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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks

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for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word

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about the pirate ship. Well, the Yankees have their first

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game as we're taping this tonight. It's also the Bills

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and the Jets. But a big Yankee fan, and big

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in many ways, is a guy named Jonah Falcon. Then

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you may know Jonah from I don't know many many

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TV appearances and documentaries and things about that, but I'll

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start with the Yankees. Because didn't you do a show

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called Talking Yankees for a while on Cable? Oh yeah,

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a long time ago, A long time ago.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, something like two thousand and

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three and four.

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Speaker 4: It went I abandoned it and switched to Talking Xbox,

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and then John Boy Media grabbed it, grabbed the name

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Talking Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got you, and so you lot I got.

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Speaker 4: You know, they can have it. Talking Yankee is an

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incredibly generic title.

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Speaker 1: Jonah is probably known for his uh well, first penis.

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It's the world's largest, right, I think it was was

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it a How did this all come to public attention?

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Was it the documentary the HBO thing Private Dix?

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Speaker 3: No, Actually it was the fact that I was really well.

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Speaker 4: Known in the New York light nightlife for it, okay,

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and friends suggested me to the HBO special, and.

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Speaker 3: Then somehow Howard Stern learned of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just went from there.

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Speaker 1: It just went on and on from there, because you've

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had I mean, after that, it's been Oh wait, I forgot,

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Speaker 4: I completely forgot about the Rolling Stone article. Oh right,

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gotten in October ninety eight. October ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: And it just said that your penis measured nine and

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a half inches in length flaccid, thirteen and a half

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inches went erect, which I go, the normal.

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Speaker 4: Pen half they rounded it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay at that point, I mean, come on, you've already

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won every contest. I'm just the average penis is like

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three to four inches and yours is eight and a half,

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nine and a half flashed. That's like, I can't I

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can't imagine that.

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Speaker 4: Well me a hot day if if I'm jelly rolling,

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Speaker 1: I got you. I got you. So as a young

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guy with this, I mean, when did you realize you

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had something special compared to everybody else. How old were

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you when you kind of realized not so much that

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other people.

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Speaker 4: It's a tricky question, is it. Okay, the first time

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I measured myself, I was ten years old. Yeah, I

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was eight inches hard. But I didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 1: Sure you didn't that that's your normal.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know I was different, different until I was

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Speaker 1: Okay? And then and why was it at eighteen? Was

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that where you were in a locker room and you

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Speaker 3: Went to baseball camp and everybody made a big fuss.

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Speaker 1: Ah, okay, so you got a bat.

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Speaker 3: Also when I really started getting sexually propositioned.

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Speaker 1: So who propositioned you first? Do you remember? Like it

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was a man or a woman because you're bisex?

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Speaker 4: Actually, well, the first one was a woman, But the

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rest of them are almost always men.

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Speaker 1: Always men, And I would think that men in a

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way would be almost intimidated that they don't measure up,

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it's more it's more worship.

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Speaker 4: I've actually heard in the past twenty years of something

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called SPH, which is small penis humiliation. I've never dealt

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with those, but I know it's a thing which guys

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with smaller ones deliberately want to be embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they're also submissive, you know, and a lot

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of guys, you know, they're not thinking about their own

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dicks when they're when they're blowing me.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, I got you.

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Speaker 3: Do you focused on me not not them?

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Speaker 1: So is most of your when you say you're bisexual,

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is it mostly them performing on you? Or is there

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give and take here?

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Speaker 4: Well? I used to perform on myself. Yes, yeah, so

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I was actually awfully good at that. The thing is that,

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unlike most men, I'm not seeking out sex.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not. They're twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: You know, right.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it now is just emotional for me.

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Speaker 4: I can go months without it because I if I'm horny,

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I'll just jerk off and that's it. But I mean,

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like I'm turned on by them being turned on.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying with that, Is it hard?

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Then to find is it hard? Is it tougher to

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find real relationships? Because here's the thing that I would

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always think, like, when you're young, you've got something nobody

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else has. Right, there's other guys, maybe they're well and down,

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but you're still leading the pack in that.

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Speaker 4: And I would well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Let mean, when you want to think about it, think

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of someone.

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Speaker 4: Who's really, really, really rich. Yes, a shit ton of money. Oh,

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by the way, that's one thing about insecurity. People are

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insecured about the dick. I'm insecure about money, so okay.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, but the constant problem that someone with a lot

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of money would be is.

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Speaker 4: Are they just interested in my bank account? Yes, well

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think of it in that way, except in my case

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really can't withdraw, so well you can, but it's very temporary. Yes,

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But the thing is that I try not to worry

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about that. I try not to worry about what people think.

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Speaker 1: It ever, because I would think in some way you

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would almost feel used at times.

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Speaker 3: I try not to worry about that either.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, getting back to long term, it's funny, you know,

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I never got married, but I've had long term non

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married relationships.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one now.

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Speaker 4: And A lot of that is I like them a lot,

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they like me a lot, and I give them permission

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to objectify me.

