Speaker 1: Welcome Friends, its podcast podcasting time show.
Speaker 2: Jacky again Bryan. They're talking down moving down back. I
Speaker 2: welcome to Movie Film.
Speaker 3: It is episode three thirty six, brought you by Mister
Speaker 3: Boy Productions. I'm Zaky you Son, I'm her with Brian Hall.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's going, Zachi, it is going, It is going.
Speaker 2: We're in February now.
Speaker 3: I know we are one twelfth of the way through
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and it sure feels like we are moving.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's hard to say. Honestly, it
Speaker 3: is moving very quickly. But part of that is just,
Speaker 3: you know, everything seems to be moving quicker, but also
Speaker 3: like the pace of news makes it feels like at
Speaker 3: times like things are going glacially.
Speaker 2: Hm.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: No, I think so, I think so so. I it
Speaker 2: is always a strange thing. It's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: build up, I feel like, to the holidays. Yeah, at
Speaker 2: the end of every year, you got Thanksgiving and then everything,
Speaker 2: you know, Christmas, New Year's whatever, and then January is
Speaker 2: sort of a weird like hitting a wall a bit
Speaker 2: and everything resets and you're like, oh, I guess we're
Speaker 2: starting up again. Early that's the feeling that I get sometimes.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, so I'm a little bit surprised that
Speaker 2: we're January's already in the rear view.
Speaker 3: We're in February, so we're done with our New Year's
Speaker 3: resolutions we have, we've failed at those, and now we're
Speaker 3: moving on.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: I did have a little bit of a like, well,
Speaker 2: I can eat this now. I mean, it's the holidays,
Speaker 2: and I'm still like thinking that way.
Speaker 3: You know, as you sit eating a tub of butter
Speaker 3: with a spoon, You're like, this, this should be fine,
Speaker 3: just a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I did kill a trader Joe's Tira
Speaker 2: Massou last night, which was pretty good. Did you do it?
Speaker 2: Did you do it joyfully or through tears? It is
Speaker 2: completely joyfully. I felt no shame. I felt nothing but
Speaker 2: joy in that case.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think you're just fine, take take it for me,
Speaker 3: the least healthy person, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's the Olympics have started, so I was
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sitting watching all these athletes and I'm
Speaker 2: just like eating my tear mis zoo on the couch
Speaker 2: in a bathroom.
Speaker 3: Did you, by the way, did you see that SNL
Speaker 3: sketch about the Winter Olympics and the three the different
Speaker 3: Apple Yes Yes, with Wicklineline as the loose. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: that was That was brilliant. You know.
Speaker 2: She is one of those people that I feel like
Speaker 2: she's struggled to find her footing a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: in her first season. Although she when she does her
Speaker 2: songs at the weekend update desk, I always think they're
Speaker 2: really funny, but in sketches it feels like they haven't
Speaker 2: quite forge.
Speaker 3: She was finding more of her niche this season, though.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that was one of the ones
Speaker 2: where I was like, that is perfect. That is perfect
Speaker 2: for her. Her personality is perfect for that, and I
Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious. I love what she didn't want
Speaker 2: to do. The joke is that she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: do the los That's right, because it's scary and dangerous,
Speaker 2: and so she keeps telling her coach that she's sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, no, no, no, I'm sick.
Speaker 2: I'm sick, and the coach like, no, no, no, just sit down,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 3: Alexander scars Guard, by the way, he was really funny.
Speaker 2: He was Yeah, he was a perfect home.
Speaker 3: He was a game for just about everything game and capable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you know he was able to play characters
Speaker 2: and be funny and know how to calibrate. And then
Speaker 2: his dad, you know, stelling scars Guard showing up was
Speaker 2: always like really fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was. I thought that was like,
Speaker 2: that was like the perfect episode you could hope for.
Speaker 2: That's like, you know what I mean, Like it's not
Speaker 2: like one of those Superstar episodes that's gonna go down
Speaker 2: in history, but it's like, this is if you could
Speaker 2: give me one of these each week, Like I think
Speaker 2: everybody would be pretty happy.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of Alexander Scar's Guard,
Speaker 3: I recently, like in the couple of months, I revisited
Speaker 3: the Legend of Tarzan.
Speaker 2: Oh, which I still haven't seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, you know, I was a little
Speaker 3: harsh on that movie.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I thought you would like recommended it to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do you hate me? I may.
Speaker 3: This whole show has been one very long bit where
Speaker 3: I'm just screwing with you.
Speaker 2: And it's finally coming together. Yeah. I think what I've said.
Speaker 3: What I said was like it's like a good weekday
Speaker 3: afternoon type movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I stand by that.
Speaker 3: But I went back and I read my initial review
Speaker 3: from ten years ago, and and I, you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like I was a little harsh because I was like,
Speaker 3: all this shows is that, you know, these characters like
Speaker 3: this don't really matter anymore. And I don't know, I
Speaker 3: think I was having a bad day. I guess that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It happens. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Will say, and I said this on the show before
Speaker 3: War that you know, the movie casts Samuel Jackson as
Speaker 3: a real life person.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I remember that.
Speaker 3: And and you know, a really impressive person, George Washington Williams,
Speaker 3: who is a you know, a scientist and a diplomat
Speaker 3: and just a really impressive person personality in American history.
Speaker 3: And and it's like the only way history can be
Speaker 3: depicted is as this as a supporting character in a
Speaker 3: Tarzan movie, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Just an average one at that and exactly.
Speaker 3: You know. But but having revisited relatively recently, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, this movie is fine. I think I think
Speaker 3: maybe it's about the right state of mind. But but
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. Good cast, scars Guard is good, Margot Robbie,
Speaker 3: Christoph Waltz. Sam Jackson like, you're gonna you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, there's enough in there to enjoy it. Jamon HUNTSU, Wow,
Speaker 3: it's pretty pretty stacked.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, And sometimes movies I feel like have
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure put on them when they're in
Speaker 2: theaters because it's like, well, is this worth leaving your
Speaker 2: house and plunking down eighteen dollars? And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: so you're you're measuring it against something specific in that moment.
Speaker 2: But then as time goes on and I am looking
Speaker 2: for something on a Saturday afternoon, well then that's perfect
Speaker 2: and you might appreciate it in a different way.
Speaker 3: In a different way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's funny. I wasn't going to bring
Speaker 2: this up, so I'll try to make it brief. But
Speaker 2: speaking of Samuel L. Jackson playing a real person in
Speaker 2: a fictional movie. So I I had a really bad
Speaker 2: headache the other day and it was, you know, seven PM,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I just want to put something on,
Speaker 2: but I don't want it to be anything I really
Speaker 2: want to watch. I just want something on while I
Speaker 2: take some Madville and try to chill out. And so
Speaker 2: I turned on I have Apple TV so I turned
Speaker 2: on the Apple TV and the trailer for fly Me
Speaker 2: to the Moon Oka started playing, which is an Apple
Speaker 2: movie with Channing, taj Scylet Johansson, and the plot is,
Speaker 2: you know, it's about the Neil Armstrong, the launch for
Speaker 2: the you know, send the First Man.
Speaker 3: To the Moon.
Speaker 2: But the plot is, you know, the government is nervous
Speaker 2: that if things don't work out, they can't let the
Speaker 2: world see that the United States didn't successfully make it.
Speaker 2: So as a backup plan, they get this warehouse and
Speaker 2: hire a director and build a moon set so they
Speaker 2: can fake the moon landing if they need to, and
Speaker 2: broadcast that instead so the world will think that the
Speaker 2: US succeeded. Right now, I'd only seen the trailers, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I, you know, it tries to look
Speaker 2: like this fizzy sixties kind of romantic kind of thing
Speaker 2: between Tatum and Scarlett Johansson, and I was like, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: let's do this now. I I think what bothered me
Speaker 2: about it was I didn't know what was true and
Speaker 2: what wasn't okay, And so part of me thought that
Speaker 2: maybe this actually happened because the movie was presenting fact
Speaker 2: with this a certain tone and this I guess fiction
Speaker 2: with the same tone, and so you know, you think
Speaker 2: of something like Inglorious Bastard's which spoiler for that movie.
Speaker 2: You know, they kill Hitler at the end, you know,
Speaker 2: our heroes. And I remember seeing it in the theater
Speaker 2: and just laughing with glee because it was so funny
Speaker 2: and audacious and ridiculous. And I'm in a ridiculous movie, right,
Speaker 2: so I can continue to go with the ridiculousness right
Speaker 2: right right. And with this one, I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: so is this character real? Is she? Wait? Did this? So?
Speaker 3: Wait? This?
Speaker 2: This does feel like kind of far fit hold on,
Speaker 2: And I gotta admit it was getting on my nerves
Speaker 2: interesting the fact that I didn't know if it was
Speaker 2: true or not. And at the end, they have this
Speaker 2: whole thing where they like disable the camera that's going
Speaker 2: to be on the module on the Moon just to
Speaker 2: ensure that the fake moon landing has shown instead. So
Speaker 2: Scarlett Johanson's character recruits these two NASA scientists right before
Speaker 2: launch to go because they need a part from a
Speaker 2: tube television to repair this TV. But they go to
Speaker 2: the shop, but the shop is closed because everyone's watching
Speaker 2: the launch, the rocket launch, So they take a garbage
Speaker 2: can and throw it through the window and steal a
Speaker 2: tube television and then these cops show up and are
Speaker 2: going to arrest them, but she's such a smooth talker
Speaker 2: that she talks to police into giving them a police
Speaker 2: escort back to NASA so they can get the part
Speaker 2: under the ship on time. And I was like, Okay, wait,
Speaker 2: now I'm really annoyed because like, is this mait is
Speaker 2: this real or not? Like if this is goofy and
Speaker 2: fun and made up and like a fun fiction happening
Speaker 2: in the background of something real, right, then that's cool.
Speaker 2: But we're also dealing with like the real guy who
Speaker 2: called out the launch, played by Tatum. So I was like,
Speaker 2: this is confusing, Like I don't I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: something about it just irked me as I was going
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, interesting, Okay.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so speaking of like real life thing and fictional things,
Speaker 2: and like it's just.
Speaker 3: When when you mix it together, it becomes kind of
Speaker 3: a hodgepodge.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, like maybe take it a notch
Speaker 2: up in the silliness or something.
Speaker 3: Right so that it's more it's like nobody's gonna watch
Speaker 3: that that that Jerry Seinfeld pop tarts movie. Right, well, period,
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna watch that Jerry Seinfeld pop tarts movie. Period. No,
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna watch it Comma and think it's it's real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a man amazing comp that I just completely forgot existed.
Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean that one went pretty silly, right, But I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. Maybe I was in the
Speaker 2: wrong mood. I like I said, I had a very
Speaker 2: bad headache.
Speaker 3: Maybe a legend of tarzan is is what what you
Speaker 3: should tune in for next time?
Speaker 2: You know what? That is exactly what I should have
Speaker 2: watched instead.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well what else? What else have you seen lately?
Speaker 2: You know, it's seem quite a bit So I'll just
Speaker 2: I'll rattle them off kind of quick. But I want
Speaker 2: to ask, did you watch the I didn't put this
Speaker 2: in the list, but did you see the Muppet Show
Speaker 2: revival thing on Disney Plus?
Speaker 3: Oh? Dude, I want to I had planned to watch
Speaker 3: it last night, but life got in the way. But
Speaker 3: I'm hearing good things.
Speaker 2: Executive produced by Seth Rogan. Sabrina Carpenter is the guest star.
Speaker 3: The One Thing I'll say, and this is just me.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you've noticed this, But doesn't it seem like
Speaker 3: Kermit's voice is a little off?
