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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio appf I Am six forty. You have

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Walls Show, and this is the time of the show

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<v Speaker 1>where I go to my social media and answer your

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<v Speaker 1>very personal and private dms. If you send me a DM,

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Kayla is very respectful of everybody because I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is tender stuff. So if you'd like to send

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<v Speaker 1>me a DM with a relationship question, you certainly may.

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<v Speaker 1>The handle is at Dr Wendy Walsh at doctor Wendy Waalsh,

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<v Speaker 1>So Producer Kayla, you're looking at Instagram tonight, right, yes, ma'am? Okay, cool, cool, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, dear doctor Wendy. I away was diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 1>herbie simplix to when do I tell people and what

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<v Speaker 1>are peoples reacts? Typically, Well, there isn't a typical reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, but secondly, it depends what you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for in a relationship. If you're looking for a short term,

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<v Speaker 1>fun sexual relationship, then you're going to need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them at the get go, right, because that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of this relationship. If you're hoping to build something

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<v Speaker 1>long term. I want to assure you that everybody's got something.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got something going on with their health. Honestly, one time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking when I tell you this, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be going back a long time ago. I was

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody who said I want to tell you something

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<v Speaker 1>about my but I'm not ready to tell you yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. So we hadn't started

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<v Speaker 1>a physical relationship. It was going on, weeks were going by,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like breaking into a sweat when he'd

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<v Speaker 1>finally tell me. And then one time he literally said

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<v Speaker 1>I lost a toenail. I'm like what, He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never grew back, Like this is your big health issue. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't want you to see it. If we

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<v Speaker 1>got naked, I'm like, for real, Oh my goodness. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, wait until you build some emotional intimacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't expect any reaction to be typical. But like everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're first assessing a partner. You can find out

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody is compassionate and understanding and smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>understand how they won't get infected if you take the

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<v Speaker 1>right precautions, et cetera. But take your time build trust first. Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy, my girlfriend has friends who loved party

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<v Speaker 1>and hook up with guys. I trust her, but not

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<v Speaker 1>her friends. How do I tell her this? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>know birds of a feather, you know, Yeah, so social

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<v Speaker 1>behaviors are highly content ages around social groups. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see why you might have a concern. Now, the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you start to put down her friends,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna look good on you either. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also wondering when you say I trust her but

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<v Speaker 1>not her friends, is she running around partying with her

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<v Speaker 1>single girlfriends? Because why she has a relationship, she has

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend. Why does she need to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>looking for more? Okay, but that's not what you say

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<v Speaker 1>to her. Okay. I think what you want to say

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<v Speaker 1>to her is something about your commitment and your trusting

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<v Speaker 1>of her. Not I don't want you going out with

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<v Speaker 1>those girls. I don't think that's safe for us. How

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<v Speaker 1>about I want you to know that I am in

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship with you because I love you, care about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am I committed to being monogamous. I hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I trust that you will be too. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that some of your friends are at a

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<v Speaker 1>different stage and in a different lifestyle. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know that you and I are on the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>So not confrontational, not defensive. You're just gonna express your

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<v Speaker 1>own you know the fact that you're monogamous, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna trust that she's going to be that way, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy, I'm a man. Good. We text every day. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>He checks in in the morning, at night in person.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the connection seems dry. Should this be a deal

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<v Speaker 1>breaker or does the connection take time to build? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me say why is it dry? Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>why is it dry? What are you not doing? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you opening up emotionally? Are you trying to make it

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<v Speaker 1>a safe space for him to open up emotionally? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you expecting him to lead in this area? I think

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<v Speaker 1>you need to. You need to express your own vulnerability first,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he's not able to get there, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a loss, then you've got to say it. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to say. You know, I'm really attracted to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful when we get together, but I'm not feeling

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional connection from your end. And I'm wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>that's about. A text in the morning at night anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can do. I mean, playboys do that just to keep

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of girls online. So it doesn't think that