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, go ahead, I know what you feel.

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Speaker 4: So you know, whatever gets you excited will get me

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even more excited, and that'll excite you more.

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Speaker 3: So it sort of like a positive feedback loop there.

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Speaker 1: Because how has your family handled all your notoriety over

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the years. You've done several documentaries, HBO, TLC. I think Europe,

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you've probably done news programs, and I think they can

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show you in Europe, can't they?

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Speaker 4: They did, They did show me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they show me hanging halfway to my knees.

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Speaker 4: So the thing is that unlike certain other people like

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Robert Scavella Cabrera, he can't show his I mean I

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talked to the people who interviewed him. They say it's

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disgusting because it's basically stretched out for skin. Looks really bad,

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which is why you've never seen it. You've seen me.

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You can Google search me immediately and just see me

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whatever you know. I've also seen some hilarious fake pictures

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of me in which they photoshopped me, which is sort

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of like, why would you want to photo shop me?

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Speaker 3: I guess they just want to see extremes. It's like,

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oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So when you're okay but all this stuff, how's your

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family handled that notoriety because we I mean, look, we

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live in a prudish society where we don't talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't really discuss it with him.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, sure they know. I know one does. My

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cousin knows he's gay. He's gay, and he has a boyfriend.

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And when I first met his boyfriend, his boyfriend was

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sort of like, oh hi, you know, wide eyed, and just.

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Speaker 3: They know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know they know.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, I asked on later and I said, oh, yeah,

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well what.

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Speaker 4: Happens is that, you know, they were talking and I

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came up and he said, holy shit, that's my cousin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, But I mean there's a tremendous amount

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of notoriety that that goes on for for you. So

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I would think, as a younger guy, did you show

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off a lot?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, oh yeah, definitely. I'm actually I'm

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pretty much an exhibitionist. But here's the thing about it.

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It has nothing to do with my dad. It has

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to do with everything. If I write I.

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Speaker 3: Want to show it off. Yes, if I cook, I

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want to show it off.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know so, I mean I used to wear

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it and I still do on occasion when I just

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feel like, you know, I don't give a ship, or

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am I tight jeans hang halfway to my knees and

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you know, just let other people interpret it. It's no

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big deal for me. Why are you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you walking around? It's a sticky Sticky fingers

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album cover the uh? But what do people say to you?

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Do you have you had? I would assume that we

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live in such a weird world and I have another

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question to follow up with this, but that people would

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see this maybe in tight jeans or biker shorts, and

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do they proposition you? Have you been propositioned just by

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a you have?

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. There's one of two things. Either it's

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is that real?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Or hey, I know you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And that's it.

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Speaker 4: I remember what's it called? Often in nightclubs. I would

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just have to live it out right there.

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Speaker 1: You would well, sure, yeah, yeah, because I didn't give

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a ship, and what was the and the general reaction

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to leave. I would, I would, And I know that

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that's something on me. Has nothing to do with you,

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as you're saying that. You know the same thing if

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you have feelings for somebody. And certainly I've had relationships

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over the years i've been married. I've had no one

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left because it wasn't adequate, right, the equipment was. I mean,

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that's a big part of a relationship, is sex. It's

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what kind of differentiates a friendship from a relationship.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I never had people walk away because

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they felt inferior, you know, and I never encouraged that either, right, Sure.

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And the thing is that sex with me people find out. Really,

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wait a minute, he's not a claude. I mean, what's

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it called to The thing is I'm very active, I'm

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very oral O r A L. Yes, it's also aou

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r a L. I guess I'm also that too. But

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you know, I know how to work various places in

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the body with my with my mouth, especially kissing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you know that's one thing.

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Speaker 4: That shocked me the first time I kissed, I made

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out like an adult, and it was like.

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Speaker 3: They were shocked that I was such a good kisser.

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Speaker 4: And it's sort of like, I I'm gonna say, maybe

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I have good biofeedback in which I know what what

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what someone likes and I can just do it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think if I was average, Well, first, if I

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was average, I would be a lot more muscular, because

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one downfall is that you never lack for sex even

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if you're out of shape. And you've seen the pictures

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of me from the past. I am really out of shape,

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so I'm really out of.

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Speaker 1: Shap can that your penis sounds so large that I

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have to think there are some women that I don't

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want to try to.

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Speaker 3: Oh from here to tricking my elbow?

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Speaker 4: And yes, by the way, whenever with another guy, you know,

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I think, wow, that's not you know, and then I

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realizeh wait, he's larger than average.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that means you know, by definition.

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Speaker 1: See you have you have a big Yes, you have

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a bad point of reference actually, but okay, so if

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you are, are you in a relationship now with a

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man or a woman? A man a man? Have you

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had relationships with women where women would not allowed you

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to penetrate them.

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Speaker 4: They here's the thing. Penetration isn't the number one thing

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for me. It's like I said, I like kissing, like

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mutual oral, that sort of thing, you know, So it's

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sort of like, well, if you want it, you can

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have it. So here's the thing. I found that if

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you want it, you can take a fire hydrant. You know.

