time that they were introduced they were. So this will

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blow your mind. Justin according to the definition of what

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we really mean when we say artificial intelligence. The Abacus

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was one of the first examples, because AI isn't robots

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and synthetic humans and clones running around or you know,

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Siri all of a sudden falling in love with you,

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or your rumba, you know, trying to strangle you at night.

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You know what we have to get out of this

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sci fi mindset, all this dystopian stuff artificial intelligence and

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this is a totally crude, just shooting from the hip definition.

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Obviously you're going to get a much more profound one

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if you look up the actual official set in Stone definition.

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It is a object. It is an extension of the

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human body that assists in logic, reason, calculations, computations, So

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a calculator, an It's considered artificial intelligence not because it's

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smarter than us, or because it seems to have emotion

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or it seems lifelike. It's because it's something outside of

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my own fingers and brain that I'm using to assist

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me in logic, reason and computation. And so we have

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to start by defining our terms. If everybody out there

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thinks artificial intelligence are sentient robots that are going to,

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like Elon Musk is trying to get us, we have

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to upgrade, We have to become transhuman. We have to

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upgrade because the machines are going to become smarter than us. Well, yeah,

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that ms true, but that is beyond the legal definition

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of art official intelligence. You're talking now about something way

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beyond artificial intelligence. And so we have to understand that

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this stuff that's coming, whether you want to call it

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sentient tech, whether you want to call it ag I,

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whether regardless of what term you call it, it really

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frustrates me justin when we can't get beyond phase one

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of an intelligent conversation, because there's people out there that

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want to bicker over what word you've chosen. Oh, you supernatural,

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and you should have said supernatural, or you should have

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said cosmic, or you should have said miracle putting hairs

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because you don't want to actually get into the meat

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of this discussion because it scares you, or you think

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it's stupid, or it irritates you, or you don't think

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it's important or for whatever reason, and so whatever you

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want to call it is absolutely fine with me. But

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the point is, if we don't understand the difference between AI,

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which as a phrase has been around since nineteen fifty,

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but as a concept it has been around for hundreds

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of years. If we're gonna every single thing gets branded AI,

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this is where you get the extreme pendulum swings and

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where Satan is going to divide and conquer the Body

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of Christ. And this is my passion. This is why

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my voice is getting raised and I'm getting upset because

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I don't care what the enemy does or thinks he's

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gonna do. He's gonna lose in the end. I don't

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have to be afraid. Yea, though I walk through the

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valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no

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evil for thou art with me. I don't care what

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they're doing in Silicon Valley and all their little plots

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and their little occult rituals. What I care about is united.

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We stand, divided, we fall, and we are. The way

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we bring glory and delight and joy to our Savior

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is by getting along and functioning as a body. We

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don't attack each other. We don't want the Body of

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Christ to have autoimmune disease where it thinks the thyroid

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is in an enemy, so it starts shooting at and

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attacking it until the whole body dies. That's not glorifying

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to Jesus Christ. And so the reason I'm passionate, and

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the reason why it matters how we define artificial intelligence

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is because if we think every single thing out there

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now this branded AI is the mark of the beast

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or this or that, then we're going to have people

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judging other people because you still have a cell phone.

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Oh you have an Alexa in your house, Oh you

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use chat GPT, and we are going to be bickering

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and judging and fighting. And as long as we are

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bickering and guys, this happens, the occult thrives on its

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ability to conjure and summon and call up these demons,

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and it comes through negative human emotion, the collective grief, sorrow, despair, anger, fear,

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all of that going up into the ether and filling

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the air with all of this negativity. It they harness

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it and then they turn it against us with these

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psyops and these miscibo effects and this fear mongering. Need

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I remind everyone of the craziness that happened in twenty twenty.

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They know how to harness this and use it and

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turn it against us. We must be united as a

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body of believers. So when you talk about artificial intelligence,

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it's just an external tool that aids and assists humanity

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in logic, reason, outputs, computations. So when you say you

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can't use AI, well then you better get rid of

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your calculator. You better not use ever use an instant

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messenger where you go online and on your bank account

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and it says what's your account number and you plug

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it in and they give you your information. That's all AI.

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You're not talking to a human being. And so how

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far are we going to go in boycotting every single

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thing that has binary code attached to it?

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Speaker 2: And that's something that with the conspiracy crowd that I've

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been fighting with, it's like, yeah, I know, you know

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there's lies, I know there's deception, but it's not everything everywhere,

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you know, it's not everything is fake and gay. If

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that's the case, you know what's real, you know. And

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it's like I see so many people like in our

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sphere anyways, it's like everything is wicked, everything is pagan,

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everything's the devil. And it's like, man, the way you're

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acting and coming off, it's like we should all be

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locked up in the closet with the light turned off

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because the world's so wicked we can't be a part

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of it. God commanded us to be set apart, you know.

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And I'm like, oh my gosh, guys. You know, when

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is a shirt a shirt? When is a number a number?

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And it's funny I'm talking about this now because my shirt.

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You know, I'm from Tennessee. I'm Tennessee boy. This is

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a Tennessee football jerseys Tennessee orange and Alvin Kamara is

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one of my favorite players, and he was a running

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back and his number was six. I wore this jersey

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on a pretty big show a while back. But it's

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a conspiracy show. And then everybody's like, look he's got

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his hat on backwards. That means he's distorting the truth.

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Look he's got a number six, and look he's got

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a six on the shoulder and a six on the

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other shoulder to triple six. Oh man, oh, when he

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was talking, he did this.