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<v Speaker 1>the texts mean nothing, But it's about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world that you should be thinking about. Hey, rowld,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have time for one more? All right? I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been paying attention to the clock. Okay, oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you this question. Hey, doctor Wendy. I

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<v Speaker 1>was friends with this woman for seven years and we're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close. She's in a terrible relationship, so they're just friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds platonic. She's in a terrible relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't listen to her whine about his disrespect anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can be her friend anymore. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I selfish for protecting my Oh this is from a

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<v Speaker 1>woman about a female friend. Got it? Got a two win?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I selfish for protecting my mental space and turning

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<v Speaker 1>my back on her? I want you guys to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Think about what Doctor Wendy would say, because

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, I've got a very clear answer

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<v Speaker 1>for this person. You are listening to the Dr Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Waalsh Show and KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>So KFI AM six forty you have Dr Wendy Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>with you. This is the Dr Wendy Walsh Show. I

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<v Speaker 1>am answering your questions. Reminder, I'm not a therapist. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a psychology professor, but I'm a woman, and I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with the science of love. And I've written three books

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<v Speaker 1>on relationships, did a dissertation on attachment theory, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a wealth of information in my head and opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>So this woman writes to me. She says she's been

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<v Speaker 1>friends with this other woman for seven years. That're really close,

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<v Speaker 1>but this other woman's in a terrible romantic relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>continues to whine about how disrespectful her guy is. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can be her friend anymore. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I being selfish for protecting my mental peace and turning

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<v Speaker 1>my back on her. Now, let us please break this down.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, self preservation is different from selfish. Selfish

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<v Speaker 1>is deliberately hurting somebody to make them have pain because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to eject your own pain out of your

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<v Speaker 1>own body. Self preservation is saying this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy space for me to be in and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>good for me. The other thing is you're calling it

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<v Speaker 1>turning your back on her. I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>think of it as turning your back on her. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's being violent with her, I will tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>The advice from the National Domestic Violence Hotline is to

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<v Speaker 1>not abet and in the person, but to basically put

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries on them, which is, I'm here when you need me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't support this relationship. So if you do like

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship and there are other things you're getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I would start by simply saying, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>seven years I've heard you complaining about this guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't listen to it anymore. I don't support this, and

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<v Speaker 1>so let's have a truce that when we meet, we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about everything else, and when you're ready to leave him,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if you think the friendship is worth it

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<v Speaker 1>and worth saving. You can do that, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>also tell her very clearly I can't if you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want to walk away to say it's just too hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to be friends with you. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching you suffer and you doing nothing about it is

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<v Speaker 1>too hard on me, because that alone might be her

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<v Speaker 1>wake up call, right. I call it giving somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>gift of pain. Every once in a while, somebody needs

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<v Speaker 1>a wake up call if nobody's telling her, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's just putting up with there, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to put up a which drama dumping you don't. You

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<v Speaker 1>can preserve yourself and move along. Move along, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>dear doctor Wendy. I'm single and I met a man

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<v Speaker 1>in an open relationship. Ooh. He was with his woman

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<v Speaker 1>when I met him, and he was meaning like in public,

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<v Speaker 1>like you met the two of them together, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants us to have a little fun, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, just him and I not her. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's open to him having sex with other women. I

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<v Speaker 1>am attracted to him. Should I do it? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>be worried about anything? Yes, you should be worried about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Let's start with did you really

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<v Speaker 1>meet her in the real world and do you actually

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<v Speaker 1>have her permission? Because remember that episode of Mating Matters

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<v Speaker 1>on Pollyamory or Polly Wantacracker where this woman said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've met this guy and he's polyamorous and he's married,

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<v Speaker 1>but he says his wife says it's okay, and he

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<v Speaker 1>showed me a picture of his family. I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not permission, This is permission to cheat. Potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. So you need to get real facts

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<v Speaker 1>right that she's really open to it. Now, the next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you're saying is should I do it? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether you should do it. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>your particular rules are around sexuality. I also don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a woman who tends to fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>after sex, because this could get very messy, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared for that. If now, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>with the ifs. If you've got consent from the wife

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<v Speaker 1>that you're quite or girlfriend or whatever that you're quite

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<v Speaker 1>clear on, if you're attracted to them, if you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to use every kind of precaution, if you know that

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<v Speaker 1>if you start to catch feelings, you're gonna walk away

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<v Speaker 1>and you can do all that, then go for it,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy yourself. If everything's okay, Who am I to judge? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Uh? Dear on the other hand, dear doctor Wendy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the best way to end a friends with benefit situation?