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I find that if if someone really wants it, they

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can take anything.

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Speaker 1: If you want to, you will. Yeah, And I.

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Speaker 4: Know not to go to different women. I know there's

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a certain there's a certain pain there if I go

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to you.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Fortunately everything is centered on the head, so I don't

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really have to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Also, I can't rabbit fuck. I don't and I don't

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go I can't. I simply can't. I would I exhaust.

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I literally exhaust. I'm very slow. The one thing I

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the one thing I do not do is let anybody

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get on top, because that's a good way to get

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penile fracture. And I'm especially concerned about that. So you know,

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it's hugely missionary.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that is I have heard of penile fracture.

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I have never had that problem. I don't think I have.

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You don't have to be.

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Speaker 4: Big to have that. We just have to been the

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wrong way when hard. I actually did it to myself

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when I was very young, when I got a hart On,

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but my dick was in the wrong position.

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Speaker 1: And did you break it?

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Speaker 4: No, Well, what happens is you get a bruise. You

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get a very specific bruise. You can't break its cardie.

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You can fracture it enough that you have to immobilize.

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It never got that far. I just remember sharp pain.

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And this is when I was like fourteen fifteen, so

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I mean, it's never happened again.

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Speaker 1: Have you been studied by urologist at all?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you did? I haven't. Yeah, And I actually did

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an unaired TV show in which they actually they they

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used that sonar thing, you know, the sonar us use

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it to pregnant women, yes, yes, for eurology to use

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it on penises too, Yes, I do. The Oh my god,

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you know, you're the only person who's actually bigger than

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the sonogram microphone. And I could actually see blood flow. Really,

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it's like seeing an X ray of yourself, you know,

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It's like, oh, that's me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so. What were they studying for Jonah, what

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were they looking at?

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Speaker 3: It was just it was just I don't know what

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they were study for. I got paid and never aired.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so that was a that was a

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TV show or something.

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Speaker 4: I was also measured by this morning at the UK

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and one of the few times I'll let myself get measured, okay,

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And it's important that I did that because otherwise.

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Speaker 3: People say it's just exaggerated.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Although here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I found that even if I'm semi like eleven, you know,

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by the way, this is exactly four inches, okay, so

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I know one, two, three and a bit, And even

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if I'm like eleven.

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Speaker 3: People don't know the difference.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't they know the difference.

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Speaker 1: They're not no, no one, no one will know it

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all What have you learned about people? Which I know

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maybe a strange question, but you know, in terms of yourself,

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you've sort of got this uniqueness about you, right, so

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people are want to see it, are curious about it.

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But what have you learned about people in general? Are

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they cruel? Are they just curious? And then move on to.

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Speaker 4: Its never been cruel? Yeah, but you know there are

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certain things that are not in polite society. And the

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thing is that I wish I could stop talking about it,

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but there's few things people won't see it, won't stop

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asking me about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I bothered you about it, and.

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Speaker 4: I just really can't say no because I like, you know,

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I'm completely honest, and I you know, it's like I am.

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I'm not gonna say I'm shallow, but I'm going to

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say that, Uh you know, I'm not very There's not

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a lot of deception to me. Okay, I try to lie,

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Like people say, how old are you? Well?

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Speaker 3: Fifty four?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that your real aert color?

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Speaker 4: New?

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Speaker 3: I mean, when I start getting gray, I put the

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dye on.

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, it's really irritating. Is everybody thinks I

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should have a beard, and everybody thinks I'm a lot

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sexier with a beard, but I can't stand having a beard.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh at any point in your life and and

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I don't know where you sort of like get sick

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of the notoriety for this and you kind of I

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don't get depressed. Is there was there.

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Speaker 4: In terms of work work, Like I said, I use

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a slightly different name when I'm going out for acting roles.

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Now I've been in stuff, but you wouldn't know it

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was me unless you in my face because you did

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the last thing. I did that, but it was BG

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work wasn't a speaking role as a fallout in the

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last episode, and I'm wearing a really big beard and

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it's like people who know me recognize me instantly. The

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funny thing is that the older I get, the more

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people want to stick my face in front of stuff.

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Speaker 3: They don't know who I am and stuff like that.

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It's just like they just want to press right.

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Speaker 5: So, but you know what about what I'm really hoping

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well before, what I'm really hoping for is you know, well,

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actually it's actually already happened.

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Speaker 3: Any filmmakers don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, if you have an infamy

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to you, that's actually a plus for them.

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Speaker 3: So I'm actually working with someone.

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Speaker 4: So there actually may be a film with me in

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a starring role.

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Speaker 3: Kind a starring role.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a principal role, it's a supporting lead role,

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but it will have me fully frontally nude because it's

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part of the story. Basically, it's about a real life

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story about someone turning a sex store, you know, in

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Staten Island into a into a nightclub.

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Speaker 1: Okay in the seventies, I gotcha, almost a studio, not

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a studio fifty four type, but that that Bogie Nights aren't. Yeah, yeah,

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that's exactly what I started to think of.