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Speaker 1: Oh yep, and the Nike you got your little Saturn

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switch on there too, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Come on, guys, win's a shirt of shirt. You know,

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when's a number a number?

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Speaker 3: Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most

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people never think about what they're carrying. We do because

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preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway.

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Comfort isn't a luxury. It's what keeps you moving when

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the day goes longer than planned. That's why every Squatch

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Survival pack is made here start to finish. Squatch builds

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packs for people who don't assume the day will stay easy.

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Ruguru Mofman built to last your missions and be passed

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down when you're done.

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Speaker 2: Squatch Survival gear ready for the next one.

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Speaker 1: Justin. It is so true. I don't want to go

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too far down the rabbit hole. But like even today

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you can't really see it, but I'm wearing a through

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the black shirt, you know, a Tom Done black shirt,

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and it says it is well with my soul. But

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there's this black raven and this skull, because that was

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00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,519
the whole thing behind it. With Tom, it's well with

477
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,079
my soul. You can have all your little black ravens

478
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,039
and your skulls and your death and your symbols. It's

479
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,119
well with my soul. Now people can distort that as well,

480
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,559
but there justin. There's so many times where I'm online

481
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440
and they're going to find whatever they can. I remember

482
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,880
once we were doing the show on Through the Black

483
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440
and Tom had a cold. He was really sick, and

484
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,119
so he kept muting his microphone and hacking up along

485
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,599
he was coughing, and there was some troll in the

486
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,319
comment section saying Tom's trying to hex us because coughing

487
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,720
is like whipcraft. And I'm like, oh my goodness, the

488
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:17,680
poor guy can't even have the flu. You know, it's

489
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,000
it's It was just crazy. But we could both tell

490
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:23,200
a million of these stories. You know, why is she

491
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,119
always wearing black? And I remember once I was wearing

492
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,839
a very hilarious but a truth behind a T shirt

493
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,079
on a podcast, and it's the famous one. We all know,

494
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,559
the Smithsonian has the bones and so there's a cartoon

495
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,480
skeleton with a bow on its head, you know, and like,

496
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,599
but the truth of the matter is the Smithsonian is

497
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,160
obsfucating truth. They're distorting history, they're making they're making it

498
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:59,839
intentionally difficult for us to understand biblical archaeology. Because bib

499
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,160
local archaeology proves that the Bible is reliable, accurate information,

500
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,160
and it points to the glory of God. And they

501
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,920
are hiding that. And so even though the shirt is

502
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,359
very cartoony and she's got a bow on her skull

503
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,119
and all this, the truth behind it is something I'm

504
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,519
very passionate about. You are hiding the glory of God

505
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,839
from people who are going to be deceived. But of course,

506
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,079
the whole entire show, it was a live chat, The

507
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,759
whole show is hijacked by people freaking out that there's

508
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,559
a skull on my T shirt. Come on, this, this

509
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,759
is what I mean. Justin it is like taking candy

510
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,279
from a baby for the enemy to get the church

511
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:48,160
away from planning and organizing a battle plan for the

512
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880
coming days because we want to bicker over how many

513
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,119
sixes are on someone's jersey or if there's a skull

514
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,799
on the T shirt.

515
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,319
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree, and you know the house divided. Yeah,

516
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,319
so we're too busy being paranoid, thinking everybody is a

517
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:05,079
shill or everybody's a plant or working for the devil

518
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,759
to sew discorder. Oh, this person, you know, making you

519
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,480
so paranoid. You guys are tearing yourselves apart. He ain't

520
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160
got to do nothing, You just got to sit back

521
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,839
and watch him kill each other. Yeah, yeah, but Uh,

522
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,720
with your show though, or with a show I seen

523
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,359
that you had went on, you explained something pretty well.

524
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,000
They were asking, uh, what was the connection with Eden

525
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:32,000
and Ai and how you know nothing news under the sun.

526
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:36,119
It's just kind of a repackaged thing. I love the

527
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,039
example you give, and you were talking about there's certain

528
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,920
things in the culture of the Biblical times that people

529
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,440
need to read into and they're going to get offended,

530
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,319
they're going to get in their their fields because it's

531
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,519
not something they've been told every Sunday. But just because

532
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,319
it's not been told to you every Sunday doesn't mean

533
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,799
it's the truth. Because it's uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not

534
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000
the truth. I was wonder if you could maybe walk

535
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,359
us through that, you know, like how you know how

536
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,799
Solomon says nothing new is under the sun. This is

537
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,039
something that's been doing. It's just kind of being repackaged.

538
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:12,200
And you used a really good example with Jacob that

539
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,079
a lot of people don't know about. Yes, yes, realize.

540
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: So I'm going to lay a little bit of groundwork

541
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,319
and then we'll get into Jacob, which is one of

542
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,559
the funnest parts of my research in the book. It's

543
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,720
one of my favorite pieces in the book. But let

544
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:30,599
me lay some groundwork first. The serpent could have said

545
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:37,200
a million different things to Eve. There were limitless angles

546
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,640
of temptation. They think how un knowledgeable Adam and Eve were,

547
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,960
how innocent they were, how pure they were. That serpent

548
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:51,720
probably had a thousand things that would have blown their

549
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,440
minds and led them into temptation or led them into rebellion.

550
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,119
But the one that he goes with is you can

551
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,319
be smart. You can have all this and this wisdom.