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<v Speaker 1>I realize that I deserve more? Well that saw you say?

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<v Speaker 1>You literally say I deserve more. This relationship doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And then you keep your pretty little manicure

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<v Speaker 1>off your iPhone and not respond to any of his

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<v Speaker 1>text because he's going to test you to see if

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<v Speaker 1>you really mean it right, and move on. If it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work for you, move on. Uh. Dear doctor Wendy,

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<v Speaker 1>Why when I start using men using men as they

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<v Speaker 1>use us as women? Why does that make me feel

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<v Speaker 1>empty inside? I'm taking control, but I feel more lost.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great question. I lived this. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to think that female sexual behavior was behaving like a man.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, all not all men use women.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all meniproscus just want to say, there's a wide

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<v Speaker 1>range of male sexual behavior out there too. But the

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<v Speaker 1>playboy I had met, so I thought, well, what's good

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<v Speaker 1>for the goose is good for the gander. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>sexual power, not this idea of behaving like a man.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very crucial, delicate, vulnerable, important, intelligent biology. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>saying this isn't right. Well, maybe it isn't right. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>and see. That's my favorite motto. I tell my kids

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time. Just wait and see, Just wait,

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<v Speaker 1>no rush, don't have to do anything all right. This

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations on your working in the newsroom and you've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing your thing, and I wanted to make sure I

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<v Speaker 3>say congratulations to you, and I'm so thrilled for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's just I would have never thought that

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<v Speaker 1>parts of my brain is just It's a testament to

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<v Speaker 1>the work I've done it myself. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>We love it practices what she preaches.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody right, but he's he's also a really great guy,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was just luck and I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>Show and KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to The Doctor Wendy Wall Show and KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a nerd. I'm a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a geek. I love research, I love data, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go down a rabbits hole sometimes on the Internet, just

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<v Speaker 1>reading like these new interesting studies, like oh yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. I wonder why, I know some people get

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to Instagram, Amazon. I don't know. Maybe you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find new porn to watch. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits hole you go down, Okay, I don't know. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I go down the rabbits hole of human behavior research.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought I would talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the first study that I found has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the problems I have in my life, which

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<v Speaker 1>for my Apple Watch. So what I generally do is

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<v Speaker 1>in my Apple Watch, which charges really fast, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>And then during that time I like to put myself

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow I just go down this rabbit hole in

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and Russia and Israel and on the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm reading and reading and reading, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>I start to get sleepy. Yes, it puts me to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a la la by okay, don't ask, okay, doctor freud,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask. Then, just as I'm falling asleep, I switch

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad for you. It's bad for you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So here's why this study that I just

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<v Speaker 1>read is so interesting. Researchers in the of course, Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>this magical fabric that can monitor your body temperature, your

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare provider while you're just wearing your shirt. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that charges everything. Gone will be the cable for my

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone and my Apple Watch. All right, here's another quirky

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know if you drink with your friends? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>good liquid water that you've had. However, they found that

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<v Speaker 1>My other favorite interesting study of the day that I found,

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<v Speaker 1>So why would I tell you that you should vent

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<v Speaker 1>to a friend? Well, a new study that literally came

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<v Speaker 1>people who listened to a friend vent liked and supported

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<v Speaker 1>venting could actually be They call it a tool of

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<v Speaker 1>this is unconscious. Right, But apparently if you're venting, let's