Speaker 2: You know, I had not heard Apparently this guy has
Speaker 2: been doing the voice for almost ten years now. Really,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm reading, because I'm seeing a lot of
Speaker 2: posts about people thrown off by the voice. I was
Speaker 2: thrown off. Okay, good, so I'm not alone in this. Okay,
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, I've not heard this guy.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch that ABC series The Muppets, and I
Speaker 2: guess he did that one. It's complicated because he is
Speaker 2: he doing a bad job.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, no, it just doesn't sound like Jim Henson exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it did make me go back and
Speaker 2: look at the I don't have the name in front
Speaker 2: of me, but the person who took over for a
Speaker 2: really long time afterwards, I was kind of curious because
Speaker 2: I remember him sounding different too, of course inevitably, but
Speaker 2: when you do hear him, you're like, wow, he is
Speaker 2: pretty darn close and even just the spirit of Kermit,
Speaker 2: like he really nailed nailed that. And this guy does
Speaker 2: sound quite a bit different, and it takes you have
Speaker 2: to make a choice in your mind to go with it.
Speaker 2: I feel like, however, he sings Islands in the Stream
Speaker 2: with Sabrina Carpenter, and I was like, well, he's got
Speaker 2: a good voice, and I mean, that's a tricky thing
Speaker 2: when you're doing a voice and having to sing in
Speaker 2: that voice that isn't yours. See I saw.
Speaker 3: I didn't see clips from it. I saw Kermit on
Speaker 3: The Kimmel Show.
Speaker 2: Okay, and this too, by the way.
Speaker 3: I kind of love that, Like, at some point in
Speaker 3: the distant past, it was decided that we will treat
Speaker 3: the Muppets as if they are real, and just from now,
Speaker 3: from then until the end of time, everyone has just
Speaker 3: agreed that that's how it will be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3: It's this tacit understanding. It's like, no, no, that's Kermit,
Speaker 3: and we just you know, ignore the man underneath, you
Speaker 3: know whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that we have kept that tradition alive.
Speaker 3: It's been you know, more than fifty years. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: this is what we do.
Speaker 2: They're real.
Speaker 3: The Muppets are real. You shut the hell up. They're real,
Speaker 3: right right, We've just all decided that. But anyway, so
Speaker 3: you had Kermit on with Kimmel, and that's when I
Speaker 3: was like, huh, A little sounds a little different, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, not not not worse, not worse than our
Speaker 3: old froggy Yep, just different. Yep. Our mantra man ar mantra,
Speaker 3: Joe PESHI leath the weapon for we live by it.
Speaker 2: I mean truly, I think about it a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's super fun. It's not anything unexpected. It's just
Speaker 2: a new episode of the Muppet Show and in the
Speaker 2: modern age with a modern star. And I think that
Speaker 2: to me, that's that feels right. It feels nice, it's
Speaker 2: comfort comfortable. I'm looking forward to watching it and hopefully
Speaker 2: this weekend. Yeah, and then also real fast, I'll say.
Speaker 2: Jeded Appatow did another profile documentary, this time with mel Brooks.
Speaker 2: I think it's called The ninety nine year Old Man.
Speaker 2: It's on HBO HBO Max. Two parts. I love that
Speaker 2: they don't feel like, Okay, we got to make this
Speaker 2: just two hours, you know, when we're profiling someone with
Speaker 2: such a long, prolific career. It's two parts and they're
Speaker 2: both feature length. But I really enjoyed it. I like
Speaker 2: mel Brooks and you I didn't know a lot about
Speaker 2: his life or his beginnings. So I recommend that to
Speaker 2: anyone who's interested.
Speaker 3: Did you I can't remember if we talked about did
Speaker 3: you see the Chevy Chase documentary? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that was a CNN thing, right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be. It should be streaming now.
Speaker 3: I think, uh, you know, is it worth it? Well,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. All I know I saw I
Speaker 3: saw folks talking about it online. I saw one thing
Speaker 3: that made me laugh where it's like I remember that
Speaker 3: John Candy documentary where everybody was just lining up to
Speaker 3: tell you how much they loved him and what a
Speaker 3: great person he was. Well, this isn't that right, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I had heard about it was
Speaker 2: that it existed, and then a lot of people refused
Speaker 2: to be in it, you.
Speaker 3: Know Chevy's I recently, in the last few months, I
Speaker 3: rewatched Saturday Night, you know, the movie Saturday Night, and
Speaker 3: you have that scene where young, you know, upstart Chevy
Speaker 3: Chase is is telling Milton Burrele what a piece of
Speaker 3: shit he is, right, yeah, And I'm like, man, you
Speaker 3: know you live long enough and you know you just oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what, you know, you either die the hero
Speaker 3: you live long enough to become the villain. Wow.
Speaker 2: That is yeah, strangely prophetic that that scene.
Speaker 3: Right, And it made me think I was like, did
Speaker 3: they They had to have known what they were doing
Speaker 3: with that scene, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or not prophetic, but like like a funny vision of
Speaker 2: things that could be.
Speaker 3: Like like they had to they had to have known,
Speaker 3: like this is how it's going to read, you know.
Speaker 2: Which's just so sad because you know, just last night
Speaker 2: I was with my brother and his wife and I
Speaker 2: was recommending the John Candy thing and and they're like,
Speaker 2: is it good? And I was like yes, I'm like no,
Speaker 2: Look does it really dig into the details of his life?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, but it's like hanging out with a bunch
Speaker 2: of people who knew him reminiscing and they all loved him.
Speaker 2: They all had nice things to say, and that's for
Speaker 2: me time well spent. Yeah, and it really says something
Speaker 2: about the man if that many people have all have
Speaker 2: nice things to say, and like, what a lovely tribute
Speaker 2: to that person. And it just makes me sad with
Speaker 2: Chevy Chase because he's very talented, he's very very funny,
Speaker 2: but not a lot of people have nice things to say,
Speaker 2: and that's too bad.
Speaker 3: Look, you piss off enough people on your way up,
Speaker 3: you're gonna pass them on the way down and nobody's
Speaker 3: going to reach their hand out to grab you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's just that's that's a lesson everybody should should internalize
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe maybe people have. And that goes to
Speaker 2: what we were talking about with Oh sorry, this was
Speaker 2: in our bonus episode that you'll be able to find
Speaker 2: over at the Patreon page. But we get into late
Speaker 2: night talk show hosts and how it seems, you know,
Speaker 2: there used to be more rivalries and cutthroat attitudes toward
Speaker 2: one another in the past, but it's seems like now
Speaker 2: it's interesting how they have become like a fraternity or
Speaker 2: a brotherhood together, you know. Yeah, and maybe that's just
Speaker 2: I don't know that that just seems to be what
Speaker 2: what what people are like more these days than what
Speaker 2: they used to be.
Speaker 3: Well it is, you know, it's like in that that
Speaker 3: the Late Shift, the movie, you know, the book slash movie.
Speaker 2: You know you've seen it, right, yeah, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and the.
Speaker 3: Whole thing about Kathy Bates's character. She's Jay Leno's manager, right,
Speaker 3: And the whole thing is like, if you come on
Speaker 3: the Tonight Show, you can't appear on The Letterman Show
Speaker 3: or Our Senni or whatever, you know, and like that's
Speaker 3: that's just unsustainable in today's media economy. Yeah, because you
Speaker 3: get this press to her and then they're everywhere, and
Speaker 3: that's just what it is, you know. So it's just
Speaker 3: the whole, the whole, the whole ecosystem has changed, you know. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: what else have you seen?
Speaker 2: Well, le's just talk about two things real quick here.
Speaker 2: Oh well, actually I'm gonna sneak one in here. The Burbs.
Speaker 2: I rewatched The burbsh nice, the nineteen eighty nine Tom
Speaker 2: Hanks Joe Dante movie, in anticipation of the series, Yep,
Speaker 2: The Urbs, which is going to be debuting on Peacock
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday. I'm very curious about that. And you know,
Speaker 2: I know you're you're a fan. In r Pal, Sean
Speaker 2: Coyle is a huge fan of Big Petty and I
Speaker 2: don't remember how, but somehow he had two Blu rays
Speaker 2: of it, so he gave me one and i'd been
Speaker 2: I had it on my shelf, like my two watch shelf,
Speaker 2: and so I popped it in.
Speaker 3: Blue ray or DVD, Blu ray. Wow, Okay, because and.
Speaker 2: Man, what a fun friggin' movie Like that is just
Speaker 2: just a delightful goof of a movie, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been maybe twenty years since I've revisited it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's more a collection
Speaker 2: of funny ideas than it is a great movie as
Speaker 2: a whole, right, But those fun any moments are very funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like the tone is just so I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sensing the same tone from the trailers for
Speaker 2: the Burbs series. There's yeah, like there's just such a
Speaker 2: fun I mean, right down to the scary pipe orbit
Speaker 2: organ music that that you know, punches in over like
Speaker 2: these funny little bits of darkness juxtaposed in the suburbs,
Speaker 2: and just all the neighbors like who lives in that house? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard they murdered a guy, you know, and just
Speaker 2: like all that, and then they become like kind of
Speaker 2: crazed themselves trying to get to the bottom of what's
Speaker 2: really going on in that house, and you get like
Speaker 2: eighties manic energy. Tom Hanks.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, that's that's Tom Hanks, like
Speaker 3: on the cusp of of you know, the greatest living
Speaker 3: actor Tom Hanks. Yes, like he's still straddling uh, you know,
Speaker 3: a bachelor party and yeah, you know Sleepless and Seattle.
Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of in the middle there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just really fun. And so I enjoyed watching.
Speaker 2: It's like ninety minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to give her a look.
Speaker 2: It's so fun anyway. But the two newer things I
Speaker 2: watched that I'll mention real quick is you know, with
Speaker 2: Award season, you and I get a handful of links sometimes,
Speaker 2: and so there's some movies I get put on my
Speaker 2: radar that I hadn't really been aware of. And one
Speaker 2: of them for me was this movie called Secret Mall Apartment.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it on Netflix?
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix now. Yeah, So I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna was watching it this past week. You were watching,
Speaker 3: I'm gonnas not?
Speaker 2: I Oh, oh okay, well would she Well, I'll say
Speaker 2: real quick to plot and it's true story documentary. In
Speaker 2: two thousand and three, eight Rhode Islanders created a secret
Speaker 2: apartment inside a busy mall and lived there for four years.
Speaker 2: So what does she think. I'm curious she liked it.
Speaker 3: She was fascinated by it.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you know, I really enjoyed it. It's a
Speaker 2: bit of a trifle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I could imagine some people watching this and going and right,
Speaker 2: you know, but I I enjoyed the spirit of this.
Speaker 2: It just these I wouldn't even call them Mary pranksters.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are these this group of artists. It
Speaker 2: does get into that location at the time, and you know,
Speaker 2: they lived in this area that basically the city booted
Speaker 2: them out of so they could turn it into a
Speaker 2: shopping area, and they were feeling, you know, disenfranchised and
Speaker 2: where can we live that we can afford? And they
Speaker 2: also have these real artistic spirits, okay, and so it
Speaker 2: just occurred to them, well they will Basically they explored
Speaker 2: them all because they as it was being built, one
Speaker 2: of them noticed like, what would they possibly put in
Speaker 2: that space over there? It feels like it'd be this
Speaker 2: empty space. So as a lark, they go in there.
Speaker 2: They discover this empty space and they're like, what if
Speaker 2: we put a couch in here?
Speaker 3: And out?
Speaker 2: And they're like, what if we bought a table in
Speaker 2: a television and we could play video games, and let's
Speaker 2: get a China hutch, you know, and then they start
Speaker 2: getting dishware, and then they basically hang out and live
Speaker 2: there and it becomes this kind of home, you know,
Speaker 2: this alternate universe where they get to exist and make
Speaker 2: it their own space. And I don't know, I found
Speaker 2: myself the next day I felt thinking about it. I
Speaker 2: felt this sort of strange longing inside myself for like
Speaker 2: that feeling of freedom and like mischief, you know that
Speaker 2: you have at a certain time of your life, you know,
Speaker 2: with your friends and you go out and do these
Speaker 2: kind of crazy things. And I realized that the movie
Speaker 2: put that feeling inside of me. So I feel like
Speaker 2: the movie did a great job of capturing the playful
Speaker 2: spirit of what they were doing.
Speaker 3: Right. If this is your way of asking me to
Speaker 3: join you in building a secret mall apartment, buddy, I'm
Speaker 3: already there. Man, let's get it.