552
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240
And they knew that having all of the wisdom available

553
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,039
to them would make them God, because that's what set

554
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,319
them apart from God. He was all knowing and they weren't.

555
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,319
And it's the quest for omniscience. And that's why even

556
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,960
something as basic as your flip phone from the nineties

557
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:25,920
was in essence figuratively a type of fruit from the

558
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,240
tree of knowledge and good and evil. Because if we

559
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:34,559
can seek omniscience, you.

560
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Know, the bots taken out of it.

561
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: Yep, omnipotence. If we are using our phones to connect

562
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,160
to be everywhere, to know everything, to know all the

563
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:49,839
news all over the world, and this is infrastructure, This

564
00:33:50,160 --> 00:34:02,480
is omnipotence packaged technologically, it's omniscience packaged technologically, omnipresence package technologically.

565
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:05,880
So I'm going to lay the foundation that having all

566
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,960
knowledge was appealing to Adam and Eve. We focus on

567
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:12,679
though you can be as like a God, and we're like, oh,

568
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,320
they wanted to be God. Well, the way it was

569
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:19,320
presented to them was you can know everything God knows.

570
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,400
And then we learn in the Book of Enoch Enoch One,

571
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,440
it doesn't just say that the watchers were giving the

572
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,159
mysteries of heaven away to mankind. It actually then says

573
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:37,840
which mankind also wanted. Mankind was just as eager to

574
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,119
receive it. They weren't like say no, no, no, I'm

575
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,440
not interested, like leave me alone or get behind me, Satan,

576
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:48,800
like they were eager. So let's fast forward then to Jacob.

577
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,519
I'll leave some of the treasures. So for those of

578
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,360
you that are reading the book or want to read

579
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,320
the book, it can unfold for you and it's not

580
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,239
a total spoiler alert. I will just say that Luz,

581
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,840
which is where Jacob went before he renamed it Bethel,

582
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:08,360
the city of LUs was an extremely esoteric place, okay,

583
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,840
and there was I always tell Christians like take a

584
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,639
deep breath, don't send me hate. Man. If we culturally

585
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,960
and contextually and historically absolutely understood everything that was going

586
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:29,559
on in Luz with Jacob, we would be offended that

587
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:33,000
that story made it into scripture. In fact, we would

588
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:37,159
be mortified that Jacob set foot in that city. He

589
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,519
should have abstained from all appearances of evil. Why did

590
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,159
he even go there? You know, it's kind of like

591
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
a Christian like I'm going to go into a casino

592
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,440
or I'm going to go into a strip club. Like

593
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,639
now you've got all you know, you got a lot

594
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,039
of explaining to do. I was witnessing, you know what

595
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:56,320
I mean? What were Jacob even doing there? And this

596
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,599
goes back to our propensity as believers. We all know

597
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,239
this isn't true, but our brain sort of reverts to

598
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,119
this safe place that all the good guys in the

599
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:10,360
Bible had a relationship and an understanding with God and

600
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,119
the coming Messiah that we have now in the twenty

601
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,039
first century, and we just have a feeling that if

602
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:17,960
they showed up in a time machine and sat in

603
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,400
in our evangelical churches, that they would just be worshiping

604
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,119
and praising and they would have no clue they would

605
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:28,679
be so out of sorts if they stumbled upon modern Christianity.

606
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,599
And so we have to understand that there were stuff

607
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:35,480
going on in ancient Near East culture that would be

608
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,280
so foreign to us that you think we're paranoid and

609
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,239
thinking everything's the occult now, holy now and again in

610
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,599
the days of Noah. So we've got to learn to

611
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,920
discern these things. Jacob was not a born again Christian. Okay,

612
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,920
he'd never even heard the name Jesus or Christ. They

613
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,800
knew that there was going to be a Messiah, but

614
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,639
they didn't know he was. You know, they didn't have

615
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,840
that peace figured out. They didn't have all the dots connected.

616
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:07,679
He's going to come as a baby and be named

617
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Yashua and all this stuff. Jacob was in a place

618
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,599
of rebellion. He had deceived his father, He had stolen

619
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,760
the birthright. Now, even though God himself was going to

620
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719
give him that birthright, was that the means by which

621
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,760
God was going to give him the birthright? Or did

622
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,800
job get in the way of the timing and the

623
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,320
plan there? You know, if he had just waited, you know,

624
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,559
would the Lord have orchestrated that through different means? So

625
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,679
then you have all of his dealings with his father

626
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,800
in law, which, again, if we understand farming and culture,

627
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,440
there was a lot going on there with the breeding

628
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:48,360
of the cows and Jacob getting rich off of his

629
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,800
father in law and leaving in the middle of the night,

630
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,599
which we get a little cultural clue that his running

631
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:58,800
off in the middle of the night with the daughters

632
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:03,199
was not a cultural acceptable thing to do. There was

633
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:08,280
different family relationships back then between fathers and daughters and

634
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,960
ownership and husbands and wives, and what he did there

635
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:17,639
was not culturally acceptable. And now he's in a place

636
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,119
where his father has passed away and he's fearing for

637
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,559
his life. So now we have fear and anxiety on

638
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,840
top of a guy who, by all appearances doesn't really

639
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,480
seem to have the same relationship with Yahweh that his

640
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:35,840
dad and grandpa had. You don't see a lot of

641
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,440
praise and worship and fear of God up to this point.

642
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,840
You see a lot of shyster like stuff going on.