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Speaker 4: The stand that film. It's not for the obvious reasons.

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I just think Paul Thomas Sanderson is. I don't like

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the new directors. You know, Sophia Coppola is bad Ald Timers.

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Sanderson is stylish without substance. And I don't like Quentin

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Tarantino either, because what I see when I see his

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films is, oh, here's a video store clerk who saw

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something cool and wants to replicate it. And he's never

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had an original thought in his head.

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Speaker 3: All of his all of his most famous things are ripoffs.

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Speaker 4: If you knew anything about Stephen Prince, then you watch

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pulp fiction, say oh shit, he ripped it.

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Speaker 1: So he ripped off. You're saying he ripped that off

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from Stephen Prince.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well yeah, huh see. Look at the Martin

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Scorsese interview about Stephen Prince and to talk about when

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you had to stick a needle in someone's heart and

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all that stuff ripped off word by word by word.

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And you know that Quin Tarantino enjoys watching Martin Scorsese films. Yes,

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matter of fact, too many people love Martin Scorsese and

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try to emulate them instead of start their own. And

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the problem is Sophia Copla. I know we're going way

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off topic here. Sophia Coppola has the rich girl disease.

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She has a certain disconnect and all of her movies

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are daddy issue movies. See who her father is? She

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is daddy issue the movie.

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Speaker 1: Are you working on any projects yourself, because I know

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acting is your I just told you about it. No, no,

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but your passion. But were you ever did you write

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any thing yourself? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I was a prolific video game and computer

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game writer in things like Computer Game Strategy Plus or

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Computer Games Magazine, Game Pen and all that. Since the

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magazines are dying, mater of fact, Game and Former was

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recently closed, even though they're.

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Speaker 3: Back to by Game Stop.

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Speaker 4: There's only one real one left, PC Gamer and maybe EGM.

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I think they resurrected it. So now I just go

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with the video game podcast, which is gamme podcast.

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Speaker 3: Dot net and very very generic name.

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Speaker 4: I know, I did a lot of movie reviews, some

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for Cranky Critic, a lot is for you g O.

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So I did a lot of writing.

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Speaker 3: I keep on.

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Speaker 4: I have such a weird writer's block in which I

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want to start something but I just can't. Something is

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just holding me back. And I don't think it's writer's block.

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I think it's something deeper. But yeah, I mean I

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can write a lot, I just don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what through the years. I got to think when

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you know, you talk about acting and stuff, and you've

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taken traditional roles and kept it more on the side

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that I would. I'll call it mainstream. But I'm sure

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there were offers from porn. There had to be.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, since I was.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen, since you were fifteen.

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Speaker 4: The one time, oh that wasn't actually a porn It

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was just a guy who wanted to video me drinking off.

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Speaker 1: But I said no, okay, all right, but that would

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be I understand.

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Speaker 4: And at fifteen there's actually been uh, there's actually been

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people who played to me me and made videos as me,

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you know, way back and it's not me. Yeah, I

470
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,359
can tell it's not me.

471
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: Could you ever talk to your a parent about this stuff?

472
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:53,440
Like you know, at fifteen to have somebody offered.

473
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,799
Speaker 3: That it was well, what they can do is another

474
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,640
person my age.

475
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh it's another person great. No, But I mean in

476
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,000
terms of I have no idea. I always think like

477
00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:05,640
the psychological aspects of this, right, I think every guy

478
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,000
would go, man, having a big dick, you get to

479
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,119
rule the world, right, everybody wants to see it.

480
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: You're here's the thing. Yeah, I know a lot of

481
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:18,119
porn actor friends, and unless you actually produce it yourself,

482
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,160
you don't make much money.

483
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:22,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, how about cost.

484
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,759
Speaker 4: So here's the thing. With most porn, they're not there

485
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:26,319
to see the guy.

486
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,079
Speaker 1: There there you see the girl, yes, right, but usually well,

487
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,799
but gay porn maybe.

488
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh again, I mean that's a different that's

489
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,200
a different time.

490
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,599
Speaker 3: I'm just saying generally, you know, for straight porn, there to.

491
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:43,079
Speaker 1: See the Yeah, that's uh.

492
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,279
Speaker 3: You don't clean your room and you don't want anybody

493
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:46,759
to see it.

494
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: You're fine, Jonah, You're absolutely fine. No one's here to judge.

495
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,200
No one's judging you. Everybody's judged you and they've gone.

496
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359
I know, I wish I had a penuts like that

497
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,039
that that would be interesting. Has what's been the biggest

498
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,319
drawback having that big of a penis. Is there a

499
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,319
big drawback in any way? I mean, look, that's been

500
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,519
your whole life. It's your normal. So I don't know

501
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,359
that there is one if that's all you know.

502
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,839
Speaker 4: No, I mean not really, because I've never fallen into

503
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,759
any of the traps. I've been falling one big trap,

504
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,119
and that is being known for it, right, I mean

505
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880
maybe I should have been famous first, then be known

506
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,720
for it. Yeah, like do some movie with full frontal

507
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:27,880
nudity and after I'm already established.