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm in. You had me at secret. Oh you
Speaker 2: want to share a secret. But yeah, I just I
Speaker 2: thought it was nice, And you know, it's it also
Speaker 2: gets into them as artists, and we get to see
Speaker 2: during that moment, you know, a couple of years post
Speaker 2: nine to eleven and they go out and they do
Speaker 2: these projects which are not commissioned, so they're basically going
Speaker 2: out on the street and they do this thing with tape,
Speaker 2: like tape art, and they had this thing where they
Speaker 2: wanted to create silhouettes that represented every single person who
Speaker 2: died in nine to eleven. Wow, and yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: some people like it, and other people are like, get
Speaker 2: the hell away from my property. But they're just not
Speaker 2: Mary pranksters but just Marry artists. Yeah, just going out
Speaker 2: and trying to put some artistic good into the world.
Speaker 2: And some people might find that delightful. Some people might
Speaker 2: find it kind of annoying. I don't know. But and again,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day when it ends, you
Speaker 2: might feel a little bit like, okay, and what about it.
Speaker 2: But like for me, I just thought they did a
Speaker 2: good job of capturing the spirit of what those guys
Speaker 2: were trying to do and what that apartment represented to them,
Speaker 2: and it made me feel something and I thought it
Speaker 2: was delightful. So I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Secret Mall Apartment.
Speaker 2: It's streaming on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Well, based on the level of chaos in my house
Speaker 3: last night when I came home. Secret Mall apartment sounds
Speaker 3: pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, doesn't that actually sound kind of nice?
Speaker 3: Kind of I got six kids, Secret mall apartment, Sign
Speaker 3: me up.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a moment where they have this thing
Speaker 2: and there, you know, this place, and a ladder leads
Speaker 2: to it, and they're getting worried that they might get caught.
Speaker 2: So they're like, you know what we need to do.
Speaker 2: We need to build a wall. So they buy hundreds
Speaker 2: of cinder blocks and they like, build this wall. Know
Speaker 2: what I love about this?
Speaker 3: This is like Dawn of the Dead minus the zombies,
Speaker 3: right right right? You know, yeah, it's I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's it's cute, not so cute.
Speaker 2: I watched a movie called If I had legs, I
Speaker 2: would kick you. Oh wow, And are you familiar with
Speaker 2: this movie?
Speaker 3: This is Rose Byrne, right, yes, and Conan and Conan O'Brien, Yes,
Speaker 3: so I was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Rose Byrne, and I was very
Speaker 2: curious to see Conan actually acting in a movie. But
Speaker 2: I had heard that this movie was a little intense,
Speaker 2: and so this is a drama. This is very much
Speaker 2: a drama. I had heard it called uncut Gems for Moms,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's exactly right, but the
Speaker 2: summary is, while trying to manage her own life and career,
Speaker 2: a woman on the verge of a breakdown must cope
Speaker 2: with her daughter's illness, my absent husband, a missing person,
Speaker 2: and an unusual relationship with her therapist. And Conan is
Speaker 2: the therapist. Conan is the therapist, and the daughter you
Speaker 2: never see interesting. So basically the camera stays on Rose
Speaker 2: Burn for the majority of the story. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know other characters as well, but you're always hearing her
Speaker 2: daughter off camera. I see does she sounds like, wow,
Speaker 2: that would be really funny, but no. But basically, and
Speaker 2: it's just, yeah, it's exactly you know what I just read.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just her trying to navigate. Basically, there's
Speaker 2: this hole that appears in her ceiling, you know, like
Speaker 2: through bad plumbing or whatever, and so she has to
Speaker 2: leave and go live in a motel and there's the
Speaker 2: stress of that. And the daughter has a health condition
Speaker 2: where she has like an ivy kind of thing constantly
Speaker 2: having to feed nutrients into her, and so there's this
Speaker 2: constant beeping from that machine and in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night if she forgets to put the stuff in
Speaker 2: there on alarmoll go off and she's got to deal
Speaker 2: with the whole in the apartment. And yeah, she has
Speaker 2: like a patient that she's seeing who I'll just say
Speaker 2: makes her life very stressful. And it's just stressor after
Speaker 2: stressor after stressor. And it's funny because Rose Byrne is
Speaker 2: incredible in this movie. I mean, for my money, she's
Speaker 2: gonna win Best Actress for really, yes, because she's she's
Speaker 2: doing something. She's doing a lot. I mean, she's playing
Speaker 2: a sympathetic mother but also a very stressed out just person, mother, person, wife,
Speaker 2: and she's doing very irresponsible things. But and we're aware
Speaker 2: of it, but we're also I don't think she ever
Speaker 2: loses us, you know what I mean, Like we're following
Speaker 2: her as she makes maybe increasingly sort of confusing decisions.
Speaker 2: And when I say confusing, what's interesting about this movie
Speaker 2: is it plays as a bit of a fever dream, gotcha,
Speaker 2: you know, where sometimes like occasionally she'll hallucinate a little
Speaker 2: bit and we're like, is she dreaming right now?
Speaker 3: Or And so I mean it sounds similar to the
Speaker 3: movie we're discussing later.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, yeah, And so I mean, and for
Speaker 2: all these reasons I just said, I don't know that
Speaker 2: I would just blindly recommend this movie to anyone like you.
Speaker 2: You certainly have to be in the right mood, because
Speaker 2: this is a very stressful movie and you're watching someone
Speaker 2: be stressed out for two hours and she's filled with
Speaker 2: dread and despair. But at the same time, it is
Speaker 2: a remarkable performance and the craft is kind of amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you think we talk about this like
Speaker 2: it's every movie is made with the same instruments. You
Speaker 2: have a camera and a boom mic, you know, in
Speaker 2: the lights, and it's kind of amazing when they when
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. And then you watch something like this
Speaker 2: that feel so dreamlike and and it's the same instruments,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, how did she capture that
Speaker 2: sort of dreamy nature of this but also the stressful
Speaker 2: nature of it? And it's the craft on display here
Speaker 2: is amazing. The performance is amazing. And so I think
Speaker 2: if you're interested in those things, like if you're in
Speaker 2: the right mood and you want to see something that
Speaker 2: is well done and you're willing to go on this
Speaker 2: harrowing ride I think those people will find a lot
Speaker 2: to appreciate in this movie. But like I said, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't just blind recommend it for a Friday night gotcha,
Speaker 2: And real quick, I'm mean I have to comment on
Speaker 2: Corner O'Brien. I got admit it was a little distracting
Speaker 2: for me, because how could it not be, you know,
Speaker 2: thirty years of seeing this guy do like a string dance,
Speaker 2: you know, and being a goofball and then suddenly he's
Speaker 2: playing a very straight, kind of unpleasant character.
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, And so I.
Speaker 2: Will admit it took me a second. I mean, right now,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of like Dick Cavitt appearing in Beatleed Juice,
Speaker 2: you know, where it's like somebody, or like.
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Leary in Marty Supreme.
Speaker 2: There you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. So you're like, well,
Speaker 2: that's Dick Cavitt, that's you know, such and such, that's what.
Speaker 2: And so I did have like, all that's Conan, Like okay, Brian,
Speaker 2: turn it off, and just he's not Conan, He's this character.
Speaker 2: He did take me a minute, but I do think
Speaker 2: he does a good job and he is playing kind
Speaker 2: of a jerk in these scenes. Opposite Rose Burne where
Speaker 2: she is really acting okay, and so it's it's but
Speaker 2: she doesn't blow him off with the screen. No, no,
Speaker 2: So I like I said, I mean, the performances are amazing.
Speaker 2: I was really taken with the craft of the movie. Shoot,
Speaker 2: I don't have it from me. Mary Bronstein, I think
Speaker 2: her name is, who wrote and directed it. Yeah. Mary
Speaker 2: Bronstein really did a great job of capturing a tone
Speaker 2: in a mood and a dreamlike, stressful, dream like experience
Speaker 2: that this woman is just drifting through. So if in
Speaker 2: the mood and that sounds like something you might appreciate,
Speaker 2: then I would recommend it.
Speaker 3: Well there we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how about yourself? What you been watching?
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't seen a ton, but I did see
Speaker 3: our our thing that we're going to be talking about
Speaker 3: this week. So we'll talk about that in just a
Speaker 3: little bit. Perfect In the meantime, we do have some
Speaker 3: listener letters, Brian.
Speaker 2: I believe you have been looking for me. Eighteen thousands,
Speaker 2: all addressed.
Speaker 3: You've got mail, alrighty, So here is an email we
Speaker 3: got from Adam Ox and this is that movie Film
Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com. And he says, recently you
Speaker 3: guys were discussing how Stallone was never able to break
Speaker 3: into comedic roles in the same way Arnold did. And
Speaker 3: I agree that's mostly true. Do you remember when when
Speaker 3: when that was Brian when we I can't remember it
Speaker 3: was that. That was just one of our tangent probably.
Speaker 2: Right, I know I was Was that a commentary or
Speaker 2: was that an episode? I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it all kind of blurs the other I think
Speaker 3: it was me.
Speaker 2: Why were we talking about Stallone?
Speaker 3: Right? Why wouldn't we be talking about I don't remember
Speaker 3: how that came out? Yeah? Same it we were on
Speaker 3: a hold on.
Speaker 2: It was it was?
Speaker 3: It was we were talking about rhyan Stone, yes, because
Speaker 3: I was talking about the song Drinkenstein.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: Uh just sung in the dulcet tones of the Italian stallion,
Speaker 3: right right. I don't remember how we got there anyway,
Speaker 3: Adam says, But when Zaki dismissively said that the nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety one movie Oscar was not good, that, sir, I
Speaker 3: cannot stand for I may be the only I know
Speaker 3: that son of a bitch Zachie.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm Zaki.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 2: He's talking about me. Yeah, I hip that guy. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: I may be the only person who defends that movie,
Speaker 3: but damn it defended. I will stallone actually was pretty
Speaker 3: good as a gangster trying to go straight, and of
Speaker 3: course circumstances arise to test that resolve. But really the
Speaker 3: key is the amazing supporting cast, including a pre my
Speaker 3: cousin Vinnie Marissa Tomei the start of my lifelong crush
Speaker 3: on her. Oscar is a worthy pairing for a double
Speaker 3: feature with Clue. Both movies have an ensemble cast of
Speaker 3: quirky characters, and most of the plot takes place in
Speaker 3: a single location that makes them feel like they could
Speaker 3: be translated to a stage production without too much effort.
Speaker 3: I also would like to point out that while the
Speaker 3: movie didn't get great reviews, Ciskel and Ebert gave it
Speaker 3: two thumbs up, so hopefully that would entice you to
Speaker 3: give it another chance, if for no other reason than
Speaker 3: to spend one hundred and nine minutes saying, Hey, it's
Speaker 3: that guy at the cast. I'm going to cross my
Speaker 3: fingers but not hold my brint that. I'll hear you
Speaker 3: guys raving about it in a future episode. Best wishes,
Speaker 3: as always, Adam.
Speaker 2: I love that he knows like how to entice us.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, ciskel Neemer gave a two thumbs up.
Speaker 3: So I like that he knows this well enough to
Speaker 3: be like, but not hold my breath because like we said, right,
Speaker 3: that's the type of thing my kids do. So okay,
Speaker 3: So I should say I don't remember exactly what I said. However,
Speaker 3: the last time I saw Oscar was in the nineties,
Speaker 3: and in the early part of the nineties at that,
Speaker 3: so I don't have a strong memory. So if what
Speaker 3: I should have said was it did not do well,
Speaker 3: rather than specifically speak to the quality of the movie, which,
Speaker 3: being honest, it's just it's been too long. So I'm
Speaker 3: I don't remember liking it very much when I saw it,
Speaker 3: but I mean that it's been a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I remember about it when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, and I was always loved movies, and
Speaker 2: so at the video store they'd have like a little
Speaker 2: magazine booklet type of thing about the movies that were
Speaker 2: going to come out next month, and so i'd always
Speaker 2: take it because I like thumbing through it and looking
Speaker 2: at the movie posters, and I remember the poster of
Speaker 2: stallone hanging from a clock.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's like my only reference for this movie. And I
Speaker 2: got to say, knowing that it's you know, just a
Speaker 2: little over ninety minutes and Adam's recommendation, I wish I
Speaker 2: had had this for my headache night. There you have
Speaker 2: been a perfect like, Oh, let's just throw the song.