643
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,199
You see him favoring one wife over the other. You

644
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,519
see him actually violating the Torah by not giving the

645
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:55,039
proper respect to the first wife and withholding et cetera,

646
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,559
et cetera, and so you're not really seeing the fruits

647
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,400
of the spirit going on. I don't know Justin at

648
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480
this point, I know he had had knowledge of Yahweh.

649
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,880
But was there a fear, there was there a respect,

650
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,039
There was there a relationship? Was their love? We don't know.

651
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Because here's where we get a clue. He's now in

652
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,800
a situation where the biggest problem of his life has

653
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,000
to be solved because if Esau finds him, he's going

654
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,800
to be dead. His wives are either going to be

655
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,280
dead or pulled into a harem. His daughters are probably

656
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,239
going to get kidnapped. The sons are probably going to

657
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,079
be murdered. Okay, so this is a life or death situation.

658
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,119
Does he call on the name of Yahweh? No, He

659
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,639
packs up his bags and he goes to Vegas. Yeah,

660
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,119
he goes to the red light district of Amsterdam. Okay,

661
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:54,119
why there was it just along as route? We have

662
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,079
to understand how much knowledge and intentionality these men of

663
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,719
old had. They weren't random. Okay. He goes to Luz

664
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,280
because Luz is an Eso tyric stronghold where people utilize

665
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,119
the rocks there. This is the desert, everybody, Okay, this

666
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
isn't America where everywhere you look as black top. This

667
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,800
is the desert. The rocks, such as the one that

668
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,320
he conveniently used as a pillow, Again intentionality wasn't just

669
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,960
a bunch of sandstone. This was Jupiter Lapis. This was

670
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,480
meteorite fragments that when they hit the sand of the

671
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,320
desert because of the heat. And this is where I

672
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,320
admit I'm not a geologist, Justin, but when meteorite fragments

673
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,039
hit the ocean, they'll look a certain way. When they

674
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,159
hit the ice in Antarctica, they'll look a certain way

675
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:49,400
when they hit blazing hot sand in the Middle.

676
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,559
Speaker 2: East makes silica and glass, Yes.

677
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: Tech tight like silica sand glass. So this rock that

678
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,360
he used as a pillow was probably large, and it

679
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,599
was probably beautiful. It wasn't just some ugly jagged rock.

680
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Now to this day, Justin, there are frequencies in nature.

681
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,840
There's frequencies that come off of plants and trees and

682
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,639
flowers and rocks, and if you know how to harness

683
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,280
those frequencies, and especially if you're in an altered state,

684
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,360
like if you're on a psychedelic or something, these rocks

685
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:32,840
were like ancient binaural beats. They were the tri tone

686
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,599
of brain entrainment. HEMI sank Robert Monroe technology. So with

687
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,880
binoral beats, I don't want to go off on too

688
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,679
far of a tangent. There is a tri tone that

689
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,599
we don't audibly hear, but the brain picks up on

690
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:55,599
it and it balances. It harmonizes the frequency of our

691
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,559
left and our right brain hemisphere, which operate at slightly

692
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,599
different frequencies. They're not the same. When these tritones are played,

693
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,079
it harmonizes the left and right hemispheres of the brain

694
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,480
so that they are now operating at the same frequency.

695
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,320
And when they operate at the same frequency, the pioneal

696
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,880
gland is activated and you now have the opportunity to

697
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:27,679
astral project, or to have one of these astral experiences.

698
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,519
It is a liminal space, it is a threshold, and

699
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,039
to this day, there are places even in America. I

700
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,480
won't tell you where because I don't want people tempted

701
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,760
by it. There are places even in America where if

702
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,119
you are properly sedated and you lay your head down

703
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,039
or you do a headstand on these rocks, you will

704
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,119
instantly astral project. Now, this is something the ancients know

705
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,400
that Theosophists know, the new Agers know a lot of

706
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,800
people that.

707
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,079
Speaker 2: Are you know, all the stone circles and stuff. That's

708
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,159
what they were doing, you know, And that's a when

709
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,239
you go to the Gaelic I think, is what it

710
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,920
is like the root word of a church. It goes

711
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,320
to like kirk. So they said, you know, let's go

712
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,960
to the kirk. Yes, you know that drived into church.

713
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,159
That was the stones of the ancient world. Let's go

714
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:14,920
to the stones.

715
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes, guys, if this kind of stuff interests you, you're

716
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,079
gonna love. From Eden to Ai. If you don't want

717
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,960
to read two hundred plus pages about rocks, you might

718
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,719
get bored. But let me tell you what was going on.

719
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:32,320
The reason all of these altars and steely's and pillars

720
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
that they were bowing down to were made of stone.

721
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,360
And what some of those stones really were. What they

722
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,199
were made of Cybelle Diana who fell from Zeus. These

723
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,079
were meteorites, They were tech type. It was sandglass, you know,

724
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,880
it was silica. And we'll get into that importance of

725
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,920
the silica in a second. Back to Jacob. He didn't

726
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,280
fast and pray, he didn't rent his garments and throw

727
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,719
his face to the ground and repent of sin and

728
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,400
beg for God's help. Look at the ways that various

729
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,199
kings of Judah acted throughout history. Look at the way

730
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,480
King David acted. Look at the way men of God

731
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,119
acted when they got into life and death situations. Look

732
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:18,079
how Daniel reacted when he knew he was going to

733
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,840
be thrown into a lion's den. He boldly went in

734
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920
front of a window and cried out to Yahweh for

735
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,079
all the world to see. What happened when Shadrack, Nishek

736
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,639
and Abdnigo were in a life and death situation before

737
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,039
being thrown into a furnace, all the pipes and the

738
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:37,360
flutes played and for everyone to see in public, we

739
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,039
will not bow down. This is the way men who

740
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,239
fear God act. What does Jacob do? He goes to Vegas,

741
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,920
finds the first strip club he can go into, Like

742
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:51,000
that's basically culturally what he was doing. He was going

743
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,239
into a very crude place that men who fear God

744
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,880
wouldn't go.