508
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, your parents. Your mom's still alive.

509
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:34,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

510
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

511
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I'm our caregiver.

512
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh you're her caregiver. Okay. Over the years, I mean

513
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,279
she's had to be aware of the notoriety you were getting, yeah, but.

514
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,799
Speaker 4: Never said anything about it. And now she's old enough

515
00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:50,319
that she can't really say much about it because she's

516
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,000
had two strokes.

517
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry real. Yeah, Well, so what's up

518
00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:01,799
next for for Jonah? It's would Oh here's one that

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,839
I did want to ask you. A lot of times

520
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:08,119
they do plaster cast and uh make oh yeah.

521
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: I've been I've been asked to do that too. I

522
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,279
will at some point when I'm when I really need

523
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:16,640
the money, when I'm retired and my bank account is

524
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,519
running out, it's like, yeah, I'll do that, Okay, I

525
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:20,880
would never seen the appeal.

526
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: Well.

527
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: Also, people say that they I should like, what's the

528
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:31,720
word endorsed products like condoms or yeah?

529
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, are there condoms that can fit you?

530
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,599
Speaker 4: Uh? Yes?

531
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,559
Speaker 1: And no.

532
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: The thing is that even the large ones, you know,

533
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,160
they only fit half. But the thing is that with me,

534
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,079
it's not it's not the length, it's the it's the

535
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,039
fact that a lot of kind ofms squeeze the hell

536
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,400
out of you. To be sure, so long as there's

537
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880
no fluid exchange, there's no deal. There's no big, big deal.

538
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

539
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,319
Speaker 3: Also, since I do mostly blowjobs.

540
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,799
Speaker 4: It's like I don't have to worry about it, right, Well, okay, yeah,

541
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:06,079
I mean, I mean herpes and there are other diseases

542
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,960
other than you know. But I've then again, I've I

543
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,880
won't say I'm monogamous. I'll just say that I prefer

544
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119
I get attached to one person because they do it

545
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440
so well. I really don't feel the need to do

546
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,599
anything else. Like I said, I'm mostly a show off.

547
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I got you Okay, So when you say monogamous, are

548
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:31,759
you in a monogamous relationship? Now? Virtually virtually.

549
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. It's not.

550
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: It's not even don't ask, don't tell. It's that I

551
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,480
just don't have the I am pretty lazy when it

552
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,640
comes to that. I don't like to have to seek

553
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,200
it out.

554
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: You know.

555
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I find someone who does it extremely well

556
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:48,599
and we're really into each.

557
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Other, that's perfect.

558
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: He's also a function of being.

559
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,279
Speaker 4: Over fifty two, I think your sex drive diminishes.

560
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but I mean sort of like, uh, pardon

561
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,240
the pun, but if they fall in your lap, so

562
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:07,599
to speak, you'll you'll do something. Yeah, it's something that's

563
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:12,039
just of what I mean, like, you know it, they'll

564
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,400
know it. That's true. That's very true. That's true. Well,

565
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,400
I I I got to think it's just been a

566
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,960
unique life, if nothing else for you. You know, all

567
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,319
the notoriety and stuff, the TV shows, the documentaries, the

568
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,559
shows that haven't been seeing you know, all the radio

569
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,319
interviews you've done.

570
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: Over you have seen it, I mean obviously.

571
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's on the internet. I brought it up

572
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,640
in here and there was a woman that was just gaga.

573
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:43,279
You and I are doing a one on one because

574
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:44,039
I didn't want it to be.

575
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I don't usually let hard pictures circulate.

576
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:51,039
Speaker 1: No, these were flat.

577
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so yes I do have some hard pictures.

578
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,440
It's like people, that's photoshop?

579
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,279
Speaker 1: Are they out on the internet.

580
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: Don't make me prove it. Some of them are if

581
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:09,039
you look hard enough, hard enough, h it's uh, they

582
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:09,799
can be found.

583
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

584
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's the that's the picture I showed the

585
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,960
people this morning a couple of years ago, and they

586
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,160
went ape ship because it looked unreal. But at the

587
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,920
end that it was an extremely good angle. So it

588
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,119
actually you know, but most pictures, most pictures you see

589
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,839
people meet me and they say they don't do you justice.

590
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,799
Speaker 1: Oh really, so the pictures, So that's got to be

591
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160
somewhat of an ego boost as well.

592
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. It's the thickness that people can't

593
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,119
get over, you know, they think. And that's the other

594
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,160
thing is my dick would look longer except for the thickness,

595
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,599
because the thickness makes it look more normal. You have

596
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,359
to have something like my hand or other objects in

597
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,880
there to make it realize. Oh, because like I said,

598
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,640
grab your wrist. There's a little bit of of thing

599
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:00,359
that that's me.

600
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to think that, uh who would be

601
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,440
I would think older women. I don't know why more

602
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,000
experienced women would find that.