Speaker 2: See what it is. It's probably light.
Speaker 3: And easy, and I could see myself actually getting to this,
Speaker 3: which probably all the people who have recommended newer things
Speaker 3: to me recently are like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Like, but yeah, I could see myself being in the
Speaker 2: mood for this one night.
Speaker 3: You have to tackle you have to tackle your recommendations chronologically,
Speaker 3: so by this one comes first.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm googling it because I want to see
Speaker 2: how to stream this. Oh it's it's directed by John Landis.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that a noted piece of shit, John
Speaker 2: Landon just picturing him on a tree. I know, Like,
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that this week, and it has a
Speaker 2: twelve percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3: I'm twelve person.
Speaker 2: Just for sake of argument, we we will bring our
Speaker 2: own opinions to the table after we check it out.
Speaker 2: But if we check it out, but twelve percent? Whoof
Speaker 2: But you know what, Adam, I believe you. What does
Speaker 2: he look up?
Speaker 3: Stopper? My mom will shoot? What does that have on
Speaker 3: rotten tomatoes?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see stop orm comes up right away, star
Speaker 2: seventeen percent. So that's better than oscar.
Speaker 3: Yes, fascinating?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, interesting?
Speaker 3: Okay hmm all right, well there you go. There's your
Speaker 3: double features and Stopper. My mom willt shoot. We will
Speaker 3: take that under advisement, Adam, Yes, cause because because uh
Speaker 3: because we love you that much. M all right. Here's
Speaker 3: a comment we got on YouTube, and this from Luke's
Speaker 3: mail twenty four This is on our commentary track for
Speaker 3: Robinhood Prince of Thieves. Oh wow, okay, which you may
Speaker 3: recall we recorded that in twenty eighteen. Oh wow, right,
Speaker 3: it was right around when when that that that no
Speaker 3: Joel not Joel editing Taron Edgerton version. Remember that. At
Speaker 3: the risk of saying oh wow three times in less
Speaker 3: than a minute, oh wow, I think it's warranted. Frankly,
Speaker 3: this is a triple wow. Yeah, he says, Isazachi. It's
Speaker 3: Luke from eight years into the future. I can tell
Speaker 3: you that shockingly, the Tarran Edgerton Robin Hood has not
Speaker 3: had a sequel and has not become a cult classic.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, by the way, when he said eighteen, it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago. And then when he
Speaker 2: said eight years that was eight years ago. It's almost
Speaker 2: a decade ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, let's go what is going on. I'd
Speaker 3: be I'm I'm kind of horrified to go back and
Speaker 3: dip into some of those like super old commentary tracks
Speaker 3: and see what kind of weird, horribly not aged at
Speaker 3: all well things we said.
Speaker 2: You know, And yeah, I'd be terrified, not just for that,
Speaker 2: but I don't know, it'd be hard to hear eight
Speaker 2: years ago. Me. I feel like it'd be strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, come to think of it, I think
Speaker 3: that film's existence has been erased from history. But in
Speaker 3: regards to Robinhood Prince of Thieves, my dad worked on
Speaker 3: a bit of the merchandise from the movie, so it
Speaker 3: has great message for me. I got four free showings
Speaker 3: with my brother and we loved it. One thing that
Speaker 3: has not come out, which he told us back then,
Speaker 3: was that, prior to Brian Blessed being cast, he played
Speaker 3: Lord Locksley. You may remember Sean Connery was considered to
Speaker 3: play Robin's father first, but then the timing didn't add
Speaker 3: up with whatever else he was doing, so all that
Speaker 3: could be done was the cameo with him playing King
Speaker 3: Richard late in the shoot. Speaking of Connore in regards
Speaker 3: to what you were saying about the darker original ending
Speaker 3: of the tale about Robin Hood, have you ever seen
Speaker 3: Conrie's Robin and Mary and from the seventies. Personally, I
Speaker 3: found it depressing as all hell, but it is worth
Speaker 3: the look just to see that ending and to watch
Speaker 3: them square off against Robert Shaw again. Robin and Marion
Speaker 3: is good. Have you seen it? No? Yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's that's to me, that's kind of the quintessential hero
Speaker 3: in Twilight story, you know, huh? Like, did we talk
Speaker 3: about the nude the Death of Robinhood the movie?
Speaker 2: I was literally googling it to see what the title
Speaker 2: was because it was making Yes, I know, we haven't
Speaker 2: talked about it with Hugh Jackman. Yeah, coming out this
Speaker 2: year and it's like a a twenty fourth thing yet
Speaker 2: playing an older aged Robin Hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like the story you knew is wrong,
Speaker 3: Like Robin Hood was actually a bad guy or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hey, if ever we needed a reason to
Speaker 3: do a commentary for the Taron Edgerton Robin Hood.
Speaker 2: You know what, Honestly, I remember when that came out.
Speaker 2: I had no interest. Yeah, but something about time, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, with the Tarzan thing too, I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: like a fun when I don't know what to watch
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, Like, why not let's watch a
Speaker 2: Let's watch a Robin.
Speaker 3: Hood that movie. I was the only person in the theater. Really,
Speaker 3: I remember that very distinctly.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: He goes on in regards to the extended edition of
Speaker 3: Robinhood Prince of Thieves. You should listen to the audio
Speaker 3: commentary by Kevin Costner and Kevin Reynolds, which is pretty entertaining.
Speaker 3: It's not them just like throwing shit at each other.
Speaker 3: Them too, they're like the Hatfields McCoy's right, Yeah, which
Speaker 3: is ironic because Kevin Reynolds directed Kevin Costner in The Hatfields.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just gooda. That's why I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's really good.
Speaker 3: Let's see. Reynolds is going for a slightly more gritty
Speaker 3: fairy tale and the funniest thing is when Costner trashes
Speaker 3: his own accent, saying, listen to me, Kevin, just listen
Speaker 3: to me. Oh Kevin, we did uh, and Reynolds responds
Speaker 3: to something like, well, look at the box office. I
Speaker 3: should have told you people were fine with it. And
Speaker 3: it has been years now. I would really like to
Speaker 3: listen to that that commentary. Yeah, yeah, I've got the
Speaker 3: I've got the I've got the movie on four K.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so I haven't checked. I'm pretty sure the
Speaker 3: commentary is on there. That's the thing, man, Say what
Speaker 3: you will about these movies. I got Water Worlled on
Speaker 3: four K, I got I got Prince of Thieves on
Speaker 3: four K. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is like a good update because you had mentioned
Speaker 2: that you were starting to investigate in physical media, So yeah,
Speaker 2: what what have you?
Speaker 3: Well, No, but those movies I've had for a while, okay,
Speaker 3: And they're like the swanky you know, specially like the
Speaker 3: Shout Factory or whatever, arrow, like the the boutique stuff
Speaker 3: that they that they go all in for, you know, right,
Speaker 3: the water World, it's like the the.
Speaker 2: The whatever cut.
Speaker 3: There's like a different cut than the one than the
Speaker 3: theatrical one that we.
Speaker 2: Watched, okay, included like in addition to correct Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of Watching the Burbs, you know,
Speaker 2: I watched it on that Blu ray that Sean got me.
Speaker 2: But I saw that I want to say.
Speaker 3: Arrow maybe errow that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had.
Speaker 3: An addition that they put out and they included like a.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say director's cut. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's exactly assembly cut or something like a really really
Speaker 2: early cut that Joe Dante shared with them from some
Speaker 2: old vhs that he had, And I was like, that's
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I could be kind of curious to see,
Speaker 2: you know what's changed.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these companies putting out gobs of extra features. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like things that you would be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've heard that there's these alternate cuts you could find
Speaker 2: maybe somewhere in a closet, but that they actually go
Speaker 2: through the work to attain those things and put them
Speaker 2: out with the releases. That's I don't know, it feels
Speaker 2: like back to the golden era of physical releases.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I got recently. I haven't watched
Speaker 3: it yet, but it's it's the Albert Pune edit of
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety Captain America. Wow, right, you know that
Speaker 3: that old, that shitty one, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I remember that from the video store.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, so so there is there was the director's cut.
Speaker 3: The director passed away recently, but he had his own
Speaker 3: edit of it that he had saved, and now that
Speaker 3: he's gone, like that has been made available in limited quantities.
Speaker 3: So when I saw that was I ordered it like
Speaker 3: right away. I was like, oh, I just want to
Speaker 3: I want to watch this h and it's just sitting
Speaker 3: here and kind of to your point, like how fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I saw. Similarly with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 2: I think Ero did a four K release of all
Speaker 2: three movies, okay, and they have multiple versions, including versions
Speaker 2: that are from different countries where you can't say the
Speaker 2: word ninja, right, So it's like they call them here
Speaker 2: like it's done differently, but it's they put the entire movie.
Speaker 2: It's not like just the clips. It's like these different
Speaker 2: cuts of the film from you know, and then Michael
Speaker 2: Lan I think in the UK they have something about
Speaker 2: you can't show nunchucks in movies, that's right, and so
Speaker 2: they had to be edited differently those scenes and include
Speaker 2: different angles and whatever, and so they that's like the
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that you would read about and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'd really love to see something like that, And it's
Speaker 2: just cool that these companies are putting stuff out like that,
Speaker 2: including all of those unique cuts.
Speaker 3: Does it include the the better version of TMNT three
Speaker 3: where it's just a blank screen for ninety minutes? A
Speaker 3: blank screen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 2: You just sent me something funny about that yesterday.
Speaker 3: That movie is shit.
Speaker 2: I've only seen it once. I didn't see it when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, and then years later I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: there's like a Ninja Turtles movie I've never seen, and
Speaker 2: I know it's not good. I've heard this, but that's cool.
Speaker 2: I want to check it out. And yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 3: Afterwards you just turn it off and then just walk
Speaker 3: silently out onto your deck and just look out.
Speaker 2: And sneer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, so boutique.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what else?
Speaker 3: I just ordered the Keno Lurber has a four K
Speaker 3: of The Phantom.
Speaker 2: Oh oh perfect.
Speaker 3: I like, here's a movie. I've owned it on VHS,
Speaker 3: I've owned it on DVD, I've owned it on Blu Ray.
Speaker 3: Here it comes the four K. Wow, I'm right or
Speaker 3: die for the fandom. Yeah, I love it, celebrating its
Speaker 3: thirtieth anniversary this year. By the way, Wow, Luke continues,
Speaker 3: he says, regardless, I've seen many Robinhood films and this
Speaker 3: is the one I come back to all the time.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just want to escape your troubles and have
Speaker 3: an adventure. And yeah, warts and all, I love this movie.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Luke. It's freaking great, man.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: One of my friends used to drive through the toll
Speaker 3: booth on one of the freeways here in Sydney, passing
Speaker 3: change to the operator using.
Speaker 2: Fire trucks and mortal words. Here's thirty pieces of silver
Speaker 2: for you to give the devil on your way to hell.
Speaker 3: Duck dude.
Speaker 2: That would make my day, was that operator. I would
Speaker 2: like laugh and laugh and never forget that.
Speaker 3: Anyway, keep up the good work. And that Yellowstone you
Speaker 3: mentioned in the commentary turned out to be a bit
Speaker 3: of a big deal.
Speaker 2: Ah funny. Maybe it would be kind of fun to
Speaker 2: listen to an old episode.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what we said, but that would
Speaker 3: have been like right when that show started.
Speaker 2: Well that makes sense because Kevin Costner, so we were
Speaker 2: probably like, oh, he's getting into television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're about to say a Yellowstone here show there.
Speaker 2: Kevin, No, Jay, did you see this?
Speaker 3: By the way, you know you got the they're doing
Speaker 3: all these spinoffs now they have the Casey Dutton spinoff.
Speaker 2: To see this, Yeah, it's gonna be like a CBS
Speaker 2: procedural right right, I'm like, I love that.
Speaker 3: They're just frankensteining Yellowstone DNA into everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's gonna be the one with Michelle Pfeiffer
Speaker 2: and someone and Kurt Russell. Yeah, Kurt Russell and but that's.