745
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: Foreshadowing of Tsau with the Witch of Indoor.

746
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, So he is basically hoping to channel a

747
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,679
spirit guide. That's what he's doing there, and the reason

748
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:14,880
why Jacob woke up the next morning, shocked, sober minded, convicted.

749
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Why he turned that very stone on its side and

750
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,960
anointed it and dedicated not just the stone, but the

751
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:28,039
whole place. He called Bethel House of God because that

752
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,639
place where the God of Abraham and Isaac never should

753
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:37,639
have been caught dead, showed up for him. Literally, God

754
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,639
showed up in a god forsaken place. And I'll throw

755
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,920
this one in just for a bonus. Guys, if you

756
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,559
look up the words stair away in the Hebrew and

757
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:49,639
you go back to its etymological origins, it was a ziggorot.

758
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,280
Now that should freak you out. What in the world

759
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,840
is the Angel of God doing a sending and descending

760
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,519
a ziggorot? That is Blesphe.

761
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: Goes back to the Tower Bible doing on me thirty teen.

762
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,760
That's what they were doing.

763
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: That's what they were doing, and so uh he calls

764
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:13,280
it house of God. Interestingly, the men of LUs fled

765
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,559
the place. If you read the Bible carefully, there's two

766
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,239
cities of LUs. Because the men of LUs fled and

767
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,440
they started a new LUs, and they weren't going to

768
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,960
bring those Jupiter stones with them. They started then worshiping

769
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,480
and venerating the Hawassie stones in the second city of LUs.

770
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,199
And what I think was happening there culturally is Oh, no,

771
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,159
the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob claimed this ground

772
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:46,599
for himself. Oh, it's no longer ours. It's the same

773
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,440
theory as Dagon. You know, when when Dagon bowed over

774
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,760
the threshold and fell into a million pieces, right, and

775
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,599
then from that point forward, no one would touch the

776
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:01,079
threshold because that threshold now along to Yahweh, because his

777
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:05,039
present had been made known in that temple. So, with

778
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:09,800
all that said, with our technology, Jacob had a life

779
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,280
or death situation. He had a problem. He needed it solved,

780
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,360
He needed divine wisdom. He didn't initially go to the

781
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,880
god of his father and grandfather. He went to the

782
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:27,239
cultural area where he could connect with esoteric knowledge. So

783
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:31,119
my question is, at what point, right now, next year,

784
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,880
fifty years from now, at what point when every time

785
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,480
we have a problem, we have anxiety, we were not

786
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:41,000
making enough money to pay our bills, we're having a

787
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:48,119
relationship problem, are we running to the stones before we prayer?

788
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,519
Speaker 2: Fast?

789
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:50,159
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I said that we would

790
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,960
talk about silica for a second. Our technology up to

791
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:56,920
this point has been primarily the chips have been made

792
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,880
of silicon. We know that. That's why it's called silicon valley. Right,

793
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,480
we know this mystery in the black box, we put

794
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:07,119
in zeros in ones, this sentient stuff comes out. What's happening? Well,

795
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,039
the AI computer chips and these quantum chips and these

796
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,960
you know MAJORA one or Mazura five or whatever Microsoft's

797
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,559
going on. Now, these quantum computer chips have a secret sauce.

798
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,719
It's not silicon, it's silicon carbide. Silicon carbide can be

799
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,519
synthetically produced in a lab. It's how we make cz

800
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,599
faked diamonds and gemstones and things like that. We can

801
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,679
create artificial synthetic silicon carbide in a lab. And I

802
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,559
go into great detail in my book about who first

803
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,280
came up with that and the masaite and all that stuff. Right,

804
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,880
here's where we have to go. Hmm, do I need

805
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920
to do a little first John for one? Here? Silicon

806
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:56,119
carbide can be found in a non synthetic natural created

807
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,440
by God state. One place it can be mined. One

808
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,920
place do you want to guess where are one place

809
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,079
to mine silicon carbide is.

810
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: Africa?

811
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,679
Speaker 1: You're correct, location wise, But what is what are we

812
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,679
mining it from? And I won't put you on the

813
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,920
spot too long. Here's the payoff. It's in meteorites. We

814
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,679
are nothing new under the sun. We are currently spending

815
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:29,679
billions in the Blue economy, which is fishing nodules out

816
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,599
from the ocean floor. The nodules are meteorite fragments. Now

817
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:37,079
they tell us this is because of the extreme supply

818
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,559
and demand that they can't keep up with for electric

819
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:46,639
vehicle batteries. The Blue economy is nodules off the ocean floor.