603
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,279
Speaker 3: I think they would be less intimated.

604
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, less intimidated by by all of it. It's

605
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,759
uh god, what a what a just weird existence for you.

606
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,319
I'm sure you've met famous people. Have you become friends.

607
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,160
Who's the most famous person you're friends with?

608
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,079
Speaker 4: Uh?

609
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,039
Speaker 3: I tend not to talk about them.

610
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to jeopardize I got oh fuck, you know,

611
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,359
I know one person who wouldn't give a ship Okay

612
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:35,119
if I.

613
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: Mentioned I knew them. That's Bruce Valange.

614
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Oh, Bruce is a great comedy writer, one of the best. Yeah, truly.

615
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: The thing that the thing that I enjoy is able

616
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,160
to stick with a stick with him, able to uh

617
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240
banter with him and you know, keep sort of like

618
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,519
the Dorothy Parker club, you know, sort of like we've

619
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,319
managed to.

620
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,119
Speaker 3: Bounce off each other. I make him laugh as much

621
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:58,960
as he makes me laugh.

622
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:03,559
Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, that's a nice thing. I just I

623
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,200
think for you that it's uh sometimes I didn't know

624
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,920
if it was going to be hard in terms of

625
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,039
trusting people. What are their emotives? But I think you

626
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,240
laid it out pretty well when you compare it to

627
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,160
somebody being rich. Are they after my money?

628
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I know a lot of comedians. One

629
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,519
of my closest friends before he passed away was Taylor

630
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:23,960
and Ne Groan.

631
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,599
Speaker 1: I know, I read Taylor did a lot of movies.

632
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I it's like, I don't know what's going

633
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,079
on with him. What's called we keep in contact? But

634
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,759
I think it's sort of like I have so many stories,

635
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,519
Like one huge, huge, huge syscom story had nothing to

636
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:41,400
do with me, right, it's nothing to do with it.

637
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,319
It's just a story that someone else in the industry

638
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,880
talked about. Was that he was going to have fool

639
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,599
around with him, but he kept on calling his wife

640
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480
every ten minutes during the encounter.

641
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,319
Speaker 3: That he just said, I give up.

642
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 4: He's too afraid. It's like, okay, and it's I can't

643
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,640
say it is because he's still alive, but it's just

644
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,480
hilarious to me.

645
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: So they were gay, but they didn't want to will

646
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:07,359
go through it.

647
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,599
Speaker 3: Strong urges and they didn't want.

648
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: To fulfill them.

649
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:14,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, When did you realize your person. Go ahead,

650
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,000
what's another person? Oh?

651
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:22,359
Speaker 4: No, another person who is a famous music person? What's

652
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640
called fool arou? I mean like twenty years ago and

653
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,680
they wished me a happy birthday for like fifteen years,

654
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,119
but they never met up with me again. And even that,

655
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680
and I I think it's just because you know, he

656
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,839
did have an adult family and he just didn't want to.

657
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,599
Speaker 3: God, how old is he now? Maybe in his mid seventies.

658
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: Now so famous But it's like, yeah, yeah, that's all

659
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,119
I'm gonna say famous.

660
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say if it's theater, no, it's not

661
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,000
a rock star.

662
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,039
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's not that big a deal. Well

663
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,279
it is a big deal. But here here's the thing

664
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,440
that that's a big deal. How does that make you? Field?

665
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,039
Do you feel used in that way when they say,

666
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:07,200
you know, send you a happy birthday but never never return.

667
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: I it's disappointing, but yeah, in any long run, I mean,

668
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,440
I know someone who's should be in the rock and

669
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,599
Roll Hall of Fame but isn't. But it's still a

670
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:24,039
loyal friend, yes, past fifteen years. So it's like you

671
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:25,400
get something, you get loose some you know, and I

672
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,279
try not to care about it, because, like I said,

673
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:28,480
you know, there's nothing, there's nothing.

674
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,519
Speaker 3: I can't control it.

675
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: No, you can't. You haven't.

676
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: I If I can't control it, then I'm not going

677
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,559
to worry about it. Have you ever got Well, that's

678
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:36,680
not entirely true. Have you ever worried about something that's

679
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,359
out of my control?

680
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,279
Speaker 1: Everybody people, everybody does. We're human beings. I mean, that's

681
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,400
that's what happens. But have you gone do you know?

682
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,839
Speaker 4: I mean, but in terms of relationships, I mean in

683
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640
terms of money, then I'll be worried. In terms of

684
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,599
quality of life, I'll be worried in terms of friendships.

685
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,759
There's nothing I can do about it, right, you know?

686
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is there? Have you done therapy in any way?

687
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,559
Because I just think like some of that stuff would

688
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:02,200
fuck you up on you?

689
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had my fill If they're.

690
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,039
Speaker 1: Okay, that that makes sense because I'm.

691
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,639
Speaker 4: Enough that people think. People sometimes think I might have aspergers.