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<v Speaker 1>call it gossiping about somebody who drives you crazy. But

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<v Speaker 1>you more. Just saying you'll still be angry. You will

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<v Speaker 1>still be angry. But what can I say? I love

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<v Speaker 1>these studies, Love these studies, all right, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>to find a secure, healthy relationship. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I did to find and keep the love of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, My sweet Julio. When we come back. You

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty we Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before I tell you what I'm going to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all the steps that I used to find

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<v Speaker 1>the love of my life, I want to remind you

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<v Speaker 1>that I did not have a secure attachment style. Finding

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<v Speaker 1>love was not natural for me. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why I'm so good at explaining love to you,

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<v Speaker 1>if I do say so myself, is because I had

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<v Speaker 1>to work through the steps. I had to hit all

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<v Speaker 1>those barriers and figure out how to get around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And before I tell you the steps that I took,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say something deeply from my heart. You

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<v Speaker 1>know I posted a little bit on social media and

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton yet because there's so much video and

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<v Speaker 1>so many pictures that so many people sent me. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a chance to edit them. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>sweet friend, celebrity chef Katie Chin said, just send me

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<v Speaker 1>the assets, girl, I'll edit it. It's relaxing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you are to sit and edit videos is

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<v Speaker 1>relaxing to you? Drives me crazy anyway, So Katie's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put one together for me, which really cool. You

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<v Speaker 1>could check my social media at doctor Wendy Walsh soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't put pressure on a friend who's doing your favor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so whenever she gets it to me. But the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I did post, I think the most moving thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me were the comments from you listeners at KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised by how many people posted that you

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<v Speaker 1>have been listening for the full decade that I have

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<v Speaker 1>been here. I love that so many of you said

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<v Speaker 1>that you've learned so much from the show. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>closing or going anywhere, you guys, I'm just saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of all, many of you were absolutely inspired and

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<v Speaker 1>filled with hope by my story, and for that I

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and I'm honored and just happy happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be here with you guys. All right, So having said that,

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<v Speaker 1>what did I do in the past. Okay, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what obstacle I had in the past that I

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<v Speaker 1>got over with this relationship. First of all, before I

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<v Speaker 1>say anything about what I did, I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>full credit to doctor Zori Zori z aar I head Aat,

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing psychoanalytic psychotherapist who I have been with on

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<v Speaker 1>and off for eighteen years. SA I'm giving her a

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<v Speaker 1>plug on the radio. She's going to be shocked when

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<v Speaker 1>she gets all these calls. Head ay At. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to spell it, h da yat, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway. She's like my surrogate mother, my emotional mother,

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<v Speaker 1>my replacement mother who really helped me learn about my

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<v Speaker 1>attachment stuff and get stronger and smarter along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So therapy is the key. I want to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say that the attachment parenting that

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<v Speaker 1>I practiced with my kids, keeping them close, breastfeeding them

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<v Speaker 1>each for three years, it actually heals a parent to

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<v Speaker 1>stay close. Whether you're probably not breastfeeding if you're dude,

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<v Speaker 1>but any parent who keeps their kids close puts their

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<v Speaker 1>kids first, is also kind of healing themselves. When they

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<v Speaker 1>separate from their kid and they say, don't worry, Daddy'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back soon. Daddy always comes back, Daddy loves you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another brain listening, and that's your own brain. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So parenting helped, therapy helped. But then let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the steps. So in the past, I wouldn't have noticed

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who was, you know, in how do I say

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<v Speaker 1>this nicely? Who really showed that they were attracted to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody showed early on in a relationship that they

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was great, I thought to myself, ooh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>too nice. Ew why are they showing this right? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're insecure. I had all these reasons to push away

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<v Speaker 1>good solid love this time, because of all the work

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<v Speaker 1>I've done in therapy, because of my hard life of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years as a single mother. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve this, Bring it on. Say that again. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you say you adore me? Come on? Repeat it?