820
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,880
They're meteorites that have fallen into the ocean. Antarctica and

821
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:54,280
smet they're mining the ice for all of the fragments

822
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:00,280
of meteorites. NASA is spending millions to billions eight year

823
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,039
using computations and computer programs to predict when meteorites are

824
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:10,360
going to fall so they can capture them before they

825
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,760
hit the earth and break into useless pieces. And then

826
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,039
we have the sand glass, we have the deck love glass. Interestingly,

827
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,760
there is a reference in the Old Testament. I want

828
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,559
to say it's Deuteronomy, but I could be wrong, And

829
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,320
it talks about the treasures in the sand. And I

830
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:30,119
looked that phrase up in the Thayers in the Hebrew

831
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,760
and all that. The word sand in almost every usage

832
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,000
in the Old Testament means sand I got the seashore.

833
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,440
In the one verse where it talks about the treasures

834
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,599
of the sand, it is a specific word that means glass.

835
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,679
That's why. Not because it's alien material, not because it's

836
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,119
a meteorite, it's a space rock. It's a treasure because

837
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:59,679
the ancients knew it was a powerful communication device. This

838
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,199
why King Tut had a brooch. I have a picture

839
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,280
of it in my book. Unfortunately it's black and white.

840
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,639
You can look it up in color and you'll get

841
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:11,280
the picture. It's a large chest piece or nate and

842
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,880
the centerpiece of it is a large scarab right over

843
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,679
the heart, made of sand glass. It's meteoric. Now, when

844
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,119
you look at Aaron and you look at those in

845
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:27,360
the priesthood who wore gemstones and the breastplate, I always

846
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,519
just thought it was because it looked pretty. Oh, each

847
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,159
tribe gets a color, and you know team colors. Right.

848
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:37,599
Why are all these ancient people wearing stones things that

849
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,360
emit a frequency over their chest? And why are all

850
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,760
these ancient people mysteriously powerful and justin I just want

851
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,719
to make it abundantly clear. I don't think that Aaron

852
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:53,239
and Moses and Jacob and these ancient guys, I don't

853
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,320
believe that they were magicians or occultists, because I believe

854
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,119
that intent and source of power has everything to do

855
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,840
with it. So if you're taking a stone or a staff,

856
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,280
you're taking something created by God and it is being

857
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:16,599
used to direct the attention of fallen man to the Creator.

858
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,719
If that staff or that stone is being used to

859
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,519
harness power that will convict people of sin or make

860
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,440
them aware of a creator who they're one day going

861
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:33,599
to be accountable. If God, in his wisdom chooses to

862
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,039
use artificial intelligence an extension of the human body like

863
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,519
rocks and stones and staffs to point to himself, he

864
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,960
can do whatever he pleases. All things were created by him,

865
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,039
through him, for him. It's only when these stones and

866
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:55,719
crystals and staffs are used to conjure fallen ones so

867
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,480
that I can become like a God, then it becomes

868
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:03,079
Then it becomes a cult, then it becomes esoteric. And

869
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:06,000
so this is something justin we have to be so

870
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,079
careful with. And this is where so many people get

871
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:15,320
upset because they misunderstand. God doesn't need crystals and stones

872
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:20,159
and rocks and staffs or prophets or anything to communicate

873
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,000
with us. He can do whatever he pleases. I do

874
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:28,559
think it's interesting, though, that we are reprimanded in scripture

875
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:34,800
that if we do not fulfill our purpose for being alive,

876
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,239
which is to glorify the name of Jesus Christ, what

877
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,719
cries out instead of us?

878
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. I was about

879
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,840
to ask you about that. What was it mean when

880
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,079
Jesus said that even if I remain silent, these stones

881
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:48,840
will cry, And I was going to ask you that.

882
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's something deeply mysterious. God created this stuff.

883
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:57,639
God isn't surprised. Oh no, rocks give off frequencies and

884
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,840
people can harness that for bad stuff. Of course, he knew.

885
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,760
The enemy is always going to steal what God has

886
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,239
made and distort it and turn it inward instead of upward.

887
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,960
We know that, and justin it disturbs me because I

888
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,199
want things to be easy to explain to the skeptics.

889
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,840
It's distressing to me that Moses had a staff and

890
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,719
that Aaron has gemstones over his chest. It distresses me

891
00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:30,039
that you have to wear linen in an all cedar room,

892
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,000
and if you even touch the ark of the covenent,

893
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:39,440
you're incinerated. There are quantum physics things going on in

894
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,320
the creation of God. There's things going on with the

895
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,639
trees and the flowers, and the mountains and the water

896
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,840
and the ocean and the moon and the sun. And

897
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,559
it distresses me because it makes it all the more

898
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:55,199
difficult for us to continue to redeem those things for

899
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,480
God's glory when so many people, for so many thousands

900
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,280
of years, have taken those things and use them as

901
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,159
conduits of conjuring up fallen ones. But we also have

902
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,039
to be careful not to throw the baby out with

903
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,000
the bathwater. So where where do I safely land this plane?

904
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,840
Justin there will be people who will misunderstand. But what

905
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,119
I'm trying to tell you is that the ancients understood

906
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,079
how to harness these frequencies, and they use them not

907
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,599
as a means to direct people to confession of sin,

908
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,360
or to the glory of God, or to the surrendering

909
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:31,559
to their maker. They used it the same way the

910
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:34,840
serpent used it in the garden to lull and woo

911
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,360
humanity into the false notion that they could ascend into

912
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:45,119
a higher vibrational being, obtain ancient wisdom, and become as

913
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:47,000
a god. Talk about it.