Speaker 3: Like they were not characters on Yellowstone right, I'm not no, no, okay,
Speaker 3: because I watched the show, but I don't remember seeing them,
Speaker 3: so this is just sort of in the same universe.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to I've said it before and I'll
Speaker 3: say it again. I want the multi cameras Beth and
Speaker 3: Riff sitcom.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, well they are get well,
Speaker 2: they set them up to have a show, and I
Speaker 2: think there was talk of it. I haven't seen anything
Speaker 2: about that, but yes, I would really yeah, I'd rather
Speaker 2: see the three camera sitcom.
Speaker 3: I want that. I want I want the Big Bang
Speaker 3: theory to Yellowstones Young Sheldon. Right, that's that's what I do.
Speaker 3: Want to watch this Casey Dutton show just because it
Speaker 3: seems because I saw the trailer and I'm like, this
Speaker 3: seems so completely incongruous with the other show, right right,
Speaker 3: But you got you got rain Tree in there, you
Speaker 3: got a few of the other characters.
Speaker 2: I was happy to see him back. I liked that
Speaker 2: they're all getting to keep keep working doing their thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, report back, I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: Hey, Brian, we got some headlines, well, a bit of
Speaker 3: sad news just to start things off. I mean this hit,
Speaker 3: this hit like a bolt. Catherine Harra passed away about
Speaker 3: a week ago as recording this. Yeah, exactly right, age
Speaker 3: seventy one. And you know, the one sort of commonality
Speaker 3: I'm seeing in so many of the responses across the
Speaker 3: board is this generational feeling like we lost a parent.
Speaker 2: Right, am I right? Totally yep, Yeah, I mean this
Speaker 2: one hits. Yeah. I was driving I guess when the
Speaker 2: news broke and my phone just exploded. And that doesn't
Speaker 2: always happen when you know someone notable passes away. Just
Speaker 2: so many different people, like people who are my film friends,
Speaker 2: people who don't concern themselves as entertainment as much as
Speaker 2: we do. Like everybody seemed to feel this one and
Speaker 2: was me the news and yeah, you know, it's It's interesting.
Speaker 2: There's certain celebrities where you go, oh, oh, man, that's
Speaker 2: so sad to lose them, and then there are certain
Speaker 2: ones where you start to feel your eyes get a
Speaker 2: little wet, you know. And with her, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm like really kind of feeling this right now. And
Speaker 2: you know, we've been watching her for a very long time.
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I didn't watch SCTV, but I
Speaker 2: would say probably Beetlejuice, like an eighty eight certainly. I
Speaker 2: mean Home Alone is the one right where I was
Speaker 2: ten years old, and what I love about that movie
Speaker 2: so much. I've talked about this because it was just
Speaker 2: the holidays, but I find that I love that movie
Speaker 2: more and more and more with every passing year and
Speaker 2: thinking about Catherine O'Hara and what she really brings to
Speaker 2: that movie. I think for a lot of people, when
Speaker 2: you say home Alone, they think like paint cans on
Speaker 2: a staircase, Like that's the first thing that might come
Speaker 2: to your mind. But that is the last fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: of the movie. Like, as I get older, what I
Speaker 2: really appreciate is it's about a boy who's kind of
Speaker 2: helpless and kind of a drain at the beginning, learning
Speaker 2: to grow up a little bit and become self sufficient.
Speaker 2: And and a key part of that is his mother. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, played so perfectly by Catherine O'Hara, because at
Speaker 2: the beginning, she's very stressed out and upset with him,
Speaker 2: and in a way that feels kind of harsh, but
Speaker 2: she's not just the ogre of a parent in a
Speaker 2: kid's movie.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, if I can just interject one observation, when
Speaker 3: he says to her, I wish you all would just
Speaker 3: disappear or something to that effect, right, she says, very calmly,
Speaker 3: I know you don't mean that. And I think that's
Speaker 3: why we love Kate much in that movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, and so yeah, so at the beginning, I
Speaker 2: mean she's especially being a grown up. Now you can
Speaker 2: understand the stress she's under that night with all those people.
Speaker 2: But then the rest of the movie, as soon as
Speaker 2: she finds out he's gone, she becomes this determined, you
Speaker 2: know mama bear, who is willing to walk through hell
Speaker 2: and endure anything, and she goes through all of it.
Speaker 2: She gets really angry, she gets really scared and sad,
Speaker 2: you know, and she even shares like a nice moment
Speaker 2: with John Candy in the back of the van on
Speaker 2: the way over there, and then you get that beautiful
Speaker 2: moment at the end where they silently apologize to each
Speaker 2: other just through looks and then they hug. Like that's
Speaker 2: who else, who else could convey all of those things?
Speaker 2: She did it so perfectly, And like you said, I
Speaker 2: think for like, yeah, some generations, she felt like kind
Speaker 2: of a mom, a figure.
Speaker 3: The fact that she's thirty five in that movie. I know,
Speaker 3: it's crazy, you know, I know, But then you.
Speaker 2: Know what's amazing, isn't She never stopped, right, She had
Speaker 2: all the Christopher guest movies and then right up to
Speaker 2: recently with Shit's Creek doing some of the best work
Speaker 2: she's ever done and Beetle Juice, Beetlejuice and exactly yeah, so,
Speaker 2: I mean, just what an incredible career and seems to
Speaker 2: be beloved by all the people in her life, and
Speaker 2: definitely beloved by the generations that have been watching her
Speaker 2: over the years, and what a beautiful thing, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, I saw an archival interviewer of her from
Speaker 3: around the time Home Alone came out, and she says,
Speaker 3: you know, I hope this is a movie that that
Speaker 3: people will want to revisit and that you know, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be great if people just kept going back
Speaker 3: to this every Christmas? And I mean that's exactly what
Speaker 3: it became, you know. Yeah, and she lived.
Speaker 2: To see that, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: And then the other thought I had is that, you know, Beetle,
Speaker 3: just Beatle just ends with her character dying and she
Speaker 3: goes off into the afterlife. There's there's something extra poignant
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: I thought about that, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: And then you realize, like both of the Home Alone
Speaker 3: parents are gone, Yeah, just all these things, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it becomes you know, because we've grown up
Speaker 3: with her, you know, like it, you become acutely aware
Speaker 3: of just sort of the passage of time. You know.
Speaker 3: I think that's why it does hit the way it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for what it's worth, I mean I worked
Speaker 2: on the movie for your Consideration, Christopher Guest movie which
Speaker 2: she was in, and had a handful of interactions with her,
Speaker 2: and she was just I was definitely starstruck, and she
Speaker 2: just couldn't have been more just sweet and very down
Speaker 2: to earth. I remember I had this one moment where
Speaker 2: I was in we were in a building that we
Speaker 2: were shooting in and I was in a room doing
Speaker 2: whatever work I was doing, and she needed to come
Speaker 2: in and rehearse something. And so I immediately, just like
Speaker 2: when like the talent enters, I was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: just kind of get up. She goes, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: like kind of sat me down. She's like, I'll just
Speaker 2: do my thing. You keep please, you know. And then
Speaker 2: she was over in the corner and she I had
Speaker 2: to do this long monologue and she just started like
Speaker 2: doing it under her breath to herself in the corner.
Speaker 2: I remember there was part of me that just I
Speaker 2: just wanted to observe it and just watch her like
Speaker 2: oh like kind of working through what she was going
Speaker 2: to do. And then I realized, like I shouldn't be
Speaker 2: watching this, Like she should be allowed to work on
Speaker 2: this in private, so she can go out there and
Speaker 2: do whatever she needs to do. So it was very
Speaker 2: That's what I remember about it is just how kind
Speaker 2: and sweet and warm she was about like leave, why
Speaker 2: would you leave, you know, kind of a feeling, but
Speaker 2: then I slowly left, and yeah, it was then I
Speaker 2: get to see what she did in the movie, and
Speaker 2: it's I'm thankful for that experience and it's a special
Speaker 2: memory for you, definitely.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to share. This was the post that
Speaker 3: Macaulay Culkin put on social media after she passed away,
Speaker 3: and of course it got a fair amount of play,
Speaker 3: but I think it really hit a lot of us,
Speaker 3: you know, as soon as we saw it, and he says, Mama,
Speaker 3: I thought we had time. I wanted more. I wanted
Speaker 3: to sit in a chair next to you. I heard you,
Speaker 3: but I had so much more to say. I love you,
Speaker 3: I'll see you later. And you know, he shared a
Speaker 3: picture of the two of them from home alone, and
Speaker 3: then the two of them from just a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, and you realize, like for him especially, I mean,
Speaker 3: we remember all the stories about his difficult childhood and
Speaker 3: everything he went through with his parents, and so you
Speaker 3: have to imagine that that she very much served a
Speaker 3: very important role in his life growing up, right, and
Speaker 3: you know the fact that he seems to be a
Speaker 3: well adjusted adult. You know, I would imagine she has
Speaker 3: at least some some hand in that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was very uh, I guess poignant seeing
Speaker 2: those two pictures that he posted side by side, right,
Speaker 2: because there basically it's like the same pose them almost
Speaker 2: post knows looking at one another, and it's just I
Speaker 2: just think of like you're saying time, the passage of time. Yeah, wow, Hey.
Speaker 3: The Oscars were an Oscar nominations. I should say, we're
Speaker 3: announced a little while ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you pay much attention to them anymore? Or
Speaker 2: is that sort of a thing that you just I'll
Speaker 2: see it when you know they air, or do you
Speaker 2: even watch them live anymore? Kind of I don't.
Speaker 3: Because I don't have I don't have TV live TV.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I've talked about it often. I've cut recently,
Speaker 2: and this will be the first year I don't have
Speaker 2: it for the Oscars. So most things it's pretty easy.
Speaker 2: You know, you go in peacock for US now or
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Yeah, the Super Bowl, the Oscars,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I gotta figure this out. And people
Speaker 2: used to come over to my place for the Oscars.
Speaker 2: It's like we make a party out of it. But
Speaker 2: now that I can't pause and rewind and do everything
Speaker 2: that we've grown accustomed to.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I guess you'll have to go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Maybe go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I pay attention to the extent
Speaker 3: that just knowing, you know, I mean, obviously it's something
Speaker 3: that we talk about on here, but you know, so
Speaker 3: much of this it's like it doesn't really matter. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's interesting as a data point.
Speaker 2: But what you realize is so.
Speaker 3: Much of the online discourse will be like, why did
Speaker 3: this get nominated?
Speaker 2: Why didn't this?
Speaker 3: And you realize, look, the stuff that's meant to live
Speaker 3: on is going to live on regardless of weather or
Speaker 3: how many nominations it has, right, you know, but I
Speaker 3: think it's worth acknowledging that Sinners has sixteen nominations, the
Speaker 3: most of all time and the most of all time.
Speaker 3: And this shows how broken the discourse is, by the way,
Speaker 3: because you got your usual mouth breathing idiots, the knuckle
Speaker 3: dragging sort who are saying, oh, look at this DEI Pick.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if you're a view of Sinners, is
Speaker 3: that it's a quote de I Pick? Boy, you have
Speaker 3: lost the script.
Speaker 2: It's making me realize I'm so glad I'm not in
Speaker 2: online in those ways.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: Man, you got the right idea. Yeah, not that I
Speaker 2: want to be out of the conversation sometimes for certain
Speaker 2: things that matter. But man, I'm glad I'm missing a
Speaker 2: lot of I.
Speaker 3: Mean, this is this is this is like you don't
Speaker 3: even know what you're upset about, you know, Right, Everything
Speaker 3: I don't like is woke. That's basically the takeaway, right, right.
Speaker 2: And and again the Sinners.
Speaker 3: This is a movie that you and I both as
Speaker 3: soon as we saw it, we were like, this is
Speaker 3: one of the best movies of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was special, it really is, you know.
Speaker 3: And and so again, like there's that aspect of the discourse.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm I'm very happy to see it acknowledged
Speaker 3: in this way. I'm very curious. I what are what
Speaker 3: are what are the nominations? What are the big ones?
Speaker 2: Begonia okay, which I was a little surprised but happy
Speaker 2: to see F one guest picture. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: listening to the nominations.