692
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:18,039
I don't, but sometimes they do. But I think that's

693
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,000
because I never really see at some point because I

694
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:24,280
was having nightmares. I was put in a in a

695
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,199
boarding school, so I never really developed. You know how

696
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,159
you are in a big school. You know, there's thousands

697
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:30,559
of people.

698
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Right.

699
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: I didn't get to that until I went to Bronx

700
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,880
Science and then I had trouble coping because there's so

701
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,719
many people here.

702
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 1: Right.

703
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: So, but.

704
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: All that stuff just it sounds bizarre. You were having

705
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Take me back, what do you mean you were putting.

706
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:48,599
Speaker 3: A boarding I don't know.

707
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: I think it's because my mother was having monetary problems,

708
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
so made up of things that I can go to

709
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,440
a free boarding school.

710
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,079
Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember what Bedding School was?

711
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:00,159
Speaker 4: Oh?

712
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hb that's in Brooklyn. All right, Brooklyn.

713
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you because I Yeah, my father was

714
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,079
born in green Point. I think you were as well.

715
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah I was. But I lived on one block north

716
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,280
of the Marcy Avenue station.

717
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: It was on South I want to say south. I

718
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719
always get confused if it's South fifth or South ninth.

719
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: Oh, south fifth.

720
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: It had it been South fifth because no South night.

721
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,119
Speaker 4: See. This is why I get confused, because I I

722
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,719
walk by there sometimes and it's like, there's this huge

723
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,199
black glass building next to my old apartment. And here's

724
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,599
the thing that really annoys me. My great grandmother owned

725
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:47,480
that apartment, the entire building, all four stories. Wow, And

726
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:53,320
for some family dispute or whatever. She sold it and

727
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,039
we all had to move out. And I'm thinking, you

728
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,760
know what, if I own that building, I would be

729
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,679
a multi millionaire.

730
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: Right it is in prime location.

731
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,559
Speaker 4: It is one block away from the Willimsburg Bridge, one

732
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,800
block away from the Marcy Avenue station. I would be

733
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,960
in hog heaven. Not only would I own my own place,

734
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,599
but I could also rent it and if I want,

735
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:14,360
I could sell it.

736
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: And god knows, developers would love that spot.

737
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, love it because there's a huge black glass building

738
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,920
next to it now where they used to be an

739
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,920
empty lot.

740
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,199
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, I can't believe how stupid they were.

741
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,519
Speaker 1: Well, but you did. You've got to have put away

742
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:34,599
some dollars over the years with all the movies and.

743
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: The Yeah, I have savings, but you know it's like, yeah, oh,

744
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,239
I don't make that much at all. Everything I've script

745
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,280
and saved and make sure, and I have somewhat of

746
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,920
a nest egg.

747
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: So we'll see. I am not comfortable about that nest egg.

748
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,079
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I bet there's a dildo company out there

749
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,920
that would make a replica, and you could be getting

750
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,079
residuals out of that for a long time. If you

751
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:57,960
cut the right deal.

752
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, here's the thing. If I was to do

753
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239
that first, I would make sure that I was really ripped.

754
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,480
You know, the picture on the box.

755
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to, you.

756
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: Know, let him photoshop a little bit, I got you.

757
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,039
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. See, that's the entire thing is,

758
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:14,400
I would not want a photoshop at all.

759
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,039
Speaker 1: Well, you have said to make sure that that's me. Yes,

760
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,480
you know.

761
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: It's the same thing as if they just you know,

762
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,440
if they did the cast and they just added a

763
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,239
few inches, what are you what are you doing? By

764
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,559
the way, that's one of the things Jess Straker was

765
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,480
really annoyed at. His dildo was several inches longer than

766
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:32,239
he was, and he was upset because it was misrepresentation.

767
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,840
And I think whatever partner he was going to be was, wait,

768
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,960
you're not as big as your bildo.

769
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a phrase I'll never hear. That's a phrase

770
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:44,159
I'll never hear. You're not as big as your bill though.

771
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:48,360
Uh well, Jonah, it's been very interesting talking to you.

772
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:52,760
I uh, I find it fascinating and your whole life

773
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,079
is just sounds so interesting to me. An, I'm sure

774
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,599
because it's you and it's your stuff. But I just

775
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,400
think like being known for something that you didn't choose,

776
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
you were just born. That's that's it's just just the

777
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,599
way it is. And all the notoriety and all the

778
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,800
stuff that has come as a result of that. You

779
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,119
seem to have handled it pretty well, but I go, boy,

780
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,119
at times that had to be pretty difficult. I would

781
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,119
almost think that, you know, it could get kind of

782
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:21,960
depressive at times because you're not really sure what people are,

783
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:23,079
especially when you're younger.

784
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: There's plenty of things to be depressed about.

785
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, here's the thing.

786
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: Uh, there's a lot of things for people to be

787
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,880
insecure about. Money, relationships, right, all that stuff, which I do.

788
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400
There's only one thing I don't have to be insecure about.

789
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: That's true, you know, right, And and there you go,

790
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,679
such as life. Some people some people are just born lucky,

791
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,280
I suppose.