914
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: I think what he said that we traded the truth

915
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,000
for a lie. He said, well, you know, we worshiped

916
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:54,880
the created things instead of the creatorwards Like, yeah, God

917
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,000
gave us, you know, metaphorical hammers, you know, with these

918
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,559
stones and crystals, frequencies also kind of stuff. Metaphorically, that's

919
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:04,079
a hammer. He give us all a hammer to build

920
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:06,239
a beautiful house with. But with that same hammer in

921
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,880
the wrong hands, with the wrong motive, can use to

922
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
destroy and kill people too. So it's like we can't

923
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,679
be looking at the people that took the hammer and

924
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:18,320
done destructive things with it and say, oh, we need

925
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,320
to burn the hammers. The hammers are bad, you know

926
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,440
what I mean. It's a tool that was given to

927
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:27,880
us by God but misused by the enemy. That's once

928
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,280
again baby in bathwater situation. I believe. Yeah, well, I

929
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,159
guess before we let you go, Vic, I mean, like,

930
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,119
with all this in mind, and of course I don't

931
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:36,519
want you to give away the book on them to

932
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,000
go check the thing out, because that's like even with me,

933
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,239
I'm the Esau guy. You talked about you know, sleep

934
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,440
Prowlyssis you've been a sleep prowss this girl, I'm the

935
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:46,480
Esau guy now, which I love that. But I mean

936
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:49,039
there's there's more chapters in my book than just that

937
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,519
one song and dance there. But it's kind of like

938
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,039
with all this stuff that's kind of pushing you to

939
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:57,840
be like the Esau or the spirit of Esau, be

940
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,920
more like self reliant, you know, and see things yourself

941
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:03,920
instead of leaning in on God. But with with all

942
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,239
this stuff going on, uh, closing messages, you know, we

943
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,079
we learn this information, we find these things out, and

944
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,960
then you know the now what do we just keep

945
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,800
this up here for cool talking points? Uh? What's your

946
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advice and or warning to Christians when it comes to

947
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,880
this AI what to be looking for? How does it

948
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,840
apply words of wisdom? I mean, what to do with

949
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the info?

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Speaker 1: VICKI Yeah, absolutely. I was very careful in the book

951
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:36,199
not to tell people what to do because this is

952
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gray area. Now for some they are going to teetotal

953
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the whole thing. They're going to have a flip phone,

954
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or they're not going to have a phone at all.

955
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They're going to live off grid, They're they're not going

956
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to have a laptop like for for for whatever the

957
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spirit of God convicts you you need to do that.

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I'm not going to roll my eyes or mock any

959
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one on either end of the spectrum, because for those

960
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who've been called to teetotal the whole thing. If God

961
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called you to do that, you're obeying him. You're sacrificing

962
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for him, and you are turning your back on Babylon

963
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:17,079
to do that. And you are going to learn specific

964
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things and earn certain achievements and rewards for that. There's

965
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going to be other people all the way over here.

966
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There are going to be fully immersed in it. There

967
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might even be God fearing people working right in the

968
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belly of the beast, Silicon Valley, NASA. We can talk

969
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:39,679
all day along about our conspiracies and all the occult

970
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stuff and the rituals, but the fact is is Silicon

971
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:46,800
Valley and NASA allowed to have their Daniel in the

972
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midst of Babylon. Because if there can't be a man

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who fears God and preaches the Gospel to his coworkers

974
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and leads people to salvation in the middle of Silicon

975
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Valley or NASA, then Daniel never should have been brought

976
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to Babylon. That's why we love the story of Daniel

977
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and Shadrack and Meshak and abedna Go so much. They

978
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were the forerunners. They didn't just survive in Babylon by hiding.

979
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They were in the very upper levels of it, praying

980
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,639
and fasting and almost losing their lives. And one could

981
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say that the testimony of Shadrak, Mishak, Abednigo and Daniel

982
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:29,559
didn't just bring some Babylonians to the knowledge that Yahweh

983
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:32,000
was the one true God. But here we are thousands

984
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:34,440
of years later because it was made a matter of record,

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and every generation since then has marveled at those stories.

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So if you're over here and you've been called to

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teetotal it, do it for the glory of God. If

988
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you're over here and you are in it to win it,

989
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,320
and you are going to ride this wave for the

990
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,679
glory of God and be a martyr for this, do

991
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,480
it for the glory of God. And somewhere in between

992
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,239
all of those pendulum swings, justin is the average me

993
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,000
and you where we are going to probably buy necessity,

994
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,079
interact with artificial intelligence on a daily basis. We're doing

995
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:11,280
it right now most of us at work, you're not

996
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,039
even going to be able to fill out a time

997
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:16,639
card if you're not logging into something right. So for

998
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,599
the rest of us, we stay on board until it

999
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:24,320
becomes essential to walk the plank. And in the meantime

1000
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:29,840
we pray, we fast, and we apply first John for one.

1001
01:00:30,239 --> 01:00:34,000
We test every spirit, and when the spirit of God

1002
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:38,920
says get out of there, we move. We are like Lot.