Speaker 3: For that's a that's a surprise.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, Bagonia F one. It feels like now
Speaker 2: that they've expanded to the ten. Yeah, they kind of
Speaker 2: put like a popular one in there. Good F one
Speaker 2: is a good movie, but you know, it's like now
Speaker 2: they have more space, so they can put something like
Speaker 2: that for F one. The nomination is the prize, absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Then you got Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle after another,
Speaker 2: The Secret Agent, which is the only one I haven't
Speaker 2: seen yet, Sentimental Value, Sinners, and Train Dreams. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that's a good list, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, if if I were to place money, I
Speaker 3: would probably put it on Sinners.
Speaker 2: Sinners are one battle. I mean, that's a I really
Speaker 2: actually don't know. It's a kind of a coin toss
Speaker 2: for me. Right now. There's a little bit of I
Speaker 2: think giving ptas flowers thing happening.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, that's a good point, but.
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't I would agree with both, honestly.
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't mentioned this to you, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to a thing at the DGA tomorrow my friend Anna,
Speaker 2: she's in the DGA, and they are having a panel
Speaker 2: with all of the nominated directors. Wow. So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: It's going to be sort of like a moderated discussion
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: So oh that sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to checking that out. But well, so the
Speaker 2: best directors who are nominated Chloe Jiao for Hamnet, Josh
Speaker 2: Safty for Marty Supreme, Paul Thomas Anderson won Battle Ran
Speaker 2: Coogler Sinners, and Brady Corbett for the brutalist stupid AI.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm not kidding. This is the Google answer and
Speaker 2: it has Brady Corbett from last year for the Brutalist.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, egg on Google's face or my face.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's really funny. There you go.
Speaker 3: You have a real time example of why we shouldn't
Speaker 3: be relying on AIA.
Speaker 2: So who is it really? You just wasted. You just
Speaker 2: wasted a whole bunch of water for what Brian for.
Speaker 2: I didn't choose it. I just googled it.
Speaker 3: Damn it.
Speaker 2: Like why did they like insist on this AI? But okay,
Speaker 2: so because I joaqum Trier for sentimental value is the
Speaker 2: one that Google is not recognizing. So there you go.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm looking forward to it. I I it's
Speaker 2: an event. It's an event I look forward to. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I think as seriously about them as
Speaker 2: I maybe did in the past, But it's still a
Speaker 2: fun I agree with that viewing party and just something
Speaker 2: you know, we do the uh you know, we each
Speaker 2: get ballots and see who gets the most right, and
Speaker 2: it's fun. So the ceremony is when uh about them?
Speaker 3: Let's see do the fifteenth Sunday, March fifteenth. Okay, what
Speaker 3: else we got?
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the Super Bowl, have you seen this
Speaker 2: ad for Infinity that is basically a return to the
Speaker 2: original nineteen ninety three Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: I did? I saw it once you once you brought
Speaker 3: it to my attention. Some wonderful corporate synergy happening here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so tell this is a common thing, right,
Speaker 2: You get the Super Bowl ads and they usually stuff
Speaker 2: them either with like celebrities. Usually it's so funny. They're
Speaker 2: so like like TikTok fever dreams these days, right, you know,
Speaker 2: they always used to be kind of funny and zany
Speaker 2: and feature celebrities. But I feel like now they were like,
Speaker 2: well that's not enough. Why have one celebrity, Let's have
Speaker 2: four unrelated celebrities, and let's have a story that's like
Speaker 2: two minutes long, but try to get it done in
Speaker 2: thirty seconds. And it's just doesn't even make any sense
Speaker 2: by the time it ends, and then you're like Doritos,
Speaker 2: you know, like, I don't know, maybe it's me, but
Speaker 2: I just feel like I they don't feel as memorable
Speaker 2: and special as they used to. Sure feel very very
Speaker 2: desperate and expensive. Yeah, but something that they do sometimes
Speaker 2: is they'll revisit like a movie and then they'll get
Speaker 2: that celebrity back, right and you know, show a famous
Speaker 2: part from a movie from a different angle, which is
Speaker 2: what they did for Jurassic Park. And sometimes it works,
Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't. What did you think for this? Did this?
Speaker 3: Honestly?
Speaker 2: I was absolutely tickled by this me too. I thought
Speaker 2: this was one of the better ones I've seen in
Speaker 2: a really long time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I to me, to me, this is what
Speaker 3: you do? And again, I mean, it's it. It is
Speaker 3: very much like playing the nostalogic notes, you know. But
Speaker 3: the fact that they got Sam Neil and Laura Durn,
Speaker 3: Jeff Goeblum back, the fact that it's relying on our
Speaker 3: familiarity with this movie that so many of us are
Speaker 3: famili you're with, all of that stuff worked for me.
Speaker 3: And it's directed by Taika white Tt By the.
Speaker 2: Way, I saw that. Yeah, and maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 2: You know, he has a good comedic sense, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But what I loved about it, so the whole conceit is,
Speaker 2: you know, Jurassic Park, its infrastructure is failing, but then
Speaker 2: an Exfinity guy shows up with whatever Exfinity does and
Speaker 2: then fixes all the problems, right, and so then you know,
Speaker 2: instead of everything going wrong like it does in the movie,
Speaker 2: we get to see our heroes enjoying Jurassic Park working
Speaker 2: like it's supposed to. And I was like, that's really fun,
Speaker 2: that's really clever. And they recreate a bunch of specific
Speaker 2: shots and moments from the film, right and just have funny,
Speaker 2: genuinely funny twists on them that made me laugh, you know,
Speaker 2: like the one big pile of shrimp.
Speaker 3: I like, Wi Fi finds a way Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean in that little bunker and it's like, I
Speaker 3: think we're.
Speaker 2: Back in business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Grant at the end being like, I
Speaker 3: will endorse your park.
Speaker 2: It was very funny, and it looks like the movie
Speaker 2: like they did a really great job of recreating it.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was really fun.
Speaker 3: I was. I was absolutely charmed by it, and and
Speaker 3: it absolutely it is it is Memba Barry Palooza.
Speaker 2: Definitely, but done well, done, but done well and yeah,
Speaker 2: clever twists on all of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and you know you see in the behind
Speaker 3: the scenes footage, you know, you've got the three of
Speaker 3: the three jp OG's just sitting and talking to each other,
Speaker 3: and it seems like they genuinely enjoy this shared legacy
Speaker 3: that they have, you know, hm and the fact that
Speaker 3: they get to every once in a while hang out
Speaker 3: again together, I don't know, made me happy just to
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I went on the Infinity Instagram page, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're like, whoa, but there is a video
Speaker 2: of Sam Neil doing like a selfie video with Jeff
Speaker 2: Goldblum in the background, and he's like trying to find
Speaker 2: the right angle to show the drink in Jeff goldblumsand
Speaker 2: he's like higher left right, Like what I was like,
Speaker 2: this is delightful.
Speaker 3: That's just Malcolm and Grant exactly exactly. But hey, there's
Speaker 3: a big release out in theaters right now, Brian. No,
Speaker 3: and now we're pleased to bring you our feature.
Speaker 2: Present and we are back and you know who else
Speaker 2: is back?
Speaker 3: Brian?
Speaker 2: Who's that? Why?
Speaker 3: It's Evil Dead director Sam Ramie. Yeah, be confused with
Speaker 3: Spider Man director Sam Raimi, who.
Speaker 2: Is just as delightful.
Speaker 3: Right right, Send Help is in theaters right now, and
Speaker 3: it seems to be doing okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it over performed, didn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it didn't cost that much either. Yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely helps.
Speaker 2: So this is this is the new thriller slash. Is
Speaker 2: it horror?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a horror movie, but label horror,
Speaker 3: But I don't know. It seems like it seems like
Speaker 3: a tweeter to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but from twentyth century Fox, twenty excuse me, twenty
Speaker 3: century Studios, Fox, Am I what am I doing? It
Speaker 3: cost forty million dollars and it has made a thirty
Speaker 3: two million thus far. So I didn't end up doing okay,
Speaker 3: starring Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien, and uh yeah, what
Speaker 3: do we got here? We got we got kind of
Speaker 3: a it's like Castaway meets meets something Falling here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, not exactly, but.
Speaker 3: So I just watched this last night. Yeah, and I'll
Speaker 3: tell you it's this.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 3: I went in knowing nothing other than it's Rachel McAdams
Speaker 3: on an island with the Maze Runner. Guy.
Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't even know the premise, that's all I knew.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean I suspected it's Sam Raimi, so I figured
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna be you know, I didn't think it
Speaker 3: was gonna be like a like a romance. But I
Speaker 3: didn't know tonally what to expect. So I was, I was,
Speaker 3: I was disgusted and fascinated in equal measure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we should say. The plot an employee and
Speaker 2: her insufferable boss becomes stranded on a deserted island. The
Speaker 2: only survivors of a plane crash. Here, they must overcome
Speaker 2: past grievances and work together to make it out alive.
Speaker 3: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when I saw this trailer, I thought
Speaker 2: this is great. I mean, you have an employee who
Speaker 2: was picked on by her boss and he just seems
Speaker 2: like this kind of broie jerk, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudd and they're put on a desert island and
Speaker 2: she's the one who has the skills to survive on
Speaker 2: the island, and I mean, what does she do? Is
Speaker 2: she is she kind and helpful? Or is this an
Speaker 2: opportunity to take out everything that she's been experiencing from
Speaker 2: him and make him suffer, right, you know, and so
Speaker 2: that's like, that's a delicious premise. And then you know
Speaker 2: it comes from Sam Raimi, so you know it's gonna
Speaker 2: be kind of quirky and fun and a little little
Speaker 2: horror twinged.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but it sounds like it worked for you.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, Yeah, I mean I think this is the
Speaker 3: best kind of movie in that you're you're you're leaning
Speaker 3: forward at every step because you just don't know what's
Speaker 3: going to happen next.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the best? Like that's that was the same
Speaker 2: experience I had. It's like, I mean, that's an incredible setup.
Speaker 2: But then what that's right? And the movie I thought
Speaker 2: was very successful in making me I didn't know what
Speaker 2: was going to happen next consistently.
Speaker 3: There was there was one element of the plot that
Speaker 3: I that I pegged early on, which I won't talk
Speaker 3: about just yet. Yeah, and so to some extent I
Speaker 3: was waiting to be proven right about what I had pegged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what struck me well, first of all, Rachel
Speaker 3: McAdams Regina George, right, Like if you would have told
Speaker 3: me twenty two years ago that, oh yeah, Regina George
Speaker 3: is going to be just like one of the best
Speaker 3: actresses we have out there right right, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like not to say she was bad and
Speaker 3: mean girls, I don't even mean that, yeah, but like
Speaker 3: she has such range just in this movie, m there
Speaker 3: are there are so many layers to a fascinating character.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact is.
Speaker 3: The movie and you don't know what you're supposed to
Speaker 3: feel about her.
Speaker 2: That's what I love. And that's the thing, right when
Speaker 2: you have the person who's been picked on and then
Speaker 2: she has a moment where she can have the upper hand,
Speaker 2: that seems pretty simple and almost like you could have
Speaker 2: this sort of revenge y comedy where we enjoy it's
Speaker 2: like a wish fulfillment thing, like getting to watch someone
Speaker 2: take it out on their boss. But the movie isn't
Speaker 2: that simple, right, you know what I mean? Like they're
Speaker 2: both kind of shades of gray, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: he veers mostly in jerkland.
Speaker 3: He's just really pretty terrible, yes, but.
Speaker 2: Like they at least take the time for him to
Speaker 2: talk about what crappy parents he had, So there's like
Speaker 2: a moment where he feels like a three dimensional human
Speaker 2: being to me, even if he remains mostly kind of
Speaker 2: a jerk, which I appreciated. And there are moments where
Speaker 2: he's put in situations where I felt a little bad
Speaker 2: for him, you know, which was unexpected. And then with her,
Speaker 2: she's not just this victim and like a a righteous
Speaker 2: person who's just like she has kind of like murkier moments,
Speaker 2: which I really appreciated. It was throwing me off balance
Speaker 2: the whole time, and that's what makes it as good
Speaker 2: as it is.