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not so much that I chose well well,

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<v Speaker 1>I did choose well. It is that I was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to feel love. I'm sure maybe even some people listening

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<v Speaker 1>walked through my life and did adore me in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't hear it. I couldn't truly take it in.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get to a place where you do

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<v Speaker 1>the inside job of loving yourself. And now I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have flaws. I know there are a million things

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<v Speaker 1>I could improve on in my life. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to write to me and tell me all the things

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with me. I'm quite aware of them, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. But I still like myself. I'm a human being.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fragile like anybody, but I still have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a backbone. So that was the first thing, being able

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<v Speaker 1>to stick with somebody who liked me. Okay, next thing

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<v Speaker 1>is developing intimacy right away. If you I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on the show. On our very first

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<v Speaker 1>coffee date, I said, instead of telling each other like

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<v Speaker 1>how cool we are, why don't we tell each other

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<v Speaker 1>why we think we're completely undateable. And that was when

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<v Speaker 1>I told him a few secrets. He told me a

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<v Speaker 1>big secret. You can go online and look for our

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<v Speaker 1>wedding proposal and hear all about it. But we started

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<v Speaker 1>with emotional intimacy. We started with honesty, not game playing.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I did is when I felt, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like so in the past, if I had abandoned anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody wasn't calling me back on time, or was

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing or whatever. I would either play some game like

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<v Speaker 1>I would disappear further and make them chase me, or

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<v Speaker 1>I would get angry with them. This time. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first time it happened. This feeling came up in me.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing that he did wrong, but just something that came

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<v Speaker 1>up in me, which was he was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>in one city and then the next day texted me

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<v Speaker 1>from a different city, so he had changed cities in

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<v Speaker 1>the night. And we'd on even seen each other, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eight weeks or something. But this rattled me because

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<v Speaker 1>when you have an anxious attachment style, if the object

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<v Speaker 1>of your attachment, you know, if there's an an idea

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<v Speaker 1>they might be abandoning you or moving in some way

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't know, it can just feel a little rattling.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of getting mad, instead of acting like cool whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I actually said, hey, can you jump on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. We get on the phone, I say I

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell you something about me. I get really

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<v Speaker 1>weird inside. If you like, don't communicate with me about

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going or what you're doing. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>locator thing. Could you just always just shoot me at

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<v Speaker 1>text if you're getting on a plane somewhere. It would

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<v Speaker 1>just help me. And he said, sure, no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, why don't I share my location services with

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<v Speaker 1>you too? I was like, what, someone's not hiding anything.

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<v Speaker 1>This is amazing, So I want to say that. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the early stages with before I met

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<v Speaker 1>him on the dating app, did what I've told people

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<v Speaker 1>over and over, only match with two people at once,

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<v Speaker 1>because your brain can't handle a whole bunch of potential

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<v Speaker 1>mates on one app. Paradox of choice makes you frozen

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<v Speaker 1>and unable to make a choice, and when you do

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<v Speaker 1>make a choice, you don't value it that much. So

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<v Speaker 1>I focused on kind of one at a time, let

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<v Speaker 1>it play through, and made clear, analytic decisions. Anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful it all worked out for me. I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue in the future to tell you not only

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<v Speaker 1>about how we coorded and how it all came to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but also how married life is going and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with all the new stuff, potentially boredom. He always

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<v Speaker 1>says to me, do we need novelty in our life?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we need to I've been listening to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>this Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>go see comedy or do something different. We need novelty,

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<v Speaker 1>right leasy listens to what I say anyway, It's always

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<v Speaker 1>my pleasure to be here with you. That does bring

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show to a close. I here

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday night on KFI AM six forty from seven

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<v Speaker 1>to nine pm. You can also welcome to follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on my social media at doctor Wendy Walsh. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to all of you for all your graciousness and

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<v Speaker 1>all your kind words as I transitioned from single woman

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<v Speaker 1>to married women. You been listening to the Doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Walls Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh.

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<v Speaker 1>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 1>forty from seven to nine pm on Sunday and anytime

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