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We are not like Lot's wife. When the spirit of

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,320
God says get out now, we flee in the middle

1005
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:50,039
of the night with the clothes on our back, and

1006
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:53,000
we turn our back on these stupid phones and computers

1007
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:58,400
and podcasts, and we live isolated in the wilderness, depending

1008
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,800
upon Him for rain and food. Okay, But if we

1009
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,159
are like Lot's wife and we flee but our heart

1010
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:08,840
is not in it. If we're like lots daughters who

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,679
made it all the way to the caves but then

1012
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,320
said there's not a man in the world, our life

1013
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,280
is over. Well, we're going to die here, virgins. We're

1014
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,920
never going to get married or have kids. It. If

1015
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:24,199
we flee to the wilderness and we have the heart

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01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,599
of Lot's wife or Lot's daughters, we will either like

1017
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:31,840
Lot's wife perish on the way, or like Lot's daughters,

1018
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,360
we will make decisions where the ripple effect of that

1019
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:42,079
decision will affect every generation beyond us. You look into

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,039
Israel and the things that happened to them because of

1021
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:51,280
the Moabites, who was the offspring of one of Lot's daughters.

1022
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:55,519
We actually, if we do not do the right thing,

1023
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,800
it might not just be us or our immediate family

1024
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,599
that's affected. We may actually be hurting the body of

1025
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:07,039
Christ in our generation or in the generations to come.

1026
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,599
There is a ripple effect to every time we hesitate,

1027
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:14,960
or we don't trust God, or we disobey. So we

1028
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:21,159
have got to steal ourselves away from these things that

1029
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,800
today are conveniences, but tomorrow could be nooses around our neck.

1030
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something I've seen some studies they did showing

1031
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,559
like IQ scores and attention spans, you know, all these

1032
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:39,679
other kind of things compared to twenty years ago versus today.

1033
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,320
And you'd think with all the modern advancements with AI

1034
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,239
and everything else, that we'd be getting smarter, we'd be

1035
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,440
more intelligent. Everything's going down and declining out of exponential right,

1036
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:55,239
because instead of using a tool, we are relying on

1037
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,760
that tool because it has out the answers. Why do

1038
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
I need to read a book and search and remember

1039
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,559
this or that? I can just type the question in

1040
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:05,480
on my little black mirror mirror mirrah on the wall

1041
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,599
and it'll tell me.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

1043
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:09,719
Speaker 2: But how many times have we top stuff in and

1044
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,760
be like, you know, what's this or that? And they

1045
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,159
tell you the answer and you're like, that's not the

1046
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,400
right answer. You're like, now that don't seem right to me.

1047
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,400
Da da da da da, I remember this. Oh yeah,

1048
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,199
my mistake. You're right. So I mean you can't trust

1049
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:24,760
these things. You can't. I mean, you can't rely on them.

1050
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:27,239
Use the tool. Don't rely on the tool, I guess

1051
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,000
would be my two cents of it.

1052
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Yep. And what's said justin is we all know this,

1053
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,199
but it feels so.

1054
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's by design too, to feel smart and

1055
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,440
have something stroke your ego every time you put in

1056
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:48,880
a prompt, you know, like, oh, that's such a great idea,

1057
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,639
You're so smart, you know. It's just like, okay, who

1058
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,679
doesn't like three ego stroke? You gotta be aware that

1059
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,239
flattery is the doorway to deception.

1060
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoever's writing that code sure has humanity

1061
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,440
figured out?

1062
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:06,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, Well, VICKI thank you so much. I'm

1063
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,480
going to keep you. I know we've only been on

1064
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:09,960
for about an hour and ten, but we had probably

1065
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,159
good twenty minutes of take issues before we got started,

1066
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:14,760
so I know you got all kinds of stuff you've

1067
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,360
got planned today. I'm sure everybody wants a piece of Viki.

1068
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,079
But before we leave, man, just let everybody know where

1069
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:23,119
they can find you best supports you the book. Can

1070
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:25,159
they get like a signed copy from you, like on

1071
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:28,000
a website or is it just strictly through Amazon? How

1072
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:29,400
do they go about getting these books?

1073
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Thank you so, Vickijoyanderson dot com is where you

1074
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:35,280
can find me. I actually don't even think I have

1075
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,280
the book on my own website yet, but it's on

1076
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,159
Amazon dot com. If you do want to sign copy,

1077
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,920
there's a couple of ways you can get that done.

1078
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:48,519
You can either email me directly at bjaauthor at gmail

1079
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,559
dot com, or you can come to one of the

1080
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,920
conferences that I am going to be at this year

1081
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:56,719
and meet me in person and buy a book there

1082
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:58,840
at the table and I'll sign it for you. I'll

1083
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,280
be at go Therefore, end of July. I'll be at

1084
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,639
here the Watchmen in Springfield, Missouri. In August, I will

1085
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:09,000
be at the Warrior Bride Conference in South Carolina mid August,

1086
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:14,760
and I will hopefully be at blurry Con for this year.

1087
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,280
This is my first blurry I've never been there, but

1088
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,679
I will have a table Lord Willing at blurry Con.

1089
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,079
I think that's usually in October.

1090
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: Nice, I have to check in with you on at

1091
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,639
one in South Carolina. That's that's pretty close to me.

1092
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:29,199
I might have to check that one out.

1093
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,199
Speaker 1: Awesome.

1094
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, guys, man, I hope you enjoyed that. Surely

1095
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,880
you did, because this is a very enjoyable woman, very

1096
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,360
knowledgeable woman. But be sure to check out her stuff

1097
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,599
and contribute to her work, show her some love, and

1098
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,960
just remember, guys, the difference between the known and the unknown.

1099
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,360
That is the journey, and that's why we're out here.

1100
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:50,760
So good journey. Ladies jail.

1101
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: To see us and calls beast by name. They say,

1102
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:05,639
tru will cost you.

1103
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: Friends, Confide, be somebody the same are has a softer face,

1104
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:15,800
swim fires. Let us be