Speaker 3: I think, right, I think that the broad outlines of
Speaker 3: this type of story you could imagine the romance version, sure,
Speaker 3: and and not knowing going in what to expect, I
Speaker 3: was like, please don't let this be that. Oh that's
Speaker 3: so interesting that yeah, if you hadn't seen the trailer,
Speaker 3: yeah right, so I was. I was absolutely, you know,
Speaker 3: delighted that it was very much the opposite of that.
Speaker 3: You know, Uh, there's there's plenty of ripped scalps and
Speaker 3: gouged eyes. Let's just still without that's not even a spoiler.
Speaker 3: But this is not a romance, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny because yes, I still wouldn't
Speaker 2: classify this is a horror movie, but it's certainly made
Speaker 2: by a horror director, and so yes, you do get
Speaker 2: a lot more fluids and gore in this movie than
Speaker 2: you might from someone else. But what I think it
Speaker 2: showcases is what a master of tone Sam Raimi is
Speaker 2: because those disgusting moments in any other movie might have
Speaker 2: had me turning away and going like gross, dude, like
Speaker 2: what's the matter with you? But in this they kind
Speaker 2: of had me laughing. Yeah, exactly, Like they struck the
Speaker 2: perfect balance, Like there's a moment with a bore that
Speaker 2: is just really really gross, but I was laughing so
Speaker 2: hard at the same time. It was that perfect magical thing,
Speaker 2: right where a gross thing is like, but you can't
Speaker 2: help but laugh because of it's so intense and kind
Speaker 2: of funny but also gross, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know. One thing I always point to when it
Speaker 3: comes to Sam Raimie is like the horror moments in
Speaker 3: non horror movies, like in Dark Man, you know the
Speaker 3: scene when when Liam Neesen is first turned into dark Man,
Speaker 3: or in Spider Man two, you know when Doc OK's
Speaker 3: arms first come alive, you know, yes, and you realize,
Speaker 3: like this is where Raymy's having the most fun. And
Speaker 3: so that's what I was thinking about in this, Like
Speaker 3: you can tell he's he's enjoying the fact that he
Speaker 3: doesn't have to confine those instincts to just like a scene.
Speaker 3: He can spread it out over over two hours.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: But I like how it's there's this slow build up,
Speaker 3: right because because essentially you have you know, kind of
Speaker 3: use it's a falling down esque story for like the
Speaker 3: first twenty minutes or whatever. Right, Yeah, someone who's had
Speaker 3: enough exactly and has an opportunity to maybe lash out
Speaker 3: and then and then the plane hits turbulence and at
Speaker 3: that point we like crossover into the horror realm with
Speaker 3: all the.
Speaker 2: With all that implies.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's forks being stabbed, there's there's people
Speaker 3: being pulled into engines, there's all the all the fixens.
Speaker 2: You know. I don't want to spoil it, but there
Speaker 2: was a moment that made me really laugh with the
Speaker 2: with the window the window thing, Yeah, where she pulls
Speaker 2: the shade down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we just end up going on a journey. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm telling like this, this is this is This was
Speaker 3: my thought. Literally halfway through, I'm watching in the theater
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm not even like I love this, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I love movies. That was my thought. I'm sitting in
Speaker 3: this absolutely dark theater and I'm just letting this movie happen.
Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on, And that was
Speaker 3: my thought. I love the movies, dude.
Speaker 2: I had something kind of sil where I thought I
Speaker 2: miss this. Yeah, like, this is a movie back in
Speaker 2: the day, you just give a shot on a Friday
Speaker 2: night exactly, and it's got a great hook. You don't
Speaker 2: know where it's going. It's not trying to be anything
Speaker 2: more than entertaining for two hours and you're out.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Or like it's a great rental at Blockbuster where you go, hey,
Speaker 2: that was really fun, and then you return it. It's
Speaker 2: it's a delightful distraction, you know, like it's it's just
Speaker 2: and and also I feel like so many movies I
Speaker 2: talk about this, like you don't see a lot of
Speaker 2: pushings anymore in movies like that used to be a
Speaker 2: visual language. You know, the character's thinking something, the characters
Speaker 2: realizing something. You push in the camera a little bit
Speaker 2: like things are just more captured now and the care
Speaker 2: the camera isn't as much of a narrator. But watching
Speaker 2: this because Raymie's a little bit more old school, I
Speaker 2: actually was like wow, blocking you know, like motivated camera
Speaker 2: movement style and score. That doesn't sound like it came
Speaker 2: from a royalty free collection. You know, it's Danny Elfman.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yay, I had too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm glad that Danny Elfman and
Speaker 3: Sam Raimy got over whatever like tif they had.
Speaker 2: Yep, they're back together.
Speaker 3: That's good. This is how it should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like this isn't like something that's gonna be on
Speaker 2: everyone's top tens at the end of the year or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's not meant to be, Like this is just what
Speaker 3: we used to get at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: like a good Friday night movie made well and you're
Speaker 3: gonna have a good time. And and I will say
Speaker 3: to whatever extent there's there's a shagginess to the story
Speaker 3: where you maybe have to squint past certain things. Actually,
Speaker 3: this is a rock star performance by Rachel Like Adams,
Speaker 3: she is absolutely magnetic in this movie. You cannot look
Speaker 3: away from her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably mention this moment again later because I
Speaker 2: want to spoil something. But at the beginning, she's sort
Speaker 2: of frumpy, and it's a very she's all that frumpy
Speaker 2: because like, you can't make rich and make out on scrumpy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny because you know, there's one moment where she
Speaker 2: has a little bit of tuna salad on the side
Speaker 2: of her mouth, like repulse and I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't care, I don't mind. But then once she gets
Speaker 2: on the island, there's this moment where she's kind of
Speaker 2: bathing in this waterfall and she's just feeling herself like
Speaker 2: she is just like this is who she truly is
Speaker 2: on the inside now on the outside, and she looks
Speaker 2: different and whatever, and I was like, what a it's
Speaker 2: hard to try to make her feel awkward at the beginning,
Speaker 2: but they do. They do make her. You know, she
Speaker 2: makes a lot of awkward decisions and has a lot
Speaker 2: of awkward interactions, and it was like a real great yeah,
Speaker 2: her performance where she kind of grows more comfortable, right,
Speaker 2: and you know, and when she's able to weave hats
Speaker 2: and I enjoyed seeing that transformation. I thought she did
Speaker 2: a good job of that, and then you can understand
Speaker 2: why maybe it's for her. It's not so bad being there, right,
Speaker 2: she's kind of in her element. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and and we should talking about Dylan O'Brien. Oh dude,
Speaker 3: he's so good in this You know this guy, I mean,
Speaker 3: like I I know him primarily from from uh May's Runner.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I have not. I haven't seen him in anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I knew him from that. And then and then the
Speaker 2: only other thing I saw.
Speaker 3: Him in was was that Shoot American Assassin.
Speaker 2: Oh, the Kevin Costner thing.
Speaker 3: No, No, Michael Keaton was in that.
Speaker 2: Oh Michael Keaton that's right, that's right. Costner played a serial.
Speaker 3: Killer in some movie in something, and mister mister Brooks,
Speaker 3: mister Brooks. Yeah, And so you know, like I, I
Speaker 3: just he hasn't ever really impressed me. Not to say
Speaker 3: that sounds bad.
Speaker 2: I like, I just.
Speaker 3: You know, I was just like, oh, it's it's that guy,
Speaker 3: and he's fine, you know, but I really like I
Speaker 3: think the he found this this wavelength in this movie
Speaker 3: where he has to be weasley and pretty terrible, but
Speaker 3: he can't lean too far into that direction.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And and again, remember I'm going and thinking, so are
Speaker 3: they doing like a like a mismatched romance thing.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, they tease that a little bit, they.
Speaker 3: Tease, right, so so that's like you can't make him
Speaker 3: too vile, but they make him pretty vile. Yes, And
Speaker 3: I think that's see, that's what That's what made it
Speaker 3: interesting to me is that really this is this is
Speaker 3: a movie about like the sort of the the the
Speaker 3: vileness that we all carry inside of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it really is, isn't it right?
Speaker 3: And like how much do we let that define us?
Speaker 3: You know? And and I think that comes to bear
Speaker 3: in a lot of interesting ways, you know, I think,
Speaker 3: I think I think, like I said at the start
Speaker 3: of this conversation, I mean, I don't know how we're
Speaker 3: supposed to feel at the end of it, which.
Speaker 2: I kind of enjoy And I saw it with a
Speaker 2: couple people, and one person did not enjoy it as
Speaker 2: much because he was sort of like, well, what was
Speaker 2: that like about? Hmm? And I think the ending especially
Speaker 2: kind of made him him feel that, And I I
Speaker 2: can appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I actually appreciate that he had that response because I
Speaker 3: think it's a healthy response to be honest.
Speaker 2: Actually, yes, yes, right, but it didn't bother me as much. Right,
Speaker 2: I don't know, we can get into it, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well do we want to want to talk spoilers?
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say something real fast. Last thing
Speaker 2: I'll say before spoilers is I noticed something. A character
Speaker 2: looks into the camera twice in this movie, which I
Speaker 2: freaking love. I don't know what it is about that,
Speaker 2: but I love it, and you can't do it and everything.
Speaker 2: But when it's used right, and it's not even like
Speaker 2: an A fairs Bueller type movie where they are serving
Speaker 2: as a narrator or talking to the camera, like just
Speaker 2: the whole movie isn't like that, but then for some reason,
Speaker 2: in one moment, the character will just look at you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always find that so impactful. And then watching The Burbs,
Speaker 2: Corey Feldman talks to the camera at the end of
Speaker 2: that and I was like, oh interesting. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is kind of like a horror
Speaker 2: comedy director thing. So like John Landis, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like he was American Werewolf in London or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he has his characters and almost all his movies
Speaker 2: they look at the camera. Sam Raimi here, Joe Dante
Speaker 2: and the burbs.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was like a funny, weird little
Speaker 2: connection with like horror comedy directors. How often they have
Speaker 2: their actors actually look into the camera.
Speaker 3: That is interesting.
Speaker 2: Eh, anyway, I just had to point that outright, bring
Speaker 2: on the spoilers. Spoiler.
Speaker 3: So the one thing that I clocked early on was
Speaker 3: when she's giving Dylan O'Brien the tour of the island
Speaker 3: and she's like, Hey, those rocks that are like an
Speaker 3: ex don't go past them because there's like thorns or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: And I was like, there's gonna be like a resort
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought was gonna happen a resort.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so I kept I had that kind of
Speaker 3: like a stick pin in my mind. So every time,
Speaker 3: you know, he was like, oh, I'm gonna go exploring,
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, but well remember the thorns.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, I'll just go with you.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, you know so that was fun,
Speaker 3: Like that wasn't I don't even say that was like
Speaker 3: a it was too obvious. It was like that you're
Speaker 3: like waiting for that that thread to get pulled, you know, yes, right,
Speaker 3: but how how how do you feel about about Rachel's
Speaker 3: character Linda. By the end of the movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, are you saying a few, Linda? Are you saying,
Speaker 2: my gosh, that was a few brad dude. When he
Speaker 2: poisons her and then he just has this janky raft
Speaker 2: raft like he pulls out of the bushes. Yeah, afew, Linda,
Speaker 2: I was cracking. And then I love that she gets
Speaker 2: to do it again later, like if you Bradley.
Speaker 3: Oh and she just she just barfs NonStop onto his face.
Speaker 2: Oh and he and it's because of him. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: did it. He poisoned her, which was disgusting, by the way.
Speaker 2: You know what, I almost missed it because for some
Speaker 2: reason I turned to my neighbor and was saying something
Speaker 2: real quickly, We're like, oh, And then I looked over
Speaker 2: and I caught the end of the puking.
Speaker 3: I was like, what what?
Speaker 2: What did I going on?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But yes, no, I mean what I like about the
Speaker 2: ending is that I don't feel great about it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, she basically gets away, well
Speaker 2: even earlier than that, we're in spoilers here. So when
Speaker 2: she lets the fiance die, now, she doesn't let them die.