792
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the thing is that I'm still insecure. So yeah,

793
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:57,199
other helps you in one sphere of life, but it

794
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,280
doesn't help me and everything else.

795
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,159
Speaker 1: Uh, mets not not in your purview. But how about

796
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,679
Jets Jets fan?

797
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: Okay, good, they are a disaster, and they are a

798
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,920
main disaster.

799
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: They you know, what's going on with Lebron and the Lakers.

800
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,599
It's going on with the Jets.

801
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 1: Oh, I think with Aaron Rodgers. Oh yeah, I think

802
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:18,519
so too.

803
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: All I wanted to fire Hacket. Yeah, that's why I

804
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:22,840
Sawa got fired.

805
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about sports is that it is extremely

806
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,159
a meritocracy. And you do anything, anything at all, that

807
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,880
has nothing to do with merit, you will fail hard. Yes,

808
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,199
you will fail hard. Anything you do that is not

809
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,119
a decision, that is anything to do with the sport,

810
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,199
you will fail hard. Look at Well, I'll give you

811
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,159
an obvious example.

812
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,559
Speaker 3: Look at George Marshall.

813
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,199
Speaker 4: George Marshall from Washington did not desegregate way into the thing.

814
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: And there was like one fifteen and two and one

815
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,760
and thirty.

816
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: It was like they were the absolute pits because they

817
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,480
refused because of ideology.

818
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,559
Speaker 3: Right, ideology has no place in sports.

819
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: No, you're right, it's meritocracy.

820
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't care.

821
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:13,159
Speaker 4: If that were true, the nineteen ninety six Yankees would

822
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,079
have never beat the Braves, who are the team of

823
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:15,719
the nineties.

824
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: It's a very good point. All right, Well, Jonah, I

825
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,320
I really appreciate you taking the time today, and I'm

826
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,719
sure another as you're saying batal conversation about your penis

827
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,039
but interesting. Nonetheless, people want to know how you navigate

828
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,960
that stuff. I told you there was a woman here,

829
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,440
she was flabbergasted, and then you know, there were I'm

830
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,159
sure the jokes and all the stuff after a while. Though,

831
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,920
you're a human being. At the end of the day,

832
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:42,199
you didn't choose this. You just happen to have it.

833
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,280
Most of us are jealous of it, but that doesn't

834
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,280
mean your life is any better or different.

835
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: You're choosing people. See, you got penis, penis and marginin surgery.

836
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
I wonder what that would do maybe when I'm eighty

837
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
and I'm really, really, really curious.

838
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be there? Isn't there a penis museum

839
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,360
in Iceland? I thought I read somewhere that you were

840
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,880
gonna donate your penis.

841
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 4: Is another penis Museason, which I appeared in as well,

842
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920
which I didn't even know about until someone showed it

843
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,119
to me.

844
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,559
Speaker 1: He said, Oh, okay, where's that?

845
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: I forgot? I think it's in Spain?

846
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:14,679
Speaker 1: But are you donating your penis.

847
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: Upon your I don't think that's never going to happen.

848
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,519
Speaker 1: Demise all, Okay, I could suck them over.

849
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: And get cream ine and say, okay, here I think

850
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,800
this thing of ashes and show it off.

851
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: And recreator and recreate it. A picture is probably well,

852
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,840
picture's worth a thousand words in your case, maybe a

853
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,440
thousand inches. I don't know. Jonah. A pleasure, and I hope,

854
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:39,480
I hope this was an right interview. I'm sure every

855
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,760
question we've asked or I've asked, has been asked before.

856
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000
So thank you for suffering through it. I appreciate it,

857
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,920
all right, see you later. There he goes Jonah Falcon

858
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:52,880
the thirteen minute.

859
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,159
Speaker 4: God.

860
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: I just that's the thing that I think is any

861
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,679
guy you at first you think great, and then you think.

862
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,800
I don't know. I just think there will be a

863
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,679
lot of I'm speaking as an older guy, a lot

864
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:08,119
of things on the side that maybe you tough to navigate.

865
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,199
I don't know, but here's what I do know. I'll

866
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:19,159
never have the problems Jonah Falcon. They have no Most

867
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,039
things I'm buying drug stores to put on my body

868
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:31,000
will fit for Jonah Falcon and his enormous falcon. I

869
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,320
wonder if he calls it the falcon the falcon is landed.

870
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,320
I'm Bill Moran tomorrow you're gonna get etiquette lessons. That's right.

871
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,760
We do both sides of the spectrum here. Yeah, we're

872
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,679
getting it all. I'm billified. They we're looking borrow kind

873
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,760
of lack with Tanna and I'm looking forward to seeing

874
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,119
you tomorrow.

875
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: California, Baby, things are gotten worse. He's a land of

876
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:55,800
opportunity for me.

877
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,039
Speaker 1: Is just a curse that judging make us feel. Men

878
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:03,679
have to wait. You can need to look about cattle,

879
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,320
the Tennessee places