Speaker 2: She makes sure that they die, she kills them, and
Speaker 2: the fiance is completely innocent.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Like when she showed up, I was like, what an
Speaker 2: incredible human, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right, She's like everybody else gave up, but I never did, yes,
Speaker 4: because I mean, at the beginning of the movie, you're
Speaker 4: seeing a lot of almost stereotypes of certain types of
Speaker 4: like you know, bosses or wealthy people or whatever, and
Speaker 4: she's just this gorgeous.
Speaker 2: You know, looks like a model, and she's with this
Speaker 2: jerk of a guy, so you just maybe assume they're
Speaker 2: like birds of a feather or something. But then when
Speaker 2: she shows up and she went through, you know, all
Speaker 2: this work to find her fiance, You're like, what an
Speaker 2: amazing persons And then Linda, you know, makes her walk
Speaker 2: past a path that she is counting on her falling from,
Speaker 2: and when she doesn't fall, she makes sure that she falls,
Speaker 2: and not just her, but the poor guide who has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything. Yeah, I mean, she she
Speaker 2: bashes him in the head with the rock with the rock. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I'm glad that I got thrown off balanced
Speaker 2: that early, I guess, yeah, because then I don't know
Speaker 2: who I'm rooting for exactly, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And it's not as jarring at the end when she
Speaker 2: kind of succeeds, but like are we happy about it
Speaker 2: because it involved murder? And see as.
Speaker 3: Soon as the first time she sees that boat and
Speaker 3: she's like not yet.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, so I just want to say
Speaker 2: that that was that moment where you know, she's got
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the movie, her hair's stringing in
Speaker 2: her head. Right after that, right, she's wearing fronty clothes,
Speaker 2: and then she has that moment where she's like taking
Speaker 2: kind of like a bath, like you just need sixpence
Speaker 2: down the Richard to start playing yes, but yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the thing I mean. Then they're like showing you like
Speaker 2: gorgeous Rachel McAdams, just like she's in like a shampoo commercial,
Speaker 2: like she is in heaven, is so happy experiencing her
Speaker 2: true self and true happiness, and then she sees a
Speaker 2: boat yep, and it's like that first moment of peace
Speaker 2: we've ever seen her experience. And then there's a possible
Speaker 2: end to it appearing right right.
Speaker 3: So for me, that's the first moment where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's she's not like one hundred percent like a good guy,
Speaker 3: and so that allowed me room to encompass everything else
Speaker 3: that ends up happening.
Speaker 2: Same, You're right, it calibrated me. So I didn't get
Speaker 2: his thrown and I didn't even mind the kind of
Speaker 2: possibly not happy ending.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and we have that, and then you know,
Speaker 3: when she reveals she gets a little she gets a
Speaker 3: little tipsy, and yeah, talk about how her husband died.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're like, okay, well she's not like.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent good person, but.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because that story could like skew one way
Speaker 2: or the other. You know, it is, it's not great
Speaker 2: like she did.
Speaker 3: She's talking correctly responsible for him dying.
Speaker 2: It's almost like the way I took it is she's
Speaker 2: not necessarily directly responsible, but she allowed it. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: what does she say?
Speaker 3: Right? I would hide his keys so that he couldn't drive.
Speaker 3: And then this one time I was like, here's your keys.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, well she knew it was going to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I took my keys out of my person, I
Speaker 3: handled them to him.
Speaker 2: And my first thought actually was like, well, that's terrible
Speaker 2: because who could he kill? Right, and not even just
Speaker 2: thinking of the husband.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone driving drunk on the street. Who knows who
Speaker 2: the innocent person they could hurt, you know, right, But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's one of those things where and even in
Speaker 2: that moment, and maybe it's just me, but like the
Speaker 2: way that it played was that's not good. But like
Speaker 2: that's like a moment where a person had a dark
Speaker 2: moment and they still think about it to this day.
Speaker 3: Well just look at the range of emotions on her face.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. I don't even remember much cuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's alone.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was done in one day. It
Speaker 3: reminded me of of of you know, Pearl hmm, you
Speaker 3: know the shot at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh interesting, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's kind of a similar character to
Speaker 3: be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I guess what I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: is I can imagine a character who's done something like
Speaker 2: that and like, oh, that's not good. Yeah, but they
Speaker 2: could They're not so far gone from me that I
Speaker 2: don't think they could be like redeemed or something. Right,
Speaker 2: But then now we've got a little bit of a
Speaker 2: murkiness to her. But then she then she goes and
Speaker 2: shows that maybe that darkness is a bigger part of
Speaker 2: her than we first realized, exactly, right.
Speaker 3: And I think that's that's what made it interesting to me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: was you know, the fact that this is this is
Speaker 3: a complicated story, a gross complicated story, you know. And
Speaker 3: then man, I'm telling you that the the business see
Speaker 3: here's here's what I mean about, like you sort of
Speaker 3: look past some of the shagginess. Like to me, when
Speaker 3: Bradley finds the body of his fiance, that.
Speaker 2: Was I was like, come on really, and it's almost
Speaker 2: comical the way the hand is just propped in the
Speaker 2: sand like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's like I was like, oh, did like
Speaker 3: the pig pull that out or something? But you know,
Speaker 3: like I was like, it doesn't make sense to me
Speaker 3: that Linda would like what she found the body she
Speaker 3: why would she if if why would she bury it
Speaker 3: so shallow?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I had all those thoughts, And it's like a necessity
Speaker 3: of the plot because it's like, Okay, we got to
Speaker 3: wrap this ship up, you know, But you go with
Speaker 3: it because by then you're so invested in everything else
Speaker 3: that's happened, right, And yeah, I mean I think the
Speaker 3: beauty of it is by the by the time they're
Speaker 3: they're just tearing pieces out of each other. Literally, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're kind of like I don't know who to root
Speaker 3: for here.
Speaker 2: You know, I know, and it just the way he
Speaker 2: sticks is like thumb in her eyes.
Speaker 3: Jeez.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Sam Raimi exactly exactly. But like
Speaker 2: he does again being the master of this tone, like
Speaker 2: it's like this grounded cartoonishness almost yeah, with these sort
Speaker 2: of icky occasional moments, but he keeps us on the
Speaker 2: right side of kind of chuckling and turning our eyes
Speaker 2: versus actually being repulsed. I love that tone.
Speaker 3: It helps that Rachel McAdams is having the time of
Speaker 3: her life, totally laying to see when she swallows the
Speaker 3: ring and she's like, ah, I'm like, oh, yes, oh, Rachel,
Speaker 3: is this is this she's in heaven?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know well and then now I can
Speaker 2: get more into detail. But when she's hunting that boar, ye,
Speaker 2: and she's does like that brave heart move where it's
Speaker 2: charging at her and then she holds up that spear
Speaker 2: and it goes in his chest but it's still not dead,
Speaker 2: so it's still slowly coming at her, but it's spewing
Speaker 2: a geyser of blood into her eyes. It won't stop.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: It's so grow. In any other movie, they would do
Speaker 2: it wrong and I'd be like, oh what are you doing?
Speaker 2: But like this, I'm like repulsed and laughing, you know.
Speaker 2: And then you get her just looking like Carrie, you know,
Speaker 2: dust in blood, and she'd be like, have you ever
Speaker 2: hunted before? I like it? It's so fun.
Speaker 3: So what do you think about about the ending?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the bad guy won, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, through multiple murders. Now now she's living
Speaker 2: her best life and she's playing the game, you know,
Speaker 2: the game of golf, which at the beginning was seen
Speaker 2: as the thing that the elites or the other people
Speaker 2: play versus the have nots, you know. But now she's
Speaker 2: playing their game and she's living her best self and
Speaker 2: she looks freaking gorgeous, and everybody's interviewing her on the
Speaker 2: news and saying like, oh, you're the You're the hero
Speaker 2: who survived. What an amazing thing. You're a superstar, and
Speaker 2: she's loving it. Yeah, right, and and we know that,
Speaker 2: you know, it all came from bad things and and
Speaker 2: I love that shot. Then you know, she's all smiles
Speaker 2: for the cameras, but then when she's in the car
Speaker 2: with her parakeet, and then she looks at the camera,
Speaker 2: but she doesn't like wink. She kind of gives us
Speaker 2: this like weird, sinister look, like I know, we know
Speaker 2: what we know, and don't you dare tell anybody exactly.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the look she gives you. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what else, I what I really liked
Speaker 3: is that we go from her swinging the golf club
Speaker 3: is at his face.
Speaker 2: What a cut?
Speaker 3: What a cut? Right? And they leave it up to
Speaker 3: you to figure out what what.
Speaker 2: She did in the aftermath of that. You know, they
Speaker 2: don't explain it at all.
Speaker 3: They're just like, she was found in the middle of
Speaker 3: the ocean, yep, and so that means she cleaned that
Speaker 3: joint up.
Speaker 2: She like, you know, all the stuff that she had
Speaker 2: to do. Point evidence, right, and clearly she has not
Speaker 2: been found out so exactly, so she's straight up nuts,
Speaker 2: you know. Right, that's a good point, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? You know, and I like to this is
Speaker 2: like when a story is done well, when she has
Speaker 2: that knife and he's like, where'd you get that? And
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, washed up on shore.
Speaker 3: Yeap.
Speaker 2: In my head, I was like, that doesn't make sense, right,
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, okay, bias. She said it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the movie is saying yeah, and she at
Speaker 2: that point she seems like kind of like she knows
Speaker 2: what she's doing. So I just believed it. And then
Speaker 2: later when you know, yeah, you reveal there's not a
Speaker 2: resort on the other side of the island, but there's
Speaker 2: this you know, rich per since like vacation home or something,
Speaker 2: and she's been going in there and drinking all the
Speaker 2: water and enjoying all the fruit, and she took the
Speaker 2: knife from there. I loved that because I believed her, yep,
Speaker 2: you know. And then fun to see her secret, yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was And I was just laughing too. And
Speaker 2: I mean, she's got these backpacks that she's woven, you know.
Speaker 2: And then the other guy he can't even like keep
Speaker 2: himself hydrated, and he's like watching her like serve herself
Speaker 2: sushi on these little plates that she's made out of
Speaker 2: like you know, like leaves, Like I don't know, that's
Speaker 2: that's the thing, right, It's got all the tones and
Speaker 2: somehow they don't cancel each other out like they all
Speaker 2: exist perfectly.
Speaker 3: I think that in the hands of another director, this
Speaker 3: could have gone any number of ways. But I think
Speaker 3: I think Sam Raimi he plays us like a harp.
Speaker 3: I agree, like a harp from hell. One might say yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: uh yeah, so hey, thumbs up for for send.
Speaker 2: Help, thumbs up. This is a great lark.
Speaker 3: But know what you're getting, like, you're gonna get some
Speaker 3: gore in here, yes, so, uh, just know that going
Speaker 3: in agreed, Agreed, This isn't what is that swept away
Speaker 3: that that movie with Madonna? Donna?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this ain't that. Yeah, just be aware. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: but not full on horror either. No, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: just know you're gonna get some gross mood.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get some some gore. Yeah, all right, but hey,
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Speaker 3: There we go, and if you're looking for me online,
Speaker 3: you can find me on social media at Zachie's Corner.
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Speaker 3: at IGN and The Rap. Also there's a brand new
Speaker 3: interview up at the Nostalgia Theater podcast, so if you
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Speaker 3: Kenneth Johnson just from a couple of years ago. He
Speaker 3: created the mini series V as well as TV's Incredible
Speaker 3: Hulk and TV's Alien Nation. And it's a fun discussion,
Speaker 3: so that's worth listen if that's the type of thing
Speaker 3: you like.
Speaker 2: What about you, Brian, And he directed Short Circuit too,
Speaker 2: he did. That's right, that's right. Yeah, I haven't bookmarked,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it yet, but I haven't set aside
Speaker 2: to listen to this weekend, so I got nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and yeah, you can check out episodes I've written of
Speaker 2: Puppy Dog Pals and Young Jedi Adventures over on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3: And with that on behalf of my partner Brian Hall.
Speaker 3: My name is Zachisa.
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